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Also it strikes me that 'getting lucky' is the only way out anyway
And you criticise Fenty for not having a plan (even though he does)
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November 11, 2011, 10:04pm |
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Won't argue with the fact we have been poorly run but to say it's Fenty's fault that Woods wasted so much money on the likes of Tommy Wright, Lee Peacock and God knows who else is just wrong. We paid big bucks (Fenty's money) and the manager picked duds. Not just Woods I hasten to add. The current two have had a decent budget and I am sure it wasn't Fenty's idea to pay a fee for Anthony Elding....
You can blame Fenty for a lot of things, but not managers signing bad players.
Nice bit of realism...Is John Fenty's biggest problem that he has put too much faith in the managers he and the board appointed? Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I'm not sure I can remember many complaints when we gave the job to Mike Newell
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November 11, 2011, 10:17pm |
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I'm not sure I can remember many complaints when we gave the job to Mike Newell
Yes, but the man on the street didn't have the opportunity to talk to people in the game or his ex chairman about why he'd been out of work for two years.
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November 11, 2011, 10:42pm |
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Yes, but the man on the street didn't have the opportunity to talk to people in the game or his ex chairman about why he'd been out of work for two years.
You're right but when has that ever stopped the Fishy from having it's say. Virtually no criticism on here for months after his appointment
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November 11, 2011, 11:17pm |
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I'd rather have that plan than trying to live within our means, and have a vastly inferior side on paper. We haven't had much success with it, but it's still far more likely than getting lucky with a bargain basement side. If Fenty (or anyone else) chooses to plough money into the club which is spent on having a competitive side and is not causing long term financial problems because all the funding is in the form of benign loans then I don't see a problem.
Rob. Shall we call you Greece? Quite happy to waste someone else's money. Unfortunately John Fenty is not Germany in this scenario. More like Ireland. Sooner or later the money runs out and the benefactor gets bored. But it's much worse than that in our situation. Fenty's loans have created a false situation. It's led, with bad management, to wasted money, and disillusion. He's not given one manager the time. He's gone back on his promise to back Woodsy inside of a few days. It's led to clear out after clear out and pay off after pay off. His money has been a curse not an aid. It's been wasted. We're now in the riduclous situation of having one of the bigger gates of the Conference plus a £1m subsidy yet we're not competitive. He seems to think that if he just perseveres longer something will come good. Hell! Every season we have a budget that is high yet is dropped the following year because we're leaking money, but always the decision is too late. So we're on a constant spiral of getting worse, lowering our budget yet doing so too late to keep up with reality, so we bring in more players who are not up to it ad infinitum. How can we have 50+ non-playing employees at our level! You cannot go through so many managers and still be unsuccessful without questioning the regime at the top. NOBODY is that unlucky. I'd rather we faced the dreaded day when the money runs out sooner than later.
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November 11, 2011, 11:19pm |
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This is a straight question with no hidden agenda.
IF John Fenty isnt re-elected at the AGM and therefore doesn't cover the reported shortfall (£400K?) nor put a budget for next season in place, what do we (the club) do? How do we pay the wages for this season and have a budget for next season?
Do we just become anothr Darlo and go to the wall and start again?
And the happy alternative is what? More of the same?
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November 11, 2011, 11:20pm |
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You're right but when has that ever stopped the Fishy from having it's say. Virtually no criticism on here for months after his appointment
True. Most of us got that wrong. Maybe the Newell situation was unlucky. But count the number of managers. Who is THAT unlucky?
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GrimRob |
November 11, 2011, 11:28pm |
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And the happy alternative is what? More of the same?
Yes that's Plan A. I am yet to hear a plausible Plan B.
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November 11, 2011, 11:32pm |
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Drop down the leagues even further and start wimbledon style and rebuild
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Drop down the leagues even further and start wimbledon style and rebuild
and do we REALLY want that? where would we play? how excited could you get about a local derby v brigg town and horncastle in the FA Vase?
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