Limbrick gone?

Ive heard limbricks left due to crap contract renewal covid clauses etc. Good source and may be wrong but seems solid sadly, hope im wrong

Shame if true but, sadly, it’s part of the game these days. In reality there’s probably dozens of aspiring coaches out there who would jump at the chance to come in.

Quoted from mariners1

Shame if true but, sadly, it’s part of the game these days. In reality there’s probably dozens of aspiring coaches out there who would jump at the chance to come in.

Ben Davies lined up as replacement maybe?

Yep he has gone today , not ideal preparations for our game tomorrow.

Says on Facebook- not ideal source- Limbrick walked and holloway told players dont bother training

Not surprised there was never enough room for him and Holloway

Quoted from Ipswin

Not surprised there was never enough room for him and Holloway

Oooh straight in...couldnt wait!!

Quoted from Ipswin

Not surprised there was never enough room for him and Holloway

Nothing to do with it. From what I understand his wife and child are based down south and he wanted to go back home and accepted a redundancy package.

May give us a chance to bring in a top player looking to get into management as a player coach.

As for Limbrick, seemed a good bloke but it very rarely works when a manager inherits his staff.

Maybe we will soldier on without an assistant to free up more dosh. Somebody already on the payroll will probably be asked to step in, in a dual role. Davies or suchlike.

Quoted from Youngy

Nothing to do with it. From what I understand his wife and child are based down south and he wanted to go back home and accepted a redundancy package.

If that's the case I wouldn't the least bit surprised to find that holloway has someone ready to step in immediately

We are skint guys very skint. Limbrick wasnt having his contract go so small. Fitness coach doing all arangements for new players and trailists, were skint end of.. Holloway not as nice as he comes across either, hence assistant left

Guess we’ll have to wait for the tech guy to come back off holiday before any formal announcement...

Joking aside, is heard a couple of rumours this week but didn’t think anything of it.

He does seem to have featured less and less since holloway got here...

Quoted from 1098

We are skint guys very skint. Limbrick wasnt having his contract go so small. Fitness coach doing all arangements for new players and trailists, were skint end of.. Holloway not as nice as he comes across either, hence assistant left

Have you had personal dealings with Holloway to make such an inflammatory comment?

Quoted from 1098

We are skint guys very skint. Limbrick wasnt having his contract go so small. Fitness coach doing all arangements for new players and trailists, were skint end of.. Holloway not as nice as he comes across either, hence assistant left

Give it a, insert sex and travel, rest .

Quoted from 1098

We are skint guys very skint. Limbrick wasnt having his contract go so small. Fitness coach doing all arangements for new players and trailists, were skint end of.. Holloway not as nice as he comes across either, hence assistant left

He is a football manager hence a streak in him but his character and wanting the best for all around him can not be questioned, likewise if you are not 100% he would not stop anyone moving on

Quoted from crusty ole pie

He is a football manager hence a streak in him but his character and wanting the best for all around him can not be questioned, likewise if you are not 100% he would not stop anyone moving on

Bang on the money, I liked Limbrick but I get the feeling Ollie's slowly moving out the players who were playing under Jolley, including the back room staff.

Or perhaps the pair clashed, the club offered a urine poor contract and he’s decided it’s worth moving on...

It is what it is, people come and go, only the fans remain...

Decent bloke shame if it’s fact but if we have a manager and 2 coaches then under the current financial squeeze that would seem excessive.

Always makes me smile when a good conspiracy theory latches itself on to a reasonable story.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Decent bloke shame if it’s fact but if we have a manager and 2 coaches then under the current financial squeeze that would seem excessive.

I’d imagine that given the club have openly claimed in the past that excess coaching staff isn’t something they see as vital perhaps they’ve just offered a excrement deal and he’s said “intercourse it” and walked away?

May be he has fallen out with Holloway, who knows...it’s been an odd pre season though...

Quoted from aldi_01

I’d imagine that given the club have openly claimed in the past that excess coaching staff isn’t something they see as vital perhaps they’ve just offered a excrement deal and he’s said “intercourse it” and walked away?

May be he has fallen out with Holloway, who knows...it’s been an odd pre season though...

In fairness he ain't going to up sticks if he's nothing to go to he's got a young family to feed, can only summise he's got something lined up that's more lucrative rather than the usual balls we hear on here

Quoted from aldi_01

I’d imagine that given the club have openly claimed in the past that excess coaching staff isn’t something they see as vital perhaps they’ve just offered a excrement deal and he’s said “intercourse it” and walked away?

May be he has fallen out with Holloway, who knows...it’s been an odd pre season though...

But it's highly unlikely that his contract ended in September, and not in the off season. So he would have absolutely zero reason to take a new contract on lesser terms until the current one expires. Sounds like putting 2 and 2 together.

‘This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”.  ?

Quoted from pen penfras

But it's highly unlikely that his contract ended in September, and not in the off season. So he would have absolutely zero reason to take a new contract on lesser terms until the current one expires. Sounds like putting 2 and 2 together.

Not necessarily, negotiations can take place whenever and we’ve been open about pay cuts and the like so anything could happen.

So as I stated, it could be a contractual issue, a falling out or a combination of lots of things...

Side note...comment from the non non chairman’s mate who’s now the chairman...”cost cutting” is cited...

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

‘This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”.  ?

Are you suggesting that Sparks flew?

Ive said the truth thought peeps would want to know. Everyting ive said is true and in advance of general knowledge but some on fishy always wanna dig so no more i know so much more than you shame!

Surely the concern is that club will continue without an assistant?

I mean there’s cost cutting and then decisions that just seem a bit odd...

Quoted from aldi_01

Surely the concern is that club will continue without an assistant?

I mean there’s cost cutting and then decisions that just seem a bit odd...

If Holloway has been involved in the decision I'm not so worried, but if he wasn't then I expect a backlash, he seemed to really get on with AL, but I've said this earlier, maybe he's just clearing out as much as he can that was associated with Jolley??..who knows..

There's always the chance a senior pro might see it as an opportunity to get his coaching badges with on the job training?

The board once again knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing. How long will Holloway put up with them?

Quoted from LH

The board once again knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing. How long will Holloway put up with them?

Holloway's on the board!!...

To go without an assistant for the season is staggering. And typical of this board

Phillip Day tells Matt Dean we will operate without an assistant manager.

How long before Holloway walks aswell?


Then we will be back at square one

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Holloway's on the board!!...

Which surely makes you question the sanity of the man when he has claimed he shares John Fenty’s (lack of) vision? Doesn’t that worry people?

Dave Moore will be gone next, May be Holloway fancies himself as a one man band? Is he any good with a sponge and some freeze spray?

He's a really nice bloke, he'll be missed.

Quoted from Davec

Phillip Day tells Matt Dean we will operate without an assistant manager.

How long before Holloway walks aswell?


Then we will be back at square one

He won't walk, nobody will pay him back his £100 000 investment...I think the man's more shrewd and ruthless than we'd like to think, I'd hazard a guess Ben Davis will become this right hand man...

So if Ben Davies is brought in then why the need to make the comment that the club will operate without an assistant?

I guess cost cutting is a good excuse even if it’s total nonsense.

I don’t don’t Holloway is shrewd but I’d also imagine he’d like to finish a career with his reputation in relative tact...with the continued poor leadership off the pitch, if we head towards the conference, would he want to be associated with that?

I would suggest that IH is not his usual chipper self during recent interviews but I have assumed this was probably down to the Covid issues and the ridiculous situation the EFL has placed clubs like ours by making them return when there main source of income has been taken away.

It could be that the cuts the club are making, plus supporting the salary cap and the perennial problem of attracting players to Grimsby are all additional factors affecting his normal positivity.

Hopefully a couple of wins will put a smile back on his face and put an end to the likes of me making any kinds of assumptions about what he’s thinking!,

Quoted from aldi_01

So if Ben Davies is brought in then why the need to make the comment that the club will operate without an assistant?

I guess cost cutting is a good excuse even if it’s total nonsense.

I don’t don’t Holloway is shrewd but I’d also imagine he’d like to finish a career with his reputation in relative tact...with the continued poor leadership off the pitch, if we head towards the conference, would he want to be associated with that?

I'm convinced Holloway is looking for a clean sweep, he's said repeatedly that the the team he inherited had a losing mentality, he wants his players and his staff and to build a selling club, I trust him but if certain people put their oar in, I have no doubt he'll be out of here like a rat up a drain pipe .

Quoted from Youngy

and accepted a redundancy package.

How can his job be redundant? How can anyone justify paying him off?

Bad timing, bad decision, and we,ll never know the true reason. All the best AL, and ty for your effort helping us, i for one applause you and wish you well for the future.

I’ve seen suggestions on twitter from accounts I trust that IH is not happy with this.

I think his job has gradually disappeared since Ollie came, hence the reason I asked about it on the other thread.

Davis is Ollie’s preferred sounding board and coach, simple as that. A restructure.

I reckon there is more to it than they are letting on.
No matter what pathetic reasons they are coming up with, I think Limbrick has been offered a job elsewhere and will be employed again within the next couple of weeks. Someone will have got wind of it and that's helped the Board make their mind up to 'ease' him out.

This board makes me laugh as the other day there was a post asking about Limberick's role, what does he do, what decisions does he actually make and i think some even questioned if he was still with us as he was that quiet.
Now that hes gone, suddenly everyones up in arms.

Personally i see it as Ollie makes all the decisions and runs the club, Greg helps with the training and surely Ben Davies will chip in with his experiences. Ollie took in all the reserves games anyway and we seem to have a tight network of scouts that Ollie calls upon so what does/would Limberick do that isnt already covered. I'd sooner see that hole in the funds filled with further squad strengthening.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I think his job has gradually disappeared since Ollie came, hence the reason I asked about it on the other thread.

Davis is Ollie’s preferred sounding board and coach, simple as that. A restructure.

My thoughts exactly, Holloway wants to change the way the club is run, I would hazard yet another guess that at some point he will want ultimate control at board level too

It was mentioned on the swindon forum that Danny rose  had also been doing some coaching last season.

Good luck to anthony did a great job for us, and hope hes got something fixed up

I started this thread. He left coz his wages were down to pathetic and could no longer accept it being acceptable, were really struggling with money we dont have any, understand that please

Seen a couple of suggestions that his departure could be an opportunity to spend more on players but I assume the salary cap only applies to the playing staff and does not include managers, coaches etc., is that correct?

If so money will not be going towards getting better players but might get us some porter loos for when crowds return!!!

So the board said they require evidence of sufficient proof of funds that somebody can finally support the club in the event of a drastic downturn but yet it seems they can't support the club themselves...

I wonder If Fenty still takes the 250k out of the club every year

Quoted from 1098

I started this thread. He left coz his wages were down to pathetic and could no longer accept it being acceptable, were really struggling with money we dont have any, understand that please

Nobody unless mentally unstable leaves a job because their wages are not what they expect unless they have another job to walk into. He's got a young family to support, so regardless of what you "supposedly" know, it's all a bit pie in the sky..good luck with your 11 plus btw.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

He's a really nice bloke, he'll be missed.

I fully agree, spoke to him a couple of times and found him one of the most approachable members of the management team there has been over the past few years.

Quoted from 1098

I started this thread. He left coz his wages were down to pathetic and could no longer accept it being acceptable, were really struggling with money we dont have any, understand that please

What about the ££££ that was raised only a few weeks ago?

I trust IH’s verdict more than a load of us without experience on a message board. There’s probably loads going on behind the scenes but it’s not up to us to make those decisions.

The board have managed to make excrement decisions by blaming the virus, yet it’s becoming more and more clear they’ve just been shite decisions. This is yet another one of them, if we’re not careful we’ll scare off our best manager in years.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

What about the ££££ that was raised only a few weeks ago?

I trust IH’s verdict more than a load of us without experience on a message board. There’s probably loads going on behind the scenes but it’s not up to us to make those decisions.

The funds raised that nobody knows what they'll be used for ?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Nobody unless mentally unstable leaves a job because their wages are not what they expect unless they have another job to walk into. He's got a young family to support, so regardless of what you "supposedly" know, it's all a bit pie in the sky..good luck with your 11 plus btw.

Or maybe was asked to take a significant pay decrease??
But hey like you say who knows,it's all "pie Int he sky "
Thanks to the OP for the heads up which was truthful and in good faith.

Where's the money going that was raised . Where did OP really go ? .....

Just when everything seemed to be coming together we lose our assistant manager on the eve of our first game of the season, the joys of following Town eh.

Quoted from Stadium

Or maybe was asked to take a significant pay decrease??
But hey like you say who knows,it's all "pie Int he sky "
Thanks to the OP for the heads up which was truthful and in good faith.

Bud, I've had to take a 10% wage cut due to Covid-19, but I just sucked it up as I have mouths to feed, it's not a reason to chick the towel in and walk away from a job, in time it will come out exactly what went on, my only hope is that Holloway was involved in the decision making, if not we are truly screwed as Holloway will walk away, which will be the worst thing in nigh on 45 years of supporting town I have ever seen.

Cost cutting, as the OP said, confirmed by the keeper of the purse strings himself -

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattdeanbbc/status/1301950020183261184


So after the fans have chucked in £200k, once again, where is this passion and commitment being matched by certain board members?

I find it strange that we’ve been saying that we can survive for a year without football and then, the day before football starts, we say goodbye to our assistant manager.

Funniest thread in ages, dead easy in my 40+ years of going to BP we’ve generally had a manager and a assistant or coach, in reality that’s all we’ve been able to afford.

Also he was a top bloke but under his coaching did players improve, did they hold the ball or pass it better? Did they make the right runs or decisions on and off the ball, did the finishing improve.

Maybe IH thought he just wasn’t at a level to take such varied squad forward?

Wake up and smell the coffee. Now would be a good time

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Bud, I've had to take a 10% wage cut due to Covid-19, but I just sucked it up as I have mouths to feed, it's not a reason to chick the towel in and walk away from a job, in time it will come out exactly what went on, my only hope is that Holloway was involved in the decision making, if not we are truly screwed as Holloway will walk away, which will be the worst thing in nigh on 45 years of supporting town I have ever seen.

??
By all accounts released due to cost cuttings & not to be replaced.
So maybe not walked away ??

Genuine question, how many clubs in League Two run without an assistant manager?

Quoted from promotion plaice

Genuine question, how many clubs in League Two run without an assistant manager?

Spent hours researching and it currently stands at 1

Quoted from promotion plaice

Genuine question, how many clubs in League Two run without an assistant manager?

Absolutely none other than us. Probably at all levels of football down to Sunday league too. In fact some might even have two in our league.

Just taking our management/coaching team size back to what it always was pre Holloway isn’t it?

Admittedly, the timing is strange. Unless we’re bringing in a player/assistant.

Wish AL all the best for the future just find it very strange this has happened a day before our first competitive game and not before pre-season especially when the reason is supposedly down to cost cutting.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Bud, I've had to take a 10% wage cut due to Covid-19, but I just sucked it up as I have mouths to feed, it's not a reason to chick the towel in and walk away from a job, in time it will come out exactly what went on, my only hope is that Holloway was involved in the decision making, if not we are truly screwed as Holloway will walk away, which will be the worst thing in nigh on 45 years of supporting town I have ever seen.

And that is the big one isn't it, as much as I liked Limbrick I just hope Ollie agreed with the decision.

Ollie is on the board so he knew what was going on he has two other helpers plus Dave Moore so did he need him or did he want a extra player coming in .?

Limbrick was still on a rolling 6 month contract so he could have been told 3months ago it was not going to be renewed.

Ollie likes.to be hands on anyway.

Ollie is on the board so he knew what was going on he has two other helpers plus Dave Moore so did he need him or did he want a extra player coming in .?

Limbrick was still on a rolling 6 month contract so he could have been told 3months ago it was not going to be renewed.

Ollie likes.to be hands on anyway.

Ollie is on the board so he knew what was going on he has two other helpers plus Dave Moore so did he need him or did he want a extra player coming in .?

Limbrick was still on a rolling 6 month contract so he could have been told 3months ago it was not going to be renewed.

Ollie likes.to be hands on anyway.

Smacks of a cheap skate club making a cheap skate decision and using covid as cover. IH was bemoaning the salary cap in his interview the other day, so it seems he doesn't stand four square with the rest of the board.

Holloway big fan of Davis , he'll step in I'd expect. Got more experience and probably knows more about how to play....

Where does the idea that if Holloway agrees or does something it must be right come from? He’s not had the perfect career, he’s naturally made mistakes so surely people can’t be that convinced everything will always be perfect with holloway?

We all want it to be that way but there’s still a chance as with any manager that it won’t be. What if he hasn’t agreed with this but the club have pushed on with cost cutting anyway?

It all seems so typically GTFC, hardly the best time for this to happen. A constant stream of negativity from the club, Holloway being his usual approve self, although that’s changed a little recently...who the intercourse knows but stuff like this doesn’t even surprise us anymore.

All we actually know is that he has left, NOBODY knows the reason behind his departure. Until the full facts emerge, could we please stop this constant griping at the board. There may well be a perfectly simple reason for him leaving, wife and family still live down south for example, or that Ollie doesn't think he is up to it, and wants someone more dynamic, after all, he has had plenty of time to assess how he works.

Just another stick to hammer the board with, sod the facts!

Tomorrows post match interview should be worth a listen, whatever the result....

Quoted from aldi_01

Surely the concern is that club will continue without an assistant?

I mean there’s cost cutting and then decisions that just seem a bit odd...

If the process has been a redundancy one, then it is the position that is terminated not the person.

You can’t make someone redundant and then re-recruit to their role.

I would guess the management team will reshape with the functions of an assistant being delivered without it being called that.  If the assistant role was directly replaced Anthony Limbrick would be able to sue for unfair dismissal.

My observation is that it is a means of moving AL on in as inexpensive a way as possible.

I would guess there is more of a plan than cost-cutting behind this.  

With our boards track record attitude towards backroom staff no real suprise they have chosen to cut back, they probably think all the assistant manager does is put some cones out on training days.

Not sure why people are attaching so much to this without knowing the facts?

We’re a 4th Division club operating on the back of a lockdown with no specific date when we’ll get match day income, despite the spin I also suspect projected season ticket sales are behind.

We have an experienced manager who clearly feels he has something to offer day in day out on the coaching pitch, why would we then need a two coach level underneath him?

Also it looks like we’ll be Tues/Sat for a long while so ...

Mon - Session
Tue - If your at home session or if not travelling
Wed - Day off for those who played Tuesday
Thur - Session
Fri - Game prep
Sat - Game
Sun - Day off for those who played Saturday

Maybe there is just not enough for 2 coaches to do for a while.

The ultimate question is did he jump or was he pushed?

Im sure I read that not only is Ollie the team Manager, but also the Director of Football.

Im sure the DoF has the powers to hire and fire staff as well as players.

Could it be Ollie ultimately wants overall control?

Our very own Ollie-garch!

Trying to work out the rationale behind the boards decisions since lockdown has been like reading tea leaves.  
If you buy the 'responsible guardians' glass half empty narrative then this move is more good housekeeping to protect the club for the long term. Philip Day wants to run a tight ship and the 25% pay cut, release of players, 'we wanted to keep' , a contract mishap with CV , and raised ST prices flow from that position. A policy with lots of fan support initially.

A number of other L2 clubs, however, have been more on the front foot with earlier training, lots of pre-season friendlies and bold ST campaigns. Glass half full approach.

Ollie has been clear on the salary cap but his board supported it. He has tried to be upbeat but the difficulty of attracting players to Grimsby , Covid clauses in new contracts and injuries before a ball is kicked are ramping up the frustration levels.

As soon as the OS and social media goes silent, rumours flood into the vacuum. When one of them turns out to be true the club are playing catch up. If the loss of Limbrick was planned then it has been clumsy at best. If it's a bust up then confess and move on.  

Christ is there an echo in here?

Quoted from mimma

All we actually know is that he has left, NOBODY knows the reason behind his departure. Until the full facts emerge, could we please stop this constant griping at the board. There may well be a perfectly simple reason for him leaving, wife and family still live down south for example, or that Ollie doesn't think he is up to it, and wants someone more dynamic, after all, he has had plenty of time to assess how he works.

Just another stick to hammer the board with, sod the facts!

According to Matt Dean the chairman said it was due to cost cutting.

It’s just the timing of it that’s strange an got people thinking theres more to it.

Quoted from Croxton

Trying to work out the rationale behind the boards decisions since lockdown has been like reading tea leaves.  
If you buy the 'responsible guardians' glass half empty narrative then this move is more good housekeeping to protect the club for the long term. Philip Day wants to run a tight ship and the 25% pay cut, release of players, 'we wanted to keep' , a contract mishap with CV[b][/b] , and raised ST prices flow from that position. A policy with lots of fan support initially.

A number of other L2 clubs, however, have been more on the front foot with earlier training, lots of pre-season friendlies and bold ST campaigns. Glass half full approach.

Ollie has been clear on the salary cap but his board supported it. He has tried to be upbeat but the difficulty of attracting players to Grimsby , Covid clauses in new contracts and injuries before a ball is kicked are ramping up the frustration levels.

As soon as the OS and social media goes silent, rumours flood into the vacuum. When one of them turns out to be true the club are playing catch up. If the loss of Limbrick was planned then it has been clumsy at best. If it's a bust up then confess and move on.  

There was no contract mishap with CV. There was a 1 year option to extend, but that could only have been exercised at pre-COVID pay not that number minus 25%.

Quoted from 140381

Christ is there an echo in here?

The site is running slowly tonight (I am looking into why). People are getting impatient and clicking more than once on the post button which results in duplicates. If you press the button it will post! Sorry about the slowness.

Quoted from mimma

All we actually know is that he has left, NOBODY knows the reason behind his departure. Until the full facts emerge, could we please stop this constant griping at the board. There may well be a perfectly simple reason for him leaving, wife and family still live down south for example, or that Ollie doesn't think he is up to it, and wants someone more dynamic, after all, he has had plenty of time to assess how he works.

Just another stick to hammer the board with, sod the facts!

New account John?

See this coming , good decision by the club

Matt Dean is a disgrerce.

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Matt Dean is a disgrerce.

Why is he?

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Matt Dean is a disgrerce.

Morning Russell, hows the court case?

I'm not surprised that he's gone, as Ollie didn't bring him in as his assistant. It was just convenient at the time to keep him on. I'm just surprised by the very strange timing. I wonder whether Ben Davies will assist Ollie instead, without being called his Assistant.

Quoted from forza ivano

Tomorrows post match interview should be worth a listen, whatever the result....

But will John Tondeur ask the question.................

Why is it always the playing side that suffers first when cuts “have” to be made, but the old boys club in the office never get looked at?

It’s all just a bit bizarre isn’t it, yet I don’t feel surprised. As said elsewhere, I struggle to see in what possible scenario we would leave the contract situation of our assistant manager until the day before our first game. It’s also strange that the site didn’t put anything out about it and all we’ve had is confirmation  from Matt Dean. Feels like they weren’t expecting it but are claiming they did. Who knows? Just another day in the life of GTFC...

Quoted from ska face

Why is it always the playing side that suffers first when cuts “have” to be made, but the old boys club in the office never get looked at?

I would imagine that they have been impacted as well especially as once all the season tickets have gone they'll be nothing for them to sell.

I would doubt any of them earn much more than minimum wage so the impact of cutting an admin person would be less of a cash "benefit" to the club,.  

Limbrick was a really nice friendly guy when I spoke to him. Sorry to see him go but that is football. Hope he gets himself sorted out somewhere closer to his family.

I suspect Ben Davies will perform the assistant manager role without being called that which has allowed us to make the position redundant.