Match Thread v York

Quoted from HerveJosse

I think the clue was in the interview with the new chief exec two weeks into the job . Asked about the new training ground she basically said don’t know not up to speed with that . Chief exec doesn’t know about the the biggest investment project in clubs history through recruitment process and two weeks after starting means it ain’t happening . Simple.
I don’t blame the owners for that why pay £4m -£6m for a new training ground when you are struggling too put a competent squad of players together and have a ground that’s draining funds.
Never made any sense .
Just be honest about it.

So are you saying they are lying?  As for the new CEO, I would guess that after just 2 weeks in the job she has far more to do than finding out about the new Training facility, especially as nothing is happening with it atm due to legal issues.

Quoted from HerveJosse

I think the clue was in the interview with the new chief exec two weeks into the job . Asked about the new training ground she basically said don’t know not up to speed with that . Chief exec doesn’t know about the the biggest investment project in clubs history through recruitment process and two weeks after starting means it ain’t happening . Simple.
I don’t blame the owners for that why pay £4m -£6m for a new training ground when you are struggling too put a competent squad of players together and have a ground that’s draining funds.
Never made any sense .
Just be honest about it.

Bedwetting at its finest.

Andrew is leading the process with multiple external parties. Debbie when operating as Chief Exec did not lead that process. Confidential NDA information would not have been shared with a potential candidate for a role at the club no matter what role they were applying for. Just that a training ground is a priority, hence her answer was correct.

AP made his career in property development and property portfolios, hence why he leads it. The process is further along than most think but unlike the previous incumbent, they will not release information until everything is complete.

Quoted from HerveJosse

I think the clue was in the interview with the new chief exec two weeks into the job . Asked about the new training ground she basically said don’t know not up to speed with that . Chief exec doesn’t know about the the biggest investment project in clubs history through recruitment process and two weeks after starting means it ain’t happening . Simple.
I don’t blame the owners for that why pay £4m -£6m for a new training ground when you are struggling too put a competent squad of players together and have a ground that’s draining funds.
Never made any sense .
Just be honest about it.

Wow, what's going to happen when the first 11 not a "run out" squad loses a meaningful game?

Simply buying/selling your house can be a legal nightmare.
I imagine buying into a multi-acre site involves a massive involvement into deeds, covenants & planning issues etc.
I am happy to leave it to those who have experience in these matters.

There is no training ground even the chief executive knows nothing about it.
More hot air from the board like the new investors they where announcing 2 months ago, that’s never happened.
JS has stated he is not spending his inheritance so how is it being paid for.
If we didn’t waste over 250k on his stats lead approach we could of bought two decent players or a training ground.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Are these sites you mention available for purchase then? Huge stumbling block if not, you can’t just walk into a field shovel in hand.

Well you could......and you could also say we will be in the Championship in 5 yrs too...... but then if neither actually came off you would look a bit of a twerp. Haha

Quoted from diehardmariner

Quite certain that both of those spaces mentioned are used for farming.   I imagine that boosts the price on those (I don't even know if they are for sale) and then adds further complications to planning permission.  

I agree to an extent around the boundaries issue and community focus.  I think there's much more benefit to be had by having a community hub/base at the heart of either Cleethorpes or Grimsby to do exactly what is needed from a community perspective and then have a training ground that is focused on just the performance aspect of the football side of the club.  It feels limiting.

But as ska face points out, having those elements attached to it helps tick a lot of boxes that would help get things over the line.  It's probably the training ground equivalent of having a number of social housing properties on a new build estate.  

I think have extra elements makes the project undeliverable. Football training grounds are used 4 or 5 times a week (generally in the morning or early afternoon) for about 45 weeks of the year.

Add community usage makes it a 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year development.

The idea that the latter is more possible to deliver at a reasonable cost in a location in and around residential property with likely objections from local residents is for the birds. Would you want it on your doorstep. I wouldn’t.

Arable or pasture land currently goes for between £10,000 and £16,000 an acre. Lincoln City’s training ground is around 13 acres I believe. So what’s that? £130,000 to £200,000? Peanuts. There’s so little money in farming. That’s why so many solar farms are popping up across the country. Finding suitable land and a willing landowner would be the easy part.

Lincoln built their training ground for under £1.5m.

How much did our owners say ours would cost? £6m wasn’t it? And building costs have rocketed since they gave that figure.

Quoted from Yoda

There is no training ground even the chief executive knows nothing about it.
More hot air from the board like the new investors they where announcing 2 months ago, that’s never happened.
JS has stated he is not spending his inheritance so how is it being paid for.
If we didn’t waste over 250k on his stats lead approach we could of bought two decent players or a training ground.

What training ground do you think would cost 250k?! Would make Fenty’s new portakabins look luxurious.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I think have extra elements makes the project undeliverable. Football training grounds are used 4 or 5 times a week (generally in the morning or early afternoon) for about 45 weeks of the year.

Add community usage makes it a 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year development.

The idea that the latter is more possible to deliver at a reasonable cost in a location in and around residential property with likely objections from local residents is for the birds. Would you want it on your doorstep. I wouldn’t.

Arable or pasture land currently goes for between £10,000 and £16,000 an acre. Lincoln City’s training ground is around 13 acres I believe. So what’s that? £130,000 to £200,000? Peanuts. There’s so little money in farming. That’s why so many solar farms are popping up across the country. Finding suitable land and a willing landowner would be the easy part.

Lincoln built their training ground for under £1.5m.

How much did our owners say ours would cost? £6m wasn’t it? And building costs have rocketed since they gave that figure.

Initial costs might have been as per the figure quoted but my recollection had it nearer £2m plus they’ve had to spend significantly more since it initially opened due to flooding, high winds ( very open piece of land so needed protection) and pitch quality.

That said £6m always seemed a very high figure but we aren’t privy to what the club intended to include on the site.

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Initial costs might have been as per the figure quoted but my recollection had it nearer £2m plus they’ve had to spend significantly more since it initially opened due to flooding, high winds ( very open piece of land so needed protection) and pitch quality.

That said £6m always seemed a very high figure but we aren’t privy to what the club intended to include on the site.

If you want some sort of benchmark, Cambridge recently built this for £3.5m. Completed November 2023. Looks alright. Worth noting though that it’s essentially just a new modular building on land the club already owned. I can see £6m easily being the case for a full project from scratch, requiring the purchase of land.