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I’d imagine Hunt and Clifton will be gone. Thompson, Ainley, Khouri and Green plus another with some quality would work. Green and Khouri being the back ups.


I’m assuming Ainley would play most advanced of a 3.
Thompson Ainley Hunt Green plus starter in the high tempo ball winner mould. Or swap Khouri for Green in that. If Hunt goes we have to bring 2 in the midfield. Harry stays as utility wing back.
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Yeah... got Crewe promoted... awful record
They were relegated but only cos he lost half of his team


Not if you speak to Crewe fans..
Yes, he got them promoted, with a team he didn't build, and yes, the club sold a lot of that squad when in lg1..
But, his team he built, the players he signed got them relegated.
So, is Artell a good manager of players that are found to suit him but not a good manager at finding those players?..Thompson, Hume, Tharme where identified by Joe Hutchinson and so was Conteh.
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Imagine it must’ve been píss-boilingly frustrating for Stockwood, Pettit & especially Joe Hutchinson to have spent months looking at specific players only for Hurst to turn around and sign a load of garbage because he’d worked with them or tried to sign them previously.

“Ok Paul, here’s a dissertation-length review of 10 different strikers who would be perfect”
“No thanks, unless Rekeil Pyke’s in there I don’t wanna know. He’s our no.9”

I didn’t, and still don’t, agree with anyone aside from the manager trying to dictate the way we play. But if the instruction from the board was “no more setting up to nick a 1-0 win, especially at home”, you can see why Hurst got booted and Artell started in the gung-ho manner he did.

Must’ve been frustrating for the players too. People like Mullarkey who’s spent his whole career on the right of a three, forced to play as a RB for 2/3rds of the season. Rose has earned himself a decent break.

No idea what to expect next year. First summer window since 2020 that hasn’t been overseen by Hurst and Stockwood seemed to be hinting at a bit of a step change in that department going into next season. I certainly don’t want to hear anymore signings announce that they can play “anywhere across the back/front line”, or on either wing, just behind or striker or running in behind. 22 specialists is what we need, no more jack-of-all-trades.
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Not if you speak to Crewe fans..
Yes, he got them promoted, with a team he didn't build, and yes, the club sold a lot of that squad when in lg1..
But, his team he built, the players he signed got them relegated.
So, is Artell a good manager of players that are found to suit him but not a good manager at finding those players?..Thompson, Hume, Tharme where identified by Joe Hutchinson and so was Conteh.


They’ll be the Crewe supporters who were happy when he got them promoted & p1ssed at him when they got relegated then. Just like the majority of supporters at any club would be.

So isn’t that how it works when you have a head of recruitment? Joe identifies, researches, does all the scouting stuff and possibly starts to build the relationship & then presents the options to the manager to make the decision?

Don’t forget he’s here as the “Head Coach” so pretty much isn’t expected to identify all his targets, personally as long as he has the final say I’m comfortable with that.


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Imagine it must’ve been píss-boilingly frustrating for Stockwood, Pettit & especially Joe Hutchinson to have spent months looking at specific players only for Hurst to turn around and sign a load of garbage because he’d worked with them or tried to sign them previously.

“Ok Paul, here’s a dissertation-length review of 10 different strikers who would be perfect”
“No thanks, unless Rekeil Pyke’s in there I don’t wanna know. He’s our no.9”

I didn’t, and still don’t, agree with anyone aside from the manager trying to dictate the way we play. But if the instruction from the board was “no more setting up to nick a 1-0 win, especially at home”, you can see why Hurst got booted and Artell started in the gung-ho manner he did.

Must’ve been frustrating for the players too. People like Mullarkey who’s spent his whole career on the right of a three, forced to play as a RB for 2/3rds of the season. Rose has earned himself a decent break.

No idea what to expect next year. First summer window since 2020 that hasn’t been overseen by Hurst and Stockwood seemed to be hinting at a bit of a step change in that department going into next season. I certainly don’t want to hear anymore signings announce that they can play “anywhere across the back/front line”, or on either wing, just behind or striker or running in behind. 22 specialists is what we need, no more jack-of-all-trades.


I take it you’d find no room for Clifton then? That’s no dig at you, it’s just we all see him as a jack of all trades, and a good one at that.  And you’re probably right, if Artell doesn’t want utility players, Harry may be gone. Just don’t go to Scunny, please!

Personally, if Harry re-signs I’ll be quite pleased, but if he goes to L1 with Hurst, fair play to him.
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Not if you speak to Crewe fans..
Yes, he got them promoted, with a team he didn't build, and yes, the club sold a lot of that squad when in lg1..
But, his team he built, the players he signed got them relegated.
So, is Artell a good manager of players that are found to suit him but not a good manager at finding those players?..Thompson, Hume, Tharme where identified by Joe Hutchinson and so was Conteh.


In DA's defence about his time at Crewe, is that all you said is true, however, it should be taken into consideration that it was his first time as a manager, and you learn on the job more than reading a book.
My argument about him at GTFC is that he wasn't known for coming in mid season and saving a sinking club. The two interim managers steadied the ship somewhat before he came, having said all the right things, changed a few personnel and the wheels came off as we know.
I am willing to go along with DA for 24 25 if only because another change will just set Fan against Fan and we have enough to worry about like the ST sales for 24 25 which will hamper DA's ability to field a better team.
After this Saturday to come, if I could buy a Software called Snopake which just obliterated season 2023 24 I would buy it. UTbM
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Recruitment for next season effectively begins now - now that we know what division we’re in.
Hopefully, the management roles for recruitment of affordable suitable players are in place - along with accountability for this being made known - for full transparency.


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Rumours of an Egyptian and someone from Maidenhead was the talk yesterday
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And hopefully , the new better recruits won’t have to play pre - season at Cleethorpes Town and Grimsby Borough to get injured - as usually happens each season - Groundhog Day - so frustrating


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Recruitment for next season effectively begins now - now that we know what division we’re in.
Hopefully, the management roles for recruitment of affordable suitable players are in place - along with accountability for this being made known - for full transparency.


About a month ago I think it was on the DN35 pod cast (might be wrong) DA said Joe pretty much does all the work but the final decision still sits with him as manager/1st team coach.


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