Pay up Pompey

Surely this circus is finally going to come to an end now.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sp.....buy-pompey-1-4162603

Wonder how it will affect promotion and relegation if they do liquidate?

It's hard to believe the FL have been so lenient with them, bearing in mind their season is only a few days off starting and they surely can't guarantee being able to fulfil all their fixtures for the next nine months

Mind you the authorities have bent over backwards over the past few years to help them out, starting with the Prem who wouldn't allow them to go bust when they were in the top flight

I've got no sympathy with Leeds or Luton for example with them having been docked points but their cases were surely no worse than Portsmouths and yet they got hit with much worse sanctions (as did Bournemouth, Rotherham too if I recall correctly)

If Pompey go pop, I won't be shedding any tears for them

At this moment in time, we feel that:

- the negative criticism and lack of support for our takeover by the fans of this club.

- the fact that the administrators do not want to compromise on their unrealistic fees.

- the fact that suddenly the club has received additional huge football creditors’ claims from former players and management such as Hughes, Brown, Kanu, and Lampitt and more.

- the fact that all the money from the parachute payment which were supposed to carry the club for the next two seasons was spent and committed by the administrator on players’ compromises and fees : total £12million.

This is my favourite, parachute payment, shove that up your harris  

- the fact that the Football League has decided to deduct 10 points for no reasonable reason and by its decisions didn’t show any willingness to help in saving this troubled club.

no reasonable reason, fcuk me you're ignorant to how lucky you are it should be 20 or 30 points, you have got very fcuking lightly.

- the fact that the supporters’ trust which we met and we voiced our support for their takeover bid could not raise the funds to satisfy the administrator or the Football League and the loan that was promised them by the council had unrealistic terms.

- the fact that the club did not get any real support from any official they were all very good at creating headlines.

- and finally the last straw yesterday afternoon the manager told the press before the season starts that he is sure of another relegation.

‘All of these facts have left us in a position that we no longer want to fight this battle, we have zero support to save the club therefore we formally withdraw our bid and our honest attempt at saving the club. We will sleep well knowing we did our utmost to save the club.

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PAY UP POMPEY
POMPEY PAY UP

Quoted from psgmariner

Surely this circus is finally going to come to an end now.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sp.....buy-pompey-1-4162603

Wonder how it will affect promotion and relegation if they do liquidate?

I would have thought that League One would just operate with 23 teams this season and then any amendments could be made for next season. If so, it may mean 3 teams coming up from the BSP at the end of this season or maybe only 1 team being relegated. The latter rather than the former most probably.

Quoted from Les Brechin

I would have thought that League One would just operate with 23 teams this season and then any amendments could be made for next season. If so, it may mean 3 teams coming up from the BSP at the end of this season or maybe only 1 team being relegated. The latter rather than the former most probably.

Here's hoping it's 3 teams going up!

the fact that all the money from the parachute payment which were supposed to carry the club for the next two seasons was spent and committed by the administrator on players’ compromises and fees : total £12million.
Pompey and parachute payments. In the same sentence. Why does that evoke a small memory in my head?

Anyway, the absolute final, FINAL straw for me in amongst so many crimes against decency was to hear the manager Appleton moaning he only had 1.5 million to spend.
1.5 MILLION in League One ? Is that not enough to build a decent stable side and start on the long road to recovery? Should they not be forever grateful that they have anything at all to spend ? Or is everyone at this ridiculous club so detached from the damage they've done that they demand an instant promotion and put this club 'back where they belong blah de blah..'

Quoted from Les Brechin

I would have thought that League One would just operate with 23 teams this season and then any amendments could be made for next season. If so, it may mean 3 teams coming up from the BSP at the end of this season or maybe only 1 team being relegated. The latter rather than the former most probably.

If the FL authorities and the SFA have anything in common then it could just as easily be the former

When Rangers got dumped down the leagues, I know Dunfermline thought they had a good case for staying in the SPL but their governing body chose to promote Dundee additionally (probably because they are a "bigger" team and would have the Tayside derbies to bring in cash)

Surely going to be liquidated now, these look like being the last days for PFC.

There are already plans to start again with an AFC Portsmouth apparently, but FA rules are a bit stricter than the SFA.

I think the highest any reborn Pompey could start again is Step 5 of the NLS, most likely the Combined Counties Premier alongside sides such as Dorking and Epsom & Ewell.

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Compromise deals struck with the club’s big earners, such as Tal Ben Haim, Liam Lawrence, Kanu and Dave Kitson amount to £8 million over the next four years, far more than the trust can currently afford.

Quite amusing...no parachute payment's, so now they will get sweet FA! These players have more or less become the executioners of Portsmouth.

I feel sorry for Portsmouth, laws need to be changed so that the actual owners are responsible for huge debts, send those accountable for idiotic spending to prison and make them bankrupt as well.

Clubs would soon be run under their own means then across the board and players woudn't be on daft contracts and silly wages like these overpaid prima donna's.

how come they start with -10 when the other season bournemouth and rotherham started with -17?

Now starting on zero points apparently.

They will be deducted 10 points as and when they come out of administration, weird chain of events.

Quoted from BiloLCFC

Now starting on zero points apparently.

They will be deducted 10 points as and when they come out of administration, weird chain of events.

All those clubs who got more than 10 points for the 2nd time they went into admin should stick the boot in, this stinks of favoritism just because they won the FA cup and played in the Prem with players they couldn't afford.

The FA are two faced.

They've just signed 10 (TEN) players so they can start the season. What a flipping joke.

You couldn't make it up....unless you're football's governing bodies of course  

They had to play the youth team away at Plymouth Argyle in the cup on tuesday. One of the players aged 35 went off after a short time injured, this reduced the average age down to 18. Argyle won 3 nil, & they are crap anyway,( their best signing of the summer was a fireman from Wales who has never played pro ball before.)
My point is that Portsmouth will be so poor that it will make L1 a joke with scores against them around double figures being quite possible. Teams playing them in early season should be able to ensure a good goal difference before someone puts money for players in to improve the team. This would make promotion/religation on goal difference most unfair.
Best to be rid of them before the season starts. I hope that players like Kanu get all of the money they are owed, they could have signed for other clubs & got paid, but were conned by Portsmouth.

Quoted from siy2k5

They've just signed 10 (TEN) players so they can start the season. What a flipping joke.

Izale McLeod who they have just signed from Barnet is a quality striker. Most L1, L2 clubs would love to be able to afford his wages! W T F are they getting the money from?

do you think that if we were in a similar situation we'd get treated equally as leniently?

Quoted from forza ivano

do you think that if we were in a similar situation we'd get treated equally as leniently?

Certainly not by the conference (as it should be). It's time the plug was pulled on these clowns.

Quoted from forza ivano

do you think that if we were in a similar situation we'd get treated equally as leniently?

In a word......NO

Monthly contracts to all ten, or so I've been led to believe.

What they do after September is anybody's guess, I presume they're hoping for a buyer by then to make it permanent.

If not, they're down to the youth team again after September and the likes of Brian Howard and Izale McLeod become too expensive.

It's a joke though, especially their whinging about getting a ten point deduction in the first place. When we went into administration in 2002, some of their fans wanted us thrown out of the league altogether!

They should have just folded the club. They've been taking the urine for years now and when they end up back down to youth players it'll make a mockery of the league. And the cheek to moan about a punishment they knew about is crazy...

Quoted from BiloLCFC

Monthly contracts to all ten, or so I've been led to believe.

What they do after September is anybody's guess, I presume they're hoping for a buyer by then to make it permanent.

If not, they're down to the youth team again after September and the likes of Brian Howard and Izale McLeod become too expensive.

It's a joke though, especially their whinging about getting a ten point deduction in the first place. When we went into administration in 2002, some of their fans wanted us thrown out of the league altogether!

If they're on monthly contracts they won't be able to sign for another league club when their contracts up, so the players must be desperate.

Quoted from tashee69

If they're on monthly contracts they won't be able to sign for another league club when their contracts up, so the players must be desperate.

You can be registered to a maximum of two clubs in a season, hence the transfer windows.

I expect most will be thinking Portsmouth are perhaps a neat way of putting themselves in the shop window and getting some game time rather than sitting at home playing PS3, out of contract and out of sight.

Quoted from BiloLCFC

You can be registered to a maximum of two clubs in a season, hence the transfer windows.

I expect most will be thinking Portsmouth are perhaps a neat way of putting themselves in the shop window and getting some game time rather than sitting at home playing PS3, out of contract and out of sight.

But you cant sign for another club outside of the contract window, so that would mean if their contracts run out in September and Pompey dont take them back on then they will end up sitting around for best part of 3 months.

Quoted from BiloLCFC

You can be registered to a maximum of two clubs in a season, hence the transfer windows.

I expect most will be thinking Portsmouth are perhaps a neat way of putting themselves in the shop window and getting some game time rather than sitting at home playing PS3, out of contract and out of sight.

I always thought that if you was registered to a club when the window closed then you were unable to move to another club until the window opened again. If they left in August then there would be no problem signing for someone in (eg) October.

Quoted from biggles9999

But you cant sign for another club outside of the contract window, so that would mean if their contracts run out in September and Pompey dont take them back on then they will end up sitting around for best part of 3 months.

As I see it they would become unattached (free agents) & therefore able to sign for any club at any time.

A club can't sell or transfer your player registration outside of the transfer window, however I can't see how they can possibly stop someone who is unemployed seeking another job, it would be against EU law. Everybody has the right to work, and its illegal to restrict that right, and is the same piece of law that had the FA rule about the number of foreign players a team could have overturned.

What if Pay Up Pompey didn't pay their wages, are they free to sign for anyone then?

Quoted from scrumble

A club can't sell or transfer your player registration outside of the transfer window, however I can't see how they can possibly stop someone who is unemployed seeking another job, it would be against EU law. Everybody has the right to work, and its illegal to restrict that right, and is the same piece of law that had the FA rule about the number of foreign players a team could have overturned.

If you can remember a couple of seasons ago, I think it was Boulding who was released after the transfer window closed and some Town fans wanted to sign him, but because his contract was held by a club when the transfer deadline closed he was classed as being one of their players.
Like I said, I think  if the player is a free agent when the window shuts then he can sign for anyone, if he's under contract when it closes he cannot sign until the window reopens. Tyrone Thompson last season left Town because he either wanted a longer contract or to be released so he could find another club or he'd be unable to get a club until January.