Trouble in Cleethorpes

Quoted from bluerose13x

I don't really care if 2 people, or 2 groups of people want to fight/brawl/smash everything up etc. In fact if that's their thing I'd say go for it to the lads, but at the very least I'd want from these people is do it well out the way out of sight away from the average Joe and kids enjoying a day out.

Quoted from Grim74

It's  been mentioned every time we have a large away following there is trouble, and the sole reason for this is our current police liaison officer Doddsy.

The thing is the lads these days make it all to easy for the so called intelligence officers, when it comes locating the RISK element and yesterday was no exception. Doddsy would of known exactly where both sets of these RISK supporters where and it was clearly obvious what was to follow.

The difference between Dodds and his predecessor Alan Rutter was simple,Rutter was all about preventative measures stopping the mobs in there tracks before they came into contact, I would say he had a lot of success with this method and would lead to potential rucks being diluted down to nothing more than bit of cat and mouse between old bill and the frustrated risk element.

Where as this Dodds is only interested in football related arrest figures, and this is his method... Locate rival RISK elements, get the cameras at the ready, wait for the action and roll, survey video footage over the coming months, dawn raids Aprox 6mths later for identified hooligans, massive arrest figures on the football arrest table, job done and Dodds head grows even bigger.

So as you can see two different methods of policing with alternative results one prevents disorder, and innocent members of the public getting caught up in the violence but with minimal arrests, the other does clearly not give a excrement about the family's day out in Cleethorpes enjoying their hols but will eventUally get some arrests in all be it the home fans only.

I say it's time we called for Dodds head his sole responsibility must still be to protect the public, he may of got away with this method in the past but yesterday it failed him and the public miserably with his main objection, time for a different role Mr Dodds traffic warden would be right up your street, your time is up good bye good riddance.

Quoted from 1739

Doddsy hasn't been at Town games since March time. Apparently the liaison officer duty now is shared amongst officers instead of just one person. He is useless anyway. Always keen on taking things further  for minor offences at small games but when it comes to the big games he always seems to mess it up. Don't know if it was his decision last year at Lincoln but whoever thought it was going to be okay to let town fans walk around Lincoln high street without any type of supervision should have been sacked on the spot. They soon realised they had to change their approach when it kicked off within seconds from leaving the train station car park.

Quoted from Grim74

It's  been mentioned every time we have a large away following there is trouble, and the sole reason for this is our current police liaison officer Doddsy.

The thing is the lads these days make it all to easy for the so called intelligence officers, when it comes locating the RISK element and yesterday was no exception. Doddsy would of known exactly where both sets of these RISK supporters where and it was clearly obvious what was to follow.

The difference between Dodds and his predecessor Alan Rutter was simple,Rutter was all about preventative measures stopping the mobs in there tracks before they came into contact, I would say he had a lot of success with this method and would lead to potential rucks being diluted down to nothing more than bit of cat and mouse between old bill and the frustrated risk element.

Where as this Dodds is only interested in football related arrest figures, and this is his method... Locate rival RISK elements, get the cameras at the ready, wait for the action and roll, survey video footage over the coming months, dawn raids Aprox 6mths later for identified hooligans, massive arrest figures on the football arrest table, job done and Dodds head grows even bigger.

So as you can see two different methods of policing with alternative results one prevents disorder, and innocent members of the public getting caught up in the violence but with minimal arrests, the other does clearly not give a excrement about the family's day out in Cleethorpes enjoying their hols but will eventUally get some arrests in all be it the home fans only.

I say it's time we called for Dodds head his sole responsibility must still be to protect the public, he may of got away with this method in the past but yesterday it failed him and the public miserably with his main objection, time for a different role Mr Dodds traffic warden would be right up your street, your time is up good bye good riddance.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

If only darleys was still open to put all the away in eh!

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Looking at it the other way, why should innocent people (which most of the 2000 Blairds would have been) be corralled into one urine awful pub. Policing needs to go beyond corralling and kettling, and treating all football fans or working class people as criminals.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

Sounds to me like you're trying to excuse the idiots and put the blame on the police. If this Dodds blokes methods lead to getting some convictions then great. These idiots are usually the same people who will regularly cause trouble on any normal weekend night around the pubs in town, so nicking them is ultimately a better result long term for every decent person.