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I don't see you suggesting that Muslims who would rather act under Sharia Law than accept UK Law should intercourse off and live somewhere else.
Where are these Muslims wanting Sharia Law in Britain?
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Where are these Muslims wanting Sharia Law in Britain?
Where ever there is a Muslim community, 23% of of UK muslims want sharia law according to a channel 4 poll.... just to stress channel 4!!! So in reality the number must be even greater.
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I suspect that little anecdote came from the same source as the picture of Muslims praying in Cairo that was claimed to be the masses attending the pro-Trump rally which appeared on my social media this morning.
I walk the walk pal I was there! and I’ll tell you another thing at the Trump rally we were served up with warning notices from the police that if we were planning to leave the event to attend the free speech rally a few miles away then we would have to leave the Trump rally individually, anyone in a group of more than two could face arrest, these were good people no thugs or hooligans many elderly people there just to show there support for the president, I asked a police officer if they issued similar warnings to the lefties yesterday and he honestly just looked embarrassed to be even issuing the leaflets.
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I don't see you suggesting that Muslims who would rather act under Sharia Law than accept UK Law should intercourse off and live somewhere else.
They can want what they like. I want the queen on the guillotine, the abolishment of monarchy and the requisition of all their Ill-gotten gains, but the reality is something quite different. What I want is irrelevant. Muslims in the country who want to live under sharia law are free to want that, as long as they accept that they live under the laws of UK and will be punished suitably should they break those laws. Your hero Stephen Yaxley Lennon appears to think that this country’s laws don’t apply to him. That’s why he’s in jail. Again. If he doesn’t like it, he can go elsewhere (but not America, because they’ve banned him for trying to illegally enter their country). Maybe the people who fund him at the Middle East Forum, who pay his legal fees (despite all the other fundraisers...where’s that money going?) and who fund events like yesterday’s propaganda festival, would like to rehome him.
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We must have, collectively, the most seriously deranged uber right nutcases on any football forum in the UK?
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We must have, collectively, the most seriously deranged uber right nutcases on any football forum in the UK?
I thought you were better than this Jock, I’m suprised that you had to resort to childish insults without any reasoning! how about come on a forum and actually having a debate with those of a different opinion.
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Looking forward to seeing you march about this lot, lads... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44873178I’ll not hold my breath.
Why would anyone march? These scumbags have been banged away job done although not long enough in my opinion. I don’t buy the establishment view that far right is on the rise absolute BS. The likes of th BNP and the NF have virtually been eradicated and rightly so, although I can accept there’s will be a few twisted head cases laying dormant waiting for the day of reckoning but they will have hell of a long wait. Now if we look to the far left with the antifa terrorists supported by the likes of the looney left momentum well very little gets reported or condemned, they mob up with their faces covered with many carrying weapons and their aim is to intimidate and close down free speech with violence if necessary, absolute fascism in every sense.
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Anti-fascists are the real fascists? Christ Interesting to see you disagree with the establishment view that the far right is on the rise, but the facts show your opinion to be garbage. 2 years ago an MP was shot in the head and stabbed to death in the streets by a far-right terrorist. But for one racist's bottom going, as described in the link above, another MP would've been killed with a machete and potentially a policewoman too (who happened to be investigating the terrorist for child grooming, the far right have a thing for that...). Last year another far-right terrorist murdered a man outside a mosque in Finsbury Park and attempted to murder tens more only because he couldn't get close enough to Sadiq Khan or Jeremy Corbyn. Last year 28 far-right terrorists were arrested or convicted of terrorist offences, and 4 right-wing terrorist plots were thwarted by security services. The number of people referred to the Prevent counter-terrorism programme increased by 28% for extreme right-wing individuals between 2017 and 2018. Mark Rowley, the former head of counter terrorism police in the UK has spoken about the influence that Tommy Robinson has had on right wing extremism...I suppose he's the establishment when talking about Yaxley-Lennon though, eh? The NF might not be as visible as they once were (despite them holding demonstrations up and down the country most weeks, still, including one in Grimsby last year), but they've been replaced by this current movement of "I'm not racist, but..." groups which have seen the biggest right-wing marches in generations. Of course you'll say that they're not right-wing, that's the usual line, but how else would you describe their actions? Seig-heilling, attacking muslims, assaulting trade unionists, attacking the police, kicking police horses - you said you "walk the walk", you must be happy to associate with these people? If not, what have you done to prevent it? Perhaps that community need to get their house in order, where's the condemnation? What are the elders doing? Perhaps they should be interned? [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/df9bf1orz/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/ph4p975q7/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/rlp2aaf2n/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/mn1jvrqpb/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/kv8l0uzmn/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/iqo7zt8an/image.jpg[/img] History will look back at this lot in the same way that Oswald Moseley's blackshirts are remembered, and rightly so.
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Anti-fascists are the real fascists? Christ
Smell the coffee that’s the point🙄 it’s like me saying I’m anti-socialist.
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Interesting to see you disagree with the establishment view that the far right is on the rise, but the facts show your opinion to be garbage. 2 years ago an MP was shot in the head and stabbed to death in the streets by a far-right terrorist. But for one racist's bottom going, as described in the link above, another MP would've been killed with a machete and potentially a policewoman too (who happened to be investigating the terrorist for child grooming, the far right have a thing for that...). Last year another far-right terrorist murdered a man outside a mosque in Finsbury Park and attempted to murder tens more only because he couldn't get close enough to Sadiq Khan or Jeremy Corbyn. Last year 28 far-right terrorists were arrested or convicted of terrorist offences, and 4 right-wing terrorist plots were thwarted by security services. The number of people referred to the Prevent counter-terrorism programme increased by 28% for extreme right-wing individuals between 2017 and 2018. Mark Rowley, the former head of counter terrorism police in the UK has spoken about the influence that Tommy Robinson has had on right wing extremism...I suppose he's the establishment when talking about Yaxley-Lennon though, eh?
2 extreme right wing nut cases who have killed in how many years? (not affiliated with any far right groups by the way) doe not mean the far right is on the rise the, even the guardian admit support/ membership for far right groups is at an all time low, but then again I’d imagine you’d class UKIP as being far right 😆 I would love to see the individual case facts to your statistics as I don’t class people who learn to make their dog to seig- heil as a joke to be extreme right wing, or even school kids with UKIP leaflets, they will stick you on prevent for owning a golliwog these days. ( I’ve got 2 don’t report me😂)
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The NF might not be as visible as they once were (despite them holding demonstrations up and down the country most weeks, still, including one in Grimsby last year), but they've been replaced by this current movement of "I'm not racist, but..." groups which have seen the biggest right-wing marches in generations. Of course you'll say that they're not right-wing, that's the usual line, but how else would you describe their actions? Seig-heilling, attacking muslims, assaulting trade unionists, attacking the police, kicking police horses - you said you "walk the walk", you must be happy to associate with these people? If not, what have you done to prevent it? Perhaps that community need to get their house in order, where's the condemnation? What are the elders doing? Perhaps they should be interned?
NF in Grimsby? Did the telegraph do a report on this I must of missed that one. Look you will always get morons attach themselves to left and right wing groups, but I think I speak for both sides when I say they are a the small minority, the people I met especially at the Trump march was a fantastic mix of good people - old, young, black, white, Asian, no idiots in sight, admittedly there were a few idiots at the freedom march but again the minority, the only real trouble came when a guy wearing a communist t shirt stood up in the middle of the crowd hurling obscenity’s but like I said idiots on both side. [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/df9bf1orz/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/ph4p975q7/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/rlp2aaf2n/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/mn1jvrqpb/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/kv8l0uzmn/image.jpg[/img] [img]https://s33.postimg.cc/iqo7zt8an/image.jpg[/img] History will look back at this lot in the same way that Oswald Moseley's blackshirts are remembered, and rightly so.[/quote]
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