England

Quoted from Hagrid

Germans 3-0 up already against Norway

The Germans have only ever lost 2 World Cup qualifiers. Quite staggering.

I'm with you Chaos, don't really give a toss anymore but to be fair that was a pretty professional display second half and another very well taken goal. Not sure how good Slovakia are though. Not very I would suggest.

Quoted from Gaffer58

Not being a football expert, (I only whatch division 4 football) can someone please explain how Jordan Henderson gets into the England team, or are we just that short of half decent Englishmen.

Phil Neville said Henderson was man of the match

It has always confused my mates at school that when asked would I rather see Town promoted this season or England win the world cup I always say I'd rather have Town promoted 100% without hesitation and that I'd rather see us in the lower leagues with proper fans and for all his faults an owner who loves the club rather than be owned by a Russian billionaire to get into the Premier League.

Good performance against a decent team. We are no world beaters obviously but will qualify with ease.

Quoted from ginnywings

The Germans have only ever lost 2 World Cup qualifiers. Quite staggering.

Germany  1-5  England  

We were better second half and pressed much higher. Good goal by Rashford, who is the only England player who doesn't look over coached.

Enjoyed that but we still won't trouble the later stages of the tournament when we get there.

We've played OK in general tonight, but it says a lot that we've basically just sat back and defended for the final 20 minutes. It's all very well saying we were managing the game well, but can you imagine the likes of Germany or Spain not scoring at least one or two goals from the counter-attacking chances we've butchered tonight to make it comfortable?

The style of play seems to be to get it forward to Kane and Alli and then hope that they can do something with it. Full-backs barely involved in their half tonight and too many poor passes in attacking areas.

Midfield still the weakest area. Dier and Henderson are both OK players, but how many teams play with two big, not particularly nippy defensive midfielders at international level? Too cumbersome playing it through that area.

You'd expect us to qualify and perhaps get through the group stage in Russia bit any further than that? Can't see it happening.

Quoted from Mariner_09

It's ridiculous that because transfer fees are so high in the Premier League that the people who only watch that rubbish believe that it represents the quality of the players in it. Everyone is blind to the fact that we are hubristic about our top league and that Barca, Bayern, Real, Athletico, PSG, Monaco, Dortmund, Juve etc are far superior to any of our teams at all aspects of the game. Nothing to do with a lack of a winter break or the intensity of the Premier League but that those clubs always have a core of players who have developed through their own youth system or have at very least 2/3rds of their team are from the nation of the club itself. Players play more and develop faster rather than all our clubs paying extortionate amounts of money for some bloke you've never heard of and just because he cost £30m means we assume he's unbelievably good because of the cost.

Rant over

PSG's pushing it!

I'd say that they've knocked Chelsea out on 2 of the past 3 seasons so they are better than our lot. You get my drift regardless