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IlkleyMariner
December 24, 2023, 6:13pm
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Folks
Harrogate manager Simon Weaver has had 14 years to get Harrogate to this position. His father owns the club.

David Artell has had about 4 weeks and is trying to change playing style with players he has inherited. Maybe he is trying to change too quickly, or maybe he is pushing players to find out who he really wants to keep. In some ways a defeat will help him make his mind up.

Yesterday was a wake up call.  I was immensely disappointed, but will be at Harrogate for the reverse fixture when I expect an away win….
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December 24, 2023, 7:00pm
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Folks
Harrogate manager Simon Weaver has had 14 years to get Harrogate to this position. His father owns the club.

David Artell has had about 4 weeks and is trying to change playing style with players he has inherited. Maybe he is trying to change too quickly, or maybe he is pushing players to find out who he really wants to keep. In some ways a defeat will help him make his mind up.

Yesterday was a wake up call.  I was immensely disappointed, but will be at Harrogate for the reverse fixture when I expect an away win….


Of course we need to be patient.

It’s simple enough for me. I want to watch a team that wants to win football matches as opposed to a team that’s desperate not to lose.
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December 24, 2023, 7:05pm
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Yes it was disappointing, Harrogate had our number and we were well beaten...

But..

My biggest plus out of yesterday was that D.A saw what we saw and said it in the post match interview.
That gives me great hope and keen to see the journey ahead.




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Absolutely gutted yesterday but it’s done, looking forward to Mansfield now. I think it’ll be a much better performance, here’s hoping! Happy Christmas to you all. UTM!
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We have to be patient. He can't get rid of all of the shite in one go-some, for whatever reason ,are on 3 year contracts.
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December 24, 2023, 8:24pm
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The black & white flag is still flying in Epworth!
Yes I was disappointed and the cat kept out of my way…..but sometimes an adverse result and performance helps the manager know more. I bet he had a good idea anyway!
UTM
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Rome wasn't built in a day, as the saying goes. DA needs time and 4 weeks is far too short to change things around.


You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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must be mad being a manager. last week everything was hunky-dori. this week - 2 bad performances n he's learnt as much as he has in the last 2 weeks; only this time it's all negative.
a week ago the squad needs tweaking, this morning we need a complete overhaul......
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Quoted from IlkleyMariner
Folks
Harrogate manager Simon Weaver has had 14 years to get Harrogate to this position. His father owns the club.

David Artell has had about 4 weeks and is trying to change playing style with players he has inherited. Maybe he is trying to change too quickly, or maybe he is pushing players to find out who he really wants to keep. In some ways a defeat will help him make his mind up.

Yesterday was a wake up call.  I was immensely disappointed, but will be at Harrogate for the reverse fixture when I expect an away win….


What the frig are you on about "get real" ?

This is a football forum, are we not allowed to voice our opinion when we play crap and are well beaten by a team most thought we would beat.
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My view remains the same that this squad needs surgery in January as Artell doesn’t quite have the players to play the way he wants consistently.

It should start with our backline, two new centre backs and a left back. Rodgers has improved in recent weeks but Maher just makes too many mistakes and has exposed just how badly we miss Andy Smith.


Up The Mariners!
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