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Okay, I'll keep this short and sweet — this is based on some comments I saw online (or on social media, I forget) that put a different spin on it.
In summary, it said that football culture only seems to measure the merits of passing out from the back on goals.
How many you score from doing it; how many you concede from doing it.
In reality, it needs to be looked at differently.
For example, Town mess around with it at the back, and end up losing control of the ball and kick it out for a throw-in 10 yards inside their own half. No goal resulted from it, but it gives the opposition encouragement. They see a weakness, and attain possession of the ball in a part of the pitch they didn't earn in the traditional sense.
If a team continues to do this time and time again, they hand the initiative — and the confidence — to the other team.
So, the opposition score goal. It didn't come "directly" from a mistake while passing out from the back.
BUT — it could've resulted from increased confidence in the opposition gained by our inability to pass the ball out from the back effectively.
Artell said the goal we conceded against Stockport was the first we'd conceded directly from passing out from the back. But how many of the other 20+ goals have resulted from giving the opposition needless possession/confidence?
Just thought it was an interesting take on it. Not sure if it holds weight but it's certainly different from other comments I've read.
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Any game, you have to vary things, so that your opponents don't know what to expect.No single tactic is so good that you can or should use it every time.
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If the opposition is high pressing then hoof it, if they're sitting back then play it out. It's the goalkeeper's/defender's decision to make based on what's happening at the time. I'm pretty sure it always used to be this way. For some reason in the past few years it's become trendy to play out from the back no matter the situation. Probably because managers want their team to play like Barcelona did 10 years ago. Unfortunately most teams aren't that Barcelona team.
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Okay, I'll keep this short and sweet — this is based on some comments I saw online (or on social media, I forget) that put a different spin on it.
In summary, it said that football culture only seems to measure the merits of passing out from the back on goals.
How many you score from doing it; how many you concede from doing it.
In reality, it needs to be looked at differently.
For example, Town mess around with it at the back, and end up losing control of the ball and kick it out for a throw-in 10 yards inside their own half. No goal resulted from it, but it gives the opposition encouragement. They see a weakness, and attain possession of the ball in a part of the pitch they didn't earn in the traditional sense.
If a team continues to do this time and time again, they hand the initiative — and the confidence — to the other team.
So, the opposition score goal. It didn't come "directly" from a mistake while passing out from the back.
BUT — it could've resulted from increased confidence in the opposition gained by our inability to pass the ball out from the back effectively.
Artell said the goal we conceded against Stockport was the first we'd conceded directly from passing out from the back. But how many of the other 20+ goals have resulted from giving the opposition needless possession/confidence?
Just thought it was an interesting take on it. Not sure if it holds weight but it's certainly different from other comments I've read.
Every goal comes from giving the opposition possession. Lumping it forwards results in defenders winning more often than the attacker, then you're battling for the 2nd ball. The philosophy of playing out from the back makes sense. Whether Grimsby Town can attract players good enough to do it well is the question
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February 24, 2024, 8:24am |
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Every goal comes from giving the opposition possession. Lumping it forwards results in defenders winning more often than the attacker, then you're battling for the 2nd ball.
The philosophy of playing out from the back makes sense. Whether Grimsby Town can attract players good enough to do it well is the question
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Artell is not going to change his philosophy either way so we might aswell embrace until next weeks defeat to Forest Green when he will be down the road
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Okay, I'll keep this short and sweet — this is based on some comments I saw online (or on social media, I forget) that put a different spin on it.
In summary, it said that football culture only seems to measure the merits of passing out from the back on goals.
How many you score from doing it; how many you concede from doing it.
In reality, it needs to be looked at differently.
For example, Town mess around with it at the back, and end up losing control of the ball and kick it out for a throw-in 10 yards inside their own half. No goal resulted from it, but it gives the opposition encouragement. They see a weakness, and attain possession of the ball in a part of the pitch they didn't earn in the traditional sense.
If a team continues to do this time and time again, they hand the initiative — and the confidence — to the other team.
So, the opposition score goal. It didn't come "directly" from a mistake while passing out from the back.
BUT — it could've resulted from increased confidence in the opposition gained by our inability to pass the ball out from the back effectively.
Artell said the goal we conceded against Stockport was the first we'd conceded directly from passing out from the back. But how many of the other 20+ goals have resulted from giving the opposition needless possession/confidence?
Just thought it was an interesting take on it. Not sure if it holds weight but it's certainly different from other comments I've read.
The passing out I’m ok with the p1ssing about on the edge of the 6 yard box I’m not.
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February 24, 2024, 5:04pm |
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Like most competitive sports, it comes down to who is better. if you are better at playing it out than the opposition is at pressing, it works. Sadly the opposite is the case with us.
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Perhaps they will learn how to do it better when we are back in the NL.
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February 24, 2024, 5:34pm |
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But todays goal against came from us giving the ball away in their half and they just broke away.
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