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So you agree that Podge’s scoring record since he left us is poor and proof he can’t hack it at League 2 level as the ‘flat track bully’ brigade would have it? Jeez.
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So you agree that Podge’s scoring record since he left us is poor and proof he can’t hack it at League 2 level as the ‘flat track bully’ brigade would have it? Jeez.
Hasn't he scored more goals than all our strikers since combined?* *Excluding Bogle.
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Hasn't he scored more goals than all our strikers since combined?*
*Excluding Bogle.
Exactly the point I was alluding to.
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So you agree that Podge’s scoring record since he left us is poor and proof he can’t hack it at League 2 level as the ‘flat track bully’ brigade would have it? Jeez.
Wow, that is almost the exact opposite of what I said. Not quite sure how you took that out of my post. I certainly don't think a striker who scores 12 to 15 League goals a season can't hack it at that particular level as I'm not in the "you're not a good striker if you don't score 20" camp. As everyone knows, we've not had a striker score near that but for Bogle since we returned to the League. Perhaps not surprising given how the forward line has chopped and changed since then as the goals haven't come. The worth of LJL is an entirely different point. Some stick to the belief that he's rubbish (and many thought the same about JLAA in his day), but I disagree. I think that a player such as Podge or Bogle would welcome playing alongside him. I wonder how many who didn't rate LJL are happy to see Cardwell back playing again? Cardwell works hard for the team but barely gets close to scoring and I'm pleased to see him return to the squad to provide a different option, but I'd pick a fit LJL over him every single day of the week. I have high hopes for Thomas now he's fit and up to speed (i.e. I'm hoping for more than a dozen League goals this season), but he's not going to show us what he can do as long as he's spending so much time outside the box and trying to lead the line.
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Wow, that is almost the exact opposite of what I said. Not quite sure how you took that out of my post.
I certainly don't think a striker who scores 12 to 15 League goals a season can't hack it at that particular level as I'm not in the "you're not a good striker if you don't score 20" camp. As everyone knows, we've not had a striker score near that but for Bogle since we returned to the League. Perhaps not surprising given how the forward line has chopped and changed since then as the goals haven't come.
The worth of LJL is an entirely different point. Some stick to the belief that he's rubbish (and many thought the same about JLAA in his day), but I disagree. I think that a player such as Podge or Bogle would welcome playing alongside him.
I wonder how many who didn't rate LJL are happy to see Cardwell back playing again? Cardwell works hard for the team but barely gets close to scoring and I'm pleased to see him return to the squad to provide a different option, but I'd pick a fit LJL over him every single day of the week.
I have high hopes for Thomas now he's fit and up to speed (i.e. I'm hoping for more than a dozen League goals this season), but he's not going to show us what he can do as long as he's spending so much time outside the box and trying to lead the line.
I was never a great LJL fan but I do agree with you about his work rate and space making for other strikers. The problem he had here was playing for a manager who believes goalscorers are by definition idle sods who rarely do the primary job of a striker which in his eyes is to defend. The result was LJL was often the only poor bu99er within 40 yards of the opposition goal and miles away from the rest of his team. I think that with a more open minded manager he could have been a Heskey like player for us, chipping in with the odd goal but creating a lot for others in the box.
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Isn't that exactly what he became? He scored 18 National League goals in his last season (yes, I know he missed another 73 decent chances) and Palmer scored a good amount in half a season playing off him.
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Isn't that exactly what he became? He scored 18 National League goals in his last season (yes, I know he missed another 73 decent chances) and Palmer scored a good amount in half a season playing off him.
Take off the penalties to get a proper goal count from open play.
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Take off the penalties to get a proper goal count from open play.
14. The point stands.
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14. The point stands.
It would do if someone else had scored double that or another 2 players had both equalled it, that was the problem.
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