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It's a very popular idea with a small number of fans, most of which probably live in that area and think it's full of good,honest Grimbarians and not people selling stolen ham joints so they can buy smack. The other people who want it are old people who have a whole bunch of nostalgia for the glory days of Freeman Street and the Docks. The reality is the area has always been pretty rough and not really the best foot forward to sell the town as a viable commercial area to draw new business and growth. A shithole with a football stadium in it is still a shithole and it won't suddenly make the council spend money it doesn't have to rebuild the entire area. How many newly developed football stadiums do you go to and sing "This place is a shithole"? That's because it's true right? A new stadium doesn't fix a run down shithole. You all only want it because of your old rose tinted memories or because it's near where you live. "It'll be near the DOCKS and the DOCK TOWER will be overlooking the ground! It's be the perfect symbol of what being from Grimsby is all about and inspire the team!". I bet that's exactly what you're all thinking  .
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I don't think freemo will work, I would like it to work and think it's a wonderful idea and can see why most fans would like it there. However I don't see that there is enough room without it all feeling to cramped etc with the market, the shopping and such like. We need more than a football stadium. We need to generate an income on days when there is no game. We need to generate an income 7 days a week. We don't need a cramped squashed up thrown together building. We need 4g pitches. We need much more than BP picking up and putting on Freeman st. IF pp got the g ahead there would be transport links, park and ride, buses for the fans from the town centre etc. Freed up spaces on residential streets on match days so residents can park outside their homes which they are crying out for. If it gets the go ahead for freemo all its going to do is move the issues further along the road.
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It's a very popular idea with a small number of fans, most of which probably live in that area and think it's full of good,honest Grimbarians and not people selling stolen ham joints so they can buy smack. The other people who want it are old people who have a whole bunch of nostalgia for the glory days of Freeman Street and the Docks. The reality is the area has always been pretty rough and not really the best foot forward to sell the town as a viable commercial area to draw new business and growth. A shithole with a football stadium in it is still a shithole and it won't suddenly make the council spend money it doesn't have to rebuild the entire area. How many newly developed football stadiums do you go to and sing "This place is a shithole"? That's because it's true right? A new stadium doesn't fix a run down shithole. You all only want it because of your old rose tinted memories or because it's near where you live. "It'll be near the DOCKS and the DOCK TOWER will be overlooking the ground! It's be the perfect symbol of what being from Grimsby is all about and inspire the team!". I bet that's exactly what you're all thinking .
Go on then Kris, I’ll bite. Instead of (or as well as), slagging off everything to do with the fans, the area, the history of GTFC etc. Tell us where YOU think the new ground should be and how it would be financed. But you have to do it yourself. No help from your dad or your teachers . I await your constructive reply with interest !! |
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I don't think freemo will work, I would like it to work and think it's a wonderful idea and can see why most fans would like it there. However I don't see that there is enough room without it all feeling to cramped etc with the market, the shopping and such like. We need more than a football stadium. We need to generate an income on days when there is no game. We need to generate an income 7 days a week. We don't need a cramped squashed up thrown together building. We need 4g pitches. We need much more than BP picking up and putting on Freeman st. IF pp got the g ahead there would be transport links, park and ride, buses for the fans from the town centre etc. Freed up spaces on residential streets on match days so residents can park outside their homes which they are crying out for. If it gets the go ahead for freemo all its going to do is move the issues further along the road.
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The club don't have the finances to build it on their own so need it to have an enabling scheme to help with the cost of the development. That is why the club are not that keen. There's no room for additional houses or shops etc.to help with funding.
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Freeman Street = Community stadium, regenerating a poor area and altruism.
PP= Kudos and money making opportunities from housing development and ancillary buildings.
[b]Which one would be most attractive to a Tory businessman?
[/b Why drag politics into this? A businessman of any political persuasion ( yes there are many Labour and LidDem] businessmen ) would think that was a good business proposition. I don't know why some people use JF's politics like a big stick to beat him with. |
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Why drag politics into this? A businessman of any political persuasion ( yes there are many Labour and LidDem] businessmen ) would think that was a good business proposition. I don't know why some people use JF's politics like a big stick to beat him with.
I never mentioned JF. You did. Are you naive enough to think that local politics won't play a massive part in what happens? Politics are involved whether we mention them or not. |
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Hi john.. pleased you could join us!!
What a crass response !! |
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I don't think freemo will work, I would like it to work and think it's a wonderful idea and can see why most fans would like it there. However I don't see that there is enough room without it all feeling to cramped etc with the market, the shopping and such like. We need more than a football stadium. We need to generate an income on days when there is no game. We need to generate an income 7 days a week. We don't need a cramped squashed up thrown together building. We need 4g pitches. We need much more than BP picking up and putting on Freeman st. IF pp got the g ahead there would be transport links, park and ride, buses for the fans from the town centre etc. Freed up spaces on residential streets on match days so residents can park outside their homes which they are crying out for. If it gets the go ahead for freemo all its going to do is move the issues further along the road.
We don't need 4g pitches at all, Colchester United's ground has no shops, no housing and is Council owned. It has excellent facilities for evening events, concerts and other income generating stuff on non match days etc, its nowhere near a bus route so they run buses from the station. Difference is it's council owned and Fenty will do anything he can to avoid that.Granted it is next to the main A12 however rather than a restrictive and congested Freeman Street but the PP is no better. Lets face it the council aren't going to go for PP and Fenty isn't going to go for Freemo. Impasse! Unless of course the council make it widely known they will finance then rent GTFC a new ground in Freemo and Fenty might then have to agree or look even worse than normal |
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I never mentioned JF. You did.
Are you naive enough to think that local politics won't play a massive part in what happens? Politics are involved whether we mention them or not.
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