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jonnyboy82
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close to joining tamworth according to there messageboard.


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Good luck to chopper, 100% effort but will look forward to playing against him.
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Playing for Boston tonight though...


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Yes played for us tonite ( uumm not sure about him) 2-2 draw with Stamford
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Yes played for us tonite ( uumm not sure about him) 2-2 draw with Stamford





what you think of him?


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Feel sorry for the club that signs Leary, may not lack comittment but lets be honest he is not a ' star man' or anything close to that  
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i dont think they actually need leary, and the reason is they are a very defensive side already espically when we played them at their ground
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No he's not a star man, and generally seems to divide opinion. People would have you believe he's 100% effort and 50% ability. Not sure it's as cut and dry as that.  I guess I mean he can 'do a job'. Wouldn't have minded one bit if Shorty and Shouty had kept him.


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80sglory
July 20, 2011, 12:26am
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Can't pass for toffee - it's all well and good wanting commitment but he's not the kind of player you'd see being part of a promotion winning side.
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He played in Gainsborough's 8-0 win at Brigg the other night as well.


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boston fan here.Thought leary was pritty solid to be honest.  Seemed to get into his strideas the game went on.  Would be a good addition to us.  
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Truthfully, one of THE worst players I've ever had the misfortune of seeing in a Town shirt. Completely agree that he gave his all, however his all was all about nothing, sadly
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Depends which Leary turns up for me. If its the Leary of last pre-season i wouldnt have minded him staying. But he never really got a good run of games under his belt and as a result didnt find and form. Moving him on was the right decision for me. But think he'd be a good signing at Bostons level
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Passion, commitment, desire is there. Something which has been a bit rare from a Town player in the last few years but no ability.
Mind you, may be a good addition to a Boston team that are struggling
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player who gives it his all.Not the best on the ball but not the worst either and adds a physical presence in the middle .Saw him in a couple of pre season and league games last season in which he played well

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I think Bostons level is about right for leary to build up a rep. 100% commited but cant pass and dosnt have a great football mind
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Quoted from Laceby Andy
I think Bostons level is about right for leary to build up a rep. 100% commited but cant pass and dosnt have a great football mind

Some Boston fans thought the same ( and some still do ) about Church when he arrived.Think we might sign him out of desparation. We are seriously short in the middle now Sleathy is in China for a month or more. Wasnt the best last nite but 100% effort goes along way in our division.
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I thought Leary was a bland, plane, boring, mindless footballer, like you guys said would always give his all..but his all wasn't even a quarter of a way to being a sub standard level. Good luck to the guy though, from what I can gather he gave a fairly solid display for Trinity on Monday, so fingers crossed he may have a couple of offers on the cards


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from what I can gather he gave a fairly solid display for Trinity on Monday, so fingers crossed he may have a couple of offers on the cards
and done very well by all accounts last night   hope he gets a contract always like a grafter

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I was working in Peterborough yesterday and went to see Boston against Stamford   saw our ex midfielder Leary was trialling there and had a solid determined game.Maybe when he was here his mindset with Town wasn't quite right!
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If he played 90 mins for Gainsborough the night before then he has done pretty well.

Despite the ridicule Leary has played around 150 FL games so he must have something more than many on here can see
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The thing is with leary, he tries in pre-season when he wants to get in the team. Once he knows he's at the team for another year, hes apsolute dogs balls.
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The thing is with leary, he tries in pre-season when he wants to get in the team. Once he knows he's at the team for another year, hes apsolute dogs balls.


Or perhaps he tries until he catches pneumonia then struggles to regain form and fitness????
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Never had a problem with Leary, not the greatest but adequate for our level
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Never had a problem with Leary, not the greatest but adequate for our level


sometimes i can't believe the standard of player we now tolerate as being adequate.  leary was substandard, even at div5 level
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July 20, 2011, 10:36pm
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sometimes i can't believe the standard of player we now tolerate as being adequate.

Adequate for midtable - no longer acceptable !
If we storm it this year, we'll all get a wake up call what we've been readily accepting far too easily for far too long.
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some people do talk some sh*t on here.  People just jump on the band wagon.  If town are winning then everyone is world beater and if we are losing then the players are not worthy to wear the shirt.  A player has to have something to become a pro footballer in the first place and too play over 100 games in the league then thats something.  Each player has their own attributes and its the manager's job to get the right blend of player in and get the best out of them.  We all sit in the stand and think we are managers and could do a better job.  Just pipe down and get behind the players regardless.   Leary had his own attributes.  No he would not beat three or four men but he would win the ball and play an easy ball to start of an attack.  Maybe woodsy didnt have the right blend in,who knows,but to say he cant pass then thats just makes me laugh. It will be interesting to see how shorty and shouty get on this year.  They have no excuses this season because they have had a pre season with the boys and also have bought there own players in.  
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some people do talk some sh*t on here.  People just jump on the band wagon.  If town are winning then everyone is world beater and if we are losing then the players are not worthy to wear the shirt.  A player has to have something to become a pro footballer in the first place and too play over 100 games in the league then thats something.  Each player has their own attributes and its the manager's job to get the right blend of player in and get the best out of them.  We all sit in the stand and think we are managers and could do a better job.  Just pipe down and get behind the players regardless.   Leary had his own attributes.  No he would not beat three or four men but he would win the ball and play an easy ball to start of an attack.  Maybe woodsy didnt have the right blend in,who knows,but to say he cant pass then thats just makes me laugh. It will be interesting to see how shorty and shouty get on this year.  They have no excuses this season because they have had a pre season with the boys and also have bought there own players in.  



Bostonboy, you almost sound like you have seen Leary play in a Town shirt quite a few times.....

A multi account you forgot to log out of?
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Bostonboy, you almost sound like you have seen Leary play in a Town shirt quite a few times.....

A multi account you forgot to log out of?


SCHOOLBOY ERROR.


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some people do talk some sh*t on here.  People just jump on the band wagon.  If town are winning then everyone is world beater and if we are losing then the players are not worthy to wear the shirt.  A player has to have something to become a pro footballer in the first place and too play over 100 games in the league then thats something.  Each player has their own attributes and its the manager's job to get the right blend of player in and get the best out of them.  We all sit in the stand and think we are managers and could do a better job.  Just pipe down and get behind the players regardless.   Leary had his own attributes.  No he would not beat three or four men but he would win the ball and play an easy ball to start of an attack.  Maybe woodsy didnt have the right blend in,who knows,but to say he cant pass then thats just makes me laugh. It will be interesting to see how shorty and shouty get on this year.  They have no excuses this season because they have had a pre season with the boys and also have bought there own players in.  
cant agree more! this is exactly what happens with some football supporters.Sentiments of the extreme!! players are either world beaters or total shite  . A balanced argument such as this is what we all should adhere to giving  a reasoned criticism of players  
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cant agree more! this is exactly what happens with some football supporters.Sentiments of the extreme!! players are either world beaters or total shite  . A balanced argument such as this is what we all should adhere to giving  a reasoned criticism of players  


Apart from if like leary they are total shite. cant pass, cant tackle and cant run, he is a total clogger but he seems like a nice chap though.
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Apart from if like leary they are total shite. cant pass, cant tackle and cant run, he is a total clogger but he seems like a nice chap though.
again this is using the language of the extreme.Use of the expression"total shite" is derogatory to professional players at any level.To have achieved the professional standard and to have played x amount of games simply invalidates that expression.Take Bradley Woods for example.The lad puts everything in his game and plays with the energy and output of a chieftain tank but his ball skills do not match up.But they are not shite.He plays to the strengths for which he has been professionally selected and fits a niche in the structure and playing style of the team.Connel could finish and moved well off the ball but other aspects of his game I would say would be found wanting.Conlon was a great header of the ball but lacked energy and mobility.Its up to the manager to use the various attributes of the players and to mould them into the teams shape and style of play that would achieve success.If they are ALL pulling in the same direction a forward momentum will be inevitable  .To this end the supporters have a role to play as well.Constrictive reasoned criticism is what is needed not the semantics of the extreme.Iam sure players and management  read the forums banter and can only be annoyed and discouraged by some of the comments.Some fans just seem to jump on the bandwagon of derision when things are going badly and the total reverse when results are more positive.......  why cant we as fans simply ameliorate our language and act as true supporters by enhancing the positives attributes of players and criticising  constructively how they could improve !!!!

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again this is using the language of the extreme.Use of the expression"total shite" is derogatory to professional players at any level.To have achieved the professional standard and to have played x amount of games simply invalidates that expression.Take Bradley Woods for example.The lad puts everything in his game and plays with the energy and output of a chieftain tank but his ball skills do not match up.But they are not shite.He plays to the strengths for which he has been professionally selected and fits a niche in the structure and playing style of the team.Connel could finish and moved well off the ball but other aspects of his game I would say would be found wanting.Conlon was a great header of the ball but lacked energy and mobility.Its up to the manager to use the various attributes of the players and to mould them into the teams shape and style of play that would achieve success.If they are ALL pulling in the same direction a forward momentum will be inevitable  .To this end the supporters have a role to play as well.Constrictive reasoned criticism is what is needed not the semantics of the extreme.Iam sure players and management  read the forums banter and can only be annoyed and discouraged by some of the comments.Fans just seem to jump on the bandwagon of derision when things are going badly and the total reverse when results are more positive.......  why cant we as fans simply ameliorate our language and act as true supporters by enhancing the positives attributes of players and criticising  constructively how they could improve !!!!

up the mariners


That argument is all well and good but those players you are defending have seen us drop several leagues in a short space of time and struggle in non league.

Most of them were shite and the results bear that out.
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again this is using the language of the extreme.Use of the expression"total shite" is derogatory to professional players at any level.To have achieved the professional standard and to have played x amount of games simply invalidates that expression.Take Bradley Woods for example.The lad puts everything in his game and plays with the energy and output of a chieftain tank but his ball skills do not match up.But they are not shite.He plays to the strengths for which he has been professionally selected and fits a niche in the structure and playing style of the team.Connel could finish and moved well off the ball but other aspects of his game I would say would be found wanting.Conlon was a great header of the ball but lacked energy and mobility.Its up to the manager to use the various attributes of the players and to mould them into the teams shape and style of play that would achieve success.If they are ALL pulling in the same direction a forward momentum will be inevitable  .To this end the supporters have a role to play as well.Constrictive reasoned criticism is what is needed not the semantics of the extreme.Iam sure players and management  read the forums banter and can only be annoyed and discouraged by some of the comments.Some fans just seem to jump on the bandwagon of derision when things are going badly and the total reverse when results are more positive.......  why cant we as fans simply ameliorate our language and act as true supporters by enhancing the positives attributes of players and criticising  constructively how they could improve !!!!

up the mariners


bradley wood is a good player though, michael leary is one of the worst players i have ever seen play for town and i have seen some bad ones, the fact that he is on trail at pt clubs shows he will probably never be mistaken for a professional footballer again. Leary is a shite footballer no amount of constructive criticism is going to change that, the language is extreme because he is extremely shite.
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Leary's agreed to sign for Gainsborough Trinity. Like most people, I didn't rate him but you couldn't fault his effort so good luck to him.
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Leary's agreed to sign for Gainsborough Trinity. Like most people, I didn't rate him but you couldn't fault his effort so good luck to him.
pleased for the lad.I think despite him being released by Town did at times show a bit of quality .In pre season  last year for example  was one of our best players  


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If he played 90 mins for Gainsborough the night before then he has done pretty well.

Despite the ridicule Leary has played around 150 FL games so he must have something more than many on here can see


Maybe he does have something more than we can see... Seen as you point this out, maybe you can also point out what most people on here are blind too, that is of course if we are missing the glaringly obvious...




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again this is using the language of the extreme.Use of the expression"total shite" is derogatory to professional players at any level.To have achieved the professional standard and to have played x amount of games simply invalidates that expression.


Two words to beat that argument hands down. Jamie and Clarke.
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. Leary is a shite footballer no amount of constructive criticism is going to change that, the language is extreme because he is extremely shite.
  

may not be the best but if he would have been complete shite like you said would he have played the number of games he did at league level  doubt it.Managers after a couple of games would of paid him up and let him go  (as is the case in football).In addition kept Disley out of the side whilst he was on loan from Bristol Rovers from championship club Luton   so cant be that crap.I agree maybe not up to what Town want(eg promotion from the bsp) but could do a job for another team in the bsp
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may not be the best but if he would have been complete shite like you said would he have played the number of games he did at league level  doubt it.Managers after a couple of games would of let him go or released him (as is the case in football).In addition kept Disly out of the side whilst he was on loan from Bristol Rovers from championship club Luton   so cant be that crap.I agree maybe not up to what Town want(eg promotion from the bsp) but could do a job for another team in the bsp



See my post above yours. Also, just because a manager played a player doesn't mean the player is any good. Depends who the manager is.
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