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I ummed and ahhed over whether to post this here or in non-football, but not only did I think it was important to share, I do think this is relevant to the future of the club. This video has had the best part of a million views since it was uploaded a couple of weeks ago, and paints a very bleak picture of Grimsby / Cleethorpes. It’s certainly guilty of sensationalism and poverty porn in places (venture inside a derelict building and, yes, it’s probably going to be a bit rough; interview a homeless person and they’re probably not going to be having a great time if things), but I also felt a sense of poignancy seeing the state of places I remember as thriving as a kid growing up in the 80s and 90s, Freeman Street in particular. How do you go about fixing Grimsby? I’m tremendously proud of where I’m from, but I moved away from the area at 18 because I felt I had no prospects there, and regrettably it was probably the right decision. Things seem bleaker now than they did in 2003. In an ideal world, you fast forward 5 or 10 years and many of the areas that feature in this video have been revitalised with new amenities, good quality housing and, last but not least, a shiny new football stadium. But where does the necessary investment come from? It certainly won’t be Sunak and his fúcking Tory chums. https://youtu.be/AAQgngfpA2I?si=PiXBlcrOK9k2l0RAApologies if posted elsewhere.
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I think filmmakers can make a similar film about the majority of places in the UK if they focus on the worst parts.
Many places have a worse reputation than Grimsby, and in most of those lists you sometimes see in the National papers of the "worst places to live ", Grimsby doesn't even feature.
I would take it all with a dose of salt.
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The man going round the town talking to locals.
Did say the GRIMSBY people was very friendly and helpful even though they had nowt.
Unlike some places he had been to.
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I ummed and ahhed over whether to post this here or in non-football, but not only did I think it was important to share, I do think this is relevant to the future of the club. This video has had the best part of a million views since it was uploaded a couple of weeks ago, and paints a very bleak picture of Grimsby / Cleethorpes. It’s certainly guilty of sensationalism and poverty porn in places (venture inside a derelict building and, yes, it’s probably going to be a bit rough; interview a homeless person and they’re probably not going to be having a great time if things), but I also felt a sense of poignancy seeing the state of places I remember as thriving as a kid growing up in the 80s and 90s, Freeman Street in particular. How do you go about fixing Grimsby? I’m tremendously proud of where I’m from, but I moved away from the area at 18 because I felt I had no prospects there, and regrettably it was probably the right decision. Things seem bleaker now than they did in 2003. In an ideal world, you fast forward 5 or 10 years and many of the areas that feature in this video have been revitalised with new amenities, good quality housing and, last but not least, a shiny new football stadium. But where does the necessary investment come from? It certainly won’t be Sunak and his fúcking Tory chums. https://youtu.be/AAQgngfpA2I?si=PiXBlcrOK9k2l0RAApologies if posted elsewhere.
I've already posted it into a thread on non footy, so it's covered there too. It's sad to see the town as it is now, but take away the main reason for the existence of the place, as you see in many towns that have lost their main industry, then the outcome is inevitable, especially as successive governments are very London and the south east centric.
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I ummed and ahhed over whether to post this here or in non-football, but not only did I think it was important to share, I do think this is relevant to the future of the club. This video has had the best part of a million views since it was uploaded a couple of weeks ago, and paints a very bleak picture of Grimsby / Cleethorpes. It’s certainly guilty of sensationalism and poverty porn in places (venture inside a derelict building and, yes, it’s probably going to be a bit rough; interview a homeless person and they’re probably not going to be having a great time if things), but I also felt a sense of poignancy seeing the state of places I remember as thriving as a kid growing up in the 80s and 90s, Freeman Street in particular. How do you go about fixing Grimsby? I’m tremendously proud of where I’m from, but I moved away from the area at 18 because I felt I had no prospects there, and regrettably it was probably the right decision. Things seem bleaker now than they did in 2003. In an ideal world, you fast forward 5 or 10 years and many of the areas that feature in this video have been revitalised with new amenities, good quality housing and, last but not least, a shiny new football stadium. But where does the necessary investment come from? It certainly won’t be Sunak and his fúcking Tory chums.https://youtu.be/AAQgngfpA2I?si=PiXBlcrOK9k2l0RAApologies if posted elsewhere.
Gona get a lot better when the terrorist loving Socialist get in, just ask the Venezuelans. And ye should be on non football.
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I really don’t want to watch that video, but the guy on the screen you posted I actually saw on Saturday when I went to Replay Records - he wasn’t in there, obviously, but was wandering around freemo with a plaggy bag looking dodgy.
What drugs have done to this town is astonishing.
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Grimsby always gets lumped in with these povertyporn films, but there are places in London reeking of poverty much worse than Grimsby - but they never seem to get the sensationalism treatment.
I find these kinds of films pretty insulting to the people of these towns / cities. Its tough everywhere - some towns just seem to have lazy stereotypes attached to them.
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I moved away from Grimsby in 2004 but I come back to see my parents and watch the Mariners when I can.
I worked for a while in and around Pontefract & Castleford, visiting some of their poorest estates. A loss of industry, low employment numbers, drugs... the challenges are very similar and very relatable.
However, I've met some of the nicest people in those towns. They haven't got much but they'll share what they have. They used to turn every 'friendly' five-a-side kick-about into a violent game of rugby league, but they were on the whole a bunch of honest and genuine people.
There are far more snakes and selfish people in wealthier communities. In fact, the wealthier people get, the more selfish they seem to become.
As the cost of living spirals, and food banks continue to exist, it's no wonder people turn to crime and forms of escapism because they're not getting the help they need.
Billions of pounds went to the wrong people during the pandemic. Imagine if they'd clawed even a fifth of it back, and distributed it properly through their so-called levelling up scheme.
They didn't, they haven't. They won the seat in Grimsby, they've left us to rot.
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No denying there's some real poverty in the area but intercourse me if that's the worst he's ever seen I would be curious to know what his comparison areas are, Knightsbridge and Sandbanks?
Probably annoyed me more than it should that he couldn't distinguish between Grimsby and Cleethorpes, even though he made note of the fact they're different places halfway through. Anyway, minor point. I think a lot of what he says is bang on and the area has been let down, nationally and locally.
I've given up on getting some big investment into the Town, it won't come. I hate to say it but we're forgotten about and the sooner we accept that the better. What the area could do though is start fending for itself and working with what it's got. You don't need billions of pounds to think for yourself and do things off your own back. Iteration after iteration of the local council have done intercourse all for the area other than applaud each other. The people themselves need to start recognising their role to play too. If they want change, go make it happen rather than wait for it.
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We need to decentralise ourselves from this crap government and set up a Republic of Grimsby and manage ourselves.
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Problem is its been a long decline....the loss of the fishing industry was somewhat backed up by the Humber Bank industries, then the food town industry .....all have slowly dwindled to be replaced by little else. Forget working class, there is a benefits class. A whole generation with a sense of entitlement that they are owed a house, money aid despite never paying anything into the pot themselves. Had an encounter a couple of weeks ago, a family have set up "home" on a greenspace in a large tent, young pregnant girl amongst them, when they were advised they would have to move on they said "that's fine the council will have to give us a house then"...didn't even blink.
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And the council have got millions to spend/allocate currently through the High Street/ Town deal monies that were allocated.....so far a new bridge across the Freshney, taken over Freshney place and just about to start a youth centre...... Not sure how any of those are actually going to create the new jobs to give the hard up the money to spend to kick-start the local economy but hey....pretty sure when they first announced it all there was talk of jobs being created and housing provision but that seems to have fallen off the package.
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l Forget working class, there is a benefits class. A whole generation with a sense of entitlement that they are owed a house, money aid despite never paying anything into the pot themselves.
Yeah, baby boomers they’re called.
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Forget working class, there is a benefits class. A whole generation with a sense of entitlement that they are owed a house, money aid despite never paying anything into the pot themselves.
Forget the working and benefits class, there is a whole super rich class. A whole generation with a sense of entitlement that they are owed a seat in the House of Lords, legal aid to concoct an implausible but successful defence, despite never paying anything into the UK pot themselves.
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Forget the working and benefits class, there is a whole super rich class.
A whole generation with a sense of entitlement that they are owed a seat in the House of Lords, legal aid to concoct an implausible but successful defence, despite never paying anything into the UK pot themselves.
Very true too.
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Gona get a lot better when the terrorist loving Socialist get in, just ask the Venezuelans. And ye should be on non football.
Tell me. What are the great things that Lia Nici and the Tories have done for you and your family that’s so amazing? They’ve been in power 13 years. Describing Starmer and associates as socialists is a bit comical too TBH. Xx
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Being from Airdrie in Scotland my first visit to Grimsby was as a teenager in 1980 also the first ever Grimsby Town game, my last vist was May this year and things have changed in this time however there are many places in Scotland with the same social issues alcohol and drug issues.
Grimsby and Cleethorpes people have always been friendly and good people in my experience.
In life its the friends you make the people that matter.
GTFC should be proud of the people who support the team my family and I look forward to our next visit.
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Same everywhere, where I live in South wales I've seen far worse.
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Billions of pounds went to the wrong people during the pandemic. Imagine if they'd clawed even a fifth of it back, and distributed it properly through their so-called levelling up scheme.
They didn't, they haven't. They won the seat in Grimsby, they've left us to rot.
Until we have a set of MPS that actually care about the population of this country nothing will change the people care but People in power Don't Levelling up is a joke Just look around you nearly every Town/City is run down lacks investment and has plenty of people on low wages and no prospects ask yourself why ? I left GY in 1978.
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