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Quoted from lukeo

9 days before kick off..

Pontoon 1776 - 32 sears remain
Lower 812 - 14 seats remain
Upper 1952 - 30 seats remain
Main 2177 - 100 sears remain (most restricted)
Osmond - 240 sold
Away 1165 sold out

Tickets sold so far - 8122

Not sure if all the Wrexham tickets have sold as I have just been on their website and there are tickets still for sale.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Not sure if all the Wrexham tickets have sold as I have just been on their website and there are tickets still for sale.

Surely they will sell out…although last time they came we made nice and hostile for them. I recall one their fans calling us Grimatasary on one of the forums…repeat needed…

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Surely they will sell out…although last time they came we made nice and hostile for them. I recall one their fans calling us Grimatasary on one of the forums…repeat needed…

You would think so, I was just pointing out that the claim they were already sold out seems not right as some are still for sale.

It will be interesting to see if the gate exceeds the 8,400+ against Notts Forest 18 months ago, whose fans filled the Osmand end.

Keep counting Lukeo.

There is only one stat I am interested in. And I think it might just go our way.....

Quoted from DB

It will be interesting to see if the gate exceeds the 8,400+ against Notts Forest 18 months ago, whose fans filled the Osmand end.

Keep counting Lukeo.

It’s not possible to beat that - the away allocation is circa 1,160. The Osmond Corner home capacity is about 500, so that means about 100 seats have been unsold this season as extra segregation.

On top of that one would expect people to only buy a ticket for a one off cup game that they can go to, so save for few who are ill on the day or have some domestic emergency all ticket holders will turn up. That’s never happened for any of league sell outs so far. I expect about 7,900. 100 or so fewer that the Bradford and Donny games last season.

6 days before kick off
Pontoon 1791 - 15 seats remain
Lower 820 - 6 seats remain
Upper 1962 - 20 seats remain
Main 2182 - 95 seats remain (most restricted)
Osmond - 265 sold - 13 remain
Away 1165 sold out

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

It’s not possible to beat that - the away allocation is circa 1,160. The Osmond Corner home capacity is about 500, so that means about 100 seats have been unsold this season as extra segregation.

On top of that one would expect people to only buy a ticket for a one off cup game that they can go to, so save for few who are ill on the day or have some domestic emergency all ticket holders will turn up. That’s never happened for any of league sell outs so far. I expect about 7,900. 100 or so fewer that the Bradford and Donny games last season.

We might not be able to beat last seasons league high of 8046 against Doncaster then . I think demand is going to be extremely high for Saturday with only circa 500 tickets left a week out . They really need to push that release the seat feature this week , and not just once a day before.

Second half of The Osmond is now open if anyone needs a ticket together- about half already gone.

About 300 left in all stands

Quoted from Mappers

Second half of The Osmond is now open if anyone needs a ticket together- about half already gone.

About 300 left in all stands

Will be sold out by Wednesday I expect. “You are only here for the Wrexham” chant is inevitable. We ought to have sweep on the game minute they first chant it. I’ll go for -2 two minutes before kick off. Of course our response will be “where were you when you were sh!t”

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Will be sold out by Wednesday I expect. “You are only here for the Wrexham” chant is inevitable. We ought to have sweep on the game minute they first chant it. I’ll go for -2 two minutes before kick off. Of course our response will be “where were you when you were sh!t”

Alternatively, comprehensively beating the fúckers should be sufficient to keep them quiet. A tough game, no doubt, but Wrexham are distinctly average away from home and below us in the form table. There’s the potential for the best atmosphere at BP this season if we can only do a job on them.

Quoted from Mappers

Second half of The Osmond is now open if anyone needs a ticket together- about half already gone.

About 300 left in all stands

Bought 4 this morning and checked again early afternoon and quite a few in a handful of hours had been sold.

Did the club announce they were opening the 2nd osmond block to town fans and when did they go on sale?

Quoted from StacyColdicotts_hairline

Bought 4 this morning and checked again early afternoon and quite a few in a handful of hours had been sold.

Did the club announce they were opening the 2nd osmond block to town fans and when did they go on sale?

No is the easy answer

Just this , they have failed to mention only a couple of hundred tickets left though .

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Some poor sods are going to end up in the back top left hand corner of The Main , even most of those have gone now though .

Left...

Pontoon        1
Lower            2
Upper            7
Main            79
Osmond      96

Total            185

As of Monday @ 21:57

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

Left...

Pontoon        1
Lower            2
Upper            7
Main            79
Osmond      96

Total            185

As of Monday @ 21:57

Pontoon SOLD OUT. 6.30am Tuesday

Left...

Pontoon       1   Sold Out
Lower            2
Upper            7   5
Main            79   80
Osmond      96   87

Total           185   174

As of Tuesday @ 09:23

Left...

Pontoon       1   Sold Out
Lower            2  Sold Out
Upper            7   5    4
Main            79   80   75
Osmond      96   87   63

Total           185   174   142

As of Tuesday @ 12:27

Left...

Pontoon       1   Sold Out
Lower            2  Sold Out  2
Upper           7   5    4   3
Main            79   80   75   70
Osmond     96   87   63   48

Total           185   174   142   123

Two released seats in lower - At least 62 sold since last night.

As of Tuesday @ 15:37

Sadly cannot make Saturday so just released my seat in Upper (M64) in case anyone looking for single seat with a good view.

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

Left...

Pontoon       1   Sold Out
Lower            2  Sold Out  2
Upper           7   5    4   3
Main            79   80   75   70
Osmond     96   87   63   48

Total           185   174   142   123

Two released seats in lower - At least 62 sold since last night.

As of Tuesday @ 15:37

"Today's 0fficial attendance is a magnificent 6,372."

Left...

Pontoon       1   Sold Out   1
Lower            2  Sold Out 2
Upper           7   5    4   3
Main            79   80   75   70   65
Osmond     96   87   63   48   26

Total           185   174   142   123  97

One released seat in Pontoon - At least 88 sold since last night.

As of Tuesday @ 21:34

Gutted to be missing this one but I’m watching some potential Ballon D’or winners getting kicked about by some South American cloggers at Wembley instead.

Quoted from gtfc98

"Today's 0fficial attendance is a magnificent 6,372."

‘And a big thankyou to the 386 Wrexham fans’

Only 7 seats left in the Osmond! Ponny and Findus sold out.

Quoted from mariner91

Only 7 seats left in the Osmond! Ponny and Findus sold out.

If the players turn up this has the potential to be the best atmosphere at BP since the last time we played Wrexham here.

Just the handful of restricted seats left in that back corner of the main if there is anyone left that want's to sit together .

All the rest single seats spread around the Osmond/Main.

About 60 left in total

I personally don't understand the mocking of us announcing the official attendance, i'd much rather that than tickets sold.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

I personally don't understand the mocking of us announcing the official attendance, i'd much rather that than tickets sold.

About the only club that do now

According to bradford fans only 6 or 7k there last night but announced as 10k+ more - most st holders didn't show up- big problems there .

Quoted from Mappers

About the only club that do now

According to bradford fans only 6 or 7k there last night but announced as 10k+ more - most st holders didn't show up- big problems there .

Maybe but also part of a function where you make your Adult Season ticket price < £8 a game and concessions fraction of that.

Quoted from Mappers

About the only club that do now

According to bradford fans only 6 or 7k there last night but announced as 10k+ more - most st holders didn't show up- big problems there .

Aye mate, there's a video on Twitter of just after kick off and the place is empty. Found it now.

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Quoted from Poojah

If the players turn up this has the potential to be the best atmosphere at BP since the last time we played Wrexham here.

that was some night at BP

Osmond seats sold well...

Monday 6pm - 227 [92 Main, 117 Osmond, 14 Upper/Lower, 4 Pontoon]
Tuesday 6pm - 121 [68 " ", 48 " ", 5 " ", 0 " "]
Wednesday 12pm - 62 [54 " ", 8 " ", 0 " ", 0 " "]

Quoted from grassbandits

Osmond seats sold well...

Monday 6pm - 227 [92 Main, 117 Osmond, 14 Upper/Lower, 4 Pontoon]
Tuesday 6pm - 121 [68 " ", 48 " ", 5 " ", 0 " "]
Wednesday 12pm - 62 [54 " ", 8 " ", 0 " ", 0 " "]

To be fair those seats in that corner are some of the best in the ground. Properly covered with mostly unrestricted views; always surprises me when I see seats at the back of the Main Stand going before those.

Quoted from Poojah

To be fair those seats in that corner are some of the best in the ground. Properly covered with mostly unrestricted views; always surprises me when I see seats at the back of the Main Stand going before those.

Agree completely. Three of us booked very late and were at the back of the Main at the Pontoon end for Donny and the view was (almost thankfully in that instance) absolute sh!te - back in Os Corner this time.

The next ground improvement spend needs to include getting rid of that fecking police box and extending the Main - not only will that increase capacity it will make that block of the Main an acceptable option.

Quoted from Poojah

If the players turn up this has the potential to be the best atmosphere at BP since the last time we played Wrexham here.

Yep. This is the first home game I'll miss since Gillingham and I'm gutted.

Quoted from mariner91

Yep. This is the first home game I'll miss since Gillingham and I'm gutted.

Funny you mention Gillingham as tomorrow marks 15 years since our 3-0 win against them at BP; Barry Conlon and Peter Sweeney’s debuts if memory serves. That was an important game that sticks in the memory for a particularly loud and raucous atmosphere that helped put a fancied side well and truly back in their shell. BP needs to be a really uncomfortable place for Wrexham on Saturday.

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Quoted from Poojah

To be fair those seats in that corner are some of the best in the ground. Properly covered with mostly unrestricted views; always surprises me when I see seats at the back of the Main Stand going before those.

On a couple of my rare trips home we’ve sat in the corner. Great view of the pitch from that angle in there and probably best atmosphere in BP , especially when a big away following turns up . I’d get a ST in there if they were available and I actually lived in travelling/ arsed to travel distance

Always thought the area where the police box is, would be the perfect place to house the disabled supporters as it’s perfect access right next to the gates. If, obviously unlikely at this stage, the main stand does get replaced/tarted up, then a proper unrestricted (and dry) viewing area needs to be high up the list

Quoted from Poojah

To be fair those seats in that corner are some of the best in the ground. Properly covered with mostly unrestricted views; always surprises me when I see seats at the back of the Main Stand going before those.

Great to know as a non-season ticket holder who's x4 on the back row of the main Saturday : (

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

On a couple of my rare trips home we’ve sat in the corner. Great view of the pitch from that angle in there and probably best atmosphere in BP , especially when a big away following turns up . I’d get a ST in there if they were available and I actually lived in travelling/ arsed to travel distance

I remember before all seating the Osmond corner covered terracing held circa 4000 and the Pontoon would decamp there when we were kicking towards the Osmond end. It was always the best area for generating noise

I know we have tried it before in the 80's, but shouldn't the whole of the Osmond end be the "home"end? Better acoustics, joins on to the Main stand to give a solid block of home support and isn't there a covered bar in there?

The Pontoon stands alone so would be perfect for away fans.

I suppose the downside is if away support is not very numerous.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know we have tried it before in the 80's, but shouldn't the whole of the Osmond end be the "home"end? Better acoustics, joins on to the Main stand to give a solid block of home support and isn't there a covered bar in there?

The Pontoon stands alone so would be perfect for away fans.

I suppose the downside is if away support is not very numerous.

No keepto tradition the pontoon money to build raised by fans for the fans.now what I would do if money was not tight is to extend the pontoon up to the main stand and findus that would give us a cauldron of noise

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know we have tried it before in the 80's, but shouldn't the whole of the Osmond end be the "home"end? Better acoustics, joins on to the Main stand to give a solid block of home support and isn't there a covered bar in there?

The Pontoon stands alone so would be perfect for away fans.

I suppose the downside is if away support is not very numerous.

I’ve always thought that too. Maybe because it’s always been deemed as the ‘home end’ that it hasn’t been done again since. I know people would see it as blasphemy but it makes sense doesn’t it? Easier for segregation too

Quoted from crusty ole pie

No keepto tradition the pontoon money to build raised by fans for the fans.now what I would do if money was not tight is to extend the pontoon up to the main stand and findus that would give us a cauldron of noise

Just re - name the stands, with a proper tribute to show the input from previous generations? Would anybody really object?

The New Pontoon stand.

Just released my ticket so one more available in Upper - good seat.

Left...

Pontoon       1   Sold Out   1   SOLD OUT
Lower            2  Sold Out 2   1
Upper           7   5    4   3   5
Main            79   80   75   70   65    45
Osmond     96   87   63   48   26   1

Total LEFT          185   174   142   123  97  52

BEEN OUT ALL DAY - At least 45 sold since last night.

As of Wednesday @ 21:04

Quoted from crusty ole pie

No keepto tradition the pontoon money to build raised by fans for the fans.now what I would do if money was not tight is to extend the pontoon up to the main stand and findus that would give us a cauldron of noise

That might be the plan.

37 tickets now remain

Quite a few releasing seats

The plan was (dunno if it still is) to knock the police box down and extend the Main outwards towards the Pontoon.  Makes perfect sense for me because you're both improving the shocking seats in that corner (let's be honest, they should never be on sale in the first place) whilst maximising that corner at the same time and effectively having 3 sides of the ground joined up (better utilisation of space and for acoustics with sounds that could travel round that side of the ground).  I do think this would be the start of that bit-by-bit-by-bit rebuilding of the whole ground.

In the short term though I really would get behind switching the Osmond and the Pontoon round. Noise generated in the Pontoon is completely lost due to the open sides.  According to the official site the capacity of the Osmond and the Pontoon is near identical (1808 in the Pontoon to 1884 in the Osmond).  I guess the only issue is that at present we can split the Osmond when it's limited away support, splitting the Pontoon would be a far more difficult task.

One more option...EFL rules are 2000 or 10%.  Our current capacity is officially 8777.  The Lower capacity is 826, or 9.41%.   60 temp seats would adjust that to just over 10%.  Not that simple I know and be highly unpopular.

Crux of it all is that we're a bit restricted until we do something, regardless of what that is.  What will be really disappointing on Saturday is if the gate is 6500 or so.  Hopefully enough season tickets have been released to push us closer towards that official capacity.

Quoted from The Yard Dog

That might be the plan.

They could save themselves the bother if they adopted the Osmond plan because if that is the home end it would be all of the Main and Osmond joined up already.

The Pontoon is the perfect away end with it being isolated from the home support.

Any ground improvement plans could then be spent on other areas.

I'm sure the owners have their own ideas but if we can get a full house when sitting 4th bottom of league 2 the subject of the stadium and any alterations won't go away.

Quoted from diehardmariner

One more option...EFL rules are 2000 or 10%. Our current capacity is officially 8777. The Lower capacity is 826, or 9.41%. 60 temp seats would adjust that to just over 10%. Not that simple I know and be highly unpopular.

Fúcking too right it would. Only reasons I’ll accept for having to move from my seat there are:

a) we’ve knocked it down to build something better
b) we’ve moved to a new ground
c) I’m dead

Preferably a) or b).

Is there any scope at all for removing seats and returning a stand - say the pontoon - to standing, and, if so, would that increase capacity?

As far as I understand we cannot change back to terracing, even if a new stand from scratch. Would have to be safe standing which gains virtually no extra capacity. :'(

We were in the Champ when all seater came in so due to the legislation can't revert back .

Wrong place at the wrong time on that front .

Quoted from Madeleymariner

As far as I understand we cannot change back to terracing, even if a new stand from scratch. Would have to be safe standing which gains virtually no extra capacity. :'(

Correct

Surely they’ll never swop home support into the Osmond and away into the Pontoon because managing 1800 unruly Doncaster/Wrexhem/Mansfield etc supporters down Grimsby RD would be an absolute nightmare?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know we have tried it before in the 80's, but shouldn't the whole of the Osmond end be the "home"end? Better acoustics, joins on to the Main stand to give a solid block of home support and isn't there a covered bar in there?

The Pontoon stands alone so would be perfect for away fans.

I suppose the downside is if away support is not very numerous.

No.

Quoted from oochiad

Surely they’ll never swop home support into the Osmond and away into the Pontoon because managing 1800 unruly Doncaster/Wrexhem/Mansfield etc supporters down Grimsby RD would be an absolute nightmare?

theres also the view on offer to consider. Now i havent been in the osmond since it was standing but speaking to a couple of people i work with who have sat in there as scunny fans both complained of not being able to see the pontoon end of the pitch from the back of the osmond. i can see the whole pitch really nicely from my seat on the back row of the the Pontoon.weather stood or sat.

Quoted from diehardmariner

The plan was (dunno if it still is) to knock the police box down and extend the Main outwards towards the Pontoon.  Makes perfect sense for me because you're both improving the shocking seats in that corner (let's be honest, they should never be on sale in the first place) whilst maximising that corner at the same time and effectively having 3 sides of the ground joined up (better utilisation of space and for acoustics with sounds that could travel round that side of the ground).  I do think this would be the start of that bit-by-bit-by-bit rebuilding of the whole ground.

In the short term though I really would get behind switching the Osmond and the Pontoon round. Noise generated in the Pontoon is completely lost due to the open sides.  According to the official site the capacity of the Osmond and the Pontoon is near identical (1808 in the Pontoon to 1884 in the Osmond).  I guess the only issue is that at present we can split the Osmond when it's limited away support, splitting the Pontoon would be a far more difficult task.

One more option...EFL rules are 2000 or 10%.  Our current capacity is officially 8777.  The Lower capacity is 826, or 9.41%.   60 temp seats would adjust that to just over 10%.  Not that simple I know and be highly unpopular.

Crux of it all is that we're a bit restricted until we do something, regardless of what that is.  What will be really disappointing on Saturday is if the gate is 6500 or so.  Hopefully enough season tickets have been released to push us closer towards that official capacity.

I wondered where you got this figure from The club's website states 9,031 seats.

https://gtfc.co.uk/visitors/

Quoted from DB

I wondered where you got this figure from The club's website states 9,031 seats.

https://gtfc.co.uk/visitors/

And that highlights another problem, the fact no-one seems to know what capacity is. I actually got that figure from the exact same page you've linked to. I didn't open the 'Seating at Blundell Park' tab though, I was looking at each individual stand.

Main Stand - 2277
Pontoon - 1808
Upper & Lower - 1982 & 826
Osmond - 1884

Total - 8777

Quoted from arryarryarry

No.

No what? We are looking for possible solutions. I've stood and sat in every part of the ground over time so why would it matter if we swopped things around? I get the sentinental side but the Pontoon is the worst of the two ends of the ground for facilities, atmosphere and it stands alone so difficult to create or join in with building up the atmosphere. Unless there are moves afoot to really build on to the Pontoon it makes perfect sense to me.

Just looking again on that site, it lists 22 wheelchair bays in the Main and 20 wheelchair bays in the Osmond, which if added to the other stand numbers takes it to 8819. 50 carers seats across both stands makes 8869, still short of 9031 by a distance.

162 corp seats perhaps?

Quoted from paulmblythe

theres also the view on offer to consider. Now i havent been in the osmond since it was standing but speaking to a couple of people i work with who have sat in there as scunny fans both complained of not being able to see the pontoon end of the pitch from the back of the osmond. i can see the whole pitch really nicely from my seat on the back row of the the Pontoon.weather stood or sat.

well, why didn't they just move down a few rows? There's always plenty of empty seats when the scunts or lincoln come to visit.....

9,031 - 8,777 = 254

Boxes + Executive area ????

Quoted from diehardmariner

And that highlights another problem, the fact no-one seems to know what capacity is. I actually got that figure from the exact same page you've linked to. I didn't open the 'Seating at Blundell Park' tab though, I was looking at each individual stand.

Main Stand - 2277
Pontoon - 1808
Upper & Lower - 1982 & 826
Osmond - 1884

Total - 8777

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1690829885/

It's been discussed on here before a couple of our regulars have an idea on capacity by counting the seats

Quoted from oochiad

Surely they’ll never swop home support into the Osmond and away into the Pontoon because managing 1800 unruly Doncaster/Wrexhem/Mansfield etc supporters down Grimsby RD would be an absolute nightmare?

Easy fix to that one.

The turnstile currently used for the Main Stand on Harrington Street becomes the one for the Pontoon. Current away turnstile on Harrington Street becomes the new one for the Main and corner of the Osmond one. Main part of the Osmond is served by the turnstile on Constitutional Ave.

There's already home and away fans sharing a road to enter/exit on Harrington Street, it would just be a case of switching them around.

Fourth bottom of EFL 2 ten games to go playing a team from 200 miles away and it’s a sellout. At least a thousand in the ground won’t be seeing the full pitch. Jason can you just explain again why we don’t need more capacity?

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

9,031 - 8,777 = 254

Boxes + Executive area ????

Was sugested Executive are is 256 on the other thread.

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1690829885/

Quoted from Mappers

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1690829885/

It's been discussed on here before a couple of our regulars have an idea on capacity by counting the seats

Thank you. I did recall this but couldn't find it.

Frustrating really that there appears to be no definite number, especially when I can imagine it's a difficult task to produce one.

Left...

Pontoon       1   Sold Out   1   SOLD OUT   3
Lower           2  Sold Out 2   1   SOLD OUT
Upper           7   5    4   3   5   SOLD OUT
Main            79   80   75   70   65    45   35
Osmond     96   87   63   48   26   1   SOLD OUT

Total LEFT          185   174   142   123  97  52  38

A few seats being releaced, More deeded by the look of it so if you are not comming on Saturday releace you seat please.

As of Thursday @ 11:39

You do talk bxxlocks forza ivano !

One league match you all quote where lincolnshire police told us not to travel as the roads were dangerous thats why i and friends didnt travel that night .Football is not worth it especially if there was nothing on it.

Unless you mean pre season friendlies which are glorified training exercises imo.

Uti

27 left now - all the ones apart from the 5-10 in that back left of the main are people releasing their seats .

So does it count as a sell out now ?

Quoted from David Frazer

You do talk bxxlocks forza ivano !

One league match you all quote where lincolnshire police told us not to travel as the roads were dangerous thats why i and friends didnt travel that night .Football is not worth it especially if there was nothing on it.

Unless you mean pre season friendlies which are glorified training exercises imo.

Uti

He's talking about the time you brought less than 500 on NYD when the roads were absolutely fine. I made it from Woodhall for that game which included going over the Wolds and there was no issue. You'll probably not remember that as you've probably only been going since the Cowleys, like 80% of your fans.

Ignoring the Gimp and getting back to topic.
All these posters giving sales figures and claiming to be ITK. I’m not interested.
I’ll believe it when I see an official announcement from Lukeo.
Until then it’s pure speculation !!

UTM

No i am a lifer ! Uti

Anyway who gives a intercourse about then its the present and future i care about now ! You play in a shithole ,near the bottom of league 2 and we dont.

The future is bright and its red n white( and black) !

Nothing wrong with new fans anyway there all wellcome at our progressive club( on and off the field).

Enjoy your little sell out in blunders park.

Quoted from David Frazer

No i am a lifer ! Uti

Anyway who gives a intercourse about then its the present and future i care about now ! You play in a shithole ,near the bottom of league 2 and we dont.

The future is bright and its red n white( and black) !

Nothing wrong with new fans anyway there all wellcome at our progressive club( on and off the field).

Enjoy your little sell out in blunders park.

oh just intercourse off you sad little oddball

If you are so progressive, so brilliant, so forward thinking, wtf are you spending your time on a rivals forum for you 6 fingered cousin snogging weirdo

Can't we ban this idiot Mods?

Less than 48hrs until kick off

Away fans 1165 SOLD OUT
Osmond home fans 580 SOLD OUT
Pontoon 1807 - 1 seat left
Upper 1981 - 1 seat left
Lower 826 sold out
Main stand 2254 - 23 seats left(14 restricted but 3 seats next to eachother with a good view!!)

8500+ seats sold.

25 seats remain. Which puts us at 8600 odd as a maximum capacity (segregation bringing the number down).

Amended *

Quoted from Civvy at last

Ignoring the Gimp and getting back to topic.
All these posters giving sales figures and claiming to be ITK. I’m not interested.
I’ll believe it when I see an official announcement from Lukeo.
Until then it’s pure speculation !!

UTM

Done.

Quoted from David Frazer

No i am a lifer ! Uti

Anyway who gives a intercourse about then its the present and future i care about now ! You play in a shithole ,near the bottom of league 2 and we dont.

The future is bright and its red n white( and black) !

Nothing wrong with new fans anyway there all wellcome at our progressive club( on and off the field).

Enjoy your little sell out in blunders park.

You've always been excrement off the field as well.

Quoted from David Frazer

No i am a lifer ! Uti

Anyway who gives a intercourse about then its the present and future i care about now ! You play in a shithole ,near the bottom of league 2 and we dont.

The future is bright and its red n white( and black) !

Nothing wrong with new fans anyway there all wellcome at our progressive club( on and off the field).

Enjoy your little sell out in blunders park.

Did your dad escape from St Johns hospital Bracebridge?

Quoted from diehardmariner

Easy fix to that one.

The turnstile currently used for the Main Stand on Harrington Street becomes the one for the Pontoon. Current away turnstile on Harrington Street becomes the new one for the Main and corner of the Osmond one. Main part of the Osmond is served by the turnstile on Constitutional Ave.

There's already home and away fans sharing a road to enter/exit on Harrington Street, it would just be a case of switching them around.

Sorry, I thought it had been mentioned in this hypothetical conversation that the main stand would have been extended taking over all that area where you come in a Harrington Street. I can’t see it ever happening, the swopping ends thing…..

Quoted from oochiad

Sorry, I thought it had been mentioned in this hypothetical conversation that the main stand would have been extended taking over all that area where you come in a Harrington Street. I can’t see it ever happening, the swopping ends thing…..

we have changed ends before

Quoted from lukeo

Less than 48hrs until kick off

Away fans 1165 SOLD OUT
Osmond home fans 580 SOLD OUT
Pontoon 1807 - 1 seat left
Upper 1981 - 1 seat left
Main stand 2254 - 23 seats left(14 restricted but 3 seats next to eachother with a good view!!)

7787 seats sold.

25 seats remain. Which puts us at 7812 as a maximum capacity (segregation bringing the number down).

Lower?

Quoted from woodi147

we have changed ends before

Yes we have and it was a excrement decision then and would be now.

Wasn't it Furneaux?

Quoted from mariner91

He's talking about the time you brought less than 500 on NYD when the roads were absolutely fine. I made it from Woodhall for that game which included going over the Wolds and there was no issue. You'll probably not remember that as you've probably only been going since the Cowleys, like 80% of your fans.

I got there from Heckington too Matt. All the Gimps couldn’t be arsed.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I got there from Heckington too Matt. All the Gimps couldn’t be arsed.

I went from Lincoln, journey wasn’t a problem but my brother went bottom over mammary walking to the game. Would have been the highlight of the night but we scored some cracking goals in the 3-0 victory.

Quoted from Mappers

Lower?

Well spotted totally missed it off somehow!
826 sold out.

*original post edited.

Quoted from David Frazer

No i am a lifer ! Uti

Anyway who gives a intercourse about then its the present and future i care about now ! You play in a shithole ,near the bottom of league 2 and we dont.

The future is bright and its red n white( and black) !

Nothing wrong with new fans anyway there all wellcome at our progressive club( on and off the field).

Enjoy your little sell out in blunders park.

You’re literally enjoying your best run of form in living memory and still couldn’t manage a sell out at the weekend even with loads of offers on. Congrats, massive club.

[quote=141276]No i am a lifer ! Uti

Anyway who gives a intercourse about then its the present and future i care about now ! You play in a shithole ,near the bottom of league 2 and we dont.

The future is bright and its red n white( and black) !

Nothing wrong with new fans anyway there all wellcome at our progressive club( on and off the field).

Are you bipolar ?

You come on here and give some reasonable points , but then follow them with some sort of weird gloating/fishing/goading posts . You might be above us at the moment but the bubble will burst at some point, to some degree and I hope you stick around here for when that time comes .

Quoted from Norseman

We will never put away fans in the pontoon as long as we are sculling around the lower leagues where most teams bring less than 300 .It doesn't make Financial sense to have 1500 seats empty we could possibly sell .In the osmond we can segregate and still sell home and away seats

Quoted from Norseman

Yeah, it makes no sense to effectively further reduce our own already inhibited capacity by making the pontoon one big, usually under utilised, away end.

Better to keep it as it is and use the flexibility of the Osmond to boost the availability of home seats when the away teams fans come in a taxi

Quoted from HerveJosse

Fourth bottom of EFL 2 ten games to go playing a team from 200 miles away and it’s a sellout. At least a thousand in the ground won’t be seeing the full pitch. Jason can you just explain again why we don’t need more capacity?

Can I ask, do you have a personal vendetta against Stockwood?....
It appears at every turn and opportunity you can't help but have a dig.
This man, along with AP have done so much for our club, they've given it back to the fans, acted with professionalism and integrity thar the previous incumbent could only dream about.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Can I ask, do you have a personal vendetta against Stockwood?....
It appears at every turn and opportunity you can't help but have a dig.
This man, along with AP have done so much for our club, they've given it back to the fans, acted with professionalism and integrity thar the previous incumbent could only dream about.

I dont think that anyone on here dislikes him , he's hard not to like.
The problem is that he never seems to be interested in increasing the ground capacity when it's obvious to all that it needs it.
Now I am sure there are reasons for this but it wouldnt hurt just to say we have no money for this and there's none coming in the future

Quoted from grimps

I dont think that anyone on here dislikes him , he's hard not to like.
The problem is that he never seems to be interested in increasing the ground capacity when it's obvious to all that it needs it.
Now I am sure there are reasons for this but it wouldnt hurt just to say we have no money for this and there's none coming in the future

That would be contrary to one of his first statements which went along the lines of ' Getting money isn't a problem'. Perhaps it's the paying back that is.

Quoted from DB

That would be contrary to one of his first statements which went along the lines of ' Getting money isn't a problem'. Perhaps it's the paying back that is.

And trying to raise 'good' investment in a line of business where more than likely stakeholders will never see anything back apart from 'the good ' of our club must be a very very hard sell .

Even though in the early days I'm sure he mentioned something along the lines of 'there is people with money in the Town who want to have an opinion, but are not willing to invest' .

I suppose the training ground is the first key test as to whether they can raise the capital in this industry ; if not they will either have to pony up 5 million quid , it won't happen or the club will accrue some sort of debt .

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Can I ask, do you have a personal vendetta against Stockwood?....
It appears at every turn and opportunity you can't help but have a dig.
This man, along with AP have done so much for our club, they've given it back to the fans, acted with professionalism and integrity thar the previous incumbent could only dream about.

No I just prefer honesty to BS on the ground capacity issue pretending he doesn’t know what our capacity is or what a sell out is or that we don’t need more investors. Just say we are not prepared to or can’t afford to put the money in to expand capacity and we don’t want to reduce our shareholding by inviting us in to pay for it.
Expanding our ground capacity is essential to our achieving any sort of long term success . 6500 is a near average gate in EFL league 2 now as crowds have improved accross football . With that restricted level of attendance we have already reached our natural level and that’s not good enough for me

Quoted from HerveJosse

No I just prefer honesty to BS on the ground capacity issue pretending he doesn’t know what our capacity is or what a sell out is or that we don’t need more investors. Just say we are not prepared to or can’t afford to put the money in to expand capacity and we don’t want to reduce our shareholding by inviting us in to pay for it.

I'm pretty sure Andrew and JS both addressed this as a priority, just when you piece everything together there's much bigger issues. Any expansion to the ground would be very costly. We've already seen that the ground work is proving to be very costly and that will continue in this off season.. I think it's 750 thousand that was quoted for work on the main stand? The pitch is in the best condition that it's ever been in, take a look around the football league at the state of some of the pitches and take a look at ours on Saturday... looks like it's not even been played on. The training ground is now that of a professional football club with suitable facilities for both staff and players and we are actually being run like a football club. In terms of selling out, how many times this season have we actually sold out? The more pressing issue is the fact most games ' sell out ' or have limited tickets available but then when it comes to the attendance being read out we are short of 7000. The current RYS incentive is okay, but I feel there could be more done. I also feel like the advertisement of the RYS is very poorly done across all socials, nevermind for the generation of our supporters that don't have social media? It'd be interesting to see the percentages of fans that have actually contributed to the RYS.

Quoted from forza ivano

well, why didn't they just move down a few rows? There's always plenty of empty seats when the scunts or lincoln come to visit.....

my point was why would we give up the pontoon where you can see the whole pitch from every seat baring a few posts to sit in a stand where the view isnt as good?

All BP needs is:

The two corners either side of the Pontoon filling in

A new roof to encompass the pontoon and both corners

The Main Stand knocking down, rebuilding, and joining up with the newly built corner

The Osmond knocking down, rebuilt, and joining up with the new Main Stand.

Simples!! Mind you, it’d take 4-5 years and cost goodness-knows what. Plus the housing of away fans and existing Main Stand ST holders would be a constant merry-go-round.

Be worth it if we had the money, no doubt. A new ground would reportedly cost circa £40-50m nowadays and of course should be Plan A, but nobody has that sort of money. The BP redevelopment would presumably still cost £20m at a guess. Unless the owners find someone like the Lincoln owners did who’s willing to invest (ie GIVE the club money with no hope of ever getting it back) then we’re stuck with what we’ve got.

Quoted from HerveJosse

No I just prefer honesty to BS on the ground capacity issue pretending he doesn’t know what our capacity is or what a sell out is or that we don’t need more investors. Just say we are not prepared to or can’t afford to put the money in to expand capacity and we don’t want to reduce our shareholding by inviting us in to pay for it.
Expanding our ground capacity is essential to our achieving any sort of long term success . 6500 iis a near average gate in EFL league 2 now as crowds have improved accross football . With that restricted level of attendance we have already reached or natural level and that’s not good enough for me

I think we can take announced attendance with a pinch of salt . We must be doing well with seats sold per game it must be 7k +

The release the seat scheme is a good idea from a financial point of view as it's effectively that seat being sold twice - the markup on the season ticket seat - a streamlined version of that might be helpful -- it's probably worth a nudge when sending out season tickets etc for people that don't use online/SM .

I agree with you fully about the capacity issue though as I always have it's one that won't go away and just an issue that will grow if there is any on pitch success .

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

I'm pretty sure Andrew and JS both addressed this as a priority, just when you piece everything together there's much bigger issues. Any expansion to the ground would be very costly. We've already seen that the ground work is proving to be very costly and that will continue in this off season.. I think it's 750 thousand that was quoted for work on the main stand? The pitch is in the best condition that it's ever been in, take a look around the football league at the state of some of the pitches and take a look at ours on Saturday... looks like it's not even been played on. The training ground is now that of a professional football club with suitable facilities for both staff and players and we are actually being run like a football club. In terms of selling out, how many times this season have we actually sold out? The more pressing issue is the fact most games ' sell out ' or have limited tickets available but then when it comes to the attendance being read out we are short of 7000. The current RYS incentive is okay, but I feel there could be more done. I also feel like the advertisement of the RYS is very poorly done across all socials, nevermind for the generation of our supporters that don't have social media? It'd be interesting to see the percentages of fans that have actually contributed to the RYS.

Massive kudos to them on the pitch , 0 games called off in adverse weather conditions at times .

Being this fit in March it should be in excellent condition come August you would have thought with some sun , no games and 3 months of prep work .

1 left in Lower
1 in Pontoon
10 left in Main.

Good going guys. 21st in L2, only won twice this year and been shite for years. That's great support.

If we get a really good run going and are in the top three next season we will have full houses every home games whatever the club says.

There will be hundreds or more fans saying I would have gone to the game but could not get a ticket.

If a church can ask the people to help fund. the building work why can't a football club .?

We could have a pay as much you can when and as often you can thats would suit you.

So The odd.fan. Might put in a fiver now and then the ones better off might put in hundreds or even thousands and in no time we will have enough money to start the work.Once completed the excess can be paid by the same way plus the extra money generated by the extra seats until it's all paid off.

I know there will be a few saying that's a no go for whatever reason but what else can we do because doing nothing will not give us a successful team.

You can give me a red cross if you like but I would rather you put your views on here as well.

Quoted from grimsby pete

If we get a really good run going and are in the top three next season we will have full houses every home games whatever the club says.

There will be hundreds or more fans saying I would have gone to the game but could not get a ticket.

If a church can ask the people to help fund. the building work why can't a football club .?

We could have a pay as much you can when and as often you can thats would suit you.

So The odd.fan. Might put in a fiver now and then the ones better off might put in hundreds or even thousands and in no time we will have enough money to start the work.Once completed the excess can be paid by the same way plus the extra money generated by the extra seats until it's all paid off.

I know there will be a few saying that's a no go for whatever reason but what else can we do because doing nothing will not give us a successful team.

You can give me a red cross if you like but I would rather you put your views on here as well.

Didn't we do something with this the first time we dropped into non league? I seem to remember something about a brick or something to do with the big gate near the Pontoon/Findus... I can't remember what it was used for but please correct me if i'm wrong.

Quoted from grimsby pete

If we get a really good run going and are in the top three next season we will have full houses every home games whatever the club says.

There will be hundreds or more fans saying I would have gone to the game but could not get a ticket.

What if we do invest in the ground which means we can't strengthen the team and we struggle in the bottom 6 again all season? Presumably everyone on here will be really patient and say it's worth waiting for the investment in infrastructure to pay dividends in 3 to 5 years? That's typically how football fans behave......

Tomorrow is the first sell out all season isn't it? Do we think there are many who want to go who won't be doing? I suspect not. Occasionally selling out doesn't strike me as evidence that we desperately need to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, which we don't have, rushing to increase the capacity of the ground.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

What if we do invest in the ground which means we can't strengthen the team and we struggle in the bottom 6 again all season? Presumably everyone on hear will be really patient and say it's worth waiting for the investment in infrastructure to pay dividends in 3 to 5 years? That's typically how football fans behave......

Tomorrow is the first sell out all season isn't it? Do we think there are many who want to go who won't be doing? I suspect not. Occasionally selling out doesn't strike me as evidence that we desperately need to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, which we don't have, rushing to increase the capacity of the ground.

Like I have said before (I will say it again) although we need some extra capacity imo , far more pressing is the overall upgrade of facilities and views for people who actually go now + disabled facilities - you would hypothetically remove the excuse of 'we would get loads more if we had a better ground ' view with doing this and get a better census of if there is a need rather than just ramming a load of extra seats in . The capacity with unrestricted views must be what 7000-7500 ; with a full ground of seats where you can see properly from every seat 8500-9k .I suppose the counter argument is people will still pay full whack to sit somewhere they can't see (for big games) .

I think retaining the new regular 6500 buying a ticket week in week out is as important as recruiting potential new fans , that you don't know 100% that you even have .

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

What if we do invest in the ground which means we can't strengthen the team and we struggle in the bottom 6 again all season? Presumably everyone on here will be really patient and say it's worth waiting for the investment in infrastructure to pay dividends in 3 to 5 years? That's typically how football fans behave......

Tomorrow is the first sell out all season isn't it? Do we think there are many who want to go who won't be doing? I suspect not. Occasionally selling out doesn't strike me as evidence that we desperately need to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, which we don't have, rushing to increase the capacity of the ground.

Sold out Wimbledon first game for sure as people were annoyed they had the larger section . I think a few more on 'seats sold' but is it ever going to be a sell out with the release the seat feature ?

As this game for example we will have sold more than the ground holds but the crowd will be short with the announced figure, with ST holders who can't turn up and don't/can't /know how to release their seat.

Quoted from woodi147

we have changed ends before

Was that for a season(s) or a one-off tryout? Just can't remember that.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

What if we do invest in the ground which means we can't strengthen the team and we struggle in the bottom 6 again all season? Presumably everyone on here will be really patient and say it's worth waiting for the investment in infrastructure to pay dividends in 3 to 5 years? That's typically how football fans behave......

Tomorrow is the first sell out all season isn't it? Do we think there are many who want to go who won't be doing? I suspect not. Occasionally selling out doesn't strike me as evidence that we desperately need to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, which we don't have, rushing to increase the capacity of the ground.

Gates at BP are all dependent on away fans. Can't remember away fans' sellouts this season.
The last time I remember a run of sell-outs is when Bonnetti played and being accosted to see if I would sell my tickets.
Ticket touts at Grimsby, its not that lucrative ist it? :)

The shame of it all is that the last two seasons have been buzzing for one reason or another, and this season has done some damage. I just hope the season tickets don't suffer for 24-25

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

What if we do invest in the ground which means we can't strengthen the team and we struggle in the bottom 6 again all season? Presumably everyone on here will be really patient and say it's worth waiting for the investment in infrastructure to pay dividends in 3 to 5 years? That's typically how football fans behave......

Tomorrow is the first sell out all season isn't it? Do we think there are many who want to go who won't be doing? I suspect not. Occasionally selling out doesn't strike me as evidence that we desperately need to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, which we don't have, rushing to increase the capacity of the ground.

Quoted from GrimPol

Was that for a season(s) or a one-off tryout? Just can't remember that.

At least a season, it was pretty full of Arsenal fans when we lost 3-4.

Quoted from arryarryarry

At least a season, it was pretty full of Arsenal fans when we lost 3-4.

1986 then.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Tomorrow is the first sell out all season isn't it? Do we think there are many who want to go who won't be doing? I suspect not. Occasionally selling out doesn't strike me as evidence that we desperately need to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds, which we don't have, rushing to increase the capacity of the ground.

It's not just the matches that officially sell out TBF, it's also the many matches that the few seats that aren't sold are either single seats or seats that really should be sold as restricted view i.e. the back of the Main towards Ponny end... Ended up there last time as needed 4 tickets, couldn't believe it wasn't flagged as a restricted view seat the view was dire. Then again that was the Donny game so probably shouldn't complain

It's not a major priority but it would improve the experience a lot if a solution did come about, especially one that also improved atmosphere. Always struck by how atmosphere sounds louder on Mariners TV than when you're actually in the ground

It's a catch 22 really have a successful team but can not increase revenue.

Or stay the same by not increasing seating so limited how much spare cash we have to improve team.

Near!y every team that are successful find a way to increase seating to keep up with the bigger teams that already have more seats than fans.

7 hours until kick off..

5 seats in the Upper (2 together)
Lower sold out
Pontoon SOLD out
Main sold out
Osmond sold out
Away end sold out.

5 tickets remain and all have a good view of the pitch

Quoted from MarinerWY

It's not just the matches that officially sell out TBF, it's also the many matches that the few seats that aren't sold are either single seats or seats that really should be sold as restricted view i.e. the back of the Main towards Ponny end... Ended up there last time as needed 4 tickets, couldn't believe it wasn't flagged as a restricted view seat the view was dire. Then again that was the Donny game so probably shouldn't complain

It's not a major priority but it would improve the experience a lot if a solution did come about, especially one that also improved atmosphere. Always struck by how atmosphere sounds louder on Mariners TV than when you're actually in the ground

You remind me that some years ago (I normally haunt Upper Findus) I bought tickets for an infirmed visitor in Lower Findus. What struck me is that I could hear the players calls to each other, and that the roar of the Upper Findus was in the background, certainly not as loud.
I can understand why some people prefer Osmond end to Pontoon if the "Crowd" lifts them.
As to the Mariners TV mic being in a strategic place, pity we can't have it amplified over the PA system. But I guess there would be some rule prohibiting it.

Quoted from lukeo

7 hours until kick off..

5 seats in the Upper (2 together)
Lower sold out
Pontoon SOLD out
Main sold out
Osmond sold out
Away end sold out.

5 tickets remain and all have a good view of the pitch

Only 1 left in the upper now

1 seat in the lower available. That’s it. Good effort.

Club needs to thank Lukeo for generating the interest in this match his seat counting generates pure panic buying amongst the fans keep up the good work

Quick one released in the Upper.

Someone should ask JS on Tw@tter if this counts as sell out…

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Someone should ask JS on Tw@tter if this counts as sell out…

It's 'oversold' in terms of tickets sold

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Club needs to thank Lukeo for generating the interest in this match his seat counting generates pure panic buying amongst the fans keep up the good work

*blushes*

😄 it's my obsession with numbers and stats that drives me to do it sadly.

'Tonight's official match attendance ladies and gentleman is 6999. Thank you for your support'

Full house! Theres spare seats all over the place in the 3 stands we can see!!!🤔

Quoted from David Frazer

Full house! Theres spare seats all over the place in the 3 stands we can see!!!🤔

This again

Quoted from David Frazer

Full house! Theres spare seats all over the place in the 3 stands we can see!!!🤔

There are spare seats allover the place when you have 10k in the only difference is you announce seats sold and have a higher capacity

Next question?

Don’t reply to the bell end they will be bankrupt like scunny in two seasons

Put your money where your mouth is Yoda ? Because you talk rubbish !You will be bankrupt before us as you have no saleable players .

Quoted from David Frazer

Put your money where your mouth is Yoda ? Because you talk rubbish !You will be bankrupt before us as you have no saleable players .

You’re both a pair of 🔔🔚’s TBH

Yoda you cant go bankrupt with no company debt and why would all the owners disappear when we are on the brink (like it or not ) of possibly going up via the poffs or automatics next ! USE YOUR BRAIN IF YOU HAVE ONE .

Quoted from David Frazer

Yoda you cant go bankrupt with no company debt and why would all the owners disappear when we are on the brink (like it or not ) of possibly going up via the poffs or automatics next ! USE YOUR BRAIN IF YOU HAVE ONE .

Because they haven’t got the big bucks required for the championship perhaps?

I know we are going bust in 2years however our buyback scheme is in operation for season tkt holders this friday v Orient.

If the seat is resold then there are several fees .A seat normally costs £24.

So we offer £11 adult seat and £8 a concession seat (couple of munor ones also).

What do gtfc offer people as an incentive do it ? These rates would surely make it more attractive to your fans to do ,solving some of your sell out problems and empty seats!?!

Quoted from David Frazer

Minor

You’ve typed your PornHub search into The Fishy again!!

Yoda and Frazer arguing on The Fishy . This forum should just shut now .

Shutting down the Fishy Forum just because those two twerps don't get the 'reasonable debate' thing is not a a great idea for the majority on here?

Whats not reasonable about the seat incentive debate !?!

We should close this thread. All the home areas were sold out on Saturday and that was the case from about last Wednesday night apart from seat releases by STH and those were all resold. There were about 550 home no shows not resold and for some reason the away end wasn’t full. We are one of a dwindling number of clubs that declare actual attendance and not tickets sold making comparison with other “attendances” somewhat meaningless. As is any hypothetical debate about GTFC and Lincoln seat release scheme. End.

If you can't make a game at Brentford and don't get a friend to use it for you, you have to make your seat available on the ticket exchange on pain of getting a yellow card. Get four of them and you can't renew the following season.

The incentive is you get a credit for the average cost of your seat over the season and the club sells it on at full whack making £15 or £20 on top. Both sides win.

There isn't really much incentive for Town fans to release their seat.

Apparently the Bees have managed to reduce the number of empty seats and occupancy has risen from 89% to 93%. However, 7% not showing up is still significant.

I don't really like the yellow card system. You have to offer your seat by 2pm the previous day buy as we know, there are always last minute emergencies you can't anticipate.

Town's rate of vacant seats probably mirrors other clubs.

Quoted from 800

If you can't make a game at Brentford and don't get a friend to use it for you, you have to make your seat available on the ticket exchange on pain of getting a yellow card. Get four of them and you can't renew the following season.

The incentive is you get a credit for the average cost of your seat over the season and the club sells it on at full whack making £15 or £20 on top. Both sides win.

There isn't really much incentive for Town fans to release their seat.

Apparently the Bees have managed to reduce the number of empty seats and occupancy has risen from 89% to 93%. However, 7% not showing up is still significant.

I don't really like the yellow card system. You have to offer your seat by 2pm the previous day buy as we know, there are always last minute emergencies you can't anticipate.

Town's rate of vacant seats probably mirrors other clubs.

The Brentford scheme is so wrong and certainly something that I would never support. When you buy something then it is your choice how much you use it. I believe if that kind of scheme was introduced at our club then I think ST sales would fall.