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5 questions I'd like to ask Artell

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Heisenberg
April 14, 2024, 3:15pm
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Oh sorry, am I supposed to celebrate successfully navigating a relegation battle we should never have been involved in?


Would you prefer relegation? Right now, staying up has to be considered something to celebrate, albeit only temporarily until our goals for next year are set.

After yesterday I’m very happy, and I’m glad to admit it.
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Take away the robbery of Sutton and it would be 5 wins in 12. We also threw the win away against Bradford, it's not been excellent but it's also not been awful, the players have shown a desire to fight for the badge and shown enough quality to obtain the points required despite every single person writing us off. We've lost twice in 12 and that was against Wrexham and Barrow.. our problem this season has been drawing games and I am very optimistic that we will turn more of those draws into wins under a more pragmatic approach under Artell. It's not all sunshine and rainbows but we showed against MK Dons we can sit behind the ball and nullify teams, against Newport and Crewe we've dominated the games and got much required wins.. the ability to adapt to the different teams we play is something that Artell does much better than Hurst.


And Harrogate
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5. Do you think we could win L 1 next season seeing we only lost 2 games this year.



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No it's not. It works out at 65 points over a 46 game season.

In the 27 completed tier 4 seasons since the division returned to 24 clubs after the 1994/95 season the lowest points to achieve 7th was 66 in 2006 (Lincoln).

The last time a team reached the play-offs with less than 70 points was 2013 when Bradford were promoted via the play-offs after finishing on 69 points.

And interestingly in the 18 seasons between 1995/96 and 2012/13 the team finishing 7th achieved an average of 71.5 points.

In the 9 completed seasons from 2013/14 onwards the team finishing 7th has averaged 73.1 points.

And since the formation change after the Donny disaster we've won 4 out of 12. That works out at 15 wins over a 46 match season.

In the last 5 completed League 2 seasons no team has reached the play-offs with less than 20 wins.

And only 3 times since 1995/16 has a team got to the play-offs with less than 18 wins. 2 clubs achieved 17 wins to finish 7th (2009 & 2011) with just 1 example of 15 wins being enough to finish 7th (Lincoln in 2006 again).

So, stop pretending everything has been marvelous after the Doncaster game. It hasn't.

And anyhow, no Head Coach would get away with the style and quality of football over the last 12 games over a full season. There's no relegation battle fan pragmatism in August.


Would dispute your use of the word “interestingly” there.
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Oh sorry, am I supposed to celebrate successfully navigating a relegation battle we should never have been involved in?


I certainly won’t be celebrating that part but you can give credit where it’s due.

A few years back Hurst took over from Holloway in a situation not too dissimilar to the one Artell took on, he took us down with barely a whimper and got widely praised for it whilst Holloway was touted as our worst ever manager.

Artell takes us on in a strikingly similar position, struggles at first then sees us safe with 3 games to spare and the jury somehow seems out on him?

Our form has been pretty decent since Doncaster and I think it’s something we can be confident we can build on.
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I just want the season to end and to draw a line under it. We’re still a point off confirming mathematically so I’ll wait for that before deciding how I’m going to react to it.


Up The Mariners!
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And Harrogate


Why were we robbed at Harrogate, we only played reasonably well for the first 45 minutes.
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My worry is how many new players will we attract and will they be good enough to play the Artell way especially as most of our current players couldn't and as I understand it it was them that forced that meeting and changed his mind.
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