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Since the turn of the century the following clubs have gone into administration and either remained at the same playing level or gone onto 'better' themselves since;
Hull QPR Bradford Barnsley Leicester Port Vale York Derby Ipswich Bradford (again) Cambridge Rotherham Crawley Leeds Luton Bournemouth Rotherham Halifax Southampton Chester Crystal Palace Port Vale (again) Coventry.
Eight of which are either in or have been in the Premiership since going into administration.
Like it or not the footballing system screwed us over, we chose to be honourable and hang onto the martyrdom that hung round our neck as we've plummeted through the leagues and into the Conference. We had the same option of going into administration like those clubs and writing off our debts. We opted not to. None of those clubs broke the law, they operated within a very loose piece of legislation that was probably written on the back of a packet of cigarettes. More fool us for being honourable.
I hate the way the aforementioned clubs have written off their debts for a penny in the pound, forced local companies to go under whilst signing players on stupid contracts again and to top it all off we've been forced to watch from afar comfortable in the knowledge we've paid our debts but have had to sell our silver at every opportunity.
Fact of the matter is that the current Leicester regime had intercourse all to do with their previous reckless spending, just like the current regime at Chester had nothing to do with the absolute mess created by their previous owner Stephen Vaughan. Do we begrudge Chester their rebirth and relative success because they were run by a crook of a chairman previously? Of course we don't.
As much as the old Leicester and old Portsmouth's of the world screwed us over with their shady dealings, the Premier League has shafted over clubs at this level and even above a hundred times over. If Leicester winning the league and throwing a big middle finger to the establishment and their ability to market the 'EPL' is what it takes, then bring it on!
Leicester have at least made the league interesting to watch this year. As for Vardy, yeah he's an obnoxious twit and if you saw him in the street you would love to give him a slap. But to see him ruffle the feathers of the pampered Premier League posers is a joy. The way he celebrated against Town? Maybe Rob Scott should have kept his gob shut, not for the first time either. Had Mickey Mellon slated Hearn before that game and Hearn had scored the winner before celebrating in front of him, the vast majority of us would have grinned from ear to ear. Vardy is incredible at the minute and a beacon of hope that the top players don't have to come exclusively from the Premier League Academy systems.
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Since the turn of the century the following clubs have gone into administration and either remained at the same playing level or gone onto 'better' themselves since;
Hull QPR Bradford Barnsley Leicester Port Vale York Derby Ipswich Bradford (again) Cambridge Rotherham Crawley Leeds Luton Bournemouth Rotherham Halifax Southampton Chester Crystal Palace Port Vale (again) Coventry.
Eight of which are either in or have been in the Premiership since going into administration.
Like it or not the footballing system screwed us over, we chose to be honourable and hang onto the martyrdom that hung round our neck as we've plummeted through the leagues and into the Conference. We had the same option of going into administration like those clubs and writing off our debts. We opted not to. None of those clubs broke the law, they operated within a very loose piece of legislation that was probably written on the back of a packet of cigarettes. More fool us for being honourable.
I hate the way the aforementioned clubs have written off their debts for a penny in the pound, forced local companies to go under whilst signing players on stupid contracts again and to top it all off we've been forced to watch from afar comfortable in the knowledge we've paid our debts but have had to sell our silver at every opportunity.
Fact of the matter is that the current Leicester regime had intercourse all to do with their previous reckless spending, just like the current regime at Chester had nothing to do with the absolute mess created by their previous owner Stephen Vaughan. Do we begrudge Chester their rebirth and relative success because they were run by a crook of a chairman previously? Of course we don't.
As much as the old Leicester and old Portsmouth's of the world screwed us over with their shady dealings, the Premier League has shafted over clubs at this level and even above a hundred times over. If Leicester winning the league and throwing a big middle finger to the establishment and their ability to market the 'EPL' is what it takes, then bring it on!
Leicester have at least made the league interesting to watch this year. As for Vardy, yeah he's an obnoxious twit and if you saw him in the street you would love to give him a slap. But to see him ruffle the feathers of the pampered Premier League posers is a joy. The way he celebrated against Town? Maybe Rob Scott should have kept his gob shut, not for the first time either. Had Mickey Mellon slated Hearn before that game and Hearn had scored the winner before celebrating in front of him, the vast majority of us would have grinned from ear to ear. Vardy is incredible at the minute and a beacon of hope that the top players don't have to come exclusively from the Premier League Academy systems.
Spot on, great post
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Since the turn of the century the following clubs have gone into administration and either remained at the same playing level or gone onto 'better' themselves since;
Hull QPR Bradford Barnsley Leicester Port Vale York Derby Ipswich Bradford (again) Cambridge Rotherham Crawley Leeds Luton Bournemouth Rotherham Halifax Southampton Chester Crystal Palace Port Vale (again) Coventry.
Eight of which are either in or have been in the Premiership since going into administration.
Like it or not the footballing system screwed us over, we chose to be honourable and hang onto the martyrdom that hung round our neck as we've plummeted through the leagues and into the Conference. We had the same option of going into administration like those clubs and writing off our debts. We opted not to. None of those clubs broke the law, they operated within a very loose piece of legislation that was probably written on the back of a packet of cigarettes. More fool us for being honourable.
I hate the way the aforementioned clubs have written off their debts for a penny in the pound, forced local companies to go under whilst signing players on stupid contracts again and to top it all off we've been forced to watch from afar comfortable in the knowledge we've paid our debts but have had to sell our silver at every opportunity.
Fact of the matter is that the current Leicester regime had intercourse all to do with their previous reckless spending, just like the current regime at Chester had nothing to do with the absolute mess created by their previous owner Stephen Vaughan. Do we begrudge Chester their rebirth and relative success because they were run by a crook of a chairman previously? Of course we don't.
As much as the old Leicester and old Portsmouth's of the world screwed us over with their shady dealings, the Premier League has shafted over clubs at this level and even above a hundred times over. If Leicester winning the league and throwing a big middle finger to the establishment and their ability to market the 'EPL' is what it takes, then bring it on!
Leicester have at least made the league interesting to watch this year. As for Vardy, yeah he's an obnoxious twit and if you saw him in the street you would love to give him a slap. But to see him ruffle the feathers of the pampered Premier League posers is a joy. The way he celebrated against Town? Maybe Rob Scott should have kept his gob shut, not for the first time either. Had Mickey Mellon slated Hearn before that game and Hearn had scored the winner before celebrating in front of him, the vast majority of us would have grinned from ear to ear. Vardy is incredible at the minute and a beacon of hope that the top players don't have to come exclusively from the Premier League Academy systems.
A great post and certainly gives Leicester's rebirth a new spin, however a large part of me still bears a grudge at how easily a lot of those clubs opted for admin and then all of a sudden someone came into save them. The ones that grip the most are serial offenders like Rovrum.
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A great post and certainly gives Leicester's rebirth a new spin, however a large part of me still bears a grudge at how easily a lot of those clubs opted for admin and then all of a sudden someone came into save them. The ones that grip the most are serial offenders like Rovrum.
But the point is in your statement " then all of a sudden someone came in to save them". The majority of these clubs were saleable in as much as their location, fan base or future prospects made them so. It has been mentioned that we should have gone into administration and everything would have been rosy! This course of action is a huge gamble and is dependant on somebody coming in with the best interests of the club at heart - not always that simple.
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But, IF we had gone into admin, at the time, would we have fallen as far as we have? Or would we have dropped and rebuilt?
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But the point is in your statement " then all of a sudden someone came in to save them". The majority of these clubs were saleable in as much as their location, fan base or future prospects made them so. It has been mentioned that we should have gone into administration and everything would have been rosy! This course of action is a huge gamble and is dependant on somebody coming in with the best interests of the club at heart - not always that simple.
Point is they could have been saved before admin but held out, it's not only the tax payers who lost out but also local businesses, that's what really grips me. Do you really believe the likes of Rovrum and York were saleable, had sufficient fan base more than what Town could have had? The whole set up around football clubs and admin stinks, and it cost us points whilst some of those clubs were operating well beyond admin.
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Remember it well but we made a massive mistake as Judge Rinder points out always,always get stuff in writing. That "gentleman's agreement" about the parachute payment was never going to happen. There is no honour in football most chairman are hard faced business men that did not become millionaire by being Mr Nice Guys. Pompey stuck two fingers up to us just like Lecester,Bournmouth et-al have done through writing debt off through the admin route. Feck um All UTM.
Die hard Mariner that was one hell of a post and summed things up exactly how it happened well said.
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Since the turn of the century the following clubs have gone into administration and either remained at the same playing level or gone onto 'better' themselves since;
Hull QPR Bradford Barnsley Leicester Port Vale York Derby Ipswich Bradford (again) Cambridge Rotherham Crawley Leeds Luton Bournemouth Rotherham Halifax Southampton Chester Crystal Palace Port Vale (again) Coventry.
Eight of which are either in or have been in the Premiership since going into administration.
Like it or not the footballing system screwed us over, we chose to be honourable and hang onto the martyrdom that hung round our neck as we've plummeted through the leagues and into the Conference. We had the same option of going into administration like those clubs and writing off our debts. We opted not to. None of those clubs broke the law, they operated within a very loose piece of legislation that was probably written on the back of a packet of cigarettes. More fool us for being honourable.
I hate the way the aforementioned clubs have written off their debts for a penny in the pound, forced local companies to go under whilst signing players on stupid contracts again and to top it all off we've been forced to watch from afar comfortable in the knowledge we've paid our debts but have had to sell our silver at every opportunity.
Fact of the matter is that the current Leicester regime had intercourse all to do with their previous reckless spending, just like the current regime at Chester had nothing to do with the absolute mess created by their previous owner Stephen Vaughan. Do we begrudge Chester their rebirth and relative success because they were run by a crook of a chairman previously? Of course we don't.
As much as the old Leicester and old Portsmouth's of the world screwed us over with their shady dealings, the Premier League has shafted over clubs at this level and even above a hundred times over. If Leicester winning the league and throwing a big middle finger to the establishment and their ability to market the 'EPL' is what it takes, then bring it on!
Leicester have at least made the league interesting to watch this year. As for Vardy, yeah he's an obnoxious twit and if you saw him in the street you would love to give him a slap. But to see him ruffle the feathers of the pampered Premier League posers is a joy. The way he celebrated against Town? Maybe Rob Scott should have kept his gob shut, not for the first time either. Had Mickey Mellon slated Hearn before that game and Hearn had scored the winner before celebrating in front of him, the vast majority of us would have grinned from ear to ear. Vardy is incredible at the minute and a beacon of hope that the top players don't have to come exclusively from the Premier League Academy systems.
I don't think you can compare Leicester with Chester, Chester are a completely new club and had to re-start from the lowest level that the F.A. insisted on.
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I don't think you can compare Leicester with Chester, Chester are a completely new club and had to re-start from the lowest level that the F.A. insisted on.
Ditto Halifax.
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