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2578
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The new stadium could be on the moon and people still wouldn't want it to go ahead


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Quoted from carrot top
The new stadium could be on the moon and people still wouldn't want it to go ahead


moon ? never happen.......


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I just put the moon into trainline.com but nothing came up. Anyone driving the 238,900 miles got a spare seat?

the same site a one way ticket to Hell leaving in 30mins costs £99 and you have to change at Leeds
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Quoted from Southwark Mariner
I just put the moon into trainline.com but nothing came up. Anyone driving the 238,900 miles got a spare seat?

the same site a one way ticket to Hell leaving in 30mins costs £99 and you have to change at Leeds



Thought we were playing at home tonight



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Oh dear, red squirrels my big fat bum. They are rare in the UK and now some happen to live on the site.

If most of the allotments are rented the council as the land lord only has to give legal notice.

The rest can be paid off with decent offers for their land.

Watford has allotments near the ground.

The crem can work with GTFC to create better parking and a venue for wakes etc.

We have to look at all options and Supermarket if interested in our location should not be turned down"
Look to attract green industry too and make Grimsby a key player in making the Humber the enviromental services capifal of the UK.


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I almost chuckle when old people get stressed about stuff that'll take a few years to happen.....Don't worry mate, you won't be at the alotment, you'll be over the other side of the road in the Crem. FFS
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I almost chuckle when old people get stressed about stuff that'll take a few years to happen.....Don't worry mate, you won't be at the alotment, you'll be over the other side of the road in the Crem. FFS


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I almost chuckle when old people get stressed about stuff that'll take a few years to happen.....Don't worry mate, you won't be at the alotment, you'll be over the other side of the road in the Crem. FFS


Lol  just what I was thinking  
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"He said: "The best part about nannie's allotment is eating the vegetables. I love broccoli!"


Back to the drawing board, John. We can't compete with this kind of local resistance.
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"He said: "The best part about nannie's allotment is eating the vegetables. I love broccoli!"


Back to the drawing board, John. We can't compete with this kind of local resistance.


Lol


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I presume that most of the allotment owners are Great Coates residents.












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I presume that most of the allotment owners are Great Coates residents.


If not, then they soon will be.
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Oh dear, red squirrels my big fat bum. They are rare in the UK and now some happen to live on the site.



More like baby foxes !



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The bloke's name is Lewis Haddock and he's against the Mariner's new stadium?!? That seems wrong to me.


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The stadium is doomed then,allotment owners gathering their forces and protecting their vegetables.No matter what we do as a club,it is well known that you will never beat the " greens ".
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I could imagine them doing a protest with their pitch forks

What do we want?
No to football
When do want it?
Now


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Funniest thread on the Fishy for ages.....Well done all contributors (Yes even you Aaron)


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Mr Haddock is having a laugh isn't he, ?

By the time the plans go through ( if approved ) and all the money is in place,

The time is would take to do all this and then build the stadium,

He will be long gone  and so will I and many others on here.



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I almost chuckle when old people get stressed about stuff that'll take a few years to happen.....Don't worry mate, you won't be at the alotment, you'll be over the other side of the road in the Crem. FFS


haha I thought the same thing when I read the article this morning!
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North East Lincolnshire Council manages allotments across the Grimsby and Cleethorpes area. All plots are on secure sites with locked gates except for the Saltings site which is open from dawn to dusk.

Carr Lane allotments (entrances off Lestrange Street in Cleethorpes and Beeley Road in Grimsby)
Littlecoates allotments (entrance off Lister Street in Grimsby)
Peaksfield allotments (entrance off Weelsby Avenue, Grimsby opposite the crematorium)
Saltings allotments (entrance off Littlefield Lane in Grimsby)
Springfield allotments (entrance off Springfield Road in Grimsby)
Weelsby allotments (entrance off Garton Grove in Grimsby)
Winchester allotments (entrance off Laceby Road opposite Norwich Avenue in Grimsby)

Surely these sites aren't all packed out and they can be moved on to one these sites
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I don't quite see how it is an over-reaction. Not everyone likes football and of those that do not all like Grimsby Town; it's a shocker I know but there you have it.

It might be funny to belittle those folks as simple old coffin-dodgers but each to their own. I'm not one for gardening but others are, you have to respect this. If the club are to succeed this time around they need to engage with people like this rather than ignore them as they effectively did with the people at Great Coates.

For the record I think the new site is a terrible choice with awful road connections - Peakes Parkway and adjacent town centre roads are a mare on a Saturday afternoon anyway without hundreds more cars jamming up the system, it is next to the cemetery and crem and near a hospice all of which is manna from heaven for any opposition campaign. And whereas the last campaign involved residents from one village any opposition now could cover a larger area - Scartho, New Waltham and Park Ward.

The only reason I can think of that this land has been proposed is because the council own it and stand to get a big dollop of cash if it is sold with planning permission for a retail development. Whether it is the right plot is something else.


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North East Lincolnshire Council manages allotments across the Grimsby and Cleethorpes area. All plots are on secure sites with locked gates except for the Saltings site which is open from dawn to dusk.

Carr Lane allotments (entrances off Lestrange Street in Cleethorpes and Beeley Road in Grimsby)
Littlecoates allotments (entrance off Lister Street in Grimsby)
Peaksfield allotments (entrance off Weelsby Avenue, Grimsby opposite the crematorium)
Saltings allotments (entrance off Littlefield Lane in Grimsby)
Springfield allotments (entrance off Springfield Road in Grimsby)
Weelsby allotments (entrance off Garton Grove in Grimsby)
Winchester allotments (entrance off Laceby Road opposite Norwich Avenue in Grimsby)

Surely these sites aren't all packed out and they can be moved on to one these sites


Moving them to new sites misses the point. Many allotment holders take years to get their plots to how they want them; getting the soil conditions right can take a year in itself. For them it is an emotional investment - similar to one mnay fans put into their club - and to suggest they can be moved just like that is an affront to those people. It's like saying move the Mariners to Glanford Park - after all what's the problem, it's a football ground isn't it and aren't they all the same?


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I don't quite see how it is an over-reaction. Not everyone likes football and of those that do not all like Grimsby Town; it's a shocker I know but there you have it.

It might be funny to belittle those folks as simple old coffin-dodgers but each to their own. I'm not one for gardening but others are, you have to respect this. If the club are to succeed this time around they need to engage with people like this rather than ignore them as they effectively did with the people at Great Coates.

For the record I think the new site is a terrible choice with awful road connections - Peakes Parkway and adjacent town centre roads are a mare on a Saturday afternoon anyway without hundreds more cars jamming up the system, it is next to the cemetery and crem and near a hospice all of which is manna from heaven for any opposition campaign. And whereas the last campaign involved residents from one village any opposition now could cover a larger area - Scartho, New Waltham and Park Ward.

The only reason I can think of that this land has been proposed is because the council own it and stand to get a big dollop of cash if it is sold with planning permission for a retail development. Whether it is the right plot is something else.


I agree with the sentiments about those who have the allotments and feel there has to be meaningful consultation with them.  

Could not agree less as far as far as the road system is concerned however. Peakes Parkway is as good as it gets as far as road infrastructure is concerned other than the A180 - and there isn't any available land round there anymore.

I don't know what the financial details will be but would imagine that any "dollop of cash" will be used to fund the development.
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Just build a ground like this and they can farm the roof
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Moving them to new sites misses the point. Many allotment holders take years to get their plots to how they want them; getting the soil conditions right can take a year in itself. For them it is an emotional investment - similar to one mnay fans put into their club - and to suggest they can be moved just like that is an affront to those people. It's like saying move the Mariners to Glanford Park - after all what's the problem, it's a football ground isn't it and aren't they all the same?


What happens if the local council wants to dispose of the land?
If your local council wants to sell a permanent allotment site, it must have the consent of the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government.
The allotment provider must also fulfill certain conditions, including consulting with plotholders.
If the application is successful, the council has to provide an alternative site. If a statutory allotment provider ends a tenancy, the plotholder is entitled to compensation.
If your allotment is temporary or on privately owned land, then the Secretary of State's consent is not required. However, the allotment authority will usually still need to give you 12 months' notice.

I'm sure people complained when the Government had a compulsory purchase order in place for the Olympic sites, but it had to be done. People need to get their head from up the clouds and realise that a boost to our local economy is far more important than their carrots and stuff.
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Doesn't take long for the misery's on here to spoil a thread having a laugh at a ridiculous story about mr haddock and co having a panic and declaring all out war against GTFC, I bet even the telegaph reporter was pissing himself just to clarify the club has looked at the area as a possible relocation for a new ground no plans in place no jcb's or anything yet.
If and it's a big if this ever goes ahead, mr haddock will be long gone unless he's planning on living another 90 years if so I think il get myself a plot as for Charlie dimmock she's just jumping on the bandwagon and i am pretty sure the council would make provisions there's hundreds of places to stick some scruffy allotments, But only a few places for a new stadium that would benefit a lot more people.
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Doesn't take long for the misery's on here to spoil a thread having a laugh at a ridiculous story about mr haddock and co having a panic and declaring all out war against GTFC, I bet even the telegaph reporter was pissing himself just to clarify the club has looked at the area as a possible relocation for a new ground no plans in place no jcb's or anything yet.
If and it's a big if this ever goes ahead, mr haddock will be long gone unless he's planning on living another 90 years if so I think il get myself a plot as for Charlie dimmock she's just jumping on the bandwagon and i am pretty sure the council would make provisions there's hundreds of places to stick some scruffy allotments, But only a few places for a new stadium that would benefit a lot more people.


At the risk of losing my left wing misery label I have to agree with you (except for the bit about scruffy allotments). As for the club having to reach out to the allotment holders won't that be the job of N.E.Lincs council.
On a separate note I wonder whether any of them would be averse to being bought out? A real test for their green credentials when money is offered.  


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It's not a question about being a misery, it is about the reaction of some on here who belittle others who have a hobby that may affect the plans of the football club. It is then dressed up as having 'a larf'. I'm sure if a Hull City fan came on here tonight having a go at Town, saying what a shitty little club it was, a bunch of non-league no hopers, and then said it was just a laugh we'd all be splitting our sides.


And Barra I'm surprised; taking the side of private enterprise and the might of city hall over the little man?  


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We should go on the waiting list for allotments and gradually dilute the resistance to the new stadium.  Undermine from within. Surely we are a match for Mr Haddock and his cronies?
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haha Humberside Radio pretty much just quoted Aaron.
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It's not a question about being a misery, it is about the reaction of some on here who belittle others who have a hobby that may affect the plans of the football club. It is then dressed up as having 'a larf'. I'm sure if a Hull City fan came on here tonight having a go at Town, saying what a shitty little club it was, a bunch of non-league no hopers, and then said it was just a laugh we'd all be splitting our sides.


And Barra I'm surprised; taking the side of private enterprise and the might of city hall over the little man?  


Au contraire: I've been chased off allotments many times as a kid whilst trying to invoke a policy of true socialist beliefs by liberating some of the produce to share with those less fortunate i.e. me


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We should go on the waiting list for allotments and gradually dilute the resistance to the new stadium.  Undermine from within. Surely we are a match for Mr Haddock and his cronies?


I like it, we could poison the ground with a variety of weeds and no I do not mean digging a hole and leaving Aarron in it!  

As a tenant you do not have many rights as once notice is given the time has to be given to see it out.

Maybe the council and GTFC could offer to help with the running of a community garden centre, with allotments, so local gardners can sell their produce with their rental fee going into local charitable projects.

They need to include the gardners and show they want to provide a solution but will not except silly demands!.



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haha Humberside Radio pretty much just quoted Aaron.


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And it's given our friend Mr Mickleburgh yet another reason to write to the Telegraph asking how people who rely on buses will get to the ground if it's built there.  


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