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Really whats changed except more racial disharmony. What have tgey achieved except to get a few virtue signallin celebrities and footballers supporting BLM. The rest of us prefer to be anti racist by the way we live our lives always. Not just when its popular
Living my life as anti-racist by proudly booing an anti-racist protest. What’s changed? Very little, which perhaps demonstrates that the gesture isn’t quite leading to the dismantling of capitalism and break up of the family unit as predicted by the soothsayers on here and in The Sun or on Spiked.
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Freedom of speech/expression only protects you from the government. This is why we don't throw people in prison for disagreeing with the government or calling them all twits. Private companies have the right to deny service to anyone they want. You could try to appeal it without a leg to stand on but wouldn't waste your time. The only time throwing somebody out or refusing service tends to become a legal dispute is on grounds of discrimination.
It does not count as discrimination if they don't want you expressing your angry political views at a football match.
Not strictly correct if a private company denied someone service due to their ethnic origin they would be open to litigation.All terms and conditions and constitutions have to be Human Rights Act Compliant. Just because many firms are ignorant of this,and due to the fact there is very little case law in this area does not mean it is legal,applied law precedents evolve over time as authorities are set by courts.
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December 12, 2020, 12:57pm |
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So if you’re anti racist you’ll sit quietly through a peaceful anti-racism protest and moan about it away from the ground then? The team are making this season embarassing enough without a load of angry, middle-aged+ men turning up and booing something because it’s got an imaginary poltical party attached to it.
Thats my point i dont believe the BLM are anti racist so wouldnt sit quietly through it. How is the BLM an imaginary movement. But you do as you wish. As will I
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Norseman |
December 12, 2020, 1:00pm |
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Living my life as anti-racist by proudly booing an anti-racist protest.
What’s changed? Very little, which perhaps demonstrates that the gesture isn’t quite leading to the dismantling of capitalism and break up of the family unit as predicted by the soothsayers on here and in The Sun or on Spiked.
And it never will lead to those outcomes. Does not mean thats what they desire and those of us who dont have to stay silent. They display and promulgate their message. Those who disagree with their ideology have the right to do the same
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December 12, 2020, 1:49pm |
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If you are on private property the owner of that property can remove you for any reason it deems fit enough to do so.
Would you be entitled to a refund ?
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December 12, 2020, 2:03pm |
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Yes defintely. I would boo it as its a gesture started in the states in support of a political, racist, marxist movement which i am happy to stand against. End racism, kick it out, standing linking arms, banners, badges happy with all of them as i agree with the message not the current methods of highlighting it. So yes i will be booing
Be honest with yourself and admit if linking arms was the protest rather than taking a knee you would be on here condemning that, I am not a racist but...........I want to be totally against those willing to make a stand
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December 12, 2020, 2:08pm |
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I believe you have the right to boo if they want to boo if you want to it’s a free country for now anyway.
My argument is should you be thrown out the ground for it. If so what happens then when you boo the referee if he makes a bad decision later in the game should you be thrown out for that it’s a dangerous game making up rules as you go along.
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December 12, 2020, 2:10pm |
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Be honest with yourself and admit if linking arms was the protest rather than taking a knee you would be on here condemning that, I am not a racist but...........I want to be totally against those willing to make a stand
The kick it out campaign has been going for a long time, and everybioody gets behind it. This is quite different - whether the cause has been hijacked or not, BLM has morphed into a political party whose aims are not those of the mainstream - overthrow of capitalism and defund the police for example. BLM will always be divisive as is shown by chairman against fans, players against fans and fans against fans...and it is not doing any good at all for racial equality.
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December 12, 2020, 2:19pm |
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Be honest with yourself and admit if linking arms was the protest rather than taking a knee you would be on here condemning that, I am not a racist but...........I want to be totally against those willing to make a stand
You dont know me and what i would do. But let me make this absolutely clear. I have worked and associated with races and creeds all over tge world without 1 not even 1 accusation of racism Ive supported town for 56 years. I have never even in the dark old days used any racist language. I fully and whole heartedly supported the kick it out campaign without ever booing. I would fully support, linking arms, applause, wearing badges saying end racism, kick it out, not today not any day. What i will not do is support any initiative with BLM associations. You can believe me or not makes not a jot of difference to me. I know what i stand for and very comfortable with my objections to the BLM.
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You dont know me and what i would do. But let me make this absolutely clear. I have worked and associated with races and creeds all over tge world without 1 not even 1 accusation of racism Ive supported town for 56 years. I have never even in the dark old days used any racist language. I fully and whole heartedly supported the kick it out campaign without ever booing. I would fully support, linking arms, applause, wearing badges saying end racism, kick it out, not today not any day. What i will not do is support any initiative with BLM associations. You can believe me or not makes not a jot of difference to me. I know what i stand for and very comfortable with my objections to the BLM.
From elsewhere: There’s no rule against “disrespecting the knee”. If a bunch of aging football fans wants to boo and fulminate against a player-led anti-racist initiative, and convince themselves that by doing so they are keeping their country safe from Marxism, then they should be free to do so. And everyone else should be free to make up their own minds about what is really going on.
But the players are the ones who are in control, and these protests can continue as long as they wish them to.
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