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Heisenberg
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Surprised as anyone about this. I selfishly hope they get promoted purely because it would be good to have one Town game which was only 20 minutes away. They've got to be favourites. Yeovil and Notts County will seriously struggle. Chesterfield still 4 years away at least.


I would love an away day at Harrogate, but there's a definite downside; there's no way they'd cope with the demand from town fans, it'd be a modest all-ticket game and most would miss out.  Unless we were allocated 3/4 of the ground, of course!
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Dont have factual facts to back up penfras, I just thought it was well known Slade was instructed to cull the wage bill with Bignot's signings apparently being on big bucks. But again, the board sanctioned such wages in the first place, only to rip it all up soon after which stinks of no vision or plan for our progression.

And very nearly saw us relegated from the Football League.

Sam Jones was about the only player who looked like he could hit a barn door, before being escorted off to Scunny mid-Season. Very strange. It's not like Slade had stellar replacements lined up to fill the void...

I don't know if anybody can back up my claims but remember reading it in several places that that was what was going on at the time.
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Dont have factual facts to back up penfras, I just thought it was well known Slade was instructed to cull the wage bill with Bignot's signings apparently being on big bucks. But again, the board sanctioned such wages in the first place, only to rip it all up soon after which stinks of no vision or plan for our progression.

And very nearly saw us relegated from the Football League.

Sam Jones was about the only player who looked like he could hit a barn door, before being escorted off to Scunny mid-Season. Very strange. It's not like Slade had stellar replacements lined up to fill the void...

I don't know if anybody can back up my claims but remember reading it in several places that that was what was going on at the time.


It's one of those situations where we'll probably never know the truth.  But I think it's a very fair assumption that Slade's approach was to offload the higher earners and those who were given permission to commute in from afar.  I believe that Jones was still travelling in from the Leeds area on a daily basis.

Jones was a good player, hell of a lot of potential and all the right attributes to be easily playing at League One level.  On that basis alone it was no surprise when he got his Shrewsbury move.  Problem is that his attitude was miles off where it should have been and that's why I'm actually surprised he's managed to get a move to a promotion chasing Conference side.  

Slade no doubt knocked the stuffing out of him and with changed goalposts in terms of signing with the understanding you can commute in to then be told that's no longer the case, you can kind of understand any down-tools approach.  It's a job to these guys at the end of the day, I think any of us in our jobs would be far from motivated under such circumstances.  The other side is that he could have still pulled his finger out on the pitch and adopted a 'I'll show you' approach.  That, I guess, is the difference between potential and fulfillment.  

Jones and Callum Dyson is by an absolute mile the best front pairing we've had since returning to the Football League.  Nothing particularly fancy but just powerful, strong and willing running.
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Jones and Callum Dyson is by an absolute mile the best front pairing we've had since returning to the Football League.  Nothing particularly fancy but just powerful, strong and willing running.

Kayden Jackson and Bogle, surely?
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Other than impressing in his first game, I thought Jackson was pretty useless for us.  Quite clearly it wasn't an accurate reflection of him as a player because he's since gone on to far bigger and better things than us.  Maybe he wasn't quite ready or our tactics didn't suit him.  

Bogle was, of course, outstanding in that period but as a pairing I don't remember thinking they were any good.  Bogle was just unplayable on his own.
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Other than impressing in his first game, I thought Jackson was pretty useless for us.  Quite clearly it wasn't an accurate reflection of him as a player because he's since gone on to far bigger and better things than us.  Maybe he wasn't quite ready or our tactics didn't suit him.  

Bogle was, of course, outstanding in that period but as a pairing I don't remember thinking they were any good.  Bogle was just unplayable on his own.

Yeah, I guess Jackson didn't perform at all consistently. I think he had at east a few decent games though (Stevenage and Barnet at home off the top of my head). I don't really seem to remember rating Dyson particularly, will be interested to see if Plymouth use him a bit next season. I actually probably preferred Alex Jones out of the loan strikers we've had since being back in L2.
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Alex Jones was with us in the Conference


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Alex Jones was with us in the Conference

Ah yeah you're right...in that case, I actually probably preferred Alex Jones out of the loan strikers we had around that time.
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Other than impressing in his first game, I thought Jackson was pretty useless for us.  Quite clearly it wasn't an accurate reflection of him as a player because he's since gone on to far bigger and better things than us.  Maybe he wasn't quite ready or our tactics didn't suit him.  

Bogle was, of course, outstanding in that period but as a pairing I don't remember thinking they were any good.  Bogle was just unplayable on his own.


i thought Jackson was used mostly out of position as a winger whilst he was with us, Hurst basically killed his confidence by doing that and then Bignot got half a player when he came in


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i thought Jackson was used mostly out of position as a winger whilst he was with us, Hurst basically killed his confidence by doing that and then Bignot got half a player when he came in

I seem to remember he played in a two whenever Hurst decided to drop Vernon...which seemed like hardly ever, to be fair.
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