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Personally I wouldn't have been upset to see either of them stay but I think the poor season we've had is overinflating their historic stock a little.
Orsi was a hard worker and has proven this season to know how to score but that wasn't the case last season. He was largely ineffective for most of the season but showed glimpses from time to time and his FA Cup performances mostly offered some hint of promise. No-one would be saying we should have kept him if he'd only scored 5 this season, same as if he had stayed and not scored the theme would be 'should have improved in the summer'. I would have kept him too but not with the same degree of flattery he seems to be getting, even if I am pleased to see him doing well.
Its a bit the same with Mani. I'm sure I remember people saying that he was worthy of being a backup in the squad on promotion and I would again agree with that but he wouldn't settle for that.
I liked both of them, wouldn't be unhappy to see them here again in the future but also think that neither really set a standard like Danny Rose did, both more like Wilson who has shown there's something but isn't fully convincing and it's only what they've gone on to achieve is the basis of why people are calling decisions a mistake, not based on how they performed here.
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I liked Mani when he was here. Hoped he would stay when we got promoted. Had the pleasure of seeing him twice this year. Small sample size but I’m really glad he left. Absolutely anonymous both times. Think he left at the right time to be remembered fondly at Town.
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Personally I wouldn't have been upset to see either of them stay but I think the poor season we've had is overinflating their historic stock a little.
Orsi was a hard worker and has proven this season to know how to score but that wasn't the case last season. He was largely ineffective for most of the season but showed glimpses from time to time and his FA Cup performances mostly offered some hint of promise. No-one would be saying we should have kept him if he'd only scored 5 this season, same as if he had stayed and not scored the theme would be 'should have improved in the summer'. I would have kept him too but not with the same degree of flattery he seems to be getting, even if I am pleased to see him doing well.
Orsi started FIVE league games for us last season and managed to score 2 goals. Hurst, quite simply, did not give him a chance. He only got a chance in the FA Cup because we literally had no one else and he more than proved his worth. But even then he couldn't buy a start in the league. This season he's started FOURTY FOUR games for Crawley and scored 18 goals. The last time he played a decent amount of games was when he played 32 games and scored 19 goals for Maidenhead in the conference. Mani is fair enough, he hasn't ever torn up any trees in the league so it's debatable and time will tell.. But letting Orsi leave, and not playing him when we had him, was an appalling decision by Hurst. Not only was he a decent goal scorer, but his performances in teh cup showed he's also a grafter and a pretty clever player all round. |
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Totally agree about Orsi. Letting him go was crazy. As insane as letting Podge go when we did.
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Totally agree about Orsi. Letting him go was crazy. As insane as letting Podge go when we did.
Know I’ll get slated for this but Podge was a proven goalscorer with us, Orsi showed promise at times. I definitely think this is a case of somebody who performed well in a few cup games, to me didn’t look anything much in the league and had gone elsewhere and done well and is now hero worshipped for some reason. |
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Know I’ll get slated for this but Podge was a proven goalscorer with us, Orsi showed promise at times. I definitely think this is a case of somebody who performed well in a few cup games, to me didn’t look anything much in the league and had gone elsewhere and done well and is now hero worshipped for some reason.
Notwithstanding his amazing performances up front on his own against Luton, I think the reason PH didn’t play him more is being a one up front doesn’t suit Orsi, he looked decent when he was paired with Lloyd near the end of the season. It was the second biggest PH blunder of the close season, compounded by replacing him with Pyke. Rose / Orsi Rose/Wilson Orsi / Wilson would have been a very solid set of options, but PH I suspect was planning 4-3-3 with Rose Vernam and Eisa or 4-4-1-1 probably with Gav behind Rose, so couldn’t guarantee Orsi better than third choice |
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Notwithstanding his amazing performances up front on his own against Luton, I think the reason PH didn’t play him more is being a one up front doesn’t suit Orsi, he looked decent when he was paired with Lloyd near the end of the season. It was the second biggest PH blunder of the close season, compounded by replacing him with Pyke. Rose / Orsi Rose/Wilson Orsi / Wilson would have been a very solid set of options, but PH I suspect was planning 4-3-3 with Rose Vernam and Eisa or 4-4-1-1 probably with Gav behind Rose, so couldn’t guarantee Orsi better than third choice
He was also victim to the fact he was the only available striker we had for the cup and we couldn't risk him getting injured. Every other striker was cup tied. |
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Totally agree about Orsi. Letting him go was crazy. As insane as letting Podge go when we did.
We offered podge a kit of fish to stay Ron I think we ( fenty ) insulted his efforts tbh we don’t pay the money and even now don’t. Ryan Bennett was offered 2 kits of fish to come here in the summer Cambridge offered 3 times more obviously a no brainer for him |
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We offered podge a kit of fish to stay Ron I think we ( fenty ) insulted his efforts tbh we don’t pay the money and even now don’t. Ryan Bennett was offered 2 kits of fish to come here in the summer Cambridge offered 3 times more obviously a no brainer for him
Well with the cup money blown by Hurst I guess it will be down to 1 1/2 kits this time! |
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He was out of contract at Tranmere, we had the option of signing him as in talks were held. Hurst was clear to him, you won't be coming here as first choice. Mani wanted at least the chance to be the main man but it was made clear it wasn't going to happen.
Hindsight's great. Season after Mani left we struggled to even field strikers never mind effective ones. Taylor looked absolutely broken, McAtee couldn't get going, Simmonds and Pepple were useless and Orsi...well, let's not go there.
Would Mani have cut it in League Two? History suggests not but his whole career was unspectacular prior to rocking up for us. 3 goals in 26 games in the Conference North for Salford. 4 goals in 29 appearances in the same league for Kiddy. He had 18 career goals to his name before we loaned him, 7 of those were in the FA Trophy! Maybe everything just clicked for him here and he certainly hasn't looked back.
We'll never know if he would have been any good last season for us but I'm confident he would have been better than some of the loan lads we had last season. Equally so persisting with Taylor as your main man was a bad move. But you can see why Hurst didn't fancy it. A purple patch for us, plus lets face it if you take away his goals at Notts County and Wrexham away and no-one is really waxing lyrical about him anymore than Tristan Abrahams, probably isn't enough to buck the trend from the previous 9 years of football.
I suspect we'll find out next season if Mani can cut it at this level. 23 goals that finished midtable is impressive and certainly will have put him on a few League Two radars.
Wouldn't "you'll have to fight to secure a regular first choice starting place" be a better message to give to a potential signing? |
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