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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne.....in-overreacting.htmlThis is an interesting article by the doctor who found the Omicron variant. Having read it I wonder if Boris is overreacting to cover up his latest bad publicity. You also have to wonder if we are being told the whole truth about Omicron or being drip-fed what the government wants us to think.
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Either way, I imagine we will be feeling the brunt of restrictions soon with games closed to crowds at BP.
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Time will tell. However, always bare in mind that the Daily Mail is owned by DMGT, who have interests in Newspapers, Land & Property, Insurance, Health & Energy sectors. Lockdowns & restrictions are almost certainly not in their business interests, so they are more likely to drip feed this kind of story/article.
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December 14, 2021, 8:07am |
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Yes thankfully it’s cold but we have idiots treating it like Armageddon.
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December 14, 2021, 8:14am |
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It’s an extremely well timed variant, hides yet more government blunders and has masked the votes provides further opportunity for them to push through more social controls.
Of course anyone that doesn’t panic is seen as some conspiracist but the over reaction is plain as day.
That statement the other night was another opportunity to guilt people in to having the booster this time, almost everyone has had the jab and yet numbers have continued to rise, now they’re pushing the booster…have big pharma not made enough money yet?
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December 14, 2021, 8:21am |
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More importantly it’s the votes on the vaccine passports tonight up to 80 Tory rebels will be voting against, but don’t worry Labour will be more than making up for it, yes the opposition will be backing the start of a state control surveillance society, once these are in there will be no going back. Nothing to do with stopping the spread we all know this right?
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December 14, 2021, 8:26pm |
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Well, Javid said today that they think we're currently having 200,000 infections per day. Doubling every 2 days apparently so that would be in the region of 800,000 a day by the weekend. The gamble that boosters will be enough to avert catastrophe is a massive one and the idea that Omicron is definitely less severe isn't backed up by a lot of the data available. South Africa has a much younger population, much higher past infection rate and much lower level of vaccination. Trying to compare with the UK is incredibly difficult with all these confounding factors.
Denmark, which is much closer in demographics and infection to the UK, seems to be having similar hospitalisation rates to Delta so, if it isn't considerably less virulent, we're already screwed.
The other signal in the data from South Africa is that hospitalisations of young children are increased compared to previous waves. That's a concern for me as I've got two kids who are way too young to be vaccinated.
I suspect they'll wait until after the by-election on Thursday and then bring in tougher restrictions. If they do, it will be pathetic politicking, putting lives at risk for political gain.
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December 14, 2021, 11:42pm |
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I don't disagree with Dix too much from that article. It's all well and good getting boosters into arms but they don't have much effect for the first 2 weeks so it's not going to 'Save Christmas' in any regard. It would be better to implement some restrictions (not necessarily a full lockdown) and make sure the elderly and most at risk are boosted first, but it is the easier route to shut down half of the NHS for a couple of weeks and try to boost everyone who wants it. Those missing their appointments are obviously seen as collateral damage.
It would make sense to start to vaccinate younger children (i.e. ages 5+ where there is now ample safety data thanks to the US rollout) over the holidays and sort out ventilation and air filtration in schools over the Christmas period. That would help reduce spread when the schools go back, whenever that may be.
At the moment, just hoping late December/January isn't going to be as bad for the NHS as it could well be. Ridiculous how fast Omicron transmits. It's not even 4 weeks since it was first spotted yet it's likely the dominant varint in many countries already. Too early to even be certain just how virulent it is in comparison to Delta.
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Well, Javid said today that they think we're currently having 200,000 infections per day. Doubling every 2 days apparently so that would be in the region of 800,000 a day by the weekend. The gamble that boosters will be enough to avert catastrophe is a massive one and the idea that Omicron is definitely less severe isn't backed up by a lot of the data available. South Africa has a much younger population, much higher past infection rate and much lower level of vaccination. Trying to compare with the UK is incredibly difficult with all these confounding factors.
Denmark, which is much closer in demographics and infection to the UK, seems to be having similar hospitalisation rates to Delta so, if it isn't considerably less virulent, we're already screwed.
The other signal in the data from South Africa is that hospitalisations of young children are increased compared to previous waves. That's a concern for me as I've got two kids who are way too young to be vaccinated.
I suspect they'll wait until after the by-election on Thursday and then bring in tougher restrictions. If they do, it will be pathetic politicking, putting lives at risk for political gain.
Funny you mention Denmark - https://www.ibtimes.com/omicro.....ple-who-says-3357259These brainwashed sharp objects queuing for hours and hours are not even considering the resources they are using up and taking away from genuine patients🤬
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