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https://twitter.com/jimcgreenthis guy's worth following at the moment. Chester director, so obviously in the know, and happy to put stuff out there
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Irrespective of what happens now, it is a sad indictment of our Club that we are hoping the NL stops as the best option to save our bacon.
Indeed.
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https://twitter.com/Ollie_Bayliss/status/1354424178703790084?s=19Grants can be applied for but note if their 'imminent' future is insecure. Think that is the key word as teams more concerned about long term future of paying back loans. So no blanket grants but clubs may get something if they can prove imminent risks. No idea what this means now.
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Good summary of where we are from Yeovil Facebook page National League Season Hanging By A Thread Crunch time is here, and unless the National League can persuade DCMS to convert the proffered £11 million loan into a grant in the next day or so it is set to ask its member clubs to vote on whether to terminate the season. Now this may partly be a tactic; an attempt to encourage backbench MPs (a number whom have already lobbied the minister on behalf of their local club) to continue ratcheting up the pressure to get DCMS to change its terms. But it is also inevitable that, if it does not, the question of ending the season will have to be put to the vote - and the outcome of that vote is close to certain. North and South will definitely pull the plug; and only a small number of Premier clubs have even hinted so far they might be prepared to consider continuing just on loans. The National League is now preparing for that ballot - obviously while hoping it will not be needed. There is a major problem with the likelihood of DCMS U-turning, and so far it has given no indication that it is prepared to. Although - and journalist Ollie Bayliss has put in a Freedom of Information Act request for all the agendas and minutes of meetings, correspondence, and internal e-mails between and within DCMS and the National League - the details of the terms of the agreement have not yet been made public, DCMS is so far sticking to the line that loans is what was always on the table and that's what the National League executive agreed to. If this is indeed the case, whether through gullibility, incompetence or simple sheer stupidity, the executive is in a weak position to argue for a renegotiation now. There has been a suggestion that the terms "loans" and "grants" were not being used back in the autumn discussions, only the word "funding". If that is backed up by what emerges from the FIA request it may give the NL a bit of leverage. Though does beg the question why, as the supplicant for money, it didn't get clarification; and appears to have done nothing in the months that followed to clarify the situation either. A further concern is whether, as more emerges, MPs will be quite as forthcoming in lobbying if it turns out the NL executive has been a bit economical with its interpretation of events. For example, Helen Grant, a former Minister for Sport and Tourism, had appeared sympathetic, and was one of those lobbying and writing a letter to DCMS on behalf of a local club, in her case Maidstone United. However today in parliament she appeared to have greater concerns about the competence of the National League Board, referring to its distribution of the National Lottery funding as "flawed" and a "botch". Few MPs are likely to be particularly enthusiastic about nailing their colours to any mast of perceived NLB incompetence.
It sounds like the NLB is as incompetent as the FL and FA. Really the whole of football governance in this country is a shambles and needs a complete overhaul.
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DCMS have confirmed it's loans not grants.
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The "if loans are unaffordable" line seems a bit of a shitter really doesn't it?
The league or the clubs will be able to afford the loans if terms are 'generous' enough but it'll laden them with debt forever and/or significantly reduce future income. Either way, it's keeping the immediate wolf at bay from the front door, knowing full well there's a pack of them out back and you can't afford to repair your fence for a long time.
Don't in the slightest blame any club for not wanting to take on the loans, be it themselves or the league.
Trying to take the GTFC selfish factor out of this, it still seems the most sensible approach to mothball the non-league season, protect those involved and then prosper when we're back to normality. It's easy to say now (again, not trying to factor our own plight into this) but in six months or so time, the non-league scene should be buzzing. People will be desperate to get back to games but you have to hope that those who would previously opt for the armchair viewing will be absolutely bored shitless with wall-to-wall Premier League drabfests and opt for live entertainment.
This all said, if we were riding high in the Conference now and the season looked like it was going to stop, I would be fuming.
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I don't really see what's changed from yesterday? Just confirmation that if you're a NL club and you're concerned about how much money is going out compared to what's coming in, you'll be able to get a loan.
I guess the only new bit of information is the 'means-tested' grant, which is ambiguous.
Let's say, for argument's sake, Boreham Wood (currently outside the play-offs) applied for a grant and got one. Let's also say that Altrincham — currently in the play-offs and proud of running a frugal operation — drop out of the play-offs.
Boreham Wood win promotion via the play-offs, seemingly with the help of that grant, while Altrincham cut their cloth accordingly (that old chestnut) and fell short, when a little more money could've made a difference.
I dunno, it's all murky. It's almost like it's being made up as it goes along.
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Looks to me like there will be financial help........which means we need to start winning.
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We need to win indeed, NL folding won’t happen.
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Not so sure yet . There was a big row between the clubs and NL board over the way the previous grant was shared . There’s not a lot of love between them or confidence that the board are competent. I think this is a long way from sorted out .
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