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I'm baffled by this talk of Mr Wheatley saying they are trying to push Town toward Freeman Street, when a Telegraph article as recent as April said totally the opposite. https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-town-stadium-freeman-street-1463482Unless the issue is about how much land GTFC are requiring for the development, and scaling it down would make it feasible at the Freemo site? All we do know is that the two sides, namely the GTFC board and the Council seem to be singing from a different song sheet.
As someone who has worked both with and against Councillor Wheatley I think you right to be baffled. The Council were the ones who offered the Peaks Parkway land to the club in the first place thereby resurrecting the whole issue (to the good I might add). All I've seen that suggests a change of heart was when the Labour candidate for Park Ward in the recent local elections pledged to fight against a stadium in a site that the ruling Labour administration had offered. A stand point that judging by his subsequent failure to get elected I wasn't alone in being incredulous about. There is a titanic local political struggle going on at the moment between the incumbent Labour Party and a resurgent Conservative Party who came within 42 votes of having an equal number of councillors on NEL council recently. To a certain extent GTFC (the club not the hierarchy) and its fans are victims of this struggle. Councillor Wheatley represents Labour and Councillor Fenty doesn't. I'm not saying nothing has been said in relation to GTFC being moved to Freemo but the scope that Councillor Wheatley has for political point scoring on this issue is enormous and judging by some of the posts in this thread it has fallen on fertile ground.
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As someone who has worked both with and against Councillor Wheatley I think you right to be baffled. The Council were the ones who offered the Peaks Parkway land to the council in the first place thereby resurrecting the whole issue (to the good I might add). All I've seen that suggests a change of heart was when the Labour candidate for Park Ward in the recent local elections pledged to fight against a stadium in a site that the ruling Labour administration had offered. A stand point that judging by his subsequent failure to get elected I wasn't alone in being incredulous about. There is a titanic local political struggle going on at the moment between the incumbent Labour Party and a resurgent Conservative Party who came within 42 votes of having an equal number of councillors on NEL council recently. To a certain extent GTFC (the club not the hierarchy) and its fans are victims of this struggle. Councillor Wheatley represents Labour and Councillor Fenty doesn't. I'm not saying nothing has been said in relation to GTFC being moved to Freemo but the scope that Councillor Wheatley has for political point scoring on this issue is enormous and judging by some of the posts in this thread it has fallen on fertile ground.
And this is why despite it being the chosen location for many we should not get involved with politicians
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barralad |
September 9, 2018, 7:24pm |
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And this is why despite it being the chosen location for many we should not get involved with politicians
Sadly local government rules dictate that it is impossible to implement any major building/infrastructure changes without involving local government.
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September 9, 2018, 7:34pm |
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Sadly local government rules dictate that it is impossible to implement any major building/infrastructure changes without involving local government.
Yes I get that, but if your funding depends on a politician being your partner it will be a painful process. First and foremost these people are politicians!
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September 9, 2018, 9:33pm |
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I agree. It is imperative that Fenty has nothing to do with the new stadium. Can you imagine it - a half baked, cheap as chips fudge - unless someone else is paying of course, and even then if he had anything to do with it it would be a disaster.
I'm sure I saw the for sale down the prom a couple of weeks ago.
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September 9, 2018, 9:36pm |
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Yeah, i alluded to that in my post. I was under the impression that PP was arrived at by all parties, but that is now looking not to be the case. One has to wonder why the club are so stuck on PP, if the council are saying that Freemo is a possibility? I have my theories on why that might be, but i will keep them to myself.
Things change.That was what 3 years ago? Before the towers came down, and while there was a twinkle of a hope there'd be enough money in 'enabling development' to fund enough of the stadium to make it sustainable for the club. That's not to say there isn't political capital to be made out of the new situation.
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September 9, 2018, 11:00pm |
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Is'nt the issue with Freeman street that the sheer number of different land owners make it unfeasible, while the Parkway only has one landowner therefore making it a much easier and thereby realistic proposal?
That's why I voted Peaks Parkway. Are the Council suggesting Council owned land, similar to Peaks Parkway around Freeman Street may become available then? If that's the case, I'd prefer Freemo. Though the enabling development may be an issue, there won't be too much room to build houses / retail outlets will there?
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I might go if it's in Ipswich Pete but given the crap they are dishing up at the moment I wouldn't go as far as Bury St Edmunds to see them (seriously will I see you at Cambridge and Colchester mate? Although Colchester is Good Friday we could be down by then))
I will see you at Cambridge Swin but it depends when I have my other knee replaced it could be around Easter so will let you know nearer the time mate.
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Would there be enough room for adequate parking at any Freeman Street site? If not we'd just be spending millions on moving many of the match day issues a few hundred yards down the road.
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September 10, 2018, 3:01pm |
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Would there be enough room for adequate parking at any Freeman Street site? If not we'd just be spending millions on moving many of the match day issues a few hundred yards down the road.
I'm fairly sure that if it were to go ahead a solution will have been found for this.
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