VAR & Martin Atkinson

If the referee is not sure on a decision and he asks for assistance-fair enough-otherwise keep your fking nose out.

VAR is male masturbation

Cricket has got it right. The umpire makes a decision. It can only be overturned in the case of LBW if only gets overturned if it is missing or hitting by a big margin. If it marginal then the original decision stands because the human eye cannot see such small margins.

In offside scrap the stupid lines and slide rules. If it is too close to call the original decision stands.Only If it is very clearly off or not  then overrule the decision. It would speed up the review because it would have to be be clear to the naked eye wether it was wrong or not.

Same with handball. The ball has to be deflected to make a difference.  We had a decision where the ball touched an arm as it dropped so a penalty was given. To me that was stupid as it made no difference to the game and the attacking team did not even appeal. We had to wait several minutes before it was given. Under last years rules it wouldn't have been given. The rules were changed to accommodate VAR.  That is wrong IMHO.

Quoted from Stadium

The referee has the final say.
In the case of the fox tackle it was the correct decision.
My issue would be that var was only used in selected matched that weekend.

My take on that as a spectator

Martin Atkinson gave a yellow card to Fox based on what he'd seen.... he saw what I saw; a clumsy mistimed tackle a couple of minutes in to the game

What followed though as a fan was a lot of confusion...

Atkinson may have had the final word in that he was the one who changed the yellow into a straight red but how did he arrive at that decision?

There were no protests from the Palace players trying to get Fox sent off.... it was reviewed by an anonymous official who somehow got word to Atkinson that his eyes were deluding him so as to the ref's decision being final, in our case it was the man in the middle who gave the judgment after the verdict had been decided miles away from Selhurst Park

For that reason, though VAR might have had potential.... I'm out  

VAR  was intoduced to make sure Liverpool wins the premiership. IMHO

As usual, PIGMOB over complicate things because their officials are basically useless.

Why should Offside be about anything other than the position of a player's feet?
All this crap using slide rules to see if a bald blokes head is playing a hairy sod onside is ridiculous. Or if an elbow is offside, or a hand?

The time wasted is more than they ever book any player for.

The adrenalin rush you get when your team scores is taken out of the game by these over officious fools.

Why waste time looking at cards? It's a foul said Atkinson - Yellow. It's a foul says some anonymous body 30 miles away - Red. WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Now we've had Riley say that VAR decisions were wrong and cost Arsenal a win against Palace. That's all right them Mike, mate.

No, it's tantamount to level 4 match fixing.

It'll be all fixed when BJ gets Brexit done FFS!

Feel for premiership fans slightly, their team scores a goal and just as they start celebrating up pops VAR, everybody then waits, sometimes 3/4 minutes whilst probably a championship referee looks at the evidence and decides to rule out the goal. The fans then shake their heads, because although they are in the ground nobody explains the decision. It must be extremely frustrating for them, but at least they've got prawn sandwiches to eat!!!

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

My take on that as a spectator

Martin Atkinson gave a yellow card to Fox based on what he'd seen.... he saw what I saw; a clumsy mistimed tackle a couple of minutes in to the game

What followed though as a fan was a lot of confusion...

Atkinson may have had the final word in that he was the one who changed the yellow into a straight red but how did he arrive at that decision?

There were no protests from the Palace players trying to get Fox sent off.... it was reviewed by an anonymous official who somehow got word to Atkinson that his eyes were deluding him so as to the ref's decision being final, in our case it was the man in the middle who gave the judgment after the verdict had been decided miles away from Selhurst Park

For that reason, though VAR might have had potential.... I'm out  

Exactly. I was disgusted at the time of Fox's red card and I am still miffed. Anybody would think I bear a grudge.

The match referee took all considerations into account at the time and deemed it a yellow. That alone would have stopped Fox or anybody else getting too pumped up.

To overturn that just because someone miles away thought he would have to get involved in the game because he could, was madness then and it is madness now.

Goals should not be ruled out for slide rule offsides. I have seen some posters sanctimoniously argue that "if he is offside he is offside" even if it takes a slide rule to decide, and even then it is open to interpretation. Complete madness.

I don't know why Premier League fans aren't more up in arms about it and boycott some games to bring the authorities to their senses.

Quoted from Stadium

The referee has the final say.
In the case of the fox tackle it was the correct decision.
My issue would be that var was only used in selected matched that weekend.

FFS are we still going on about that !

Quoted from Ipswin

FFS are we still going on about that !

Keep up at the back.
LCL resurrected the discussion about the VAR decision in that game.
The majority accepted the decision at the time & moved on.