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On the McKeown point....
There's never a happy medium with him. He tends, especially last few years, to either be amazing or a disaster.
He was very good for us in the Conference before but since coming back into the league we've seen two 'keepers who have offered us a glimpse of what we could have, or perhaps the standard in this league.
Henderson (unrealistic) and then Eastwood (perhaps more realistic).
Just to throw this one in there. Ben Killip was just ok when he was here. He got his chance when McKeown had an injury and I thought he looked decent if not amazing. He dropped a couple of howlers which ultimately marked his card but his overall game was alright. But largely we needed and rightly wanted better, even as a back-up. Killip is now first choice 'keeper at Hartlepool who are top of the Conference.
Was Killip any better than McKeown at this level? Probably not. So it's maybe fair to argue that McKeown would still be very good at Conference level.
What I would say though is that I think overall he's gone backwards year on year since we've returned to the league. No doubting he's still got the ability to pull off the odd wonder wave, which he definitely has done a few since returning to the side. But he doesn't command his area well enough, he doesn't come off his line anywhere near quick enough for my liking and his distribution is poor. The role of a goalkeeper has changed quite dramatically in the time that McKeown has been here and be it himself or through a lack of coaching, he hasn't really adapted.
I wouldn't be overly disappointed if he was our first choice next season, but then I do think we could and probably should look for someone different. I've absolutely no idea on Eastwood's situation and likelihood of signing for us, but he's probably more of the standard we should aspire to.
Totally agree with your post...add the fact that Macca is up their with the biggest earners at the club since he signed his new deal and then the question of value for money comes into play. This said a lot of our current squad earn far more than they produce. UTM |
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Totally agree with your post...add the fact that Macca is up their with the biggest earners at the club since he signed his new deal and then the question of value for money comes into play. This said a lot of our current squad earn far more than they produce. UTM
I believe the wholesale price of peanuts has risen since with seasons recruitments! |
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A motivational inspirational manager and players with a real winning mentality with the facilities and ifrastructure behind them.
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One thing is for sure.
NEVER make your goalie captain of the team.
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see PH go after Abu Ogogo again. Not been playing at Bristol Rovers and out of contract in the summer. Wasn’t he captain of Shrewsbury under Hurst?
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The mans managed at every level from the northern counties east league right up to the championship. You dont manage that without knowing about a player or two 
He hasn't managed at Northern counties level for over 10 years and National League level for over 5 years. As for championship level, considering his record there best to gloss over that. As for the rest of his managerial career and knowledge of players that probably applies to the vast majority of current EFL managers and probably those out of work. |
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you know we are non league dont you....... jesus christ Hursty builds a squad of pros with team spirit, you wont find a player who has a bad word to say about him |
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you know we are non league dont you.......
jesus christ
Hursty builds a squad of pros with team spirit, you wont find a player who has a bad word to say about him
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you know we are non league dont you.......
jesus christ
Hursty builds a squad of pros with team spirit, you wont find a player who has a bad word to say about him
He may be a nice man but he is utterly uninspiring and tactically inept, he has long since been found out by just about every opposition he faces. He record since shrewsbury has been worse than useless. Team spirit, dont make me laugh, we witnessed what happened on the pitch with the headbutt. As for your Jesus Christ comment, yes I am well aware of what league we are in and where we are going, are our ambitions so low that we think tbis is acceptable, other arguably smaller clubs achieve much much more and have managers able to adapt and motivate. Mark my words sticking with Hurst will get us nowhere fast. |
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