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They had Div 3 North and South in the olden days. What was the reason for changing to the current structure?


One reason was that only the champions from each league got promoted to Division 2. They hadn’t invented play-offs then. Even Bill Shankley didn’t get us promoted. The other reason was that travel was a lot cheaper and easier in 1958 than it was in 1921 so that problem had gone. The final reason was that it allowed a better competition for the 92 clubs if there was a Div 3 and a Div 4.



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The one thing regionalised leagues would do would be to stop the absolutely ridiculous situation we have now where midweek away games tend to be against clubs miles away from home. The Football League have this warped logic that a lot of folk wouldn't go to the game anyway so put it on midweek when it can be nigh on impossible to get back from some games. Three of our last four away games at Carlisle have been midweek ones if I remember rightly?


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The one thing regionalised leagues would do would be to stop the absolutely ridiculous situation we have now where midweek away games tend to be against clubs miles away from home. The Football League have this warped logic that a lot of folk wouldn't go to the game anyway so put it on midweek when it can be nigh on impossible to get back from some games. Three of our last four away games at Carlisle have been midweek ones if I remember rightly?


Well Carlisle would still be in the northern league so it wouldn't stop that at all!
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The fixtures are computer generated, we’ve had season when midweek games aren’t far away...

I think the travel thing is being over thought. I really don’t see what GTFC would gain from being in a regionalised division, and as said, the playoff system would need a revamp and I’d imagine would lead to possibly even more games.

Surely clubs have to be a bit savvy and think about it. Look at all those times money was wasted opening the Osmond Stand in the conference when teams brought 25 fans...surely we could’ve just used a section of the main stand like so many other clubs do.

If travel costs are an issue then perhaps it’s the way it’s done, like I say, even after being in financial ruin Pompey were still flying to games and staying at plush hotels and the like...don’t moan about having zero cash if you’re flying to games in the midlands...get on a coach like everyone else.


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The fixtures are computer generated, we’ve had season when midweek games aren’t far away...

I think the travel thing is being over thought. I really don’t see what GTFC would gain from being in a regionalised division, and as said, the playoff system would need a revamp and I’d imagine would lead to possibly even more games.

Surely clubs have to be a bit savvy and think about it. Look at all those times money was wasted opening the Osmond Stand in the conference when teams brought 25 fans...surely we could’ve just used a section of the main stand like so many other clubs do.

If travel costs are an issue then perhaps it’s the way it’s done, like I say, even after being in financial ruin Pompey were still flying to games and staying at plush hotels and the like...don’t moan about having zero cash if you’re flying to games in the midlands...get on a coach like everyone else.


I'm fairly sure that EFL fixtures are not entirely computer generated, they involve a lot of human input too, also with requests from clubs themselves, pairing up with other local clubs on police grounds, and I believe I saw somewhere that the EFL in the past few seasons made sure that clubs had long distance away games midweek to restrict the numbers of fans travelling in poor conditions (or to use that excuse to boost i-Follow income)..
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IF regionalisation was brought in, in an effort to cut costs and/or boost gates - which is debatable, the fundamental problem would not be addressed, it would continue and would arguably get worse. Because the additional monies could well end up in players/agents pockets.  
Poorly run clubs are often guilty of irresponsible and unsustainable wage structures - regionalisation does not address that issue.

If cost cutting is an aim, why do we need so many substitutes.  Cutting substitutes to say 3 would enable squad sizes to be reduced.  Homegrown/young quotas could still exist and as a bigger proportion of the squad may even be of benefit.  A reduced squad of 3/4 would be proportionally a big saving.

As an aside a proportion of semi-pros in the short-term at least, may well be part of a squad make up for some clubs.

P.S. I assume agents will do their bit for the good of the game, by reducing their fees..........!!!
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I don’t really see how it’s possible to even start planning a new league structure when there’s no idea when clubs will be solvent without the income of fans ? A plan could be made in theory but it’s likely a lot of the National league clubs let alone those in L1&2 could’ve folded .


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IF regionalisation was brought in, in an effort to cut costs and/or boost gates - which is debatable, the fundamental problem would not be addressed, it would continue and would arguably get worse. Because the additional monies could well end up in players/agents pockets.  
Poorly run clubs are often guilty of irresponsible and unsustainable wage structures - regionalisation does not address that issue.

If cost cutting is an aim, why do we need so many substitutes.  Cutting substitutes to say 3 would enable squad sizes to be reduced.  Homegrown/young quotas could still exist and as a bigger proportion of the squad may even be of benefit.  A reduced squad of 3/4 would be proportionally a big saving.

As an aside a proportion of semi-pros in the short-term at least, may well be part of a squad make up for some clubs.

P.S. I assume agents will do their bit for the good of the game, by reducing their fees..........!!!


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