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It's back for the Real Madrid v Man Utd game on Wednesday.
Great chance to recoup some losses!
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February 11, 2013, 12:39pm |
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Thank God, I need the money!
Can someone do the math(s)?
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February 11, 2013, 1:07pm |
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At current odds I would guess
Real pre game £50 at 8/13 = £80.70 return (plus the 'losing' £50 inplay bet) (no profit) Draw in play £50 at 7/2 = £225 (£95 profit) United win £30 at 9/2 = £165 (plus the 'losing' £50 inplay bet) (£85 profit)
The odds are against United so it makes it difficult to balance. It might be worth looking at BTTS.
BTTS Yes 4/6 £50 before the game = £83 (plus the 'losing' £50 inplay bet) gives 33.30 profit BTTS No 11/10 £50 in play = £105 which gives £5 profit
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February 11, 2013, 1:19pm |
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bet 365 have the best odds for real (4-6) and the draw at 4-1. betfred are best for manure at 9-2
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February 11, 2013, 1:22pm |
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you could bet more on real wiining biggles so that you make a profit whatever happens - it's a matched free bet UP to £50
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True enough yeah, you could stick another £30 of the potential winnings from United or the Draw on Real winning and it would give you:
Real = £180 back for £160 stake - £20 profit Draw = £225 back for £160 stake - £65 profit United = £215 back for £160 stake - £45 profit
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February 11, 2013, 1:37pm |
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True enough yeah, you could stick another £30 of the potential winnings from United or the Draw on Real winning and it would give you:
Real = £180 back for £160 stake - £20 profit Draw = £225 back for £160 stake - £65 profit United = £215 back for £160 stake - £45 profit
Isn't it limited to 50 quid though?
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February 11, 2013, 1:40pm |
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Its limited for your 'free' bet yeah. So the inplay draw would be limited to £50, but you can bet what you like on the others.
You can always check with their customer services - but make sure you save the chat.
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February 11, 2013, 1:51pm |
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Cheers Biggles I'm not too impressed with Bet365 at the minute Had a bet on Friday night for the Hull v Bradford RL game which was postponed I thought Hull on Friday might have struggled given their circumstances so went with a Bradford win but they "replayed" it yesterday and instead of giving a refund for a postponement which is what I thought should have happened, my bet went forward to the re-arranged game yesterday which Hull won... On my transaction history it shows the event date as 8-2-10 (Friday) but it wasn't actually played then, so surely that should have been voided? There's probably something in the small print they use against you but I felt a refund would have been in order and then if I'd wanted to back Hull yesterday for example when their preparations were much better than Friday night I could have done Oh well....maybe Wednesday night I'll get my revenge on them and take a few quid back!
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February 11, 2013, 2:07pm |
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I think in football that as long as the game is replayed within 48 hours then the bet stands, so I can only assume that it is the same in the rugby.
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February 11, 2013, 2:50pm |
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I'm surprised by the current odds, thought Madrid might be more like 4/5 or 10/11. Probably wishful thinking though!
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February 11, 2013, 5:48pm |
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I think in football that as long as the game is replayed within 48 hours then the bet stands, so I can only assume that it is the same in the rugby.
Spot on Biggles..just found this on their site Postponed Matches Are void unless re-arranged and played in the same 'Rugby Week' (Monday - Sunday inclusive UK time). Oh well, you live and learn
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February 11, 2013, 5:56pm |
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Spot on Biggles..just found this on their site
Postponed Matches Are void unless re-arranged and played in the same 'Rugby Week' (Monday - Sunday inclusive UK time).
Oh well, you live and learn
I had an accumulator which involved the Poland v England game that was rained over earlier in the season and was waiting to find out what the result was to win my bet. Wish the game had been called off full stop now.....
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February 11, 2013, 6:10pm |
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I had an accumulator which involved the Poland v England game that was rained over earlier in the season and was waiting to find out what the result was to win my bet.
Wish the game had been called off full stop now.....
That game did cross my mind Seems like they have you every which way, so I won't feel too guilty about taking advantage of their deal on Wednesday
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February 11, 2013, 8:45pm |
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Stolen from another forum:
Real Madrid £50 @ 8/13 B365 returns £80.76 Man Utd £14.50 @ 5.8 Betfair returns £80.62 Draw ( In play ) £50 @ 3/1 returns £200
Real Madrid +£16.26 Man Utd +£16.12 Draw +£85.50
So the draw would be the best result and B365 currently have it at 7/2, 3/1 should be readily available just after kick off.
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madrid 50 with bet365 at 8-13 = 80.77 40 with paddy power at 4-6 = 66.66 total = 147.43
manure 27 with bet victor at 9-2 = 148.50
in play draw 50 at c.3-1 = 150
total spent = 117 so min. £30 profit
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February 12, 2013, 7:42pm |
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I've loaded it against a Real win:
Madrid £50 @ 8/13 B365 - Returns £130.76 (£80.76 + £50) Utd In-Play £50 @ 9/2 B365 - Returns £275 Draw £30 @ 4.6 Betfair - Returns £188 (138 + £50)
So, 76p profit if Real win (at what I consider slightly short odds), £58 profit for the draw and £145 if Utd win.
Also: should Utd take the lead; there's the option of laying them to spread out the gains more evenly.
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pizzzza |
February 12, 2013, 9:23pm |
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Just been having a play with this and I've tried to keep it simple by doing only two bets. I've never bothered with these promos before so can someone check my calculations? Pre-match £50 on double chance DRAW/MAN UTD @13/10 returns £115 = £65 profit In play £50 on REAL MADRID @8/13 returns £80.76 - £50 pre match bet = £30.76 profit Hmmm, seems too good to be true?
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February 12, 2013, 9:30pm |
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Just been having a play with this and I've tried to keep it simple by doing only two bets. I've never bothered with these promos before so can someone check my calculations? Pre-match £50 on double chance DRAW/MAN UTD @13/10 returns £115 = £65 profit In play £50 on REAL MADRID @8/13 returns £80.76 - £50 pre match bet = £30.76 profit Hmmm, seems too good to be true?
They might get a bit funny about you 'guaranteeing a result' (ie. Bet365 will definitely be down). Not sure how harsh they are on this. Actually, this wouldn't win! If the in play bet wins you only get 80 quid back. The pre match bet's not refunded.
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February 12, 2013, 9:37pm |
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Actually, this wouldn't win! If the in play bet wins you only get 80 quid back. The pre match bet's not refunded.
Yeh, I accounted for that - £80 returns minus the losing prematch bet = £30 profit?? I think!
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Abdul19 |
February 12, 2013, 9:39pm |
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Yeh, I accounted for that - £80 returns minus the losing prematch bet = £30 profit?? I think!
£50 on double chance £50 on Madrid £100 on and £80 back. Think that's right anyway!
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£50 on double chance £50 on Madrid
£100 on and £80 back. Think that's right anyway!
Ahh, got ya! Back to the drawing board....
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February 12, 2013, 9:58pm |
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I went with: £50 Real Madrid (8/13 Bet 365) £10 Real Madrid (4/6 Paddy Power) £20 Man Utd (9/2 Coral) £50 in play draw (3/1? Bet 365)
Real Madrid win = £17.44 up Draw = £70? up Man Utd win = £30 up
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I went with: £50 Real Madrid (8/13 Bet 365) £10 Real Madrid (4/6 Paddy Power) £20 Man Utd (9/2 Coral) £50 in play draw (3/1? Bet 365)
Real Madrid win = £17.44 up Draw = £70? up Man Utd win = £30 up
That will do for me. Cheers.
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February 13, 2013, 9:11am |
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Ive gone with:
£80 Real at 8/13 £50 in play draw at 3/1(?) £30 United at 9/2
gives me:
£180 back on Real = £20 profit £200 back on the draw = £40 profit £215 back on United = £55 profit
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February 13, 2013, 9:22am |
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Ive gone with:
£80 Real at 8/13 £50 in play draw at 3/1(?) £30 United at 9/2
gives me:
£180 back on Real = £20 profit £200 back on the draw = £40 profit £215 back on United = £55 profit
Latest odds on Bet 365 are as follows: Madrid - 13/20 Draw - 17/5 Man U - 17/4 Bit stingy odds on Madrid. Guess lots are doing the in play thing.
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Thats good for me then, ive already got my madrid bets and United bet sorted so hopefully the odds will stay at more than 3/1 for the draw.
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February 13, 2013, 7:03pm |
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I've loaded it against a Real win:
Madrid £50 @ 8/13 B365 - Returns £130.76 (£80.76 + £50) Utd In-Play £50 @ 9/2 B365 - Returns £275 Draw £30 @ 4.6 Betfair - Returns £188 (138 + £50)
So, 76p profit if Real win (at what I consider slightly short odds), £58 profit for the draw and £145 if Utd win.
Also: should Utd take the lead; there's the option of laying them to spread out the gains more evenly.
Got 5.0 on Betfair draw... But worse on Real on 365... lose £2 if Real win. Won't mind if Fergie pulls something out. Shame I have to support United now
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February 13, 2013, 9:41pm |
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7/2 in play on the draw = £95 up. Cheers 365!
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£50 profit, put extra tenner on madrid in 70th min. Not bad nights work, Van Persie could have won me a lot more with that last kick!!!
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February 13, 2013, 9:53pm |
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7/2 in play on the draw = £95 up. Cheers 365!
Yep, same. I out another £20 on Madrid though so £75 profit. Great game to watch.
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£65 profit on 365 and £30 worth of freebets to use as i used PP to place the UTD win bet on Many thanks to Biggles for setting me up, cheers pal
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February 13, 2013, 10:24pm |
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110 profit thanks bet 365
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£95 for me, great result. Cheers guys.
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February 14, 2013, 1:13pm |
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With 365 being hit like this, Michael Owen might not be getting paid this week
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February 14, 2013, 1:19pm |
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Made a few quid myself last night but to be fair Abdul BET365 are not going to cry too much about their losses
I'm pretty sure, in the coming weeks, they'll see most of our winnings heading back their way one way or another, as I don't think too many of us will just bank the money until their next deal
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Think they are trying to folk hooked on in play betting. Not working with me, I don't like it one bit.
Would rather watch the game than fanny around working out value odds, refreshing my screen etc.
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Think they are trying to folk hooked on in play betting. Not working with me, I don't like it one bit.
Would rather watch the game than fanny around working out value odds, refreshing my screen etc.
Nah mate, you wanna go cards n' corners!
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Nah mate, you wanna go cards n' corners!
BET IN PLAY NOHHW
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Wus thaat? You want anava? Check art on screen nah HEARN 5-1 to score next tarn goal you slaaaaggs!!
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