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Grim74
April 26, 2016, 2:58pm
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You can't have lived very long considering George W Bush came before him.


Ask the average American and you will probably be told that the useless youth club leader has been a total disaster with crime rates, welfare and unemployment all on the up since he took office, and as for the national debt well it's doubled!




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A lot of that debt has been accrued paying for Bush's wars, and pursuing a stimulus package to push the yanks out of Bush's recession


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And don't forget he's the only person to have been able to drive through a healthcare package that is anything like a NHS. Given the way powers are balanced by the US constitution that's a heck of an achievement.

In decades to come it'll be that that gets remembered.


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And don't forget he's the only person to have been able to drive through a healthcare package that is anything like a NHS. Given the way powers are balanced by the US constitution that's a heck of an achievement.

In decades to come it'll be that that gets remembered.


Barack will also be remembered as a hypocrite telling UK voters that we'll be back of the queue if we vote to leave the EU, when the US would never give away the governance we have.

Do as I say, not as I do.


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Barack will also be remembered as a hypocrite telling UK voters that we'll be back of the queue if we vote to leave the EU, when the US would never give away the governance we have.

Do as I say, not as I do.


He will be remembered as the anti British president who achieved nothing, the president who blamed terrorism on climate change, the president who couldn't utter the words 'radical islamic terrorism' the president who was supposed to improve the lives of working class African Americans that now find themselves in a racial division at an all time high.


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Surely if we are going to be back of the Q regarding trade agreements if we vote to opt out, America should be at the back of our Q regarding US air force bases etc within the UK, yes I know there`s NATO within the equation.
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Barack will also be remembered as a hypocrite telling UK voters that we'll be back of the queue if we vote to leave the EU, when the US would never give away the governance we have.

Do as I say, not as I do.


Yes they do, the clue's in the name - United States. Once upon a time America was a bunch of loosley connected states that joined together into a single economic and political entity, each retaining its own local juristiction. Sound familiar? Play the tape forward and the USA now's what the EU will be like in a few decades time. It might even be called the USE.


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Barack will also be remembered as a hypocrite telling UK voters that we'll be back of the queue if we vote to leave the EU, when the US would never give away the governance we have.

Do as I say, not as I do.


All Obama did was point out the fact that America is shrewd enough to work out that their need  to maximise their trade will mean that their efforts will go into securing a deal with a trading bloc rather than a single country. The fact that he's had some stick from the Leave campaign suggests that they are worried.
Why put this country in the position of having to negotiate a separate agreement when we already are on the verge of one with the E.U. with no guarantee we could get a better one?
If Obama's intervention is deemed to be sticking his nose in can we expect equal condemnation of the anti E.U Marine Le Pen who is coming to bolster the out campaign?


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All Obama did was point out the fact that America is shrewd enough to work out that their need  to maximise their trade will mean that their efforts will go into securing a deal with a trading bloc rather than a single country. The fact that he's had some stick from the Leave campaign suggests that they are worried.
Why put this country in the position of having to negotiate a separate agreement when we already are on the verge of one with the E.U. with no guarantee we could get a better one?
If Obama's intervention is deemed to be sticking his nose in can we expect equal condemnation of the anti E.U Marine Le Pen who is coming to bolster the out campaign?

You have a valid point the INS and OUTS are all bringing the big hitters to play and non of them are British so should keep their beaks out.Personally I fail to see what difference it will make to my daily life in or out BUT I am prepared to risk an OUT vote cos I cant see how things could possibly be any worse? If the Russians decide to nuke us cos were on our own you only have to look at History to see we never got much help from the rest of Europe anyhow and the Yanks held back til they had Pearl Harbour.
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Barrack Obama worst president in living memory.


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