Rob Scott - Post Match

First of all a great following of fans not quite matched by the performance on the pitch.

Had all the ball but not ruthless enough.  Should have been three up at half time but that probably wouldn't have been enough.  Took the foot of the gas with twenty to go.

However, take it for what it is, another game under the belt, get used to not playing well and winning (grinding it out) and plenty of areas to work on.

All the 1st team lads not involved tonight (Lincoln) including those who came off the bench will be involved tomorrow night (North Ferriby) including Hearn (if he has no reaction to training).

No first team place is at this stage secured.  Everything is still up for grabs.

A very calm and balanced interview, I thought, from Mr Scott.

UTM

It's easy to be calm and balanced after a win in a relatively insignificant match. Personal challenge for Rob Scott this season is to rid himself of the petulance and try to keep calm and lucid post match, whatever the outcome. There were a few frankly cringeworthy, peevish moments last year that didn't show him in a very good light (eg, the pointless and childish spat with Tondeur from RH). I hope we see a slightly different Rob Scott post match this season.

Quoted from chaos33

It's easy to be calm and balanced after a win in a relatively insignificant match. Personal challenge for Rob Scott this season is to rid himself of the petulance and try to keep calm and lucid post match, whatever the outcome. There were a few frankly cringeworthy, peevish moments last year that didn't show him in a very good light (eg, the pointless and childish spat with Tondeur from RH). I hope we see a slightly different Rob Scott post match this season.

Scott became a Dad for the first time this summer, maybe being a Dad will calm Rob down a tad?

Doubt it and why should it? He is what he is, that's the beauty of having management duo ones a kunt the other is quietly spoken, but mainly they both talk a good game.

I like the bit "Scott was more impressed with Town's 812 travelling fans than his players."

Whereas Holdsworth probably thought the opposite at his end.

Quoted from Devonmatt

No first team place is at this stage secured.  Everything is still up for grabs.


UTM

nice to see there is no hierarchy at the club if he stands by what he says (players are being judged on performances alone and not on past reputations which I think is good)

Slightly concerned about the interview tbh.

If the plan is to "grind out" wins I've got this horrible feeling of deja vu.
Maybe it's just bad history/memories and it's gonna work this time round but never convinced by a defensive minded approach (especially when it hasn't worked at the club for so long)

When he talks about Thanoj & co needing to realise their potential I wonder how good he thinks we really are going forward and whether that's the underlying reason for a more pragmatic mindset.
If so suppose I can understand it but genuinely think ability and confidence of attacking players is only likely to increase once we show more bravery to attack and realise it's rewards (instead of always defending 1 goal leads).

Accept his Chelsea example but think it's the more the black swan exception than the rule.

Funny I thought the general consensus was we needed a good start but now I'm concerned it's more about avoiding a bad one.

End of the day keeping it tight is only a lower risk strategy IF you keep a clean sheet but whatever you do there's always risks involved.
If you DO concede you've suddenly got to switch your tactics to attack and deliver anyway.
And assuming that works then it begs the question "So why weren't we doing it to start off with ?..."
If relegation is any benchmark I doubt a shed load of 0-0's will do much good long term either.
Don't get me wrong not saying we don't or won't attack from the off, just wish we'd KEEP attacking and not keep reverting to type.
Maybe Scott feels the same but I'm becoming more unconvinced. (especially after his comment about going to places playing 4-3-3?)

Hopefully we'll be up there chasing the playoffs but my hope of us reaching for the stars has all but disappeared.  

When are we gonna start to seize the opportunity and get those valuable 2 goal cushions that allow the players more freedom to express their ability, boost confidence all over and help run up cricket scores to get us on a roll of confidence ?
No co-incidence the confidence to express ourselves was there right at the VERY end(i.e. when we knew victory was in the bag) vs Scunny !
  
Can't we try to bust a gut to finish teams off at 1-0 instead of taking our foot off the gas all the time to defend and play with fire ?  
I've heard Scott say before there are times when you need to defend and certainly agree, but don't think it's wise to make a conscious decision to do it regularly. (or is it just a subconsious habit we can't get out of ?...)
See we got pegged back again to 1-1 tonight so I'll go for the same result at Southport - Town dominating and scoring but then conceding in the final minute when trying to shut up shop. (fingers crossed we'll scrape a 1-0 though).

Sorry for the "negativity", just concerned we're not learning our lessons and that we won't gain the same momentum we showed last season until we're practically forced to come out of our shell to do it. (like when I said beating Lincoln away last season could lead to a great run and you'll notice there was no comfort blanket of victory via penalites that day !)

Cue someone quoting my entire post with a derogatory 1 line reply...   

Quoted from 1600

Slightly concerned about the interview tbh.

If the plan is to "grind out" wins I've got this horrible feeling of deja vu.
Maybe it's just bad history/memories and it's gonna work this time round but never convinced by a defensive minded approach (especially when it hasn't worked at the club for so long)

When he talks about Thanoj & co needing to realise their potential I wonder how good he thinks we really are going forward and whether that's the underlying reason for a more pragmatic mindset.
If so suppose I can understand it but genuinely think ability and confidence of attacking players is only likely to increase once we show more bravery to attack and realise it's rewards (instead of always defending 1 goal leads).

Accept his Chelsea example but think it's the more the black swan exception than the rule.

Funny I thought the general consensus was we needed a good start but now I'm concerned it's more about avoiding a bad one.

End of the day keeping it tight is only a lower risk strategy IF you keep a clean sheet but whatever you do there's always risks involved.
If you DO concede you've suddenly got to switch your tactics to attack and deliver anyway.
And assuming that works then it begs the question "So why weren't we doing it to start off with ?..."
If relegation is any benchmark I doubt a shed load of 0-0's will do much good long term either.
Don't get me wrong not saying we don't or won't attack from the off, just wish we'd KEEP attacking and not keep reverting to type.
Maybe Scott feels the same but I'm becoming more unconvinced. (especially after his comment about going to places playing 4-3-3?)

Hopefully we'll be up there chasing the playoffs but my hope of us reaching for the stars has all but disappeared.  

When are we gonna start to seize the opportunity and get those valuable 2 goal cushions that allow the players more freedom to express their ability, boost confidence all over and help run up cricket scores to get us on a roll of confidence ?
No co-incidence the confidence to express ourselves was there right at the VERY end(i.e. when we knew victory was in the bag) vs Scunny !
  
Can't we try to bust a gut to finish teams off at 1-0 instead of taking our foot off the gas all the time to defend and play with fire ?  
I've heard Scott say before there are times when you need to defend and certainly agree, but don't think it's wise to make a conscious decision to do it regularly. (or is it just a subconsious habit we can't get out of ?...)
See we got pegged back again to 1-1 tonight so I'll go for the same result at Southport - Town dominating and scoring but then conceding in the final minute when trying to shut up shop. (fingers crossed we'll scrape a 1-0 though).

Sorry for the "negativity", just concerned we're not learning our lessons and that we won't gain the same momentum we showed last season until we're practically forced to come out of our shell to do it. (like when I said beating Lincoln away last season could lead to a great run and you'll notice there was no comfort blanket of victory via penalites that day !)

Cue someone quoting my entire post with a derogatory 1 line reply...   

I think he says in the interview that we need to be more ruthless so I dont think he's gonna be going to shut up shop early doors. We created plenty of chances in the lincoln game on another day the score could of been 5-1. Saying that it does concern me a little that sometimes we sit too deep and invite pressure. Im sure Scott and Hurst are aware of this thou and it will be worked on. It is only pre-season after all. The real test starts on the 11th and im sure we will start well. Pre-season's about working out strengths and weakness in the team then getting it right for the season. Im sure they will do just that. UTM

Quoted from 1600

Slightly concerned about the interview tbh.

If the plan is to "grind out" wins I've got this horrible feeling of deja vu.
Maybe it's just bad history/memories and it's gonna work this time round but never convinced by a defensive minded approach (especially when it hasn't worked at the club for so long)

When he talks about Thanoj & co needing to realise their potential I wonder how good he thinks we really are going forward and whether that's the underlying reason for a more pragmatic mindset.
If so suppose I can understand it but genuinely think ability and confidence of attacking players is only likely to increase once we show more bravery to attack and realise it's rewards (instead of always defending 1 goal leads).

Accept his Chelsea example but think it's the more the black swan exception than the rule.

Funny I thought the general consensus was we needed a good start but now I'm concerned it's more about avoiding a bad one.

End of the day keeping it tight is only a lower risk strategy IF you keep a clean sheet but whatever you do there's always risks involved.
If you DO concede you've suddenly got to switch your tactics to attack and deliver anyway.
And assuming that works then it begs the question "So why weren't we doing it to start off with ?..."
If relegation is any benchmark I doubt a shed load of 0-0's will do much good long term either.
Don't get me wrong not saying we don't or won't attack from the off, just wish we'd KEEP attacking and not keep reverting to type.
Maybe Scott feels the same but I'm becoming more unconvinced. (especially after his comment about going to places playing 4-3-3?)

Hopefully we'll be up there chasing the playoffs but my hope of us reaching for the stars has all but disappeared.  

When are we gonna start to seize the opportunity and get those valuable 2 goal cushions that allow the players more freedom to express their ability, boost confidence all over and help run up cricket scores to get us on a roll of confidence ?
No co-incidence the confidence to express ourselves was there right at the VERY end(i.e. when we knew victory was in the bag) vs Scunny !
  
Can't we try to bust a gut to finish teams off at 1-0 instead of taking our foot off the gas all the time to defend and play with fire ?  
I've heard Scott say before there are times when you need to defend and certainly agree, but don't think it's wise to make a conscious decision to do it regularly. (or is it just a subconsious habit we can't get out of ?...)
See we got pegged back again to 1-1 tonight so I'll go for the same result at Southport - Town dominating and scoring but then conceding in the final minute when trying to shut up shop. (fingers crossed we'll scrape a 1-0 though).

Sorry for the "negativity", just concerned we're not learning our lessons and that we won't gain the same momentum we showed last season until we're practically forced to come out of our shell to do it. (like when I said beating Lincoln away last season could lead to a great run and you'll notice there was no comfort blanket of victory via penalites that day !)

Cue someone quoting my entire post with a derogatory 1 line reply...   

The point is 80s that you don't have to write a dissertation to get your point across every time you post!  You really do take these interviews far too seriously and disect them to the nth degree. What is said in interviews is for public consumption only, what goes on behind the dressing room door is quite a different matter.

Lighten up for pity's sake!

Quoted from 1600

Slightly concerned about the interview tbh.

If the plan is to "grind out" wins I've got this horrible feeling of deja vu.
Maybe it's just bad history/memories and it's gonna work this time round but never convinced by a defensive minded approach (especially when it hasn't worked at the club for so long)

When he talks about Thanoj & co needing to realise their potential I wonder how good he thinks we really are going forward and whether that's the underlying reason for a more pragmatic mindset.
If so suppose I can understand it but genuinely think ability and confidence of attacking players is only likely to increase once we show more bravery to attack and realise it's rewards (instead of always defending 1 goal leads).

Accept his Chelsea example but think it's the more the black swan exception than the rule.

Funny I thought the general consensus was we needed a good start but now I'm concerned it's more about avoiding a bad one.

End of the day keeping it tight is only a lower risk strategy IF you keep a clean sheet but whatever you do there's always risks involved.
If you DO concede you've suddenly got to switch your tactics to attack and deliver anyway.
And assuming that works then it begs the question "So why weren't we doing it to start off with ?..."
If relegation is any benchmark I doubt a shed load of 0-0's will do much good long term either.
Don't get me wrong not saying we don't or won't attack from the off, just wish we'd KEEP attacking and not keep reverting to type.
Maybe Scott feels the same but I'm becoming more unconvinced. (especially after his comment about going to places playing 4-3-3?)

Hopefully we'll be up there chasing the playoffs but my hope of us reaching for the stars has all but disappeared.  

When are we gonna start to seize the opportunity and get those valuable 2 goal cushions that allow the players more freedom to express their ability, boost confidence all over and help run up cricket scores to get us on a roll of confidence ?
No co-incidence the confidence to express ourselves was there right at the VERY end(i.e. when we knew victory was in the bag) vs Scunny !
  
Can't we try to bust a gut to finish teams off at 1-0 instead of taking our foot off the gas all the time to defend and play with fire ?  
I've heard Scott say before there are times when you need to defend and certainly agree, but don't think it's wise to make a conscious decision to do it regularly. (or is it just a subconsious habit we can't get out of ?...)
See we got pegged back again to 1-1 tonight so I'll go for the same result at Southport - Town dominating and scoring but then conceding in the final minute when trying to shut up shop. (fingers crossed we'll scrape a 1-0 though).

Sorry for the "negativity", just concerned we're not learning our lessons and that we won't gain the same momentum we showed last season until we're practically forced to come out of our shell to do it. (like when I said beating Lincoln away last season could lead to a great run and you'll notice there was no comfort blanket of victory via penalites that day !)

Cue someone quoting my entire post with a derogatory 1 line reply...   

TL;DR.....  

Quoted from GodHelpUs

The point is 80s that you don't have to write a dissertation to get your point across every time you post!  You really do take these interviews far too seriously and disect them to the nth degree. What is said in interviews is for public consumption only, what goes on behind the dressing room door is quite a different matter.

Lighten up for pity's sake!

have to give to 80s I think on the whole he speaks a lot of sense and puts in a lot when he posts however does overdo it at times.On the subject of what is aired in public and what goes on behind closed doors this  probably does go on.

I agree that RS needs to choose his comments wisely this season.  Having a go a refs (and female refs) will result in more bans and upsets refs generally.    What goes around comes around.  We don't want to disadvantage ourselves compared to other teams.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

   What goes around comes around. .

totally agree  karma

Karma has certainly hindered fleetwood!

Quoted from Youngy

Scott became a Dad for the first time this summer, maybe being a Dad will calm Rob down a tad?

Obviously you're not a dad, otherwise you'd know you get more stressed when you've got kids

Quoted from GodHelpUs

The point is 80s that you don't have to write a dissertation to get your point across every time you post!  You really do take these interviews far too seriously and disect them to the nth degree. What is said in interviews is for public consumption only, what goes on behind the dressing room door is quite a different matter.

Lighten up for pity's sake!

Maybe 80's should interview them

Quoted from GodHelpUs

The point is 80s that you don't have to write a dissertation to get your point across every time you post!  You really do take these interviews far too seriously and disect them to the nth degree. What is said in interviews is for public consumption only, what goes on behind the dressing room door is quite a different matter.

Lighten up for pity's sake!

See your point but don't post half as much as I used to and think it could be an important point.

I could just say nothing but think there can be positive effects in pointing out potential danger signs (especially in pre-season)
It's not like I don't give plenty of credit when it's due either.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into the "grind" statement but it's not like it's a new phenomenon.

I'm sure you're probably right about what gets said in the dressing room but don't really understand the relevance.
The underlying fact seems to be we keep doing the same thing again and again.

Quoted from MingMingMariner

I think he says in the interview that we need to be more ruthless so I dont think he's gonna be going to shut up shop early doors. We created plenty of chances in the lincoln game on another day the score could of been 5-1. Saying that it does concern me a little that sometimes we sit too deep and invite pressure. Im sure Scott and Hurst are aware of this thou and it will be worked on. It is only pre-season after all. The real test starts on the 11th and im sure we will start well. Pre-season's about working out strengths and weakness in the team then getting it right for the season. Im sure they will do just that. UTM

Good post.
You say they'll work on it and I agree too, but think they've said they'll work on dropping deep before (and I'm sure they most probably have)
Alas maybe that's part of my frustration but I agree with the rest of your post.

Just think if it was sorted once and for all things could be a lot more rosy for everyone all round.

Anyway I've had my say...

Quoted from 1600

Anyway I've had my say...

about time