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I see the usual naysayers have come out of the woodwork.

Normal squad turnover that happens at every club in the land at this time of the year is being used as a stick to beat S&H.

The same people who complain at our finishing league position are now complaining that the players who achieved this feat are being released.

No one knows who is coming in and whether they will be better than those they are replacing. Think i'll wait and see before i pass judgement on the outgoings.

Quoted from ginnywings

No one knows who is coming in and whether they will be better than those they are replacing. Think i'll wait and see before i pass judgement on the outgoings.

I like the post Ginny....but what is most important is this......is it your turn to be optimistic and mine to be pessimistic or the other way round next season? ;)

Quoted from moosey_club

I like the post Ginny....but what is most important is this......is it your turn to be optimistic and mine to be pessimistic or the other way round next season? ;)

As my post says, think i'll just see what happens. I'm just hoping that we've bottomed out and it's onward and upward from now on.

It's interesting to see the different take people have on things. The pessimists and naysayers are pointing out the league position and the "exodus" of players leaving the club.

The optimists are pointing out the good run, the goals scored, the bigger number of home wins and the bigger points haul.

I'm somewhere in between i think and will just say i am being realistic.

Quoted from ginnywings

and will just say i am being realistic.

Wrong forum for that

We have gone into last weeks of pre season with 7 players signrd on. . . And one of the factors that people pointed to when we finished in the same position as we did last season, was squad stability!

Call me a naysayer but ffs gtfc have been naydoers for over a decade. . .

Grinning optimism in the face of such abject, repeated fsilure is quite idiotic!

Doom and Gloom is in evidence, fear not as we have Bradders! Left back, right back, centre back, midfield but yet to be proven striker. What more do you want? ;)
On a serious note apart from Coulson and Charlie the others that have left were not outstanding regulars who got praise after every game, in fact most Fishyites moaned about them so replacements will be found as Hearn was when that super hero Connell left. 8)
UTMM

We're barely into May ! Most clubs need to shift players on and get the wage bill down. Other players are under the microscope, but they're not going to be joining us yet, or the wage bill will soar, it's months until the season starts.

Take a breath and remember, it's still only May!!*

I'm nervous but confident in the managers. They have given fans something to enjoy this season. Yes we didn't finish where we wanted to, helped in no small part by a slow start to the season, but we were at least able to go to a lot of games this season and be confident of a win which is something we haven't had for a few years.

UTMM.

Quoted from 1054

I find it ridiculous that some folk on here are getting excited by who scitt and hurst are gonna bring in for silk, i'anson, coulson etc

All that is happening is more penny pinching saving on playets wsges throughout yhe summer months! Typical short termism from fenty

The end i fear, is nigh. . .

We'll be bottom half next season!

Its also worth noting that clubs only give contracts out until June 1st now so IMO thus us the reason for the players leaving now !

Surely we could use Trust members as volunteer players to further reduce the wage bill.

Quoted from 1054

I find it ridiculous that some folk on here are getting excited by who scitt and hurst are gonna bring in for silk, i'anson, coulson etc

All that is happening is more penny pinching saving on playets wsges throughout yhe summer months! Typical short termism from fenty

The end i fear, is nigh. . .

We'll be bottom half next season!

You've not heard the news that The Conference is to become a 5-a-side league next season then? :)

I can understand some of the concern about the shrinking squad, rest assured S & H will have all bases covered. Using their network of contacts, internet intelligence and from watching many games themselves they have built up a comprehensive database of potential new players to bring to GTFC based on the allocated playing budget and the style of play they believe will achieve success. Tha database covers all positions in the team based on a squad of 20 or so players. This will be made up of first choice first team squad (16 players) plus 4 or 5 players for cover and who have potential to develop further. For each position they have identified their top preferred target together with a second choice if they are unable to sign the first choice. There is also a back up list to be considered if neither of the first 2 are available/want to come here. If not needed the back up list will be watched further as the season develops with a view to possible loan signings and/or attempts to sign in January depending upon which positions they feel need to be strenthened. They have already identified targets should any of the existing contracted players be transferred out of the club, for example if the club accepts an offer for Liam Hearn and he agrees to move. So you can see with careful planning and an oversupply of players looking for clubs we have no need to have concerns about the shrinking squad. A clear strategy, forward planning and skillful negotiating skills are all in place to ensure 2012/13 is THE season. UTM

Quoted from oldun

I can understand some of the concern about the shrinking squad, rest assured S & H will have all bases covered. Using their network of contacts, internet intelligence and from watching many games themselves they have built up a comprehensive database of potential nplayers to bring to GTFC based on the allocated playing budget and the style of play they believe will achieve success. Tha database covers all positions in the team based on a squad of 20 or so players. This will be made up of first choice first team squad (16 players) plus 4 or 5 players for cover and who have potential to develop further. For each position they have identified their top preferred target together with a second choice if they are unable to sign the first choice. There is also a back up list to be considered if neither of the first 2 are available/want to come here. If not needed the back up list will be watched further as the season develops with a view to possible loan signings and/or attempts to sign in January depending upon which positions they feel need to be strenthened. They have already identified targets should any of the existing contracted players be transferred out of the club, for example if the club accepts an offer for Liam Hearn and he agrees to move. So you can see with careful planning and an oversupply of players looking for clubs we have no need to have concerns about the shrinking squad. A clear strategy, forward planning and skillful negotiating skills are all in place to ensure 2012/13 is THE season. UTM

I knew they could use ceefax. ;)

Quoted from STB

I knew they could use ceefax. ;)

We are definitely copulated then. Ceefax to be switched off by Oct 24th 2012

Quoted from grimsbyreaper

We are definitely copulated then. Ceefax to be switched off by Oct 24th 2012

Its fine, the transfer window will have shut by then, don't worry.

Quoted from ginnywings

I see the usual naysayers have come out of the woodwork.

Normal squad turnover that happens at every club in the land at this time of the year is being used as a stick to beat S&H.

The same people who complain at our finishing league position are now complaining that the players who achieved this feat are being released.

No one knows who is coming in and whether they will be better than those they are replacing. Think i'll wait and see before i pass judgement on the outgoings.

Absolutely right. Which of the released players was likely to suddenly become our star turn next season? The managers have secured most of the core of the side - GK CB(2) CM(2+) CF(2+) and are obviously looking for players who are better than the ones released. At least let's wait & see.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Absolutely right. Which of the released players was likely to suddenly become our star turn next season? The managers have secured most of the core of the side - GK CB(2) CM(2+) CF(2+) and are obviously looking for players who are better than the ones released. At least let's wait & see.

Spot on observation. As has been previously mentioned none of the players released have really shone this season with the exception of Coulson and he IMO was very hit and miss with his performances.We have retained the " spine " of the team and I'm fairly confident that The Mighty Duo will have had potential replacements in their plans prior to deciding to release players. They may have been set back by I'Anson rejecting the offer ( as indicated in GET Friday )but I'm sure they will have allowed for this. Some of the players signed last summer were on 1 year contracts which to me is indicative that these players were never intended to be part of any long term plans ( unless of course they really impressed ). Too often under the last three previous managers players were signed on long contracts with the result that when they didn't perform as well as expected it became a costly exercise to get rid. If nothing else The Dynamic Duo have proved to be ruthless when it comes to removing under-achieving players. They are used to working with tight budgets in the non-league scene and know what wages get you what kind of player.

Quoted from rancido

They are used to working with tight budgets in the non-league scene and know what wages get you what kind of player.

Exactly, there not stupid, they would'nt of let them players go unless they'd already lined up replacements, like Hurst said they've had targets since January, i fully trust them to go and make the right signings.

Quoted from rancido

Spot on observation. As has been previously mentioned none of the players released have really shone this season with the exception of Coulson and he IMO was very hit and miss with his performances.We have retained the " spine " of the team and I'm fairly confident that The Mighty Duo will have had potential replacements in their plans prior to deciding to release players. They may have been set back by I'Anson rejecting the offer ( as indicated in GET Friday )but I'm sure they will have allowed for this. Some of the players signed last summer were on 1 year contracts which to me is indicative that these players were never intended to be part of any long term plans ( unless of course they really impressed ). Too often under the last three previous managers players were signed on long contracts with the result that when they didn't perform as well as expected it became a costly exercise to get rid. If nothing else The Dynamic Duo have proved to be ruthless when it comes to removing under-achieving players. They are used to working with tight budgets in the non-league scene and know what wages get you what kind of player.

Exactly, the only player they signed on for longer than 2 years?

player of the season!! suggests they know what they are doing.

Quoted from oldun

I can understand some of the concern about the shrinking squad, rest assured S & H will have all bases covered. Using their network of contacts, internet intelligence and from watching many games themselves they have built up a comprehensive database of potential new players to bring to GTFC based on the allocated playing budget and the style of play they believe will achieve success. Tha database covers all positions in the team based on a squad of 20 or so players. This will be made up of first choice first team squad (16 players) plus 4 or 5 players for cover and who have potential to develop further. For each position they have identified their top preferred target together with a second choice if they are unable to sign the first choice. There is also a back up list to be considered if neither of the first 2 are available/want to come here. If not needed the back up list will be watched further as the season develops with a view to possible loan signings and/or attempts to sign in January depending upon which positions they feel need to be strenthened. They have already identified targets should any of the existing contracted players be transferred out of the club, for example if the club accepts an offer for Liam Hearn and he agrees to move. So you can see with careful planning and an oversupply of players looking for clubs we have no need to have concerns about the shrinking squad. A clear strategy, forward planning and skillful negotiating skills are all in place to ensure 2012/13 is THE season. UTM

Thanks for that Mr Hurst, I knew you weren't Rob Scott as you would have added "if you don't facking like it, don't facking come.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Thanks for that Mr Hurst, I knew you weren't Rob Scott as you would have added "if you don't facking like it, don't facking come.

Rumbled, but I hope you like the strategy

Quoted from oldun

I can understand some of the concern about the shrinking squad, rest assured S & H will have all bases covered. Using their network of contacts, internet intelligence and from watching many games themselves they have built up a comprehensive database of potential new players to bring to GTFC based on the allocated playing budget and the style of play they believe will achieve success. Tha database covers all positions in the team based on a squad of 20 or so players. This will be made up of first choice first team squad (16 players) plus 4 or 5 players for cover and who have potential to develop further. For each position they have identified their top preferred target together with a second choice if they are unable to sign the first choice. There is also a back up list to be considered if neither of the first 2 are available/want to come here. If not needed the back up list will be watched further as the season develops with a view to possible loan signings and/or attempts to sign in January depending upon which positions they feel need to be strenthened. They have already identified targets should any of the existing contracted players be transferred out of the club, for example if the club accepts an offer for Liam Hearn and he agrees to move. So you can see with careful planning and an oversupply of players looking for clubs we have no need to have concerns about the shrinking squad. A clear strategy, forward planning and skillful negotiating skills are all in place to ensure 2012/13 is THE season. UTM

Your inside knowledge is very impressive ! ;)

flipping hell! Listen to yourselves flipping hell what a joke. It's only football people who are saying you're nervous? Ge a grip!

Quoted from mariner91

Its fine, the transfer window will have shut by then, don't worry.

We don't need a transfer window, we need a fookin transfer eden project. ;)

Quoted from oldun

I can understand some of the concern about the shrinking squad, rest assured S & H will have all bases covered. Using their network of contacts, internet intelligence and from watching many games themselves they have built up a comprehensive database of potential new players to bring to GTFC based on the allocated playing budget and the style of play they believe will achieve success. Tha database covers all positions in the team based on a squad of 20 or so players. This will be made up of first choice first team squad (16 players) plus 4 or 5 players for cover and who have potential to develop further. For each position they have identified their top preferred target together with a second choice if they are unable to sign the first choice. There is also a back up list to be considered if neither of the first 2 are available/want to come here. If not needed the back up list will be watched further as the season develops with a view to possible loan signings and/or attempts to sign in January depending upon which positions they feel need to be strenthened. They have already identified targets should any of the existing contracted players be transferred out of the club, for example if the club accepts an offer for Liam Hearn and he agrees to move. So you can see with careful planning and an oversupply of players looking for clubs we have no need to have concerns about the shrinking squad. A clear strategy, forward planning and skillful negotiating skills are all in place to ensure 2012/13 is THE season. UTM

Dont you think thats what they should of done at the end of last season ;D