|
TheRonRaffertyFanClub |
|
Posts: 7,638
Posts Per Day: 1.34
Reputation: 79.65%
Rep Score: +43 / -11
Location: Norfolk
Approval: +8,658
Gold Stars: 23
|
Fleetwood were in the North West Premier when Andy Pilley took over about thirteen years ago. He's bankrolled them to about eight promotions since.
FGR were at least an established Conference side by the time Vince took over, Pilley just used his vast resources far better than Vince has.
If a team has won enough games to be promoted it deserves their place in the ladder, equally so if a team loses enough games it deserves to go down - irrespective of size, population and history. If we're going down this path we might as well just look at a list of the best populated cities and towns in the country each weekend and not bother with the charade of a season at all. Surely the appeal of football is the fact that it's 11 v 11 come game day and whilst resources (including fanbase) have an impact, it's what happens in the 90 minutes that count really?
Yes we can say that. We relish the David v Goliath games don't we? The question is more about origins I think. Clubs that are traditional have their roots in a community and it is basically that community that gives rise to the club and winds it up through the leagues. So yes, we can say FGR had a tiny club community base and deserved the plaudits for reaching what we might call the acme of its development - promotion to the 5th tier. We could say much the same about Fleetwood who only gained a sugar daddy when he couldn't get Blackpool. From there on, the story changes and has more in common with MK Dons. Both Fleetwood and FGR are effectively franchises. There is a thin line between the Walkers of Blackburn, the Haywards of Wolves, the Fentys of Grimsby and these two backers but I think it is there and quite distinctly. These blokes don't love the club or the community, they are in love with the idea of adulation for somehow producing a miracle from nothing.
|
| “If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.” ― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty." |
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
psgmariner |
|
Posts: 10,122
Posts Per Day: 1.69
Reputation: 73.33%
Rep Score: +39 / -15
Approval: +5,480
Gold Stars: 33
|
Wrexham now have the dubious honour of being in the Conference the longest. Poor buggers.
I find it hard to dislike FGR that much. All clubs overspend including our own. I also don't like the idea that attendances should dictate your place in the pyramid.
|
| |
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
FishOutOfWater |
|
Barley Wine Drinker
Posts: 12,834
Posts Per Day: 2.14
Reputation: 87.01%
Rep Score: +52 / -7
Location: Goole
Approval: +6,578
Gold Stars: 37
|
Saw that Hagrid and it annoyed me too. Can't stand that guy - hopefully he'll be about as accurate as he was with his promise to be champions this year.
He also vowed to his bride " 'til death us do part" ....look how that came back to bite him!!
|
|
|
|
|
HackneyHaddock |
|
Fine Wine Drinker
Posts: 1,367
Posts Per Day: 0.34
Reputation: 89.49%
Rep Score: +17 / -1
Approval: +3,619
Gold Stars: 1
|
Hope they get Leeds in one of the cups now that would really test the capabilities of both the ground and the stewards
If that happened, Stale Mince would be getting his ground handed back to him in a skip.
|
|
|
|
|
KingstonMariner |
|
Meths Drinker
Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.03
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
If that happened, Stale Mince would be getting his ground handed back to him in a skip.
Remembering what happened when we played them in 82 and what happened to the Findus, he should invite Leeds down for the last match at the New Lawn. Save a fortune on dismantling costs.
|
| Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
codcheeky |
|
Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,960
Posts Per Day: 0.38
Reputation: 83.82%
Rep Score: +23 / -4
Approval: +1,261
Gold Stars: 31
|
Well done to them, they deserve it, I always enjoy going there, don't really understand the bitterness
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
Jaws |
|
Table Wine Drinker
Posts: 833
Posts Per Day: 0.24
Reputation: 74.7%
Rep Score: +7 / -3
Approval: +1,306
Gold Stars: 11
|
Hopefully they'll be straight back down
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
wigworld |
|
Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 3,126
Posts Per Day: 0.58
Reputation: 89.01%
Rep Score: +32 / -3
Approval: +2,080
Gold Stars: 29
|
Well done to them, they deserve it, I always enjoy going there, don't really understand the bitterness
One of the pleasures of promotion was we'd get a good few away supporters in the away end, for a better atmosphere and more money in the till at BP. At least Hartlepool and Orient brought a few.
|
|
|
|
|
Civvy at last |
|
Posts: 11,475
Posts Per Day: 2.03
Reputation: 74.47%
Rep Score: +36 / -13
Approval: +12,238
Gold Stars: 135
|
One of the pleasures of promotion was we'd get a good few away supporters in the away end, for a better atmosphere and more money in the till at BP. At least Hartlepool and Orient brought a few.
If we can get the gimps at home before their bubble bursts they might just actually make up for that !!!!
|
| The wife was going away for a girly weekend. I jokingly remarked 'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football' 'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked She said 'Well you already know how to play football' |
|
|
|
|
TheCodfather1966 |
|
Lager Top Drinker
Posts: 221
Posts Per Day: 0.07
Reputation: 81.19%
Rep Score: +5 / -1
Approval: -633
|
Excellent post by Heppy, totally agree with your sentiments. Dale Vince is a man of high integrity, morals and values. Is that a reason to attack FGR as a football club..... He is passionate about animals, wildlife,and the environment, but hang on, in Grimsby fans eyes that makes him some kind of freak does it...... for actually caring about the planet. Like the original poster, I fully welcome FGR into league football, the attitude of a lot of Grimsby fans on here is pathetic. I would swap our Chairman for Dale Vince in a heartbeat.
UTM
|
|
|
|
|