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BrickTop	July 20, 2015, 6:26am
Snakebite drinker Posts: 383 Posts Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 76.57% Rep Score: +2 / -1 Approval: +231	Our batting top order is definitely in need of a shake up. There just doesn't seem to be any confidence. Stokes can't always come in and save the day when we've lost 5 wickets already. Add to that, if stokes had of been caught in the first test, which he should, that could have ended a whole lot differently. "You take sugar?" "No thank you turkish, I'm sweet enough"
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BIGChris	July 20, 2015, 8:15pm
Season Ticket Holder Posts: 11,800 Posts Per Day: 1.96 Reputation: 74.94% Rep Score: +70 / -24 Approval: +2,654 Gold Stars: 6	Read lots of comments that 3,4 or even 5 players should be dropped after Lords! That would be fine if we had a string of candidates waiting to step in to face, not a county championship attack, but currently probably the best side in the world. A reshuffle may help but in my view only Ballance is cert to go. Who comes in Bairstow? Possibly but certainly not at 3. Does Bell move up or Root? Would Hales be the best addition either at 1 or 3? Nick Compton? Not an easy selection meeting
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Rodley Mariner	July 20, 2015, 8:38pm
Special Brew Drinker Posts: 7,811 Posts Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 78.86% Rep Score: +63 / -17 Location: Farsley, Leeds Approval: +13,279 Gold Stars: 185	I'd be tempted to bring Compton in for Lyth for his grinding qualities. I just can't see Lyth making runs in the series. I could see some logic in attacking with Hales though. Bairstow is in unbelievable form but he has struggled with short, fast stuff in the past and he won't face anything like Johnson or Starc in the County Championship. Taylor is the only other one who'd tempt me, probably for Ballance and maybe push Bell to 3. I'd leave Root where he is at 5. I saw somebody proclaiming Anderson past it yesterday and saying Finn should replace him. Only problem with the Ashes is suddenly people with no usual interest are suddenly experts!
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petethemariner	July 20, 2015, 8:41pm
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,563 Posts Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 91.83% Rep Score: +36 / -2 Approval: +1,011 Gold Stars: 16	Thing is though Chris, even though I agree that there is a big step up from County to Test Cricket, you can only give the present incumbents so many chances, Lyse IMO isn't anywhere near good enough, Ballances frailties to the short ball are so obvious that the Aussies only need to continue what they are presently doing and Bells last dozen test scores with the exception of one fifty are absolutely appalling. Root has to go in at 3 and surely there are some County players worth taking a chance on - i have always thought we would get stuffed by the Aussies anyway and still reckon we will - IMO we may as well give some new blood a chance.
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petethemariner	July 20, 2015, 8:43pm
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,563 Posts Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 91.83% Rep Score: +36 / -2 Approval: +1,011 Gold Stars: 16	Should have read Lyth of course not Lyse.
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Rodley Mariner	July 20, 2015, 8:56pm
Special Brew Drinker Posts: 7,811 Posts Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 78.86% Rep Score: +63 / -17 Location: Farsley, Leeds Approval: +13,279 Gold Stars: 185	Root is the only one consistently making runs. The only really poor patch of his test career was when he was moved to open. Leave him where he is!
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petethemariner	July 20, 2015, 9:11pm
Cocktail Drinker Posts: 1,563 Posts Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 91.83% Rep Score: +36 / -2 Approval: +1,011 Gold Stars: 16	I agree what they did to Root by making him open  a couple of years ago was ridiculous, but he has improved as a Test Batsman now,  he has the technique to bat 3 now IMO and lets face it, he has been batting 3 in all but name from many tests now - its usually 23 for 3  after only  a few overs when he gets to bat! I know what you mean about leaving things as they are, but something needs to be done, or we are looking at another series hiding.
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Rodley Mariner	July 20, 2015, 9:14pm
Special Brew Drinker Posts: 7,811 Posts Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 78.86% Rep Score: +63 / -17 Location: Farsley, Leeds Approval: +13,279 Gold Stars: 185	Quoted from petethemariner lets face it, he has been batting 3 in all but name from many tests now - its usually 23 for 3  after only  a few overs when he gets to bat! That's a very fair point! Think I would make one or two changes but still think I'd leave him where he is. Easy to forget we were stuffing them 9 days ago to go 1-0 up!
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zorro_is_a_Mariner	July 20, 2015, 9:30pm
Brandy Drinker Posts: 2,834 Posts Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 82.61% Rep Score: +30 / -6 Location: Grimsby Approval: +1,369 Gold Stars: 4	Get rid of lyth bring in hales and bell for bairsrow Gtfc all the way
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BIGChris	July 20, 2015, 10:12pm
Season Ticket Holder Posts: 11,800 Posts Per Day: 1.96 Reputation: 74.94% Rep Score: +70 / -24 Approval: +2,654 Gold Stars: 6	Bell certainly struggled at Lords and in the West Indies and in the 2 Tests v NZ but I can't help but looking back about 10 days when he was playing the most exquisite cover drives anyone in the world would struggle to beat. The guy, when on form, is simply class. Can he regain the form or has it gone forever? The trouble is how do you regain form against the best team in the world??
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