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Maringer
July 19, 2012, 12:43pm
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applying a formation that totally negates the strengths of our best player is genius


But that doesn't quite explain how Hearn managed to score so many goals for Alfreton the other year, playing on the left of a 4-3-3?

I can see how 4-3-3 with Hearn and A.N. Other playing alongside Cook in the centre could perhaps work out well, but only if we have the players to work as a midfield 3.
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But that doesn't quite explain how Hearn managed to score so many goals for Alfreton the other year, playing on the left of a 4-3-3?


that's irrelevant, different team, different squad, different opposition

what we've seen at grimbsy is that there is nothing to suggest that hearn will thrive in such a formation
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Well, compared to last season, we're half way to being a different team with a different squad - we're quicker in the full-back positions and have more pace up front and in midfield with Cook, Pearson and Colbeck.

I'm not writing off 4-3-3 just yet as it would be good to have a few options as to how we can set the team up, depending on the opposition. Obviously, this is only useful if Hearn can be effective in our 4-3-3 so we'll have to see how things progress. There's no reason why Hearn can't do well in a 4-3-3 as we know he has a few tricks on the ball and can cause the opposition problems coming in from wide positions but we need to make sure he still gets good chances and isn't just doing leg-work in wide positions. I hope he's been practicing shooting with his left foot, too!

I'm looking forward to seeing how Cook performs as I'm hopeful he will prove to be the mobile physical presence we've lacked for the past couple of seasons.
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July 19, 2012, 6:10pm
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that's irrelevant, different team, different squad, different opposition

what we've seen at grimbsy is that there is nothing to suggest that hearn will thrive in such a formation


Yeah i said different team and players and i got ridiculed


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July 19, 2012, 7:26pm
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Not yet convinced or saying 4-3-3 will work but isn't part of the thinking that it's easier for attacking fullbacks to overlap a packed midfield in the centre ?
Kind of making the need for wingers redundant and effectively provide 2 extra bodies elsewhere ?

Though I do accept someone(defender or forward) needs to get to the byline (and the fullbacks may need to run back too) for it to work just as well.

Just seems to me it fits in with an attacking fullback philosophy.
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What is a "byline".
I think you mean goalline, so called because the goal sits on it.
If we are looking at 4-3-3 then in my opinion Cooke should be in the middle with Hearn out left and Pearson out right but a bit closer together so that the 2 out left and right can run onto Cooke's headers and therefore be in a position to ghost past the defenders and create chances, ( hopefully take them as well).
It certainly pays to have a plan A, B, C etc if it is not working or the opposition won't allow you to play preferred option.
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July 19, 2012, 9:25pm
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I'd prefer them to play closer together for sure - right now I don't want anyone way out on the touchline.  
I just wonder whether they might have to come wide to provide the outlet down the channels ?
Unless we're dominating possession in the middle with good passing perhaps.
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I always thought a front three and a midfield three in essence meant like Spain showed, a forward six. Admittedly Spains formation was almost weird but it showed all six are involved constantly in the attacking build up, plenty of movement across, deep and thrusting forward runs, the thing with 4-4-2 is that positions are almost set in stone, players are where they are meant to be and that's what makes it so predictable. A fluid 4-3-3/4-5-1/4-3-2-1/4-3-1-2 is the opposite and demands constant changing movement and interplay. Perhaps why it's so hard for teams used to nothing but a rigid 4-4-2 to adapt to it.


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If we do insist on playing 4-3-3 then I would like to see a team of:

                              Macca

Hatton.         S. Pearson.   Miler.       Thomas


                              Niven
                    Soares.       Thanoj


     Colbeck.              Hearn.           Cook


Bench: Centre Back, Wood, Disley, Artus, G. Pearson


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I'd like :

                                 Macca

Hatton           Miller           Pearson          Thomas
    |                                                                 |
    |                                                                 |  
    |    Colbeck            Niven            Artus       |
    |                                                                 |
    |                                                                 |  
    |         Elding/pearson      Hearn                 |
   \/                                                                \/
                              Cook



Subs - Elding/pearson, southwell, Disley, Wood, thanoj.  So far, until a new centre back, goalie and winger is bought in.


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