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Boris Johnson
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Holloway's knackered if the new owners expect loyalty


Imagine this place when they sack him.......
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Judging by much of the responses on here, the telegraph and other social media this statement has achieved its purpose. But I fear the purpose of this statement is not, what many are assuming.

First and foremost, there is NO denial here that Holloway knew of Mr May, his 2 plus year relationship with Fenty, the intended investment and of May's criminal past.
Surely, he knew all of these things. Why? He was on the board and privy to these things, the Trust board members admitted they knew, so why not Holloway? As such he was not an innocent party to this saga. I think most can agree that if May's involvement was not exposed the investment WOULD have been accepted and we would probably still in the dark.

When he refers to mistakes being made, he is not referring to his own. It is written in the context of those at the top. He is calling the recent saga a “mistake” on behalf of Fenty and the board (of which he sits). This was NO mistake. This was a calculated train of events, at least 2 years in the making. As stated above, the events would have reached a suitable conclusion for Fenty and the board if it had not been exposed.

Holloway suggests the distractions off field are the reason for the team’s poor start to the season. There is absolutely no admission that HIS actions have caused any of the poor performances to date. He has used the “politics” as an excuse for his and his team’s current failings. Not Covid, not pay cuts, or anything else that occurred in the close season.

He also points some of the blame at Shutes and his associates for simply taking an interest in the club. According to Fenty for a number of years the club was open to offers. Shutes simply decided to make an offer but ultimately could not meet the remit as stated by Fenty.

The remainder of the statement is a rallying call. A rallying call that will no doubt result in a remorseful statement from the club and Fenty himself. Fenty is no stranger to issuing apologetic statements when required, especially when he’s trying to get out of a sticky wicket. Holloway's statement paves the way, by appeasing the fans (mission accomplished), ready for Fenty’s plea of forgiveness.

If this statement was a true rogue statement, where Fenty and co were caught (again) unawares, then there is no way that links to the statement would have been IMMIDIETELY posted on the clubs social media. There would have been no way Fenty would have tolerated this. The statement is nothing more than a carefully orchestrated ploy, by the current incumbents, designed to calm the anti-Fenty sentiment, so Fenty can have his say and again hold his head up high.

My prediction is nothing will materialise from the continuation of talks with Shute’s and co. Why would anything come of them as they have already been going on for a number of years? If they do, I don’t believe Fenty will relinquish control of the club anyway and the status quo will be maintained to the detriment of the club.
I really, really hope I’m wrong on this, but nothing that has happened over Fenty’s reign has left me to think otherwise.


Must say I agree with this. It's cleverly worded as it allows people to see It as criticising fenty when it doesn't much really. It allows fans to see It as anti fenty , fenty reads it as equating him and shutes as as bad as each other. What shutes would make of it I'm not sure, depends on if he has been playing politics in his bid.

Remember bax said that the club were reading through and approving trust statements - well the fact they linked to it on the club website could be an indication they've done the same here. The club (fenty) certainly haven't interpreted it in the same way as many others have anyway.

I hope your wrong heppy about everything just carrying on and fenty going nowhere. Maybe it's just an attempt to shore up ollie's position with the fans and buy him time if we get beat on Saturday? Or maybe it's an attempt to buy time for fenty to squeeze more out the deal or produce a rabbit out of a hat on something and if he cant he will go.

Or maybe I'm wrong and it is what everybody wants it to be, but in a very guarded way as he didn't want to upset John too much.
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There is an assumption in many posts that all board members knew of May’s proposed investment prior to Monday’s meeting and it is hard to disagree with that, however, assuming they knew about and agreed with it are two very different matters. No League 2 club is going to turn away a £1m gift horse without seriously considering how it could benefit the club and I guess we will never know when this investment was first presented to the board if this was accompanied with a resume of May’s past or if that resume was an accurate portrayal of his illegal acts. Nor do we know if certain board members, whether that be Ollie, Day or Trust members, opposed this investment from day 1, throughout the process or when the crap hit the fan.

Certainly someone close to the club released his involvement to the media so clearly not all members of those in the know were happy with the proposal. Think we should stop assuming knowledge of the proposal was agreement and acceptance of it.
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Quoted from heppy88
Judging by much of the responses on here, the telegraph and other social media this statement has achieved its purpose. But I fear the purpose of this statement is not, what many are assuming.

First and foremost, there is NO denial here that Holloway knew of Mr May, his 2 plus year relationship with Fenty, the intended investment and of May's criminal past.
Surely, he knew all of these things. Why? He was on the board and privy to these things, the Trust board members admitted they knew, so why not Holloway? As such he was not an innocent party to this saga. I think most can agree that if May's involvement was not exposed the investment WOULD have been accepted and we would probably still in the dark.

When he refers to mistakes being made, he is not referring to his own. It is written in the context of those at the top. He is calling the recent saga a “mistake” on behalf of Fenty and the board (of which he sits). This was NO mistake. This was a calculated train of events, at least 2 years in the making. As stated above, the events would have reached a suitable conclusion for Fenty and the board if it had not been exposed.

Holloway suggests the distractions off field are the reason for the team’s poor start to the season. There is absolutely no admission that HIS actions have caused any of the poor performances to date. He has used the “politics” as an excuse for his and his team’s current failings. Not Covid, not pay cuts, or anything else that occurred in the close season.

He also points some of the blame at Shutes and his associates for simply taking an interest in the club. According to Fenty for a number of years the club was open to offers. Shutes simply decided to make an offer but ultimately could not meet the remit as stated by Fenty.

The remainder of the statement is a rallying call. A rallying call that will no doubt result in a remorseful statement from the club and Fenty himself. Fenty is no stranger to issuing apologetic statements when required, especially when he’s trying to get out of a sticky wicket. Holloway's statement paves the way, by appeasing the fans (mission accomplished), ready for Fenty’s plea of forgiveness.

If this statement was a true rogue statement, where Fenty and co were caught (again) unawares, then there is no way that links to the statement would have been IMMIDIETELY posted on the clubs social media. There would have been no way Fenty would have tolerated this. The statement is nothing more than a carefully orchestrated ploy, by the current incumbents, designed to calm the anti-Fenty sentiment, so Fenty can have his say and again hold his head up high.

My prediction is nothing will materialise from the continuation of talks with Shute’s and co. Why would anything come of them as they have already been going on for a number of years? If they do, I don’t believe Fenty will relinquish control of the club anyway and the status quo will be maintained to the detriment of the club.
I really, really hope I’m wrong on this, but nothing that has happened over Fenty’s reign has left me to think otherwise.


I can understand why but I think you are overthinking it.

To me, it seemed a statement that went as far as it could without calling for Fenty to go, which would have meant the sack.

He knows that most fans are now against Fenty continuing, even his erstwhile supporters.

If anything has happened as you say, then Ollie's reputation is shot. I cannot believe his whole ethos would be thrown away on anything to do with a con man.

To cover all eventualities and all scenarios the statement would have had to be about 10 pages long, so I don't think we can be too critical of what may or may not be in there, but for a manager to come out on the side of the fans when every man and his dog is asking for Fenty to be replaced seems explicit enough.

If I am wrong then bang goes the last vestige of trust in anybody in public life.  

I prefer to think the issuing of the statement through club channels was a tacit acknowledgement that Fenty's time is drawing to a close, but whoever is right, I guess we will know soon enough.
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Great statement.  I agree with those thoughts that he's edging his bets a little but so what?   Don't blame him.

Just on face value he's critical, quite rightly, of the circus that is going on and I think he's genuinely just fed up of it all.  Puts the boot in on Fenty and I like the brassy approach of basically calling him out.

Not a fan of his constant media soundbites and would prefer him to concentrate on the football side of things but this is welcome.  

Anything that adds extra pressure to Fenty is a bonus and a shot in the arsenal for the Fenty Out movement.  

Always got time for people who admit their mistakes and he's doing so.  Next challenge is rectifying them.  
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Bold statement from Ollie. Could be end game for Fenty and co now after what has gone on in the last fortnight.
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Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56
There is an assumption in many posts that all board members knew of May’s proposed investment prior to Monday’s meeting and it is hard to disagree with that, however, assuming they knew about and agreed with it are two very different matters. No League 2 club is going to turn away a £1m gift horse without seriously considering how it could benefit the club and I guess we will never know when this investment was first presented to the board if this was accompanied with a resume of May’s past or if that resume was an accurate portrayal of his illegal acts. Nor do we know if certain board members, whether that be Ollie, Day or Trust members, opposed this investment from day 1, throughout the process or when the crap hit the fan.

Certainly someone close to the club released his involvement to the media so clearly not all members of those in the know were happy with the proposal. Think we should stop assuming knowledge of the proposal was agreement and acceptance of it.


This!

It’s not beyond the bounds of possibility that a director who had already formed a business with the crook was telling other directors not to worry about it, he’s looked into it, ‘never mind the quality just feel the width’.


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Bold statement from Ollie. Could be end game for Fenty and co now after what has gone on in the last fortnight.


You say "and Co" but it's not uncommon for directors to switch allegiances in Boardroom squabbles, especially when the odds are stacked against their previous "friend".


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You say "and Co" but it's not uncommon for directors to switch allegiances in Boardroom squabbles, especially when the odds are stacked against their previous "friend".


They may well be shifting their allegiances but it is all too late.

Take Fenty out of the equation and the rest of the board bring virtually nothing to the table. The whole lot want sweeping away.
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