Managerial Stats - Grimsby Town

I get the argument about punching above our weight, but just playing devil's advocate you could say that we were able to attract Championship quality players when we competed in the Championship.

And that we've only been able to attract Conference standard players while in the Conference.

I agree it's not as simple as that (our budgets were small in the Championship and large in the Conference). Which makes statistics like these very difficult to prove anything - clinically - one way or another.

But they're useful to give a general indication of how our managers have performed. Generally, you'd say, Hurst has done well.

But if you're measuring performance on whether we win titles, then he's just as useless as most of the rest!

Quoted from RichMariner

I get the argument about punching above our weight, but just playing devil's advocate you could say that we were able to attract Championship quality players when we competed in the Championship.

And that we've only been able to attract Conference standard players while in the Conference.

I agree it's not as simple as that (our budgets were small in the Championship and large in the Conference). Which makes statistics like these very difficult to prove anything - clinically - one way or another.

But they're useful to give a general indication of how our managers have performed. Generally, you'd say, Hurst has done well.

But if you're measuring performance on whether we win titles, then he's just as useless as most of the rest!

I thought the same, but also came to the same conclusion. The lower down the pyramid we go, the bigger we get in respect of that league. We are one of the giants in the conference and even with a mediocre manager can easily compete, but doing that in league 1 and Championship is more difficult when you are competing against the likes of Derby and the Sheffield clubs for instance. What Buckley did was far more astonishing than what Hurst's achievements would be if he got us promoted.

Quoted from ginnywings

I thought the same, but also came to the same conclusion. The lower down the pyramid we go, the bigger we get in respect of that league. We are one of the giants in the conference and even with a mediocre manager can easily compete, but doing that in league 1 and Championship is more difficult when you are competing against the likes of Derby and the Sheffield clubs for instance. What Buckley did was far more astonishing than what Hurst's achievements would be if he got us promoted.

I agree the table only tells half the story. Whoever is manager in the Conference you'd expect to feature fairly highly in this table, and whoever is manager in the Championship fairly lowly. It really needs weighting according to our average gate relative to the divisional average, which is a fairly good reflection of spending power (though not perfect as the crowd goes up and down in accordance with league position). I'd like to see a chart with an x-axis of spending power (i.e. our crowd/divisional average) and a y-axis of win ratio, and a best-fit straight line drawn though the data. Anyone above the line would be a better than average manager and below the line worse than average.

Quoted from RichMariner

I get the argument about punching above our weight, but just playing devil's advocate you could say that we were able to attract Championship quality players when we competed in the Championship.

Championship-quality players and Knut Anders Fostervold.

More ganes than George Kerr - I just hope RH don't get him on commentary a few years down the line!