Who next for manager.??

I like Jolley he’s a sincere person in my view and I’m sure he’ll be hurting as much as anyone at the moment as he’s clearly worked hard to get his first EFL job.

All that said when you look at the last few games this group of players appear to be so far down the path of least resistance I’d be really surprised if he can get them back.

He did well last season and I believe that the catalyst for this was that quite simply “he wasn’t Slade” and the players responded to that.  

Maybe the players would respond better to a beasting of fitness circuits rather than a look at the ring binder and DVD, clearly the “modern way” isn’t working with this group of 4th Division “professionals” who in my view should take a share of the blame and respond in the right manner accordingly.

I think he should go but similar to Ginny if he stays I’m not too bothered either way as I think even if it’s not this season or this manager once again falling through the trap door to non league is inevitable under the current (and I use this word loosely) leadership.

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I think he should go but similar to Ginny if he stays I’m not too bothered either way as I think even if it’s not this season or this manager once again falling through the trap door to non league is inevitable under the current (and I use this word loosely) leadership.

If a totally inexperienced, wet behind the ears, man could save us from the deepest crap we were in last season with the bunch of shite he had to work with then surely someone with just a hint of knowledge with what is a better squad this season can extricate us from what is currently just a very shallow layer of excrement.

Division 5 (I refuse to call it non league, it is a league just one below where were are now) is by no means inevitable this season or any season. The immediate problem is to get the players to perform for a manager (they clearly can't or more likely won't respond to Jolley) who has some idea of tactics, game plan and team selection over and above the theory he's read in coaching manuals and coaching badges exam papers.

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If a totally inexperienced, wet behind the ears, man could save us from the deepest crap we were in last season with the bunch of shite he had to work with then surely someone with just a hint of knowledge with what is a better squad this season can extricate us from what is currently just a very shallow layer of excrement.

Division 5 (I refuse to call it non league, it is a league just one below where were are now) is by no means inevitable this season or any season. The immediate problem is to get the players to perform for a manager (they clearly can't or more likely won't respond to Jolley) who has some idea of tactics, game plan and team selection over and above the theory he's read in coaching manuals and coaching badges exam papers.

Don’t disagree to be honest clearly he’s proved himself when things are going reasonably well like the last half a dozen games last season.

A more experienced head would arguably know the best response to the pathetic defeats we are seeing not only in selection and set up but also when to get stuck into the players or put an arm around them.

I know you say that relegation isn’t a certainty but when you see what’s happening on the pitch we are danger of getting cut adrift which will mean a further drop in confidence and mentality which will be hard to recover for anyone.

Just to add I don’t think it will be performances on the pitch that does for Jolley it will be lack of numbers through the gate

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Just to add I don’t think it will be performances on the pitch that does for Jolley it will be lack of numbers through the gate

Yep. It's always the same.

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If a totally inexperienced, wet behind the ears, man could save us from the deepest crap we were in last season with the bunch of shite he had to work with then surely someone with just a hint of knowledge with what is a better squad this season can extricate us from what is currently just a very shallow layer of excrement.

Division 5 (I refuse to call it non league, it is a league just one below where were are now) is by no means inevitable this season or any season. The immediate problem is to get the players to perform for a manager (they clearly can't or more likely won't respond to Jolley) who has some idea of tactics, game plan and team selection over and above the theory he's read in coaching manuals and coaching badges exam papers.

Swin, once again you speak eloquently and Imho, the true hard facts as to what sits before us and for the that, you get a bunch of red crosses off people who prefer to put the hands across their eyes and fingers in their ears...
It appears to me most, including me up until Saturday, of the fans were still right behind Jolley without ever really wanting to face the truth...
That truth was, he didn't save us last season, slade going saved us....add to that the fact that Barnet and Chesterfield reacted too late, I'm convinced if Barnet had changed managers only 2 games before they did, it would be us down there, not them..
Sorry but now I look in without my rose tinted glasses on, I face the fact that MJ and his buddies do not have football management within them...
People mocked because I said last season he had Wilko with him, ever thought he was the older, more experienced head jolley needed??...dinosaur maybe, but I'll guarantee he'd have taken none of the shite we are being dished up....Slade being Fenties buddy almost meant he was gagged, once slade went I'm sure some of the resurgence came from Wilko kicking some butts with Jolley being the brains....

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I'm sure some of the resurgence came from Wilko kicking some butts with Jolley being the brains....

The Wilko performances were as bad as those under Slade.

M. Jolley should  stay but the assistant manager should be replaced by an experienced one to help MJ. He has been a breath of fresh air since his arrival, improving things at the training ground , bringing in some decent players compared to last season, his PR work has been excellent. He doesnt need sacking he needs proper help, get him an experienced right hand man.  A director of football could also be the answer. MJ wants to succeed and should be given time to do so. The players have got to take most of the blame for our present failures.

review all at xmas  but give him a chance now and take supporters pressure of him.

red crosses expected but its my opinion right or wrong.

ps Fenty does not play.

Agreed!  ^^

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M. Jolley should  stay but the assistant manager should be replaced by an experienced one to help MJ. He has been a breath of fresh air since his arrival, improving things at the training ground , bringing in some decent players compared to last season, his PR work has been excellent. He doesnt need sacking he needs proper help, get him an experienced right hand man.  A director of football could also be the answer. MJ wants to succeed and should be given time to do so. The players have got to take most of the blame for our present failures.

review all at xmas  but give him a chance now and take supporters pressure of him.

red crosses expected but its my opinion right or wrong.

ps Fenty does not play.

Yeah I get what you are saying, linbrick is a,waste but, let's get it right, he was Jolleys appointment, if jolley wanted to succeed maybe he should have know HE needed an.older, more experienced man alongside him....Sorry, but the buck stops at his door this time...I've said it before and I'll say it again..
This is, his squad, his backroom staff and his mess....kills me I'll admit that, but you tell me an older head who would work for a whipper snapper of a manager...