The 2 Escobars - Storyville

Just finished watching the above on bbc iplayer. Really interesting, disturbing documentary on pablo Escobar and his namesake,  the Colombian captain , who was murdered after scoring an own goal at the U.S. world cup. Word of warning ,subtitled,100 minutes long and some gruesome pictures

Watched this a while ago, realy good documentary. Looking forward to the Finding Jack Charlton documentary that comes out on the 23rd.
The recent Bobby Robson documentary is good, too.

I watched this a while back too. It was very good. I never realised Andrés Escobar was such an accomplished defender (and person) and on the verge of a transfer to AC Milan, until he was murdered.

Great footage of Colombia’s 5-0 thrashing of Argentina in qualifying for the ‘94 WC.

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Watched this a while ago, realy good documentary. Looking forward to the Finding Jack Charlton documentary that comes out on the 23rd.
The recent Bobby Robson documentary is good, too.

Where was the Bobby Robson doc?

I know most Fishies won’t like El Diez, but Asif Kapadia’s 2019 doc on Diego Maradona was brilliant too.

Maradona obviously has many faults but his behaviour and persona was a cover for a scared and flawed genius.

The footage of him doing kick-ups, boot laces undone, whilst moving to the rhythm of ‘Live Is Life’ by Opus is unbelievable. Oversized Mars Napoli cagoul, pinched in at the waist, like the drawstringed trousers of something out of Last of The Summer Wine

Saw this a few years ago but will probably give it another watch as it's a really great documentary. I had money on Colombia to win USA 94 and remember them being heavily fancied, especially after smashing Argentina in qualifying and having a proper exciting team at the time with the likes of Escobar, Asprilla, Valderama, Rincon, Higuita etc. Obviously it ended in tragic failure. I never knew about the strong influence Pablo Escobar had on the national side and the country as a whole until watching this.

The Storyville documentary on OJ Simpson Made in America, (also available on iPlayer) is bloody marvellous. Its long (four episodes I think) but I can't recommended it highly enough, even jf you hate NFL.

Fantastic contributors, footage and insight into the causes and aftermath of the LA riots - and how it affected OJ's trial _ how he was later ostracised (and rightly so) after being acquitted and how he finally got his comeuppance.

Mad how OJ had the LAPD in his pocket. They fawned over him and his sleb status, despite his wife making various emergency calls as a result of his violent behaviour, which ultimately led to her death.

I could bore on about it more but won't!

I'll give The 2 Escobars a whirl.

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I know most Fishies won’t like El Diez, but Asif Kapadia’s 2019 doc on Diego Maradona was brilliant too.

Maradona obviously has many faults but his behaviour and persona was a cover for a scared and flawed genius.

The footage of him doing kick-ups, boot laces undone, whilst moving to the rhythm of ‘Live Is Life’ by Opus is unbelievable. Oversized Mars Napoli cagoul, pinched in at the waist, like the drawstringed trousers of something out of Last of The Summer Wine

Saw this at the cinema and loved it.

The opening scene with the footage of him being driven, along with police escort, to Napoli's stadium to meet the fans for the first time is incredible. Like a modern day gladiator. You could tell he was shitting himself, who wouldn't, as he's being mobbed by thousands of ecstatic fans.

Amazing that he was getting coked up, whoring, and clubbing virtually every night and still managed to lead Napoli, the then perennial underdogs and butt of many a joke, to the title, against all the odds, and then did it again!

He was chewed up and spat out by Napoli and the Neapolitan mafia.

Just think what could have been had Ivano been given the VIP treatment at the Bag's Ball, the Kingsway, the Pea Bung and Nicole's...

When you see the effects that fame, money and adulation had on the likes of OJ and Maradona, it’s a wonder that Ashley Fickling managed to stay so grounded

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Where was the Bobby Robson doc?

It's on Netflix at the mo. Gabriel Clarke involved, same as the Jack Charlton doc (no Andy Townsend involvement in this one though).

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Saw this at the cinema and loved it.

The opening scene with the footage of him being driven, along with police escort, to Napoli's stadium to meet the fans for the first time is incredible. Like a modern day gladiator. You could tell he was shitting himself, who wouldn't, as he's being mobbed by thousands of ecstatic fans.

Amazing that he was getting coked up, whoring, and clubbing virtually every night and still managed to lead Napoli, the then perennial underdogs and butt of many a joke, to the title, against all the odds, and then did it again!

He was chewed up and spat out by Napoli and the Neapolitan mafia.

Just think what could have been had Ivano been given the VIP treatment at the Bag's Ball, the Kingsway, the Pea Bung and Nicole's...

Yep, it’s quite brilliant.

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It's on Netflix at the mo. Gabriel Clarke involved, same as the Jack Charlton doc (no Andy Townsend involvement in this one though).

Yep, I saw the Bobby and Gazza ones on Netflix too.

The Maradona film was on Channel 4 (? ) during the the first lockdown. Absolutely brilliant film.

Went to Sorrento on holiday a couple of years back and there are little idols of him in probably 90% of bars there, about 45 mins from Naples. There’s a footy shirt shop in a back street there that still prints his name onto new Napoli shirts today.

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Saw this a few years ago but will probably give it another watch as it's a really great documentary. I had money on Colombia to win USA 94 and remember them being heavily fancied, especially after smashing Argentina in qualifying and having a proper exciting team at the time with the likes of Escobar, Asprilla, Valderama, Rincon, Higuita etc. Obviously it ended in tragic failure. I never knew about the strong influence Pablo Escobar had on the national side and the country as a whole until watching this.

Cost you a lot of money that goal? Would you like to call your lawyer 😉

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Cost you a lot of money that goal? Would you like to call your lawyer 😉

He has a history of Medellín in the affairs of the cartels

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He has a history of Medellín in the affairs of the cartels

👏👏👏👏👏

🧢 doffed

Best football documentary ive seen for ages is "Bury, bringing football back" on BBC iplayer.
Segments on You Tube too.
Hope we could do the same if the unfortunate happened.

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Best football documentary ive seen for ages is "Bury, bringing football back" on BBC iplayer.
Segments on You Tube too.
Hope we could do the same if the unfortunate happened.

"Sunderland Til I Die" was brilliant, just watched the Tottenham one and that was very good also, can't wait for the Wrexham documentary  

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He has a history of Medellín in the affairs of the cartels

Ooh! That's good.

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Just finished watching the above on bbc iplayer. Really interesting, disturbing documentary on pablo Escobar and his namesake,  the Colombian captain , who was murdered after scoring an own goal at the U.S. world cup. Word of warning ,subtitled,100 minutes long and some gruesome pictures

I remember a later Columbian goalkeeper doing what was described as a scorpion kick save; and my thoughts were if Escobar was murdered, wasn't that a risky thing to do? It was a classic though.  

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I remember a later Columbian goalkeeper doing what was described as a scorpion kick save; and my thoughts were if Escobar was murdered, wasn't that a risky thing to do? It was a classic though.  

Rene Higuita

Watched it this morning. Really good. Higuita was banged up so missed the World Cup. Very sad story but enjoyed a nostalgic look back at USA 94. Tito Asprilla, Hagi, Lalas, Rincon etc. Oh and the USA kit!

That scorpion kick was in a friendly at Wembley I think and the whistle had gone for offside. It gets played in compilations like it was a crazy save but he knew the ball was dead. When he went on the charge against Cameroon in the 1990 World Cup in extra time - that was risky!

Thank you 3 for your knowledge I have just had a look at it on YouTube.

It wasn't quite how I remembered it and he could have just caught it.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRj3dKKp9tI

The scorpion kick was great but ultimately meant nothing given the game had been stopped.

The Totti documentary is worth watching...

The Maradona film is excellent but it’s bonkers just how much power the Comorra have in that part of the world.

I shall be watching the Escobar documentary this weekend...

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The Maradona film was on Channel 4 (? ) during the the first lockdown. Absolutely brilliant film.

Went to Sorrento on holiday a couple of years back and there are little idols of him in probably 90% of bars there, about 45 mins from Naples. There’s a footy shirt shop in a back street there that still prints his name onto new Napoli shirts today.

I’ve been in that exact same sports shop! Got the obligatory photo of me punching the full size Maradona mannequin in there too.

As for Sorrento as a whole, what a place. Amazing place to chill out without the kids spoiling things!

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Watched it this morning. Really good. Higuita was banged up so missed the World Cup. Very sad story but enjoyed a nostalgic look back at USA 94. Tito Asprilla, Hagi, Lalas, Rincon etc. Oh and the USA kit!

On a side note, I remember the Colombia Romania game being billed by the BBC as being the 'Battle of the haircuts' with pictures of Valderrama and a Romanian fella with a massive mullet.

The Four Year Plan is another great documentary on Amazon Prime. It's about when in 2007 the Italian billionaires took over QPR. They were absolutely clueless at times. They nearly destroyed that club.

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Just finished watching the above on bbc iplayer. Really interesting, disturbing documentary on pablo Escobar and his namesake,  the Colombian captain , who was murdered after scoring an own goal at the U.S. world cup. Word of warning ,subtitled,100 minutes long and some gruesome pictures

Went to Escobars prison in Medellin and there was some cracking football stories told.  Escobar fell out with Maradona over his love of the naughty stuff !