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ginnywings |
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Last year we were 6 points off the top after 6 games. This year we were 9 off the top after 6 games, which became 12 after the 7th game. I feel a lot better now i've seen that table.
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arryarryarry |
September 2, 2015, 11:47pm |
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Last year we were 6 points off the top after 6 games. This year we were 9 off the top after 6 games, which became 12 after the 7th game. I feel a lot better now i've seen that table.
I'm with you, now I know it is late but from where I am looking it looks like compared to the number of points the top team has got we are worse off this season compared to the rest.
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sparko501 |
September 3, 2015, 12:09am |
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Hmmmm interesting,
The Luton one actually surprised me a bit, just shows how the start of a season is pretty much not what you would expect at the end of a season.
Cheered me up a bit actually, let's keep going and hope that all this crap in the last few games disappears and we get back to playing the way we all know we are capable of, players and staff!
UTM!!!
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ska face |
September 3, 2015, 10:52am |
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If FGR was to have a blip they have plenty of cash to deal with it , Barnet never and we still didn't catch them up
Exactly - Barnet got off to a flyer which meant they could take the foot off the gas for a fairly long period and drop points regularly after Christmas, but still had the comfort of a 15 point gap on those chasing. We are now at the stage where we're already hoping for other teams to drop points. 7 games into the season! FGR will have to effectively lose 4 games where we win just for us to catch them. It boils my urine.
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GollyGTFC |
September 3, 2015, 11:01am |
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So, we started just as badly as other seasons that ended in failure. And here's me thinking we need a change of manager and Hurst has had more than enough chances to do the job he was brought in to do.
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rancido |
September 3, 2015, 1:29pm |
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OK so we get rid of Hurst now. We then have to pay him off and then find a quality manager who wants to take on our poisoned chalice. Most of the retained squad from last year seemed to suggest that one of their main reasons for staying was because of PH. We lose that goodwill and any manager coming in will be treated with a certain mistrust because the players will wonder if they fit in with his plans. It may be a bold statement but if Hurst goes then IMO you can write off this season. We then have a situation where we are treading water all season with quite possibly having a reduced budget for next.
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ska face |
September 3, 2015, 1:45pm |
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Poisoned flipping chalice? Give over. Expectations are clear, realistic and more than achievable - promotion. We're not in League 1 anymore, where the managers' job certiainly was a poisoned chalice as people were expecting championship football but managers were working with League 2 budgets and crowds.
It's certainly not arrogant to suggest that lots of managers would love the opportunity to manage this club right now. Crowds consistently greater than half of those in the division above, a squad of players who would pretty much walk into any other side in the league, a fan base that voluntarily put another 10% on your annual budget & will follow a winning team to the ends of the earth.
People talk about pressure, but town fans are a pretty forgiving bunch in the main - though persistent underperformance isn't tolerated any more here than it is at any other club.
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1mickylyons |
September 3, 2015, 1:57pm |
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OK so we get rid of Hurst now. We then have to pay him off and then find a quality manager who wants to take on our poisoned chalice. Most of the retained squad from last year seemed to suggest that one of their main reasons for staying was because of PH. We lose that goodwill and any manager coming in will be treated with a certain mistrust because the players will wonder if they fit in with his plans. It may be a bold statement but if Hurst goes then IMO you can write off this season. We then have a situation where we are treading water all season with quite possibly having a reduced budget for next.
The way this is going I can see another crowdfunder being set up to pay him off and if I witness another Macclesfield type performance next home game I will be waving a £20.
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rancido |
September 3, 2015, 7:23pm |
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Quoted from 213[b
]Poisoned flipping chalice? Give over. Expectations are clear, realistic and more than achievable - promotion. We're not in League 1 anymore, where the managers' job certiainly was a poisoned chalice as people were expecting championship football but managers were working with League 2 budgets and crowds.[/b]
It's certainly not arrogant to suggest that lots of managers would love the opportunity to manage this club right now. Crowds consistently greater than half of those in the division above, a squad of players who would pretty much walk into any other side in the league, a fan base that voluntarily put another 10% on your annual budget & will follow a winning team to the ends of the earth.
People talk about pressure, but town fans are a pretty forgiving bunch in the main - though persistent underperformance isn't tolerated any more here than it is at any other club.
I would certainly call a managers brief of promotion , no ifs or buts, on the back of the previous managers " achievement " of a play-off final as a poisoned chalice. Coupled with a tendency before PH came here of changing managers almost annually I'm sure a lot of capable managers would have been reticent to take on the challenge. I'm sure lots of managers would love the opportunity to manage our club but how many of those would be capable of getting us promoted? As far as the points you have raised about the increased fan base, the squad of players and the increase in budget by 10%, this has mostly materialised because of the relative success of last season in getting to the final which was done with PH as manager. If we had not got to the final do you honestly believe that the increased season ticket sales, the Operation Promotion and the retention of key players with new quality signings would have happened?
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Started off excrement and didn't get promoted. Hurst out.
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