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KingstonMariner
September 30, 2018, 8:15pm
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It is valid if you talk about playing. MJ never played a single game as a professional. I don't think Limbrick did either. Or Slade for that matter. PH played 100s of games at a far higher level than he ever managed us at.


Arsene Wenger didn't exactly have a glittering playing career.


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I never want that man within.an airplane flight of this club ever again....
Tell you who'd I've a sniff at, Russ Wilcox, maybe he did flop at york but certainly took scunny to another level...


Christ, I'd rather have Newell back


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Gary Bowyer or Ian Holloway for me. Someone who doesn't mix their punches and aren't afraid of telling the truth.

I'm sure either of them two wouldn't be standing on the touchline, arms folded whilst Morecambe make us chase shadows.
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Rich Mariner is right. We could appoint umpteen managers (and we have) but the results will remain the same. We got out of non league in spite of the board not because of the board. If you carry on doing what you are doing you will carry on getting what you've got. Luck will only get you so far.
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Surely for any club to ambitious and slightly successful you have to always invest into the playing staff / budget and we haven't for 5 years. So maybe that's where the issue lies.


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Gary Bowyer or Ian Holloway for me. Someone who doesn't mix their punches and aren't afraid of telling the truth.

I'm sure either of them two wouldn't be standing on the touchline, arms folded whilst Morecambe make us chase shadows.


I can see that working well with the Major Creditor.


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Why when someone presents (and quite well IMO) an alternative point of view do you and others have to resort to the stance that the poster must be close to the board/Fenty's relative/an actual board member? It stifles debate.
As for your point about John Askey I fail to see what you are getting at. It's clear to me that the poster meant the fans by "everyone" and whilst that might be a bit of an exaggeration it's not that far from the reaction on here is it? It's hardly news that someone turns down a job ....


To me it illustrates that the board didn't know what type of manager they wanted. John Fenty also said at the time he was looking for a "Brian Laws-type" ex-player looking to get into management and invited Sol Campbell for a chat. Phil Brown and Stuart McCall also claimed to have been contacted.

They, along with Askey, are all very different candidates and Michael Jolley was different again. It suggested, that the board were throwing darts at a list of names rather than having a clear idea and philosophy like the one outlined in Jolley's appointment.

That philosophy was a long term play. It was going to require full support from the board, not mere lip service and also patience from us as supporters. It's fair to say we are struggling with the latter.

The board may be having even bigger qualms. It maybe wasn't their philosophy in the first place, instead one that Jolley brought to them. If they sack Jolley, are they binning what was and is a great philosophy as well? Then we will be back throwing darts at names.
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To me it illustrates that the board didn't know what type of manager they wanted. John Fenty also said at the time he was looking for a "Brian Laws-type" ex-player looking to get into management and invited Sol Campbell for a chat. Phil Brown and Stuart McCall also claimed to have been contacted.

They, along with Askey, are all very different candidates and Michael Jolley was different again. It suggested, that the board were throwing darts at a list of names rather than having a clear idea and philosophy like the one outlined in Jolley's appointment.

That philosophy was a long term play. It was going to require full support from the board, not mere lip service and also patience from us as supporters. It's fair to say we are struggling with the latter.

The board may be having even bigger qualms. It maybe wasn't their philosophy in the first place, instead one that Jolley brought to them. If they sack Jolley, are they binning what was and is a great philosophy as well? Then we will be back throwing darts at names.


I guess what you are saying then. Is that we need to stick with MJ because  we simply can’t trust the board to formulate a plan for the future. And as sad as it may seem I actually agree with you. Our board are clearly incapable of structuring a solid way FORWARD for GTFC. Or somehow raising the finance to do so.
Any new manager will be joining with all the problems and lack of real (not lip service) support from the board. At least MJ is aware now of what he has got himself into, so let’s give him time to try and fix things that he started. I think most of us feel that the Freemo project will be the make or break for us. We just need something positive to lift us. Something this owner seems YET AGAIN reluctant to do.


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Playing experience?



Laurie Mac ?


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Quoted from "Pen Penfras"
What decisions is Fenty making that are actually affecting things on the pitch? The club set a budget and the manager chooses how to spend it. The board don't interfere with player selection or recruitment, whenever that happens, the manager is always quick to put it in the press to take blame away from himself and there hasn't been any manager that has ever suggested this. We don't make much money or pay off director loans each year, so the budget can't be that bad. They hired the manager that 1, everybody wanted and 2, kept us in the league last season.


Since John Fenty has been in charge of this club it has gone from being a Championship Club all the way down to non-league, scrapped back in after 6 years of non-league and now it looks like we are heading back there again for the second time under his stewardship. We manged 99 consecutive years as a football league before he came along.

And you doubt the decisions Fenty makes has an any affect on the pitch?
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