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Shouldnt really be surprised anymore, 1 good performance shouldn't blinker us to just how excrement we have been,
Last night another case in point, so many basic errors, inability to defend, put a tackle in, beat the first man with a cross.
Time and time and time again.
It’s not the erratic performances that surprise me it’s the erratic responses on here. One win at Crewe and suddenly Green is the L2 Pirlo and maybe the rebuild required isn’t as big as we previously thought. In reality, if contracts were not in place, I can’t think of any player beyond Thompson & Rose, and probably Tharme, I would wish to see retained. Not seen enough of Callum to know if he’s good enough, previous experience would suggest he is, but he didn’t get picked when PH was here although I think he could have been injured for much of that time. There might be another couple who would be ok as back up squad players but nobody I would be desperate to retain. That said there are always players who when surrounded by better players who will perform much better than they have this season, however, we are so poor it’s hard to identify who these players might be. Really sad state of affairs that instead of a few additions to get us up that league we appear to need a complete clear out. Just praying we get that one point on Saturday as Crawley will definitely need a win when they play us and it just seems destined that Orsi sends us into oblivion.
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Well, despite last night’s defeat Town are now 1000/1 to go down. Anyone fancy sticking a tenner on to take the sting out of an unthinkable capitulation?
It is indeed 1000/1 and I tried to lump a fiver on but it said a trader had to review the bet. In the end £1 was accepted and £4 declined so I don't know what to make of that.
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Stevenage and Crawley got this right after being in a similar dire position. If we can get the recruitment right then we could have some success.
Oh come on, Crawley scraped the bottom of the barrel by signing a bloke who couldn't get in our team. And he's done b*gger all for them, he's only scored 20 goals....
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Strange thing with those 365 odds is that we were 500/1 before last night's game!
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It’s not the erratic performances that surprise me it’s the erratic responses on here. One win at Crewe and suddenly Green is the L2 Pirlo and maybe the rebuild required isn’t as big as we previously thought. In reality, if contracts were not in place, I can’t think of any player beyond Thompson & Rose, and probably Tharme, I would wish to see retained. Not seen enough of Callum to know if he’s good enough, previous experience would suggest he is, but he didn’t get picked when PH was here although I think he could have been injured for much of that time. There might be another couple who would be ok as back up squad players but nobody I would be desperate to retain.
That said there are always players who when surrounded by better players who will perform much better than they have this season, however, we are so poor it’s hard to identify who these players might be.
Really sad state of affairs that instead of a few additions to get us up that league we appear to need a complete clear out. Just praying we get that one point on Saturday as Crawley will definitely need a win when they play us and it just seems destined that Orsi sends us into oblivion.
Completely agree. In my opinion we've had seven games this season where we've managed a good level of performance across the full 90 minutes. Gillingham at home, MK Dons at home, Newport at home, Crewe home and away, Morecambe at home, Salford away. That is abysmal. Other than the very obvious exceptions of Rose and Thompson and, to a lesser extent, Tharme the players should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. We are where we are deservedly, this squad isn't better than it's league position and is there on merit. Yet each time we put in a half decent performance there are some suggesting we should be retaining players in the close season. None of the players that are out of contract have performed well enough to warrant an offer but I would probably offer Clifton something purely as a utility man as he's certainly not good enough to be first choice in any position if you want to be towards the top of the league. Even with the players that are contracted, I'd be quite happy for Pyke to leave. Wilson is certainly replaceable if he had something lined up. Mullarkey and Rodgers are very replaceable and I suspect Rodgers may be one of the higher earners too. Khouri and Hunt have a lot to prove. And Eastwood cannot be our first choice next season. If any of these players could find an offer elsewhere and we didn't have to pay them off then I'd be considering it. Only Rose, Thompson, Tharme and Vernam have performed to anything like the standard required on a reasonably consistent basis and isn't that a disgraceful situation to be in? Anyone that thinks we need anything other than a total overhaul is deluded or a fool.
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It is indeed 1000/1 and I tried to lump a fiver on but it said a trader had to review the bet. In the end £1 was accepted and £4 declined so I don't know what to make of that.
Same here, strict £1000 lay to lose by the looks of it.
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Completely agree. In my opinion we've had seven games this season where we've managed a good level of performance across the full 90 minutes. Gillingham at home, MK Dons at home, Newport at home, Crewe home and away, Morecambe at home, Salford away. That is abysmal. Other than the very obvious exceptions of Rose and Thompson and, to a lesser extent, Tharme the players should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. We are where we are deservedly, this squad isn't better than it's league position and is there on merit. Yet each time we put in a half decent performance there are some suggesting we should be retaining players in the close season. None of the players that are out of contract have performed well enough to warrant an offer but I would probably offer Clifton something purely as a utility man as he's certainly not good enough to be first choice in any position if you want to be towards the top of the league.
Even with the players that are contracted, I'd be quite happy for Pyke to leave. Wilson is certainly replaceable if he had something lined up. Mullarkey and Rodgers are very replaceable and I suspect Rodgers may be one of the higher earners too. Khouri and Hunt have a lot to prove. And Eastwood cannot be our first choice next season. If any of these players could find an offer elsewhere and we didn't have to pay them off then I'd be considering it. Only Rose, Thompson, Tharme and Vernam have performed to anything like the standard required on a reasonably consistent basis and isn't that a disgraceful situation to be in? Anyone that thinks we need anything other than a total overhaul is deluded or a fool.
Not sure on vernam, he has fits and bursts when he is fit, but theres no consistancy. Hopefully a full pre season and we can see the benefits of him
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It is indeed 1000/1 and I tried to lump a fiver on but it said a trader had to review the bet. In the end £1 was accepted and £4 declined so I don't know what to make of that.
I haven't had a bet in decades but am tempted to have one on Town going down. Seem to be generous odds about. Happy for it to lose and if it doesn't it'd buy a ST which isn't something I'm actually contemplating.
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Last time I saw odds like that, the Aussies put bets on Botham and Willis beating Australia at Headingley. The rest is history. I remember it well as I went to work and didn’t use my ticket for the last day….
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Last time I saw odds like that, the Aussies put bets on Botham and Willis beating Australia at Headingley. The rest is history. I remember it well as I went to work and didn’t use my ticket for the last day….
That game got me into watching cricket. I met Ian Botham over a decade later and told him that. Couldn't take my eyes away from what was unfolding on TV. A really nice bloke to talk to.
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