Ivan Toney

I don't think Toney is addicted if he only had  1-25 bets a week. Surely he would have been at the bookies every day of he had an addiction..

8 months seems a bit harsh to the offence but the FA are stamping down on it to put other players off I suppose.A bit of help  and support with a suspended sentence would have been a fairer way to go in my opinion.

NAME SHAME

In the 60-s 3 Sheffield Wed players were banned for life but they Were betting their team losing so deserved everything they got.
Peter Swan. Tony Kay and Bronco Layne.  All good players but very stupid.  Swan and Kay had played for England.

A couple of people have mentioned his addiction to gambling - 1.25 bets per week over a 4 year period is hardly an uncontrollable addiction.

I have granola for breakfast nearly every morning so my granola habit is around 5 times worse that Toney's gambling issues.

The charges only refer to football bets, I accept he could have been betting on other things.

And for the record, I can stop eating granola any time I choose.....

Quoted from grimsby pete

I don't think Toney is addicted if he only had  1-25 bets a week. Surely he would have been at the bookies every day of he had an addiction..

8 months seems a bit harsh to the offence but the FA are stamping down on it to put other players off I suppose.A bit of help  and support with a suspended sentence would have been a fairer way to go in my opinion.

NAME SHAME

In the 60-s 3 Sheffield Wed players were banned for life but they Were betting their team losing so deserved everything they got.
Peter Swan. Tony Kay and Bronco Layne.  All good players but very stupid.  Swan and Kay had played for England.

PETER SWAN! Now it all makes sense....

If I was earning millions of pounds a year playing football and was aware that I might get banned for a substantial amount of time if I bet on football (and therefore, no doubt, lose a lot of his salary), I think I'd make the considered decision not to bet on football.

You can bet on racehorses, greyhounds and practically anything else you can imagine if you really feel the urge, but football? Nope.

Quoted from Maringer

If I was earning millions of pounds a year playing football and was aware that I might get banned for a substantial amount of time if I bet on football (and therefore, no doubt, lose a lot of his salary), I think I'd make the considered decision not to bet on football.

You can bet on racehorses, greyhounds and practically anything else you can imagine if you really feel the urge, but football? Nope.

If you did bet on football and chose GRIMSBY to win you would lose.

If you chose GRIMSBY to lose you would also lose.

That's because we have that annoying habit of losing when you think we would win and winning when you think we would lose.

Quoted from Maringer

If I was earning millions of pounds a year playing football and was aware that I might get banned for a substantial amount of time if I bet on football (and therefore, no doubt, lose a lot of his salary), I think I'd make the considered decision not to bet on football.

You can bet on racehorses, greyhounds and practically anything else you can imagine if you really feel the urge, but football? Nope.

Please refer to my earlier post re Ivan Toney.

Thick as mince.

Quoted from 137

I'm inclined to think Toney needs help rather than punishment.

It's not as though he needed to show a profit from the gambling - he was looking at a footballing future which would make him a
multi-millionaire by the time he retired.

I find it impossible to understand, unless there's a gene in his DNA which predisposes him to gamble.
(I've read that there's a gene which determines whether or not a person is liable to commit crime, but the above is just a guess.)

Any addiction is serious. Speculating on whether Toney has a gambling problem is pointless.

Me and Grantham Mariner both have a £5 bet each on every GTFC match & split the winnings between us. It’s a bit of fun and in monetary terms over a year is the same as playing Euromillions on Tuesday & Friday every week.

I know I’m not addicted to gambling and I’m pretty certain my dad isn’t either. Luke Waterfall’s goals in 2021/22 helped us make a small profit heading into the playoffs and having used some small wins and refunds from voided bets to put money on us getting promoted at odds of up to 20/1 when we were doing poorly over winter won us £530 which more or less paid for our STs last summer (£340+£225=£565 - 5% MT discount = £536.75.)

There’s nothing wrong with gambling, but there is a problem with how in bed football is with the industry. The EFL shouldn’t have a title sponsor of a gambling company. There should be zero gambling company sponsors on team kit. There should be zero advertising boards for gambling companies. And TV advertising should be restricted to after the watershed.

Anyway Toney, as a professional footballer, isn’t banned from gambling. He’s banned from gambling on football. So even if he was addicted there are plenty of other sports he could gamble on without a problem. But he gambled on football and there has to be a significant deterrent in the punishment he receives.

Quoted from 137

I'm inclined to think Toney needs help rather than punishment.

It's not as though he needed to show a profit from the gambling - he was looking at a footballing future which would make him a
multi-millionaire by the time he retired.

I find it impossible to understand, unless there's a gene in his DNA which predisposes him to gamble.
(I've read that there's a gene which determines whether or not a person is liable to commit crime, but the above is just a guess.)

That's a bit....national socialist..isn't it?  Or is there genuinely a crime gene? I'm gonna google it for several hours and find out now lol

I have a bet every week during the football season. I do a £2 accumulator on 6 homes that have to be evens or better, so if you get it up you are guaranteed £128 but usually it's a lot more than that if your selections are say 5/4 or 11/8 etc. As there are only about 35 weeks in a football season you only need to get it up once to be in profit. I never include Town in my bet though.

I've been doing it for about 7 or 8 years now and only once have I not not won at least once. I got it up once this season winning just over £300.

I can stop anytime I like though.  

Quoted from Les Brechin

I have a bet every week during the football season. I do a £2 accumulator on 6 homes that have to be evens or better, so if you get it up you are guaranteed £128 but usually it's a lot more than that if your selections are say 5/4 or 11/8 etc. As there are only about 35 weeks in a football season you only need to get it up once to be in profit. I never include Town in my bet though.

I've been doing it for about 7 or 8 years now and only once have I not not won at least once. I got it up once this season winning just over £300.

I can stop anytime I like though.  

How many times did you get it up this season? I hope it didn’t happen when Mrs Brechin had a headache.