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ginnywings
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Disappointing and frustrating that we build up the momentum to a big crowd, and then lose, which seems to be the way with Town, but that is my heart talking.

My head says we were beaten by a side that look as good as any i have seen here for a while, especially at he back, where they were quick, strong and very organised, keeping us mostly at arms length. Their right back was exceptional and looked a couple of divisions lower than his ability, but the whole back four of theirs were very good i thought.

In contrast, our back four looked like it was, makeshift, and we gave away a very soft goal. Macca made some more cracking stops to keep the score down, but for me, they were always just a shade better than us and deserved to win the game.

We had some good moments, and the effort was there, but ultimately, it was a game too far for a depleted squad. Think Mansfield will go up, so no great shame in losing to them. Thought their support was rather tame considering where they are in the league, and hopefully, we can progress in time to the level of their team.

I think Clifton looks better and better every time i see him and he had a great second half, but ultimately, we couldn't get behind them enough to cause too many problems for them.
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No shame in losing today, just lost to the better side. Thought their number 5 was very solid. 9 points from 12 is still an excellent Christmas/NY return. Hopefully we get some defenders (back) soon.


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Hope they go up so I don't have to hear that awful yellow chant for at least another year
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Forgot to mention the member end of a ref. The worst type of "look at me" official. Not blaming him for our defeat at all, but he was terrible. Did everything in slow motion and with exaggerated posturing, but got loads wrong as well.
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Only a goal in it and the stats are even considering we had no centre backs we performed well against top side of the league


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We had games two tough games before-Port Vale (a) and Exeter (a) and then being scheduled  to play  lunch time was a very big ask. Very little recovery time and a lot of travelling as well. A physio has told me that even an extra 12 hours can make a difference to recovery for these lads. The Christmas programme is a killer.
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Had to end sometime but no less disappointing.

Given the travelling of late (still think it’s scandalous our away fixtures this festive period) and the mounting injuries I’m still feeling very positive, certainly can’t fault the effort.

Obviously Hendrie and RHJ aren’t CB’s but I thought they did well filling in and didn’t let us down. Impressed we tried to play our way back into the game.

One thing I would say about Embleton, other than we need to secure him for the season and he’s a very good player, is that I wish (just sometimes) he’d release the ball a touch quicker either to shoot or pass.  He’ll learn that with time, still young.

Macca made his obligatory top class save as well and the red the less that’s said the better....

Hopefully we can get a few back and go again after Palace.


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Quoted from hampshiremariner
We had games two tough games before-Port Vale (a) and Exeter (a) and then being scheduled  to play  lunch time was a very big ask. Very little recovery time and a lot of travelling as well. A physio has told me that even an extra 12 hours can make a difference to recovery for these lads. The Christmas programme is a killer.


Spot on Mansfield had 2 home games over Christmas then a short trip to us,

Not really fair on us.


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Bit harsh on the lads imo Ginny.

Bishop could well have seen red before he scored which was well worked with the modern day ‘blocking off’. Considering our make shift defence thought we coped pretty well, RHJ in particular sticking to his task admirably.
Central midfield all did well. Embleton as ever looking our best bet to create or score especially in the first 10 mins of 2nd half, Clifton is so full of energy and Hess vastly underestimated by many.
Cardwell and Pringle offered little and Wes was well marshalled but his touch wasn’t as sharp as usual.

Mansfield are a side which many would see as typical league 2. Big big side.They have underperformed considering the huge investment by their owner but I expect them to take one of the automatic places come season end
Most on here say if the team gives their all they are happy. On that basis I can’t be too critical because effort and desire was certainly evident

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If Thomas had managed to put that early chance away who knows what could have happened but no shame in losing to them.

Though the ref gave us very little but maybe I am too biased towards Town !!!

Agree with Ginny that Clifton seems to get better with every game.


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Obviously disappointed to lose and can't fault anyones effort again this today, but Mansfield winning was a fair result, we never really looked a threat going forward because of the state we were in at the back. A mix of individual errors and just not getting the rub of the green kept killing our attacking efforts, Hall-Johnson, Hendrie, Fox and M Rose should be commended for their efforts in defence in the first half and Wooly in the second.


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Am i being harsh? Thought we lost to a better side myself, but there was no lack of effort from us. The difference was probably down to the 2 defences. They were well drilled and used to playing as a unit and we weren't.

Thought we acquitted ourselves well, but they kept us mostly at bay, and are obviously a side that have had a good chunk of money spent on it and are further along in their development than we are. We are a young side and will get better in time. No shame losing today, all things considered, and i'm mostly optimistic, despite the loss.
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Terrible ref. A lot of guesswork by him and the assistants and they got most of those 50/50 decisions wrong. Timewasting by Mansfield is easily resolved with early yellows but we rarely see that from any ref anyway.

Mansfield were very good and effective at what they did. We were never going to lose by more than a goal today even with a patched together defence (it was funny how Fox who was the only player playing in his preferred position ended up going off after a poor first half!). They did counter well and were all over us in midfield when once they’d managed to nullify Embleton who had a bit of freedom early in the second half. Singing the name of their owner was a bit cringey moment for me though - although probably exactly why he decided to buy a football club in the first place.

Positives for us: Vernam isn’t long term injured. Hopefully we can get Famewo or Collins in some sort of fitness for the weekend. Palace probably won’t let us get away lightly like Mansfield did today. 9 from 12 is an excellent festive period get some bodies in for cover and extend Embleton’s loan and we’ll be fine but I’d only give us a 1% chance of making the play-offs.
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Mansfield are the finished article if you want to look at the attributes of a League Two promotion winning side. By keeping in the game for the full ninety minutes and giving us a chance of nicking something, I thought our very makeshift team has to be given a lot of credit. Not going to pick the bones out of this one and defintely not going to over-analyse the Palace game on Saturday. Hopefully we can put a near full strength side out a week on Saturday to re-ignite our impressive run of results in the league..
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The players are knackered, and the midfield 3 have been incredible.

Hess did the defensive work superbly today, and Clifton loves to drive forward, local lad or not, he's a good player, and Embleton has ridiculously quick feet, and is a better version of Nolan

I would like to see them 3 play with Welsh behind them against palace and hope to keep them out for as long as possible and aim for Thomas on the counter
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Not much in it their goal was a well taken powerful diving header but he never had any challenge to it in the box and timed his run to perfection.

Pluses for us Clifton is really showing what good player he is. Embelton is always looking to make room for a shot and when he does he always tests the keeper who today made two good saves to deny him. I thought our defence did ok against a good attack and Macca made some smart saves. Thomas seemed a bit too harassed and unfortunately, Akheem never got much service and never got a chance to run at them.

On the whole, their defence looked stronger and well drilled with a couple of stand out players especially good at driving forward.

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A bridge too far.....a hectic Xmas schedule....injuries...suspensions...and playing a side that hasnt lost away and has only lost once all season.

Players huffed and puffed but something just not clicking today....players slipping, passes either underhit or mistimed....Embleton, Pringle and Thomas below par for me...Embleton trying to do too much on the ball and constantly checking back and losing any momentum with the ball.

Up until their goal i thought Mansfield were nothing special just hitting long diagonals which we were picking off , we switched off for one moment let them in but Macca's save only delayed the agony as they scored from the resulting corner.  

Valiant effort but just not enough quality where it mattered and very few balls into the box from wide today.  

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Was always gonna be hard with that defence, they coped well and there wasn’t much in the game considering. They’re just slightly better at this moment in time.
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An enjoyable competitive game considering our defence shortfalls/lack of numbers
Great effort from all the players, there is defo a team spirit about the whole squad
Ref was disappointing to say the least
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The loss today was expected a draw would of been great, I didn't see much difference today from us and Mansfield which is great from where we start of the season.

Where making strides and can only see improvements in the coming months.

I think the players have been excellent all Christmas, and I hope Whitmore learns from last game because we needed him today.
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Terrible ref. A lot of guesswork by him and the assistants and they got most of those 50/50 decisions wrong. Timewasting by Mansfield is easily resolved with early yellows but we rarely see that from any ref anyway.

Mansfield were very good and effective at what they did. We were never going to lose by more than a goal today even with a patched together defence (it was funny how Fox who was the only player playing in his preferred position ended up going off after a poor first half!). They did counter well and were all over us in midfield when once they’d managed to nullify Embleton who had a bit of freedom early in the second half. Singing the name of their owner was a bit cringey moment for me though - although probably exactly why he decided to buy a football club in the first place.

Positives for us: Vernam isn’t long term injured. Hopefully we can get Famewo or Collins in some sort of fitness for the weekend. Palace probably won’t let us get away lightly like Mansfield did today. 9 from 12 is an excellent festive period get some bodies in for cover and extend Embleton’s loan and we’ll be fine but I’d only give us a 1% chance of making the play-offs.



Is this a positive? Morons in charge of the 'red cross' - plus - is a 99 % chance of not making the play offs a positive??? Giraffes alert!


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Just reading Mansfield’s managers post match and said that maccs was MotM there place and here today,

Also they stayed over last night even for couple of hours trip even after 2 home games.

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A narrow 1-0 defeat, but we're still not far off where we want to be, and looking at the points haul from the last few games helps numb a frustrating but close result. Transfer window is here just in time, a stronger squad will see minimum mid-table at season end which itself is brilliant, anything more a very welcome bonus.


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Make shift back 4 did good considering. I really like our central midfield, proper footballers. Although I think we could do with a 'big unit' in their at times. Felt going forward we did quite well but didn't give Thomas enough support really to threaten massively. I like the way we tried to play most the time, especially the central midfielders. Feel like a times hitting the channel 9/10 is a bit predictable and we should try to look a bit more inside for the central midfielders to try drive forward. UTM
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We got nine points from a demanding twelve. Had we lost at Exeter, as everyone expected us to, and beaten Mansfield today the cup would have been rather more than half full. That's how far we've come. Well done Town.


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Missed today’s game but from afar, that clearly shows how hard the squad are working. A complete back 4 playing out of position in the second half drawing the half with one of the best teams at our level is pretty commendable.

Above all else, let’s hope that MJ is at least allowed to replace those that have gone if not more. We’re only 9 points off Bury in 4th - there’s an awful lot to play for.
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Just checking back on our recent form and the last ten games show

W 6 D 1 L 3

One of those we lost to a penalty at the death ( Cheltenham ) and the other two defeats.....both were against Mansfield

To me they are a workmanlike side; not particularly skillful but very effective in the what they do and the way they play

You can see why they are on a good run and you can see why they draw a lot

I'm not downbeat about our defeat today but it would have been great if we had been given the "penalty" when Vernam went down.

What the referee saw there only he knows but from where I was in the Pontoon it certainly looked a good shout.

Why would Vernam go to ground when he was in control of the ball having gone past his man

Mansfield might have thought that would have been rough justice and that they deserved the win. Arguably they did but I think the ref made a wrong call where Mitch Rose Pen could have probably have added to his tally

Onwards and upwards...no need to dwell on today, Palace on Saturday is a free hit, so we just need to get back on track against Macc in the league

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Make shift back 4 did good considering. I really like our central midfield, proper footballers. Although I think we could do with a 'big unit' in their at times. Felt going forward we did quite well but didn't give Thomas enough support really to threaten massively. I like the way we tried to play most the time, especially the central midfielders. Feel like a times hitting the channel 9/10 is a bit predictable and we should try to look a bit more inside for the central midfielders to try drive forward. UTM


We certainly have a lot more energy in midfield now with Hess and Harry in there

It's early days of course but the more they play together and develop an understanding of each other's play, then who's to say we might not have another Cockerill & Cunnington partnership developing

Maybe that's me just dreaming but partnerships take time and these two lads have plenty of that on their side, being only 24 & 20
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I thought Hess was excellent today and, as someone else said, is vastly underrated by many.


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What I like about our mid field at the moment is that all of them are happy to take responsibility and always want the ball whilst being constantly on the move.

Today as someone posted above our “work in progress” side came up against a finished article that has took 5 years plus to build at relatively high expense.

Today what I liked was that after going behind the players worked hard to play themselves back into the game and if we’d have had just a little bit more composure as well as the bounce if the ball and a ref that was capable of the task we might have just got the point the effort & application deserved.


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No shame losing to them even with a full strength squad and a less hectic schedule. Only Exeter have beat them in the league and they were a hell of a team. Gave Mansfield much more of a game than we did at their place so must be a step in the right direction.
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What also impresses me now is that now, as opposed to earlier in the season, if we go behind or concede we are able to stop 1 becoming 2/3 and steady the game before trying to get back into it.


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I must be one of the few that feels we were robbed a share of the points. The players grafted hard today and it was a clear penalty. We lost to a slightly better side which considering were we where at the start of the season isn't cause for concern.

We do need a couple of players bringing in that have more quality as I don't see the play off's being out of our reach, and definitely some building for next season.


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I must be one of the few that feels we were robbed a share of the points. The players grafted hard today and it was a clear penalty. We lost to a slightly better side which considering were we where at the start of the season isn't cause for concern.

We do need a couple of players bringing in that have more quality as I don't see the play off's being out of our reach, and definitely some building for next season.


Looked a penalty from the Pontoon end of the lower but Mansfield looked the better side to me.I`m not to downhearted though 0-1 with a makeshift back four against a good side suggests we will win a lot more than we lose from now.UTM
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Quoted from Marinerz93
I must be one of the few that feels we were robbed a share of the points. The players grafted hard today and it was a clear penalty. We lost to a slightly better side which considering were we where at the start of the season isn't cause for concern.

We do need a couple of players bringing in that have more quality as I don't see the play off's being out of our reach, and definitely some building for next season.


Definite penalty. That 'ref' wasn't going to give us anything. The clear push on Wes Thomas in the first half being a prime example of his ineptitude. We just needed a break yesterday, but when you are playing the ref too, then it isn't going to happen.










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Wasn't a nailed on penalty for me. Was their contact? Yes, Enough for a penalty? Open to interpretation IMO.

Like most others not downhearted by the defeat- we have gained a hell of a lot more points in the last couple of months than most of us expected.
Tough run of games coming up- hope we can win one or two which will set us up nicely
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Looked a dive from the upper findus. Similar to the Exeter one though there seemed to be some very brief contact.


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Looked a dive from the upper findus. Similar to the Exeter one though there seemed to be some very brief contact.


This. Could easily have been given but at the same time not have been. I think Vernham was looking for contact, only seen it once live through ifollow and from that viewing felt it would have been very soft, I didn't shout at the screen like I did when Thomas got dragged to the floor.
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Naturally disappointed with the defeat but I think, as most have already pointed out, the circumstances.

Our lads will be knackered just from the travelling they've had to do over the Xmas period, shocking organisation from the Football League.  As much as I hated the Conference and how they just seemed to run it as an old boys club, they at least made sure the holiday fixtures were relatively local.  No two ways about it, we've had a crap roll of the dice here.  If the Conference, which appears to be run from a shed at the bottom of someones garden can sort this, how can the Football League not, with there far superior resources?  Perhaps Mr Harvey would be better served looking at this rather than trying to snuggle up to the Premier League.

The sheer number of injuries, especially at the back, meant this was always going to be a hard one.  Got to be honest, I think Jolley made it harder by not having Pollock in.  I know he's a young lad but he's a centre-back by trade and it's his position.  RHJ and Hendrie did absolutely fine in the circumstances but they're not naturals. Equally so Mitch Rose is not a right-back.  Having a defence that has 3 of the 4 playing out of position is not ideal, far from it.  Added to that in front of Rose it was either Pringle or Cardwell, whichever combination you use someone is either out of position or on their wrong foot.  That all said, it's a case of damned if you - damned if you don't.  Be a very big game for Pollock to come in and make his full debut in, but then again he seemed to do ok against one of the best strikers in the league a few days before.  

I thought Hessenthaler and Clifton were superb all game.  Clifton especially is just getting better and better with each game.  It's not just about his energy now, he's developing the confidence to actually run games.  Quite a few occasions where he showed some great skill and composure to switch the play.  We've potentially got a very special player on our hands here.

The front four, if you like, never really got into it enough for my liking.  Embelton had more of a go in the second half but Mansfield were more than happy to double, treble up on him.  Pringle had one of those games which prove why he's at this level, Cardwell looked lost other than a few decent flick-ons and I think that was the quietest game I've seen from Wes Thomas so far.  

In no way concerned by one defeat when we were really up against it.  Extra week to get injured players back for the next league game and maybe even a few more quality additions.  We definitely need to be looking above us and not below, I can't see any reason why we won't be pushing for the top 7 slots.

Mansfield are a good side, they'll definitely be around the top 3 come the end of the season.  No doubt about that.  But they really don't need the dark arts stuff.  It's pathetic.  How Bishop didn't walk early on I don't know, the referee saw it and even spoke to him without issuing a card.  That absolutely set the tone for the game and Mansfield walked all over the ref after that.  Actually surprised we didn't get a man sent off.  Melis' attempt at getting Rose sent off when no contact was made was shameful, he should be embarrassed by himself.   When we played Mansfield in the FA Youth Cup a few months back it was the same story, gamesmanship from 17-year-olds.  I've nothing against Mansfield as a place or the club itself, but the current set-up and their mentality they've got is something I dislike - I would even dislike it if it's something we had here.
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