Some Positives?

I quite like Rodgers bringing the ball out, but he doesn't fill me with confidence when he's gone further than the halfway line if that makes sense?  

In terms of his confidence, he's one of many who had it shot to pieces and Artell has slowly given them it back.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Please explain the "Grimsby Way"

If you read my comment I did put a ! ( exclamation mark ) after it. I don't know what it is, do you?, all we know it has been quoted by 1878 I believe.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Is it clear what went wrong last year or is this a narrative that gives those who are here now a fresh start ( including the owners)and those who have gone carry the can ? A common situation in any business. Truth is we don’t know but  the optimists will happily convince themselves the narrative is correct for now at least.

Barring 1 game the season is over. I think we should look forward to a fresh start with some new players. On the other hand, you infer that this is wrong, so how would you like us to start the new season?

Quoted from arryarryarry

Same response as my previous post, we had all this at the start of this season.

We have had 3 sets of managers, a shed load of players and they couldn't even manage 2 league wins in a row. This season nearly ended in a disaster and I don't want it repeated next season. We need a huge clear out of players, backroom staff and yes Artell as well as I don't trust him with what he might do. Reading several comments from Crewe fans he apparently took over a really good squad of players that didn't need improving and he got them promoted. He then started bringing in his choice of players and he took them down.

I would like him to prove me wrong but it is a big gamble as I don't see the owners throwing tens of thousands of pounds on that many new better players.

I would add that when Hurst was sacked we were 4th from bottom, yet here we are with players that Artell brought in and still 4th from bottom.

I think this is exceptionally harsh on multiple points. He took over Crewe when they were 18th in L2 and had won twice in their last 17 games. Hardly a squad of world beaters. The line up for Davis' last game before he was sacked only had three players in it that played their final game before Covid curtailed the 19/20 season at which point Crewe were top of L2. So he's either brought through from the youth team or signed the majority of a squad that got automatic promotion from this division including signing both of the team's top scorers for that promotion winning season. It's always easier when you get good youth players coming through like he was fortunate to do so with Crewe but you've still got to get them used to men's football and playing as a team which he clearly did quite well. Claiming he took over a really good squad three years before their promotion is a complete re-write of history.

Equally so is the disingenuous comment about signing his own players. He had the January transfer window to sign players in which is notoriously difficult. Particularly if you're in a L2 relegation fight as nobody wants relegation out of the league on their CV. Yet two of the players he signed have been two of our three stand out players since January and without them I'm fairly certain we'd have gone down, Thompson particularly. Smith, Hume and Obikwu have also all played a role to a greater or lesser extent as well. That is not a bad hit rate at all given the circumstances.

There are certainly still questions about Artell and my concern would be that he reverts to trying to be Barcelona 2.0 with L2 players without allowing any flexibility for when it's not working. Hopefully the experience since January will have taught him something and he'll be a bit more pragmatic and flexible whilst still attempting to get the team playing more. However, he's earned the right to take us into next season and I suspect we'll be better than we were this season.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I quite like Rodgers bringing the ball out, but he doesn't fill me with confidence when he's gone further than the halfway line if that makes sense?  

In terms of his confidence, he's one of many who had it shot to pieces and Artell has slowly given them it back.

Well it was Artell that continued shooting it to pieces actually, after a brief improvement under Pearson/Davies. He was then forced to change by the players themselves after results became catastrophic.

Yes, held at gunpoint by his players to change the tactics.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Yes, held at gunpoint by his players to change the tactics.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Yes, held at gunpoint by his players to change the tactics.

I heard that he woke up to find a horse's head in his bed. That was a clear threat by those scheming players.

Quoted from DB

If you read my comment I did put a ! ( exclamation mark ) after it. I don't know what it is, do you?, all we know it has been quoted by 1878 I believe.

"Grimsby Way"?  I've asked what "Game Model" meant/ was that's been mentioned by 1875, DA and others on this forum, and received loads of X's, either telling me to sod off, or that they were pretending that they knew, and all I was doing is embarrassing them in asking.

The only "Grimsby Way" I know from 2002-3 is mediocrity. This season we have one better and added "Delusion". When we lose heavily "we play much better than the opposition", and when we slip down the League Table, "everything is alright as the Data shows things are positive".

Artell can’t win can he. If we had gone down it would all be his fault. As we stayed up it’s the players who are to get the credit.

It wasn’t the players who brought in Thompson and Tharme though was it?

He inherited a team with downward momentum heading for the NL and managed to do what Hurst couldn’t in 2021.

Our recent form over 13 game is top ten standard. We have beaten two teams in the top 6, got away points at three other teams in the top ten, and have several clean sheets in the process.  So I think he deserves some credit and has earned the right to take us into next season.