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September 30, 2018, 5:32pm

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Good to hear from the board spokesman - can you tell me why a director told a friend of mine that John Askey was offered the job?


Oh, I see. Somebody else was offered the job before most people on here ever knew who Michael Jolley was. And that is your answer to how Fenty is affecting things on the pitch. Sack the board!
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September 30, 2018, 5:35pm
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Oh, I see. Somebody else was offered the job before most people on here ever knew who Michael Jolley was. And that is your answer to how Fenty is affecting things on the pitch. Sack the board!


I've also spoken to Paul Hurst since he left, strange how we've now got two fitness coaches when he wasn't allowed one.
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September 30, 2018, 5:56pm

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I'd say Slade and Buckley were old heads as well as nostalgic appointments. Both had many years experience at this level and above.



1 - It isn't working very well for Crewe.
2 - I think we did have a plan. A young up and coming manager that values young players and gives them opportunities that we can hopefully develop and build on or sell for a profit. This is actually very similar to the "Crewe model".
The club have clearly bought into MJ's approach given the number of 2+ year contracts that have been handed out.

As you are in the know, how does our budget compare to other clubs, ie are we in the top quarter or as claimed in other threads bottom quarter.

What decisions is Fenty making that are actually affecting things on the pitch? The club set a budget and the manager chooses how to spend it. The board don't interfere with player selection or recruitment, whenever that happens, the manager is always quick to put it in the press to take blame away from himself and there hasn't been any manager that has ever suggested this. We don't make much money or pay off director loans each year, so the budget can't be that bad. They hired the manager that 1, everybody wanted and 2, kept us in the league last season.



As you are in the know, how does our budget compare to other clubs, ie are we in the top quarter or as claimed in other threads bottom quarter.

No manager lets an employee set about their work without the right tools or equipment, Fenty has sat on his hands when we've all known since the start of the season we need wingers with pace and a striker. Were is Fenty's input to the manager, otherwise Jolley is just set up to fail.


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September 30, 2018, 6:02pm
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Good to hear from the board spokesman - can you tell me why a director told a friend of mine that John Askey was offered the job?


Why when someone presents (and quite well IMO) an alternative point of view do you and others have to resort to the stance that the poster must be close to the board/Fenty's relative/an actual board member? It stifles debate.
As for your point about John Askey I fail to see what you are getting at. It's clear to me that the poster meant the fans by "everyone" and whilst that might be a bit of an exaggeration it's not that far from the reaction on here is it? It's hardly news that someone turns down a job ....


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Why when someone presents (and quite well IMO) an alternative point of view do you and others have to resort to the stance that the poster must be close to the board/Fenty's relative/an actual board member? It stifles debate.
As for your point about John Askey I fail to see what you are getting at. It's clear to me that the poster meant the fans by "everyone" and whilst that might be a bit of an exaggeration it's not that far from the reaction on here is it? It's hardly news that someone turns down a job ....


There is a quote on Twitter that last March Gary Holt says he was offered the Town job but a day later it all went quiet before Jolley was appointed. Just ‘seems’ a lack of professionalism that will get around and lesson our chances of getting a man moving forward.

Back to the original question about how Fenty and the board cannot effect things on the pitch I tend to disagree. They set, or at least should set, the vibe, the ethos, the dna of the club. A positive, vibrant leadership which soaks every pore of the club can and needs to get to the playing side too. Of course Fenty cannot pass, head or shoot on a Saturday but he is responsible as he is the head of the business. All these years of under achieving would mean he would have been long gone in any other business.
If Jolley goes then the next incumbent will have the same depressing environment to work within.
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If Jolley goes then the next incumbent will have the same depressing environment to work within.


Almost certainly but hopefully the next man will have some experience and therefore some idea what he's supposed to be doing and will be able to work within it



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Why when someone presents (and quite well IMO) an alternative point of view do you and others have to resort to the stance that the poster must be close to the board/Fenty's relative/an actual board member? It stifles debate.
As for your point about John Askey I fail to see what you are getting at. It's clear to me that the poster meant the fans by "everyone" and whilst that might be a bit of an exaggeration it's not that far from the reaction on here is it? It's hardly news that someone turns down a job ....


Err.....because they are!
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Almost certainly but hopefully the next man will have some experience and therefore some idea what he's supposed to be doing and will be able to work within it



Like a Russel Slade?
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Like a Russel Slade?


That's the boy! The man Jolley is modelling himself on



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Like a Russel Slade?


I never want that man within.an airplane flight of this club ever again....
Tell you who'd I've a sniff at, Russ Wilcox, maybe he did flop at york but certainly took scunny to another level...
Whoever we bring in, this job is a poisoned chalice..
In any job you need good support from your managers, taking it that the board are the clubs manager there's less support in a snakes spine!!...yes, I know,they dont have one!!
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