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May 15, 2024, 6:01pm
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Premier league to vote whether  to scrap it
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Yet to see a single argument in favour of VAR from someone who isn’t a paedophile.
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Its ruined the flow of the game. Yes, we did benefit from it in the FA Cup, but overall its been an absolute ball-ache. For well over a hundred years goals were awarded, and offsides were given, just by utilising the eyes of the three men (and women) in black out there officiating.

That has been taken away to such an extent that VAR over-rules their decisions regularly, so why even have a referee and two line runners if what they see is questioned all the time.

It still works absolutely fine in the EFL and lower. Yes, mistakes are made, but that is the way football should be played, and refereed.

Lets hope the Premier League tell them to shove it where the sun is unlikely to penetrate any time soon.
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I thought this automatic version that is used in European competitions was happening next season.
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I thought this automatic version that is used in European competitions was happening next season.


The world cup system wasn't actually too bad... and then it's not been seen since.
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Pointless exercise really, it won’t get scrapped - don’t get your hopes up


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14 out of the 20 have to vote for it . That’s democratic. No chance it will be scrapped
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It won’t be scrapped as owners and television companies want it. The match going fan who has had all the joy sucked out of the game sadly no longer matters
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It won’t be scrapped as owners and television companies want it. The match going fan who has had all the joy sucked out of the game sadly no longer matters

Bad enough watching on the Telly as you wait for a decision and the best Footie Pundit in the world The Duchess of Caterham is  quick to voice her opinion  on VAR..let alone stood there on the terraces.




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VAR's fatal flaw is its intrinsic need to justify its own existence. Let's just think about that for a second; what don't people like about it?

1. It strips the game of its spontaneous joy. One of the greatest things about football, and what separates it from other, higher-scoring sports is that individual goals, individual moments, can mean so much, and VAR takes that joy away.

2. Through a by-product of over-officiating, it occasionally creates far bigger injustices than those it was designed to prevent (see Liverpool's disallowed goal at Spurs earlier in the season)

They're both pretty fundamental problems (the first one especially), and yet they're both relatively easily solved with a bit of lateral thinking. We know that goal line technology, in a vast majority of cases, works well because it's instantaneous. The ball goes all the way over the line, the ref gets buzzed and the goal gets given. No arguments. We saw from the World Cup 18 months ago that automated offsides work pretty well too, bypassing the kind of delays that so commonly disrupt top flight games at the moment. The technology exists, we're just not using it.

For the remainder of decisions, the PGMOL just needed to stop overthinking it. Forget this "clear and obvious error" bóllocks and focus on those rare, once or twice a season (per team) injustices that can be spotted in a matter of seconds, at full speed, that are simply unquestionable. In such a world, Will Puddy gets his yellow card at Wembley correctly converted into a red, but we probably don't get the first penalty at Southampton in the FA Cup. To be honest, I could live with that. It doesn't have to be perfect, perfection is an impossible goal, but I wouldn't have a problem with any system that improves the overall fairness of the game, overruling 99.9% of those categorically wrong decisions, with minimal disruption to the game itself. That's just not the system we've got, nor will we ever get it.

Quite simply, that's because VAR needs to micro-referee in order to justify its bloated team of video officials. VAR manually chiming in once or twice every 10 games or so just doesn't make commercial sense, and so you either have it in its current form, or you don't have it at all. And it looks as though the consensus may well be to not have it at all. Given the clumsiness of its execution over the last 5 years, and the stubbornness against making sensible adjustments, I think this was inevitable. The PGMOL only have themselves to blame.


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