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After yesterday I could not stomach MOTD. I did read the match reports this morning though.
Arsenal players tracking back after 96 mins despite 5-0 up. Playing for the manager (and themselves).
Palace players said to be playing for Roy Hodgson because they like and respect him. Despite injuries to key players and not being good enough.
Salford unbeaten in 8 with a new manager. They were awful as well.
On the other hand West Ham players have not tried in the last 2 games. Despite being very successful last season in a cup competition. Like us.
Our players are consistently not delivering of their best. Even if limited in ability. This has to be mainly down to the manager. What ever the managerial option, the players are the same. We need a manager who can get better performances from these players. For the rest of the season. The interim duo again?
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February 18, 2024, 2:06pm |
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Artell must change what he wants, using his current squad's abilities. He should put in place a game plan using these player's strengths ( Yes I do realise that may not be much given the last run of results ) but they all have some abilities.
He has changed from saying we are too good to be relegated, but the only thing that has changed is how he wants them to play. He should go back to the way they played when he first came or just resign and let somebody else save us from the drop.
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February 18, 2024, 2:09pm |
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Ben and Shaun then. Know every player inside out. Artell winds people up the wrong way and is more a liability than an asset.
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February 18, 2024, 2:10pm |
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Our midfield is a joke it’s conference north at best no wonder our weak defence gets over run.
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February 18, 2024, 2:21pm |
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Ben and Shaun then. Know every player inside out. Artell winds people up the wrong way and is more a liability than an asset.
I agree until the end of season then sack them both with woods aswell. They are part of the problem the entire footballing side of the club is a shambles players and staff.
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February 18, 2024, 2:26pm |
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Get rid of every body they are proven long term losers in every department start afresh with a new team. I’m sick of hearing next season we will be better next season never comes it’s a bit to pally for me all friends patting each other on the back saying what a good job they are doing. It’s amazes club run very badly how many home games have we won in the last 3 seasons in the football league not many i bet.
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HertsGTFC |
February 18, 2024, 2:34pm |
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The starting 11 yesterday…
On loan - Cartwright, Smith, Andrews
Short term deal - Hume, no doubt his agent is already lobbying other clubs on his behalf.
Out of contract - Maher, Green, Eisa, Clifton, same applies their agents will already be active.
Make what you want of it but I suspect none of these will be hear next season as at the moment I doubt they’re enjoying anything about the Artell regime.
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Yoda |
February 18, 2024, 2:39pm |
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They will all go most probably won’t get a club maybe something local and get a job as-well playing part time. Maher couldn’t get a job de scaling kettles down Freeman Street
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February 18, 2024, 3:10pm |
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The starting 11 yesterday…
On loan - Cartwright, Smith, Andrews
Short term deal - Hume, no doubt his agent is already lobbying other clubs on his behalf.
Out of contract - Maher, Green, Eisa, Clifton, same applies their agents will already be active.
Make what you want of it but I suspect none of these will be hear next season as at the moment I doubt they’re enjoying anything about the Artell regime.
So that's about half the squad. It looks like a complete rebuid as we need a new keeper, back four and and engine room.
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CSLM |
February 18, 2024, 3:33pm |
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The starting 11 yesterday…
On loan - Cartwright, Smith, Andrews
Short term deal - Hume, no doubt his agent is already lobbying other clubs on his behalf.
Out of contract - Maher, Green, Eisa, Clifton, same applies their agents will already be active.
Make what you want of it but I suspect none of these will be hear next season as at the moment I doubt they’re enjoying anything about the Artell regime.
You probably won't be far off with that. At least out two best players will still be here.........well are contracted to be.
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February 18, 2024, 3:38pm |
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So that's about half the squad. It looks like a complete rebuid as we need a new keeper, back four and and engine room.
How motivated will these lads currently be DB if they know their future sits away from the club?
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February 18, 2024, 3:47pm |
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How motivated will these lads currently be DB if they know their future sits away from the club?
Which was the point I was making on another thread.
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Yoda |
February 18, 2024, 4:02pm |
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there futures will be a lot brighter as a league player to a non league player.
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February 18, 2024, 5:13pm |
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So that's about half the squad. It looks like a complete rebuid as we need a new keeper, back four and and engine room.
I think a complete rebuild was obvious after the dust settled and we realised that Hurst's summer recruitment was poor.
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February 18, 2024, 11:29pm |
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I agree until the end of season then sack them both with woods aswell. They are part of the problem the entire footballing side of the club is a shambles players and staff.
Woods .Really have you seen how well our youth teams are doing
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February 19, 2024, 4:28am |
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I thought the best we've done this season was under Shaun and hes been the best one regards press conferences etc aswell in my opnion.. 👀
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February 19, 2024, 6:51am |
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Woods .Really have you seen how well our youth teams are doing
His job is to find and develop players for the first team not supplying players for Grimsby boro and Clee town. I don’t think you understand his role
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February 19, 2024, 7:11am |
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I think we need to start playing 3 at the back, 2 wing backs, with Hunt and Thompson in midfield.
Rose Vernam and Arthur as the front three
This might stem the flow of goals…
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February 19, 2024, 7:31am |
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I think we need to start playing 3 at the back, 2 wing backs, with Hunt and Thompson in midfield.
Rose Vernam and Arthur as the front three
This might stem the flow of goals…
I would go 3 at the back, Glennon one wing back and Clifton on the right, with Thompson and another defensive midfielders and hunt further forward, vernam and rose up front as a pair. Might stop us conceding so many whilst we still have enough to get the odd goal.
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February 19, 2024, 7:55am |
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We could play nine at the back, 7 or 8 of them either don’t know how to defend or are actively refusing to do it effectively.
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February 19, 2024, 8:42am |
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5 - 4 - 1 or 5 - 3 - 1 - 1
No, not how many goals we concede in certain areas, but for me, It’s the only way I can see us actually being stable enough to get anything out of games and stop the tsunami at the back (I thought leaky defence was too kind!)
I know being defensive is a step backwards and not within the remit of what the owners want. But, ask the 7000 there yesterday if a draw would’ve been better than a 5-1 hiding. The question is if the players have the ability, nouse or scruples to actually get anything from the 90 minutes.
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February 19, 2024, 10:51pm |
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His job is to find and develop players for the first team not supplying players for Grimsby boro and Clee town. I don’t think you understand his role
I fully understand his role. Pollock ,Grist ,Burrell ,Braithwaite,Bramwell, Gardner ,Starbuck ,Khour, idehen ,killip, ,clifton,Wright,.To name a few.Top of their u18 league and went a good way in youth Cup , .The fact town sold them is not his fault [/quote]
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Woods does a great job and if not for tragically losing a player would be doing even better. Millwall got beat by Chelsea in Semi Final of FA Youth Cup and anybody who watches the youth team know they didn’t turn up and hadn’t played for almost 3 weeks due to the loss of Cam. They were 15 unbeaten up to that point and bounced back to beat Shrewsbury in the cup and are due to play Mansfield in the Semi Final. The youth team is around 50/50 split of 1st yrs U17 & 2nd years U18 so a young squad as many clubs operate a U17 & U18s and some have an U21s even at CAT 3. We don’t so what Woods & Lester have got out of the youth team is good when some games their playing against majority U18 players plus against 3 U19 pros which is allowed for league games, we only have one U19 at the club. So 50% of our youth team are most games playing a year older and 2 years older against 3 players. For some players this is great as progress quickly but for some it’s very difficult but this will only make them stronger next season. The youth coaches can also only mention certain players doing well whether the 1st team actually agree and blood them is another matter as both looking from different perspectives one seeing potential and with regularly training and being eased into 1st team squad have a chance but the 1st team look at can they afford to leave the player with 20+ league games off the bench for the youth player. With us struggling doesn’t help as they won’t take the chance as there jobs are on the line but hopefully we can get safe with a few games to go and they can see how some of the lads do in the last few games. I can’t really see what more Woods can do as limited and attracting the better players to join as scholars isn’t the easiest when the club isn’t doing great.
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