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forza ivano
April 26, 2023, 10:15am

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If a thread already exists, please feel free to merge Admins.

Right, on the back of the gossip last night, plus what I've heard over the last couple of weeks, I'm going in early ,and right in at the deep end with my predictions

The story is that we are in advanced negotiations with 3 players , with PH wanting to get things sorted early doors.

But I'll start with an easy one - Bryn Morris will be released and will end up at the Poolies

the 3 targets are

1) Nick Houghton from Fylde
2) Finn Shrimpton from the scunts
3) Charles Vernham from Lincoln

Right , I'm off to put my tin hat on, and try and shelter from the incoming fire  
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April 26, 2023, 10:31am

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llllllleeetss ggeett ready to rrrruuummmmmoooouurrrr!!!

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The January one was 2000 posts and the window was a month long with games going on. I dread to think how tedious this thread maybe come the third week in May!


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April 26, 2023, 10:50am
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Can we have a reminder of who we can and can't trust?
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Is the Vernham 'h' similar to the Grimsby 's' we normally append to player names? Lots of people have claimed that's a done deal.

Some guy on the radio mentioned the Fylde fella as I was driving home from the game last night.

That is the extent of my knowledge of rumours.
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forza ivano
April 26, 2023, 10:56am

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Quoted from jamesgtfc
Can we have a reminder of who we can and can't trust?


That's the idea of the thread isnt it? We get ranked in a league table as to the success or otherwise of our predictions?
Surrey mariner ran away with if I remember correctly
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April 26, 2023, 11:03am
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Dare i say Ryan Bennett who i believe is out of contract at Cambridge and possibly Harvey Cartwright from Hull City
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Would like to see Luke Armstrong from Harrogate here. Good record for them, decent pedigree through Middlesbrough. No idea if he's under contract though, and looks like he lives in Durham area according to Wiki, which would put another hour on to his commute.

Though i think theres a car school with Green and Morris from a similar area, so get them to stay and chauffeur him. Deal done.


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April 26, 2023, 11:33am
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Well, with McAtee gone and Taylor likely gone also we need to sort out the forwards, pronto. I’d sign George Lloyd in a heartbeat but have a feeling it won’t happen, so how about:

Harry Smith - Leyton Orient (p)
Josh Umerah - Hartlepool (r)
Sam Smith - Cambridge
Dan Agyei - Crewe
Josh Kayode -  Rotherham (bit injury prone)
Ryan Bowman - Shrewsbury
Louis Moult - Motherwell

Most of those not new names from previous threads (with the possible exception of Sam Smith), but seem to fit the bill for what we’ve been missing.


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April 26, 2023, 11:34am
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Quoted from sam gy
Would like to see Luke Armstrong from Harrogate here. Good record for them, decent pedigree through Middlesbrough. No idea if he's under contract though, and looks like he lives in Durham area according to Wiki, which would put another hour on to his commute.

Though i think theres a car school with Green and Morris from a similar area, so get them to stay and chauffeur him. Deal done.


Armstrong’s got another two years on his contract. Would seem unlikely.

https://www.harrogateadvertise.....rrogate-town-3730099


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April 26, 2023, 11:38am
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Well, with McAtee gone and Taylor likely gone also we need to sort out the forwards, pronto. I’d sign George Lloyd in a heartbeat but have a feeling it won’t happen, so how about:

Harry Smith - Leyton Orient (p)
Josh Umerah - Hartlepool (r)
Sam Smith - Cambridge
Dan Agyei - Crewe
Josh Kayode -  Rotherham (bit injury prone)
Ryan Bowman - Shrewsbury
Louis Moult - Motherwell

Most of those not new names from previous threads (with the possible exception of Sam Smith), but seem to fit the bill for what we’ve been missing.


Sam Smith? They would never come here.
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April 26, 2023, 12:56pm

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Quoted from forza ivano
If a thread already exists, please feel free to merge Admins.

Right, on the back of the gossip last night, plus what I've heard over the last couple of weeks, I'm going in early ,and right in at the deep end with my predictions

The story is that we are in advanced negotiations with 3 players , with PH wanting to get things sorted early doors.

But I'll start with an easy one - Bryn Morris will be released and will end up at the Poolies



the 3 targets are

1) Nick Houghton from Fylde
2) Finn Shrimpton from the scunts
3) Charles Vernham from Lincoln

Right , I'm off to put my tin hat on, and try and shelter from the incoming fire  


Want to get business done early not heard that one before

Houghton Shrimpton and Vernam. Not heard them suggested before who are they?

Hope this thread quality is going to improve with age
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Might do if you keep your miserable balderdash out of it.
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Quick reminder - this thread’s meant to be a laugh so please try and keep it that way. It’s a long old summer so don’t come in here trying to neg everyone out & boring everyone. Go outside and get some sunshine.
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Quoted from ska face
Quick reminder - this thread’s meant to be a laugh so please try and keep it that way. It’s a long old summer so don’t come in here trying to neg everyone out & boring everyone. Go outside and get some sunshine.


Like your post three  above you mean
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April 26, 2023, 1:20pm
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Quoted from ska face
Quick reminder - this thread’s meant to be a laugh so please try and keep it that way. It’s a long old summer so don’t come in here trying to neg everyone out & boring everyone. Go outside and get some sunshine.


Nnnnnnninnneeee
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April 26, 2023, 1:32pm
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Sam Smith? They would never come here.


I`d be worried about his fitness. He`s put a lot weight on since his first album.


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Omar and Tshimanga


OMAR DOESN`T WANT TO FUC......oh never mind.


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Quoted from buckstown
Omar and Tshimanga


Considering Tshimanga is rumoured to be the player that had an agreement in place and his agent pulled a bait and switch with Hurst and everybody waiting for him to arrive and sign on the dotted line to announce he'd signed for somebody else I'd be surprised if Hursty would go near that again.  

Omar made it clear several times he's not interested in coming back. I think the fishy has gone from clingy ex lover to full on stalker at this point. After a mate working at Donny told me that we'd come on for him on loan and they were practically trying to drag him to Grimsby because they wanted him gone but he still refused us I gave up on the idea that he wants to come back ever.
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April 26, 2023, 2:00pm

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Sam Smith - Cambridge



They would be a good signing.
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IN BOUND ⚽⚽😂😂
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April 26, 2023, 2:19pm

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IN BOUND ⚽⚽😂😂


You should face instant relegation for that post!
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If build and physicality are qualities needed to replace Taylor, with a bit better mobility thrown, would Kabamba of Barnet be worth a look at?

Whoever is signed, Hurst has stated he wants some bigger players in to combat defenders bullying us, especially at set pieces.

Also, players needed who will feed from good home support and give what everyone hopes will be some entertainment as well as good results.

If Carlsberg did goalscoring Souzas ??

#wishfulthinking!
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April 26, 2023, 3:05pm

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Honestly believe Bennett has legs this time, we weren't far off the required numbers previously and it's costing him a wedge to stay down at Cambridge, so somewhere in the middle should be good enough 🤷
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April 26, 2023, 3:07pm
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Well, with McAtee gone and Taylor likely gone also we need to sort out the forwards, pronto. I’d sign George Lloyd in a heartbeat but have a feeling it won’t happen, so how about:

Harry Smith - Leyton Orient (p)
Josh Umerah - Hartlepool (r)
Sam Smith - Cambridge
Dan Agyei - Crewe
Josh Kayode -  Rotherham (bit injury prone)
Ryan Bowman - Shrewsbury
Louis Moult - Motherwell

Most of those not new names from previous threads (with the possible exception of Sam Smith), but seem to fit the bill for what we’ve been missing.


Sam Smith with a good head and Moult as a chaser would give me a thirst for next season...

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April 26, 2023, 3:33pm
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I think George Lloyd and Andy Smith are realistic acquisitions this summer. Most of the big target men doing well in the National League are quite old: Kabamba is 30 and his EFL record is pretty poor, Inih Effiong is 32 and has scored 1 goal in 9 EFL appearances. At that kind of age, previous performance at this level is very important.

Emile Acquah has 13 in 44 games for Maidenhead, who could get relegated on Saturday. At 22, he's potentially worth a punt and less likely to have a settled family restricting his options.

Moving away from the same names we will no doubt see recycled on here between now and 31st August, what about Max Mata who has started the season well for Sligo? 22 years old and a New Zealand international.

Josh Ginnelly was decent for Lincoln a few years ago, he's 26 now and has scored 10 goals for Hearts. I'm not sure of his contract status but we need a winger. With Vernam definitely signing for what feels like the 4th consecutive transfer window and Otis Khan, another good winger would give us some great options.
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April 26, 2023, 4:29pm
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Personally would be happy with Umerah, Armstrong, Lloyd and Orsi as our 4 forward players as they provide the right mix of height, physicality, skill, work-rate and a few goals. Just need some others to provide the ammunition.
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April 26, 2023, 4:37pm

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I'll put my 50 pence worth in, i can see Kings Lynn striker Omotayo who has 20 gls this season signing .




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Wouldn’t mind Josh Coburn, age 20 from Middlesbrough but has proved himself on loan in L1 this season so probably a tad over ambitious.


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Is Bennett looking forward to putting Bale in his pocket?


To quote - Insanely amazing or amazingly insane. Life as a Town Fan.
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Is Bennett looking forward to putting Bale in his pocket?


Can you imagine what Bale would do to most L2 defences? He'd be like Zava at Richmond.


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That's the idea of the thread isnt it? We get ranked in a league table as to the success or otherwise of our predictions?
Surrey mariner ran away with if I remember correctly


Does that mean a clean slate?
Get in!!
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Hartlepool fans reckon Umerah is L1 bound.

Ollie Palmer might end up getting binned off by Wrexham, hasn't had a great second half to the season but I reckon he could do a job still. Probably worth 10-15 league goals I reckon. Wages might be a stumbling block though as I'd imagine we wouldn't match what he's on at Wrexham.

I'd love Armstrong personally, but I reckon he'll have other suitors. He'd be my #1 pick of all the big man strikers mentioned so far.
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I'm looking forward to reading what intricate details Ryan Bennett tells random people when he's out walking his dog and when the first arrivals start checking in at the club hotel.
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Jesse Debrah (Halifax) replacement for Smith...
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I’ll start the upcoming annual ‘McAtee is coming back’ rumour that will no doubt run alongside the Bogle and Vernam rumours!
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I’ll start the upcoming annual ‘McAtee is coming back’ rumour that will no doubt run alongside the Bogle and Vernam rumours!


Being totally serious for a moment, Omar Bugiel might actually be a serious shout.  


A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner.
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Being totally serious for a moment, Omar Bugiel might actually be a serious shout.  


But would the chant work?
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Can you imagine what Bale would do to most L2 defences? He'd be like Zava at Richmond.


Can't walk without legs.......it's a joke!!!!!!
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I`d be worried about his fitness. He`s put a lot weight on since his first album.


The new McNulty?  
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Quoted from Wainmans Gloves
Dare i say Ryan Bennett who i believe is out of contract at Cambridge and possibly Harvey Cartwright from Hull City


Burnt bridges with Bennett already I believe , likely to be heading to Rotherham I have heard.


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Burnt bridges with Bennett already I believe , likely to be heading to Rotherham I have heard.


Yeah I don't know about others but I kind of got the impression it had not been an entirely happy on both sides parting of ways last season, might have been totally wrong though.
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Not got any gossip, but I was thinking that if Hartlepool can recruit Umerah, who up until that point had been very southern based, and Harrogate can recruit Armstrong, then I'm sure there are plenty of others out there that we can recruit ourselves without trying to prise those two away from their respective clubs.

I'm hoping we are getting in someone a bit more refined myself, but wouldn't spit my dummy out if we did sign either of those.
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Rumours circulating round the pontoon yesterday are that the Vernam deal is done and........ Max Crocombe has agreed terms with Falkirk....
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Rumours circulating round the pontoon yesterday are that the Vernam deal is done and........ Max Crocombe has agreed terms with Falkirk....


Falkirk of Scottish League One? A semi-professional division including other Scottish lesser lights as Kelty Hearts, FC Edinburgh and Peterhead.

Someone hasn’t properly thought that “rumour” through before making it up.


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A whole summer and a transfer thread with nothing to distract us with, remember this is what we’ve been training for guys - you can do it just dig deep.

Given the closeness of Vernam in the summer and Jan windows and the lack of cover for Lincoln been the only issue, I’d think this is quite likely.

Bennett seems abit of a widely assumed thing that’s going to happen.

Other than that, not a clue.

Fasten in it’s going to be a hell of a ride!


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Ok Rumour Fans, the standings in table of trust at the end of last summer’s transfer window looked like this -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mendonca1995
Corkyefes
coddy60

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
It Bites (R)
Lukeo (R)
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)


January was an absolute skip fire. Mendonca1995’s source at an unnamed local hotel let him down badly and absolutely torched his reputation. Usually steady Hagrid went big on deadline day only for the Dallas deal to disintegrate, along with his reliability. Pontoonlew & Surrey97 kept their heads down in Jan, wisely, but at least one good source appears to have dried up for pontoonlew this season.

All you really need to know is that if It Bites says there’s one incoming, there aint, and whilst wozofgrimsby is a lovely bloke he’s never called a correct transfer target in the 15 years I’ve known him.

Let the bullshîtting commence!
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Quoted from ska face
Ok Rumour Fans, the standings in table of trust at the end of last summer’s transfer window looked like this -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mendonca1995
Corkyefes
coddy60

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It Bites (R)
Lukeo (R)
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)


January was an absolute skip fire. Mendonca1995’s source at an unnamed local hotel let him down badly and absolutely torched his reputation. Usually steady Hagrid went big on deadline day only for the Dallas deal to disintegrate, along with his reliability. Pontoonlew & Surrey97 kept their heads down in Jan, wisely, but at least one good source appears to have dried up for pontoonlew this season.

All you really need to know is that if It Bites says there’s one incoming, there aint, and whilst wozofgrimsby is a lovely bloke he’s never called a correct transfer target in the 15 years I’ve known him.

Let the bullshîtting commence!


You're basically saying I'm the Scunthorpe United of the prediction world ........ 🙄😂
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Honestly believe Bennett has legs this time, we weren't far off the required numbers previously and it's costing him a wedge to stay down at Cambridge, so somewhere in the middle should be good enough 🤷


Didn't he have a fall out with Hurst? Thats what was going round the main stand at the time



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I would have a punt on Gareth Bale  


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Falkirk of Scottish League One? A semi-professional division including other Scottish lesser lights as Kelty Hearts, FC Edinburgh and Peterhead.

Someone hasn’t properly thought that “rumour” through before making it up.


Well all I know is that rumour came from someone within the club who sits 2 rows up from me...and I also questioned the likelihood due to finances and if we can't compete with someone like Falkirk we truly are screwed!!..
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Quoted from ska face
Ok Rumour Fans, the standings in table of trust at the end of last summer’s transfer window looked like this -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mendonca1995
Corkyefes
coddy60

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
It Bites (R)
Lukeo (R)
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)


January was an absolute skip fire. Mendonca1995’s source at an unnamed local hotel let him down badly and absolutely torched his reputation. Usually steady Hagrid went big on deadline day only for the Dallas deal to disintegrate, along with his reliability. Pontoonlew & Surrey97 kept their heads down in Jan, wisely, but at least one good source appears to have dried up for pontoonlew this season.

All you really need to know is that if It Bites says there’s one incoming, there aint, and whilst wozofgrimsby is a lovely bloke he’s never called a correct transfer target in the 15 years I’ve known him.

Let the bullshîtting commence!


Am sure I got one right in the winter one 😕

Brian Maher (goalkeeper at Derry city) is rumoured to be wanted by a number of league 1/ league 2 clubs.



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Well all I know is that rumour came from someone within the club who sits 2 rows up from me...and I also questioned the likelihood due to finances and if we can't compete with someone like Falkirk we truly are screwed!!..


Average gates in Scottish League One are about 36.

If Max Crocombe signs for Falkirk this summer I’ll insert an entire haggis into my rectum in front of the Pontoon, first game of next season.


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Well all I know is that rumour came from someone within the club who sits 2 rows up from me...and I also questioned the likelihood due to finances and if we can't compete with someone like Falkirk we truly are screwed!!..


Assumes we’re trying to compete..


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Nice place is Falkirk, with the Falkirk Wheel and the Kelpies.

Falkirk Stadium is very tidy too, but can't see it being a destination for an EFL league 2 player.
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Day one and already the paranoia is bubbling whilst the 'friends who work at the club' spilling their guts about the transfer strategy is increasing.


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I'll put my 50 pence worth in, i can see Kings Lynn striker Omotayo who has 20 gls this season signing .


weren't we rumoured to have had an eye on him last season? Seem to remember that he wasn't very good in the game there last season and people saying that thy hoped the rumour wasn't true
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weren't we rumoured to have had an eye on him last season? Seem to remember that he wasn't very good in the game there last season and people saying that thy hoped the rumour wasn't true


I've seen a fair bit of King's Lynn this season and Gold Omotayo is nowhere near good enough for this level.
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Six pages of absolutely intercourse all. A promising start.
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Wonder how long it will be till this thread passes the scunthorpe thread count will it happen before the season end and just how many pages of drivel will we read before the first ball of the 23/24 season is kicked in anger
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Six pages of absolutely intercourse all. A promising start.


It hasn’t even got good yet…

When’s the bloke with the mate booking rooms in a local hotel back?


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Quoted from ska face
Ok Rumour Fans, the standings in table of trust at the end of last summer’s transfer window looked like this -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
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Mendonca1995
Corkyefes
coddy60

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It Bites (R)
Lukeo (R)
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)


January was an absolute skip fire. Mendonca1995’s source at an unnamed local hotel let him down badly and absolutely torched his reputation. Usually steady Hagrid went big on deadline day only for the Dallas deal to disintegrate, along with his reliability. Pontoonlew & Surrey97 kept their heads down in Jan, wisely, but at least one good source appears to have dried up for pontoonlew this season.


I genuinely have visions of you in a smoke filled office, like a 1970s bookie, with a big intercourse off spreadsheet and wall charts trying to keep across the current standings… Best of luck mate! 😂


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coddy60 is this year’s dark horse mate, good pedigree and steady form, just needs to kick on with one big win this summer.

The real fun is in trying to work out who the sources are and whether they can be trusted. It’s like Inception & Moneyball all rolled into one. I had planned to go back through the Jan thread and pull out every name that was mentioned, just to show how badly it went for everyone, maybe I will if I can be ársed.

As for my own predictions, reckon we’ll see Bennett and Vernam in based on nothing but them being a decent fit. Would’ve liked Smith at Orient but think his run at Barnet will attract a few clubs down south & he’ll stay local. At 28, Haughton must think this may be his last chance of a decent league club so might be worth a shout. Ultimately I think it’ll be more George Lloyd-style signings, relatively obscure & underperforming but Hurst can get a tune out of them.

Up the rumour mill
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I'm certainly hoping to see some names which are almost impossible to type, let alone pronounce, so that people can feverishly misspell them. I always had to check how to type Dieseruvwe (hope I got that right).

I'd imagine these would mostly be African names, but a player of Polish origin might be able to sneak in there.
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That relegation zone needs some competition I reckon, so here I am!

With Crocombe off to Falkirk, Iceland have finally decided to apologise for the cod wars and to show they are truly sorry are facilitating the transfer of Jokull Andresson to Town on a season long loan from Reading.
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coddy60 is this year’s dark horse mate, good pedigree and steady form, just needs to kick on with one big win this summer.

The real fun is in trying to work out who the sources are and whether they can be trusted. It’s like Inception & Moneyball all rolled into one. I had planned to go back through the Jan thread and pull out every name that was mentioned, just to show how badly it went for everyone, maybe I will if I can be ársed.

As for my own predictions, reckon we’ll see Bennett and Vernam in based on nothing but them being a decent fit. Would’ve liked Smith at Orient but think his run at Barnet will attract a few clubs down south & he’ll stay local. At 28, Haughton must think this may be his last chance of a decent league club so might be worth a shout. Ultimately I think it’ll be more George Lloyd-style signings, relatively obscure & underperforming but Hurst can get a tune out of them.

Up the rumour mill


I already posted on the Fishy several days ago that Vernam was a done deal.  In January. Lincoln wouldn't release him until they had his replacement who was coming from Portsmouth [Recco Hackett-Fairchild] but they in turn wanted to confirm a player in from Exeter and that fell through, so no move for Vernam to us.   Allegedly, the source, who will not be identified, is involved at Lincoln at a high level.

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Quoted from ska face
coddy60 is this year’s dark horse mate, good pedigree and steady form, just needs to kick on with one big win this summer.

The real fun is in trying to work out who the sources are and whether they can be trusted. It’s like Inception & Moneyball all rolled into one. I had planned to go back through the Jan thread and pull out every name that was mentioned, just to show how badly it went for everyone, maybe I will if I can be ársed.

As for my own predictions, reckon we’ll see Bennett and Vernam in based on nothing but them being a decent fit. Would’ve liked Smith at Orient but think his run at Barnet will attract a few clubs down south & he’ll stay local. At 28, Haughton must think this may be his last chance of a decent league club so might be worth a shout. Ultimately I think it’ll be more George Lloyd-style signings, relatively obscure & underperforming but Hurst can get a tune out of them.

Up the rumour mill


My main source was very quiet in Jan, obviously coz sod all was happening, but he did say, which I pmd you, that Dallas was never on the cards, he made his intentions clear to Hursty.

Hoping for a better Summer, but I may have already peaked 😔
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Dallas is a muppet. No thanks EFL football at a big club. I prefer the national league and the play off lottery.


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My main source was very quiet in Jan, obviously coz sod all was happening, but he did say, which I pmd you, that Dallas was never on the cards, he made his intentions clear to Hursty.

Hoping for a better Summer, but I may have already peaked 😔


Saying that, after speaking with people very close to Bennett, we were about a grand per week off his deal at Cambridge.  We matched what Derby and Rotherham offered. IMO another 500 per week should be enough to get him, but that is just opinion...
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Honestly believe Bennett has legs this time, we weren't far off the required numbers previously and it's costing him a wedge to stay down at Cambridge, so somewhere in the middle should be good enough 🤷


Somewhere in the middle between Cambridge & Grimsby? I doubt Boston United would be able to afford him.
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Dallas is a muppet. No thanks EFL football at a big club. I prefer the national league and the play off lottery.


No, Dallas is a genius.

Could have joined a League 2 club on a 2 and a half year contract with around £100,000 going to Solihull Moors.

He’s got an interim pay rise until the end of June by joining Chesterfield on loan and when he’s out of contract in the summer he’s free to join any club he likes and that £100,000 that Solihull would have got will go to him instead.

You can’t fault him. Especially as he will have more options in the summer than he did in January.
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Just a little list of potential players I would like / may be in the realms of possibility of signing (Not that we have been linked or have any interest just to throw my two pence in there).

GK - Paul Farman (Barrow) - Decent L2 keeper and has vastly improved since last time I saw him at Lincoln back in the non-league days when we used to batter them all the time, believe Barrow will offer him new terms but surely we can offer more than them?

GK - Scott Flinders (Mansfield) - Been around at this level for a while, give Max some competition?

LB - Chris Hussey (Stockport) - They have a dilemma of having a riches of players for their disposal in their squad, Hussey is a seasoned EFL player and even at around 33/34 has had a strong season with Stockport, only kept out by Ryan Rydel who by all accounts is a player that is playing out of his skin and keeping Hussey out the side, still 10 appearances for Stockport and 2 goals and considered to be very solid and still plays the wing-back role with ease. Could provide good competition to Glennon.

LB - Connor Wood (Orient) - On loan at Colchester from January but had good pedigree in Bradford and Orient to think there is something about him. Never seen him but had average reviews he's a solid enough LB for L2.

LB - Harry Boyes (Sheff Utd) - The lad who was on loan at Solihull in the Vanarama has been on loan at Lincoln & Forest Green I believe, possibly made the step up too quick as said he's not looked awful but not looked spectacular. Was in team of the season for Solihull and looked very good. I'd love to have him here on loan next year.

CB - Jesse Debrah (Halifax) - Hursty having pillaged Halifax in the summer for Maher and Green will know them well and sure he's kept a keen eye on. Been called up to England 'C' a few times and been one of the stand-outs in non league this year.

CB - Yann Songo'o (Bradford) - Experienced centre half at this level and can play just infront of the back-four aswell. Give us that bite that Green gives us aswell as physicality.

CB - Joe Lewis (Stockport) - Left fotted, had abit of a hard time really at Stockport but was one of Torquay's best players in the non-league may be possibly worth a punt?

CB - Manny Monthe (Walsall) - Beast of a man and always been brilliant when I've watched him. Strong, Physical and wins everything in the air, would give us much needed height in the team.

RB - Jamie Sterry (Hartlepool) - I think that Sterry will be in the ilk of Stockport or lower L1 clubs and has probably been Hartlepools only saving grace this year alongside Umerah and Kemp. Be a luxury signing but I don't think that we will be the only ones in for his signature.

CM - Adam Clayton (Bradford) - Every good side in this league has someone that's been there and done it and has experience playing in leagues above and controlling the games. He's out of contract at the end of the season and depends if he wants to carry on or hangs his boots up might have one last season in him and being fairly local.. May be a long shot.

CM - Antoni Sarcevic (Stockport) - Stockport seem to be letting go and another player who's done it for teams in the league above and been doing it for Stockport recently, believe he was the lad who got the red against us in non-league (may be wrong though). Very classy ball player and makes things tick, depending on what formation we are playing could be worth having a look at.

CM - Darren Pratley (Orient) - If they choose to release him and don't think he's up to L1 level. Another leader who's been there and done it, truly believe we need someone like this next year like a Diz to take games by the scruff of the neck when they are 50/50 and hanging in the balance.

RW - Harry Chapman (Bradford) - Hurst raved mad about him in the early fixture against Bradford almost lauding a player of his quality playing in this league and that he's absolutely streets ahead in quality. By all accounts Bradford aren't the keenest on him so if willing to let go believe Hursty will go in for him.

RW - Dan Aygei (Crewe) - Looked a handful the other night against us and has hit decent numbers. A winger who can commit his full-back I think that he would absolutely flourish here.

LW - Charles Vernham (Lincoln) - Worst kept secret I think, never should of really left us as it's not gone to plan since, a small little spell at Bradford but it's been made public knowledge we've tried at getting him over the line on more than one occasion and I think he will give us that little bit of stardust quality.

LW - Dan Kemp (MK Dons) - Tore us to shreds the other week playing for Hartlepool and I think since signing on loan in Jan he's been head and shoulders above, got that class about him that you rarely see at L2 level. I think MK Dons could keep hold though if they manage to get relegated into this league.

ST - Baker-Richardson (Crewe) - Caused us problems soon as he came on the other night, the sort of signings we should be looking at, a decent height with decent build and isn't a slouch either. Would like him here.

ST - Harry Smith (Orient) - Scored like 9 in 12 for Barnet on loan? Big battering ram of a man and another option for Hursty. Seen him play a few times on BT Sport and seems to win just about everything. Has been mentions of him having gambling problems though and being away from home might turn his head to that? A gamble for Hursty I don't think that he will take.

ST - Josh Umerah (Hartlepool) - Scored goals in a bad side, Big man and scores goals. Will be well sought after this summer and suspect we won't be the only ones in for him.

ST - Luke Armstrong (Harrogate) - Runs all day, scores goals and is a massive pest, this would be the signing out of the lot for me to push the boat out and go get him. I think he would hit 15-20 for us.
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This thread could break the record for the most misspellings of Vernam ever recorded in one place.
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No, Dallas is a genius.

Could have joined a League 2 club on a 2 and a half year contract with around £100,000 going to Solihull Moors.

He’s got an interim pay rise until the end of June by joining Chesterfield on loan and when he’s out of contract in the summer he’s free to join any club he likes and that £100,000 that Solihull would have got will go to him instead.

You can’t fault him. Especially as he will have more options in the summer than he did in January.


We’ll see. How will he get 100K?


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We’ll see. How will he get 100K?


Simple. Clubs were looking to pay £100k for his services and a basic wage of, let's say £2k per week. Once he is a free agent, he will be commanding £3k per week on a 2 year deal or £2.6k per week on a 3 year deal meaning he gets the £100k rather than his former employer. I'm not comparing Mbappe to Dallas but this is why Mbappe wound his PSG contract because he could then command a significantly higher wage in the marketplace as a free agent when he subsequently resigned for PSG.
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This thread could break the record for the most misspellings of Vernam ever recorded in one place.


You mean Vernams


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No rumours from me this summer as my source has now left the club, however I would be happy with names picked from the below list, which I believe could be realistic signings….

Keepers
Harvey Cartwirght - Very good as competition for Max

Defenders
Ryan Bennett – Surely we can persuade him this summer.
Harry Boyes (Loan) - Very impressed when on loan at Solihull
Jesse Debrah – Young and had a good season with Halifax.

Midfielders
Vernam - We know what hes about.
Joe Sbarra – Probably unlikely as in contract but may fancy league football now.
Dan Agyei - Scored 14 this season from the wing at Crewe. Out of contract.

Strikers
George Lloyd – May be interested in coming but a long way from home. Cheltenham probably give him pre-season to prove himself.
Dallas – Assume he will try and push for League 1 side though.
Harry Smith – Had a decent loan at Barnet and maybe worth the punt
Nick Haughton – Risky one as in a couple leagues below and would prefer him to be younger, but if he was cheap, it’s worth a gamble.
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Re Bennett, does anyone have any idea on how he's done at Cambridge? Opinions from fans etc?

You'd think he'd be one of the best defenders in league one still..


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I’m out of the running this season lads, the loss of a source coupled with an incredibly tight ship being run that has silenced another has left me empty handed.

I’ll look back on last summer with fondness though. Someone give me a nudge when Surrey posts something, only person worth listening to.
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Quoted from Poojah


Average gates in Scottish League One are about 36.

If Max Crocombe signs for Falkirk this summer I’ll insert an entire haggis into my rectum in front of the Pontoon, first game of next season.


Screenshotted just in case


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Is the Bentley scale still in operation for this thread or is that for a genuine rumour thread?


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Quoted from pontoonlew
I’m out of the running this season lads, the loss of a source coupled with an incredibly tight ship being run that has silenced another has left me empty handed.

I’ll look back on last summer with fondness though. Someone give me a nudge when Surrey posts something, only person worth listening to.


Jesus. Things are gonna get ugly.


For those on social media, the gold standard for rumours tends to be Pete o’Rourke and Football Insider:

https://twitter.com/sportspeteo?s=21&t=T3cXH3zhRV4z6deXU9rfJw

https://twitter.com/footyinsider247?s=21&t=T3cXH3zhRV4z6deXU9rfJw

There’s some absolute toilet out there, mind.
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I already posted on the Fishy several days ago that Vernam was a done deal.  In January. Lincoln wouldn't release him until they had his replacement who was coming from Portsmouth [Recco Hackett-Fairchild] but they in turn wanted to confirm a player in from Exeter and that fell through, so no move for Vernam to us.   Allegedly, the source, who will not be identified, is involved at Lincoln at a high level.



Could the source be the Bishop of Lincoln!



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Quoted from chaos33


We’ll see. How will he get 100K?


Signing on fee. Increased wages.

This is how Aaron Ramsey got paid £400,000 a week at Juventus. Juve would have happily paid £30m to Arsenal for him. But as it was a free transfer he got that money instead via an eye watering weekly wage.

Clubs look at the total value of the transfer- transfer fee, signing on fee and weekly wages.
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Quoted from DB


Could the source be the Bishop of Lincoln!



And the Lord said unto the Corinthians, Charlie Vernam to Grimsby is a doneth deal. And the Lord saw that it was good. Amen.


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Probably too high a realistic try as a re-loan,  but I'd love to see Matete back in midfield, as he is not making the Sunderland squad at the moment, but don't know if that's an injury like Embleton, or just not getting picked??

Strong player who stood out in his previous spell !
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Probably too high a realistic try as a re-loan,  but I'd love to see Matete back in midfield, as he is not making the Sunderland squad at the moment, but don't know if that's an injury like Embleton, or just not getting picked??

Strong player who stood out in his previous spell !


Isn't he on loan at Plymouth
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Quoted from Poojah


Average gates in Scottish League One are about 36.

If Max Crocombe signs for Falkirk this summer I’ll insert an entire haggis into my rectum in front of the Pontoon, first game of next season.


I'll buy you said haggis but I ain't inserting it!!
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Matete is at Plymouth


Where he's managed an incredible 7 yellows in 833 League 1 minutes!

(Less prolific than his Sunderland record tbf)


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Make sure it's a big haggis 😳
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Just a little list of potential players I would like / may be in the realms of possibility of signing (Not that we have been linked or have any interest just to throw my two pence in there).

GK - Paul Farman (Barrow) - Decent L2 keeper and has vastly improved since last time I saw him at Lincoln back in the non-league days when we used to batter them all the time, believe Barrow will offer him new terms but surely we can offer more than them?

GK - Scott Flinders (Mansfield) - Been around at this level for a while, give Max some competition?

LB - Chris Hussey (Stockport) - They have a dilemma of having a riches of players for their disposal in their squad, Hussey is a seasoned EFL player and even at around 33/34 has had a strong season with Stockport, only kept out by Ryan Rydel who by all accounts is a player that is playing out of his skin and keeping Hussey out the side, still 10 appearances for Stockport and 2 goals and considered to be very solid and still plays the wing-back role with ease. Could provide good competition to Glennon.

LB - Connor Wood (Orient) - On loan at Colchester from January but had good pedigree in Bradford and Orient to think there is something about him. Never seen him but had average reviews he's a solid enough LB for L2.

LB - Harry Boyes (Sheff Utd) - The lad who was on loan at Solihull in the Vanarama has been on loan at Lincoln & Forest Green I believe, possibly made the step up too quick as said he's not looked awful but not looked spectacular. Was in team of the season for Solihull and looked very good. I'd love to have him here on loan next year.

CB - Jesse Debrah (Halifax) - Hursty having pillaged Halifax in the summer for Maher and Green will know them well and sure he's kept a keen eye on. Been called up to England 'C' a few times and been one of the stand-outs in non league this year.

CB - Yann Songo'o (Bradford) - Experienced centre half at this level and can play just infront of the back-four aswell. Give us that bite that Green gives us aswell as physicality.

CB - Joe Lewis (Stockport) - Left fotted, had abit of a hard time really at Stockport but was one of Torquay's best players in the non-league may be possibly worth a punt?

CB - Manny Monthe (Walsall) - Beast of a man and always been brilliant when I've watched him. Strong, Physical and wins everything in the air, would give us much needed height in the team.

RB - Jamie Sterry (Hartlepool) - I think that Sterry will be in the ilk of Stockport or lower L1 clubs and has probably been Hartlepools only saving grace this year alongside Umerah and Kemp. Be a luxury signing but I don't think that we will be the only ones in for his signature.

CM - Adam Clayton (Bradford) - Every good side in this league has someone that's been there and done it and has experience playing in leagues above and controlling the games. He's out of contract at the end of the season and depends if he wants to carry on or hangs his boots up might have one last season in him and being fairly local.. May be a long shot.

CM - Antoni Sarcevic (Stockport) - Stockport seem to be letting go and another player who's done it for teams in the league above and been doing it for Stockport recently, believe he was the lad who got the red against us in non-league (may be wrong though). Very classy ball player and makes things tick, depending on what formation we are playing could be worth having a look at.

CM - Darren Pratley (Orient) - If they choose to release him and don't think he's up to L1 level. Another leader who's been there and done it, truly believe we need someone like this next year like a Diz to take games by the scruff of the neck when they are 50/50 and hanging in the balance.

RW - Harry Chapman (Bradford) - Hurst raved mad about him in the early fixture against Bradford almost lauding a player of his quality playing in this league and that he's absolutely streets ahead in quality. By all accounts Bradford aren't the keenest on him so if willing to let go believe Hursty will go in for him.

RW - Dan Aygei (Crewe) - Looked a handful the other night against us and has hit decent numbers. A winger who can commit his full-back I think that he would absolutely flourish here.

LW - Charles Vernham (Lincoln) - Worst kept secret I think, never should of really left us as it's not gone to plan since, a small little spell at Bradford but it's been made public knowledge we've tried at getting him over the line on more than one occasion and I think he will give us that little bit of stardust quality.

LW - Dan Kemp (MK Dons) - Tore us to shreds the other week playing for Hartlepool and I think since signing on loan in Jan he's been head and shoulders above, got that class about him that you rarely see at L2 level. I think MK Dons could keep hold though if they manage to get relegated into this league.

ST - Baker-Richardson (Crewe) - Caused us problems soon as he came on the other night, the sort of signings we should be looking at, a decent height with decent build and isn't a slouch either. Would like him here.

ST - Harry Smith (Orient) - Scored like 9 in 12 for Barnet on loan? Big battering ram of a man and another option for Hursty. Seen him play a few times on BT Sport and seems to win just about everything. Has been mentions of him having gambling problems though and being away from home might turn his head to that? A gamble for Hursty I don't think that he will take.

ST - Josh Umerah (Hartlepool) - Scored goals in a bad side, Big man and scores goals. Will be well sought after this summer and suspect we won't be the only ones in for him.

ST - Luke Armstrong (Harrogate) - Runs all day, scores goals and is a massive pest, this would be the signing out of the lot for me to push the boat out and go get him. I think he would hit 15-20 for us.


Some interesting names in there , especially Boyes and the Halifax lad. I think we were in the hunt for Boyes 12 months ago
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Re Bennett, does anyone have any idea on how he's done at Cambridge? Opinions from fans etc?

You'd think he'd be one of the best defenders in league one still..


Was wondering the same, so looked on the Cambridge forum. Has done very well:

"I'd be delighted to keep hold of RBennett, he's been very good despite our lack of success."

Also:

"R Bennett won’t be with us next year, having had my ear to the floor in cleethorpes"

The latter comment may just be one of theirs who's read the Fishy and wants to appear 'itk', of course.

Would be a top-class signing, assuming personalities don't get in the way.
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Some interesting names in there , especially Boyes and the Halifax lad. I think we were in the hunt for Boyes 12 months ago


Didn't he used to have a shop in Freeman Street?
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Quoted from GtfcGarner
Just a little list of potential players I would like / may be in the realms of possibility of signing (Not that we have been linked or have any interest just to throw my two pence in there).

GK - Paul Farman (Barrow) - Decent L2 keeper and has vastly improved since last time I saw him at Lincoln back in the non-league days when we used to batter them all the time, believe Barrow will offer him new terms but surely we can offer more than them?

Farman has already signed an extension at Barrow mate. I had him down as a keeper I'd have liked and one that I thought might have been a goer as well. Great post though, a few names I wasn't up to speed on there.
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I thought Mayonese was a good defender started slowly but grew with every game




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I thought Mayonese was a good defender started slowly but grew with every game


Worth signing just for hearing Gary Croft trying to say his name.


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Make sure it's a big haggis 😳


And it’s going in ‘dry’  


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Worth signing just for hearing Gary Croft trying to say his name.


haha oops I meant Menayese.




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Nick Haughton would be a good signing Jamey Osbourne vibes


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My mate plays in the Conference North and rates Haughton very highly. Not convinced he really wants to play higher though.
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My mate plays in the Conference North and rates Haughton very highly. Not convinced he really wants to play higher though.


Your mates Nick Haughton, isn’t he? 😂


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No he plays for Bradford PA. They're playing them on Saturday so I've asked him to sound him out. It's the only chance I've got of a scoop   Fylde need a win for the title and Park Avenue to have a chance of staying up so suspect he has no intention at all of asking for me!
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Well all I know is that rumour came from someone within the club who sits 2 rows up from me...and I also questioned the likelihood due to finances and if we can't compete with someone like Falkirk we truly are screwed!!..


There is a rumour on tinternet that Crocombe is moving abroad, something to do with his wife's/partners modelling career.


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Yeah, Falkirk’s abroad isn’t it?
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Yeah, Falkirk’s abroad isn’t it?


only if Hamza Yusuf somehow proves everybody wrong!
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Yeah, Falkirk’s abroad isn’t it?


Well they talk a different language.
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Am sure someone mentioned that crocombe had an offer from a Scottish Prem side. I thought it was Motherwell

Total guesses but, here goes;

Striker wise : tyreece simpson from Huddersfield. Seem to think we were linked with him last summer

                       Conor Wilkinson from Walsall. Tall target man the type of player hurst needs. May end up back down south.

Keeper : Josh Vickers from rovrum. Out of contract end of the season



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Just to throw another of my long-term targets in, Josh Kayode might be available.

Big strong forward, been on loan from Rotherham at MK Dons but has had a nightmare year for injuries and barely played all season. Had previously done well on loan at Carlisle in L2, managed nearly 30 L1 appearances last season, and was in high demand last summer.

Only 12 months left on his deal at Rotherham and a lot of their fans can’t see him making it there. Might depend on whether they stay up or get relegated this season, but would they rather let him go for a fee in the summer or chance another loan/spell on the bench?
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Am sure someone mentioned that crocombe had an offer from a Scottish Prem side. I thought it was Motherwell

Total guesses but, here goes;

Striker wise : tyreece simpson from Huddersfield. Seem to think we were linked with him last summer

                       Conor Wilkinson from Walsall. Tall target man the type of player hurst needs. May end up back down south.

Keeper : Josh Vickers from rovrum. Out of contract end of the season



Simpson signed for Ipshit as a scholar when Ph was there. The g.l. would be known to.our head of recruitment.  Incidentally I think we might a few of our targets having been ex Imps  or at least on their rafar
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Yeah, Falkirk’s abroad isn’t it?


Wasn’t there a Welsh Rugby Union player at the end of his contract who announced he was leaving club in Wales and spoke about the desire to experience a different culture. Everyone assumed he was going to a French team and he joined Sale Sharks.
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Just to throw another of my long-term targets in, Josh Kayode might be available.

Big strong forward, been on loan from Rotherham at MK Dons but has had a nightmare year for injuries and barely played all season. Had previously done well on loan at Carlisle in L2, managed nearly 30 L1 appearances last season, and was in high demand last summer.

Only 12 months left on his deal at Rotherham and a lot of their fans can’t see him making it there. Might depend on whether they stay up or get relegated this season, but would they rather let him go for a fee in the summer or chance another loan/spell on the bench?


Ah, another striker made of glass. He'll fit right in.


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Its not a rumour but it would not suprise me if Hurst is in for Toto , he seems to like him -would not know if he will be available .

Maybe a loan from Hull or/and Luton as we seem to have a decent relationship with those clubs .

Hopefully no Bogle hype as he has gone ;as all the clubs after us will testify .

Umerah -no chance league 1

Lloyd- potentially if we push the boat out .

Taylor to go to a NL northern based team probably

Vernam to end up back here eventually ,so will be right one window .
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Its not a rumour but it would not suprise me if Hurst is in for Toto , he seems to like him -would not know if he will be available .

Maybe a loan from Hull or/and Luton as we seem to have a decent relationship with those clubs .

Hopefully no Bogle hype as he has gone ;as all the clubs after us will testify .

Umerah -no chance league 1

Lloyd- potentially if we push the boat out .

Taylor to go to a NL northern based team probably

Vernam to end up back here eventually ,so will be right one window .


I think it's important to remember the circumstances at the time when Toto left, think he'd come in for abit of criticism - which i think was unfair. Was mentioned by PH at the time it didn't surprise him he chose to move on because of that. Maybe something we should have in mind when players hit bad form... it doesn't necessarily make them bad players.

Regards Bogle, I'm certainly not wanting the whole melodrama we go through every window, but he has had a fairly decent return this season. The Newport podcast guys said they weren't sure about him for a while, but he is doing alright now (when we played them). Again not suggesting we open that can of worms but maybe relevant.


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I liked the look of Kemp at Hartlepool and Scott Banks of Bradford
https://www.bradfordcityafc.com/onthepitch/mens-first-team-player-profiles/midfielders/scott-banks/

Both on loan this season. If we can get in on a season loan I would be happy.

I truly believe we are currently playing with wing backs and a back 3 instead of natural wingers because Hurst isnt happy with the wingers we have at the club, plus sees Clifton as a more central option.
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I'm keeping quiet this time around..
I can't upset the fans with another relegation , they'll start calling me scunthorpe
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You mean Vernams


Saw him today. In Grimsby. Just saying, like!
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I think it's important to remember the circumstances at the time when Toto left, think he'd come in for abit of criticism - which i think was unfair. Was mentioned by PH at the time it didn't surprise him he chose to move on because of that. Maybe something we should have in mind when players hit bad form... it doesn't necessarily make them bad players.

Regards Bogle, I'm certainly not wanting the whole melodrama we go through every window, but he has had a fairly decent return this season. The Newport podcast guys said they weren't sure about him for a while, but he is doing alright now (when we played them). Again not suggesting we open that can of worms but maybe relevant.


In truth I had completely forgotten about that .

It was interesting in Hurst's interview today he remarked he was 'extremely positive' about a couple of potential signings , he does not normally get over excited about them and rarely discloses anything substantial .

To me it would suggest we have already all but secured  a couple , and no doubt it will be two left field names never mentioned on here .
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If Charlie Vernhams doesn't sign, Mikey_345 should be given a severe points deduction as he's called it numerous times now!
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If Charlie Vernhams doesn't sign, Mikey_345 should be given a severe points deduction as he's called it numerous times now!


Haha! I don’t think I’ve ever gone full ‘in bound/done’ on it mate. It is quite common knowledge though in both the last 2 windows the only thing stopping the loan move was Lincoln not getting players in. That’s not an issue now…

As Mappers says, sounds like PH is relatively confident 1/2 close early doors (of course you have to be fluent in Paul Hurst to understand 😂) … would think Vernam is quite likely to be one of those.

At a guess the other is one of Haughton, Shrimpton (heard we were inquiring last window) or Bennett.


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If we do sign Vernam and Haughton, it seems highly likely we'll be playing a 4231 of some variety next season. I believe Haughton is more of an attacking midfielder so would probably play in the hole behind the striker with Vernam on the left.

Hurst mentioned recently that Hunt is slightly a victim of being on a higher wave length to other players at times which makes it difficult for him. Players like these two should help get the best out of him next season.
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It would be interesting if we did sign those to as they are both quite slight in build , more technical players who need the ball to be kept on the floor to be effective .

A big contrast from Hurst's recent interviews when he all but suggested you need a team of bulldozers to be successful in league 2 .

Hoping it is these two as they would be conducive to good football.
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Clifton extended deal seal and signed by pre season👍
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Clifton extended deal seal and signed by pre season👍


Would show a lack of ambition if Harry committed to a longer deal. He’s 25. If he’s going to play at a higher level he needs to do it ASAP. Playing in a higher division would give him a realistic chance of breaking into the Wales squad too.
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Would show a lack of ambition if Harry committed to a longer deal. He’s 25. If he’s going to play at a higher level he needs to do it ASAP. Playing in a higher division would give him a realistic chance of breaking into the Wales squad too.


I'm with you on this one...if a top end league 1 come sniffing, potentially lower end championship(but doubt that) he'd be a fool to commit to us, he's more than earned the right to get a move to a higher division/bigger club/higher wage and as long as we get a good deal, I'd be waving him off with a tear in my eye and nothing but respect for the lad.
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First on the list must be a keeper to replace jelly hands


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Would like to see Luke Armstrong from Harrogate here. Good record for them, decent pedigree through Middlesbrough. No idea if he's under contract though, and looks like he lives in Durham area according to Wiki, which would put another hour on to his commute.

Though i think theres a car school with Green and Morris from a similar area, so get them to stay and chauffeur him. Deal done.

Nah ,let Green and Morris go, I'd sooner go fetch him myself than keep paying them wasted wages.

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Not sure why people keep mentioning haughton from Fylde .28 and not played any EFL football .He is either not good enough or not got the confidence in his own ability to try
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Not sure why people keep mentioning haughton from Fylde .28 and not played any EFL football .He is either not good enough or not got the confidence in his own ability to try


I'm told it's happening, so we will have ample time to find out/comment next season


ps the poster who said about 'jelly hands'
Max has played 70-80 games with hardly a break. He's going to be mentally shot.
Give him the pre season and the n the first couple of months next season before you cast judgement please

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Playing in a higher division would give him a realistic chance of breaking into the Wales squad too.


The way things are going ...to qualify to play for Wales he would have to be signed for Wrexham, been on a date with Ryan Reynolds mum and have rubbed man oil into Mchellenys beard to even get close.  


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The way things are going ...to qualify to play for Wales he would have to be signed for Wrexham, been on a date with Ryan Reynolds mum and have rubbed man oil into Mchellenys beard to even get close.  


He's signing for Wrexham then? 😄
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I'm with you on this one...if a top end league 1 come sniffing, potentially lower end championship(but doubt that) he'd be a fool to commit to us, he's more than earned the right to get a move to a higher division/bigger club/higher wage and as long as we get a good deal, I'd be waving him off with a tear in my eye and nothing but respect for the lad.


Why is it every time we have a good thing we have to be seen to sell them on, even my old man said the same said Town have always done that.  How about for a change we keep are best players unless the player wants to move on, but lets not be wanting to give our best players away.




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Why is it every time we have a good thing we have to be seen to sell them on, even my old man said the same said Town have always done that.  How about for a change we keep are best players unless the player wants to move on, but lets not be wanting to give our best players away.


Because good players command good fees and clubs realise this? It's not a bad thing, we all would love to see Harry to stay and beat John McDermott's appearance record but usually if you are a brilliant player a better team comes knocking with a better financial package which most players can't turn down. Look at Dean Lewington at franchise scum, been there for donkeys years but just a steady Eddie who will give you atleast a 6/10 every week and probably not be too inconsistent but not spectacular and they are happy to renew his contract every year but them sort of players aren't sought after.

It's a choice he will have all summer to think about it and no doubt we will have interest in him but ultimately its what Harry wants to do, I think he's recently just bought a house and is really settled but if a Sheff Wednesday came knocking for 250k and he doubles his wages to maybe £3000-4000 a week on a 2-3 year deal it's a staggering amount of money to a young man that may set him up financially for the next few years and possibly pay off his mortgage before reaching 30.

Whatever happens, I'm glad myself we've seen an academy product come through and push on like he has and wouldn't mind it being a business model we can adapt to as it always gives me that little bit more pride when it's one of your own that scores the winner or that is doing very well. A bit like Khouri bursting out towards the close end of this season, I know he's not Grimsby born and bred but all the same, ala Braithwaite aswell.

We can't cope financially with the Bradford's, Salford, Wrexham, Stockport. Mansfield, Northampton, Gillingham most recently but it's looking likely that we may only have Wrexham, Mansfield, Gillingham and maybe one of the others go up via the play-offs. With looking what is coming down from League One next year, Veggies always have had a good budget since Dale Vince took over them but I think most of their promotion winning squad got absolutely butchered trying to stay in League One and we've seen what's happened to the relegated teams from L1 last year: Gillingham, AFC Wimbledon, Crewe, Donny, all bottom half. We are looking at the following 3 of the 4 teams joining them: Accrington, Cambridge, Morecambe and Franchise Scum. Only one budget in there which I think will be significantly bigger than ours and I think we would triumph a season budget over the other 3 maybe be level with Cambridge at a push.

I think it showed yesterday watching Stevenage that you don't have to be incredible to get promoted out of this league, they looked like they had midfielders who could pass a football and do the physical side that goes with it, dig in when it matters. A mixture of strength, pace and height with a mix of experience in the middle of the park is key to getting out this league. I really just hope we recruit well this summer as it's our best chance since the play-off final against Cheltenham to really crack and push on. We can mop up all the local talent with a promotion and be fighting it out with Lincoln as the #1 club to be at in Lincolnshire and surrounding areas.

We are all ready for a break including the players now, I think Paul's mind is made up that he's got a certain amount of players fixed here next year but the one's who are out of contract - can he get better through the door in the summer?
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Why is it every time we have a good thing we have to be seen to sell them on, even my old man said the same said Town have always done that.  How about for a change we keep are best players unless the player wants to move on, but lets not be wanting to give our best players away.


Because good players command good fees and clubs realise this? It's not a bad thing, we all would love to see Harry to stay and beat John McDermott's appearance record but usually if you are a brilliant player a better team comes knocking with a better financial package which most players can't turn down. Look at Dean Lewington at franchise scum, been there for donkeys years but just a steady Eddie who will give you atleast a 6/10 every week and probably not be too inconsistent but not spectacular and they are happy to renew his contract every year but them sort of players aren't sought after.

It's a choice he will have all summer to think about it and no doubt we will have interest in him but ultimately its what Harry wants to do, I think he's recently just bought a house and is really settled but if a Sheff Wednesday came knocking for 250k and he doubles his wages to maybe £3000-4000 a week on a 2-3 year deal it's a staggering amount of money to a young man that may set him up financially for the next few years and possibly pay off his mortgage before reaching 30.

Whatever happens, I'm glad myself we've seen an academy product come through and push on like he has and wouldn't mind it being a business model we can adapt to as it always gives me that little bit more pride when it's one of your own that scores the winner or that is doing very well. A bit like Khouri bursting out towards the close end of this season, I know he's not Grimsby born and bred but all the same, ala Braithwaite aswell.

We can't cope financially with the Bradford's, Salford, Wrexham, Stockport. Mansfield, Northampton, Gillingham most recently but it's looking likely that we may only have Wrexham, Mansfield, Gillingham and maybe one of the others go up via the play-offs. With looking what is coming down from League One next year, Veggies always have had a good budget since Dale Vince took over them but I think most of their promotion winning squad got absolutely butchered trying to stay in League One and we've seen what's happened to the relegated teams from L1 last year: Gillingham, AFC Wimbledon, Crewe, Donny, all bottom half. We are looking at the following 3 of the 4 teams joining them: Accrington, Cambridge, Morecambe and Franchise Scum. Only one budget in there which I think will be significantly bigger than ours and I think we would triumph a season budget over the other 3 maybe be level with Cambridge at a push.

I think it showed yesterday watching Stevenage that you don't have to be incredible to get promoted out of this league, they looked like they had midfielders who could pass a football and do the physical side that goes with it, dig in when it matters. A mixture of strength, pace and height with a mix of experience in the middle of the park is key to getting out this league. I really just hope we recruit well this summer as it's our best chance since the play-off final against Cheltenham to really crack and push on. We can mop up all the local talent with a promotion and be fighting it out with Lincoln as the #1 club to be at in Lincolnshire and surrounding areas.

We are all ready for a break including the players now, I think Paul's mind is made up that he's got a certain amount of players fixed here next year but the one's who are out of contract - can he get better through the door in the summer?
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Because good players command good fees and clubs realise this? It's not a bad thing, we all would love to see Harry to stay and beat John McDermott's appearance record but usually if you are a brilliant player a better team comes knocking with a better financial package which most players can't turn down. Look at Dean Lewington at franchise scum, been there for donkeys years but just a steady Eddie who will give you atleast a 6/10 every week and probably not be too inconsistent but not spectacular and they are happy to renew his contract every year but them sort of players aren't sought after.

It's a choice he will have all summer to think about it and no doubt we will have interest in him but ultimately its what Harry wants to do, I think he's recently just bought a house and is really settled but if a Sheff Wednesday came knocking for 250k and he doubles his wages to maybe £3000-4000 a week on a 2-3 year deal it's a staggering amount of money to a young man that may set him up financially for the next few years and possibly pay off his mortgage before reaching 30.

Whatever happens, I'm glad myself we've seen an academy product come through and push on like he has and wouldn't mind it being a business model we can adapt to as it always gives me that little bit more pride when it's one of your own that scores the winner or that is doing very well. A bit like Khouri bursting out towards the close end of this season, I know he's not Grimsby born and bred but all the same, ala Braithwaite aswell.

We can't cope financially with the Bradford's, Salford, Wrexham, Stockport. Mansfield, Northampton, Gillingham most recently but it's looking likely that we may only have Wrexham, Mansfield, Gillingham and maybe one of the others go up via the play-offs. With looking what is coming down from League One next year, Veggies always have had a good budget since Dale Vince took over them but I think most of their promotion winning squad got absolutely butchered trying to stay in League One and we've seen what's happened to the relegated teams from L1 last year: Gillingham, AFC Wimbledon, Crewe, Donny, all bottom half. We are looking at the following 3 of the 4 teams joining them: Accrington, Cambridge, Morecambe and Franchise Scum. Only one budget in there which I think will be significantly bigger than ours and I think we would triumph a season budget over the other 3 maybe be level with Cambridge at a push.

I think it showed yesterday watching Stevenage that you don't have to be incredible to get promoted out of this league, they looked like they had midfielders who could pass a football and do the physical side that goes with it, dig in when it matters. A mixture of strength, pace and height with a mix of experience in the middle of the park is key to getting out this league. I really just hope we recruit well this summer as it's our best chance since the play-off final against Cheltenham to really crack and push on. We can mop up all the local talent with a promotion and be fighting it out with Lincoln as the #1 club to be at in Lincolnshire and surrounding areas.

We are all ready for a break including the players now, I think Paul's mind is made up that he's got a certain amount of players fixed here next year but the one's who are out of contract - can he get better through the door in the summer?


Yeah i get that, just frustrating i suppose, if i was a Brighton fan i'd probably go insane haha.




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If Clifton wasn't able to pay off his mortgage when earning 3 to 4 grand a week, I'd wonder just how big his house was!

I'd like him to stay, but if he gets the chance to move up a division or two and earn multiples of his current salary, he'd be mad not to take it. Even a middling Championship player should be able to financially set themselves up for life after just a few seasons playing and it's a short career, relatively speaking.
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Because good players command good fees and clubs realise this? It's not a bad thing, we all would love to see Harry to stay and beat John McDermott's appearance record but usually if you are a brilliant player a better team comes knocking with a better financial package which most players can't turn down. Look at Dean Lewington at franchise scum, been there for donkeys years but just a steady Eddie who will give you atleast a 6/10 every week and probably not be too inconsistent but not spectacular and they are happy to renew his contract every year but them sort of players aren't sought after.

It's a choice he will have all summer to think about it and no doubt we will have interest in him but ultimately its what Harry wants to do, I think he's recently just bought a house and is really settled but if a Sheff Wednesday came knocking for 250k and he doubles his wages to maybe £3000-4000 a week on a 2-3 year deal it's a staggering amount of money to a young man that may set him up financially for the next few years and possibly pay off his mortgage before reaching 30.

Whatever happens, I'm glad myself we've seen an academy product come through and push on like he has and wouldn't mind it being a business model we can adapt to as it always gives me that little bit more pride when it's one of your own that scores the winner or that is doing very well. A bit like Khouri bursting out towards the close end of this season, I know he's not Grimsby born and bred but all the same, ala Braithwaite aswell.

We can't cope financially with the Bradford's, Salford, Wrexham, Stockport. Mansfield, Northampton, Gillingham most recently but it's looking likely that we may only have Wrexham, Mansfield, Gillingham and maybe one of the others go up via the play-offs. With looking what is coming down from League One next year, Veggies always have had a good budget since Dale Vince took over them but I think most of their promotion winning squad got absolutely butchered trying to stay in League One and we've seen what's happened to the relegated teams from L1 last year: Gillingham, AFC Wimbledon, Crewe, Donny, all bottom half. We are looking at the following 3 of the 4 teams joining them: Accrington, Cambridge, Morecambe and Franchise Scum. Only one budget in there which I think will be significantly bigger than ours and I think we would triumph a season budget over the other 3 maybe be level with Cambridge at a push.

I think it showed yesterday watching Stevenage that you don't have to be incredible to get promoted out of this league, they looked like they had midfielders who could pass a football and do the physical side that goes with it, dig in when it matters. A mixture of strength, pace and height with a mix of experience in the middle of the park is key to getting out this league. I really just hope we recruit well this summer as it's our best chance since the play-off final against Cheltenham to really crack and push on. We can mop up all the local talent with a promotion and be fighting it out with Lincoln as the #1 club to be at in Lincolnshire and surrounding areas.

We are all ready for a break including the players now, I think Paul's mind is made up that he's got a certain amount of players fixed here next year but the one's who are out of contract - can he get better through the door in the summer?


Northampton don’t have a huge budget. It’s a myth invented by some Town fans disappointed that Ben Fox chose to go there last summer.
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Northampton don’t have a huge budget. It’s a myth invented by some Town fans disappointed that Ben Fox chose to go there last summer.


One of the town reporters (probably Tondeur, maybe Matt Dean) mentioned recently that Fox had told them personally he’d been offered “stupid money” by Northampton.
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One of the town reporters (probably Tondeur, maybe Matt Dean) mentioned recently that Fox had told them personally he’d been offered “stupid money” by Northampton.


That isn’t backed up by Northampton Town’s recent annual accounts. Their wage bill isn’t significantly higher than ours with them bouncing between L1 & L2.

Fox was one of our lower paid players last season. He was a basically washed up because of injuries and in last chance saloon with he joined us. He was offered a sizeable pay rise by GTFC (I was told over 50% increase) last summer, but we went to NTFC who paid just over double what he was on in the NL for us.

We have multiple players being paid more than Ben Fox is on at NTFC. If Northampton Town we’re awash with money I think they’d probably finally finish building that half built stand.
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Northampton don’t have a huge budget. It’s a myth invented by some Town fans disappointed that Ben Fox chose to go there last summer.


Bigger than ours. Fox went for more money and I doubt that Danny Hylton, Hoskins and Guthrie are on peanuts either.
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Bigger than ours. Fox went for more money and I doubt that Danny Hylton, Hoskins and Guthrie are on peanuts either.


Why would Sam Hoskins be on huge money? He only had his first double figure goal return last season & 20 goal season this term.

His next contract will be a decent pay rise. He has a year remaining on a deal he signed in February 2022, so it will be interesting to see if he signs an improved contract at NTFC in L1 (if they get promoted) over the summer or he forces his way out to cash in on the success he's had since signing his current contract.

Northampton Town had total staffing costs (playing and non-playing) of a smidge over £3.8m in 2021/22 season when they finished 4th in L2 and lost in the play-offs with the club losing £150,000 during the financial year.

We, as a National League club, had staffing costs of just over £3m and made a loss of over £900,000.

Northampton clearly aren't a bankrolled club offering incredible wages. They're run fairly prudently.

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Why would Sam Hoskins be on huge money? He only had his first double figure goal return last season & 20 goal season this term.

His next contract will be a decent pay rise. He has a year remaining on a deal he signed in February 2022, so it will be interesting to see if he signs an improved contract at NTFC in L1 (if they get promoted) over the summer or he forces his way out to cash in on the success he's had since signing his current contract.

Northampton Town had total staffing costs (playing and non-playing) of a smidge over £3.8m in 2021/22 season when they finished 4th in L2 and lost in the play-offs with the club losing £150,000 during the financial year.

We, as a National League club, had staffing costs of just over £3m and made a loss of over £900,000.

Northampton clearly aren't a bankrolled club offering incredible wages. They're run fairly prudently.



Where did I say they was bankrolled? I was clearly stating teams who will probably have a higher budget than ours next season. Hoskins has been used as an attacking winger for Northampton most seasons barring this/last. Just stating that I don't think we would of been able to attract the likes of Hylton to our club as don't think we would pay them wages.
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That isn’t backed up by Northampton Town’s recent annual accounts. Their wage bill isn’t significantly higher than ours with them bouncing between L1 & L2.

Fox was one of our lower paid players last season. He was a basically washed up because of injuries and in last chance saloon with he joined us. He was offered a sizeable pay rise by GTFC (I was told over 50% increase) last summer, but we went to NTFC who paid just over double what he was on in the NL for us.

We have multiple players being paid more than Ben Fox is on at NTFC. If Northampton Town we’re awash with money I think they’d probably finally finish building that half built stand.


I’m staggered that you can assess Ben Fox’s wages from a set of accounts for a financial period which ended before he even played for them.
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Where did I say they was bankrolled? I was clearly stating teams who will probably have a higher budget than ours next season. Hoskins has been used as an attacking winger for Northampton most seasons barring this/last. Just stating that I don't think we would of been able to attract the likes of Hylton to our club as don't think we would pay them wages.


You listed clubs we "couldn't cope" with the financially despite more than one of those clubs having comparable turnover and wage bills when you factor in we were a NL club and all those clubs were in at least L2 during the period the most recent accounts were from.

The reality is that the advantage Northampton (and others) have over use is a mixture of location (which we can't do anything about), recent success (19 years and counting since we've been in L1), turnover maximization (something we were and still are miles behind with) and working facilities (the state of our training ground & home stadium compared to other clubs).
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He's signing for Wrexham then? 😄


do you know, that's not out of the realms of possibility
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I’m staggered that you can assess Ben Fox’s wages from a set of accounts for a financial period which ended before he even played for them.


So you think Northampton suddenly started spaffing loads of cash last summer under the same owners who have run a steady ship over the past few years.

Clearly barmy as they would have signed a top EFL midfielder rather than an injury prone NL midfielder who only managed to start half of his team’s league matches the previous season.

I know it’s hard for some of you to accept. Fox moved on because he preferred to join Northampton than stay at Grimsby. It wasn’t because Northampton came in and offered silly money.

And if Northampton’s owners had cash to splash the first thing they would do is finish that new stand that’s been sat half built for years. When finished it will generate significant additional turnover for them from executive match day sales and non match day activities.
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Signing a midfielder on a free and building a stand aren’t really a true equivalent though.
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Shall we just rename this to the “Golly boring everyone to tears until August  Thread” & have done with it?

All the lad said was we couldn’t compete financially with Northampton, it’s matter of public record that the club offered Fox a “good contract” to stay and he chose to take up “significantly better terms” elsewhere. Anything else is just pure guesswork and speculation, which goes against the spirit of the thread.

They also did well out of the Chukwuemeka family in the last couple of years, making a few quid from him making his Premier League debut, then another £750k when he went to Chelsea for £20m last summer, as well as selling his brother Caleb to Villa in summer 2021. All this on top of being in either L1 or the L2 playoffs/promotion race for most of the last few years, it’s not completely inconceivable that they may have been able to outspend us.
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Fu(k it

Ben fox from Northampton!




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Ok Rumour Fans, the standings in table of trust at the end of last summer’s transfer window looked like this

Can't remember the hotel situation one but what I can tell you is that we are 100% in talks with haughton and have offered a very good signing on fee, he does have a few options elsewhere I have asked his agent to sell the club to him as his wife is a New Zealand model footballer, so I told him to tell her about our wonderful beach and the best fish and chips in the world hope it sells 😂

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January was an absolute skip fire. Mendonca1995’s source at an unnamed local hotel let him down badly and absolutely torched his reputation. Usually steady Hagrid went big on deadline day only for the Dallas deal to disintegrate, along with his reliability. Pontoonlew & Surrey97 kept their heads down in Jan, wisely, but at least one good source appears to have dried up for pontoonlew this season.

All you really need to know is that if It Bites says there’s one incoming, there aint, and whilst wozofgrimsby is a lovely bloke he’s never called a correct transfer target in the 15 years I’ve known him.

Let the bullshîtting commence!




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I'm told it's happening, so we will have ample time to find out/comment next season


ps the poster who said about 'jelly hands'
Max has played 70-80 games with hardly a break. He's going to be mentally shot.
Give him the pre season and the n the first couple of months next season before you cast judgement please

Haughton deal is not happening yet or even close but we are in talks with him as are other clubs





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Can't remember the hotel situation one but what I can tell you is that we are 100% in talks with haughton and have offered a very good signing on fee, he does have a few options elsewhere I have asked his agent to sell the club to him as his wife is a New Zealand model footballer, so I told him to tell her about our wonderful beach and the best fish and chips in the world hope it sells 😂

Haughton deal is not happening yet or even close but we are in talks with him as are other clubs



Thought it was you who told us a Mr Dallas had checked in at the Oaklands the night before deadline day? I could be wrong, everything went a bit mental back then.

Either way, be interesting to see what happens with Haughton, seen a lot of chat from Oldham fans about signing him. If it helps at all, he could share a car with Kiwi Max Crocombe, I think is also based in the Manchester area.

Knowing our luck they’ll all end up at Falkirk & Falkirk Women.
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Thought it was you who told us a Mr Dallas had checked in at the Oaklands the night before deadline day? I could be wrong, everything went a bit mental back then.

Either way, be interesting to see what happens with Haughton, seen a lot of chat from Oldham fans about signing him. If it helps at all, he could share a car with Kiwi Max Crocombe, I think is also based in the Manchester area.

Knowing our luck they’ll all end up at Falkirk & Falkirk Women.


Nah can't remember saying Dallas was at the Oaklands must of been someone else mate 😂 I've been told haughton will play league football next season 100% for sure I'm hoping it is us will keep the fishy updated and hopefully return to the top of the league 🙌


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do you know, that's not out of the realms of possibility


Whatever the price they offer we want double for Harry then.  


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Dan Kemp would be a pleasing addition in my book if MK Dons would let him go or loan him out.

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Thought I’d posted this before but I work with a guy from the East Midlands, Leicester city supporter, whose brother is in the burton academy. Was talking to him and reckons there’s a number of league 2 and a couple of league 1 clubs been looking at a lad they got from Leeds called Bobby Kamwa. Reckon he’s quite pacy and just hasn’t got the game time this season, but is rumoured to be getting released at the end of the campaign.


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Thought I’d posted this before but I work with a guy from the East Midlands, Leicester city supporter, whose brother is in the burton academy. Was talking to him and reckons there’s a number of league 2 and a couple of league 1 clubs been looking at a lad they got from Leeds called Bobby Kamwa. Reckon he’s quite pacy and just hasn’t got the game time this season, but is rumoured to be getting released at the end of the campaign.


For those new to this, you can now cross Bobby Kamwa off your list of potential signings.
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For those new to this, you can now cross Bobby Kamwa off your list of potential signings.


Quite likely 😂


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Total guesses but, here goes;

Striker wise : tyreece simpson from Huddersfield. Seem to think we were linked with him last summer



That's an educated guess in my house too. 🫡


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Shall we just rename this to the “Golly boring everyone to tears until August  Thread” & have done with it?

All the lad said was we couldn’t compete financially with Northampton, it’s matter of public record that the club offered Fox a “good contract” to stay and he chose to take up “significantly better terms” elsewhere. Anything else is just pure guesswork and speculation, which goes against the spirit of the thread.


Awwww has somebody posted something on your little thread that you don’t like?

I’ll tell you what I find boring. People bringing up the same rubbish from last summer. i.e. Ben Fox being given silly money by Northampton. £7,500 a week wasn’t it? Don’t bother searching, it was. That equates to just over 10% of their entire wage bill (football and non-football staff). Sorry but I’m gonna call out rubbish when it’s posted. And I’ve called it out again when it’s repeated. Whether it be the original poster or somebody just repeating what they saw on here.

“In the spirit of thread” here’s a name for you…
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Awwww has somebody posted something on your little thread that you don’t like?

I’ll tell you what I find boring. People bringing up the same rubbish from last summer. i.e. Ben Fox being given silly money by Northampton. £7,500 a week wasn’t it? Don’t bother searching, it was. That equates to just over 10% of their entire wage bill (football and non-football staff). Sorry but I’m gonna call out rubbish when it’s posted. And I’ve called it out again when it’s repeated. Whether it be the original poster or somebody just repeating what they saw on here.

“In the spirit of thread” here’s a name for you…
Callum Cooke


The Ben Fox figure was £3500, over £1000 more than we offered, plus he was going back towards ‘home’.
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Hurst has gone on record to say that Dallas does not want to come here so I doubt we will be in for him but the 23 year old has been offered a new deal by Solihull despite spending the second half of the season on loan at Chesterfield.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out as they will now be due compensation as he is under 24. I can't imagine that being a great deal as he has only been there for 2 seasons but he turns 24 on 22nd July according to Wikipedia, at which point I assume nobody needs to pay compensation for him.
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Hurst has gone on record to say that Dallas does not want to come here so I doubt we will be in for him but the 23 year old has been offered a new deal by Solihull despite spending the second half of the season on loan at Chesterfield.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out as they will now be due compensation as he is under 24. I can't imagine that being a great deal as he has only been there for 2 seasons but he turns 24 on 22nd July according to Wikipedia, at which point I assume nobody needs to pay compensation for him.


Genuinely astonished he’s only 23.
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Millenic Alli from Halifax is someone Town are keen on, but there’s a lot of clubs who’ve been having a look at him, so there’ll be a bit of competition.
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I expect one of our loans to become a permanent Town player.
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I expect one of our loans to become a permanent Town player.


Smith



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Millenic Alli from Halifax is someone Town are keen on, but there’s a lot of clubs who’ve been having a look at him, so there’ll be a bit of competition.


Mentioned this guy a few weeks ago having watched him destroy the mighty Wrexham   Looks a very clever player, takes people on and scores goals and the sort of player who excites the fans.

But can he defend ? Does he track back ? blah, blah, blah. In a nutshell, too flamboyant for Hurst.




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I know there is another thread about him but I can tell you we are currently not in for billy Chadwick if this changes I will keep you updated UTM


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Quoted from Sir Matt Tease


Mentioned this guy a few weeks ago having watched him destroy the mighty Wrexham   Looks a very clever player, takes people on and scores goals and the sort of player who excites the fans.

But can he defend ? Does he track back ? blah, blah, blah. In a nutshell, too flamboyant



Any excuse Sir Matt!!
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Correct answer.


Smith seemed to give a very definite polite 'thanks but no thanks' when asked about coming back next season in a recent interview.

Something came up on my feed recently which was a Hurst interview and it said he discussed the likelihood of mcatee returning next season, I didn't watch it at the time and now can't find it! Anybody see it and can share what he said by any chance?
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Something came up on my feed recently which was a Hurst interview and it said he discussed the likelihood of mcatee returning next season, I didn't watch it at the time and now can't find it! Anybody see it and can share what he said by any chance?

He said it was extremely unlikely.

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He said it was extremely unlikely.



When asked about JM 's injury Hurst said something like, 'He has come to the end of his time here.' Not 'his loan'.
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I expect one of our loans to become a permanent Town player.


Which town though ?


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I'll put my 50 pence worth in, i can see Kings Lynn striker Omotayo who has 20 gls this season signing .


Ive seen KL play a few times this season and Omotayo would be a great addition to team.
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Think Hurst said it depends what league Luton are in next season. If it's the championship they'll be having a good look at him in preseason training and friendlies, then decide what to do with him
If they're in the premier league he'll do preseason and then probably be loaned out
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McAtee was fantastic for us last season.  Let's not forget that, he was genuinely what we all needed at that moment in time.  A horror show of a season with players who didn't give a excrement, relegation and an owner who was trying to get us into bed with a criminal.  Worst of all we couldn't even voice our frustrations at what was going on before our eyes.  We had to settle for screaming at iFollow.

He came in with swagger, arrogance and a style that depicted what we wanted to be moving forward and everything we had lacked as we fell out the league without a whimper.  He represented the 'We're all from Grimsby, who the intercourse are you?'  He cared, he busted a gut and god he was spectacular to watch at times.  

But there isn't a cat in hells chance that he takes his 4 goals and 4 assists from this season and goes anywhere near any Championship side.  Be it Luton, who will either be in the Premier League or desperately looking to make those improvements to get them over the line, or a club who will be happy with a fourth from bottom finish in that league. Omar Bogle tore this league a new anus in the first half 16/17.  Yet he barely got a look in at a Wigan side that got relegated from the Championship.  

Be it goals or assists, there's very few at this level who have grabbed a bucket full and then gone straight into the Championship.  
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  He represented the 'We're all from Grimsby, who the intercourse are you?'  


  


Whilst I love this chant.  Those aren’t the original words.  
As I’m sure our friends from Aalst would point out  !!


The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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The odd glimpse aside, McAtee was very disappointing this season and really didn't kick on from last year, the odd flash of brilliance aside.

This is understandable to some degree as the early injury which required surgery has meant he has been playing catch up ever since and, of course, he wasn't able to play with an effective fulcrum up top as Taylor was for much of last season.

That said, I think he'll be disappointed with his return of goals and assists this season as he's missed chances he should have buried and, more disappointingly, has fluffed lots of relatively easy passes which should have created good chances.

As I've said in the past, I think he's a player that needs to receive the ball on the front foot, facing the opposition goal to show his best. He's not great at retaining possession when under pressure and that is something which he needs to work on. We've not managed to control enough games this season due to the weaknesses in midfield and up front but I'd be happy to see him back if we can resolve those problems. I certainly don't think he's looked like a player you can build your team around as he did at times last season and I can't imagine he'll get much of a look in at Luton next season, regardless of whether they go up or not.

I'd expect him out of loan somewhere in League Two, perhaps League One at a push, but the question is, where? Stevenage would be the obvious L1 option if they were interested in him, but I'm not entirely sure he'd fit into the Evans pattern. It had better not be Boreham Bloody Wood.
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Think Luton signed him on the back of the three playoff games in which he was outstanding but sadly those games were the peak of his time here and he has fallen short this year, well short

My prediction for Mcatee next season would be a season long loan to an unfancied team like Fleetwood Town

Good luck to the lad


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I was thinking Stevenage to be honest, although that suits Luton more than him (location wise).

Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up going out loan somewhere in his native North-West.  
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I was thinking Stevenage to be honest, although that suits Luton more than him (location wise).

Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up going out loan somewhere in his native North-West.  


Wigan are going to be in lge1, and possibly Stockport too



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Salford will have a look at him I reckon


‘I just f*cking threw myself at it’

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Any club in League 1 save Lincoln, wouldn’t like to see him at any club in League 2, but ffs please not Wrexham in particular
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Any club in League 1 save Lincoln, wouldn’t like to see him at any club in League 2, but ffs please not Wrexham in particular


*shivers*



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McAtee was fantastic for us last season.  Let's not forget that, he was genuinely what we all needed at that moment in time.  A horror show of a season with players who didn't give a excrement, relegation and an owner who was trying to get us into bed with a criminal.  Worst of all we couldn't even voice our frustrations at what was going on before our eyes.  We had to settle for screaming at iFollow.

He came in with swagger, arrogance and a style that depicted what we wanted to be moving forward and everything we had lacked as we fell out the league without a whimper.  He represented the 'We're all from Grimsby, who the intercourse are you?'  He cared, he busted a gut and god he was spectacular to watch at times.  

But there isn't a cat in hells chance that he takes his 4 goals and 4 assists from this season and goes anywhere near any Championship side.  Be it Luton, who will either be in the Premier League or desperately looking to make those improvements to get them over the line, or a club who will be happy with a fourth from bottom finish in that league. Omar Bogle tore this league a new anus in the first half 16/17.  Yet he barely got a look in at a Wigan side that got relegated from the Championship.  

Be it goals or assists, there's very few at this level who have grabbed a bucket full and then gone straight into the Championship.  


There was a rumour a few weeks ago that McAtee might be coming back either permanently or on loan next season. McAtee clearly has talent and his injury can't have helped him this season, but it is also well documented that he loves a night out (his post Solihull interview was basically a confession of this).

McAtee is at an interesting juncture now because Hurst has signed him three times and he has only really performed for Hurst, so it will be interesting to see where he goes next season as he's a million miles away from a Luton lineup.
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Really can't see Hurst wanting Mcatee back, get the feeling all wasn't well between them this year and the odd rumour of off field antics would cement that feeling.
Always greatful for last season but i think he himself thinks he has outgrown us now and that has shown at times this season,

a player who believes he is better than the opposition is a great thing to have,     a player who believes he is better than his team mates not so great.


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Really can't see Hurst wanting Mcatee back, get the feeling all wasn't well between them this year and the odd rumour of off field antics would cement that feeling.
Always greatful for last season but i think he himself thinks he has outgrown us now and that has shown at times this season,

a player who believes he is better than the opposition is a great thing to have,     a player who believes he is better than his team mates not so great.


But some on here think he's a GTFC Legend......... 😂😂.  Not even close
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Quoted from moosey_club
Really can't see Hurst wanting Mcatee back, get the feeling all wasn't well between them this year and the odd rumour of off field antics would cement that feeling.
Always greatful for last season but i think he himself thinks he has outgrown us now and that has shown at times this season,

a player who believes he is better than the opposition is a great thing to have,     a player who believes he is better than his team mates not so great.


Yep bang on the money for me! Time to find a new MacAtee.
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You just know he will end up at Wrexham 🤦🏻‍♂️


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Quoted from moosey_club
Really can't see Hurst wanting Mcatee back, get the feeling all wasn't well between them this year and the odd rumour of off field antics would cement that feeling.
Always greatful for last season but i think he himself thinks he has outgrown us now and that has shown at times this season,

a player who believes he is better than the opposition is a great thing to have,     a player who believes he is better than his team mates not so great.


Great post Moosey , that sums up my feelings .

Thanks for the memories
Best for both to start a new chapter now .
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But some on here think he's a GTFC Legend......... 😂😂.  Not even close


I don't think anyone has ever said legend. But he was exactly what we needed last season and will forever be remembered as the talisman who's brilliance spearheaded our unlikely return to the FL at the first attempt.

He's at an important junction of his career now, he can either knuckle down and really use his talent or he can squander it. I hope he puts it to good use. Good luck to him.
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This IS NOT a rumour but Jack Bycroft (Taunton goalkeeper) has been absolutely superb this season, he Came through Southampton academy. I'm not saying for a second we're in for him, he's been down south his whole life. But he's the type of goalkeeper we could and should be looking at. Up and coming and looking to push Max for a place over the next few months
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Not sure if this has been mentioned but I have it on good authority that Daniel Agyei at Crewe has signed a deal with another club. It won't be Town but just reporting this as he's had a few mentions in here.
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Suspect Agyei will have had plenty of options - maybe off to League One?
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The new McAtee is a 22year old called Charlie Riley  . He plays for Akbion Rovers . Check his stats . Very impressive  
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The new McAtee is a 22year old called Charlie Riley  . He plays for Akbion Rovers . Check his stats . Very impressive  


Are you related to him? They're bottom of the Scottish L2. For context, even the teams at the top of that league would struggle against the likes of Boston.
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The new McAtee is a 22year old called Charlie Riley  . He plays for Akbion Rovers . Check his stats . Very impressive  


From a quick check, they’re slightly less impressive than those of Montel Gibson and Ira Jackson jr the season before Holloway signed them, when they were playing at a similar level.

I don’t know enough about the lad to say definitively that he’s not the real deal, but those stats need presenting in the context that Scottish League Two is comparable with
step 7 / 8 of the English game. It’s an absolute world away from League Two.


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Did we miss McAfee when he was not in the team this season. ?

Not really because we did just as good or bad when he was in the team.

I don't think we will get any add on fee from Luton as I can not see him getting any match time.

If they sell him it will be at a loss so nothing there either.


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Will Town be in for Tyler Smith from Hull?
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Will Town be in for Tyler Smith from Hull?


Hull not taking the option on him?
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Hull not taking the option on him?


Probably not. Struggled to get a game at Oxford on loan.
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Ryan Colclough is one to watch if chesterfield don’t get promotion.
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Ryan Colclough is one to watch if chesterfield don’t get promotion.


think we can assume that's a signed n sealed deal!
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think we can assume that's a signed n sealed deal!


Sacked by scunny a couple of years ago, not sure players, especially called ryan, with history like this are top of our list tbf....

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.c.....sault-charge-4612167








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Callum Elder, 28 year old left back, released by Hull City after 4 years at the Club.
Spent most of his career reasonably local.

I wonder if Town will take a punt on him.
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Sacked by scunny a couple of years ago, not sure players, especially called ryan, with history like this are top of our list tbf....

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.c.....sault-charge-4612167




Nasty piece of work, you say? I wonder what he’s up to now…

*Google’s him*





Ah of course, Chesterfield! The only club where you practically have to be on the sex offenders register to even get a contract.


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Nasty piece of work, you say? I wonder what he’s up to now…

*Google’s him*





Ah of course, Chesterfield! The only club where you practically have to be on the sex offenders register to even get a contract.


Next stops will undoubtedly include Guiseley and Mickleover who have employed the likes of Lee Hughes, Mitch Rose and Reece Thompson who have all signed for one of those clubs after being convicted of disgusting crimes.
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[if he’s any good] Worth remembering he wasn’t even prosecuted.

[if he’s no good] No smoke without fire, don’t need any bobby beaters in this squad
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Legal definition of assault:
At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.

           An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm.

So Ryan Colclough may not even have touched the officer concerned. More likely, since he was young and drunk at the time, he said
something along the lines of "I'm going to chin you if you don't get out of my face...".

Since all charges were dropped, I suspect it wasn't much more serious than that. Do we want a team of saints?

My attitude is simple: if PH wants him that's good enough for me. His Wiki profile suggests he's too good for the NL.

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What is the usual, or approximate date that the Retained list is revealed?
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What is the usual, or approximate date that the Retained list is revealed?

Usually a week or two after our last game. Last year it was 11th June, 6 days after the final.
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Think we’ll get the retained list a couple of days after the last game of the season. A lot of conversations have already taken place, it’s a lot more straightforward than last season.
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Callum Elder, 28 year old left back, released by Hull City after 4 years at the Club.
Spent most of his career reasonably local.

I wonder if Town will take a punt on him.


It was Elders choice to leave, he'll have something higher up the pyramid than gtfc sorted.
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https://www.grimsbytelegraph.c.....utm_campaign=organic

Already in conversation with a couple of players which is a positive I guess


Rose is on fire

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Hearing Harry to Wednesday within a week or so, be a shame if so, but nobody's irreplaceable, hopefully a fair fee
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Cole Stockton not offered a new contract at Morecambe, I guess he's already going to another League One club >> https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2023/may/club-news--retained-list-announced/
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Performance / Top Scorers / Assists / Discipline - Grimsby Town Statistics >> https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team/squad/_/id/386/eng.grimsby
Form Over Last 10 Games - Grimsby Town >> https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/grimsby-town/form-guide/ten
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Hearing Harry to Wednesday within a week or so, be a shame if so, but nobody's irreplaceable, hopefully a fair fee


OOh - that's a bold prediction!
Can't see it myself, given that Wendy are in the play offs, and even less if they went up. Was rumoured in January ,so would take it more seriously if they stayed down (which i sincerely hope they do   )
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If he does go, (a) I hope it’s for a decent fee and (b) I think it solves a bit of a problem for us. Clifton’s been our best midfielder this season but doesn’t really fit into any conventional system - you have to play him, but it always feels like he’s being squeezed in somewhere just to accommodate his qualities. If someone could get hold of him and find a way for him to make one position his own, then he’ll go on to have a great(er) career. For us, maybe it gives Hurst, and especially the likes of Hunt & Green, to really properly shape the way we play.
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I reckon we could well be picking the bones at Hartlepools United as they adjust to time in the conference once more. The likes of Callum cook, Jamie sterry, Josh umerah and jake hastie could more than likely be moving on. It’s pure conjecture on my behalf but I reckon the same could be said for Toby mullarkey, ebanks landell , Liam Kelly and possibly James ball from Rochdale too*.



* as mentioned before these can all be ruled out now I’ve suggested them! It is just total guess work (and boredom waiting for my 4 year old to eat her Rice Krispies and then go back to sleep!).


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Ben Killip is at Hartlepool, was previously at the club under Hurst and Jeff Stelling is always very complimentary about him as a goalkeeper. Wouldn’t mind him turning up here
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Killip signed after PH left, think Slades signed him.


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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
I reckon we could well be picking the bones at Hartlepools United as they adjust to time in the conference once more. The likes of Callum cook, Jamie sterry, Josh umerah and jake hastie could more than likely be moving on. It’s pure conjecture on my behalf but I reckon the same could be said for Toby mullarkey, ebanks landell , Liam Kelly and possibly James ball from Rochdale too*.



* as mentioned before these can all be ruled out now I’ve suggested them! It is just total guess work (and boredom waiting for my 4 year old to eat her Rice Krispies and then go back to sleep!).



Umerah would be a good signing - expect he'll have offers. 12 goals in a poor side. He's strong and could potentially fill the target man role. Did well at Wealdstone in a similarly poor side in 21/22.

Agyei has been good too and know we've looked at him before when he'd been on loan to Blackpool. Doubt we'd be able to tempt him here wage wise though.

Bogle obvious relationship with Hurst but again think he'll have offers and may well fancy a move to Lg1 - would be surprised if we don't have the conversation though.

Nadesan from Crawley has always been a decent player.
Some other decent players there that have had good form in past couple years are Telford and Appiah who obviously has some class.

A bit of a rouge one , but one I wouldn't be unhappy to see come in would be Frank Nouble. He's been at Torquay but think he is above that level. Strong, fast and whilst he doesn't bang goals in , he does cause problems for defenders. He's played a lot of games at and above this level with championship and prem apps to his name. Think in the right system he could score and regardless can play a vital role as a hold up man.

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If he does go, (a) I hope it’s for a decent fee and (b) I think it solves a bit of a problem for us. Clifton’s been our best midfielder this season but doesn’t really fit into any conventional system - you have to play him, but it always feels like he’s being squeezed in somewhere just to accommodate his qualities. If someone could get hold of him and find a way for him to make one position his own, then he’ll go on to have a great(er) career. For us, maybe it gives Hurst, and especially the likes of Hunt & Green, to really properly shape the way we play.


Kinda see what you're saying there but I wonder if him not fitting into a conventional system is more about that we've just not got a great amount of balance in the squad.

For me he should be in the middle, it's where his engine, strength and running is most effective.  But be it in a 3 or a 2, you still need width in there to stretch play. We've got absolutely none.  Khan's the only winger in the squad and he doesn't seem physically capable of going on the outside.  Whilst not a winger, Clifton will at least hug the touchline.  

I was quite eager yesterday to see how it went with him and Khouri further ahead of Hunt, which for my money is our probably the midfield where all 3 compliment each other the best and also the 3 who are capable of moving it about the quickest.  Sadly Clifton got injured early doors which scuppered that.

As you say, our best midfielder, but I think he's a victim of a lack of depth and quality in other positions.

I've said for a while though, Clifton will go this summer. He's played too well to not get interest from seriously tempting clubs.  Be it in League One or the Championship, Sheff Weds are a huge step-up for the lad.  It's just about commutable (I'm told he's keen to not leave the area), will no doubt be a big jump in wages and rather than going to someone like FGR it's a proper elevation for the lad.  

I also think that him going gives Khouri the chance to take that role in midfield.  The one who has the engine, gets stuck in and sets the tempo.  I'll be even bolder and say that if Clifton goes, Khouri means we don't miss him as much.  Ideally both stay and become the new Cockerill & Cunnington.
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I'm not sure that Khouri has anything near the engine of Clifton, to be honest with you. After a good first half yesterday, he faded badly in the second half and needed to be subbed. Not sure if he was struggling due to the knocks he kept getting in the first half when he really was in the wars, but there really aren't many players around who can do the running that Clifton puts in every season.

Khouri certainly does look a lot stronger than from his past performances when he was decidedly lightweight, but I am slightly concerned that we would have a rather diminutive midfield with him alongside Hunt as he's not the tallest. I suppose it all depends on what sort of a formation we're going to be playing. Truth be told, I don't have the first clue as to what Hurst plans next season given how much we've chopped and changed so much this year.
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Oh there's not a cat in hells chance we find another player with the engine of Clifton's.  If he is to go, we might need to accept that we'll not someone with his freak-like levels of stamina.  In some ways that lends itself to Ska's point about accommodating that role into the team.  By having a super fit lad in there who can do it all, does it mean we rely on it rather than go for something different?

He's a one-off.  It's now common for the distance covered by players to be discussed but it hasn't really dropped down to our level yet, not that I've seen anyway.  But I'd be really interested to see the numbers that Clifton covers but also the pace at which he does them.  

Over the course of 90 minutes, 10km sounds a lot but when the majority of that will be done at a quite steady pace it's not ground breaking.  I bet Clifton covers more than that and a high bulk at decent pace.
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Quoted from LocalLadGTFC
Ben Killip is at Hartlepool, was previously at the club under Hurst and Jeff Stelling is always very complimentary about him as a goalkeeper. Wouldn’t mind him turning up here


Only as No2.  He wasn't in the team at Hartlepool recently so hard to imagine him coming to us as first teamer but decent shout as a back up.  I tend to keep an eye out for how he is doing as he is from this part of London.  His younger brother usually finishes several minutes ahead of me in our local parkrun.
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Killip wasn't here with Hurst before, Slade brought him in.


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Believe Killip was injured for a few months. He was brilliant against Stockport at the weekend.
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So, can we start buying and selling players now, or do we have to wait until July?
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Quoted from 123614
So, can we start buying and selling players now, or do we have to wait until July?


We can sign them now, they just can't play for us until July. Brighton recently signed João Pedro from Watford for £30m and part of the deal was that he doesn't play again for Watford this season.
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So, can we start buying and selling players now, or do we have to wait until July?


Deals can be agreed whenever, but the player can't be registered to the Club until the window opens
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We can sign them now, they just can't play for us until July. Brighton recently signed João Pedro from Watford for £30m and part of the deal was that he doesn't play again for Watford this season.


Isn't that a given?  Or is it likely that we will have pre-season games before July, but as they would be friendlies, I can't see why they couldn't play for us in those games.

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Quoted from Strandty


Deals can be agreed whenever, but the player can't be registered to the Club until the window opens


Thanks for that.

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For what it’s worth I’d be surprised if Clifton leaves this Summer.
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For what it’s worth I’d be surprised if Clifton leaves this Summer.


I so hope you’re right. However, I heard two different people yesterday at Blundell Park saying that a deal has already been done with Sheffield Wednesday, Hope not!
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3 big calls from the well connected person in Surrey over the last 36 hours.

Looks like Clifton has signed a new deal, whilst Crocombe and Morris are heading to Scotland and Hartlepool.
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Would like to see Josh Gordon from Barrow, out of contract and fits PH’s hard working forward profile, 15 league 2 goals this season.


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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I so hope you’re right. However, I heard two different people yesterday at Blundell Park saying that a deal has already been done with Sheffield Wednesday, Hope not!


I too hope Clifton stays beyond the summer, but if he doesn’t I’d take it as a sign of progress.

If I’m not mistaken, Harry would be the first genuine product of our youth system to have become an established player in our first-team before being sold for a significant fee since John Oster in 1997 (though I’m not suggesting the fee would be as significant as that).

There are very few apex predators in football, and we most certainly aren’t one of them. Developing players and selling them on is something that successful clubs do, and something we very rarely have in recent years. Yes, there have been the likes of Bennett and more recently Pollock, but they were scraps picked up from the academies of other clubs, rather than local lads.


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If crocombe is off to Scotland why have we offered him a new contract?
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Would like to see Josh Gordon from Barrow, out of contract and fits PH’s hard working forward profile, 15 league 2 goals this season.


Is that that lad they inexplicably kept on the bench against us until late on, when they needed a win to force a playoff push despite him being their top scorer?

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Just a name for consideration. Jamie Proctor ex Rotherham and Scunny amongst others, just released by Port Vale. 6 foot 2 in the Ryan Taylor mould scored 14 in 51 for PV.
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Just a name for consideration. Jamie Proctor ex Rotherham and Scunny amongst others, just released by Port Vale. 6 foot 2 in the Ryan Taylor mould scored 14 in 51 for PV.


A guy that scores a goal once every 7 or so games... no thank you.

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Quoted from MuddyWaters
Just a name for consideration. Jamie Proctor ex Rotherham and Scunny amongst others, just released by Port Vale. 6 foot 2 in the Ryan Taylor mould scored 14 in 51 for PV.


Reading his Wiki entry: a whole-hearted trier (good) who's picked up a number of injuries recently (not good).

Would hope we could do better.
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Just a name for consideration. Jamie Proctor ex Rotherham and Scunny amongst others, just released by Port Vale. 6 foot 2 in the Ryan Taylor mould scored 14 in 51 for PV.


we were linked with him in January, given that PH had him at Scunny, but PH knocked it firmly on the head, saying he wasn't looking for that type of player
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Oh there's not a cat in hells chance we find another player with the engine of Clifton's.  If he is to go, we might need to accept that we'll not someone with his freak-like levels of stamina.  In some ways that lends itself to Ska's point about accommodating that role into the team.  By having a super fit lad in there who can do it all, does it mean we rely on it rather than go for something different?

He's a one-off.  It's now common for the distance covered by players to be discussed but it hasn't really dropped down to our level yet, not that I've seen anyway.  But I'd be really interested to see the numbers that Clifton covers but also the pace at which he does them.  

Over the course of 90 minutes, 10km sounds a lot but when the majority of that will be done at a quite steady pace it's not ground breaking.  I bet Clifton covers more than that and a high bulk at decent pace.


I'm sure Slade flashed some stats a few years back that had Clifton way out in front of the rest of the squad for high intensity running. That was before he made his breakthrough and you'd imagine he's only gotten stronger from them to now.

From what I've seen of Khouri I would say I'm impressed, particularly with his tackling and closing down. He seems to have that perfect balance of controlled aggression and I think he will complete well against whatever midfielder he come up against.
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I was certainly very wrong about Khouri ....  After a few games he looks the business. Hopefully he'll continue to get games and PH keeps a more settled team and formation
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Mullarkey from Rochdale - he was very good when we played them and can play right back or central
Question is, does he have the ambition? Assume he chose Rochdale instead of us in January for geographical reasons
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Unless he had a relegation clause in his deal I think it’d take a decent fee for him to move. Think he signed for 18 months with the club having the option of another year.
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A guy that scores a goal once every 7 or so games... no thank you.



I can't tell you how much i hate people using goal stats alone to decide if a striker is any good.
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I can't tell you how much i hate people using goal stats alone to decide if a striker is any good.


Plus his PV stats are more like 1 in 3.5.
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i'm 80% on Ryan Bennett resigning this season,

He wanted to sign last season, and didn't want an 'over the top' salary, just to match a high earner.
As we was sorted at CB, PH rightly said we don't need to do that.

He's got a big house in Humberstone (Common Knowledge) and is doing it up with the intention of staying in the area for the foreseeable.

A good solid replacement for Smith for a season or two
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Plus his PV stats are more like 1 in 3.5.


His stats are here https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=52386

For the record, hes got 2 goals in his last 21 appearances. He has more yellow cards than goals.

To say I would be thouroughly underwhelmed with a signing like this would be an understatment, I appreciate stats don't show everything, though would hope we are looking for a younger player with his career before them than an aging playing on the decline.

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His stats are here https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=52386

For the record, hes got 2 goals in his last 21 appearances. He has more yellow cards than goals.

To say I would be thouroughly underwhelmed with a signing like this would be an understatment, I appreciate stats don't show everything, though would hope we are looking for a younger player with his career before them than an aging playing on the decline.



Doesn't change the fact that he scored at twice the rate for PV than you quoted and helped them to promotion from League 2.

He has a career total of 1 in 5, and has also played at a pretty decent level in his career, isn't that old and is known to PH.

I wouldn't be surprised if we were looking and wouldn't be overly disappointed if we signed him.



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This is a sign chaps, we need a midfielder who can pass better:

Captain Sergio Busquets has confirmed he will leave Barcelona at the end of the season after 18 years at the club.

The former Spain midfielder, 34, has played 718 matches for Barcelona - the third-most in the club's history.

His list of honours won with the club includes eight La Liga titles, seven Copa del Reys, 7 Spanish Super Cups and three Champions Leagues.

"Although it has not been an easy decision, I think the time has come to join El General," Busquets said.
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I can't tell you how much i hate people using goal stats alone to decide if a striker is any good.


I get it but it’s not exactly a daft barometer is it? We’re at the point where we absolutely need somebody to come in & score goals at this level, the method of ‘sign a lad with a poor record & hope it clicks here’ more often than not hasn’t worked for us in recent years.

We can also say goals don’t show what they contribute, but the fact is we need somebody to stick it in the net now if we’re to have a chance of going up.
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This is a sign chaps, we need a midfielder who can pass better:

Captain Sergio Busquets has confirmed he will leave Barcelona at the end of the season after 18 years at the club.

The former Spain midfielder, 34, has played 718 matches for Barcelona - the third-most in the club's history.

His list of honours won with the club includes eight La Liga titles, seven Copa del Reys, 7 Spanish Super Cups and three Champions Leagues.

"Although it has not been an easy decision, I think the time has come to join El General," Busquets said.


After almost landing Fabregas last season, hopefully we can land Busquets.
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Here's a wildcard to throw into the mix.

Nathan Thomas.

Very talented player who has struggled badly with injuries last few seasons, but we all know Hurst is more than happy to take a gamble on managing to get someone fit (Scannell, Taylor, Joel Grant...) or even someone who he thinks he can get more out of (JMD for example).

Out of contract at York having spent the season with them having failed to keep fit for the majority of it.  

Crucially has worked with Hurst before when signed on loan from Sheff Utd for Shrewsbury, ironically on the same day the Shrews signed Sam Jones from us.  At the time Hurst said this of him:

Quoted Text
He's very talented and I think he's got that little bit extra. He can score special goals maybe when you need that little bit of magic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42892131
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Doesn't change the fact that he scored at twice the rate for PV than you quoted and helped them to promotion from League 2.

He has a career total of 1 in 5, and has also played at a pretty decent level in his career, isn't that old and is known to PH.

I wouldn't be surprised if we were looking and wouldn't be overly disappointed if we signed him.

Add the fact that in recent seasons we have made a number of signings from Port Vale and this might well be one to keep an eye on.



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I get it but it’s not exactly a daft barometer is it? We’re at the point where we absolutely need somebody to come in & score goals at this level, the method of ‘sign a lad with a poor record & hope it clicks here’ more often than not hasn’t worked for us in recent years.

We can also say goals don’t show what they contribute, but the fact is we need somebody to stick it in the net now if we’re to have a chance of going up.


It’s decent and very understandable barometer, the problem being that decent recent or long-term goalscoring records also correlate with cost and demand. For all the good things happening in and around the club these past couple of years, we’re still unlikely to have a top 7 budget and so we’re going to have to be smart with any business we do.

Presumably, that’s the reason for employing a recruitment analysis specialist. To avoid that scenario where we bluntly just “sign a lad with a poor record and hope it clicks”.

That’s the basic premise of “moneyball”, isn’t it? You avoid getting into bidding wars for all the obvious targets and instead look to pick up bargains from within the shadows. For example, instead of going after the bloke who’s scored 15 goals from an xG of 10 (a couple of smart finishes, a flukey deflection off his árse and a handful of pens) you take a long look at the lad who only scored 5 from an xG of 15.

Of course, that’s where closer analysis comes in. Does the kid possess great off the ball skill but can’t hit a cows àrse with a banjo, or has he just been unlucky? Perhaps it’s a case of both, but with some work to address those fundamental flaws, you might just have a player on your hands at a fraction of the cost.

A recent case in point; George Lloyd’s scoring record before arriving on loan was bang average to say the least. He hadn’t scored in his last 24 appearances, and had only scored 4 in his last 69 - a ratio of 1 in every roughly 17 games. And yet he’s come in, scored 5 and made 5 in 21 appearances, and has the best goals to minute ratio of any of our main forwards. Perhaps still not an out-and-out goalscorer, but I’d happily have him back next season.

I think it’s important to keep our feet on the ground, embrace the positive 24 months we’ve just had and yet be realistic about where we are in the football food chain. I think it’s fairly unlikely that we’ll sign anyone this summer who scored double figures at this level or above this season just gone, and maybe even the level below. That doesn’t unduly concern me. There’s more to players than just their record on Wikipedia, even if us plebs on here don’t have access to the data that helps reaffirm it.


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I get it but it’s not exactly a daft barometer is it? We’re at the point where we absolutely need somebody to come in & score goals at this level, the method of ‘sign a lad with a poor record & hope it clicks here’ more often than not hasn’t worked for us in recent years.

We can also say goals don’t show what they contribute, but the fact is we need somebody to stick it in the net now if we’re to have a chance of going up.


Leyton Orient blitzed the league and their top goalscorer only scored 10 in 40 games. Think that's one more than our top goalscorer Harry Clifton, pretty sure he scored 9.

If you can share the goals out around the squad rather than banking everything on someone who does nothing much more other than score goals, you still have a chance of going up.


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It’s decent and very understandable barometer, the problem being that decent recent or long-term goalscoring records also correlate with cost and demand. For all the good things happening in and around the club these past couple of years, we’re still unlikely to have a top 7 budget and so we’re going to have to be smart with any business we do.

Presumably, that’s the reason for employing a recruitment analysis specialist. To avoid that scenario where we bluntly just “sign a lad with a poor record and hope it clicks”.

That’s the basic premise of “moneyball”, isn’t it? You avoid getting into bidding wars for all the obvious targets and instead look to pick up bargains from within the shadows. For example, instead of going after the bloke who’s scored 15 goals from an xG of 10 (a couple of smart finishes, a flukey deflection off his árse and a handful of pens) you take a long look at the lad who only scored 5 from an xG of 15.

Of course, that’s where closer analysis comes in. Does the kid possess great off the ball skill but can’t hit a cows àrse with a banjo, or has he just been unlucky? Perhaps it’s a case of both, but with some work to address those fundamental flaws, you might just have a player on your hands at a fraction of the cost.

A recent case in point; George Lloyd’s scoring record before arriving on loan was bang average to say the least. He hadn’t scored in his last 24 appearances, and had only scored 4 in his last 69 - a ratio of 1 in every roughly 17 games. And yet he’s come in, scored 5 and made 5 in 21 appearances, and has the best goals to minute ratio of any of our main forwards. Perhaps still not an out-and-out goalscorer, but I’d happily have him back next season.

I think it’s important to keep our feet on the ground, embrace the positive 24 months we’ve just had and yet be realistic about where we are in the football food chain. I think it’s fairly unlikely that we’ll sign anyone this summer who scored double figures at this level or above this season just gone, and maybe even the level below. That doesn’t unduly concern me. There’s more to players than just their record on Wikipedia, even if us plebs on here don’t have access to the data that helps reaffirm it.


To piggyback on this, Swindon finished on 61 points too but were 13 goals better off than us.....so if the fabled double-digit striker is only making a 2-.0 scoreline a 3.-0 scoreline and not turning 1-1 into 2-1 we could have had Umerah stick 12 in the net for us this year and still finished 11th on 61 points.  Statistics really can be made to show anything

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To piggyback on this, Swindon finished on 61 points too but were 13 goals better off than us.....so if the fabled double-digit striker is only making a 2-.0 scoreline a 3.-0 scoreline and not turning 1-1 into 2-1 we could have had Umerah stick 12 in the net for us this year and still finished 11th on 61 points.  Statistics really can be made to show anything



A post of complete denial. There were at least 70 strikers who hit a minimum of double figures in the EFL this past season. 70, so they're not fabled. It's obvious we need one or two forward or wide players in to hit double figures in order to get promoted. Goalscoring wise our midfielders did their jobs, as did, Efete, Glennon and other defenders who chipped in too. Orient's spread of goalscorers and their relatively low goalscoring season as champions is an anomaly not a norm and shouldn't be used as a defeatist blueprint.. In fact the league as a whole has been a bit goal shy this past season when compared to others.

We'll need to score twenty more and concede ten or fifteen less next season. You expecting Harry to get twenty or our full backs to get ten each?
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To piggyback on this, Swindon finished on 61 points too but were 13 goals better off than us.....so if the fabled double-digit striker is only making a 2-.0 scoreline a 3.-0 scoreline and not turning 1-1 into 2-1 we could have had Umerah stick 12 in the net for us this year and still finished 11th on 61 points.  Statistics really can be made to show anything



Double digit strikers aren’t ‘fabled’, 17 of the 24 teams in our league possessed one this season.
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Double digit strikers aren’t ‘fabled’, 17 of the 24 teams in our league possessed one this season.


Yeah, but don’t let facts get in the way


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Double digit strikers aren’t ‘fabled’, 17 of the 24 teams in our league possessed one this season.


11 of the teams in this division scored less than us this season, whilst only 8 teams conceded more than us.
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11 of the teams in this division scored less than us this season, whilst only 8 teams conceded more than us.


We’ll be going round in circles putting out relatively useless facts all night.

My opinion remains the same on the striking issue, I think a large part of our fan base are massively defeatist when it comes to signing a striker and are somehow convinced they don’t exist. I’m convinced a 12-15 goal striker would make a huge difference next season and would’ve turned some of our 9 draws into wins this, especially at home.

George Lloyd would be a great start to that search.
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We’ll be going round in circles putting out relatively useless facts all night.

My opinion remains the same on the striking issue, I think a large part of our fan base are massively defeatist when it comes to signing a striker and are somehow convinced they don’t exist. I’m convinced a 12-15 goal striker would make a huge difference next season and would’ve turned some of our 9 draws into wins this, especially at home.

George Lloyd would be a great start to that search.


George Lloyd would be an excellent summer signing I agree. We could go around in circles, but it doesn't necessarily matter where the goals from, look where an over-reliance on goals from Tshimanga got Chesterfield last season for example.

My point was that more than a third of those teams with a striker scoring more than 10 goals this season finished below is.

I do however think that whilst a tighter defence would have yielded a few more points, a combination of that and a few more goals in the team would have been necessary to challenge for 7th.
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George Lloyd would be an excellent summer signing I agree. We could go around in circles, but it doesn't necessarily matter where the goals from, look where an over-reliance on goals from Tshimanga got Chesterfield last season for example.

My point was that more than a third of those teams with a striker scoring more than 10 goals this season finished below is.

I do however think that whilst a tighter defence would have yielded a few more points, a combination of that and a few more goals in the team would have been necessary to challenge for 7th.


Moving on the discussion slightly, it will be interesting to see what happens to Tshimanga in the summer. Peterborough don’t seem to fancy him but are presumably committed to a the “permanent” deal once the window reopens.

Presumably they’ll move him on at a loss, though that’s not really how Posh like to operate. Bigger question is where he ends up. It won’t be here, and I’m not overly fussed about that, but I wouldn’t be surprised him in League Two next season. Back at Chesterfield even, if Notts’ day trip doesn’t go to plan on Saturday?


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I think the problem this season is that we made many chances all season but had trouble converting them in to goals, Too many one on ones  tap ins wild shots when i a good position  went begging .. It put preasure on the defence all season
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Moving on the discussion slightly, it will be interesting to see what happens to Tshimanga in the summer. Peterborough don’t seem to fancy him but are presumably committed to a the “permanent” deal once the window reopens.

Presumably they’ll move him on at a loss, though that’s not really how Posh like to operate. Bigger question is where he ends up. It won’t be here, and I’m not overly fussed about that, but I wouldn’t be surprised him in League Two next season. Back at Chesterfield even, if Notts’ day trip doesn’t go to plan on Saturday?


No mention of the word optional in their announcement so it seems they are committed to it: https://www.theposh.com/news/posh-secure-signing-spireites-striker.

I presume it was done as a loan to get the deal through on time, but it could have been done for accounting reasons I guess.
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I think the problem this season is that we made many chances all season but had trouble converting them in to goals, Too many one on ones  tap ins wild shots when i a good position  went begging .. It put preasure on the defence all season


I that's a pretty reasonable response for you denni, and I tend to agree . I think Mark Stilton on Twitter pointed out we were just behind Northampton it terms of shots on goal in home games.
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Leyton Orient blitzed the league and their top goalscorer only scored 10 in 40 games. Think that's one more than our top goalscorer Harry Clifton, pretty sure he scored 9.

If you can share the goals out around the squad rather than banking everything on someone who does nothing much more other than score goals, you still have a chance of going up.


But Leyton Orient had the meanest defence in the division. You don’t need to be prolific scorers to go up, but you need a tight defensive record to make that work.
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But Leyton Orient had the meanest defence in the division. You don’t need to be prolific scorers to go up, but you need a tight defensive record to make that work.


Strikers win games, defences win leagues.

Been hearing that all my life. Don't know how true it actually is statistically, but suspect it is probably correct.
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To state the obvious, If you don't concede, you only need to score once to win.

Hypothesise a season where you win the first 32 games 1-0, then lose the remaining games 10-0. You've certainly won promotion with 96 points (assuming League Two here, with 4 up), but finish with a -108 goal difference! Still promoted. (Until the League deducts points on the assumption you're running some sort of a betting scam...)
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But equally, you could win every game 5-4, which means you have a terrible defence, but a sh1t hot attack.

Think Kevin Keegan at Newcastle, which ultimately failed.

Ultimately, it's a balance of the two, because if you have a good attack, you spend less time defending.
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Strikers win games, defences win leagues.

Been hearing that all my life. Don't know how true it actually is statistically, but suspect it is probably correct.


Boreham Wood would of won the league past 2 years in that sense.
It's a mixture of everything, I don't think you have to be truly special to be promoted out of this league. Maybe have one or two players with abit of stardust (see below) and the rest of the team to be physical, fit, combative and have the right characters which I believe is Hursts key asset

Promoted teams key players:
Leyton Orient - (Moncur & Smyth)
Stevenage - (Reid & Roberts)
Northampton - (Hoskins & Pinnock)

Coupled with centre-backs who can defend which I believe we have one already in Luke Waterfall, does all the basics correct I believe that adding that extra bit of quality next to him will give us that bit of extra umph that we need to keep a few more clean sheets. I think that L2 will be relatively strong next year but as strong as this season? We have Wrexham & Notts County/Chesterfield replacing Rochdale and Hartlepool which will both be upgrades on both of them teams, but the three that have been promoted plus one of the other 4 in the play-offs we have a trade with MK Dons, Accrington, Forest Green & Morecambe. I feel like this is a massive downgrade on the teams which are going up so I believe the league might be slightly weaker than this years, you will have the usual teams throwing money at it to get out of the division:

Wrexham (Go and sign a bunch of lower-end Championship & League One players on massive wages) - Going to be in automatics or very least the Play-offs.
Salford - If not promoted, again bankrolled by Peter Lim will be chucking money around at players to try get out the league even on crowds of 2,000 I bet they are paying £3,000-£4,000 a week to some currently.
Mansfield - Seem to chuck lots of money every season at very average players but nevertheless spend money
Bradford - Again, if not promoted they will have a healthy budget due to the sheer size of them and will always be up there competing.
Stockport - One of these three will go up in the playoffs for me but Stockport have had silly season like a few others spending wrecklessly and wonder how long it will last.
Gillingham - Once taken over by the new American owners and they got them out of the muck in January but said they are willing to invest to move them forward
MK Dons - Still imagine will have a healthy budget coming down from L1 unless Winkleman tightens his pockets?

So realistically there is going to be 6 teams with a far bigger wage budget than us but we will be in the pool with the likes of Tranmere, AFC Wimbledon, Walsall, Swindon, Doncaster & Crewe. If we can be smart with our recruitment in the summer there's no reason we can't be up there.
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Every window we have this discussion about 'proven' strikers and it always interests me that some believe they are just easy to come by.

The first thing to say is that most players that are proven at this level to score goals generally don't stay at this level, unless there are other circumstances be that location, being on an absolute mint (Mullin for example) or having other issues with injuries etc. If we look at the top scorers in this league this year.

Andy Cook - Bradford - Been at this level a while but would argue he is at a club that isn't a League 2 club with the crowds they attract and the money they can pay.

Sam Hoskins - Northampton -  Before this season had scored; 14, 8 and 8. Wouldn't think if we'd signed him in the summer we'd have used the proven goal scorer tag.

Kristian Dennis - Carlisle - We have had here before so all know about him. Previous few years; 2 in league 2, 3 in the SPL and 13 in the National League. Again that doesn't scream proven scorer.

Luke Armstrong - Harrogate. His second season at this level, a decent return last year of 12. However before that he was at National League level and scored 13 after a season in League 2 where he netted 1 goal.

Omar Bogle - Newport County - I don't think i need to explain anything about Omar
     
Daniel Agyei - Crewe - Scored a grand total of 1 goal last year in League one after making 23 appearances.

The point I am trying to make is none of these would fit the tag some seem to be screaming out for other than maybe Andy Cook, but he is a slightly different example.

What is important at this level is identifying someone like a George Lloyd that maybe is young and hasn't done it yet but have the potential to become a very good striker at this level. (Armstrong and Agyei would probably fit that mould). Or take a chance on someone bagging a lot of goals at a lower level and see if they can make the step up (NL level of course but Hearn and Omar were examples of these).

Other than that your only option is to chuck silly money at players and as you can see from the list, that doesn't necessarily mean they will be in the top scorers list come the end of the season.

Nick Haughton, who rumours suggest is almost certain to be here next year is a great example. 26 goals from a number 10 role and 16 assists, but two divisions lower and now 28... can he do it at this level? Quite possibly, and If he scored half of those goals he'd be almost on the above list.

Both Newport and Harrogate have players on the above list, but finished below us. It isn't the silver bullet it is sometimes made out to be. Good strikers is a must, but I think looking at pure numbers out of any sort of context is not how we will or should go about it.


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The better attack you have, the less your defence has to do.  

Defensively the best unit I've seen at Town was in the highly successful 97/98 team.  Record number of clean sheets, pretty sure there was a record run of minutes without a goal conceded, just a bloody good back 5.  One that was pretty nailed on too.  Davison, McDermott, Gallimore, Handyside, Lever.  Then of course the likes of Butterfield, Smith (both)et al, coming in when needed.

But they had less to do.  We kept teams occupied at the other end of the pitch.  Fullbacks weren't as keen to rampage forward against us because we penned them in, they knew if they gave Donovan or Black/Smith.D a bit of space they would more often than not get caught out.  

Watch any of the clips of that season and see how many of our goals came from dragging opposition players out of position with cohesive movement and capitalising on it.  It didn't happen by chance.  We had fullbacks who could cut inside and go down the line, that creates so much space.  Nogan was a master at dragging his centre back into midfield with Lester wrestling with his in the corner.  That resulted in either Donovan or Groves exploiting that space created.

Very few teams at that level were prepared to risk pressing our defence because we were so potent in attack.  

Equally so the confidence that team had stemmed from the back. Davison commanded his area and never missed a beat.  Anything out of his area and up to the halfway line the defenders dealt with.  Knowing that Macca had everything sorted allowed Donovan to roam about, he very rarely stuck to his flank.  Groves had that licence to go on because he knew that if he was out of position then Handyside or Lever were capable of picking up the pieces.  

Football isn't played on paper and whilst good in isolation, a deadly attack and a tight defence are much better in tandem.  Your defence can be near water tight, but if teams are continually hammering at it then it eventually breaches.  Equally so even the most deadly of strikers have off days.  Both the breaches and off days happen more frequently at our level.

Your better off having a very good defence and a very good attack than one excellent and one less so - which is what I believe we had last season (in the main).
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A post of complete denial. There were at least 70 strikers who hit a minimum of double figures in the EFL this past season. 70, so they're not fabled. It's obvious we need one or two forward or wide players in to hit double figures in order to get promoted. Goalscoring wise our midfielders did their jobs, as did, Efete, Glennon and other defenders who chipped in too. Orient's spread of goalscorers and their relatively low goalscoring season as champions is an anomaly not a norm and shouldn't be used as a defeatist blueprint.. In fact the league as a whole has been a bit goal shy this past season when compared to others.

We'll need to score twenty more and concede ten or fifteen less next season. You expecting Harry to get twenty or our full backs to get ten each?


Seems like a lot of people got caught up on the sarcastic words 'fabled double digit striker' and entirely missed the point of the actual post as a whole, I agree we need to score more but the application of where/when those goals are scored counts for far more than raw numbers.  A striker who only scores 5 a season, but all 5 turn 0-0 into 1-0, is worth far more points wise than a lad who scores 20 but they turn 2-.0 into 6-0 every time.  That's more what I'm saying.

And actually,  35 of those 70 players got 12 or less across champ/l1/l2 so even if we set the bar as low as only 13+ for a 'real' clinical high scorer, that's 35 players in 72 teams, average squad size what 25? out of 1800ish players only 35 scored more than 12 goals so maybe they are fabled........only joking.  I'd love a top striker to come here, but I don't believe we have pockets deep enough to get one at this present moment.  I think it's more realistic to have a range of midfielders/wide/forwards who can all contribute 6-10 each to make up the goals required and to be perfectly honest with all the chances we've been creating second half of the season it looks like that's a viable option with a few new acquisitions who won't distort the wage structure in the way someone like Mullin would .  We need to practise shooting/confidence this summer regardless of who we bring in though as so many tap ins and 1 vs 1's went begging this season.

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I think the problem this season is that we made many chances all season but had trouble converting them in to goals, Too many one on ones  tap ins wild shots when i a good position  went begging .. It put preasure on the defence all season


The old saying is ' The best form of defence is Attack'. I think it's still true today.



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So in conclusion there’s more than one way to skin a cat then?


Certainly is.



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The Kevin Keegan thing's a bit of a myth anyway, Newcastle scored fewer (or is it less?) than Man U (and Liverpool) that season.


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Seems like a lot of people got caught up on the sarcastic words 'fabled double digit striker' and entirely missed the point of the actual post as a whole, I agree we need to score more but the application of where/when those goals are scored counts for far more than raw numbers.  A striker who only scores 5 a season, but all 5 turn 0-0 into 1-0, is worth far more points wise than a lad who scores 20 but they turn 2-.0 into 6-0 every time.  That's more what I'm saying.

And actually,  35 of those 70 players got 12 or less across champ/l1/l2 so even if we set the bar as low as only 13+ for a 'real' clinical high scorer, that's 35 players in 72 teams, average squad size what 25? out of 1800ish players only 35 scored more than 12 goals so maybe they are fabled........only joking.  I'd love a top striker to come here, but I don't believe we have pockets deep enough to get one at this present moment.  I think it's more realistic to have a range of midfielders/wide/forwards who can all contribute 6-10 each to make up the goals required and to be perfectly honest with all the chances we've been creating second half of the season it looks like that's a viable option with a few new acquisitions who won't distort the wage structure in the way someone like Mullin would .  We need to practise shooting/confidence this summer regardless of who we bring in though as so many tap ins and 1 vs 1's went begging this season.



There's been a concentration on the point of our lack of strikers, which has been proven this year. Hurst is going to have to increase his budget at that end of the pitch to get better outcomes. It doesn't necessarily mean that he has to go out and get an established 20 goal a season man. There could be a young player released from a Championship side who would like his drop in wages lessening or a risk on a player from below. Our central defence has been fairly solid and we've already got Waterfall and Maher, need two more and hopefully Hurst can persuade Smith to sign permanently. Looking at the season's goals reel, goal involvemments from full back are not a problem. Likewise, the same could be said of Clifton, Holohan and Khan. The problem is our midfield didn't control enough games. Our lack of pace up front didn't stretch opponents' defences, get them turned or put them on the back foot. We were quite static at times, easily squeezed, giving our midfield less room. We need two more midfielders that help to compliment Hunt and we need pacier sharper forwards who can capitalise on Hunt's quicker thinking forward balls. Get their defence turning, everything else becomes a lot easier. Also, when have we last had a player that can turn a hurried clearance forward into an attack because he's quicker than their defence? Lloyd is nearly that man but we need even better with hopefully him as a back up or a partner. I don't think we should be looking for an EFL striker that's already been banging them in, but I do think Hurst has got to invest more for strikers, wide players and a midfielder than can make a huge difference. He has no problems signing decent defenders, it's up to the newly formed scouting department to mitigate the risks and unearth a few gems further up the pitch, and yes it's going to take some money to do that. Not Mullen money, but more than we've been paying recently..
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There's been a concentration on the point of our lack of strikers, which has been proven this year. Hurst is going to have to increase his budget at that end of the pitch to get better outcomes. It doesn't necessarily mean that he has to go out and get an established 20 goal a season man. There could be a young player released from a Championship side who would like his drop in wages lessening or a risk on a player from below. Our central defence has been fairly solid and we've already got Waterfall and Maher, need two more and hopefully Hurst can persuade Smith to sign permanently. Looking at the season's goals reel, goal involvemments from full back are not a problem. Likewise, the same could be said of Clifton, Holohan and Khan. The problem is our midfield didn't control enough games. Our lack of pace up front didn't stretch opponents' defences, get them turned or put them on the back foot. We were quite static at times, easily squeezed, giving our midfield less room. We need two more midfielders that help to compliment Hunt and we need pacier sharper forwards who can capitalise on Hunt's quicker thinking forward balls. Get their defence turning, everything else becomes a lot easier. Also, when have we last had a player that can turn a hurried clearance forward into an attack because he's quicker than their defence? Lloyd is nearly that man but we need even better with hopefully him as a back up or a partner. I don't think we should be looking for an EFL striker that's already been banging them in, but I do think Hurst has got to invest more for strikers, wide players and a midfielder than can make a huge difference. He has no problems signing decent defenders, it's up to the newly formed scouting department to mitigate the risks and unearth a few gems further up the pitch, and yes it's going to take some money to do that. Not Mullen money, but more than we've been paying recently..


I agree we need to spend more, but I am also realistic enough to know that some of the strikers mentioned on here will have better financial offers from clubs with more money or who want to pay more whether they can afford it or not. I don't think Hurst will be able nor willing to pay the sort of money that in demand strikers will want.

That probably leaves us with being very clever with recruitment and taking more of a chance on players that won't necessarily get the pulses racing initially but they still won't come cheap. Money is the key to unlocking the riches we need and that will come as no surprise.
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The Kevin Keegan thing's a bit of a myth anyway, Newcastle scored fewer (or is it less?) than Man U (and Liverpool) that season.


'fewer' is correct.
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I think our biggest downfall is defending in the full back areas, we need much more pace there. The amount of times our fullbacks are beaten on the outside and the ball is cut back to a striker in the box was a huge cause for concern.
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So in conclusion there’s more than one way to skin a cat then?


We need a couple of wingers that could skin a full back.

Does that count?


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Gotta be worth looking at where players Head of Recruitment Joe Hutchinson has previously brought in.

Down the A46, Lincoln have announced their retained list - https://www.weareimps.com/news/2023/may/retained-list/ (Which interestingly listed Charles Vernam as under contract)

Regan Poole has been released but he'll be Championship bound.

Max Sanders could be an interesting one though.  In and around their squad and side all season without ever really making a slot his own.  Signed in 2021 when Hutchinson was heading up the recruitment at Sincil Bank.  

Highly thought of at Brighton, but then again so was James Tilley.
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Gotta be worth looking at where players Head of Recruitment Joe Hutchinson has previously brought in.

Down the A46, Lincoln have announced their retained list - https://www.weareimps.com/news/2023/may/retained-list/ (Which interestingly listed Charles Vernam as under contract)

Regan Poole has been released but he'll be Championship bound.

Max Sanders could be an interesting one though.  In and around their squad and side all season without ever really making a slot his own.  Signed in 2021 when Hutchinson was heading up the recruitment at Sincil Bank.  

Highly thought of at Brighton, but then again so was James Tilley.


Max Sanders made 42 appearances for Lincoln last season, and their fans seem to be of the opinion that he’s good enough to play in League One. Definitely worth a look; he’s got a shot on him…



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I think our biggest downfall is defending in the full back areas, we need much more pace there. The amount of times our fullbacks are beaten on the outside and the ball is cut back to a striker in the box was a huge cause for concern.


I think Efete is certainly pacy enough, though he still doesn't seem like a 'natural' full-back to me. He acquitted himself well against Premier League opposition as far as pace goes. Glennon a bit slow, Amos probably just about fast enough but not fancied ahead of Glennon as things stand.
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I think Efete is certainly pacy enough, though he still doesn't seem like a 'natural' full-back to me. He acquitted himself well against Premier League opposition as far as pace goes. Glennon a bit slow, Amos probably just about fast enough but not fancied ahead of Glennon as things stand.


What puts Glennon ahead of the other full backs, for me, is his defending is adequate at this level although definite room for improvement but his goal involvement and attacking threat is far far superior to the others and maybe towards the higher end in the league. (Assists about 1 in 4 games)

He suffered abit with an injury/illness during the season and was out of the team for a while, but before that he was part of a back 4 that was doing really well with clean sheets.


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Danny Johnson released by Mansfield. I’d have him no trouble.

Absolutely terrible the way Clough’s treated him this season.
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I'd definitely take Johnson here.  Imagine Walsall will be favourites for him mind.

Love the shitehousery from him in this tweet reflecting on his season with his loan and parent club.

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Danny Johnson released by Mansfield. I’d have him no trouble.

Absolutely terrible the way Clough’s treated him this season.


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Didn’t Buckley try to sign him?
This is Fabregas plus one.


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There’s some stunning comments on that thread.


Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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Not worth more than 150k….

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Brilliant that. If only we knew then what we know now.
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Would rather have had Damian Reeves anyway.


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Would rather have had Damian Reeves anyway.


A close shave for Damian Reeves. It could have been his wife being sued for depilation.
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Boreham Wood would of won the league past 2 years in that sense.
It's a mixture of everything, I don't think you have to be truly special to be promoted out of this league. Maybe have one or two players with abit of stardust (see below) and the rest of the team to be physical, fit, combative and have the right characters which I believe is Hursts key asset

Promoted teams key players:
Leyton Orient - (Moncur & Smyth)
Stevenage - (Reid & Roberts)
Northampton - (Hoskins & Pinnock)

Coupled with centre-backs who can defend which I believe we have one already in Luke Waterfall, does all the basics correct I believe that adding that extra bit of quality next to him will give us that bit of extra umph that we need to keep a few more clean sheets. I think that L2 will be relatively strong next year but as strong as this season? We have Wrexham & Notts County/Chesterfield replacing Rochdale and Hartlepool which will both be upgrades on both of them teams, but the three that have been promoted plus one of the other 4 in the play-offs we have a trade with MK Dons, Accrington, Forest Green & Morecambe. I feel like this is a massive downgrade on the teams which are going up so I believe the league might be slightly weaker than this years, you will have the usual teams throwing money at it to get out of the division:

Wrexham (Go and sign a bunch of lower-end Championship & League One players on massive wages) - Going to be in automatics or very least the Play-offs.
Salford - If not promoted, again bankrolled by Peter Lim will be chucking money around at players to try get out the league even on crowds of 2,000 I bet they are paying £3,000-£4,000 a week to some currently.
Mansfield - Seem to chuck lots of money every season at very average players but nevertheless spend money
Bradford - Again, if not promoted they will have a healthy budget due to the sheer size of them and will always be up there competing.
Stockport - One of these three will go up in the playoffs for me but Stockport have had silly season like a few others spending wrecklessly and wonder how long it will last.
Gillingham - Once taken over by the new American owners and they got them out of the muck in January but said they are willing to invest to move them forward
MK Dons - Still imagine will have a healthy budget coming down from L1 unless Winkleman tightens his pockets?

So realistically there is going to be 6 teams with a far bigger wage budget than us but we will be in the pool with the likes of Tranmere, AFC Wimbledon, Walsall, Swindon, Doncaster & Crewe. If we can be smart with our recruitment in the summer there's no reason we can't be up there.




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If Bradford don’t go up I can see it all going pear shaped over there. They don’t have a great deal of confidence in Hughes as it is.
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I heard the same from a Bradford fan in the pub last week.


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Didn’t Buckley try to sign him?
This is Fabregas plus one.


With Vardy and Busquets we could be in business next season!

On a more serious note, I see Gillingham have already made a signing so hopefully we can get some deals finalised asap too

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Harry Smith -  Orient -  has been mentioned on the grapevine


Comes with a massive amount of baggage apparently.

Allegedly has serious gambling issues.
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Comes with a massive amount of baggage apparently.

Allegedly has serious gambling issues.


Maybe he can teach some of our other strikers to gamble a bit more, then.

On a serious note, I'm aware that he took time out of the game a few years back to get help for a gambling addiction. I don't know whether or not he has managed slay his demons, but on the surface it seems a bit unfair to write someone off because they've struggled with a vice.


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Comes with a massive amount of baggage apparently.

Allegedly has serious gambling issues.


Jesus Christ, what a fúcking thing to say.

Even a cursory glance at his history would show it was more than 5 years ago since he sought help for his addiction, and he’s been playing generally above our level ever since.
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Ryan Bennett offered a new contract at Cambridge (not confirmed if he’s taking it).

Both Joe Ironside and Sam Smith released.
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Ryan Bennett offered a new contract at Cambridge (not confirmed if he’s taking it).

Both Joe Ironside and Sam Smith released.

Bit of chat that Ironside will be off to Wrexham, but then again so are Danny Mayor, Cole Stockton, Andy Cook, Sam Clucas and pretty much every decent player up for grabs in L1/L2 so hard to really take any Wrexham links seriously. I thought Ironside was class that season Cambridge went up though and if he's realistically up for grabs then he'd be a great shout for us.
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Imagine they’ll be the new Bradford and get linked with every half-decent player going. With all the cash they’re swimming in I’d expect them to be signing top end League 1 players this summer.
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Ben Killip is at Hartlepool, was previously at the club under Hurst and Jeff Stelling is always very complimentary about him as a goalkeeper. Wouldn’t mind him turning up here


Ive always rated him. Had a good season by all accounts
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We approach a player and are told the fee is £50k and he wants £2.5 k a week. Wrexham show interest and suddenly its £200k and £20k a week.


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but on the surface it seems a bit unfair to write someone off because they've struggled with a vice.


Try telling my old woodwork teacher that !!


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Try telling my old woodwork teacher that !!


Was he a pimp


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Ryan Bennett offered a new contract at Cambridge (not confirmed if he’s taking it).

Both Joe Ironside and Sam Smith released.


The Cambridge fans are worried about losing him to teams higher up the pyramid rather than him coming to us.

It would be a serious coup if we sneaked Bennett.
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The Cambridge fans are worried about losing him to teams higher up the pyramid rather than him coming to us.

It would be a serious coup if we sneaked Bennett.


Agree totally about getting RB being a coup. Maybe this is the right time to get RB in. Doubtful that smith will be coming back.

Only thing that would worry me is the age, potentially, of our CB’s if he did come back. Waterfall is 32 and RB would be 33. Maher is 27 but apart from that, have we got any other CB’s at the club at the moment?


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If Bradford don’t go up I can see it all going pear shaped over there. They don’t have a great deal of confidence in Hughes as it is.


Interesting perspective, is that.

If we fail in to go up, we just go again with a bigger budget than this season.

Season ticket sales are up compared to this season and we’ll make at least £300k through the play-offs - possibly another £500k if we reach Wembley.


We’re where we are without really pulling up any trees. Had we not have conceded goals in the 95th, 97th and 101th minute, we’d have finished 2nd.

Small margins
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Jesus Christ, what a fúcking thing to say.

Even a cursory glance at his history would show it was more than 5 years ago since he sought help for his addiction, and he’s been playing generally above our level ever since.


Just quoting what some orient fans have been saying and they believe his issue has returned which is one of the reasons he has played very little for them and was loaned out. He’s clearly a quality striker.
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Interesting perspective, is that.

If we fail in to go up, we just go again with a bigger budget than this season.

Season ticket sales are up compared to this season and we’ll make at least £300k through the play-offs - possibly another £500k if we reach Wembley.


We’re where we are without really pulling up any trees. Had we not have conceded goals in the 95th, 97th and 101th minute, we’d have finished 2nd.

Small margins


In the NL the clubs competing in the playoffs don't get the takings from the playoff games I believe, they are shared out amongst the whole league aren't they? Is it different in the EFL?
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Interesting perspective, is that.

If we fail in to go up, we just go again with a bigger budget than this season.

Season ticket sales are up compared to this season and we’ll make at least £300k through the play-offs - possibly another £500k if we reach Wembley.


We’re where we are without really pulling up any trees. Had we not have conceded goals in the 95th, 97th and 101th minute, we’d have finished 2nd.

Small margins



If you don’t go up does that prove throwing money at it might not be the best way to do it?

Even now I’m surprised you took Hughes, a big name for sure, a great player and a serial winner on the pitch. In reality he’s achieved nothing as a manager at several decent clubs with good players at his disposal.

That said out of the 4 very similar level teams in the play offs from what I’ve seen this season I think you’re a decent bet for promotion.


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Quoted from queenybantam07


Interesting perspective, is that.

If we fail in to go up, we just go again with a bigger budget than this season.

Season ticket sales are up compared to this season and we’ll make at least £300k through the play-offs - possibly another £500k if we reach Wembley.


We’re where we are without really pulling up any trees. Had we not have conceded goals in the 95th, 97th and 101th minute, we’d have finished 2nd.

Small margins


I know a couple of Bradford fans. Just repeating what I’ve heard them say.
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James Wilson leaves Port Vale.


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Just seemed a random name to pick out. Have we been linked with jim before?
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Just seemed a random name to pick out. Have we been linked with jim before?


Fair enough. Looks decent on Wiki, perhaps a bit above what we can expect was my feeling.
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Think they rated him very highly and a big part of their promotion but been released due to ongoing injury issues.
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Random finding - Macaulay Bonne released by Charlton,

Ex Lincoln ?

Any thoughts on him as a player or a potential target?

James Wilson is the archetypal injury prone player that we seem to get something out of, so again, is he worth a look?
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Random finding - Macaulay Bonne released by Charlton,

Ex Lincokn ?

Any thoughts on him as a player or a potential target?

James Wilson is the archetypal injury prone player that we seem to get something out of, so again, worth a look?


I feel like we've been linked with Bonne before, would be a very good signing
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Harry Smith released by Orient

Orient also release Craig Clay.



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Would love it if we signed Smith. Quality L2 player
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Gotta think it’ll be Gillingham or Colchester or some other southeast shít tip like that.
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Gotta think it’ll be Gillingham or Colchester or some other southeast shít tip like that.


If he gets homesick in Devon I can’t see him being too keen on Cleethorpes.


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Wouldn’t be surprised if Smith turned up at Sutton or Wimbledon. Issue with homesickness during his loan this season.


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Wouldn’t be surprised if Smith turned up at Sutton or Wimbledon. Issue with homesickness during his loan this season.


Wasn’t he on loan at Barnet?


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Wasn’t he on loan at Barnet?


Exeter, originally. Didn’t work out.


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How can a grown man get homesick ffs ? Exeter is about 3 hours from London.


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Wasn’t he on loan at Barnet?


Yes, think as he’d played for two clubs already he had to drop into no league to get a game as Orient clear didn’t want him.


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How can a grown man get homesick ffs ? Exeter is about 3 hours from London.


Harsh, we have no idea what was/is going on in the lads private life etc. Let’s not be so quick to judge people when you don’t have a clue about them or their circumstances.


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Exeter, originally. Didn’t work out.


Makes sense now👍


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We will only sign 1 or 0 out of the 100's mentioned on here .Our Paul will pull a good few unknown gems out of the bag , probably a ringer or two as well .Which is fine .

I just hope he does not go down the trial route of these kids from academies higher up on loan again it's a waste of time for them and us .

Just 1 or 2 of Smith , Towler or Townsend quality will do .

Quality over quantity
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How can a grown man get homesick ffs ? Exeter is about 3 hours from London.


Not everyone is comfortable with upping sticks and spending most/all of the week away from their families. It's not always that simple to uproot your family every time a club decides they don't want you anymore.
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We will only sign 1 or 0 out of the 100's mentioned on here .Our Paul will pull a good few unknown gems out of the bag , probably a ringer or two as well .Which is fine .

I just hope he does not go down the trial route of these kids from academies higher up on loan again it's a waste of time for them and us .

Just 1 or 2 of Smith , Towler or Townsend quality will do .

Quality over quantity


If we are indeed going down the data-led route, broadly made famous by the likes of Brentford and Brighton, then by definition you sign players less obvious to other managers and clubs. And if they’re less obvious to other managers, then they’ll almost certainly be less obvious to casual fans.

Brighton are a good case in point actually. They look as though they’ll finish 6th in the Premier League this season, ahead of much bigger clubs in Spurs, Chelsea and, erm, Everton. We know from experience what a great team they are. But who had ever heard of Alexis Mac Allister, Kaoru Mitoma or Moises Caicedo before they rocked up at the Amex?

I expect this summer may well be remembered as more exciting in hindsight than it might seem in real time.


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A few ex players names are being thrown around.

However, one I’d genuinely be very interested in is Reece Hall-Johnson.

He ticks a lot of boxes & can’t remember any dark clouds or anything surrounding his departure.


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A few ex players names are being thrown around.

However, one I’d genuinely be very interested in is Reece Hall-Johnson.

He ticks a lot of boxes & can’t remember any dark clouds or anything surrounding his departure.


He managed 2 appearances in the National League last season. I understand why the names of ex-players get dredged up on threads like this, but if we can’t do better than Reece Hall-Johnson then we may as well bring Seb Ring back while we’re at it.


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He managed 2 appearances in the National League last season. I understand why the names of ex-players get dredged up on threads like this, but if we can’t do better than Reece Hall-Johnson then we may as well bring Seb Ring back while we’re at it.


Not Seb Ring but I think we should be casting our net  further afield than just the UK.

Denmark have some gems waiting to be discovered also Norway both countries are colder than Cleethorpes. So they would like it here.


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Maybe a bit of an ex mariners thread but I’d be happy with Vernam, Bennett and even Craig Clay. Played 30 odd games in getting promoted with Orient.
Harvey Cartwright also makes sense being a Grimsby lad.
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Have Cambridge offered Bennett anything for next season?


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Have Cambridge offered Bennett anything for next season?


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Have Cambridge offered Bennett anything for next season?


Yes, saw something the other day that their fans were worried about losing him further up.


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Not Seb Ring but I think we should be casting our net  further afield than just the UK.

Denmark have some gems waiting to be discovered also Norway both countries are colder than Cleethorpes. So they would like it here.


Anyone we’d be able to sign wouldn’t be able to get a work permit.

The days of random Spanish or French players popping up in the lower leagues are over.


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Been told we have gone quiet on nick haughton and Stockport are also keen on the player depending on which league they end up in will keep you updated but looks unlikely at the moment, as for RHJ he fell out the managers plans as soon as they signed Anthony forde for big bucks then also signed Ryan Barnett who plays that role was always going to be difficult for him to get any game time at Wrexham


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You would have thought we need -
1/2Keepers
1 right back
2 centre backs
1 midfielder
4/5 Attacking players
So maybe 10 in , in total ?
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If we are indeed going down the data-led route, broadly made famous by the likes of Brentford and Brighton, then by definition you sign players less obvious to other managers and clubs. And if they’re less obvious to other managers, then they’ll almost certainly be less obvious to casual fans.

Brighton are a good case in point actually. They look as though they’ll finish 6th in the Premier League this season, ahead of much bigger clubs in Spurs, Chelsea and, erm, Everton. We know from experience what a great team they are. But who had ever heard of Alexis Mac Allister, Kaoru Mitoma or Moises Caicedo before they rocked up at the Amex?

I expect this summer may well be remembered as more exciting in hindsight than it might seem in real time.


Does anybody know when these 2 clubs often cited, Brighton and Brentford, both of whom were similar clubs to us not long ago, started their data led revolution?

Was it while they were mid table league 2, or was it when they had already secured a promotion or two and were clearly on the up?

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Does anybody know when these 2 clubs often cited, Brighton and Brentford, both of whom were similar clubs to us not long ago, started their data led revolution?

Was it while they were mid table league 2, or was it when they had already secured a promotion or two and were clearly on the up?



Brentford’s owner Matthew Benham took full control of the club in 2012, when they were in League One. He’d been involved with the club before, but I believe it was introduced around this time.

Tony Bloom bought Brighton in 2009, but I think it was a little while later that he introduced an algorithmic approach to recruitment. They’d have been in the Champship by this point.

Neither club was anything like the finished article when this broad type of approach was introduced.



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Brentford’s owner Matthew Benham took full control of the club in 2012, when they were in League One. He’d been involved with the club before, but I believe it was introduced around this time.

Tony Bloom bought Brighton in 2009, but I think it was a little while later that he introduced an algorithmic approach to recruitment. They’d have been in the Champship by this point.

Neither club was anything like the finished article when this broad type of approach was introduced.



Cheers. I thought that would be the case. Time will tell if it is money well spent at this stage of our development then.
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Random finding - Macaulay Bonne released by Charlton,

Ex Lincoln ?

Any thoughts on him as a player or a potential target?


Would be a great signing and coming towards his physical prime at 27. Born in Ipswich and aside from a brief spell at Lincoln, he's been based in and around London. Would not expect him to make the move north, and I think there may be bigger and better options for him I'm afraid.
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Cheers. I thought that would be the case. Time will tell if it is money well spent at this stage of our development then.


Probably worth noting that their respective owners are supremely wealthy. Bloom has loaned Brighton something like £500m over the past 10 years or so. About £100m of that was for their stadium, but still…

Having a smart model helps, it stops you doing what Chelsea have been doing this season if nothing else. But a few hundred million pounds certainly sweetens the deal.


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Probably worth noting that their respective owners are supremely wealthy. Bloom has loaned Brighton something like £500m over the past 10 years or so. About £100m of that was for their stadium, but still…

Having a smart model helps, it stops you doing what Chelsea have been doing this season if nothing else. But a few hundred million pounds certainly sweetens the deal.


Indeed. Whichever way you cut it seismic amounts of money are needed to get anywhere near their levels, whichever model you choose.

Mind you, a journey starts with the first step as they say.
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Indeed. Whichever way you cut it seismic amounts of money are needed to get anywhere near their levels, whichever model you choose.

Mind you, a journey starts with the first step as they say.


Yep, Luton probably represent a more realistic model to aspire to overall. I’m sure that money has gone in there to some extent, but they could be playing in the Premier League next season with a ground in a poorer state than BP, as well as players (or at least a player) from their non-league days with us.

I don’t think that club gets the credit or media focus that it deserves.


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Does anybody know when these 2 clubs often cited, Brighton and Brentford, both of whom were similar clubs to us not long ago, started their data led revolution?

Was it while they were mid table league 2, or was it when they had already secured a promotion or two and were clearly on the up?



Definitely before the algorithm told them both they'd need new stadiums..
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Quoted from Mappers
You would have thought we need -
1/2Keepers
1 right back
2 centre backs
1 midfielder
4/5 Attacking players
So maybe 10 in , in total ?


More likely..

2 keepers if Max does go
1 right back
1 left back
2 centre halves
2 wide players
2 midfielders, maybe three including number tens
3 strikers

And one or two already contracted to leave..
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I don't think we'll get another left-back with both Glennon and Amos contracted. We might perhaps sign a winger who can play as a wing-back or a central defender who can also play at full-back, but I can't see there being space in the squad for 3 specialist left-backs.
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I don't think we'll get another left-back with both Glennon and Amos contracted. We might perhaps sign a winger who can play as a wing-back or a central defender who can also play at full-back, but I can't see there being space in the squad for 3 specialist left-backs.


They're both contracted, but that doesn't mean that they'll both be here come August if Hurst can find an upgrade, especially Amos..Same can be said of the central midfielders..

You sit on the final year of your contract and not play, it could be your last at this level..
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Quoted from Bigdog


They're both contracted, but that doesn't mean that they'll both be here come August if Hurst can find an upgrade, especially Amos..Same can be said of the central midfielders..

You sit on the final year of your contract and not play, it could be your last at this level..

Assuming it was an appearance related extension that Amos triggered (which it might well not have been admittedly), I reckon it's safe to deduce that PH is happy with Amos as backup to Glennon. I personally don't think we'll find better in that position than Glennon. He needs to add a bit more consistency to his game though. I'd be surprised if we're actively looking for left backs for the start of the season.

Only CM I see us potentially moving on is Holohan. I think the criticism of Green over the course of the season is a bit harsh and we need that kind of player in the squad, Clifton will obviously be here unless he's tempted away by a L1 one club, Hunt will be firmly in PH's plans and Khouri is one to develop. Holohan has put in some top performances this season but when he has a stinker or even when he's just a bit off the pace he can look out of his depth and being in the box to box mould as opposed to a bit more niche like Hunt and Green puts him at more risk of being replaced for me.
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Assuming it was an appearance related extension that Amos triggered (which it might well not have been admittedly), I reckon it's safe to deduce that PH is happy with Amos as backup to Glennon. I personally don't think we'll find better in that position than Glennon. He needs to add a bit more consistency to his game. I'd be surprised if we're actively looking for left backs for the start of the season.

Only CM I see us potentially moving on is Holohan. I think the criticism of Green over the course of the season is a bit harsh and we need that kind of player in the squad, Clifton will obviously be here unless he's tempted away by a L1 one club, Hunt will be firmly in PH's plans and Khouri is one to develop. Holohan has put in some top performances this season but when he has a stinker or even when he's just a bit off the pace he can look out of his depth and being in the box to box mould as opposed to a bit more niche like Hunt and Green puts him at more risk of being replaced for me.


Really? I think Glennon is alright most of the time but if he's the best we can do at LB I'd be a bit sad.
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I think there's been so much attention on our lack of potency up top, a lot are overlooking our defensive frailties. We'll need to concede a lot less goals if we want to be near the play offs next season and I think Glennon is the defensive weak link at the minute. That being said, if he can improve his speed which is poor for a fullback at this level, it'll probably go a long way.
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In a back 4 l prefer Amos,   as a wing back l prefer Glennon, but l'm not the manager and whoever is picked l will get behind , that's  the job of a GTFC supporter !
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I think there's been so much attention on our lack of potency up top, a lot are overlooking our defensive frailties. We'll need to concede a lot less goals if we want to be near the play offs next season and I think Glennon is the defensive weak link at the minute. That being said, if he can improve his speed which is poor for a fullback at this level, it'll probably go a long way.


I've been saying that for a while, but not the Glennon bit as he's still learning but just we conceded too many what looked like soft goals.


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Think we need more pace all over the pitch if i'm honest, one thing Sousa gave us was he never got beaten on the outside and it helped Efete massively defensively. The amount of times we conceded goals because we was beaten on the outside, they get to the byline and cut it back to a free man in the middle was quite concerning.
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Really? I think Glennon is alright most of the time but if he's the best we can do at LB I'd be a bit sad.

I think he definitely needs to improve a bit defensively (which I'm convinced will happen under Hurst) but he's without a doubt one of the best attacking full backs in the division. Most assists in our squad, almost double second place in fact. If we had a striker with a bit of physical presence that got into the box then he'd have more than likely been up there among the highest in the division for assists.
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Paul McCallum might be one on Hurst's radar . Taylor type striker .
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Paul McCallum might be one on Hurst's radar . Taylor type striker .


Of course we need a non league journeyman. Perfect.
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Possibly way out of our league but there’s Sam clucas that’s been released by stoke 😂😂😂

No chance I’d have thought


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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Possibly way out of our league but there’s Sam clucas that’s been released by stoke 😂😂😂

No chance I’d have thought


You’d think so, wouldn’t you? But then several clubs at our level signed players of a simile pedigree and age last summer and have generally been among the runners and riders at the top end of the table this season. George Moncur, Richie Smallwood, et al.

It’s just the type of signing I’d like to see us make, and then you see that Clucas is from Lincoln and has spent a couple of years at Hull previously too. At 32, is there an outside chance of him coming here if Lincoln didn’t fancy him? Or would he just go back to his old club Mansfield if a League Two move was on the cards? Or maybe even Wrexham.

I’ve tried to talk myself into thinking it could happen, but there’s bound to be at least one club ahead of us in the queue, I should think.


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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Possibly way out of our league but there’s Sam clucas that’s been released by stoke 😂😂😂

No chance I’d have thought


He’s a Lincoln lad and I used to play for same team as his dad and pretty common knowledge in Lincoln that he wants to return and play for the Chimps before he retires. Would guess know would be that time if Kennedy wants him and guess we will find out in next few weeks ( unless I bump into hid dad beforehand).
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I can honestly se kiernon coming back.


As if.


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I can honestly se kiernon coming back.


If he wasn’t someone we wanted in January I struggle
to see the logic of him being someone we’d be in for this summer having only made a handful of appearances for Hartlepool.


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I can honestly se kiernon coming back.


I don’t think he ticks the ‘continuous improvement’ box.
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Just spotted this on the ever reliable Wikipedia page but I did see tweets yesterday of a possible incoming so you never know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wilson_(English_footballer)

Edit: I can’t seem to get the link to work properly, but just look up James Wilson Port Vale
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If I were in charge of the country, I’d line up everyone who edits footballers’ wikipedia pages to make up transfer rumours against a wall and machine gun them into a fine pulp. Along with everyone who believes them.

Sorry, I don’t make the rules.
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When are we likely to hear any transfer news/rumours?  Do we have to wait until July before the club is allowed to announce any new signings?
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Most players are usually in contract until the end of June I think?

It’s usually quiet for a few weeks as everyone disappears off on holiday (Hurst’s in Portugal at the minute) and usually starts to pick up mid-June ahead of returning to training at the start of July.

Would imagine you could essentially sign someone & announce it whenever, but won’t be able to register them until later in the summer.  Not that it makes much difference.
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Quoted from ska face
Most players are usually in contract until the end of June I think?

It’s usually quiet for a few weeks as everyone disappears off on holiday (Hurst’s in Portugal at the minute) and usually starts to pick up mid-June ahead of returning to training at the start of July.

Would imagine you could essentially sign someone & announce it whenever, but won’t be able to register them until later in the summer.  Not that it makes much difference.


The majority of EFL contracts end at the end of June, although a lot in the national league expire at the end of May.
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I think there's been so much attention on our lack of potency up top, a lot are overlooking our defensive frailties. We'll need to concede a lot less goals if we want to be near the play offs next season and I think Glennon is the defensive weak link at the minute. That being said, if he can improve his speed which is poor for a fullback at this level, it'll probably go a long way.


RE the defence, it would also help massively if we have a preferred formation we stick to and a nailed-on starter in the defensive midfield role to help protect the defence and build an understanding with them - I know El General was experimenting a lot because he had the luxury of doing so towards the end of last season, but I'm really hoping we start next season with a defined formation and style of play, with plan B and C options on the bench for if plan A struggles.

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Quoted from Mariner56
Just spotted this on the ever reliable Wikipedia page but I did see tweets yesterday of a possible incoming so you never know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wilson_(English_footballer)

Edit: I can’t seem to get the link to work properly, but just look up James Wilson Port Vale


This link should work:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wilson_(English_footballer)

At 6ft tall he seems to be the type of forward we need. Let's see if it's true and who his strike partner will be.





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Dont think we'll get any news for at least a couple of weeks whilst Hurst is away on holiday.
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RE the defence, it would also help massively if we have a preferred formation we stick to and a nailed-on starter in the defensive midfield role to help protect the defence and build an understanding with them - I know El General was experimenting a lot because he had the luxury of doing so towards the end of last season, but I'm really hoping we start next season with a defined formation and style of play, with plan B and C options on the bench for if plan A struggles.



I also can't help but think Michee, and particularly Glennon would be better protected, and therefore more emboldened in terms of going forward if they have some genuine wingers in front of them, who they can build relationships with.


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Holiday....or secret scouting mission as he trawls the Portuguese lower leagues?
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Just spotted this on the ever reliable Wikipedia page but I did see tweets yesterday of a possible incoming so you never know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wilson_(English_footballer)

Edit: I can’t seem to get the link to work properly, but just look up James Wilson Port Vale

What are we supposed to be looking at here?
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I also can't help but think Michee, and particularly Glennon would be better protected, and therefore more emboldened in terms of going forward if they have some genuine wingers in front of them, who they can build relationships with.


To be fair our full backs are often pushed well up anyway,hence glennon has so many assists and efete is often the extra man as we push forward and has had the odd goal or chance from that.
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No sure whats going on here...

Tweet 1658732812525096963 will appear here...


John Tondeur seemingly sharing a post to a new signing, then its quickly taken down and questioned.

Like said above its gonna be a long pre-season and wait for an official announcements on signings
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Quoted from Stew0_0
No sure whats going on here...

Tweet 1658732812525096963 will appear here...


John Tondeur seemingly sharing a post to a new signing, then its quickly taken down and questioned.

Like said above its gonna be a long pre-season and wait for an official announcements on signings


Telegraph put a post about Harry 'Grifton' instead of 'Clifton'
So he was taking the....
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He’s a Lincoln lad and I used to play for same team as his dad and pretty common knowledge in Lincoln that he wants to return and play for the Chimps before he retires. Would guess know would be that time if Kennedy wants him and guess we will find out in next few weeks ( unless I bump into hid dad beforehand).


Lad at my gym is a  Lincoln fan, he likes to think he's well connected - I'll be honest, I've no idea at all if he is.  He told me about the Vernam stuff and whilst that move didn't exactly come off he provided insight into the why it didn't happen.  If he is just making stuff then it's a bloody elaborate way of wasting time for chit-chat.

Anyway, he often tells me about stuff that's happening at Sincil Bank and I more often than not just see it as background noise with very little of it interesting me.  

Last week he mentioned Clucas and said that he/his agent have been desperately trying to angle a move to Lincoln but Kennedy isn't particularly keen on it.  He wants a young, energetic and hungry team as opposed to someone looking for a swansong.  If Clucas can't sign for Lincoln he's still keen to move back to the area and his name has been banded about with commutable clubs, which includes Town.

Personally can't see it.  His pedigree is much higher than League Two, regardless of how much he's struggled with injuries whilst at Stoke.  Also don't think he would be someone Hurst would go for either.  Can imagine there's a few clubs as close to Clucas who would fancy taking him too (Notts County, Chesterfield, Mansfield included).

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Although they are ended at the end of June, they can still speak to other clubs 6 weeks before the season ends I believe and if U24 compensation maybe entitled if the offered contact is equal to or more than his existing.

Cant wait to see who we sign.




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Not to do with the playing front, but a mate of mine messaged me and reckons Blackpool considering interviewing Runaway.
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Not to do with the playing front, but a mate of mine messaged me and reckons Blackpool considering interviewing Runaway.


I just hope for their sake that they're not trying to do it behind his back.
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Not to do with the playing front, but a mate of mine messaged me and reckons Blackpool considering interviewing Runaway.


Really lowered their sights after supposedly considering Hurst then.
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Really lowered their sights after supposedly considering Hurst then.


In a group chat yesterday, I had a genuine conversation with someone who claimed Holloway was a better Town manager than Hurst, citing that Holloway never got us relegated and Hurst did.

It really is criminal that that relegation is on Hurst's CV and now Runaway's.


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Really lowered their sights after supposedly considering Hurst then.


2 promotions to the Premier League (Blackpool & Crystal Palace) & 1 promotion to the Championship (Q.P.R.) versus 2 promotions from the National League (both Grimsby) and 2 promotions from the Northern Premier League (Ilkeston & Boston).

If we were looking for a new manager I know which of those CV’s would get us excited.
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Been a few days since I read this post so chose to read through the past 8 pages to see what hot info people were sharing.

And I’ve learnt absolutely flipping nothing
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2 promotions to the Premier League (Blackpool & Crystal Palace) & 1 promotion to the Championship (Q.P.R.) versus 2 promotions from the National League (both Grimsby) and 2 promotions from the Northern Premier League (Ilkeston & Boston).

If we were looking for a new manager I know which of those CV’s would get us excited.


How have they both fared in their latest jobs?
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2 promotions to the Premier League (Blackpool & Crystal Palace) & 1 promotion to the Championship (Q.P.R.) versus 2 promotions from the National League (both Grimsby) and 2 promotions from the Northern Premier League (Ilkeston & Boston).

If we were looking for a new manager I know which of those CV’s would get us excited.


Scraped over the line with a Palace side that was far too good for the championship purely due to Zaha's indivual ability, Blackpool has been really his only success story. He also managed to take Leicester out the championship into the third tier for the first time ever in there history... he left Milwall second bottom of the championship, was sacked by QPR and then whatever you wanna call his tenure here. I'd have Paul every day of the week, say what you like about his managerial ability but at least the bloke won't feed you a load of crap about buying into the club and then try jump in bed with a convicted fraudster, then up and leave 24 hours after saying he wouldn't because he feels the people wanting to take over the club are nothing more than tyrekickers.
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And I’ve learnt absolutely flipping nothing


Standard Fishy then 😂


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How have they both fared in their latest jobs?


Technically…

Hurst: 1 relegation & 1 promotion.
Holloway: 0 relegations & 0 promotions.
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Scraped over the line with a Palace side that was far too good for the championship purely due to Zaha's indivual ability, Blackpool has been really his only success story. He also managed to take Leicester out the championship into the third tier for the first time ever in there history... he left Milwall second bottom of the championship, was sacked by QPR and then whatever you wanna call his tenure here. I'd have Paul every day of the week, say what you like about his managerial ability but at least the bloke won't feed you a load of crap about buying into the club and then try jump in bed with a convicted fraudster, then up and leave 24 hours after saying he wouldn't because he feels the people wanting to take over the club are nothing more than tyrekickers.


If you’re talking about scraping over the line we hold the record for the 2 lowest points totals to ever get promoted out of the National League.

And Holloway scraped over the line by keeping 3 clean sheets in the Play-offs. Or was that just luck?

How you get promoted is irrelevant. All that’s matters is the P in brackets on the league table at the end of the season.
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If you’re talking about scraping over the line we hold the record for the 2 lowest points totals to ever get promoted out of the National League.

And Holloway scraped over the line by keeping 3 clean sheets in the Play-offs. Or was that just luck?

How you get promoted is irrelevant. All that’s matters is the P in brackets on the league table at the end of the season.


So if all that matters is the P on the league table why are you bringing up the points tally we got promoted with? Holloway was a failure at Palace hence why he was moved on very quickly after, he left them bottom of the league btw.. sound familiar?
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So if all that matters is the P on the league table why are you bringing up the points tally we got promoted with? Holloway was a failure at Palace hence why he was moved on very quickly after, he left them bottom of the league btw.. sound familiar?


None of this detracts from my disdain for the bloke, but we were never bottom under Holloway; in fact we were never in the relegation zone under him after the first 3 games that season. We were 20th when he left, and had generally flitted between 16th and 20th for the most part.

Whilst his PPG of 1 was not very good, it was better than Hurst’s even more dismal 0.88. I’ll forever love Paul Hurst for what he’s done for us, but he had over half a season in the job that year and made a right old hash of it.


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None of this detracts from my disdain for the bloke, but we were never bottom under Holloway; in fact we were never in the relegation zone under him after the first 3 games that season. We were 20th when he left, and had generally flitted between 16th and 20th for the most part.

Whilst his PPG of 1 was not very good, it was better than Hurst’s even more dismal 0.88. I’ll forever love Paul Hurst for what he’s done for us, but he had over half a season in the job that year and made a right old hash of it.


Hurst tried to get some good characters in like Stefan Payne who did alright for him at Shrewsbury, but completely let him down here. Our fate was sealed when the referee stood outside the changing room and Deputy Doig opened the door to hand him Stefan Payne.

As a club to sign for, we weren't attractive in the uncertain midst of a takeover with the current owner caught trying to get a fraudster on board, and a member of the incoming consortium getting cold feet 45 minutes before the takeover was due to be announced.

Hurst had to contend with Montel Gibson having a baby shower in a lockdown, Luke Waterfall recovering from being deployed as a ball playing centre half, and James McKeown turning up to work every day being coached by a 37 year old bloke on a 3 year deal who wanted to be our first choice keeper.
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Hurst tried to get some good characters in like Stefan Payne who did alright for him at Shrewsbury, but completely let him down here. Our fate was sealed when the referee stood outside the changing room and Deputy Doig opened the door to hand him Stefan Payne.

As a club to sign for, we weren't attractive in the uncertain midst of a takeover with the current owner caught trying to get a fraudster on board, and a member of the incoming consortium getting cold feet 45 minutes before the takeover was due to be announced.

Hurst had to contend with Montel Gibson having a baby shower in a lockdown, Luke Waterfall recovering from being deployed as a ball playing centre half, and James McKeown turning up to work every day being coached by a 37 year old bloke on a 3 year deal who wanted to be our first choice keeper.


To me, those dark days are there to be remembered. I much prefer to concentrate on the New Grimsby Town born on the 5th of May 2021.



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See apart from running off i think Holloways biggest issue was the lack of funds from the boardroom, given some cash to use for wages i reckon he would have had a much better stamp of player in.

all history now but not one person wasnt excited when the guy came to town, got to put this on Fenty again im afraid.
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None of this detracts from my disdain for the bloke, but we were never bottom under Holloway; in fact we were never in the relegation zone under him after the first 3 games that season. We were 20th when he left, and had generally flitted between 16th and 20th for the most part.

Whilst his PPG of 1 was not very good, it was better than Hurst’s even more dismal 0.88. I’ll forever love Paul Hurst for what he’s done for us, but he had over half a season in the job that year and made a right old hash of it.


Oi! Quoting statistics that point to an unpopular opinion is my job. Back off!

Agree with everything apart from the first few words.

The guy was clearly suffering mental health issues during and after the COVID shut downs. He did his best under the circumstances. If we’re going to blame anyone for what happened during the preseason and first of half of 2020/21 it should go to whoever was responsible for his well-being.

Coupled with the fact he was lazily given total responsibility for all football decisions by Fenty when he was appointed without any interference or even monitoring from above made the situation even worse.
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The stats here don’t show the full picture, our form had dropped off a cliff towards the end of Runnaway’s time.  When Hurst came in he had to contend with a team that’s form was shot, many players who weren’t good enough and that’s not mentioning the training with oval balls!
It was pretty clear that Hurst had an uphill to save us when he came in and for me that relegation is squarely at the doors of Holloway and even more so Fenty.
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We not mentioning the promise and subsequent failure to invest £100k? Or the walking out in a blind panic talking about only wanting to work for a man as noble as John Fenty when the Alex May stuff came to light? Or saying he couldn't work for people who had approached him behind his back? Or signing Virgil Gomis?
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Quoted from monkeyboy
See apart from running off i think Holloways biggest issue was the lack of funds from the boardroom, given some cash to use for wages i reckon he would have had a much better stamp of player in.

all history now but not one person wasnt excited when the guy came to town, got to put this on Fenty again im afraid.


I don’t think that would have been the case - Holloway himself admitted in an interview after he’d left that he just didn’t have the scouting network for the lower leagues at all and he didn’t have knowledge of lower league players at all.

Bar the Burnley loans, his signings were by and large, terrible. Billy Clarke was decent enough as he knew him from Blackpool, Grandin barely kicked a ball and was past it, Gibson, Jackson Jr both absolute gambles from the deep depths of lower leagues same as Spokes. Rose past it. And all the loan players he got from his contacts in the south west not good enough.

Don’t even get me started on Bilel Moshni and the goalkeeper coach who lived in a caravan.

people can talk about ppg all you want but it was an absolute shambles. And he had no idea how to manage a lower league club.


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I agree that Holloway seemed to be suffering from some mental health issues during that season, but I also think he just assumed that the season wouldn't play to a conclusion (I certainly didn't) and so only put in a half-arsed job in preparation. No pre-season preparation to speak of was just begging for disaster and the Covid clauses meant we couldn't sign anybody any good. Trying to see out the season on the cheap and then hope for better the following year, which certainly didn't work.

That said, I think Hurst should still have made a better fist of things after he joined. We signed a load more players, most of whom proved to be just as useless as the squad at the start of the season, even the ones who looked to have a reasonable enough pedigree.

As with most relegation teams, all it would have taken was one or two better performers, but we didn't get them.

I think all is forgiven following the immediate return to the League and we now need to continue the improvements.

I don't expect to read anything interesting in this thread for weeks yet!
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I don’t think that would have been the case - Holloway himself admitted in an interview after he’d left that he just didn’t have the scouting network for the lower leagues at all and he didn’t have knowledge of lower league players at all.

Bar the Burnley loans, his signings were by and large, terrible. Billy Clarke was decent enough as he knew him from Blackpool, Grandin barely kicked a ball and was past it, Gibson, Jackson Jr both absolute gambles from the deep depths of lower leagues same as Spokes. Rose past it. And all the loan players he got from his contacts in the south west not good enough.

Don’t even get me started on Bilel Moshni and the goalkeeper coach who lived in a caravan.

people can talk about ppg all you want but it was an absolute shambles. And he had no idea how to manage a lower league club.


And not forgetting Virgil gomis who looked as if he had won a raffle to play football at any level 🤦🏻‍♂️


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I agree that Holloway seemed to be suffering from some mental health issues during that season, but I also think he just assumed that the season wouldn't play to a conclusion (I certainly didn't) and so only put in a half-arsed job in preparation. No pre-season preparation to speak of was just begging for disaster and the Covid clauses meant we couldn't sign anybody any good. Trying to see out the season on the cheap and then hope for better the following year, which certainly didn't work.

That said, I think Hurst should still have made a better fist of things after he joined. We signed a load more players, most of whom proved to be just as useless as the squad at the start of the season, even the ones who looked to have a reasonable enough pedigree.

As with most relegation teams, all it would have taken was one or two better performers, but we didn't get them.

I think all is forgiven following the immediate return to the League and we now need to continue the improvements.

I don't expect to read anything interesting in this thread for weeks yet!


Very harsh on Hurst. We needed different to what we had, so he signed (as you say) players with reasonable pedigree who were
willing to come here
. When you're clearly looking at a relegation battle the 'better performers' you think he should have signed
are unlikely to come.

What else could he do?
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We not mentioning the promise and subsequent failure to invest £100k? Or the walking out in a blind panic talking about only wanting to work for a man as noble as John Fenty when the Alex May stuff came to light? Or saying he couldn't work for people who had approached him behind his back? Or signing Virgil Gomis?


If he had sold his house near Bath and invested the money it would have only gone to Fenty as £100,000 off his loans.

And when Jason & Andrew bought the club they would have had to stump up an extra £100,000 in shares & £100,000 less in repayments to Fenty.

It as always a bizarre arrangement and it’s probably for the best that Holloway didn’t sell his house.
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I agree that Holloway seemed to be suffering from some mental health issues during that season, but I also think he just assumed that the season wouldn't play to a conclusion (I certainly didn't) and so only put in a half-arsed job in preparation. No pre-season preparation to speak of was just begging for disaster and the Covid clauses meant we couldn't sign anybody any good. Trying to see out the season on the cheap and then hope for better the following year, which certainly didn't work.

That said, I think Hurst should still have made a better fist of things after he joined. We signed a load more players, most of whom proved to be just as useless as the squad at the start of the season, even the ones who looked to have a reasonable enough pedigree.

As with most relegation teams, all it would have taken was one or two better performers, but we didn't get them.

I think all is forgiven following the immediate return to the League and we now need to continue the improvements.

I don't expect to read anything interesting in this thread for weeks yet!


No preseason preparations? That’s an insult to anybody reading who’s ever staged a darts tournament involving a squad the size we had. And it’s very time consuming to visit Timpsons and sort out a trophy.
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To me, those dark days are there to be remembered. I much prefer to concentrate on the New Grimsby Town born on the 5th of May 2021.



Apart from sticking the boot into Holloway. You’re happy enough to go pre-5th May 2021 to do that?
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If he had sold his house near Bath and invested the money it would have only gone to Fenty as £100,000 off his loans.

And when Jason & Andrew bought the club they would have had to stump up an extra £100,000 in shares & £100,000 less in repayments to Fenty.

It as always a bizarre arrangement and it’s probably for the best that Holloway didn’t sell his house.


For what it's worth I agree with you re his mental health during COVID. Some very strange interviews even by his standards. I am however extremely sceptical about the reasons for any willingness to invest and how quickly he disappeared once Alex May was outed and that collapsed.
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Apart from sticking the boot into Holloway. You’re happy enough to go pre-5th May 2021 to do that?


I believe the Holloway comments were started by other forumites. and as The Fishy is about opinions I gave mine.



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I agree that Holloway seemed to be suffering from some mental health issues during that season, but I also think he just assumed that the season wouldn't play to a conclusion (I certainly didn't) and so only put in a half-arsed job in preparation. No pre-season preparation to speak of was just begging for disaster and the Covid clauses meant we couldn't sign anybody any good. Trying to see out the season on the cheap and then hope for better the following year, which certainly didn't work.

That said, I think Hurst should still have made a better fist of things after he joined. We signed a load more players, most of whom proved to be just as useless as the squad at the start of the season, even the ones who looked to have a reasonable enough pedigree.

As with most relegation teams, all it would have taken was one or two better performers, but we didn't get them.

I think all is forgiven following the immediate return to the League and we now need to continue the improvements.

I don't expect to read anything interesting in this thread for weeks yet!



We'll never know what was going on in Holloway's head as I don't think he did, what has been evident across is career is that he has some narcissistic tendencies, this comes across in some of his media work there he often switched the narrative back to himself.

I'm not sure it's worth looking at who was and wasn't to blame in the relegation season as it can't be changed and we've moved into an unrecognisable positive place in a short time since that season.

Ask yourself this though, why did he come to GTFC and want to invest his own money in the club? I think it was down to JSF selling him some magic beans about the golden egg of the mythical new stadium than glory for the club on the pitch. Though that's my personal opinion as they say.



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None of this detracts from my disdain for the bloke, but we were never bottom under Holloway; in fact we were never in the relegation zone under him after the first 3 games that season. We were 20th when he left, and had generally flitted between 16th and 20th for the most part.

Whilst his PPG of 1 was not very good, it was better than Hurst’s even more dismal 0.88. I’ll forever love Paul Hurst for what he’s done for us, but he had over half a season in the job that year and made a right old hash of it.

Those stats don't paint anything near the full picture though. The team Hurst put together ran out of time, the team Holloway put together ran out steam...if they ever had steam, that is. If Hurst didn't have to fix the mess he inherited then we'd have never gone down. We had that run of 7 points from 9 (Bolton, Orient and Cheltenham) under Holloway when we looked decent but after that is was all so so horrifically poor. I completely blame Holloway for everything up until around the start of March as the absolutely batshit woeful job he did caused irreparable damage. It was an impossible task. Hurst at least got two months worth of safe midtable form out of his side once they gelled.
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Those stats don't paint anything near the full picture though. The team Hurst put together ran out of time, the team Holloway put together ran out steam...if they ever had steam, that is. If Hurst didn't have to fix the mess he inherited then we'd have never gone down. We had that run of 7 points from 9 (Bolton, Orient and Cheltenham) under Holloway when we looked decent but after that is was all so so horrifically poor. I completely blame Holloway for everything up until around the start of March as the absolutely batshit woeful job he did caused irreparable damage. It was an impossible task. Hurst at least got two months worth of safe midtable form out of his side once they gelled.


100% agree.

We were in a tailspin when the gobshite jumped ship. The place was rotten from top to bottom. Hurst wasn't just turning round the team he was trying to turn round the entire club during a very difficult period on and off the pitch.


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100% agree.

We were in a tailspin when the gobshite jumped ship. The place was rotten from top to bottom. Hurst wasn't just turning round the team he was trying to turn round the entire club during a very difficult period on and off the pitch.

I'm still bowled over that with the club in that state they managed to lure Hurst back. I guess we have Scunny doing a number on him to thank for that in part. I can't remember if it's ever been discussed in any interviews or anything, but I wonder if him coming back came with the big caveat that Fenty's departure was imminent.
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Appointing Hurst was the first thing JS and AP did when they took over.
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I'm still bowled over that with the club in that state they managed to lure Hurst back. I guess we have Scunny doing a number on him to thank for that in part. I can't remember if it's ever been discussed in any interviews or anything, but I wonder if him coming back came with the big caveat that Fenty's departure was imminent.


Unofficially, Fenty was out of the picture by this point. All of the decision making was being done by 1878 from mid-December onwards. Understandably they don’t want to be associated with the shower that ensued that season, and so it is no coincidence that the takeover was not officially confirmed until after our fate had been sealed.


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I'm still bowled over that with the club in that state they managed to lure Hurst back. I guess we have Scunny doing a number on him to thank for that in part. I can't remember if it's ever been discussed in any interviews or anything, but I wonder if him coming back came with the big caveat that Fenty's departure was imminent.


It also probably reflects how low Hurst's stock was at the time as well. He was coming off the back of a fairly rough patch and the Ipswich situation was relatively high profile.


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I'm still bowled over that with the club in that state they managed to lure Hurst back. I guess we have Scunny doing a number on him to thank for that in part. I can't remember if it's ever been discussed in any interviews or anything, but I wonder if him coming back came with the big caveat that Fenty's departure was imminent.


Takeover was pretty much already agreed but Fenty was still in control of the club, however he allowed JS & AP to have full control of footballing activities and appoint the manager they wanted moving forward.
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Appointing Hurst was the first thing JS and AP did when they took over.

That would be why I don't remember that ever being discussed then!
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Unofficially, Fenty was out of the picture by this point. All of the decision making was being done by 1878 from mid-December onwards. Understandably they don’t want to be associated with the shower that ensued that season, and so it is no coincidence that the takeover was not officially confirmed until after our fate had been sealed.


Shutes was still part of the consortium when the takeover deal was agreed in December 2021. The deal was set to be completed around March, but Shutes decided at the last moment that he couldn’t work with Stockwood & Pettit. The deal then took another 8-9 weeks to complete with just Jason & Andrew.
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Shutes was still part of the consortium when the takeover deal was agreed in December 2021. The deal was set to be completed around March, but Shutes decided at the last moment that he couldn’t work with Stockwood & Pettit. The deal then took another 8-9 weeks to complete with just Jason & Andrew.


Well that's just not true, Shutes stepped back due to personal issues. Nothing to do with the fact he didn't want to work with Jason and Andrew.
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Argument as old as time about who was better that season, Holloway or Hurst.

Ultimate answer is both were in charge during a season that we were relegated.  Hurst was left holding the can when we dropped out and his points per game return was worse, alas football has never been played just on paper.

Let's just remember the shower of excrement that Holloway left for Hurst to pick up.  Holloway's final game in charge of Town was the 2-1 home defeat to Bradford.  We started that game with Ira Jackson Jr and Montel Gibson up front.  In midfield we had Luke Spokes and out wide Kyle Bennett.

Jackson has gone onto play for the mighty Wealdstone and Folkestone Invicta, Gibson has frequented at giants of the non-league scene such as Stourbridge, Ilkeston and Telford whilst Bennett was most recently at Stratford Town following spells at Hednesford and Telford.  Spokes, who I thought was alright and had a little bit about him, is at Bath City.

The game before we also started with Jackson Jr. and Gibson up front, it perhaps tells you just how bad Scunthorpe are that we still managed to grab a 1-0 win in that game.

His third from last game was a defeat at rock bottom Southend United.  A game in which he had Sam Russell in goal for, only for him to let a Greg Halford header squeeze painfully slowly between his legs for them to re-take the lead.    

When Holloway left we had picked up 7 points from his last 12 games.  Hurst only managed 4 points from his first 12 games but the magnitude of the change needed can be highlighted that only four of the starting eleven in his first game could be considered regulars by the end of the season (Waterfall, Hendrie, Hewitt and Pollock - included him even though injured by the end of the season).  

He made plenty of mistakes.  Bringing Waterfall onto defend late on when winning away at Carlisle, needlessly inviting pressure.  Perhaps the reluctance to utilise the creative ability of George Williams when we badly lacked someone to pull the strings, even down to the signing of Stefan Payne which spectacularly backfired.  

But my god that Holloway side was excrement.  Forget the points on the board, it was flipping awful.  They were unfit, lacking structure, lacking confidence and clearly regressing in all three of those areas.  It wasn't a case of Neil Warnock walking into a club with 10 games to go and just giving them a rallying call to gee them up.  We had square bloody balls at the training ground!  A player arguing that he hadn't been released and doing shuttle runs in front of the Pier to prove his point...Some of the players brought into improve us had to come from the National League North (Coke and LJL) or not having had a club for over a year (Lamy and Habergham).

Put it this way.  If you had the best side that Holloway mustered that year and had it for the whole season, it still goes down in my eyes.  If you put the side that Hurst eventually got towards then it comfortably stays up.  It doesn't pull up any trees and it badly lacks a proper goalscorer, but it has more than enough to be safe.  
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Unofficially, Fenty was out of the picture by this point. All of the decision making was being done by 1878 from mid-December onwards. Understandably they don’t want to be associated with the shower that ensued that season, and so it is no coincidence that the takeover was not officially confirmed until after our fate had been sealed.


Quoted from LocalLadGTFC


Takeover was pretty much already agreed but Fenty was still in control of the club, however he allowed JS & AP to have full control of footballing activities and appoint the manager they wanted moving forward.


Cheers, didn't see these replies before. I quite often joke about my memory being shot, but if I'm forgetting quite important Town milestones like this I'm really screwed, this isn't just my missus' mum's birthday or something.
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Well that's just not true, Shutes stepped back due to personal issues. Nothing to do with the fact he didn't want to work with Jason and Andrew.


Yeah…

And when a football club releases a statement saying the manager has “left by mutual consent” it’s definitely not that he’s actually been sacked.
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What the fuc has this to do with fking Transfers and twtatin Rumours?!!  Ffs!

When I see new fckin posts on the thread I think it might be about possible new signings, obvioulsy fckin not!

**Swear words added for effect!
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What the fuc has this to do with fking Transfers and twtatin Rumours?!!  Ffs!

When I see new fckin posts on the thread I think it might be about possible new signings, obvioulsy fckin not!

**Swear words added for effect!


Look careful at the title of this thread…

Rumour/Transfer

Where does it stipulate that the rumour has to be related directly to a transfer? It doesn’t.
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Can someone please explain the link between fenty/Holloway and this summers possible transfers/rumours!?


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What the fuc has this to do with fking Transfers and twtatin Rumours?!!  Ffs!

When I see new fckin posts on the thread I think it might be about possible new signings, obvioulsy fckin not!

**Swear words added for effect!


This is Paul Hurst we’re talking about


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Can someone please explain the link between fenty/Holloway and this summers possible transfers/rumours!?


Look, I don't want to give you any spoilers in case you go back and watch Season 1 of the Ska Face Transfer saga.  But it was about 9000 pages long and probably only three of the posts related to transfers, even then I think they were glossed over quite quickly.  I don't think this has quite got Prison Break vibes that we're breaking back into the big house, but there is something of a feeling of deja vu*.

We're a couple of weeks after the last game so we can't slag McAtee/Taylor/Efete off anymore.  It's difficult to moan about a lack of seats because even I'm not sad enough to go and actually watch a tractor put new drainage into the pitch.  The released list didn't give us much to grumble about because we all agreed with it.  It's only Scunny who are providing us with some mild interest until Hurst gets back of his holidays and gets to work/The Ashes kicks off.

Probably not worth looking at this thread until mid-June at best if you actually want some serious transfer talk, by then it'll take most of the morning to load up all the pages in one go.  


*a handful of blokes talking shite.
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We’re all just waiting for the first  new version of David Burys scoreflash:

***incoming***


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Let's see how many of the proposed "targets" suggested on here from thread pages 1 to 47 are snapped up before the manager returns from his hols

Just to return almost on track -

I see, without suggesting any rumour, that Ben Killip is definitely leaving Hartlepool and Jake Eastwood has also been released.

Would either be a challenger for the vacant goalkeeping position?
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I see, without suggesting any rumour, that Ben Killip is definitely leaving Hartlepool and Jake Eastwood has also been released.

Would either be a challenger for the vacant goalkeeping position?


I doubt Killip would want to come and play second fiddle having been a first choice keeper last season. He would want to be No 1.

Eastwood might be an option but im sure, as well as for Killip, there will be many teams looking for a keeper for next season.

Itll all depend on how generous the club are with the offer of wages.
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Let's see how many of the proposed "targets" suggested on here from thread pages 1 to 47 are snapped up before the manager returns from his hols

Just to return almost on track -

I see, without suggesting any rumour, that Ben Killip is definitely leaving Hartlepool and Jake Eastwood has also been released.

Would either be a challenger for the vacant goalkeeping position?


Hartlepool fans don't seem to rate Killip and are glad he's gone so I would not be interested signing relegation fodder, it is not the way forward for me .

I wonder when arr Paul will make his first signing  , and if it will be one that 'ticks is boxes'?

Nothing really going on with us apart from the grass machine at BP is there ,  so my eyes are firmly fixed on our neighbours fine attempts to re- create the real life version of 'Dream Team ' from back in the day .
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Look careful at the title of this thread…

Rumour/Transfer

Where does it stipulate that the rumour has to be related directly to a transfer? It doesn’t.


Look carefully at the two words below.

Patronising tosser!

Where does it stipulate that the two words relate directly to you? It doesn't.
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I wonder when arr Paul will make his first signing  , and if it will be one that 'ticks is boxes'?

As we all know, the correct unit of time used to determine when PH makes his signings in a window is page number in the Ska Face thread, I'm gonna go with page 91. What's everyone else saying? I'll give 10 Gold Stars to the person who gets closest.
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Killip and Eastwood are goalkeepers from relegated sides.  Killip has had mixed reviews from 'Pools fans this season and Eastwood was pretty much written off by Rochdale fans as a disaster.

Had we not seen them in a Town shirt I doubt there would be any remote interest in them.  Killip didn't have the best of times here, personally think he was a bit unlucky, whereas I really rated Eastwood and thought he was key in getting a bit of confidence back in the side, especially in defence.

But to be honest I think we need to do better than both.  If we're looking at continuous improvement then it has to be someone who is better than Crocombe, or at the very least pushes Crocombe to be better.  The last six months of the season Crocombe wasn't a goalkeeper you would associate with a top League Two side.

I'm looking to see that Mildenhall type impact; new 'keeper comes in and it's like 'WOW!'.  Whole defence steps up 10 yards, instant command of everything.  
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As we all know, the correct unit of time used to determine when PH makes his signings in a window is page number in the Ska Face thread, I'm gonna go with page 91. What's everyone else saying? I'll give 10 Gold Stars to the person who gets closest.


Wasn't it 100 pages per signing last time?  I'll go higher, 103 pps

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Look, I don't want to give you any spoilers in case you go back and watch Season 1 of the Ska Face Transfer saga.  But it was about 9000 pages long and probably only three of the posts related to transfers, even then I think they were glossed over quite quickly.  I don't think this has quite got Prison Break vibes that we're breaking back into the big house, but there is something of a feeling of deja vu*.

We're a couple of weeks after the last game so we can't slag McAtee/Taylor/Efete off anymore.  It's difficult to moan about a lack of seats because even I'm not sad enough to go and actually watch a tractor put new drainage into the pitch.  The released list didn't give us much to grumble about because we all agreed with it.  It's only Scunny who are providing us with some mild interest until Hurst gets back of his holidays and gets to work/The Ashes kicks off.

Probably not worth looking at this thread until mid-June at best if you actually want some serious transfer talk, by then it'll take most of the morning to load up all the pages in one go.  


*a handful of blokes talking shite.


I feel like this is aimed at me.......but honestly twitter clips just don't do it justice!  They were laying the sand layer down yesterday!
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Wasn't it 100 pages per signing last time?  I'll go higher, 103 pps


I think the Jan window was like 200 pages before our first loan signing wasn't it?! Or have I misremembered that? I'm being optimistic here though and hoping that we get something done early.
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I think the Jan window was like 200 pages before our first loan signing wasn't it?! Or have I misremembered that? I'm being optimistic here though and hoping that we get something done early.


You could be right, I think it ended up as 300 pages for 4 signings maybe...

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I feel like this is aimed at me.......but honestly twitter clips just don't do it justice!  They were laying the sand layer down yesterday!


Ah, no.  I'm engrossed by the Twitter clips!

Wasn't a dig or aimed at anyone, was just a point that there's nothing to moan/talk about.  
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Hopefully the page does end in 9 ideally 69
And then Filipe Nochee (where did he go?)
Can do nnnnninnnneee or whatever it was
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The summer is rather different to the winter transfer window, so I'd expect a lower PPS rating, though it will probably take quite a few pages to get the ball running, given that most of the footballers we are likely to sign will still be under contract and/or on holiday.
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Page 89 first signing confirmation


Pacing about 4 pages a day currently; that would take us to 29th May in 10 days time. We shall see.


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page 128 will be our forst signing on 26th june
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The summer is rather different to the winter transfer window, so I'd expect a lower PPS rating, though it will probably take quite a few pages to get the ball running, given that most of the footballers we are likely to sign will still be under contract and/or on holiday.


Ah, but with less football to talk about will the, ahem, procrastinating, be more concentrated into one thread?
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Argument as old as time about who was better that season, Holloway or Hurst.

Ultimate answer is both were in charge during a season that we were relegated.  Hurst was left holding the can when we dropped out and his points per game return was worse, alas football has never been played just on paper.

Let's just remember the shower of excrement that Holloway left for Hurst to pick up.  Holloway's final game in charge of Town was the 2-1 home defeat to Bradford.  We started that game with Ira Jackson Jr and Montel Gibson up front.  In midfield we had Luke Spokes and out wide Kyle Bennett.

Jackson has gone onto play for the mighty Wealdstone and Folkestone Invicta, Gibson has frequented at giants of the non-league scene such as Stourbridge, Ilkeston and Telford whilst Bennett was most recently at Stratford Town following spells at Hednesford and Telford.  Spokes, who I thought was alright and had a little bit about him, is at Bath City.

The game before we also started with Jackson Jr. and Gibson up front, it perhaps tells you just how bad Scunthorpe are that we still managed to grab a 1-0 win in that game.

His third from last game was a defeat at rock bottom Southend United.  A game in which he had Sam Russell in goal for, only for him to let a Greg Halford header squeeze painfully slowly between his legs for them to re-take the lead.    

When Holloway left we had picked up 7 points from his last 12 games.  Hurst only managed 4 points from his first 12 games but the magnitude of the change needed can be highlighted that only four of the starting eleven in his first game could be considered regulars by the end of the season (Waterfall, Hendrie, Hewitt and Pollock - included him even though injured by the end of the season).  

He made plenty of mistakes.  Bringing Waterfall onto defend late on when winning away at Carlisle, needlessly inviting pressure.  Perhaps the reluctance to utilise the creative ability of George Williams when we badly lacked someone to pull the strings, even down to the signing of Stefan Payne which spectacularly backfired.  

But my god that Holloway side was excrement.  Forget the points on the board, it was flipping awful.  They were unfit, lacking structure, lacking confidence and clearly regressing in all three of those areas.  It wasn't a case of Neil Warnock walking into a club with 10 games to go and just giving them a rallying call to gee them up.  We had square bloody balls at the training ground!  A player arguing that he hadn't been released and doing shuttle runs in front of the Pier to prove his point...Some of the players brought into improve us had to come from the National League North (Coke and LJL) or not having had a club for over a year (Lamy and Habergham).

Put it this way.  If you had the best side that Holloway mustered that year and had it for the whole season, it still goes down in my eyes.  If you put the side that Hurst eventually got towards then it comfortably stays up.  It doesn't pull up any trees and it badly lacks a proper goalscorer, but it has more than enough to be safe.  


George WIlliams!! Was trying to think of him the other week - Sorry bit of a random contribution
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The Graham Hockless of his day, got better and better the less he played.

The lad had something about him, no doubting that.  Mansfield away he had the game between his teeth when he came on as a sub, set the first equaliser up and then grabbed a last minute goal to make it 2-2.  Seem to think he went close to grabbing the winner as well in injury time.  

Summed Hurst's view up of him in that he was an unused sub in the next game, got a whole 17 minutes a few games later against Walsall and then, in his final appearance for us, was the one hooked at half-time to accommodate a rejig thanks to Stefan Payne being a twit.

Did sod all at Barrow although it looks like he had a broken collarbone which will stop anyone in their tracks.   Very uneventful at Borehamwood and then equally non-existent in the Conference South with Hemel Hempstead (after a brace on debut), which suggests Hurst probably called this one right.
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As we all know, the correct unit of time used to determine when PH makes his signings in a window is page number in the Ska Face thread, I'm gonna go with page 91. What's everyone else saying? I'll give 10 Gold Stars to the person who gets closest.


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His third from last game was a defeat at rock bottom Southend United.  A game in which he had Sam Russell in goal for, only for him to let a Greg Halford header squeeze painfully slowly between his legs for them to re-take the lead.    

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That was another comedy chapter in Holloway’s 20/21 stint. Said we were looking at Halford but he’d failed his mega fitness test so we passed, Halford apparently didn’t know what Holloway was on about, signed for Southend on the Thursday and scored the deciding goal against us the next day.
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Tyler Smith & Billy Chadwick released by Hull.

Crank up the rumour mill!
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Tyler Smith & Billy Chadwick released by Hull.

Crank up the rumour mill!


Tyler Walker needs to resurrect his career after a cruciate ligament injury. Won’t get in the Cov side.

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That was another comedy chapter in Holloway’s 20/21 stint. Said we were looking at Halford but he’d failed his mega fitness test so we passed, Halford apparently didn’t know what Holloway was on about, signed for Southend on the Thursday and scored the deciding goal against us the next day.


A game which saw the only GTFC league appearance for this bloke:



JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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I didn’t mind too much the Jackson Jr, Gibson, Sissay signings. Just not all at the same time as your strike force. Think you always have to look and see if there’s players lower down worth taking a punt but again, not all at bloody once!


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The Graham Hockless of his day, got better and better the less he played.

The lad had something about him, no doubting that.  Mansfield away he had the game between his teeth when he came on as a sub, set the first equaliser up and then grabbed a last minute goal to make it 2-2.  Seem to think he went close to grabbing the winner as well in injury time.  

Summed Hurst's view up of him in that he was an unused sub in the next game, got a whole 17 minutes a few games later against Walsall and then, in his final appearance for us, was the one hooked at half-time to accommodate a rejig thanks to Stefan Payne being a twit.

Did sod all at Barrow although it looks like he had a broken collarbone which will stop anyone in their tracks.   Very uneventful at Borehamwood and then equally non-existent in the Conference South with Hemel Hempstead (after a brace on debut), which suggests Hurst probably called this one right.


Aye, he was pretty excrement at league 2 level, the fact he has dropped two more levels and still seems to be shite is quite impressive.
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Rumour in Cambridge - Town in for Ironside.
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I'm looking forward to Transfer Tuesday and moving forward to Transfer Thursday. TBH, any day will do but some news out of BP soon would be appreciated.


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I'm looking forward to Transfer Tuesday and moving forward to Transfer Thursday. TBH, any day will do but some news out of BP soon would be appreciated.


This time last year we hadn’t even started our play-off campaign. We’ve got all the time in the world, relatively speaking.


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This time last year we hadn’t even started our play-off campaign. We’ve got all the time in the world, relatively speaking.


An early signing or 2 would certainly help ST sales though.



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An early signing or 2 would certainly help ST sales though.



At what point though do you want ST sales to stop, given match day tickets earn more if they can be consistently sold week in week out?
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Wouldn’t be against this


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At what point though do you want ST sales to stop, given match day tickets earn more if they can be consistently sold week in week out?


I don't want season ticket sales to drop as this helps the club's cash flow. Match day tickets do earn the club more money, as you say, but you have to get bums on seats. If the team is going through a bad spell on the pitch, then Match Day sales will likely be down, whereas ST's money is in the bank.



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Rumour in Cambridge - Town in for Ironside.

Yep, saw this as well. Apparently it's come from a Cambridge fan who usually gets things right. Think he'd be a really good signing for us, Ironside. Did a lot of Mullin's dirty work the season they went up. A combo of him, someone in the crafty tenacious mould like Waters, McAtee or Lloyd and an out and out goalscorer would be a great balance of first choice forwards.
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I don't want season ticket sales to drop as this helps the club's cash flow. Match day tickets do earn the club more money, as you say, but you have to get bums on seats. If the team is going through a bad spell on the pitch, then Match Day sales will likely be down, whereas ST's money is in the bank.



With the cup money I don’t think we’d have an issue with cash flow, even if we did I don’t think it’d be something that would cause Jason and Andrew much of a headache in terms of managing the budgets.

There’s an arguement, which I subscribe too, that less season tickets would probably be a good thing. I genuinely don’t think attendances will decrease which is the key thing. However less ST means we get abit more cash per seat and there’s more opportunity for those of us that don’t live at home to get tickets on an informal basis - issue we have are many ST holders that don’t go all the time and don’t release the seats. That’s causing some issues.


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I’m not convinced people would buy a season ticket on the signing of a couple of players at our level.


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Rumour in Cambridge - Town in for Ironside.


This is f*cking typical of Hurst. The bloke must be 90, he was fat to start off with and he's in a f*cking wheelchair!!!

We'll be after Miss Marple next.

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Is this the Ironside we had on trial a few years back, maybe 2014/15? Ended up at Alfreton.


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Is this the Ironside we had on trial a few years back, maybe 2014/15? Ended up at Alfreton.


Yes
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Yes


A lesson about how players can develop and become good players, just cause they don’t immediately impress doesn’t mean they won’t do..


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Is this the Ironside we had on trial a few years back, maybe 2014/15? Ended up at Alfreton.


Nathan Arnold had a trial with us in 2009, he didn't do too badly when he signed a few years later...
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Yep, saw this as well. Apparently it's come from a Cambridge fan who usually gets things right. Think he'd be a really good signing for us, Ironside. Did a lot of Mullin's dirty work the season they went up. A combo of him, someone in the crafty tenacious mould like Waters, McAtee or Lloyd and an out and out goalscorer would be a great balance of first choice forwards.


I hope he’s right - I called Ironside back in January. Will catapult me right to the top of the standings with an unassailable lead.

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I hope he’s right - I called Ironside back in January. Will catapult me right to the top of the standings with an unassailable lead.

Sorry, I don’t make the rules!


I called Emmanuel but it didn’t help my cause 😂😂


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Yes


I did wonder, if I recall correctly he made an appearance in a friendly at BP, no idea against who. Seems to have had a decent career since.


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I seem to recall he played a couple of pre-season games and looked like an honest trier, but nothing more, so I wasn't too bothered we didn't sign him. He must have developed somewhat since then and I think he's certainly scored against us at some point?
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I can remember Ironside and to be honest he was absolute turd on trial.

Looked like Bambi on ice, but it absolutely proves the points above because I've always thought he's looked decent every time I've seen him since.

Hurst rated him at the time but had to make the choice, I presume due to budgets, between him and another trialist at the time. In the end he went for the latter, a certain Craig Clay.

I would be very happy with Ironside, sort of that Taylor type who does the graft and takes the brunt but younger and probably less injury prone. Of course it all depends who you play round him.

On the point of season tickets, can't agree that there's any merit in the club selling less season tickets. It's set income, in the bank at the beginning of the season. Whilst there's demand now, we could have a dogshit start and that'll tail off big time.  Pretty sure we've got people at the club capable of managing cash flow over the course of a seeaon too.

What we want is record season ticket sales (again) and a solid system that gets unused seats resold.  Ideally the ability to get extra capacity in the corners too.

I'm always a believer in using your signings to boost ticket sales. But with over 1000 shifted (with 500+ new ones) and we've got a monthly payday coming up shortly for a lot of people, not so sure it'll be needed.
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Sure the league require a certain percentage of tickets to be available on a match-by-match basis too, which is why Lincoln cap their ST sales at about 7k. Not that I can see it being an issue, but if we’re effectively doing nothing to address the issue, might as well just sell as many as we can.
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Not sure the perception that Ironside could play the Taylor or ‘big man’ role is quite right. He’s 5’ 11”. That’s not tall.


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Quoted from chaos33
Not sure the perception that Ironside could play the Taylor or ‘big man’ role is quite right. He’s 5’ 11”. That’s not tall.


It is if you are 5ft 3


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George Lloyd wins his fair share of headers and he is nowhere near 6 feet tall !!
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I hope he’s right - I called Ironside back in January. Will catapult me right to the top of the standings with an unassailable lead.

Sorry, I don’t make the rules!


Haha yep, a superb call if it comes off to be fair!

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Not sure the perception that Ironside could play the Taylor or ‘big man’ role is quite right. He’s 5’ 11”. That’s not tall.

Taken from the Cambridge OS...

When it comes to footballing descriptions, ‘battering ram’ is the quintessential adjective for Joe’s style of play. Whilst he’s yet to conclude a season as United’s top scorer since joining from Macclesfield Town in 2020, there’s so much more to his name – with his astute hold-up play and dirty work pivotal to their successes.
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see Andy Cook end up at Wrexham now. Palmer seems to have shot his bolt & he’d be a good fit there.
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Quoted from chaos33
Not sure the perception that Ironside could play the Taylor or ‘big man’ role is quite right. He’s 5’ 11”. That’s not tall.


Same height as LJL then, who for my money is the best physical frontman we've had in a decade or so.

I don't think Taylor's effectiveness is because of his height, in fact I'd say he's quite average in the air, doesn't win that many of his aerial battles and when challenging often gives away free-kicks. For me, he's at his best when he gets his body between man and ball to link bits together and bring others into play.

From what I've seen of Ironside, albeit far less frequently, his approach is a bit more physical than cute but definitely not just a unit to lump it up to.

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Same height as LJL then, who for my money is the best physical frontman we've had in a decade or so.

I don't think Taylor's effectiveness is because of his height, in fact I'd say he's quite average in the air, doesn't win that many of his aerial battles and when challenging often gives away free-kicks. For me, he's at his best when he gets his body between man and ball to link bits together and bring others into play.

From what I've seen of Ironside, albeit far less frequently, his approach is a bit more physical than cute but definitely not just a unit to lump it up to.


Yep agree on Taylor, his best moments were generally when he was unchallenged and he had a split second longer to work with the ball.
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Some chap on twitter who is pretty level headed has suggested:
Ryan Schofield GK
Joe Walsh CB
Rob Apter Winger
Andy Dallas
Billy Chadwick

I know it’s random names in a hat but I’d take that!
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Eisa good ? 😁
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Eisa good ? 😁


Heard his brother Ebenezer is


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Eisa


Like Sunday morning?


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Be interesting to hear when the veggies released players will be announced.


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Could be a good investment......
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Which one?
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Everyone knows the Vernam interest and im sure that’ll be done this summer

PH Very keen to bring Andy Smith back, initial discussion about that but no movement any time soon, suspect Hull will leave this one up to Smudge.

Wouldnt expect to see Harry leave this summer either despite a couple of approaches from clubs
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Billy Chadwick is not someone we are in for at this time, shame bcos I think he could do well for us still very young and scores goals


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Quoted from Hagrid

Everyone knows the Vernam interest and im sure that’ll be done this summer

PH Very keen to bring Andy Smith back, initial discussion about that but no movement any time soon, suspect Hull will leave this one up to Smudge.

Wouldnt expect to see Harry leave this summer either despite a couple of approaches from clubs


Would be great to have Smith back but suspect he’ll fancy testing himself one step higher. Hope I’m wrong though!


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Would be great to have Smith back but suspect he’ll fancy testing himself one step higher. Hope I’m wrong though!


Heard this earlier in the season but thought he drew a line under it with a RH interview, could be wrong though.

One thing in our favour though is he’s a pretty established squad member here, if he left Hull full time it’s be a great first move as he can pick up where he left off and at a much higher base level than going into a L1 club. As well as that he’s local so no move required.

He goes higher up, it could pay off or he could end up back in L2 on loan. Sometimes the best move isn’t always the biggest/higher level one especially when you’re young.


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Quoted from Hagrid

Everyone knows the Vernam interest and im sure that’ll be done this summer

PH Very keen to bring Andy Smith back, initial discussion about that but no movement any time soon, suspect Hull will leave this one up to Smudge.

Wouldnt expect to see Harry leave this summer either despite a couple of approaches from clubs


I'd be very surprised to see smith back based on his interview response when asked the question.

Is one of those approaches from Sheffield Wednesday as per the rumours? If so i wonder if, were they to go up, they would still be interested or not?
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Think smith will be playing league 1 football next year & if not reckon doncaster be in for him grant mccann rated him highly when manager of hull
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Last summer Smith didn't impress when he got his chance to tour with the first team in Turkey, that put the brakes firmly on any step-up into their first team fold.  In fact he was quickly demoted back to the development squad, soon followed by a loan move here.  

Since then they've changed managers but they've now got ambitions to challenge at the top end of the Championship, unless he's a player Rosenior really has a fancy for I can't imagine he's going to get any first team football there in the immediate future.

I think he'll leave Hull, it's just a question of to where.  I'm not convinced we're out the running for him at all.
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I’d be surprised to see Smith back, but the way people were going on about his interview you’d think he’d said he’d have to be dragged back here by wild horses under punishment of death. I don’t think he was as negative about the idea as some seem to think.
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I would love our first signing to be Lloyd, I think with a more traditional ST ahead of him he would be a good McAtee replacement (albeit different)

I’d love us to be back in for Smith, as between him, Waterfall and Maher (plus Efete as stand in) we have depth in CB
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I would love our first signing to be Lloyd, I think with a more traditional ST ahead of him he would be a good McAtee replacement (albeit different)

I’d love us to be back in for Smith, as between him, Waterfall and Maher (plus Efete as stand in) we have depth in CB


Wouldnt be adverse to see Lloyd sign although I think his main attributes which made him popular was his application and willing to put himself about.
I would hope though that our first signing would show our intent for the season to come. Smith agreed but unlikely.
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I hope we sign Lloyd but also at least one more striker as well. I don't think the first player that signs will be out "biggest" addition as better players who are available tend to have more options and don't need to jump straight in.


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Wouldnt be adverse to see Lloyd sign although I think his main attributes which made him popular was his application and willing to put himself about.
I would hope though that our first signing would show our intent for the season to come. Smith agreed but unlikely.


Hence, our first signing will be a right-back...

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Is Ryan Bennett still an option -?

We are light at CB now .

I thought it was all but done last summer,anyone any idea what happened there ?
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We didn't need him (4 Centre Backs in the building, 3 of whom were putting down serious claims for a starting place each week).   Difficult for Hurst to justify the outlay on another defender when the money arguably could be used better elsewhere.

This summer could be a different story.  Down from 4 to 2, definitely room for at least one more and I half expect Waterfall to gradually take a step back from the first team next season.
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We didn't need him (4 Centre Backs in the building, 3 of whom were putting down serious claims for a starting place each week).   Difficult for Hurst to justify the outlay on another defender when the money arguably could be used better elsewhere.

This summer could be a different story.  Down from 4 to 2, definitely room for at least one more and I half expect Waterfall to gradually take a step back from the first team next season.


I don't think it would have been difficult in the slightest for Hurst to justify the outlay on getting Ryan back here, he would have strengthened our back line and would have been a nailed on starter; he was a regular in the league above, He would most likely have helped us higer up the table, too, as we'd probably not have conceeded as many shite goals as we did.
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We need Smith to sign if not Ryan does, not sure if we need both.

I would be happy with either.


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Quoted from diehardmariner
We didn't need him (4 Centre Backs in the building, 3 of whom were putting down serious claims for a starting place each week).   Difficult for Hurst to justify the outlay on another defender when the money arguably could be used better elsewhere.

This summer could be a different story.  Down from 4 to 2, definitely room for at least one more and I half expect Waterfall to gradually take a step back from the first team next season.


Clearly we need two CB's, I'd prefer both of them to be in their prime or approaching that stage rather than on the back end of their career.


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No matter who is signed, I am hoping for a more established first eleven. I don`t believe the road to success goes down the route of chopping and changing the team every week.
There is a clear value in players knowing each other well by playing in league games with each other, week in, week out. You gain something that reserve games or training sessions can`t give you in the same way.
So anyone signed will hopefully be one or the other - a signing for the 11 or a good man to step in from the bench.


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Clearly we need two CB's, I'd prefer both of them to be in their prime or approaching that stage rather than on the back end of their career.


A young pup like Paul Futcher?
If we could get two or three season out of RB to anything like the standard Futch achieved then I’d snatch your hand off.


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We didn't need him (4 Centre Backs in the building, 3 of whom were putting down serious claims for a starting place each week).   Difficult for Hurst to justify the outlay on another defender when the money arguably could be used better elsewhere.

This summer could be a different story.  Down from 4 to 2, definitely room for at least one more and I half expect Waterfall to gradually take a step back from the first team next season.


Why?  No doubt in my mind he was our best defender, if not our best player last season.

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If we don't manage to get Smith back, we need a CB with some pace. Waterfall & Maher together are a bit too similiar in style and pace for me.
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Haughton staying at fylde and Chadwick isn't signing for us but going to a club in our league


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Haughton staying at fylde and Chadwick isn't signing for us but going to a club in our league

Donny for Chadwick under McCann you'd have thought.
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Would be good to see a season where we’re not encumbered by at least one chronic.

Going back a few years now we’ve had the likes of Scannell, Taylor, Max Wright, Cropper, George Williams, Jon Welsh, Jamey Osborne, Akwasi Asante and others all on a decent wedge but out for loooong periods.

Suppose that’s the nature of the game at this level, and some injuries can’t be helped, but Hurst’s had his fingers burned a few times now so would be interested to see if he goes for a smaller, younger squad with a bit more quality/reliability.
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Donny for Chadwick under McCann you'd have thought.


Been told 2 clubs in our league want to sign him but it's not donny


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I’m expecting us to sign Cameron Wilson from Scunny. He’s turned down a new contract apparently.
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A young pup like Paul Futcher?
If we could get two or three season out of RB to anything like the standard Futch achieved then I’d snatch your hand off.


Don’t disagree, but it doesn’t necessarily have to be Bennet though, if he doesn’t stay at Cambridge and doesn’t sign for us no doubt people will use it as a stick to beat PH with when we lose a game.


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I had high hopes for Haughton and Chadwick incoming - I wonder if either of those had been in conversation, as mentioned by PH towards the end of the season.
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I'm told it's happening, so we will have ample time to find out/comment next season



forza ivano - please give your source battering!

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I had high hopes for Haughton and Chadwick incoming - I wonder if either of those had been in conversation, as mentioned by PH towards the end of the season.


Is it a loss? One of them is nearly 29 and hasn't played in the football league for 7 years with the majority of that being in the NLN and the other one has struggled with injuries and also has no history showing capable of playing in the FL. I'd like to think  we're aiming at better than both of these.
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forza ivano - please give your source battering!



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A Scunthorpe like start for me  


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I reckon now that the Head of Recruitment Analyst has had time to do his research far and wide, i reckon we will get several good up and comings who would otherwise slip under the radar. Possibly ex-Premier League Academy players or the like.
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I reckon now that the Head of Recruitment Analyst has had time to do his research far and wide, i reckon we will get several good up and comings who would otherwise slip under the radar. Possibly ex-Premier League Academy players or the like.
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There's no way any sensible football league club are seriously interested in Haughton anyway. His record at NLN level is great but he's already had a crack at the league and didn't make it. He's also 28 so it's not like he's a young lad who's going to improve a lot.


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Have we signed Ronaldo?

Just going on how many are on "The Fishy" at the moment.


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Have we signed Ronaldo?

Just going on how many are on "The Fishy" at the moment.


What’s going on? There must be the best part of 1,000 people on this site at the moment. Perhaps we’re signing Messi too!! 🤣🤣🤣
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What’s going on? There must be the best part of 1,000 people on this site at the moment. Perhaps we’re signing Messi too!! 🤣🤣🤣


Still all on at 5.30 am. I think the Arabs want a piece of BP action and are talking take over plans with AS & JP, or Poojah's post on tractors is drawing more attention than thought.



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Still all on at 5.30 am. I think the Arabs want a piece of BP action and are talking take over plans with AS & JP, or Poojah's post on tractors is drawing more attention than thought.


I strongly suspect a computer system glitch.
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Have we signed Ronaldo?

Just going on how many are on "The Fishy" at the moment.

Na   his legs have gone  
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6.30am and it says around 1k (600 being guests) people sure are loving this tractor watch.
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I don't think it would have been difficult in the slightest for Hurst to justify the outlay on getting Ryan back here, he would have strengthened our back line and would have been a nailed on starter; he was a regular in the league above, He would most likely have helped us higer up the table, too, as we'd probably not have conceeded as many shite goals as we did.


In his own mind I meant.  Hurst notoriously spends the clubs money like it's his own.  Personally I'd have brought Bennett in, the opportunity was there to improve and I believe we should have done so.  That said, I'm not privvy to the dynamics in the dressing room etc.
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Why?  No doubt in my mind he was our best defender, if not our best player last season.



Just a feeling.  We still had a quite poor defensive record last season, joint 9th worst I think.  Not saying that's on Waterfall, but I think Hurst will look to upgrade in all areas and defence shouldn't be exempt from that.
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Andrew Dallas' loan ends at Chesterfield and sent back to Solihull, where I think his contract is expiring.

Odds on Hurst going back in for him and Dallas having his tail between his legs?  Wouldn't surprise me if Hurst does go back in for him but having improved his stock somewhat, can't see Dallas changing his mind on us.  
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Andrew Dallas' loan ends at Chesterfield and sent back to Solihull, where I think his contract is expiring.

Odds on Hurst going back in for him and Dallas having his tail between his legs?  Wouldn't surprise me if Hurst does go back in for him but having improved his stock somewhat, can't see Dallas changing his mind on us.  


I personally think Hurst remembers when people turn us down. He seemed very irritated (might not be the right word) at the fans forum when he said Andrew Dallas didn't want to come to Grimsby. Almost like he was offended, which was actually quite nice to see. He's been here a while and obviously holds the club in good regard..


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I dunno, I think he's human in that he'll have had his nose put out of joint by the snub but he's also persistent as hell.  I can almost imagine it's like a challenge to him to get it over the line.
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What’s going on with Tshimanga? Peterborough fans were not keen on him at all, think he was only there on a loan with a view to a permanent but not sure if they’ll bother following that through now.
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What’s going on with Tshimanga? Peterborough fans were not keen on him at all, think he was only there on a loan with a view to a permanent but not sure if they’ll bother following that through now.


It was an obligation to buy so they have to go through with it. If they don't fancy him i'd suggest they may want to move him on quite quickly and recoup some money, if he sits on the bench or in the stands all season his value of course goes down and less chance of making it back.


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We will never know, but I would be disappointed for us not to go in for Andrew Dallas again, despite him turning us down.

I appreciate Hurst may be pee'd off that he said no, but there are a number of different factors why a player does.
Some probably selfish (ie assume he knows he could be better off financially at the end of the season) but Hurst should not cut off his nose to spite his face.
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Am I the only one not arsed about Dallas? Seen him plenty of times and I've seen nothing to suggest he's anything other than a decent National League forward. Misses sitters and drifts out of matches for long periods whenever I've seen him.
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Am I the only one not arsed about Dallas? Seen him plenty of times and I've seen nothing to suggest he's anything other than a decent National League forward. Misses sitters and drifts out of matches for long periods whenever I've seen him.


There’s a decent player there without doubt. If hurst goes in for him again, assuming we were before, I wouldn’t complain. But, unless am getting confused, I thought sbarra was a better player.


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Wasn't the thought that Dallas would be heading up to Scotland at the end of the season?

He did OK at Chesterfield, but his record there flatters him a bit as he scored a hat-trick against Torquay (who were rubbish and got relegated) plus a brace against the already-relegated Maidstone.

I'd imagine Hurst wouldn't be interested given that he's already refused to countenance a move to BP once.
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Obviously doesn’t buy in to the town project. It would take some convincing by Dallas for him to be offered terms here.
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To hell with it. Lets just get Dallas, Tshimanga AND Lloyd.

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To hell with it. Lets just get Dallas, Tshimanga AND Lloyd.

If Carling did striker contracts at town!  


How would you squeeze Bogle into that front 3 though?

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How would you squeeze Bogle into that front 3 though?



And presume podge would be on the bench


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Would love Scott Arfield, too, would really bolster the midfield.
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I saw Dallas in the play off final against Notts and he was underwhelming.
Peterborough have a commitment to buy Tshimanga but he barely played a minute and their fans were scathing when he did play. Wouldn't be shocked if Peterborough tried to offload asap. Also interesting that he wasn't starting for Chesterfield and the general consensus was that he's never recovered from the injury
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I saw Dallas in the play off final against Notts and he was underwhelming.
Peterborough have a commitment to buy Tshimanga but he barely played a minute and their fans were scathing when he did play. Wouldn't be shocked if Peterborough tried to offload asap. Also interesting that he wasn't starting for Chesterfield and the general consensus was that he's never recovered from the injury
Think we can do better


Move to Birmingham fell through late in the summer due to a failed medical. I suspect might have been a case of Chesterfield protecting their asset to sell in January as he didn’t have long left on his contract.


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Peterborough have a commitment to buy Tshimanga but he barely played a minute and their fans were scathing when he did play. Wouldn't be shocked if Peterborough tried to offload asap. Also interesting that he wasn't starting for Chesterfield and the general consensus was that he's never recovered from the injury
Think we can do better


That's a bit harsh how can they judge a player if he has barely played a minute ?



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That's a bit harsh how can they judge a player if he has barely played a minute ?



My mate is a Posh season ticket holder and he said Tshimanga was completely out of his depth, said he was genuinely one of the worst players they've had in the last ten years.
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My mate is a Posh season ticket holder and he said Tshimanga was completely out of his depth, said he was genuinely one of the worst players they've had in the last ten years.


Let's face it, he was pretty excrement against us till the injury time goal.
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What’s going on with Tshimanga? Peterborough fans were not keen on him at all, think he was only there on a loan with a view to a permanent but not sure if they’ll bother following that through now.



Quoted from Mikey_345
It was an obligation to buy so they have to go through with it. If they don't fancy him i'd suggest they may want to move him on quite quickly and recoup some money, if he sits on the bench or in the stands all season his value of course goes down and less chance of making it back.


I doubt Peterborough have the money to sign him. Darragh MacAnthony has fallen out with the other investors he found and brought in and they have stopped putting money in. The company that owned the stadium has gone into receivership. DA has played down the issue, but it's a huge red flag.
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I doubt Peterborough have the money to sign him. Darragh MacAnthony has fallen out with the other investors he found and brought in and they have stopped putting money in. The company that owned the stadium has gone into receivership. DA has played down the issue, but it's a huge red flag.


He's an interesting character that Pboro chairman ,heard an interview with him the other day -quite volatile had a bit of a pot shot at a former management team calling them 'the old crew ' or something.
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As I understand it, Peterborough made an undertaking to sign him permanently at the end of the season for £250000 and if they send him back, they still have to pay that figure.
I might be wrong of course.
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Was Tshimanga the one who changed his mind on us in January ?
Hurst said (think it was the fans forum maybe ?)about 1 that was literally at the ground and then changed his mind and went to a League 1 team .
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Was Tshimanga the one who changed his mind on us in January ?
Hurst said (think it was the fans forum maybe ?)about 1 that was literally at the ground and then changed his mind and went to a League 1 team .


Think it was (but I know nothing!). Don't think anyone else fitted the bill
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Why would it have been Tshimanga when the bloke was almost signed by Birmingham in the summer and then clearly in talks with Peterborough all the way through the last window?
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Tshimanga would be a gamble but, would be one that could work. I’d say that gillingham, Bradford and possibly franchise fc would all be in front of us, as well as others. But, if he is to become a Peterborough player as most on here think, maybe they may send him out on a 6 month or season loan to see how he gets on.


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Was Tshimanga the one who changed his mind on us in January ?
Hurst said (think it was the fans forum maybe ?)about 1 that was literally at the ground and then changed his mind and went to a League 1 team .


Nooo that was the lad at Dagenham who went to burton Albion last minute walker or something he was called


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Nooo that was the lad at Dagenham who went to burton Albion last minute walker or something he was called


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Obviously doesn’t buy in to the town project. It would take some convincing by Dallas for him to be offered terms here.


As much as I do like the idea that we've got this project, vision and ethos. I think it has as much potential to hold us back as it does move us forward.

Ideally you want all your players to be bang on with the values of the club, buy into what the manager is trying to do and be part of that journey.  But not everyone will get it.  Not everyone will be part of it.  Some will just want to come here and score a excrement load of goals for a decent wedge.

I'm sure part of Hurst's recruitment drive, especially to the younger players, is that we can catapult you to something bigger and better.  But, in the same way Hurst is so protective of the dynamic of the dressing room, you've got to take a chance every now and then on something that isn't 100% on brand with what you're looking at.

I trust him, completely. But I do think Hurst could be braver in the transfer market at times.  
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I agree, we definitely need some more Brodie/Payne/Welsh types 🤦
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As much as I do like the idea that we've got this project, vision and ethos. I think it has as much potential to hold us back as it does move us forward.

Ideally you want all your players to be bang on with the values of the club, buy into what the manager is trying to do and be part of that journey.  But not everyone will get it.  Not everyone will be part of it.  Some will just want to come here and score a excrement load of goals for a decent wedge.

I'm sure part of Hurst's recruitment drive, especially to the younger players, is that we can catapult you to something bigger and better.  But, in the same way Hurst is so protective of the dynamic of the dressing room, you've got to take a chance every now and then on something that isn't 100% on brand with what you're looking at.

I trust him, completely. But I do think Hurst could be braver in the transfer market at times.  


A good team wins you games, a good dressing room wins you promotion. If you don't believe that after watching us in the play offs then I don't know what to say to you, the reason we dug in is because of the players that Hurst signed and because he was so picky about the characters he brought to the football club. He'll never stray away from his method of bringing good people to the club and quite frankly that's one thing that i'm sure 99% of the fan base will back him on. I'd much rather a Ryan Taylor than a Barry Conlon just because Barry scores a shed load of goals.
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Troy Deeney being released by Birmingham soon. 34 years old though, and guess he’d want a big wage. He’d probably go to a bigger fish.
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I'm not advocating bringing in complete basket-cases, far from it.  I'm saying that there's potentially some benefit from going for someone a little bit braver.

You rightly bring in the play-offs as an example of team-spirit and togetherness, however a key part of that success (two free-kick deliveries against Notts County and then the winner against Solihull) was Jordan Maguire-Drew.  A player who definitely didn't fit the traditional Hurst mould.  Ultimately he was moved on and it was the right decision, but in terms of helping to get us over the line he was integral.  

That's the type of risk and bravery I'm talking about.  
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Problem there is that, for every JMD, there are a dozen Dominic Vose types who have bags of ability, but achieve the square root of nothing.

In fact, JMD appears to have perhaps entered the Vose stage of his career given the downward trajectory at Yeovil which would make it doubly lucky that he did so well for us in our promotion season.
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Ipswich Town retained and let go list out today, I wonder if any names in there are still registered in the Hurst white rabbit folder ??

Couple of names that might suit the quality dressing room standard as well as being good areas to strengthen?
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Problem there is that, for every JMD, there are a dozen Dominic Vose types who have bags of ability, but achieve the square root of nothing.

In fact, JMD appears to have perhaps entered the Vose stage of his career given the downward trajectory at Yeovil which would make it doubly lucky that he did so well for us in our promotion season.


But that's the risk factor, isn't it?

JMD used to frustrate the life out of me with his languid approach and general lack of fitness.  But without him offering something a little bit different last year, I'm not convinced we would have got over the line (equally so we needed that togetherness too).  Going back to Hurst's previous promotion with us, it was Jon Nolan who came in as that spark and played huge part in the promotion.  Was he a Hurst type?  Not for my money he wasn't.

Hurst can and has gone for someone a bit different before, as you point out with Vose it sometimes doesn't work.  But sometimes it does.  Last season I felt we were crying out for someone a bit different, even just a gun for hire.  
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But that's the risk factor, isn't it?

JMD used to frustrate the life out of me with his languid approach and general lack of fitness.  But without him offering something a little bit different last year, I'm not convinced we would have got over the line (equally so we needed that togetherness too).  Going back to Hurst's previous promotion with us, it was Jon Nolan who came in as that spark and played huge part in the promotion.  Was he a Hurst type?  Not for my money he wasn't.

Hurst can and has gone for someone a bit different before, as you point out with Vose it sometimes doesn't work.  But sometimes it does.  Last season I felt we were crying out for someone a bit different, even just a gun for hire.  


At the right end of the table, you can accommodate and arguably need a player like JMD. At the bottom end, you need a lot more grit to grind results out and he could become a liability.
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Problem there is that, for every JMD, there are a dozen Dominic Vose types who have bags of ability, but achieve the square root of nothing.

In fact, JMD appears to have perhaps entered the Vose stage of his career given the downward trajectory at Yeovil which would make it doubly lucky that he did so well for us in our promotion season.


Scott Neilson has to be up there as one of those 'types'
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Yep. I was going to mention him, but couldn't remember his name.

Loads of ability, a real threat on his day, but lacking the will to succeed. In fact, I seem to recall he later admitted he didn't like playing football very much, which made his career choice all the more confusing! Probably thought he should do it because his Grandad was such a famous player.

His current prospects don't look to be great as he's awaiting extradition to the US for fraud! Still, at least he's no Sestanovich (who is, of course, another one of those 'types').
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As much as I do like the idea that we've got this project, vision and ethos. I think it has as much potential to hold us back as it does move us forward.

Ideally you want all your players to be bang on with the values of the club, buy into what the manager is trying to do and be part of that journey.  But not everyone will get it.  Not everyone will be part of it.  Some will just want to come here and score a excrement load of goals for a decent wedge.

I'm sure part of Hurst's recruitment drive, especially to the younger players, is that we can catapult you to something bigger and better.  But, in the same way Hurst is so protective of the dynamic of the dressing room, you've got to take a chance every now and then on something that isn't 100% on brand with what you're looking at.

I trust him, completely. But I do think Hurst could be braver in the transfer market at times.  


There’s a great book I use to reference when training called : who moved my cheese!

It’s all about Group dynamics and how different stages work during the bonding and familiarisation periods. Maybe this won’t work in every scenario but I’d say that PH uses this defined way of moulding his teams together.


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A good team wins you games, a good dressing room wins you promotion. If you don't believe that after watching us in the play offs then I don't know what to say to you, the reason we dug in is because of the players that Hurst signed and because he was so picky about the characters he brought to the football club. He'll never stray away from his method of bringing good people to the club and quite frankly that's one thing that i'm sure 99% of the fan base will back him on. I'd much rather a Ryan Taylor than a Barry Conlon just because Barry scores a shed load of goals.


That is the first time I have ever seen 'Barry Conlon' and 'shed load of goals' in the same sentence.

I'd have been far less surprised if it had been shed load of lager or shed load of burgers.


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Troy Deeney being released by Birmingham soon. 34 years old though, and guess he’d want a big wage. He’d probably go to a bigger fish.

Walsall bound if rumours are to be believed.
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I agree, we definitely need some more Brodie/Payne/Welsh types 🤦


So you want us to sign thugs that fight with their own teammates?

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In a rare defence of Conlon, 10 goals in 24 league appearances for us.  A goal every 140 minutes.  

Huge part of us staying up in 2009.

Disaster afterwards and with the glorious benefit of hindsight someone we should have thanked him, along with Peter Sweeney, for their input and then moved onto someone less short-term.  Not sure Newell was thinking short-term, long-term or any-term other than last orders really.
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At the right end of the table, you can accommodate and arguably need a player like JMD. At the bottom end, you need a lot more grit to grind results out and he could become a liability.


Which is probably why he didn't really help out at much as many expected at Yeovil in the end.  Definitely not a in the trenches type but you're quite right, you can accommodate that sort of player more when you're doing well/competing at the pointy end of the stick.

At our level there's few examples of players who've got both the graft and the sheer ability.  
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Quoted from Son of Cod

Walsall bound if rumours are to be believed.


That was my first thought as well. Am pretty sure he’s from near there or supports them or some vague connection


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So you want us to sign thugs that fight with their own teammates?



If you didn't understand what I typed there I really think you may be a bit lacking in the brains department 🤔
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Troy Deeney being released by Birmingham soon. 34 years old though, and guess he’d want a big wage. He’d probably go to a bigger fish.


Wants a player/coach role I'm told, can't see he coming here to be El Capitan/ number 10 tbh
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If you didn't understand what I typed there I really think you may be a bit lacking in the brains department 🤔


And you must have problems remembering what you wrote, it's plain to see.

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🤦


I was there, the day Bradley Wood scored a 35 yarder!

From the black and white striped shirts
To the fish in the sea
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Coz we are Grimsby.

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But you'll hear us shout
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Quoted from 123614


And you must have problems remembering what you wrote, it's plain to see.



I’m gonna go out on a limb here and suggest he was maybe being sarcastic.
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Well I can't read emotions on an internet site, nor can anyone else that I know of.
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Been away travelling for 3 weeks and every day I check this thread hoping for a snippet of possible activity, but nothing yet.

Contracts end next week and players,as well as managers will have had their 2 weeks in the sun, so hopefully there will be some movement then.
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Well I can't read emotions on an internet site, nor can anyone else that I know of.


The emoji is the giveaway numbnuts
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The emoji is the giveaway numbnuts


Very insulting, gives away the type of person you are.  As for the 'emoji', not everyone knows or even cares about all the silly pictures at the end of a sentence.  You are posting on a forum, make sure that 'everyone' can understand what you are saying. instead of having to guess what a stupid picture means.  Or is that a bit difficult for you, to write in plain English what you want to say?

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Abo Eisa released from Bradford.
Hurst has previously signed him twice i believe, Shrewsbury & Scunny
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Very insulting, gives away the type of person you are.  As for the 'emoji', not everyone knows or even cares about all the silly pictures at the end of a sentence.  You are posting on a forum, make sure that 'everyone' can understand what you are saying. instead of having to guess what a stupid picture means.  Or is that a bit difficult for you, to write in plain English what you want to say?



I think you’ll find it’s you who has ventured into the realm of digital communications, where the use of emojis, acronyms, initialism, memes, gifs etc., are all well-established, decades-old features. It’s a bit odd to expect an entire online culture to bend to your wishes.

As someone who has been on the Fishy for seven-and-a-bit years, I’d have thought you would have learned the language by now?
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It's not odd at all.  If people want you to understand what they are saying, then they should make it clear.  Tell me this, just how many emojis are there?  Do you  expect me to know what every single one of them means?  Well I can tell you this, sitting down and learning all about emojis is not top of my things to do list.  And conversing with someone who just wants to insult me (not you), is a waste of time.  So he's out!
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It's not odd at all.  If people want you to understand what they are saying, then they should make it clear.  Tell me this, just how many emojis are there?  Do you  expect me to know what every single one of them means?  Well I can tell you this, sitting down and learning all about emojis is not top of my things to do list.  And conversing with someone who just wants to insult me (not you), is a waste of time.  So he's out!


I think the context alone of naming Stefan Payne, Richard Brodie and John Welsh, all of whom were huge failures as signings and not particularly pleasant people either, was enough for most people to realise that it was sarcasm without the use of an emoji.
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It's not odd at all.  If people want you to understand what they are saying, then they should make it clear.  Tell me this, just how many emojis are there?  Do you  expect me to know what every single one of them means?  Well I can tell you this, sitting down and learning all about emojis is not top of my things to do list.  And conversing with someone who just wants to insult me (not you), is a waste of time.  So he's out!


Oh there are thousands, with more being created all the time (we needed a new crown one for Charles' coronation, apparently). And I would expect you to know, from context. Without wishing to be patronising, read this: https://theconversation.com/em.....e-for-gesture-118689

To keep the thread tenuously on-topic: If we sign a quality number 9, I'll use if we lose Clifton I'll use   and if we unexpectedly lose Hurst I'll be like
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I think the context alone of naming Stefan Payne, Richard Brodie and John Welsh, all of whom were huge failures as signings and not particularly pleasant people either, was enough for most people to realise that it was sarcasm without the use of an emoji.


That's your opinion.

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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
Abo Eisa released from Bradford.
Hurst has previously signed him twice i believe, Shrewsbury & Scunny


Also released Yann Songo'o who was also a PH signing for Scunny.
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Oh there are thousands, with more being created all the time (we needed a new crown one for Charles' coronation, apparently). And I would expect you to know, from context. Without wishing to be patronising, read this: https://theconversation.com/em.....e-for-gesture-118689

To keep the thread tenuously on-topic: If we sign a quality number 9, I'll use if we lose Clifton I'll use   and if we unexpectedly lose Hurst I'll be like


You are being patronising, and no, I will not be reading from that link, also I think you made my point valid, confirming that there are thousands of emojis.
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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
Abo Eisa released from Bradford.
Hurst has previously signed him twice i believe, Shrewsbury & Scunny


Really wouldn’t be surprised if he does end up here. Hurst loves him.
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Good thread this.


Can you clarify if you actually mean this, using only the plainest of language?
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Quoted from 123614
It's not odd at all.  If people want you to understand what they are saying, then they should make it clear.  Tell me this, just how many emojis are there?  Do you  expect me to know what every single one of them means?  Well I can tell you this, sitting down and learning all about emojis is not top of my things to do list.  And conversing with someone who just wants to insult me (not you), is a waste of time.  So he's out!


Is it that time of the month Hun xxxxx
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Just seen that Wes Harding has been released by Rotherham. Plays right back/centre back so would certainly tick a couple of  boxes there.

Just had this emailed to me. It’s the retained list of some league 1 clubs :

https://www.peterboroughtoday......ture-gallery-4154658


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Is Emoji available, and what position does he play?
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Quoted from ginnywings
Is Emoji available, and what position does he play?


Hurst is computer-literate so I wouldn't put it past him to sign him.
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Quoted from Surrey97


Really wouldn’t be surprised if he does end up here. Hurst loves him.


Eisa Hurst kind of player then I take it?
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Quoted from Rodley Mariner


Can you clarify if you actually mean this, using only the plainest of language?


What he meant was:

Good thread this.
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66 pages already - it's gunna be a hell of a ride this summer isn't it!  


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Eisa Hurst kind of player then I take it?


Seems to be a good character by all accounts, and he is someone who Hurst seems to have managed to get a tune out of in the past. He also gave him his first pro contract at Shrewsbury before taking him to Scunthorpe, only question mark for me is his recent injury record.
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Someone please tell coddy60 he is blocked, so he can go back to playing with his toys.
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Quoted from 123614
Someone please tell coddy60 he is blocked, so he can go back to playing with his toys.


I presume this is sarcastic?
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You're sacked too.


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Quoted from Rodley Mariner


I presume this is sarcastic?


Doubt it, he doesn't understand sarcasm....
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Don't think Bradford fans are keen on Eisa. Was he the one who scored a bit of a banger past us for Scunny in the COVID season?
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Wtf is this lot!!
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY


There’s a great book I use to reference when training called : who moved my cheese!

It’s all about Group dynamics and how different stages work during the bonding and familiarisation periods. Maybe this won’t work in every scenario but I’d say that PH uses this defined way of moulding his teams together.


you work in a pet shop though


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Quoted from Son of Cod
Don't think Bradford fans are keen on Eisa. Was he the one who scored a bit of a banger past us for Scunny in the COVID season?


Yeah that was him, scored a free kick.
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Max Crocombe agent uploading a 40 minute YouTube highlight reel might suggest he’s not renewing here.

Edit: Apologies it doesn’t look like it is his agent and there is a reel every year.


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Quoted from Surrey97


Really wouldn’t be surprised if he does end up here. Hurst loves him.


Is he on the spreadsheet though?
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Max Crocombe agent uploading a 40 minute YouTube highlight reel might suggest he’s not renewing here.

5 mins of saves, 35 mins of cramp. I'd keep him but he needs to be pushed for his spot by someone capable of taking it off him. If it was the choice of Crocombe and a Battersby type who is never gonna break through or getting rid of Crocombe and spinning the GK wheel in hope of getting an upgrade, I'm spinning that wheel every time. I like him and I think he can do a job, but I'm not losing any sleep if he wants to move on.
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Max Crocombe agent uploading a 40 minute YouTube highlight reel might suggest he’s not renewing here.


Doesn’t Hurst usually give players offered new contracts 14 days to sign the deal or the offer is withdrawn? If he’s still doing that Max’s contract offer has expired.
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Max Crocombe agent uploading a 40 minute YouTube highlight reel might suggest he’s not renewing here.


That user does one nearly every season, might be his mum for all we know.

https://youtube.com/@seems2682
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May 25, 2023, 12:03pm

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I like Max, he's a good league 2 keeper.
Happy if he stays, but he's also replaceable IMO.
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I presume this is sarcastic?


Your presumption is wrong.

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Give it a rest mate, boring now.
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Quoted from 123614


Your presumption is wrong.



Absolute minefield isn't it? (I am being serious).
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Give it a rest mate, boring now.


As usual I get slated for something I didn't start.  I am not going to sit here and let people slag me off when I have done nothing wrong.

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Harvey Cartwright  
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Quoted from 123614


As usual I get slated for something I didn't start.  I am not going to sit here and let people slag me off when I have done nothing wrong.



Oooh. So what are you going to do?
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Harvey Cartwright  


Did you have to use an emoji? It confuses some people on here!
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Absolute minefield isn't it? (I am being serious).


Or are you ?  


The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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When are the fixtures released? Just caught up on the last few pages! 🤯
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When are the fixtures released? Just caught up on the last few pages! 🤯


Thurs 22nd June


I've wasted my life in black and white, a pathetic act for a worthless cause
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Oooh. So what are you going to do?


So have you just jumped onto the end of this thread, or have you actually read from where this started?

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See you in August gents, zzzzzzzz
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Not a rumour but I think it would be a rather astute move to pick up Owen Foster from Scunny. Good young keeper that looks like he has a future higher up the leagues.
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Never has a facepalm emoji caused so many facepalm posts.
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Quoted from SheepGTFC
Not a rumour but I think it would be a rather astute move to pick up Owen Foster from Scunny. Good young keeper that looks like he has a future higher up the leagues.


Seems he's got his fair share of suitors higher up the chain.

Fully expect at least one Scunny youngster to be making the journey down the M180 though.
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See you in August gents, zzzzzzzz


It’s your thread. Your name is on it. It should be your job to steer it through the boring nothingness when Hurst is on his holiday.
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Never has a facepalm emoji caused so many facepalm posts.


Just be grateful he didn’t use a GIF.
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This thread is already threatening to repeat the January window 200 pages of nothing at all classic. I'm already hugely entertained by the numerous posts on whether or not sarcasm is easy to spot in a text! Keep it up boys!
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Quoted from TonySmith
This thread is already threatening to repeat the January window 200 pages of nothing at all classic. I'm already hugely entertained by the numerous posts on whether or not sarcasm is easy to spot in a text! Keep it up boys!


That was a really interesting post.
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Golly, you are really witty.
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Quoted from GollyGTFC


Just be grateful he didn’t use a GIF.


How are you pronouncing 'GIF'?  are you  jiffer or a giffer?
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How are you pronouncing 'GIF'?  are you  jiffer or a giffer?

Proud giffer right here.
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Did you have to use an emoji? It confuses some people on here!


Emojis are violence..
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How are you pronouncing 'GIF'?  are you  jiffer or a giffer?


I always think that jif and jiffer sound awfully rude. Matron.


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Quoted from GollyGTFC


Just be grateful he didn’t use a GIF.


What about a MILF ??  


The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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Quoted from 123614
It's not odd at all.  If people want you to understand what they are saying, then they should make it clear.  Tell me this, just how many emojis are there?  Do you  expect me to know what every single one of them means?  Well I can tell you this, sitting down and learning all about emojis is not top of my things to do list.  And conversing with someone who just wants to insult me (not you), is a waste of time.  So he's out!


There are around 600,000 words in the English Language but many people seem to manage with the same few hundred.
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Quoted from HerveJosse


There are around 600,000 words in the English Language but many people seem to manage with the same few hundred.


B#ll*c£s


"The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That’s how I see football, that’s how I see life.” Bill Shankly
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Jesus, it really is going to be a long summer.
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Emoji's are violence..


Trademarks are slang…



I was there, the day Bradley Wood scored a 35 yarder!

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To the fish in the sea
You'll hear us singing
Coz we are Grimsby.

You won't hear us crying
But you'll hear us shout
Coz we are the Grimsby
And this is our chant.......... Grimsby! Grimsby! Grimsby!

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B#ll*c£s


You've got the spelling of 'Ballcocks' wrong.
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How are you pronouncing 'GIF'?  are you  jiffer or a giffer?


In solidarity with our Spanish cousins I’m a hiffer.

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Quoted from GollyGTFC


In solidarity with our Spanish cousins I’m a hiffer.



Isn't that a South African cow?


Miss Scunthorpe. Not a beauty pageant, just sound advice.
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Isn't that a South African cow?


As my South African mate said:

If it’s dead, eat it

If it’s not dead, shoot it, then eat it


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Jesus, it really is going to be a long summer.

71 pages so far but 59 of those so far are people saying it's going to be a long summer.
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71 pages so far but 59 of those so far are people saying it's going to be a long summer.


Not true, at least 4 of the pages discuss the use of emojis. 🎣
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Not true, at least 4 of the pages discuss the use of emojis. 🎣


Add another 2 for ground capacity and 1 for % of siriki dembele’s future sales


Rose is on fire

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Could be another window where we struggle to attract players  but then again we are still in may , if we get to 200 pages w/o a new face i will panic
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A Bradford take on Abo Eisa from TFF...

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Been here for two years and played under 20 games. Hamstrings made out of cheese strings. Nowhere near good enough for us or yourselves. Feel sorry for the lad but what can ya do. Think he'll be conference bound.
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Could be another window where we struggle to attract players  but then again we are still in may , if we get to 200 pages w/o a new face i will panic


Transfer day starts 14th Juns so we are unlikely to see much action before that date.


Summer transfer window key dates
Premier League: Wednesday, June 14 — Friday, September 1 (11pm)
EFL: Wednesday, June 14 — Friday, September 1 (11pm)


You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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Can we just pretend we have signed somebody so that we can talk about it - I've nothing to do all day.
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Can we just pretend we have signed somebody so that we can talk about it - I've nothing to do all day.


Just for you, I've doctored the BBC Sport football gossip column.  Enjoy trying to verify these all day  

Manchester United are willing to pay £55m for Grimsby's England midfielder Kieran Green and are aiming to beat Liverpool and Arsenal to the 25-year-old's signature. (Mail)

Green will discuss his Grimsby future in a meeting with the club's hierarchy next week. (90min)

Green is leaning towards Manchester United if Grimsby decide to sell. (The Athletic - subscription required)

Alan Buckley says Manchester United defender Harry Maguire, 30, and 27-year-old Manchester City midfielder Kalvin Phillips' lack of game time is "entirely justified" as the former manager called the pair crap before the upcoming Euro qualifiers. (Guardian)

Clee Town are leading the race to sign Leicester City's 25-year-old English winger Harvey Barnes. (Independent)

Scunthorpe are also interested in Barnes, as well as Leeds United's English winger Jack Harrison, 26, David Hilton will fund one transfer and Swann the other (Sun)

The Iron are likely to keep Jimmy Dean as their manager and intend to back him by also targeting Fulham's Portugal midfielder Joao Palhinha, 27, as a potential replacement for Grimsby-bound Fin Shrimpton. (Guardian)

Arsenal plan to sell as many as 14 first-team players to fund eight new signings in major summer rebuild - with the club's record signing, 27-year-old Ivory Coast winger Nicolas Pepe, among those set to leave in a swap deal for Michee Efete. (Football.London)

Mikel Arteta is willing to let England midfielder Emile Smith Rowe, 22, leave the Emirates to make room for Grimsby midfielder Harry Clifton, 24. (Mirror)

The Gunners are also interested in adding Grimsby and Pakistan forward/mid Otis Khan, 27, in a deal worth £21.40. (La Repubblica via Mail)

Manchester United have been told they must pay £140m if they want to sign Town striker Danilo Orsi, 27, this summer after agreeing a deal for his club team-mate and South Korea defender Anthony Driscoll-Glennon, 23. (Il Mattino via Mirror)

Grimsby are desperately trying to convince Orsi to sign a new contract before a release clause comes into effect this summer. (90min)

However, Solihull Moors striker Andrew Dallas, 24, still remains Manchester United's first-choice striker option and the club will move early in the window in attempt to make negotiations smoother. (Guardian)

Aston Villa want to secure the long-term futures of England striker Ollie Watkins, 27, and Scotland midfielder John McGinn, 28, with new contracts before the transfer window opens. (Telegraph - subscription required)

Inter Milan and Belgium forward Romelu Lukaku, 30, says he knew Peterborough would try to sign him if his move to Chelsea did not work out. (Mail)

The Mariners are resigned to losing manager Paul Hurst to Tottenham. (Football Insider)

Real Betis may return to their long-standing interest in Grimsby Town's Irish midfielder Gavan Holohan, 31, if the DN35 club are relegated from League 2 next year. (Estadio Deportivo)

Arsenal have offered England midfielder Reiss Nelson a new deal until 2027, with the option of an extra year, but the 23-year-old also has offers from other Premier League sides, Italy, Gainsborough Trinity and Spain. (Fabrizio Romano)

Swansea boss Russell Martin has verbally agreed to become the new Grimsby manager if El General does move to Spurs. (Sky Sports)

Martin, 37, has agreed a three-year deal to become Grimsby's new manager, with the League 2 club set to announce his appointment in the coming days after tractor watch has ended. (Sun)

Barcelona have been shocked by hints that France defender Jules Kounde, 24, wants to leave the club, just a year after joining from Sevilla. (90min)

Qatar Sports Investments, who own Paris St-Germain, have made a move to buy nineteen-time Lincolnshire Senior Cup champions Scunthorpe.  They want to turn Glanford Park into a storage facility for all their helicopters (Mirror)
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How I laughed !!!

So...... Rovrum and Sheff Wednesday both start legal proceedings to stop Hurst going to Tottingham.

Penalty shoot out at Cheapside, to see who signs Hurst.


NEXT ??
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Quoted from OddShapedBalls


Just for you, I've doctored the BBC Sport football gossip column.  Enjoy trying to verify these all day  

Manchester United are willing to pay £55m for Grimsby's England midfielder Kieran Green and are aiming to beat Liverpool and Arsenal to the 25-year-old's signature. (Mail)

Green will discuss his Grimsby future in a meeting with the club's hierarchy next week. (90min)

Green is leaning towards Manchester United if Grimsby decide to sell. (The Athletic - subscription required)

Alan Buckley says Manchester United defender Harry Maguire, 30, and 27-year-old Manchester City midfielder Kalvin Phillips' lack of game time is "entirely justified" as the former manager called the pair crap before the upcoming Euro qualifiers. (Guardian)

Clee Town are leading the race to sign Leicester City's 25-year-old English winger Harvey Barnes. (Independent)

Scunthorpe are also interested in Barnes, as well as Leeds United's English winger Jack Harrison, 26, David Hilton will fund one transfer and Swann the other (Sun)

The Iron are likely to keep Jimmy Dean as their manager and intend to back him by also targeting Fulham's Portugal midfielder Joao Palhinha, 27, as a potential replacement for Grimsby-bound Fin Shrimpton. (Guardian)

Arsenal plan to sell as many as 14 first-team players to fund eight new signings in major summer rebuild - with the club's record signing, 27-year-old Ivory Coast winger Nicolas Pepe, among those set to leave in a swap deal for Michee Efete. (Football.London)

Mikel Arteta is willing to let England midfielder Emile Smith Rowe, 22, leave the Emirates to make room for Grimsby midfielder Harry Clifton, 24. (Mirror)

The Gunners are also interested in adding Grimsby and Pakistan forward/mid Otis Khan, 27, in a deal worth £21.40. (La Repubblica via Mail)

Manchester United have been told they must pay £140m if they want to sign Town striker Danilo Orsi, 27, this summer after agreeing a deal for his club team-mate and South Korea defender Anthony Driscoll-Glennon, 23. (Il Mattino via Mirror)

Grimsby are desperately trying to convince Orsi to sign a new contract before a release clause comes into effect this summer. (90min)

However, Solihull Moors striker Andrew Dallas, 24, still remains Manchester United's first-choice striker option and the club will move early in the window in attempt to make negotiations smoother. (Guardian)

Aston Villa want to secure the long-term futures of England striker Ollie Watkins, 27, and Scotland midfielder John McGinn, 28, with new contracts before the transfer window opens. (Telegraph - subscription required)

Inter Milan and Belgium forward Romelu Lukaku, 30, says he knew Peterborough would try to sign him if his move to Chelsea did not work out. (Mail)

The Mariners are resigned to losing manager Paul Hurst to Tottenham. (Football Insider)

Real Betis may return to their long-standing interest in Grimsby Town's Irish midfielder Gavan Holohan, 31, if the DN35 club are relegated from League 2 next year. (Estadio Deportivo)

Arsenal have offered England midfielder Reiss Nelson a new deal until 2027, with the option of an extra year, but the 23-year-old also has offers from other Premier League sides, Italy, Gainsborough Trinity and Spain. (Fabrizio Romano)

Swansea boss Russell Martin has verbally agreed to become the new Grimsby manager if El General does move to Spurs. (Sky Sports)

Martin, 37, has agreed a three-year deal to become Grimsby's new manager, with the League 2 club set to announce his appointment in the coming days after tractor watch has ended. (Sun)

Barcelona have been shocked by hints that France defender Jules Kounde, 24, wants to leave the club, just a year after joining from Sevilla. (90min)

Qatar Sports Investments, who own Paris St-Germain, have made a move to buy nineteen-time Lincolnshire Senior Cup champions Scunthorpe.  They want to turn Glanford Park into a storage facility for all their helicopters (Mirror)


Outstanding!
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Quoted from OddShapedBalls


Just for you, I've doctored the BBC Sport football gossip column.  Enjoy trying to verify these all day  

Manchester United are willing to pay £55m for Grimsby's England midfielder Kieran Green and are aiming to beat Liverpool and Arsenal to the 25-year-old's signature. (Mail)

Green will discuss his Grimsby future in a meeting with the club's hierarchy next week. (90min)

Green is leaning towards Manchester United if Grimsby decide to sell. (The Athletic - subscription required)

Alan Buckley says Manchester United defender Harry Maguire, 30, and 27-year-old Manchester City midfielder Kalvin Phillips' lack of game time is "entirely justified" as the former manager called the pair crap before the upcoming Euro qualifiers. (Guardian)

Clee Town are leading the race to sign Leicester City's 25-year-old English winger Harvey Barnes. (Independent)

Scunthorpe are also interested in Barnes, as well as Leeds United's English winger Jack Harrison, 26, David Hilton will fund one transfer and Swann the other (Sun)

The Iron are likely to keep Jimmy Dean as their manager and intend to back him by also targeting Fulham's Portugal midfielder Joao Palhinha, 27, as a potential replacement for Grimsby-bound Fin Shrimpton. (Guardian)

Arsenal plan to sell as many as 14 first-team players to fund eight new signings in major summer rebuild - with the club's record signing, 27-year-old Ivory Coast winger Nicolas Pepe, among those set to leave in a swap deal for Michee Efete. (Football.London)

Mikel Arteta is willing to let England midfielder Emile Smith Rowe, 22, leave the Emirates to make room for Grimsby midfielder Harry Clifton, 24. (Mirror)

The Gunners are also interested in adding Grimsby and Pakistan forward/mid Otis Khan, 27, in a deal worth £21.40. (La Repubblica via Mail)

Manchester United have been told they must pay £140m if they want to sign Town striker Danilo Orsi, 27, this summer after agreeing a deal for his club team-mate and South Korea defender Anthony Driscoll-Glennon, 23. (Il Mattino via Mirror)

Grimsby are desperately trying to convince Orsi to sign a new contract before a release clause comes into effect this summer. (90min)

However, Solihull Moors striker Andrew Dallas, 24, still remains Manchester United's first-choice striker option and the club will move early in the window in attempt to make negotiations smoother. (Guardian)

Aston Villa want to secure the long-term futures of England striker Ollie Watkins, 27, and Scotland midfielder John McGinn, 28, with new contracts before the transfer window opens. (Telegraph - subscription required)

Inter Milan and Belgium forward Romelu Lukaku, 30, says he knew Peterborough would try to sign him if his move to Chelsea did not work out. (Mail)

The Mariners are resigned to losing manager Paul Hurst to Tottenham. (Football Insider)

Real Betis may return to their long-standing interest in Grimsby Town's Irish midfielder Gavan Holohan, 31, if the DN35 club are relegated from League 2 next year. (Estadio Deportivo)

Arsenal have offered England midfielder Reiss Nelson a new deal until 2027, with the option of an extra year, but the 23-year-old also has offers from other Premier League sides, Italy, Gainsborough Trinity and Spain. (Fabrizio Romano)

Swansea boss Russell Martin has verbally agreed to become the new Grimsby manager if El General does move to Spurs. (Sky Sports)

Martin, 37, has agreed a three-year deal to become Grimsby's new manager, with the League 2 club set to announce his appointment in the coming days after tractor watch has ended. (Sun)

Barcelona have been shocked by hints that France defender Jules Kounde, 24, wants to leave the club, just a year after joining from Sevilla. (90min)

Qatar Sports Investments, who own Paris St-Germain, have made a move to buy nineteen-time Lincolnshire Senior Cup champions Scunthorpe.  They want to turn Glanford Park into a storage facility for all their helicopters (Mirror)


Bullshit


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

John Tondeur - Wembley Stadium Sunday 15th May 2016
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I know what this is! it is the fishy version of radio 4's The unbelievable truth, The Aston Villa one is real.  amiright?

Quoted from OddShapedBalls


Just for you, I've doctored the BBC Sport football gossip column.  Enjoy trying to verify these all day  

Manchester United are willing to pay £55m for Grimsby's England midfielder Kieran Green and are aiming to beat Liverpool and Arsenal to the 25-year-old's signature. (Mail)

Green will discuss his Grimsby future in a meeting with the club's hierarchy next week. (90min)

Green is leaning towards Manchester United if Grimsby decide to sell. (The Athletic - subscription required)

Alan Buckley says Manchester United defender Harry Maguire, 30, and 27-year-old Manchester City midfielder Kalvin Phillips' lack of game time is "entirely justified" as the former manager called the pair crap before the upcoming Euro qualifiers. (Guardian)

Clee Town are leading the race to sign Leicester City's 25-year-old English winger Harvey Barnes. (Independent)

Scunthorpe are also interested in Barnes, as well as Leeds United's English winger Jack Harrison, 26, David Hilton will fund one transfer and Swann the other (Sun)

The Iron are likely to keep Jimmy Dean as their manager and intend to back him by also targeting Fulham's Portugal midfielder Joao Palhinha, 27, as a potential replacement for Grimsby-bound Fin Shrimpton. (Guardian)

Arsenal plan to sell as many as 14 first-team players to fund eight new signings in major summer rebuild - with the club's record signing, 27-year-old Ivory Coast winger Nicolas Pepe, among those set to leave in a swap deal for Michee Efete. (Football.London)

Mikel Arteta is willing to let England midfielder Emile Smith Rowe, 22, leave the Emirates to make room for Grimsby midfielder Harry Clifton, 24. (Mirror)

The Gunners are also interested in adding Grimsby and Pakistan forward/mid Otis Khan, 27, in a deal worth £21.40. (La Repubblica via Mail)

Manchester United have been told they must pay £140m if they want to sign Town striker Danilo Orsi, 27, this summer after agreeing a deal for his club team-mate and South Korea defender Anthony Driscoll-Glennon, 23. (Il Mattino via Mirror)

Grimsby are desperately trying to convince Orsi to sign a new contract before a release clause comes into effect this summer. (90min)

However, Solihull Moors striker Andrew Dallas, 24, still remains Manchester United's first-choice striker option and the club will move early in the window in attempt to make negotiations smoother. (Guardian)

Aston Villa want to secure the long-term futures of England striker Ollie Watkins, 27, and Scotland midfielder John McGinn, 28, with new contracts before the transfer window opens. (Telegraph - subscription required)

Inter Milan and Belgium forward Romelu Lukaku, 30, says he knew Peterborough would try to sign him if his move to Chelsea did not work out. (Mail)

The Mariners are resigned to losing manager Paul Hurst to Tottenham. (Football Insider)

Real Betis may return to their long-standing interest in Grimsby Town's Irish midfielder Gavan Holohan, 31, if the DN35 club are relegated from League 2 next year. (Estadio Deportivo)

Arsenal have offered England midfielder Reiss Nelson a new deal until 2027, with the option of an extra year, but the 23-year-old also has offers from other Premier League sides, Italy, Gainsborough Trinity and Spain. (Fabrizio Romano)

Swansea boss Russell Martin has verbally agreed to become the new Grimsby manager if El General does move to Spurs. (Sky Sports)

Martin, 37, has agreed a three-year deal to become Grimsby's new manager, with the League 2 club set to announce his appointment in the coming days after tractor watch has ended. (Sun)

Barcelona have been shocked by hints that France defender Jules Kounde, 24, wants to leave the club, just a year after joining from Sevilla. (90min)

Qatar Sports Investments, who own Paris St-Germain, have made a move to buy nineteen-time Lincolnshire Senior Cup champions Scunthorpe.  They want to turn Glanford Park into a storage facility for all their helicopters (Mirror)


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Bradford City striker Andy Cook has rejected a contract offer from League One newcomers Stevenage as his contract comes to an end at Valley Parade.

Fat boy Evans had been hopeful of tempting League Two’s top scorer to The Lamex Stadium to spearhead their attack as they look to build a squad capable of competing in League One. However, it’s understood that Cook would be unwilling to relocate to the area, wanting to stay in the North East prompting him to reject the advances.
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Bradford City striker Andy Cook has rejected a contract offer from League One newcomers Stevenage as his contract comes to an end at Valley Parade.

Fat boy Evans had been hopeful of tempting League Two’s top scorer to The Lamex Stadium to spearhead their attack as they look to build a squad capable of competing in League One. However, it’s understood that Cook would be unwilling to relocate to the area, wanting to stay in the North East prompting him to reject the advances.


It really would make my day if it turned out that this was a direct quote taken from the BBC or some other respectable media outlet.
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I know what this is! it is the fishy version of radio 4's The unbelievable truth, The Aston Villa one is real.  amiright?





Correct!  There is one other un-altered gossip piece too, it was basket case enough for me to not have to change.  Eyes down for the full house......
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My heart says Glanford park helicopter park, but my head says Kounde.
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My heart says Glanford park helicopter park, but my head says Kounde.


He shoots, he scores!  ...with a header, just to clarify.  Not even the oil sheiks would risk their helicopters in Scunny
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He shoots, he scores!  ...with a header, just to clarify.  Not even the oil sheiks would risk their helicopters in Scunny


Telegraph headline :

LOCAL SPOTS UFO OVER HENRY AFRIKA’S

Turns out to be a helicopter



Attachment: img_3633_3600.jpeg
Size: 33.92 KB



Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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It really would make my day if it turned out that this was a direct quote taken from the BBC or some other respectable media outlet.


It was taken from a reputable website but sadly i did change certain words. Sorry for getting your hopes up lol
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Not a rumour but I think it would be a rather astute move to pick up Owen Foster from Scunny. Good young keeper that looks like he has a future higher up the leagues.


Hi Owen!
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Another goalkeeping option could be Christy Pym, available from  Peterborough, could be a decent no 1? Did well on loan for Mansfield.
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Peterborough look to be in absolute excrement street.

Finances all over the shop it seems. Top scorer made avaliable for transfer and I reckon clubs will be looking to raid a few others.

My early prediction for an outside bet to go down next season.
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Hi Owen!


Was he the kid that let 7 goals in at Bristol on the last day or last season?
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Striker Danny rose in talks with us.
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Striker Danny rose in talks with us.


Is this an actual piece of genuine transfer gossip I see?
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127 pages too early !!
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Another goalkeeping option could be Christy Pym, available from  Peterborough, could be a decent no 1? Did well on loan for Mansfield.


I think he's off to Mansfield permanent
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I’ve heard the name Adam Senior floated around as-well
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Slightly off topic but I follow solihull on twitter (not sure how or why) and they've signed a few already! Whether they're good or not I don't know but talk about doing business early.
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Slightly off topic but I follow solihull on twitter (not sure how or why) and they've signed a few already! Whether they're good or not I don't know but talk about doing business early.


Contracts usually end sooner in non league.
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Contracts usually end sooner in non league.


As does the will to live!


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Striker Danny rose in talks with us.


Just signed a new contract with Stevenage at the back end of the season so I highly doubt that.
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I expect we’ll all have something official to talk about after the bank holiday weekend 🙂
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I expect we’ll all have something official to talk about after the bank holiday weekend 🙂


oooh you tease.....
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oooh you tease.....


Clifton’s new deal?




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A contract has been offered to one of our own players, and he wants to stay, but it's urine poor, and there are up to half a dozen clubs in for him, so I wouldn't think he's staying 😉
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Given that only one of our out of contract players, Crocombe, has been offered a new deal i'm assuming that's who you're referring to as everyone else is under contract and would command a fee if someone else wanted them. Care to elaborate on what 'urine poor' actually is in financial terms? I for one would not be wanting the club to push the boat out on a keeper who has done relatively well but who you'd like to think we could upgrade on in the summer if he left.
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Quoted from Surrey97
I expect we’ll all have something official to talk about after the bank holiday weekend 🙂


One that will have the haters hating or foaming at the mouth with the news?
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Quoted from drew peacock
Given that only one of our out of contract players, Crocombe, has been offered a new deal i'm assuming that's who you're referring to as everyone else is under contract and would command a fee if someone else wanted them. Care to elaborate on what 'urine poor' actually is in financial terms? I for one would not be wanting the club to push the boat out on a keeper who has done relatively well but who you'd like to think we could upgrade on in the summer if he left.


The clue is in the phrase “one of our own “. He needs to put his foot down, someone is taking the urine.
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Given that only one of our out of contract players, Crocombe, has been offered a new deal i'm assuming that's who you're referring to as everyone else is under contract and would command a fee if someone else wanted them. Care to elaborate on what 'urine poor' actually is in financial terms? I for one would not be wanting the club to push the boat out on a keeper who has done relatively well but who you'd like to think we could upgrade on in the summer if he left.


Wrong, and no, as I don't know the amount...
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Wrong, and no, as I don't know the amount...


So you don't know the amount but call it poor? Make it make sense.
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So you don't know the amount but call it poor? Make it make sense.


I'm quoting, does that make sense?
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Another goalkeeping option could be Christy Pym, available from  Peterborough, could be a decent no 1? Did well on loan for Mansfield.


Was only thinking about this when I see it the other day, cracking keeper and would be very happy if he signed for us


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Matt Dean tweets that we are interested in Billy Chadwick but have yet to make an offer
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Matt Dean tweets that we are interested in Billy Chadwick but have yet to make an offer


Tweet 1663203062670925824 will appear here...


Niall Maher weighs in with his thoughts  
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Matt Dean tweets that we are interested in Billy Chadwick but have yet to make an offer


Wasn't we looking at him the previous two seasons also? Seems like somebody that's been on the list for a while.
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Matt Dean's record is WOZesque to be fair.
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Anyone heard about interest in a a former loan signing from Hurst’s first spell being a target. I believe he has a year left on his contract, but his club are desperate to remove him from their wage bill (not that they’ve been paying him).
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Anyone heard about interest in a a former loan signing from Hurst’s first spell being a target. I believe he has a year left on his contract, but his club are desperate to remove him from their wage bill (not that they’ve been paying him).


Tom Naylor?


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Anyone heard about interest in a a former loan signing from Hurst’s first spell being a target. I believe he has a year left on his contract, but his club are desperate to remove him from their wage bill (not that they’ve been paying him).


Assuming this is Tom Naylor.

Mansfield front runners.

However, wouldn’t not be surprised if we’re interested.


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Anyone heard about interest in a a former loan signing from Hurst’s first spell being a target. I believe he has a year left on his contract, but his club are desperate to remove him from their wage bill (not that they’ve been paying him).


Looking at our list of loanees from our only season in league 2 in his first spell ive narrowed down to 2, Kayden Jackson and Brandon Comley? Of the 2 Kayden Jackson seems the most likely and upon slightly further inspection he signed a new 2 year contract in 2022 leaving him with a year left.
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Any idea when the first Bogle and/or Almond rumour and/or 'I'd take either back in a heartbeat' comment will be thrown in?
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Assuming this is Tom Naylor.

Mansfield front runners.

However, wouldn’t not be surprised if we’re interested.


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Tom Naylor?


Yeah.
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Any idea when the first Bogle and/or Almond rumour and/or 'I'd take either back in a heartbeat' comment will be thrown in?


I think we’re more likely to see Des Hazel return for a second spell, or a signing from Brazil. Honestly, these rumours are nuts.
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Naylor played 36 games in the Championship last season, would be a great signing if we could pull that off.

Jackson only started 9 games last season and didn't start any in the last half of the season, I could see that being a more realistic target.
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Any idea when the first Bogle and/or Almond rumour and/or 'I'd take either back in a heartbeat' comment will be thrown in?


Probably page 1


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Jackson only started 9 games last season and didn't start any in the last half of the season, I could see that being a more realistic target.


Was more of a sub than starter in the second half of the season but still started a couple of games, including one against his former club Accrington (who he scored against).

Signed by Hurst twice before but can't see this one at all.  Ipswich were absolutely flying in the second half of the season, at both ends of the pitch, so no shame in him not getting as many minutes.  Still got a year on his deal and if he's surplus to requirements at Portman Road, surely be clubs interested who can blow us out the water financially.
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I’d be amazed if Tom Naylor has to drop down to League 2
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Was more of a sub than starter in the second half of the season but still started a couple of games, including one against his former club Accrington (who he scored against).

Signed by Hurst twice before but can't see this one at all.  Ipswich were absolutely flying in the second half of the season, at both ends of the pitch, so no shame in him not getting as many minutes.  Still got a year on his deal and if he's surplus to requirements at Portman Road, surely be clubs interested who can blow us out the water financially.


He’s at Wigan, isn’t he?


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Jackson?  He's at Ipswich.
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Jackson?  He's at Ipswich.


Clearly I’m not following the thread properly; I’d missed the Jackson reference and was assuming you were on about Naylor.

I shall STFU. Please carry on…


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Would genuinely be shocked to see Naylor here next year. Lots of game time in the Championship last year and still only 31 so not at the stage where age is a factor in dropping down levels.


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Regan Poole… 24-year-old right back released by Lincoln. Not heard anything… just fits what we might need to challenge Efete and local!
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Regan Poole… 24-year-old right back released by Lincoln. Not heard anything… just fits what we might need to challenge Efete and local!


Think he refused an offer of a new contract as he’s bound for better things, excellent player who the locals expect to be joining a championship club not L2.
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Regan Poole… 24-year-old right back released by Lincoln. Not heard anything… just fits what we might need to challenge Efete and local!


Would be surprised if he doesn't end up in the Championship. Certainly won't be taking a step down to L2!


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Blackburn, Bristol City and Huddersfield all in for Poole apparently.

I think we've more chance of escaping a Michael Barrymore pool.
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Quoted from diehardmariner
Blackburn, Bristol City and Huddersfield all in for Poole apparently.

I think we've more chance of escaping a Michael Barrymore pool.


Where's Aaron when you need him!

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Think he refused an offer of a new contract as he’s bound for better things, excellent player who the locals expect to be joining a championship club not L2.


I’ll go back to the summer bullshit drawing board!
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Is there a reason everyone is assuming that loan player from Hurst's first spell is either Naylor or Jackson? Surely these ones are more likely than either of those...

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Is there a reason everyone is assuming that loan player from Hurst's first spell is either Naylor or Jackson? Surely these ones are more likely than either of those...

Jamie Devitt
Rhys Oates
Ollie Palmer
Say it quietly...Harry Pell


The ‘not being paid by his club’ comment
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Also Golly, who first posted the tease, has since confirmed it's Naylor he's referencing.
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Quoted from diehardmariner
Also Golly, who first posted the tease, has since confirmed it's Naylor he's referencing.


That was the giveaway for me.
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Ah okay, well in that case I hope Golly's right. Would be a cracking signing. Can't see it personally though.
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Also Golly, who first posted the tease, has since confirmed it's Naylor he's referencing.


I haven’t heard anything. And if I had heard something I would say that I haven’t. So this post is completely pointless.

But what I will say is that length of contract is crucial to signing the quality that we are after. In this day and age a 2 plus option for 1 more / 3 year contract would be very attractive to any player at our level. Especially if they are nearer the end of their career than the start. (i.e. 28 or older)
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I haven’t heard anything. And if I had heard something I would say that I haven’t. So this post is completely pointless.

But what I will say is that length of contract is crucial to signing the quality that we are after. In this day and age a 2 plus option for 1 more / 3 year contract would be very attractive to any player at our level. Especially if they are nearer the end of their career than the start. (i.e. 28 or older)


What position does Naylor play these days? I know he played centre-half during his time here but the Wigan OS has him down as a midfielder.

I said a little while back that a midfield anchor who has played a level or two above League Two and is still just about in his prime would be just what the doctor ordered. Assuming he’s been playing in that role, Naylor would fit the bill perfectly.

A real shame you haven’t heard anything, Golly…



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What position does Naylor play these days? I know he played centre-half during his time here but the Wigan OS has him down as a midfielder.

I said a little while back that a midfield anchor who has played a level or two above League Two and is still just about in his prime would be just what the doctor ordered. Assuming he’s been playing in that role, Naylor would fit the bill perfectly.

A real shame you haven’t heard anything, Golly…



He actually played central midfield here, I remember his first game for us he did a cute little turn and played a very nice through ball in behind there left back. I believe he is just a utility man however that has an array of positions in his locker.
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What position does Naylor play these days? I know he played centre-half during his time here but the Wigan OS has him down as a midfielder.

I said a little while back that a midfield anchor who has played a level or two above League Two and is still just about in his prime would be just what the doctor ordered. Assuming he’s been playing in that role, Naylor would fit the bill perfectly.

A real shame you haven’t heard anything, Golly…



Looks like overwhelmingly as CM/Defensive midfielder. Can play CB though as you say, but seems midfield is his preferred/better role.


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Defender Greg Taylor released by Cambridge might be useful backup. Played a lot of games in league two. Ryan Bennett keeping him out of the Cambridge side in league one.
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Defender Greg Taylor released by Cambridge might be useful backup. Played a lot of games in league two. Ryan Bennett keeping him out of the Cambridge side in league one.


Would rather the bloke keeping him out the side...


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Looks like overwhelmingly as CM/Defensive midfielder. Can play CB though as you say, but seems midfield is his preferred/better role.


A role we could do with, a strong defensively minded midfielder to do the dirty work for Alex Hunt
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A role we could do with, a strong defensively minded midfielder to do the dirty work for Alex Hunt


Agree, but do think that's what Hurst brought Green in to do. Interesting to see how Green develops having got a first season in the league under his belt. Naylor would be a fantastic signing, just don't see it being at all likely.


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Just seen Carlisle's released list and think Tobi Sho-Silva looks like a very PH signing. Apparently a grafter and well liked by Carlisle wishing him well on his next move.
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Agree, but do think that's what Hurst brought Green in to do. Interesting to see how Green develops having got a first season in the league under his belt. Naylor would be a fantastic signing, just don't see it being at all likely.


I've been quite critical of Green. He's a real grafter and puts everything on the line but I don't think he's technically good enough, especially if we want to kick on.

I also think a Hurst interview a few months back was telling when he said Hunt is sometimes a victim of being on a higher wave length to those around him. I'd expect that to be remedied with more technically proficient players including another defensive midfielder and Naylor fits the bill.
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I do like Green and think what he adds to the team is definitely of value.

But let's not be fooled that Hurst is afraid of cutting his losses and going through a process of discard and upgrade if it's needed.  

If there's anything at all in Golly definitely not hearing anything about someone who may or may not be Tom Naylor, it would be one hell of signing for us. Consistently played at a higher level than us since his loan spell and still a good age.




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I do like Green and think what he adds to the team is definitely of value.

But let's not be fooled that Hurst is afraid of cutting his losses and going through a process of discard and upgrade if it's needed.  

If there's anything at all in Golly definitely not hearing anything about someone who may or may not be Tom Naylor, it would be one hell of signing for us. Consistently played at a higher level than us since his loan spell and still a good age.



If there's a modicum of truth in it, it at least demonstrates we're being pretty ambitious. Really hoping we get some news this week to boost ST sales with it being payday for most of us tomorrow.


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I expect we’ll all have something official to talk about after the bank holiday weekend 🙂


How soon after the bank holiday weekend? 🤔
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How soon after the bank holiday weekend? 🤔


You didn't remember to ask which Bank Holiday weekend!  
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Matt Dean's record is WOZesque to be fair.


Ouch 😉

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How soon after the bank holiday weekend? 🤔


He meant the end of August one.
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One that will have the haters hating or foaming at the mouth with the news?


You can never please everyone 😉
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Is it time to break the bank and offer Tyler Walker an offer he can't refuse?
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Is it time to break the bank and offer Tyler Walker an offer he can't refuse?


Will Bapaga also released by Coventry. I find it slightly odd that he hasn’t made a senior appearance anywhere since his loan spell here ended. He was raw, but I thought he had talent.


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Just seen Carlisle's released list and think Tobi Sho-Silva looks like a very PH signing. Apparently a grafter and well liked by Carlisle wishing him well on his next move.


Wasn't Tobi Sho-Silva Lining a big hit for Jeff Beck? (ask your grandad kids...)


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Saw Tyler Walker released and thought it's exactly the type of marquee signing people would clamour for.

Absolute goal machine in and around this level for a fair bit, albeit done sod all for a few years now.

Can't see him as someone we would go for though.

I'd take Bapaga, thought he had that unpredictability that teams can't handle. Think it ended on a sour note with Hurst though didn't it?
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I'd take Bapaga, thought he had that unpredictability that teams can't handle. Think it ended on a sour note with Hurst though didn't it?


Officially, he was recalled by Coventry. I've no idea if something had gone on behind the scenes our end but it seems plausible given Cov did precisely nothing with him thereafter and it was just as our season was beginning to nose dive.


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Ouch 😉

I did get Emmanuel right

Haha well you've got one more than me in that case so I can't talk really!

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I'd take Bapaga, thought he had that unpredictability that teams can't handle. Think it ended on a sour note with Hurst though didn't it?

Yeah seemed to fall out of favour after that weird red card at Alty(?).
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Haha well you've got one more than me in that case so I can't talk really!


Yeah seemed to fall out of favour after that weird red card at Alty(?).


One of the weirdest red cards I’ve seen; their bloke just threw the ball at him and he was off. One of the best performances of that season, up to Bapaga’s red card.


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Wasn't Tobi Sho-Silva Lining a big hit for Jeff Beck? (ask your grandad kids...)


.....And away you go.....
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Tyler Walker will more than likely end up in league one, if he does drop to our league I doubt we will have the resources to tempt him here compared to what others could offer him.
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Tyler Walker will more than likely end up in league one, if he does drop to our league I doubt we will have the resources to tempt him here compared to what others could offer him.



You're probably right. Although I bet Notts County are very interested
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Wasn't Tobi Sho-Silva Lining a big hit for Jeff Beck? (ask your grandad kids...)


Not a chance

He’s just a (Jim) rough diamond


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I'd love Tyler Walker to come here. I have been following him the last season or so as always thought it would be someone to go for as the big signing. Think he might have had a bad injury this season and has hardly featured. Probably too expensive for us though, but it would show our intent if we went for him and got him.
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I'd love Tyler Walker to come here. I have been following him the last season or so as always thought it would be someone to go for as the big signing. Think he might have had a bad injury this season and has hardly featured. Probably too expensive for us though, but it would show our intent if we went for him and got him.


Educated guess, I think he'll end up back at Lincoln, did well on his loan there, wouldn't have to move area and a chance to rebuild his career at League 1 level.

Plus there going to lose a forward with the talk Vernam is finally coming back here.
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Lincoln are supposed to be in for Cole Stockton, be surprised if they went for both.  I get the impression that the pennies are getting pinched a bit there, perhaps some of our lurking Imps regulars can shine a light on that?

Think he was there under Appleton.  If Appleton gets a managerial job this summer, I'd imagine Walker would be one of the first he went in for.  
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Quoted from bawarmy
I'd love Tyler Walker to come here. I have been following him the last season or so as always thought it would be someone to go for as the big signing. Think he might have had a bad injury this season and has hardly featured. Probably too expensive for us though, but it would show our intent if we went for him and got him.


No injury just way down the pecking order. Viktor Gyokores, Matty Godden ahead and Cov only really play one upfront, had more of a look in from Jan when Waghorn went and went 2 up top on the odd occasion
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Can’t see Tyler Walker coming here, he’ll want top end League 1 wages and I can’t see us paying them.

Given the ‘data led’ approach I think we’ll be signing players under the radar that we’ve never heard of.


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Can’t see Tyler Walker coming here, he’ll want top end League 1 wages and I can’t see us paying them.

Given the ‘data led’ approach I think we’ll be signing players under the radar that we’ve never heard of.


Exactly this. However our budget should be improved from last year considering FA Cup. I'm not buying into the talk that all of the money has been swallowed up due to repairs. I think it's coy from JS to try lead teams we don't have alot of money and won't be overpaying for wages but I'd like to see an improved squad this year.
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Going to be over 100 pages of this i guess before we even make the first signing
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Lincoln are supposed to be in for Cole Stockton, be surprised if they went for both.  I get the impression that the pennies are getting pinched a bit there, perhaps some of our lurking Imps regulars can shine a light on that?

Think he was there under Appleton.  If Appleton gets a managerial job this summer, I'd imagine Walker would be one of the first he went in for.  


Not sure we are penny pinching but as last year, we will be sensible. The model is getting players that are not well known, young and selling for a profit - The next will be Ben House I would imagine who did very well last year and we picked him up from Eastleigh. I know a few on here thought we would struggle last year but Kennedy has done well and we finished the season in a pretty respectable position, bearing in mind the strength of League 1 last year.

The Stacey West development has now started but a lot of that has come from grants so shouldn't impact on the playing budget - I know we look regularly at the Irish League.

I am sure Vernam will leave, and maybe House (But he will go for good money), so it wouldn't be a surprise to see us get Tyler Walker and Stockton - Was our Achilles heel last year scoring goals. We will likely need to score more as our defence which was excellent last year has lost Poole who will go to the Championship and Rushworth, who was on loan from Brighton, could well be Brighton's No.2 next year.

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Quoted from fishcake63
Going to be over 100 pages of this i guess before we even make the first signing


Considering there are 13 more weeks, yes 13, of the transfer window left It makes you wonder how long this thread is going to get, especially when we actually have stuff to talk about with signings  

I do think we will get a new signing before 100 pages though (based on just a guess)


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Exactly this. However our budget should be improved from last year considering FA Cup. I'm not buying into the talk that all of the money has been swallowed up due to repairs. I think it's coy from JS to try lead teams we don't have alot of money and won't be overpaying for wages but I'd like to see an improved squad this year.


Of course it is. Around the time of the Brighton game, JS’ assertion was that the cup run simply meant that he and AP would have to put less money in themselves to cover losses. That seems a tad fanciful given the cup run was worth north of £1m to us.

The budget will have markedly increased, but I very much doubt we’ll be seeing the likes of Tyler Walker through the BP doors this summer. During his last season with a League Two club, he scored 26 goals (as a 21 year-old). He followed that up with 16 in League One in that curtailed Covid season, and has played the bulk of his football in the Championship in the time since.

Assuming no one in League One wanted him (and I find that unlikely), there are at least 10 clubs in League Two (and probably more) that are more well heeled than us at this moment in time, several of which would be more attractive geographically. For him to end up here, you basically need the whole of League One and half of League Two not be interested in him, and that’s not going to happen.

Any signings we make will be far less obvious than this, George Lloyd being a great example of the kind of under the radar business we’re likely to do. 7 or 8 players in of that standard and we’ll be doing more than alright; they just might not be as immediately or obviously exciting.


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The worst thing about the Summer is numerous unrealistic targets being spouted about.

Over the last few days i've seen that we should go in for Tyler Walker, Macaulay Langstaff and Danny Johnson, all of which are unrealistic, especially with the amount of teams that will be looking to splash the cash this season.

For players of that calibre, there will be a Wrexham, County, Bradford, MK Dons etc, who will be able to offer another £500-£1k a week. This makes it extremely difficult to attract these players, given our location aswell.
I personally thought we would get Bennett back this summer, but now after a successful half season in League 1, we can put that one down as not realistic either.

Best thing to do is wait... Hurst/Town very rarely make marque signings and I fully expect signings to be relatively unknown or from the lower leagues.

We wont be hearing much until the middle/end of June I would expect, so take some time away, go on holiday and lets see where we are in 3-4 weeks.
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We face very stiff competition for any player that is in demand, and as people have said if League 1 clubs or better off league 2 clubs are interested then it becomes extraordinarily difficult; money will always be the major factor for players who have such a short career.

We want to be sustainable so won't enter bidding wars we can't afford,  and I think the idea is to find players that are not necessarily on other clubs' radars, so I tend to agree we won't recognise most of the signings, but at least we have a strategy, but time will tell if strategy survives reality.
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Lincoln are supposed to be in for Cole Stockton, be surprised if they went for both.  I get the impression that the pennies are getting pinched a bit there, perhaps some of our lurking Imps regulars can shine a light on that?

Think he was there under Appleton.  If Appleton gets a managerial job this summer, I'd imagine Walker would be one of the first he went in for.  


Appleton is 1 of the names in the frame for the MKScum job
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Appleton is 1 of the names in the frame for the MKScum job


MK Dons appointed Graham Alexander
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Appleton is 1 of the names in the frame for the MKScum job


Alexander has already been appointed MK Dons manager.


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Not sure we are penny pinching but as last year, we will be sensible. The model is getting players that are not well known, young and selling for a profit - The next will be Ben House I would imagine who did very well last year and we picked him up from Eastleigh. I know a few on here thought we would struggle last year but Kennedy has done well and we finished the season in a pretty respectable position, bearing in mind the strength of League 1 last year.

The Stacey West development has now started but a lot of that has come from grants so shouldn't impact on the playing budget - I know we look regularly at the Irish League.

I am sure Vernam will leave, and maybe House (But he will go for good money), so it wouldn't be a surprise to see us get Tyler Walker and Stockton - Was our Achilles heel last year scoring goals. We will likely need to score more as our defence which was excellent last year has lost Poole who will go to the Championship and Rushworth, who was on loan from Brighton, could well be Brighton's No.2 next year.



Thank you.

Penny pinching was perhaps a harsh term, working smarter and sensible much better.

Interesting you wouldn't be surprised to see both Stockton and Walker be on the radar.  Both have a good pedigree at League One level and there's probably even a few lower Championship sides who will be in for them, definitely wouldn't imagine it fits in with the model of getting young unknowns in.

I was one who expected you to struggle.  Appreciate it was pre-season but you looked pretty average to say the least in that game at Blundell Park, just didn't see anything in your side to suggest you would cause teams problems at all.  Fair play to Kennedy, he got you picking up points nicely from Xmas onwards.  Be interesting to see how you go this season as the league (on paper) looks weaker without the 3 promoted clubs, who were streets above everyone, then I don't really see a major threat from the sides coming down.  Of those going up, there's a bit of money with Stockport and (to a lesser extent) Northampton but I think Orient and Stevenage will find the step-up tough just because they've not got the financial power to compete.
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The worst thing about the Summer is numerous unrealistic targets being spouted about.

Over the last few days i've seen that we should go in for Tyler Walker, Macaulay Langstaff and Danny Johnson, all of which are unrealistic, especially with the amount of teams that will be looking to splash the cash this season.

For players of that calibre, there will be a Wrexham, County, Bradford, MK Dons etc, who will be able to offer another £500-£1k a week. This makes it extremely difficult to attract these players, given our location aswell.
I personally thought we would get Bennett back this summer, but now after a successful half season in League 1, we can put that one down as not realistic either.

Best thing to do is wait... Hurst/Town very rarely make marque signings and I fully expect signings to be relatively unknown or from the lower leagues.

We wont be hearing much until the middle/end of June I would expect, so take some time away, go on holiday and lets see where we are in 3-4 weeks.


Walker & Langstaff are unrealistic, but not Johnson, surely?
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Quoted from Corkyefes
The worst thing about the Summer is numerous unrealistic targets being spouted about.

Over the last few days i've seen that we should go in for Tyler Walker, Macaulay Langstaff and Danny Johnson, all of which are unrealistic, especially with the amount of teams that will be looking to splash the cash this season.

For players of that calibre, there will be a Wrexham, County, Bradford, MK Dons etc, who will be able to offer another £500-£1k a week. This makes it extremely difficult to attract these players, given our location aswell.
I personally thought we would get Bennett back this summer, but now after a successful half season in League 1, we can put that one down as not realistic either.

Best thing to do is wait... Hurst/Town very rarely make marque signings and I fully expect signings to be relatively unknown or from the lower leagues.

We wont be hearing much until the middle/end of June I would expect, so take some time away, go on holiday and lets see where we are in 3-4 weeks.

I don't think Danny Johnson is that unrealistic, definitely not in comparison to Walker and Langstaff. Wrexham are operating on such a different plain to us that I'm not at all concerned that we're going to be going toe to toe with them. Regarding that striker/#9 too, Bradford have Cook, Oliver and Derbyshire and from what I gather they're in the market for a younger nippier forward to compliment that trio. I think in other areas of the pitch Bradford pose a threat but not for that particular one. The clubs that worry me a bit are Donny and Mansfield, I suspect we'll be up against both of them for a couple of players. Even Notts I'm not massively concerned about as their recruitment is a little more left field.

For what it's worth, I reckon Johnson will end up at Swindon with Flynn but I don't think he's way out of our budget.
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Walker had a poor loan spell at Portsmouth and tore a cruciate Iast October. He will need to rebuild his career from a lower level. Agreed v. unlikely to be us but it’s not dissimilar from the Emmanuel scenario. Could be County, he lives 15 mins walk from Meadow Lane.
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Walker had a poor loan spell at Portsmouth and tore a cruciate Iast October. He will need to rebuild his career from a lower level. Agreed v. unlikely to be us but it’s not dissimilar from the Emmanuel scenario. Could be County, he lives 15 mins walk from Meadow Lane.


Strikers very rarely have to rebuild lower down. They’re in such demand, demand out weighs supply, there are usually teams that take the risk higher up.


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If Walker was injured in October, he ought to be getting back towards full fitness at the start of the season, providing the sugery went well. Can't see him coming here. If Notts County cash in on Langstaff, they might have the funds to sign him. Nottingham to Lincoln isn't a huge commute, either.
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I don’t have much inside info to share but I do know there’s some ridiculous names being banded about.

The only bit of info I do have to share is that Dallas & Andy Smith are absolute non starters apparently.
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He tore his ACL, which is a far less (although still bloody painful) serious injury than a full rupture (grade 3 tear).  He was back playing 21 days after the initial injury.

Walker is 26.
In League Two he's got 25 from 52 games (a goal every 172 minutes)
In League One he's got 18 from 56 games (a goal every 204 minutes)

Even at Championship level where he's struggled to get a consistent run of games he's a goal every 295 minutes, over the course of a full season that's 14 goals at that level.

He's just been released by a team that came within a whisper of reaching the Premier League.


There will definitely be clubs higher up the chain and with bigger budgets than us already on the phone to his agent.  

Rule this one out guys, as nice as it would be.
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Thank you.

Penny pinching was perhaps a harsh term, working smarter and sensible much better.

Interesting you wouldn't be surprised to see both Stockton and Walker be on the radar.  Both have a good pedigree at League One level and there's probably even a few lower Championship sides who will be in for them, definitely wouldn't imagine it fits in with the model of getting young unknowns in.

I was one who expected you to struggle.  Appreciate it was pre-season but you looked pretty average to say the least in that game at Blundell Park, just didn't see anything in your side to suggest you would cause teams problems at all.  Fair play to Kennedy, he got you picking up points nicely from Xmas onwards.  Be interesting to see how you go this season as the league (on paper) looks weaker without the 3 promoted clubs, who were streets above everyone, then I don't really see a major threat from the sides coming down.  Of those going up, there's a bit of money with Stockport and (to a lesser extent) Northampton but I think Orient and Stevenage will find the step-up tough just because they've not got the financial power to compete.


Stockport would have had a bloody good season if they’re troubling teams in L1 next season.
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Yep. Complete brain fart that Carlisle went up instead!  
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Quoted from pontoonlew
I don’t have much inside info to share but I do know there’s some ridiculous names being banded about.

The only bit of info I do have to share is that Dallas & Andy Smith are absolute non starters apparently.


Ridiculous on here or potential targets within the Club?
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Thank you.

Penny pinching was perhaps a harsh term, working smarter and sensible much better.

Interesting you wouldn't be surprised to see both Stockton and Walker be on the radar.  Both have a good pedigree at League One level and there's probably even a few lower Championship sides who will be in for them, definitely wouldn't imagine it fits in with the model of getting young unknowns in.

I was one who expected you to struggle.  Appreciate it was pre-season but you looked pretty average to say the least in that game at Blundell Park, just didn't see anything in your side to suggest you would cause teams problems at all.  Fair play to Kennedy, he got you picking up points nicely from Xmas onwards.  Be interesting to see how you go this season as the league (on paper) looks weaker without the 3 promoted clubs, who were streets above everyone, then I don't really see a major threat from the sides coming down.  Of those going up, there's a bit of money with Stockport and (to a lesser extent) Northampton but I think Orient and Stevenage will find the step-up tough just because they've not got the financial power to compete.


From things I have seen and read we need more goals - Unfortunately you have to pay, usually, for that in football. Stockton, I don't see the hype but he does know where the net is - Walker is a good player and obviously lives near Nottingham so 40 minutes down the road.

The league definitely feels a more level playing field - I think Carlisle, Orient and Northampton will find the step up too big - Hopefully Kennedy can replace what we have lost, and find what we didn't have - I would take a similar finish to last year and a cup run like yours!

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Alexander has already been appointed MK Dons manager.


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Ridiculous on here or potential targets within the Club?


Just on here, I’d love us to be after Walker/Naylor but they’re very unrealistic IMO.

What makes them more unrealistic, in my eyes, is listening to Gareth Jennings on BBC talking about his role within recruitment. Id imagine ‘big names’ are out of the window and some shrewd signings based on a deep dive into data as well as their personalities are the way forward. Naylor/Walker would go against that and it makes me slightly more relaxed about our summer now.

I think this could potentially be the most exciting time to be a Town fan in our history and the summer might just be the start of it (which is mad given the achievements in the past 2 years).
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As said previously well out of our range, Bristol rovers looking likely for Tyler walker


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Just on here, I’d love us to be after Walker/Naylor but they’re very unrealistic IMO.

What makes them more unrealistic, in my eyes, is listening to Gareth Jennings on BBC talking about his role within recruitment. Id imagine ‘big names’ are out of the window and some shrewd signings based on a deep dive into data as well as their personalities are the way forward. Naylor/Walker would go against that and it makes me slightly more relaxed about our summer now.

I think this could potentially be the most exciting time to be a Town fan in our history and the summer might just be the start of it (which is mad given the achievements in the past 2 years).


Jennings was very coy when it came to recruitment wasn't he?  Can tell he's spent a lot of time as a consultant, lots of words but didn't really say much.

He went out his way to state that he wasn't there to interfere with Hurst and Doig and also referenced Joe Hutchinson's role too.  I can't remember the exact phrase he used but it was something about the make up of the squad, which I thought was really interesting.  Crossing threads a bit but having had a day to process his interview, I think we're doing to see very little of Jennings but what he will do is make the right connections for us, linking us in with people who can do the things to move us forward rather than him doing it himself.

I agree, very exciting and very eager to see who we bring in based on a different approach.
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Walker & Langstaff are unrealistic, but not Johnson, surely?


For me, a player who's scored one goal in every 2.7 games (English leagues only) and is currently out of contract, at a decent age of 30, will probably be out of our reach, in my opinion.

Obviously I would love to be proven wrong.

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Walker had a poor loan spell at Portsmouth and tore a cruciate Iast October. He will need to rebuild his career from a lower level. Agreed v. unlikely to be us but it’s not dissimilar from the Emmanuel scenario. Could be County, he lives 15 mins walk from Meadow Lane.


25 with a cruciate. It's the limp.


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As said previously well out of our range, Bristol rovers looking likely for Tyler walker


Think Bristol Rovers will go back for Josh Coburn from Middlesbrough too, having done so well there last season and a place in the Boro team looking unlikely, but if not, would love us to go for him.


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Think Bristol Rovers will go back for Josh Coburn from Middlesbrough too, having done so well there last season and a place in the Boro team looking unlikely, but if not, would love us to go for him.


We tried to get coburn on loan just before he went to brizzle and he knocked us back, shame because he would be unreal at our level


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I don’t have much inside info to share but I do know there’s some ridiculous names being banded about.

The only bit of info I do have to share is that Dallas & Andy Smith are absolute non starters apparently.


Big shame about Smith if that’s true. Personally I’d be surprised if we DON’T sign him, so we’ll see.

Dallas can go ‘do one’, quite frankly.
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Not too bothered about dallas he will end up at chesterfield i think , smith be a massive loss we will struggle to see one with as much potential as him in a town shirt
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Blackburn, Bristol City and Huddersfield all in for Poole apparently.

I think we've more chance of escaping a Michael Barrymore pool.


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Quoted from pontoonlew
I don’t have much inside info to share but I do know there’s some ridiculous names being banded about.

The only bit of info I do have to share is that Dallas & Andy Smith are absolute non starters apparently.


Is Martin Waghorn a potential recruit? Released by Coventry, still plenty of life left in him. Might be a stellar signing, but also maybe just what we need.



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Is Martin Waghorn a potential recruit? Released by Coventry, still plenty of life left in him. Might be a stellar signing, but also maybe just what we need.



Likely to be on about 8-10 times what we would pay. People need to get real.
Look at brentford  brighton  luton recruitment,  that's the road we are going down. They dont do 'household nzmes' , they do under the radar value, a la Lloyd
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We haven't all of a sudden become a really attractive proposition. We're laying the foundations for future success and ultimately still playing catch up to what a professional club should look like. I can't believe some of the names being thrown about. I can't imagine the transfer window looking much different to usual, and that's not being pessimistic because I think Hurst normally does a decent job.




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Preseason games penned in. I’m guessing we will se a couple at least in next week.
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Been told we are in for Shaq Forde from a lad at work who supports York
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I believe that potential for full season fitness, good passing ability, and no dressing room disruption could be as important to the management team as pure speed and physique.

Several teams have shown us up with possession football, bullying and harassing of players, along with speed on both flanks against any of the full backs.

Someone like Agyei of Crewe on the wing could be a newer version of Souza, but with far better end product. Crowds like to see a fast player who can go at defenders at pace. As good and versatile as Harry is, pure raw pace from a dead start is not his strong point, whereas you would struggle to find a harder working player in several positions.

Is there another non league dynamo like Cockerill to be found?

Who will emerge as the next Andy Smith if that is dead in the water?

Are the team looking to replace the Taylor / McAtee pairing as a like for like, or just change the way they play up front?

Season 2 in this league will be harder, as the fans will be looking for a higher finish, better home form, and some idea of training ground progress and the next phase of the big picture.

Recruitment in this summer transfer session will set how many season tickets fly out, and 6,000 at home must be regarded as a realistic and ongoing fan base.
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Been told we are in for Shaq Forde from a lad at work who supports York


19, averaged a goal in every other games in the league below for team who finished  19th.... Would be a good signing on paper
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19, averaged a goal in every other games in the league below for team who finished  19th.... Would be a good signing on paper


Best ask Watford who he’s contracted to.
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Best ask Watford who he’s contracted to.


Would be a loan move as he's rated very highly there, apparently they enquired about having him back for the season and they said he's L2 bound. The guy has also now revealed his source to be Guy Mowbray.. York City fan so make of it what you will  
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He seems to be right, Shaq Forde and Jessie Debrah both being linked to us


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Heard were after 2 players from Halifax, guessing Debrah is one but not sure on the other.


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Will be Millenic Alli at a guess.
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MK Dons fan on TFF reckons them and Barrow are also keen on Forde.
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Heard were after 2 players from Halifax, guessing Debrah is one but not sure on the other.


Got to be Mani!

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Will be Millenic Alli at a guess.


Alli looks a great prospect. We were linked with him in Jan, and he’s scored another 10 since then. Tricky little wide player with a decent end product by the looks of it. 23 years old.


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Got to be Mani!



I would have Mani back in a heartbeat, but didn't he and PH part on less than amicable terms, as Mani wanted to be 1st on the team sheet but PH said no?  Also, are we still looking at National League players, I thought we might be looking a little higher up the pyramid now we have a little bit of extra cash?

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I would have Mani back in a heartbeat, but didn't he and PH part on less than amicable terms, as Mani wanted to be 1st on the team sheet but PH said no?  Also, are we still looking at National League players, I thought we might be looking a little higher up the pyramid now we have a little bit of extra cash?



I think it will probably be  a mixture of relatively proven league players , a couple of the better NL players and then a contrasting quality of loan signings from higher up.

I can't see us being in for any relatively 'big ones ' just players in the main ,on an upward trajectory who fit into a longer term plan than just next season ; based on what everyone at the club has said .
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Lionel Messi: Argentine set for decision on future - and it won't be Barcelona
By Guillem Balague
Spanish football writer


He's not staying at PSG, he's not off to Barca........... and I don't want to start rumours that will be printed in the telewag BUT our latest adviser is well acquainted with the middle east and rumour has it was telling him to come to Grimsby whilst loading his agent/dad up on Jagerbombs during the unsanctioned trip to Saudi that saw him suspended recently.  Upon Messi's return to PSG he reportedly told Galtier 'p!ss on you, I'm working for Paul Hurst'*


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Debrah from matches i have seen of Halifax on BT Sports he's looked good, certainly stood out alot more than the other players.




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Debrah from matches i have seen of Halifax on BT Sports he's looked good, certainly stood out alot more than the other players.


Hurst definitely been in contact with him. In fact, his WhatsApp messages to him have been leaked:

Oh, what are you doing Sunday, baby?
Would you like to come and meet me, maybe?
You can even bring your baby
Ooh ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh
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Debrah, Alli and Forde could be the start of our lower level version of the Brighton signing concept.

Younger eager players who want to improve and be on the way up.

We already have Khouri and Braithwaite as the next "ones of our own", as they hopefully progress.

I think that Essel and Tomlinson will have to be loaned out to the next higher league in order to harden up for full time "men's" football.

I also hope that the recruitment team are looking at U23 level released players who may have only played against similar aged players, not the hardened journeymen in reserve team fixtures.

I've always wondered whether trial matches are effective in drawing potential recruits nowadays, with the vast plethora of player show reels.
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Debrah, Alli and Forde could be the start of our lower level version of the Brighton signing concept.

Younger eager players who want to improve and be on the way up.

We already have Khouri and Braithwaite as the next "ones of our own", as they hopefully progress


We don't need too many players like that though. Although, on the face of it, this is a strange mix of players I'm going to mention, I'll explain my thinking.

Last season we had Michee, Glennon, Amos, Green, Hunt, even Maher, all of whom played a lot of games but have very little experience of League football. Either they're young players learning the game or players who've only ever been non-league before. I'm hoping for various degrees of improvement from all of those mentioned next season. However, if we sign another 3-4 like that in the summer, we'll just have a different set of players learning the game and we won't actually get any better. We need to make sure the players we poach from non-league are actually the best available.


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Told Forde is all but done, still unsure if it's a loan or permanently but would expect it to be a loan given how highly he's rated.
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Told Forde is all but done, still unsure if it's a loan or permanently but would expect it to be a loan given how highly he's rated.


If true and we do beat other clubs to his  signature (albeit on loan maybe) I wonder how much is down to the relationship with Watford when selling Mattie P.




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A few Halifax opinions on Debrah...

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Debrah is quality. Big, strong. Commanding. A real leader even at the age of just 23. He's out of contract but as long as we've offered a deal we'll get a fee even if it's small through a tribunal.

Basically turned Into your feeder club this last couple of seasons


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Debrah was at his best alongside Maher you’ll be pleased to know. Quick, strong, decent in the air. Definitely good enough for FL. Improve his ability on the ball and he’ll go even higher imo.


And a York one on Forde...

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Forde is a great finisher, left footed with a bit of pace. Can go missing in games as expected of a teenager and his attitude looked a bit suspect at times but his goals kept us up and I'd rather have him than not
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Jon Nolan released from Tranmere Rovers...link up with Hurst again?
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Jon Nolan released from Tranmere Rovers...link up with Hurst again?


He’s crocked, sadly.


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I think even with Hurst's history of going for what he knows, a fourth signing of Jon Nolan would be pushing it.

Shame how his career has just fizzled out through injuries.
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How many games has Jon Nolan played in the last three years? Great player but he’s finished sadly
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Quoted from Mappers


I think it will probably be  a mixture of relatively proven league players , a couple of the better NL players and then a contrasting quality of loan signings from higher up.

I can't see us being in for any relatively 'big ones ' just players in the main ,on an upward trajectory who fit into a longer term plan than just next season ; based on what everyone at the club has said .


I agree with this and I am not so sure that there is nothing to be lost looking at NL players either. I am certainly not sure where all the worry comes from. Off the top of my head the starting line up in 1989 would have looked something like this...

Steve Sherwood - FA Cup finalist so quite a big signing
John McDermott - youth team
Paul Agnew - Cliftonville
Mark Lever - youth team
Andy Tillson - Kettering
Gary Childs - Birmingham but mainly played at Walsall (who were pretty much above us in that time but hardly a household name)
Shaun Cunnington - Wrexham (below us in the run up to us signing him)
John Cockerill - Stafford Rangers
Dave Gilbert - Northampton (mainly below us but above us when we bought him, before that Boston)
Tony Rees - Barnsley
Keith Alexander - Barnet and pretty much every non-league East Midlands team!
Garry Birtles - quite a coup!
Kevin Jobling - bought as a 19 year old from Leicester
Chris Hargreaves - home grown although did his YT at Everton
Tommy Watson - youth team

So pretty much a team of non-league, journeymen or youth teamers and considered to be one of our greatest ever squads? Get a team to buy into an image and play together then it doesn't matter who we've got - this is what I think we are aiming for.

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I agree with this and I am not so sure that there is nothing to be lost looking at NL players either. I am certainly not sure where all the worry comes from. Off the top of my head the starting line up in 1989 would have looked something like this...

Steve Sherwood - FA Cup finalist so quite a big signing
John McDermott - youth team
Paul Agnew - Cliftonville
Mark Lever - youth team
Andy Tillson - Kettering
Gary Childs - Birmingham but mainly played at Walsall (who were pretty much above us in that time but hardly a household name)
Shaun Cunnington - Wrexham (below us in the run up to us signing him)
John Cockerill - Stafford Rangers
Dave Gilbert - Northampton (mainly below us but above us when we bought him, before that Boston)
Tony Rees - Barnsley
Keith Alexander - Barnet and pretty much every non-league East Midlands team!
Garry Birtles - quite a coup!
Kevin Jobling - bought as a 19 year old from Leicester
Chris Hargreaves - home grown although did his YT at Everton
Tommy Watson - youth team

So pretty much a team of non-league, journeymen or youth teamers and considered to be one of our greatest ever squads? Get a team to buy into an image and play together then it doesn't matter who we've got - this is what I think we are aiming for.



It’s not 1989 anymore. It’s 2023. Football has changed.
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It's not about what level there at, or age, but whether they are good enough for what we need, hungry to come, good fit, and affordable.
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A lot of players from the NL are being talked about in this thread, if you look at the https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1685142422/ thread you will see that NOT ONE of the players signed were signed from a NL club.
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So, we were lucky to find George Lloyd, who obviously had something about him.

Emmanuel did a job in the short term.

If the aim for any loanees is out of favour or part risk / playing back to fitness types, then we will need continued lucky picks.

For permanent signings at reasonable cost, the search must cover several league and non league levels, with the new data based research coming into play.

For me - personally, Lloyd is well worth a chase and bid if needed.

The 2 from Halifax and t'other from York would be regarded as development players, but if they clicked / gelled earlier, after a full pre season and then the friendlies, it could be really good business.

Verham - who knows?

Keeper (s) - any ideas on possible decent keepers ?

Some reasonable guesses starting to flow !

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The danny rose one keeps getting mentioned then i look & he under contract so presume that's a no go
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Quoted from GollyGTFC


It’s not 1989 anymore. It’s 2023. Football has changed.


Yes and No.

The nature of the game from a business perspective and society in general suggests that being able to replicate the origins of that squad isn't quite as simplistic as it might sound. Although I'm sure wages would have been important to any footballer back then, I'd suggest that the disparity between top level and L2 (equivalent) wouldn't have been so vast back then, nor would the extent of the difference wealthy owners at this level distort the playing field in terms of attraction to players on a financial footing.

I'd say that back then location would have been important to a player too, but I'd argue in todays fast pace society and the desire for many folks to showcase their great lives, Grimsby doesn't really fit the narrative for those players to whom that applies, of course that isn't a hard and fast rule but I think we've discussed before what attraction Grimsby has against the big cities.

The above are reasons why it isn't quite so easy to apply the 1989 situation and assume it will work today.

However, football is nothing but a game of principles. Its how the game keeps evolving and how certain managers create new ways of playing to success. When you have possession of the ball, how do you create and exploit space to create opportunities to ultimately score. When you don't have the ball, how do you deny space and the opposition progressing. That hasn't and won't ever change, just the manner in how you do it does.

With that in mind, if we're able to attract players from non-league who are capable with a ball and understand what is being asked of them in and out of possession and can follow that instruction then I would argue it is entirely possible to build a team of players with minimal league experience. It of course certainly helps to have players that have an added level about them and you then refer back to para 1&2 for the increased difficulty to attract in todays age than 1989 but I genuinely believe it is possible to achieve.

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I think up top is critical to how we fare .
Last season-  
Orsi
Lloyd
Mcatee
Taylor

Next season
-Orsi
-Lloyd? (Hopefully)
-Can we get a Mcatee type if not better in quality  ,who will influence games and play more minutes?
-Can we get a younger version of Taylor who plays more games ;who might chip in with more goals ?

I think those questions may well determine how well we do next time out.
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I think up top is critical to how we fare .
Last season-  
Orsi
Lloyd
Mcatee
Taylor

Next season
-Orsi
-Lloyd? (Hopefully)
-Can we get a Mcatee type if not better in quality  ,who will influence games and play more minutes?
-Can we get a younger version of Taylor who plays more games ;who might chip in with more goals ?

I think those questions may well determine how well we do next time out.


Can we get better wide players than we had last season? In particular than having no wide players in the second half of the season. I can't help but feel making the pitch wider, with more threats from out wide will just generally make us harder to play against.


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Can we get better wide players than we had last season? In particular than having no wide players in the second half of the season. I can't help but feel making the pitch wider, with more threats from out wide will just generally make us harder to play against.


I would say normally it would be a priority but with Hurst's preference for work rate  over style in the wide areas I can't see us recruiting a few out and out wingers -we have Khan who has decent technical abiility and workrate, probably Hurst's ideal wideman if he was a bit better defensively .I suspect Clifton will be used as a LM/RM to , as  playing in a four it's obvious Hurst prefers him there (I am assuming we're going back to a variation of 4-4-2 or 4-3-3)

So we will probably get 2 in I would have thought - I don't expect 2 flying wingers from arr Paul .

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I think we’ll see a 4-1-4-1 formation next season.
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     4-1-4-1  Crocombe ?
Efete Waterfall Maher Amos/Glennon
                     Green
Clifton  Holahan     Khouri       Khan
                        ?
                      

Although that team isn't the one we will start with (or I would want us to)

It shows what a decent base we already have ,we just need to make the right additions that take what would be a lower end mid table side to a play-off contender minimum .
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I reckon if we’re looking at NL, players like Liam mandeville (chesterfield)  Nicky kabamba (Barnet) etc could be persuaded to leave to play league football. Those players getting twitchy feet and wanting to ply their trade back in the league


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Been told we are in for Shaq Forde from a lad at work who supports York


I'm sure we'll all Love Shaq if he comes here.


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I'm sure we'll all Love Shaq if he comes here.


Does his mate have a season ticket row B seat 52 ?


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     4-1-4-1  Crocombe ?
Efete Waterfall Maher Amos
                     Green
Clifton  Holahan     Khouri       Glennon
                       Khan
                      Orsi  

Although that team isn't the one we will start with (or I would want us to)

It shows what a decent base we already have ,we just need to make the right additions that take what would be a lower end mid table side to a play-off contender minimum .


intercourse it, may as well chuck Lloyd in there too:
                Crocombe
Efete    Waterfall     Maher   Amos
                     Green
Clifton  Holahan     Khouri    Glennon
                       Khan
                  Lloyd  Orsi  


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Lol one of our regulars pointed that out to me , i edited it - we would be champions with 15 players and 5 up top !
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Yes and No.

The nature of the game from a business perspective and society in general suggests that being able to replicate the origins of that squad isn't quite as simplistic as it might sound. Although I'm sure wages would have been important to any footballer back then, I'd suggest that the disparity between top level and L2 (equivalent) wouldn't have been so vast back then, nor would the extent of the difference wealthy owners at this level distort the playing field in terms of attraction to players on a financial footing.

I'd say that back then location would have been important to a player too, but I'd argue in todays fast pace society and the desire for many folks to showcase their great lives, Grimsby doesn't really fit the narrative for those players to whom that applies, of course that isn't a hard and fast rule but I think we've discussed before what attraction Grimsby has against the big cities.

The above are reasons why it isn't quite so easy to apply the 1989 situation and assume it will work today.

However, football is nothing but a game of principles. Its how the game keeps evolving and how certain managers create new ways of playing to success. When you have possession of the ball, how do you create and exploit space to create opportunities to ultimately score. When you don't have the ball, how do you deny space and the opposition progressing. That hasn't and won't ever change, just the manner in how you do it does.

With that in mind, if we're able to attract players from non-league who are capable with a ball and understand what is being asked of them in and out of possession and can follow that instruction then I would argue it is entirely possible to build a team of players with minimal league experience. It of course certainly helps to have players that have an added level about them and you then refer back to para 1&2 for the increased difficulty to attract in todays age than 1989 but I genuinely believe it is possible to achieve.



An interesting post but on that basis I hope we ask them are you happy to come to Grimsby before we do the extensive groundwork, the scouting, the data analysis, and background checks to see whether he might be a good fit...  

Personally, I don't think location affects us any more than anywhere else bearing in mind players don't have a smorgasbord of exotic places to choose from in League 2, and they might have a couple of concrete offers if they are lucky to choose between, and even then a whole host of considerations come into play.
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I agree with this and I am not so sure that there is nothing to be lost looking at NL players either. I am certainly not sure where all the worry comes from. Off the top of my head the starting line up in 1989 would have looked something like this...

Steve Sherwood - FA Cup finalist so quite a big signing
John McDermott - youth team
Paul Agnew - Cliftonville
Mark Lever - youth team
Andy Tillson - Kettering
Gary Childs - Birmingham but mainly played at Walsall (who were pretty much above us in that time but hardly a household name)
Shaun Cunnington - Wrexham (below us in the run up to us signing him)
John Cockerill - Stafford Rangers
Dave Gilbert - Northampton (mainly below us but above us when we bought him, before that Boston)
Tony Rees - Barnsley
Keith Alexander - Barnet and pretty much every non-league East Midlands team!
Garry Birtles - quite a coup!
Kevin Jobling - bought as a 19 year old from Leicester
Chris Hargreaves - home grown although did his YT at Everton
Tommy Watson - youth team

So pretty much a team of non-league, journeymen or youth teamers and considered to be one of our greatest ever squads? Get a team to buy into an image and play together then it doesn't matter who we've got - this is what I think we are aiming for.



I agree but back in 1989, nearly all the players lived in Grimsby after signing for us (maybe not Birtles or Sherwood, but dont quote me on that), when Grimsby was a slightly nicer place to live. Now we just seem to have a team full of, quite literally, journeymen who travel from far and wide to come and train and play for us without committing to moving here.
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Shaq Forde appears to have annoyed some of the Watford fan base by liking a tweet congratulating Luton Town on their promotion.
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Shaq Forde appears to have annoyed some of the Watford fan base by liking a tweet congratulating Luton Town on their promotion.


Shaq sounds like a basket case
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An interesting post but on that basis I hope we ask them are you happy to come to Grimsby before we do the extensive groundwork, the scouting, the data analysis, and background checks to see whether he might be a good fit...  

Personally, I don't think location affects us any more than anywhere else bearing in mind players don't have a smorgasbord of exotic places to choose from in League 2, and they might have a couple of concrete offers if they are lucky to choose between, and even then a whole host of considerations come into play.


I'm not so much suggesting or bringing up the old location debate again, I'm citing the difference between then and now where location is concerned and how it might weigh on a players decision in the modern era in comparison to the old.

I was 4 in 1989 so can't really speak with my own personal experience of the culture of that era, but as someone posted, players tended to be more local or move locally so that they had a base to where they played. I'd hazard a guess (based on nothing but a hunch) that players served a club longer on average than today which could explain why players would be more willing to move to the area (or any area for that matter).

Strip away any personal viewpoints of the entertainment or social media aesthetics that young and upcoming footballers may hold and focus on the factual nature of shorter contracts, high turnover of players in the lower levels coupled with players looking for the best salary possible means that they might choose not to uproot and move to a location 'out on a limb' for only a short period of time before the inevitability that they'll end up moving on within a few years at most.

That part of what I said was actually agreeing with what Golly had said in terms of football moving on, the motivation and factors a player used to make his contractual decisions are likely to be very different today, so it isn't a simplistic thought that we can 'just' do the same. It probably isn't an argument that needs to be pointed out as I think everyone is aware of this, but as I said 'Yes and No' in reply, my logic gave a need to provide a reason to the Yes part.

The 'No' part of my argument however was that the football side doesn't change and all you need are players who are capable with a ball, understand the instruction of the coach in and out of possession and can carry it out on the pitch. Our location won't exclude us from finding players capable of doing that, which is why I'm not outright trying to suggest we can't get the players we need because of it and providing the footballing side of the argument that we could replicate the 1989 successes utilising a good blend of non-league, experience and youth players.
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Will be Millenic Alli at a guess.


We’re definitely in for Alli.
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I agree but back in 1989, nearly all the players lived in Grimsby after signing for us (maybe not Birtles or Sherwood, but dont quote me on that), when Grimsby was a slightly nicer place to live. Now we just seem to have a team full of, quite literally, journeymen who travel from far and wide to come and train and play for us without committing to moving here.


I think, unfortunately, this is the way of the current culture among players, given that they only get short contracts (3 years if lucky ). You only have to look at Barrow and wonder how many live in or near the town.



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We’re definitely in for Alli.


WTF. The guy hasn’t even got a Wikipedia page!
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Alli has some talant but is a very lazy player...  He drifts in and of games (more out than in).  I am not sure he is a PH type player...   If he has gone in for him i would be very suprised...   Debrah is the leading light at Halifax but is wanted by many other clubs who will pay more...
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Think I mentioned Debrah in the early pages of this thread as a potential target of PH's. Good, dominant centre half who's at a team we have done business with in the past and seem to have a good relationship with (Halifax). Will know former team-mates Maher and Green. Had 2 good years in the National League now and rightfully deserves a Football League move, I don't think teams will be coming in to make him their highest earner as he's not a star signing as some would say. I think this is a realistic one for us alongside Chadwick.
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OK let's look at another of our greatest sides;

1998

Davison - Higher pedigree than third tier.
McDermott - Existing player
Gallimore - Existing player
Lever - Existing player
Handyside - Existing player
Donovan - £300,000 signing - higher pedigree than third tier
Groves - £250,000 signing - returning signing with a much higher pedigree than third tier
Burnett - £100,000 signing - considerably higher pedigree than third tier
Dave Smith - £200,000 signing - another with a much higher pedigree than third tier. England U-21 cap and FA Cup winner
Jack Lester - Existing player
Lee Nogan - £100,000 signing, higher pedigree than third tier.

You've then got the likes of Livvo, Kinglsey Black, Daryl Clare, Kev Jobling, Tommy Widdrington who all made huge contributions as players who were already in the building.

The bulk of that squad were relegated in the previous season.  Yet Buckley stuck with the core and added quality from higher levels.  Not one signing who came in and improved us came from either the same level or the level below.  A complete contrast to his previous promotions.

You go to the last Town side that competed for promotion in the fourth tier in 2006

Steve Mildenhall - Higher level
Gary Croft - Higher level
Macca - Existing
Tom Newey - Same level
Rob Jones - Lower level
Justin Whittle - Same level
Simon Ramsden - Higher level
Paul Bolland - Higher level
JPK - French leagues
Ciaran Toner - Same level
Andy Parkinson - Higher level
Michael Reddy - Higher level
Gary Jones - Higher level

Not one player came from the level below.  But we've also had some great signings in more recent years that have come from the levels below.  McKeown, Pearson, Hearn, Bogle...they complimented those with some pedigree at higher levels like Disley and Amond and then those that were competitive at the same level like Arnold, Monkhouse etc.  

The cut and short of it is you need a mix, I reckon if you looked at the sides that get promoted year in-year out they show the same mixture of established players, players that offer something from the levels above and then those that are upcoming through the levels.

At the minute I think we've probably got a lack of those with experience and pedigree from higher levels.  There's the likes of Glennon and Hunt who have come from good stock but never made a mark at a higher level.  Most of the squad have never played at a higher level than the fourth tier.  There's something about bringing people in who can drag/guide the others to the next level.  Garry Birtles and Paul Futcher helped with that in the first Buckley success, there was an abundance of it in 1998.  I'm not advocating we sign every Tom, male private and Harry who's played 50 or more games at League One, but we need that know-how and knowledge to compliment the rest of the squad.
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OK let's look at another of our greatest sides;

1998

Davison - Higher pedigree than third tier.
McDermott - Existing player
Gallimore - Existing player
Lever - Existing player
Handyside - Existing player
Donovan - £300,000 signing - higher pedigree than third tier
Groves - £250,000 signing - returning signing with a much higher pedigree than third tier
Burnett - £100,000 signing - considerably higher pedigree than third tier
Dave Smith - £200,000 signing - another with a much higher pedigree than third tier. England U-21 cap and FA Cup winner
Jack Lester - Existing player
Lee Nogan - £100,000 signing, higher pedigree than third tier.

You've then got the likes of Livvo, Kinglsey Black, Daryl Clare, Kev Jobling, Tommy Widdrington who all made huge contributions as players who were already in the building.

The bulk of that squad were relegated in the previous season.  Yet Buckley stuck with the core and added quality from higher levels.  Not one signing who came in and improved us came from either the same level or the level below.  A complete contrast to his previous promotions.

You go to the last Town side that competed for promotion in the fourth tier in 2006

Steve Mildenhall - Higher level
Gary Croft - Higher level
Macca - Existing
Tom Newey - Same level
Rob Jones - Lower level
Justin Whittle - Same level
Simon Ramsden - Higher level
Paul Bolland - Higher level
JPK - French leagues
Ciaran Toner - Same level
Andy Parkinson - Higher level
Michael Reddy - Higher level
Gary Jones - Higher level

Not one player came from the level below.  But we've also had some great signings in more recent years that have come from the levels below.  McKeown, Pearson, Hearn, Bogle...they complimented those with some pedigree at higher levels like Disley and Amond and then those that were competitive at the same level like Arnold, Monkhouse etc.  

The cut and short of it is you need a mix, I reckon if you looked at the sides that get promoted year in-year out they show the same mixture of established players, players that offer something from the levels above and then those that are upcoming through the levels.

At the minute I think we've probably got a lack of those with experience and pedigree from higher levels.  There's the likes of Glennon and Hunt who have come from good stock but never made a mark at a higher level.  Most of the squad have never played at a higher level than the fourth tier.  There's something about bringing people in who can drag/guide the others to the next level.  Garry Birtles and Paul Futcher helped with that in the first Buckley success, there was an abundance of it in 1998.  I'm not advocating we sign every Tom, male private and Harry who's played 50 or more games at League One, but we need that know-how and knowledge to compliment the rest of the squad.


Didn’t we sign Rob Jones from Stockport? Weren’t they in L1 then?
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something about bringing people in who can drag/guide the others to the next level.  Garry Birtles and Paul Futcher helped with that in the first Buckley success, there was an abundance of it in 1998.  I'm not advocating we sign every Tom, male private and Harry who's played 50 or more games at League One, but we need that know-how and knowledge to compliment the rest of the squad.
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Alli has some talant but is a very lazy player...  He drifts in and of games (more out than in).  I am not sure he is a PH type player...   If he has gone in for him i would be very suprised....



I recall exactly the same being said about Jon Nolan and John McAtee.

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I recall exactly the same being said about Jon Nolan and John McAtee.



I think the surprising thing if it’s true about his game (never seen him play) is that he’s a winger. I can barely name you a creative winger that I’ve seen succeed under Hurst without being the ‘workhorse’ type.
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I think the surprising thing if it’s true about his game (never seen him play) is that he’s a winger. I can barely name you a creative winger that I’ve seen succeed under Hurst without being the ‘workhorse’ type.


In an age of attacking full-backs and overlapping centre-backs if a winger (or any offensive minded player for that matter) isn’t willing to be a “workhorse” and do his defensive work then he won’t have a very long career in professional football at any level. Paul Hurst isn’t unique in not tolerating JMD type laziness/unwillingness.
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Didn’t we sign Rob Jones from Stockport? Weren’t they in L1 then?


Yep, well spotted.  He played a handful of games as they finished just above us that season.  Had we grabbed a point in the game late on at their place, we would have stayed up at their expense.
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I think the surprising thing if it’s true about his game (never seen him play) is that he’s a winger. I can barely name you a creative winger that I’ve seen succeed under Hurst without being the ‘workhorse’ type.


Neilson and Rodman are probably the two i'd put in this category but it's been some time since we've had a winger that gets you really off your feet.
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Neilson was a player I loved to watch but I don't think he succeeded under Hurst, in fact he was often the one who was sacrificed as soon as Hurst wanted a more structured and disciplined approach.

Rodman is a good shout, but I think he did more graft than he got credit for.  His style was just quite languid so I think he looked not as willing to do the dirty work as he actually was.

Nathan Arnold was the winger Hurst dreams about in his sleep.  Got plenty in his locker to create but more than happy to get his hands dirty too.  In fairness, Sousa wasn't unwilling to help out either but he just didn't have anywhere near the level of end product that Arnold had or that you need to succeed.
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Neilson was a player I loved to watch but I don't think he succeeded under Hurst, in fact he was often the one who was sacrificed as soon as Hurst wanted a more structured and disciplined approach.

Rodman is a good shout, but I think he did more graft than he got credit for.  His style was just quite languid so I think he looked not as willing to do the dirty work as he actually was.

Nathan Arnold was the winger Hurst dreams about in his sleep.  Got plenty in his locker to create but more than happy to get his hands dirty too.  In fairness, Sousa wasn't unwilling to help out either but he just didn't have anywhere near the level of end product that Arnold had or that you need to succeed.


I think Scotty was probably the best winger i've seen us have in a fair few years technically, he was unbelievable and I think that co-incided with us playing our best stuff in the conference. I remember us beating Barnet here 3-1 when they were flying under Davids. Scott and Aswad ripped them to shreds down our left hand side. Off the field issues caught up with Scott and even more so recently, fingers in too many pies but I definitely think he was a success here.
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Rodman never stopped running all game so, even if he wasn't the best defensively, he'd always be there in the way to help out to some degree. He was a very much underrated player for us and it was disappointing the way he left. Would have liked to have seen him stay for another year.
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I dont give a toss if they come from local sunday league as long as they end up being decent.

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Neilson was a player I loved to watch but I don't think he succeeded under Hurst, in fact he was often the one who was sacrificed as soon as Hurst wanted a more structured and disciplined approach.

Rodman is a good shout, but I think he did more graft than he got credit for.  His style was just quite languid so I think he looked not as willing to do the dirty work as he actually was.

Nathan Arnold was the winger Hurst dreams about in his sleep.  Got plenty in his locker to create but more than happy to get his hands dirty too.  In fairness, Sousa wasn't unwilling to help out either but he just didn't have anywhere near the level of end product that Arnold had or that you need to succeed.


Sousa was such a frustration and I would have loved him to succeed. There's a bloody good player in there somewhere but you could guarantee that he'd burn past some hapless full back and then struggle to deliver the ball his run deserved. If he could have learned to hit the front post, back post or penalty spot regularly he'd still be here now (or sold to a higher level).


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If you're an out-and-out winger, it doesn't matter how much pace you have, how tricky you are, or how easily you can go past a defender. If you can't put in a decent cross or shoot accurately, you're on a hiding to nothing.
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If you're an out-and-out winger, it doesn't matter how much pace you have, how tricky you are, or how easily you can go past a defender. If you can't put in a decent cross or shoot accurately, you're on a hiding to nothing.


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The information on Alli is spot on...  I have seen him play on numerous occasions and also i have first class.information from inside FC Halifax...
Alli has talant but disappears after a run or shot...
He is very lazy but can score a goal... He makes his own goals and can find space for a shot...  The trouble is he won't work hard for the rest of the game...
I can't believe he is a PH type player... Debrah will end up somewhere like Notts County or maybe Huddesfield...
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The information on Alli is spot on...  I have seen him play on numerous occasions and also i have first class.information from inside FC Halifax...
Alli has talant but disappears after a run or shot...
He is very lazy but can score a goal... He makes his own goals and can find space for a shot...  The trouble is he won't work hard for the rest of the game...
I can't believe he is a PH type player... Debrah will end up somewhere like Notts County or maybe Huddesfield...


From the little I've seen, I'd be more than pleased if he signed knowing PH had done his due diligence of enough workrate versus threat to the opposition. Having a player that teams we play against have to keep an eye on or get punished can be just as effective defensively as having a willing 90 minute a game runner..
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From the little I've seen, I'd be more than pleased if he signed knowing PH had done his due diligence of enough workrate versus threat to the opposition. Having a player that teams we play against have to keep an eye on or get punished can be just as effective defensively as having a willing 90 minute a game runner..


I agree but I don't think Hurst does.
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I agree but I don't think Hurst does.


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I think Sutton might be one to watch in terms of strugglers - their team that has done so well the last few years  is getting dismantled piece by piece and you would assume they have not got the resource to recruit adequate replacements .
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Our business associate who is a big Sutton fan tells us that it looks like they'll have 15 players departing from last season's squad. Apparently, one of their strikers turned down a new contract because he said he wanted to be closer to his home in the south west - and has just signed for Wimbledon! Must have a terrible sense of direction.
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I think Sutton might be one to watch in terms of strugglers - their team that has done so well the last few years  is getting dismantled piece by piece and you would assume they have not got the resource to recruit adequate replacements .


I don't think they where that good, just physical and a bit one dimensional so I hope you're right.

I think (hope) MK Dons will struggle as some of the stuff around their relegation was pretty toxic.


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I don't think they where that good, just physical and a bit one dimensional so I hope you're right.

I think (hope) MK Dons will struggle as some of the stuff around their relegation was pretty toxic.


No but effective - that home game against them was dreadful , exactly what we are terrible against - a basic physical team who set up to stop us .

The away game i thought was one of our best league performances of the season , when they had to open up a bit at home ,especially the first half we could have been out of sight .
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In the game at BP, Sutton had most of their best players out injured, but still proved too difficult to break down (though we were lacking in inspiration on the day). The fact that Pepple came on and improved us showed just how toothless we were!
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In the game at BP, Sutton had most of their best players out injured, but still proved too difficult to break down (though we were lacking in inspiration on the day). The fact that Pepple came on and improved us showed just how toothless we were!


I think maybe he nearly scored ?
Or that might have been another game .
Hopefully there is some better league games at home next season - Docks Beers and that little box bar at the end of the Ponny got far too much business from me last year , out of boredom of the fare on offer - still renewed though .
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Not sure if this is bull or not but a mate of mine says we were after pepple permanently


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Not sure if this is bull or not but a mate of mine says we were after pepple permanently


I think the most surprising part of that sentence is the fact that you said you are not sure 🤦
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I would be even more worried if you had said 'we are ' after him.
Even this thread has not reached those depths yet .
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People just need to relax. There’s loads of business still to be done and not much movement at the minute. We didn’t make our first signing until 15th June last year.


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Honestly, this coming season and the seasons beyond I'd like to see more games given to our youth players. Don't know if others have realised but in recent years many of our youth have been snapped up by clubs at a higher level. We need to convince these players to stay and play games with us. I firmly believe one of our biggest assets is our academy. We should lean on it more.
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Honestly, this coming season and the seasons beyond I'd like to see more games given to our youth players. Don't know if others have realised but in recent years many of our youth have been snapped up by clubs at a higher level. We need to convince these players to stay and play games with us. I firmly believe one of our biggest assets is our academy. We should lean on it more.


The vast majority don't play for the club they're snapped out by before slipping down the leagues to semi-pro level. It'd obviously be great if we were churning out players from our academy, but there's no point playing youth players for the sake of it if they're not good enough, as very few actually make it in the pro game.
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I think a break from this thread is needed by me, for at least 7 pages, by which time, hopefully, someone will be through the door??

Talk among yourselves, won't you ?
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So basically 93 pages and no signings
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Oops 94 pages
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The vast majority don't play for the club they're snapped out by before slipping down the leagues to semi-pro level. It'd obviously be great if we were churning out players from our academy, but there's no point playing youth players for the sake of it if they're not good enough, as very few actually make it in the pro game.


The one's with significant ability get snapped up quickly by higher league clubs ,two local lads lately -Ben Grist and Harvey Cartwright  both would play for us probably . If we had managed to keep them +Harry , kept Max Wright fit and signed/kept Vernam ;  it's not beyond the realms of possibility we could have had 5 local  players , with enough about them to be in or around the first team now .

The area is producing a fair amount of talent ,as it should a big county with 2 pro teams now and with Lincoln we should be looking county wide at whats on offer . I don't think having a   fair few 'local' players is that much of a pipe dream as people think ,  but it would somehow mean giving these lads an incentive to stick around rather than 'chasing the dream' - ironically staying here longer would probably give them a better chance of fulfilling a decent career rather than going straight through and never playing .
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Barrow are in for Debrah, played for Pete Wild at Halifax.


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So basically 93 pages and no signings


Yeah, true. But think of all the fun we’ve had along the way…. 😂


All Town aren’t we

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Yeah, true. But think of all the fun we’ve had along the way…. 😂


Yer very much so lol
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Put young players in and give them game time based upon whether they’re good enough not based upon where they were born.


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It’s alright saying stick kids in to play, but, they’ve gotta be good enough for a start, they need the confidence that they won’t wilt under the pressure, physically and mentally strong enough to take to the men’s game.

It’s a lot to ask of a 16/17 even 18 year old. I guess that’s why so many are loaned out to lower levels where they can get used to the game and, in all honesty where the result is less important to the parent club as long as they get ‘game time’


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Any thoughts on Jack Hunt being his brother's midfield enforcer ?

Well.... the thread has gone one more page before I bit again !!
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I always remember some previous Town managers introducing youngsters when a game was won and no pressure to change a game but feeling the confidence of the team. As punch once said 'that's the way to do it.'










'I walked in the dressing room. The window was open and I thought that a sea fret had got in. Then I saw smoke billowing from a pipe in the corner of the room...it was my centre-forward. He looked seven stone wet through. He went on to score thirty-odd goals that season.' Lawrie McMenemy on encountering the legend that was Matt Tees.
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Sorry no GollyGTFC today. He has been a very busy boy today.....

Mending my Washing Machine & walking the dog.

Normal service will resume tomorrow.    


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Ok so I’ve been given some info by someone very credible. Now, it’s either a massive wind up (he’s not that sort of bloke tbh) or it’s very real.

Led to believe that we are in talks with Luke Hannant, midfielder just left Colchester.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Hannant


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Classic Hurst signing written all over it. Completely under the radar.

Decent contribution to Cambridge's promotion winning side. Never quite got going at Colchester, but I think they've become a club that nothing seems to quite click at.
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Ok so I’ve been given some info by someone very credible. Now, it’s either a massive wind up (he’s not that sort of bloke tbh) or it’s very real.

Led to believe that we are in talks with Luke Hannant, midfielder just left Colchester.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Hannant


A quick look around twitter to see he’s not been slated by anybody suggests that he must be relatively decent. Strikes me that he had a very good season when Cambridge went up, had a bad first season at Colchester but a good second until they massively inflated the squad and he was pushed out. Went to Dundee and got promoted & the fans consensus was that he was good but maybe not good enough for SPL football (slightly worrying considering it’s shite).

I’ll now sit back & wait, hoping I’ve not done 10 mins research on a bullshit rumour.
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A quick look around twitter to see he’s not been slated by anybody suggests that he must be relatively decent. Strikes me that he had a very good season when Cambridge went up, had a bad first season at Colchester but a good second until they massively inflated the squad and he was pushed out. Went to Dundee and got promoted & the fans consensus was that he was good but maybe not good enough for SPL football (slightly worrying considering it’s shite).

I’ll now sit back & wait, hoping I’ve not done 10 mins research on a bullshit rumour.


The ‘source’ trust me is very credible


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Wore number 7 at Cambridge, is he a winger?
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Wore number 7 at Cambridge, is he a winger?


Two footed attacking central midfielder who can also play on the wing according to wiki.

Looks to tick a lot of Hurst boxes.

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I asked a Cambridge supporting mate I have regarding Luke Hannatt and he said he's a very handy league 2 player, versatile can play in several positions and wherever he plays you're gaurenteed to get 100% effort out of him, he covers a lot of ground, whilst not being amazing technically he's certainly good enough technically to play in league 2, has a decent cross on him and will do a solid if unspectacular job.
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I asked a Cambridge supporting mate I have regarding Luke Hannatt and he said he's a very handy league 2 player, versatile can play in several positions and wherever he plays you're gaurenteed to get 100% effort out of him, he covers a lot of ground, whilst not being amazing technically he's certainly good enough technically to play in league 2, has a decent cross on him and will do a solid if unspectacular job.


Ticks plenty of boxes there I reckon.


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I asked a Cambridge supporting mate I have regarding Luke Hannatt and he said he's a very handy league 2 player, versatile can play in several positions and wherever he plays you're gaurenteed to get 100% effort out of him, he covers a lot of ground, whilst not being amazing technically he's certainly good enough technically to play in league 2, has a decent cross on him and will do a solid if unspectacular job.


Sounds like arr Paul's sort of player , hopefully it comes off.
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Sounds like arr Paul's sort of player , hopefully it comes off.
Understating there, he's a decent height at 5 11 as well, won't break the wage structure; PH's wet dream...

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Just heard the Luke Hannant rumour myself. Us and Mansfield in for him at the moment if it is to be believed.
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As long as he can hit a decent cross, then he's in. Last two right wingers let themselves down in that department and cost us a few goals.
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I asked a Cambridge supporting mate I have regarding Luke Hannatt and he said he's a very handy league 2 player, versatile can play in several positions and wherever he plays you're gaurenteed to get 100% effort out of him, he covers a lot of ground, whilst not being amazing technically he's certainly good enough technically to play in league 2, has a decent cross on him and will do a solid if unspectacular job.


Being sounded out as a replacement for Harry? Sounds quite like him from that description...
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As long as he can hit a decent cross, then he's in. Last two right wingers let themselves down in that department and cost us a few goals.


We could get two of the worlds best crossers of the ball but if we have nobody on the end of said crosses then they are still of no danger to defences.

We need to get that elusive striker in early doors and work around his strengths with our further recruitment.
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We could get two of the worlds best crossers of the ball but if we have nobody on the end of said crosses then they are still of no danger to defences.

We need to get that elusive striker in early doors and work around his strengths with our further recruitment.


I’m going to go out on limb here and say I think we have one of the best crossers of a ball in this league, Anthony Glennon.

Whilst our problems with scoring are well documented I do think not just a striking option but players that contribute more in the final phase of an attack are needed. Wether that’s wide players or in midfield. Orsi, Taylor and Lloyd I feel we’re all ok/decent at finishing, it’s the quality of the chances I’m not sure about. It maybe my memory being poor but I cannot remember huge periods of things been put on a plate to miss. I do remember poor final passes or the wrong pass being played a lot though in the final third.

Strikers that contribute to holding up the play are also key, too often a ball in the channel or long would come back against some sides. Not only is that a problem going forwards, it doesn’t help going the other way at times when we can’t get out as easily (Gillingham away sticks out in that regard) I think it’s more nuanced than ‘get someone that can finish’.

Our success in the NL wasn’t about having a 9 that scores hatfuls. It was having a striker in Taylor that could lead the line, bring others into play and allow the goals to come from all over the pitch.


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I’m going to go out on limb here and say I think we have one of the best crossers of a ball in this league, Anthony Glennon.

Whilst our problems with scoring are well documented I do think not just a striking option but players that contribute more in the final phase of an attack are needed. Wether that’s wide players or in midfield. Orsi, Taylor and Lloyd I feel we’re all ok/decent at finishing, it’s the quality of the chances I’m not sure about. It maybe my memory being poor but I cannot remember huge periods of things been put on a plate to miss. I do remember poor final passes or the wrong pass being played a lot though in the final third.

Strikers that contribute to holding up the play are also key, too often a ball in the channel or long would come back against some sides. Not only is that a problem going forwards, it doesn’t help going the other way at times when we can’t get out as easily (Gillingham away sticks out in that regard) I think it’s more nuanced than ‘get someone that can finish’.

Our success in the NL wasn’t about having a 9 that scores hatfuls. It was having a striker in Taylor that could lead the line, bring others into play and allow the goals to come from all over the pitch.


I wouldn't put taylor in the same league as orsi when it comes to finishing, or even lloyd. He is a setter up of others more, in my opinion. I seem to remember him having two golden late chances from crosses against Harrogate and Newport I think it was which he should have buried but didn't, unless my memory is faulty which it certainly could be.
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I wouldn't put taylor in the same league as orsi when it comes to finishing, or even lloyd. He is a setter up of others more, in my opinion. I seem to remember him having two golden late chances from crosses against Harrogate and Newport I think it was which he should have buried but didn't, unless my memory is faulty which it certainly could be.


I think Taylor was a great finisher, It’s his hold up play that I feel was criminally overrated last season. Lloyd is the best all round in terms of finishing and hold up play IMO
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As I'm in the relegation places, I'm going to try n drag down the others to my level.
I'm.starting with the biggest n best - Surrey
Ska -  Hope you ve taken note that Surrey said the club would be giving us some significant news after the bank holiday. Surely he needs to join me in the drop zone?😅😅
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I think Taylor was a great finisher, It’s his hold up play that I feel was criminally overrated last season. Lloyd is the best all round in terms of finishing and hold up play IMO


I tend to agree , I think his finishing was good but lack of mobility to get there and inability to compete with physical CB's was sadly lacking most of the time when he did play .

We didn't help him though with high balls a lot of the time .

His race was run at league level,  I suspect in an ideal world Hurst would have let him go the summer previous but it proved the right move to keep him with the lack of forward options .
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As I'm in the relegation places, I'm going to try n drag down the others to my level.
I'm.starting with the biggest n best - Surrey
Ska -  Hope you ve taken note that Surrey said the club would be giving us some significant news after the bank holiday. Surely he needs to join me in the drop zone?😅😅


Didn't say how long after the bank holiday the news would emerge though, so he was on pretty safe ground.  
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The demise of Taylor, especially during a season, was almost heart-breaking to watch.

The Easter weekend when he came on against Hartlepool and seemed to pull something within seconds of the second half and then somehow started against Donny, offering nothing all game, summed up the end of his spell here.

You could tell the brain still wanted to do it but the body had just said stopped complying.  In the Conference he was moving into positions, accepting that not every ball up to him would be perfect (look at his header against Wrexham), he comes across play to pick up that ball forward before feeding McAtee.  Last season he was static and unless the ball was right in front of him at a perfect height he just couldn't do anything with it.  

Lloyd, on the other hand, looks to anticipate the pass before it's made.  It's no fluke that he seemed to often find himself in space and picking up the ball.  I really hope we can get him back here next season.

In terms of finishing I think Orsi looked the best at the club last season, also the best at reacting in and around the box.  Call it strikers instinct, call it lucky, call it what you want but he just looks to be in the right place more often than not.
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A couple of random thoughts about loanees if they are still on the cards for this season, I would like to see Arjan Raihky of Aston Villa returning on loan.

Before he was injured, he certainly showed promise and some physicality in our midfield. A good age, good pace on the ball, likes to attack the opposition, and we are now a division higher to test him, and knowing the area already should be able to slot back in if available again.

Richardson also showed some graft and effort up front, and could be worth a squad place for now - to my eyes, the best of the young striker loan options from last season.
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Wasn't it mentioned that Raihky had been released by Villa?

I'd be happy to see him sign for us as he looked to have the physical side of the game more than any of the other youngsters we've had on loan of late.
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Kian Spence is a free agent after leaving Halifax, numerous EFL clubs after him apparently, I’d be amazed if we’ve not had that conversation.


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Kian Spence is a free agent after leaving Halifax, numerous EFL clubs after him apparently, I’d be amazed if we’ve not had that conversation.


Spent half of the season injured I think.
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I wonder what it’s like being a fan of one of the biggest clubs during close season. Is it along the lines of “Kane, chdajatl?” Or “why would Messi come to Manchester? It’s cold and rainy and he’s past it anyway”
I have no idea how they cope.


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Not sure of the publication date on their website, but 15 younger players, including Raihky and Seb Revan, another ex loanee, are to learn their fate soon.

Raihky would certainly be worth having as a developing player with time to progress.
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Didn't say how long after the bank holiday the news would emerge though, so he was on pretty safe ground.  


Or which bank holiday. Could mean the August bank holiday.
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Wasn't fit and at his best with us but kristian Dennis signs for tranmere 2yr deal and banged goals in for fun last season


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Raikhy being released by Villa. Hurst should be all over that
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Raikhy is only 20, however my memory of him isn't great, and don't really remember him standing out
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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
Raikhy is only 20, however my memory of him isn't great, and don't really remember him standing out


He was decent on the occasions I saw him (which admittedly was only 3 or 4. Apparently he’s been on trial with Leicester, who are interested in him. Slightly odd then that he’s not played a competitive game since his loan here ended.

https://the72.co.uk/2023/06/05/leicester-city-battling-wolves-for-departing-aston-villa-prodigy/


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Depends how many CMs we're in the market for with regards to Raikhy. If we're only bringing one in then he's absolutely not the option we want. Worth pointing out that we last saw him at NL level too, he's not played any league football since then just three trophy games. I thought he did well for us when we had him but I genuinely don't know if he's good enough to do well at L2 level. Just because he came here on loan too, doesn't mean he'd come on a permanent deal.
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Am not too sure about ‘the72’ website. They still have scunny down as a league 2 team


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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
Raikhy is only 20, however my memory of him isn't great, and don't really remember him standing out


It will be to join the Under 23's squad
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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
Raikhy is only 20, however my memory of him isn't great, and don't really remember him standing out


He ran the show for the last hour at Meadow Lane in Feb last year. Was comfortable on the ball, protected it well, rarely gave it away, was 6ft plus and was hard to shake off the ball, plus he could deliver a mean set piece. He's struggled with injuries throughout his career. There's a player beyond L2 in there if you could keep him fit.


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was 6ft plus


I’ll be honest, I think he still will be mate 😂


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I think the club are just waiting for us to get to 100 pages 😂


Wont be long to wait then  
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I liked Raikhy, he’s got all the physical attributes you’d want from a footballer and was very good on the ball IMO. There’s obviously question marks over his ability to step up but I’m sure we’d at least be considering him.
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Hopefully this will soon be a confirmation of who has signed site soon….
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100 pages nearly up and it’s Tuesday tomorrow can only mean one thing. All the inevitability of former players scoring when we meet them.


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Close to 100 pages of drivel.

Whats the record been over the last few years ?


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Quoted from Grimsby2012
Close to 100 pages of drivel.

Whats the record been over the last few years ?


Been plenty of drivel on the pitch in recent years. Shame they couldn’t dribble


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I do enjoy the belief of some correlation between either, or even both, the quantity or quality of posts to an actual signing.

As if Hurst is monitoring this thread, just waiting for some inspiration for a name but only 130 pages onwards before he commits to any deal.
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If Raikhy is being courted by other Midlands clubs such as Leicester, our best hope to get him back is likely to be a loan deal. Which would be fine by me.
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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
Raikhy is only 20, however my memory of him isn't great, and don't really remember him standing out


Interesting that he commented on a tweet by McAtee today
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Anyone heard about the offer we have made yet……….?

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Anyone heard about the offer we have made yet……….?

Crampus Maximus


I would imagine we've made a good offer, but like most agents of players will be touting his name around to get the best deal, some players prefer to get deals sorted early but a lot of contracts don't end until 30th June.




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Interesting that he commented on a tweet by McAtee today


A tweet about the playoff final so not too surprising he'd comment on it as he played a part in it.
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Still well over 100 pages less on here than the saga on the Scunny thread.

Soon be catching up if no signings emerge by this weekend !!
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I'm back, what have I missed? Am I still in the relegation spot?
Urgh.
See you in another 100 pages.
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Jon Nolan ?? 31released by Tranmere .
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Quoted from Meza


I would imagine we've made a good offer, but like most agents of players will be touting his name around to get the best deal, some players prefer to get deals sorted early but a lot of contracts don't end until 30th June.


Going off memory alone, but I can't remember Hurst letting too many contract offers run this length of time into the summer.  We're over a few days short of a month since the retained list was announced (9th May), I would imagine that contract offer had been given to Crocombe shortly prior to that too.

I think he's gone.
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Going off memory alone, but I can't remember Hurst letting too many contract offers run this length of time into the summer.  We're over a few days short of a month since the retained list was announced (9th May), I would imagine that contract offer had been given to Crocombe shortly prior to that too.

I think he's gone.


Crocombe is as far gone as Scunthorpe Utd
Good luck to him though
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Quoted from diehardmariner


Going off memory alone, but I can't remember Hurst letting too many contract offers run this length of time into the summer.  We're over a few days short of a month since the retained list was announced (9th May), I would imagine that contract offer had been given to Crocombe shortly prior to that too.

I think he's gone.


Shame but he's not irreplaceable.
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Torn a little on this one to be honest.  

The Crocombe of 2022 was immense.  I thought he was that kick-on and improvement that we needed from McKeown.  Bit of a shaky start, fair to put it down to rustiness, but once he got going you could see the impact.  Commanded his area so well, was good with his feet and gave us a bit of a swagger at the back that I think we had lacked.

Then this year he just seemed to regress.  I know some have said it could be the effect of a lack of a break but it was just the basics for me.  His distribution went from really good to bloody awful.  No goalkeeper is immune from errors, especially at our level, but he dropped a fair few in the second half of the season.  Again it was basics like not pushing the ball away from the danger area or just generally a bit slow to react.  

Personally I think it was as much down to a lack of competition than anything else.  Battersby was never ever a challenger to his shirt. There was never that pressure of someone keeping him on his toes.  It doesn't matter how professional you are or how dedicated you take the craft, there's a part of you that focuses less when someone isn't on your heels.  

If we could guarantee a 2022's version of Crocombe, I would say do everything to keep him.  The 2023 incarnation I'm genuinely not bothered about.  But whoever we get in (and I trust Hurst on this one), I hope to god it's two goallkeepers who are going at it for the No 1 slot.  Hurst will naturally have his favourite for it but we can't have another situation of complacency creeping in.   I do understand the stance of a tight budget means you can effectively waste a decent wedge on a lad who sits on the bench 99.99% of the time, but even a loanee from higher up the ladder with a genuine chance of coming in is better than someone who will never be used, only in absolute emergencies.
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I’m not too sure why Crocombe would leave, wasn’t he due to sign for Boston before us? Broke into our first team, pretty standard LG2 keeper especially after tailing off towards to end of the season, can’t imagine him going any higher up the leagues unless he wants to relocate and go mid table/lower LG2
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Told to expect at least 2 incomings this week
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I’m not too sure why Crocombe would leave, wasn’t he due to sign for Boston before us? Broke into our first team, pretty standard LG2 keeper especially after tailing off towards to end of the season, can’t imagine him going any higher up the leagues unless he wants to relocate and go mid table/lower LG2


There was a rumour that he was going to Scotland (Falkirk was it?) and that always looked like a strange decision as I can't imagine playing for Falkirk would be significantly more lucrative than playing for us....but happy to be corrected.


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Told to expect at least 2 incomings this week


Is that from a reliable source?

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Quoted from LocalLadGTFC
Told to expect at least 2 incomings this week


Shaq Forde one of them?


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Shaq Forde one of them?


Last I heard it was near enough done so i'd expect it to be one of them. Haven't spoken to the guy since
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I would think there must be a strong chance Hurst will try to get Nolan. At 31 he has great experience, is technically very good and probably has 2 or 3 more years at a decent level. Not sure of his physical condition mindst.


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I would think there must be a strong chance Hurst will try to get Nolan. At 31 he has great experience, is technically very good and probably has 2 or 3 more years at a decent level. Not sure of his physical condition mindst.


We tried last year chaos, had conversations, he chose Tranmere to be nearer his home, and he's barely kicked a ball for 2 years now, real shame as i really liked him in the short time he was here but i think he's sadly finished in professional football
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There was a rumour that he was going to Scotland (Falkirk was it?) and that always looked like a strange decision as I can't imagine playing for Falkirk would be significantly more lucrative than playing for us....but happy to be corrected.


Dundee were interested supposedly.
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We tried last year chaos, had conversations, he chose Tranmere to be nearer his home, and he's barely kicked a ball for 2 years now, real shame as i really liked him in the short time he was here but i think he's sadly finished in professional football


Ah, wasn’t aware he’d been out for such a long time. Should’ve done my research! Presume this is the reason for the seven red crosses as a daft suggestion rather than people not rating a fit Nolan. Apologies.


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Nolan was discussed earlier in the thread, are there people on here not reading every single word of this thread? You're really gonna miss out on the nuances of the content if you're not keeping up.

Nolan was class when we had him, absolutely no doubt. I'd go as far as saying we wouldn't have gone up without him. Him and Disley in the same midfield were great to watch. However, it's quite clear that he's one to swerve right now. I don't feel great saying it, but I really hope we're not in for him.
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Regarding Crocombe, although his kicking went to pot during the second half of the season, it's a long time since we've had a keeper so comfortable coming for and catching/punching crosses. Makes very few errors in that area of the pitch and really helps out the defence, especially in this division where so many crosses are lobbed across into the box.

If he moves on, as looks likely, we'll do well to get a replacement as strong in this area.
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Yet Hurst managed to find him two years ago, pretty much ready to accept a contract in the Conference North with little other interest.

Prior to signing for us he had less than 50 games at fifth tier under his belt.

I'd back Hurst to find us someone as good.
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Just been told Ryan Bennett deal is very close will update you once I get more info 👍


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Just been told Ryan Bennett deal is very close will update you once I get more info 👍


It was 100% done last summer
It needs to be signed and sealed
I wonder whether Hurst shook hands on waiting a year maybe with us being well stocked at CB
Guess we will find out .
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Not Town or League 2 , but Boston have signed Michael Bostwick , played 30 times for Stevenage last season , good good player .Not sure how they have got him to NLN .
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Just been told Ryan Bennett deal is very close will update you once I get more info 👍


A strange one that this didn't get done last year for whatever reason, presumably our strong defensive start didn't help. Would be a really really strong addition and be a great start to the window.

Let's see though, it was close last year aswell so we are told...


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Not Town or League 2 , but Boston have signed Michael Bostwick , played 30 times for Stevenage last season , good good player .Not sure how they have got him to NLN .


35 though now, surprised too see him drop two levels though. Presumably it works for him and maybe there is an in to coaching or similar there...


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A strange one that this didn't get done last year for whatever reason, presumably our strong defensive start didn't help. Would be a really really strong addition and be a great start to the window.

Let's see though, it was close last year aswell so we are told...


I do know there are other clubs interested but hopefully it gets over the line this time, can't say too much but it is close


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Hartlepool's main ITK forumster is saying Umerah's going to a L2 club.
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Quoted from Mendonca1995


I do know there are other clubs interested but hopefully it gets over the line this time, can't say too much but it is close


Had a poke on the Cambridge forum to see if there were any rumblings about Bennett. There weren’t, but there was a post suggesting Joe Ironside was in talks with us.


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A strange one that this didn't get done last year for whatever reason, presumably our strong defensive start didn't help. Would be a really really strong addition and be a great start to the window.

Let's see though, it was close last year aswell so we are told...


To be fair, we had more then enough options at Centre Back last season. I'm guessing that it wasn't worth the hit on the budget. Now that Pearson and Smith are gone, we can realistically afford his demands.
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I'm back, what have I missed? Am I still in the relegation spot?
Urgh.
See you in another 100 pages.


No luke, no!

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There was a rumour that he was going to Scotland (Falkirk was it?) and that always looked like a strange decision as I can't imagine playing for Falkirk would be significantly more lucrative than playing for us....but happy to be corrected.


That rumour came from me✋..bloke who sits behind me in the ponny, said he is connected to the club and that Crocombe was off to Falkirk, although I'd be as shocked and stunned as the next person of he does, plus would worry what we're offering if they can offer more tbh.
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Quoted from Northbank Mariner


That rumour came from me✋..bloke who sits behind me in the ponny, said he is connected to the club and that Crocombe was off to Falkirk, although I'd be as shocked and stunned as the next person of he does, plus would worry what we're offering if they can offer more tbh.


Fair enough - looks strange as they are in the 3rd tier in Scotland. I recall Rob Jones went to Hibs when we were in L2 and that made much more sense. Dundee (mentioned above) would be more realistic, they have just been promoted as champions.

I'd be pleased to see Ryan Bennet back, even at his age I think he'd be too smart for a lot of L2 players.


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A few on the Shrewsbury side seem to think they are going back in for Hurst...
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A few on the Shrewsbury side seem to think they are going back in for Hurst...


Even if they do, I don’t think he would be remotely interested. He’s got the chance a lot of managers don’t get here, security and the chance to build something and close to home.


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There isn't a cat in hells chance Hurst leaves for Shrewsbury again, he's in football dreamland here.
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This Bennett thing is gathering pace and appears to have legs…

A Surrey confirmation will wrap it up
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Quoted from pontoonlew
This Bennett thing is gathering pace and appears to have legs…

A Surrey confirmation will wrap it up


Because of a couple posts on social media? Genuine question?




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Because of a couple posts on social media? Genuine question?


I agree. Look how we all got hoodwinked into thinking Liam Hearn was off to Chelsea


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There isn't a cat in hells chance Hurst leaves for Shrewsbury again, he's in football dreamland here.


Going there might (temporarily) be a step up the pyramid, but it’s a definite downgrade, club size-wise.

I’d say we’ll swap places with them in the next 3 years or so.
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Going there might (temporarily) be a step up the pyramid, but it’s a definite downgrade, club size-wise.

I’d say we’ll swap places with them in the next 3 years or so.


Agreed ,even if it was possible would they even be capable of buying out his contract - I read 'long term' as a good few years .
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No chance Hurst will be going back to Shrewsbury
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Must be some transfer activity soon or are we going to wait and see what scraps are left again as per


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This Bennett thing is gathering pace and appears to have legs…

A Surrey confirmation will wrap it up


I don’t know whether the rumours are true are not regarding Bennett, but I hope they are true. Seems to make sense after it almost happened last Summer, especially now that Smith has gone.
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Because of a couple posts on social media? Genuine question?


The rumours match up to what I’d also heard this afternoon, all 3 could be the exact same source and it’s by no means as credible as the source I had last year but it’s better than nowt.

But as I said, I only trust Surrey
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Must be some transfer activity soon or are we going to wait and see what scraps are left again as per


Bit early for that!

Also, has anybody ever looked into the date players are signed vs how well they do? Surely some players sign for ‘scrappier’ clubs later on in a window when higher league teams don’t offer them a deal.
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Must be some transfer activity soon or are we going to wait and see what scraps are left again as per


It's the 6th of June FFS.
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Quoted from Simon
Must be some transfer activity soon or are we going to wait and see what scraps are left again as per


Don’t think we’ve waited to sign scraps for a few years and don’t think we ever have really under PH


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I'm looking forward to a much more positive summer of transfer activity in terms of quality of signings and quality of social media teases and announcements.

The sort of things I'm after are...

A photo of a new player (obviously not showing his face) at the service station on the A180 holding a map of North East Lincolnshire.

A photo of a new player (again face not showing) walking into Milfields carrying a small suitcase/travel bag.

You get the idea. Just better than the poor tease when we signed Orsi last summer.
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It's the 6th of June FFS.


The 6th of the 6th. Surely we should have signed a Number 6 today?

Or maybe someone called Damian
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I don’t know whether the rumours are true are not regarding Bennett, but I hope they are true. Seems to make sense after it almost happened last Summer, especially now that Smith has gone.


They are true buddy 100%


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I'm looking forward to a much more positive summer of transfer activity in terms of quality of signings and quality of social media teases and announcements.

The sort of things I'm after are...

A photo of a new player (obviously not showing his face) at the service station on the A180 holding a map of North East Lincolnshire.

A photo of a new player (again face not showing) walking into Milfields carrying a small suitcase/travel bag.

You get the idea. Just better than the poor tease when we signed Orsi last summer.


Video of a player in a town shirt zoomed into their plastic fork eating fish & chips outside of Papa's.


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They are true buddy 100%


If true does that mean were not in for Debrah anymore, or do we still need 2 CB's?




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If true does that mean were not in for Debrah anymore, or do we still need 2 CB's?


Are we actually in fro Debrah though?
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No chance Hurst will be going back to Shrewsbury


It all makes sense! Surrey IS Paul Hurst! Only possible explanation he knows all regards transfers and is the runaway leader of the rumour thread. Jigs up Paul!
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Quoted from Simon
Must be some transfer activity soon or are we going to wait and see what scraps are left again as per


I read this like a 3-2-1 clue.

Transfer activity soon: some see soon as being close or as in soon day or Sunday as this has been become more popular since the romans renamed it

Having to wait : where do you wait, a waiting room or maybe you are kept abridge for some reason

Scraps : we all like a fighter but what sort of weight of fighter or are we looking at a pilot in a dog fight

Left again as per : left out again or just left standing again and again

So you’ll see if you go for soonday it’s Sunday and more linked to church or playing on a Sunday or like the Roman leader Caesar.  Kept abridge of a situation or is it just a bridge. Scraps are where defenders make their money. As per, or is it actually azper?

That’s right ladies and gentleman you’ve won the special prize tonight it’s cesar azpilicueta


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Notts County look to sign David McGoldrick we could do with Bennett with half a chance to keep him quiet.

2nd highest scorer in LG1 with Derby last year turned there extension offer down to drop down a league to County.

Not confirmed but looking likely
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Notts County look to sign David McGoldrick we could do with Bennett with half a chance to keep him quiet.

2nd highest scorer in LG1 with Derby last year turned there extension offer down to drop down a league to County.

Not confirmed but looking likely


But look set to lose Langstaff and Rodrigues. Must be paying DM a fair whack aswell, not sure how compliant they're going to be with the new laws coming in as they're losing money left right and centre.
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No luke, no!

Please keep your random guesses coming in


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I don’t know whether the rumours are true are not regarding Bennett, but I hope they are true. Seems to make sense after it almost happened last Summer, especially now that Smith has gone.


Scratch that, just been told it’s a done deal, to be announced officially later this week. Well done Mendonca on breaking it first.
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That will do for starters !
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Scratch that, just been told it’s a done deal, to be announced officially later this week. Well done Mendonca on breaking it first.


That really would be something. Only just turned 33; Bennett would be one of if not the best centre-half at this level next season.

I’d be cóck-a-hoop. If Surrey says it’s true, it has to be true, doesn’t it?


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Finally, some news and very good news at that.

Been checking in daily while on my travels, waiting for something of substance.

Just opened a beer too, so good timing.










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Has anyone's hair stood up yet?


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If mine could, it probably would have done.
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Scratch that, just been told it’s a done deal, to be announced officially later this week. Well done Mendonca on breaking it first.


Please do not break my trust Surrey or there really is no hope for this thread
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Scratch that, just been told it’s a done deal, to be announced officially later this week. Well done Mendonca on breaking it first.


Thanks fella hopefully puts me up there at the top of the league again 👀


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Thanks fella hopefully puts me up there at the top of the league again 👀


Also knew about haughton staying at fylde and as for billy Chadwick he has a number of league 2 clubs chasing him we weren't interested and as im aware we still aren't will keep you all updated 👍


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Bit early for that!

Also, has anybody ever looked into the date players are signed vs how well they do? Surely some players sign for ‘scrappier’ clubs later on in a window when higher league teams don’t offer them a deal.


Pleased this early swoop left us smug whilst our rivals nose dived in on the scraps  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/g/grimsby_town/6647911.stm


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Pleased this early swoop left us smug whilst our rivals nose dived in on the scraps  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/g/grimsby_town/6647911.stm


Who was the midfielder we were close to signing, Danny Boshell?
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Who was the midfielder we were close to signing, Danny Boshell?


James Hunt. Decent player. Bit underrated if I recall.


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Thanks fella hopefully puts me up there at the top of the league again 👀


Unfortunately for you I may have broke to the runner of this league that I have a photo of Ryan in a Town shirt a week ago 😁
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Who was the midfielder we were close to signing, Danny Boshell?


James hunt?


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James Hunt. Decent player. Bit underrated if I recall.


Unspectacular, but one of those players you miss when they aren't there. See also: Stacy Coldicott.
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Which page is the most recent rumour table on? 😄
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Unfortunately for you I may have broke to the runner of this league that I have a photo of Ryan in a Town shirt a week ago 😁


I've got a pic of him in Town shirt from years ago.
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I've got a pic of him in Town shirt from years ago.


But this one is from around 10 days ago 😉
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Ryan hasn't signed until he's told some bloke on Buck Beck whilst out walking his dog.
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But this one is from around 10 days ago 😉


And you’re not gonna post it?


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And you’re not gonna post it?


As I explained to Ska, I have no clue how to!
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As I explained to Ska, I have no clue how to!


Has to be proof in the pudding 😉😉😉


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Identities redacted to protect sources.

Let’s hope it happens, would be a great signing!
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Was he under duress or restrained at all in the photo?
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Quoted from ska face



Identities redacted to protect sources.

Let’s hope it happens, would be a great signing!


Yet certain fans seem to think we don't hold signing announcements back!
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Ryan hasn't signed until he's told some bloke on Buck Beck whilst out walking his dog.


I actually see him most mornings funnily enough whilst out on a run, has a very small dog 😆 unbelievable signing, was some player when he was first here and an absolute coup for us.
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Has to be proof in the pudding 😉😉😉


Pic has been shared to some esteemed posters, it wont be going public though...
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Hear we're interested in Free agent Alex pattison.

Surprised if true considering he wanted a league 1 move.

Would be a brilliant bit of business if true.


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Pic has been shared to some esteemed posters, it wont be going public though...


Last seasons top, the Green Town top, or a new one?
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Yet certain fans seem to think we don't hold signing announcements back!


I think a lot of people forget that most of these contracts don’t expire until 30th June
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Is it one of you's that's posted thr picture of Bennett in Town kit on Twitter ?

He either really likes the kit or signed lol
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Quoted from Grimsby2012
Hear we're interested in Free agent Alex pattison.

Surprised if true considering he wanted a league 1 move.

Would be a brilliant bit of business if true.


That’s a long name, cost a bomb to have that on the shirt.
It also sounds more like a campaign more than a signing. “Free George Jackson”, that sort of thing.


Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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Quoted from Grimsby2012
Hear we're interested in Free agent Alex pattison.

Surprised if true considering he wanted a league 1 move.

Would be a brilliant bit of business if true.


Be an ABSOLUTELY brilliant bit of business if true. Be a perfect replacement for McAtee in that #10 role.


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If true does that mean were not in for Debrah anymore, or do we still need 2 CB's?

I think in an ideal world we'd have 4 CBs in the squad. 3 is too risky if we want the option of playing wingbacks which I'd imagine Hurst does, going off last season. Not sure how likely Debrah is given that he apparently has interest from L1/Championship clubs. Waterfall, Bennett and Maher is only really lacking a bit of pace so you'd hope if we are in for another one it'd be someone who is quick. Waterfall, Bennett, Maher and Debrah would be an embarrassment of riches. Getting ridiculously stacked at the back could be a shrewd way of offsetting the inevitability of missing out on our first choice attacking targets. We all know El General's favourite scoreline is 1-0 to Town.
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I think in an ideal world we'd have 4 CBs in the squad. 3 is too risky if we want the option of playing wingbacks which I'd imagine Hurst does, going off last season. Not sure how likely Debrah is given that he apparently has interest from L1/Championship clubs. Waterfall, Bennett and Maher is only really lacking a bit of pace so you'd hope if we are in for another one it'd be someone who is quick. Waterfall, Bennett, Maher and Debrah would be an embarrassment of riches. Getting ridiculously stacked at the back could be a shrewd way of offsetting the inevitability of missing out on our first choice attacking targets. We all know El General's favourite scoreline is 1-0 to Town.


I think he quite enjoyed that 4-5 to be fair.


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Quoted from Poojah


I think he quite enjoyed that 4-5 to be fair.


Glad someone did...


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Glad someone did...


I enjoyed the score line. The game itself very nearly killed me.


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I enjoyed the score line. The game itself very nearly killed me.


One of those the neutral thinks was a good entertaining game, whilst turning to their Town supporting friend who’s sat on the floor, rocking in the corner..


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I enjoyed the score line. The game itself very nearly killed me.

It was almost too much. I remember when we went 4-3 up I genuinely didn't feel like I had another goal celebration in the tank, thankfully there was a decent wait for that 5th goal. It was so rammed where I was. Two or three Town fans deep on each row. I had to help one lad get his leg out of the seat that had broken during a celebration at one point.
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Maybe Shaun will register as a player in case of an emergency?
Funny that he's only actually a year older than Bennett.
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Didn't realise Cambridge offered Bennett a new contract after his initial 6 months. Most of their fans hugely impressed and the general consensus is that he would reject the offer and move to a bigger club. Some fearful he would go back to Peterborough

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Why is everyone seemingly convinced Bennett will turn us down?

Ability-wise he's still capable of playing above us and obviously we won't be offering as much as other clubs could, but he's had a long top-level career so probably isn't desperate for money and geographically we make sense for him.

Will depend on who else is in for him but clearly he's given some indication he'd consider staying, otherwise he'd be on the list with the others.
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Maybe Shaun will register as a player in case of an emergency?
Funny that he's only actually a year older than Bennett.


Yep just a little younger but generally speaking I think he was always pretty mobile/athletic, definitely more so than Shaun. Playing the level he has I'm sure he's had a lot more time and money invested in him to still have a fair amount left in the tank.


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Didn't realise Cambridge offered Bennett a new contract after his initial 6 months. Most of their fans hugely impressed and the general consensus is that he would reject the offer and move to a bigger club. Some fearful he would go back to Peterborough

Quote:
Why is everyone seemingly convinced Bennett will turn us down?

Ability-wise he's still capable of playing above us and obviously we won't be offering as much as other clubs could, but he's had a long top-level career so probably isn't desperate for money and geographically we make sense for him.

Will depend on who else is in for him but clearly he's given some indication he'd consider staying, otherwise he'd be on the list with the others.


Played 21 times after signing in Jan and the big worries they had were losing him up. He appears to remain a very good player even at the level above us. Would be a real quality addition.
Not as glitzy as a striker, but if you plonk someone who can shine a level or 2 higher into a team it can make a massive difference.

Andy Todd transformed us in his short spell, he was so clearly above the level. Funnily enough goalkeepers are a good example of this for Town, standouts being Beasant and the two Henderson's
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Quoted from buckstown
Didn't realise Cambridge offered Bennett a new contract after his initial 6 months. Most of their fans hugely impressed and the general consensus is that he would reject the offer and move to a bigger club. Some fearful he would go back to Peterborough

Quote:
Why is everyone seemingly convinced Bennett will turn us down?

Ability-wise he's still capable of playing above us and obviously we won't be offering as much as other clubs could, but he's had a long top-level career so probably isn't desperate for money and geographically we make sense for him.

Will depend on who else is in for him but clearly he's given some indication he'd consider staying, otherwise he'd be on the list with the others.


Just had a look, and they are confused why he turned us down in January, only to sign now.

He didn't turn us down, as we didn't offer him a contract.
We was sorted in that department last season, so didn't waste 1.5-2k a week when not required
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Ryan Bennett would undoubtedly be the best CB in this division and would give us a huge shot at promotion
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Speaking of Cambridge, you think this threads long and full of nonsense... their forum has a transfer rumour thread aswell. It was started in 2014 and is at 1,290 pages.

Ska, I love the transfer rumour leaderboard etc, but please don't leave this running for 9 years as one thread  


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If Bennett does sign, then I hope that defensive positioning from opposition corners and free kicks is addressed, so that the goals against from poor marking is reduced.
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Someone’s just put on one of the Facebook groups about us signing max sanders. Went to google him and the post has been removed.

Don’t know if it’s feasible or not or even if it’s one that we are genuinely https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Sanders


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He was well regarded by Lincoln fans.
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Someone’s just put on one of the Facebook groups about us signing max sanders. Went to google him and the post has been removed.

Don’t know if it’s feasible or not or even if it’s one that we are genuinely https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Sanders


I know a lincoln fan who said he was ok, without pulling up any trees.
Played 33 times in League 1 last season
Would be a good signing IMO.
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I know a lincoln fan who said he was ok, without pulling up any trees.
Played 33 times in League 1 last season
Would be a good signing IMO.


Very non PC to go around tearing up trees these days so sounds good
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There is a photo going round of Ryan Bennett in a Town shirt



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Speaking of Cambridge, you think this threads long and full of nonsense... their forum has a transfer rumour thread aswell. It was started in 2014 and is at 1,290 pages.

Pathetic stats there to be honest. I bet they don't even have to wade through 17 pages of nonsense to find a single rumour.
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That photo looks very unofficial and in last seasons shirt. To me that doesnt suggest hes signed or signing?
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That photo looks very unofficial and in last seasons shirt. To me that doesnt suggest hes signed or signing?


Why does the fact its last season shirt mean anything? Maybe the club haven’t received the kits yet. Just because Stoke have their Macron kits doesn’t mean Grimsby have theirs. As for looking unofficial I agree, but it isn’t supposed to look official. It’s Ryan Bennett in a Grimsby shirt from this season. Both Mendonca and Surrey have said he’s signed. This will be a done deal, I’m sure of it, it’s just a matter of when.
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There is a photo going round of Ryan Bennett in a Town shirt


I’ve been told this was for a stag do, not sure how true that is.
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I’ve been told this was for a stag do, not sure how true that is.


That’s interesting, didn’t know that.
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Pathetic stats there to be honest. I bet they don't even have to wade through 17 pages of nonsense to find a single rumour.


Wait- we're supposed to actually post rumours on this thread?  Since when?
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I’m not sure the Bennett photo means anything, let’s not forget he trained with us for a couple of months, he’s probably worn the shirt numerous times in inter squad 11 a sides etc. There’s no date on the photo either, just somebody’s word that it was taken recently.

I’m still sure he’s signed, but the photo isn’t the ‘got him’ moment.
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I really do hope the basis for this rumour isn’t just from that photo alone! Looks like a drunk up fan has put a shirt on him in a beer garden somewhere.


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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been told it's another bennett released at walsall not sure if true
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They need to fúcking crack on, I can tell you that much.
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been told it's another bennett released at walsall not sure if true


Only one I can see is Liam Bennett - released by Cambridge but had been on loan at Walsall. Right back. Would be both very funny and very disappointing.
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been told it's another bennett released at walsall not sure if true


Gordon?


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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They need to fúcking crack on, I can tell you that much.

The transfer window as a Town fan is like England and major tournaments. At the end of it, when your dreams lie in tatters and you're full of disappointment you tell yourself "never again, I won't be sucked in next time". But then the new window rolls around and you tell yourself "maybe, just maybe we'll do some early business this time." And before you know it, you're 112 pages deep into a rumours thread getting tricked by the fake gtfc Twitter account about Ryan Bennett signing and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
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Sergio Busquets Wiki says he's off for a player/coach role at Town - that counts as a rumour right?
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Danny Rose- Stevenage
Toby Mullarkey- talks ongoing with Rochdale
Donovan Wilson- Signing from Sutton
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Only one I can see is Liam Bennett - released by Cambridge but had been on loan at Walsall. Right back. Would be both very funny and very disappointing.


#signed the wrong player woodsy.


I was there, the day Bradley Wood scored a 35 yarder!

From the black and white striped shirts
To the fish in the sea
You'll hear us singing
Coz we are Grimsby.

You won't hear us crying
But you'll hear us shout
Coz we are the Grimsby
And this is our chant.......... Grimsby! Grimsby! Grimsby!

     A.S.A.F.A.T.
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Danny Rose- Stevenage
Toby Mullarkey- talks ongoing with Rochdale
Donovan Wilson- Signing from Sutton


Hope not for the last one....

One goal every 12 games in League Two.

Think we can do better and we'd be better off trying to get Lloyd back.
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Liam Bennett seems to be under contract at Cambridge until next summer maybe it's a loan he seemed to do well on loan at Walsall last season.
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So, looking at the last few pages it seems we are 'in for';

Danny Rose
Toby Mullarkey
Alex Pattison
Jessie Debrah
Luke Hannant
Joe Ironside
Shaq Forde
Millenic Alli
Arjan Raiky
Jon Nolan
Josh Umera
and maybe Tyler Walker.
Oh, and Ryan Bennet is coming back.
Did I miss anyone?

Looks like we will have a bigger squad than Chelsea.
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Feels like Danny Rose has been around forever but he's still only 29. Doesn't have an eye-catching goal record but always seems to be playing for teams at the top end of league 2. Would be pleased if we can get hold of him.
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Let’s face it we got nowt, Hurst will pull a Hurst and sign players from the list that’s kept quiet just wait


Poojah's fishy

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Quoted from RonMariner
So, looking at the last few pages it seems we are 'in for';

Danny Rose
Toby Mullarkey
Alex Pattison
Jessie Debrah
Luke Hannant
Joe Ironside
Shaq Forde
Millenic Alli
Arjan Raiky
Jon Nolan
Josh Umera
and maybe Tyler Walker.
Oh, and Ryan Bennet is coming back.
Did I miss anyone?

Looks like we will have a bigger squad than Chelsea.


Charles Vernam, Max Sanders and Liam Bennett - that's quite some depth we're going to have next season..  


All Town aren’t we

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By gum i would throw the baby out with the bathwater now if we sign the wrong Bennett
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The transfer window as a Town fan is like England and major tournaments. At the end of it, when your dreams lie in tatters and you're full of disappointment you tell yourself "never again, I won't be sucked in next time". But then the new window rolls around and you tell yourself "maybe, just maybe we'll do some early business this time." And before you know it, you're 112 pages deep into a rumours thread getting tricked by the fake gtfc Twitter account about Ryan Bennett signing and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.


Some days I’m bang into it, like yesterday when there was a bit of a buzz and excitement & maybe a decent signing. Then other days it makes me want to slash my wrists, like today when one player gets mentioned and people start steaming in with the “we need better” despite having probably never even heard of the kid an hour ago. Then it’s all the meta-chat & I just cannot be ārsed with it.
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I'm not in the know whatsoever but I have heard a lot of chatter today that we have signed Ryan Bennett on a 2yr contract!! Cracking if true
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Quoted from Hagrid
Danny Rose- Stevenage
Toby Mullarkey- talks ongoing with Rochdale
Donovan Wilson- Signing from Sutton


My dog is called Wilson.
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I'm not in the know whatsoever but I have heard a lot of chatter today that we have signed Ryan Bennett on a 2yr contract!! Cracking if true


Confirmed now on 2yr deal
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My dog is called Wilson.


And there we have it… peak transfer rumour thread. Let’s pack up now ladies and gents, it ain’t getting better than this!


All Town aren’t we

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Feels like Danny Rose has been around forever but he's still only 29. Doesn't have an eye-catching goal record but always seems to be playing for teams at the top end of league 2. Would be pleased if we can get hold of him.


I've always thought he was a good player.
He's a bit of Orsi, in that he can be a horrible person to play against... body in the way, rolls about on the floor, and has a natural ability to be in the right place at the right time.
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June 7, 2023, 4:53pm
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Didn't know that Ryan Bennet was the clubs youngest  ever Captain at 17 years old, when Macca handed him the armband when he was substituted against Lincoln City in 2007.
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My dog is called Wilson.

But he can not play football though.



If the football is bad you can always watch the gulls.
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He IS a football
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Mullarkey would be a very very good signing. Best player on the pitch by a mile when we played them at BP.
Right back or centre half I believe
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Confirmed now on 2yr deal


Where?
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Has any of our released player got fixed up yet ?
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Quoted from crusty ole pie


Where?


Spoof account on Twitter has caught some people out I think.
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Cambridge fan I have told me we have no chance of signing Liam Bennett, he reckoned he is Championship material
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Spoof account on Twitter has caught some people out I think.


Never trust Twitter till it’s on the fishy it’s still a rumour
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Cambridge fan I have told me we have no chance of signing Liam Bennett, he reckoned he is Championship material


But we might have a chance with Ryan
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I won't lie... I fell for the spoof account for a very short while  
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Incoming…Toby Mullarkey




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Quoted from GyMariner
Incoming…Toby Mullarkey


Source?
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Lifelong fan Graham apparently in the club shop today and got his autograph. I don’t know how much truth there is to be in it.
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Lifelong fan Graham apparently in the club shop today and got his autograph. I don’t know how much truth there is to be in it.


I’d trust Graham more than most, I have to say.
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Depending on how these Bennett signing predictions go , Graham could end up top of the league without even being on here .
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Quoted from GtfcGarner
Lifelong fan Graham apparently in the club shop today and got his autograph. I don’t know how much truth there is to be in it.


Who's Autograph did Graham get? Ryan Bennett, Toby Mullarkey? There's been so many names mentioned I don't know!
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Who's Autograph did Graham get? Ryan Bennett, Toby Mullarkey? There's been so many names mentioned I don't know!


Alan Bennett, they had a lovely tea at Betty’s afterwards


Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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news from a very good source saying 4 signings today,Danny Rose,Ryan Bennett,Donovan Wilson and Mullerkay,if true looking very good indeed,UTM
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ITS THURSDAY TOMORROW is that not our favoured day for announcements
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Does anyone have an AI photo licence?  Just wondering what results you get if you put all the players listed earlier in wearing a town shirt????

So show me Shaq Forde in a Grimsby Town shirt

p.s. this is not an excuse for some people do show me their sh1t photoshopping skills

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Thats fast haha (not me btw)





My Grimsby Legends
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Quoted from newarkmariner
news from a very good source saying 4 signings today,Danny Rose,Ryan Bennett,Donovan Wilson and Mullerkay,if true looking very good indeed,UTM


Assuming there’s any truth in this, Donovan Wilson is the one from furthest left-field. On the surface, a relatively low-scoring forward and just about the only player Sutton fielded last season who wasn’t at least 6ft.

Still, if we’re indeed using something by akin to “moneyball”, then a signing or three that looks strange on paper is to be expected.


A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner.
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Who's Autograph did Graham get? Ryan Bennett, Toby Mullarkey? There's been so many names mentioned I don't know!


Alan Bennett, they had a lovely tea at Betty’s afterwards


Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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Donovan Wilson- Signing from Sutton


presumably related (via Jamaica) to Don & Terry , forward who scores feck all goals . He ticks all the boxes  
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Alan Bennett, they had a lovely tea at Betty’s afterwards


Alan Bennett having tea with our Graham - wow! what an afternoon that would be  
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Who's Autograph did Graham get? Ryan Bennett, Toby Mullarkey? There's been so many names mentioned I don't know!


He's got Mullarkey's. There's a photo of the autograph put on Facebook by Graham's Brother George. Top scoop from the Holness brothers.
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He's got Mullarkey's. There's a photo of the autograph put on Facebook by Graham's Brother George. Top scoop from the Holness brothers.


I’ll be taking the scoop for this one! Page 112 😂
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Had “2 strikers & a defender signed” confirmed, 3rd hand, from a reliable source. I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows THE guy.
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I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows THE guy.


Well, I’m convinced… 😂


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And there we have it… peak transfer rumour thread. Let’s pack up now ladies and gents, it ain’t getting better than this!


Here he is from his last trip to the groomer. He’s very excited because he’s going to GranthamMariner’s house tomorrow for the day.



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Well, I’m convinced… 😂


I also know the second guy (second guy from my end), but have included all degrees of separation from THE GUY for completeness. THE GUY being Hurst, the first guy being someone in the GTFC office. 3rd guy from THE GUY (1st guy from me) is reliable at passing messages on - believe his relaying of message from second guy is accurate.
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I also know the second guy (second guy from my end), but have included all degrees of separation from THE GUY for completeness. THE GUY being Hurst, the first guy being someone in the GTFC office. 3rd guy from THE GUY (1st guy from me) is reliable at passing messages on - believe his relaying of message from second guy is accurate.


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I'm beginning to think that this guy in the know is actually Guy Martin, who hates football, but might know several speedy people in this season of TT races !!
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You’re going to win your own league this year, aren’t you!


I’m in the lead. Sorry, I don’t make the rules!
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It's reached the stage of the evening where I read Don and Terry as tom and jerry...


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I'm beginning to think that this guy in the know is actually Guy Martin, who hates football, but might know several speedy people in this season of TT races !!


Might be Guy Goma if this window goes as well as January.

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I live close to the Guy Fawkes pub. He was hoping to go off with a bang.
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Might be Guy Goma if this window goes as well as January.






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Rose is on fire

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I live close to the Guy Fawkes pub. He was hoping to go off with a bang.


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I’d be pleased with Mullarkey and Rose if they sign. Mullarkey stood out when we played Rochdale and Rose has always been a real thorn in the side of defenders whenever I’ve seen him.

If Bennett signs then we know he’s significantly better than this division.

Only the lad from Sutton is a bit of an unknown and his stats aren’t great but I trust PH to get more right than he gets wrong.

Hope these are all correct.
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I’d be pleased with Mullarkey and Rose if they sign. Mullarkey stood out when we played Rochdale and Rose has always been a real thorn in the side of defenders whenever I’ve seen him.

If Bennett signs then we know he’s significantly better than this division.

Only the lad from Sutton is a bit of an unknown and his stats aren’t great but I trust PH to get more right than he gets wrong.

Hope these are all correct.


If you dive deep into the stats of the Sutton guy, it actually tells a better picture and would be indicative of the moneyball technique being used. His career is a fascinating one being played across multiple countries. He started at Bristol Rovers and then Wolves paid a fee for him, when at Wolves he played in the cup competitions and the league, mainly used because of his explosive pace. Went out on loan to Port Vale and scored 1 in 8. Went out on loan to Spains equivalent of L2 and scored 6 in 16. Returned to England and went to Exeter replacing Trist Abrahams, only started 3 times and came off the bench 7 times. Career is then badly hampered by Covid and the seasons curtailing for the next few years until he signs for Sutton and scored 7 in 16 to help them promoted to L2.

There’s obviously a player there based on his pedigree and his assets seem to be very similar to Trist Abrahams in the fact of he’s very explosive with his pace. Never seems to of had a solid run of games in his career barring the last 2/3 years.
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Some suggestion he also may have suffered from Sutton’s direct and physical approach.


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Looks like the Bennett stuff is a hoax and the picture is a fake.


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Quoted from davmariner
Looks like the Bennett stuff is a hoax and the picture is a fake.


16 Bentleys.


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Hope not for the last one....

One goal every 12 games in League Two.

Think we can do better and we'd be better off trying to get Lloyd back.

Believe Wilson has signed .Like you I'm underwhelmed by him
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Have it on good authority that R. Bennett, Mullarkey & Rose are all done but heard nothing on Donovan Wilson


"IT'S BOGLE! AGAIN!"
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Hope not for the last one....

One goal every 12 games in League Two.

Think we can do better and we'd be better off trying to get Lloyd back.


Just to point out, 3 players in the top scorers list this year Dennis, Hoskins and Agyei scored 2, 7 and 1 respectively the season before.

We in all honestly know absolutely nothing about some players other than numbers we read on websites. I live in Sutton, general opinion from the people I know who watch him you can summarise as ‘way better than numbers look, we’ve never played to his strengths and we’re always going long, play to his strengths there is a good player there - decent bloke’

I’d also point out Lloyds record before coming here with some making similar comments.

I’d trust the people at the club that have seen him, know what he’s about and have (possibly) decided to bring him in than what Wikipedia tells me.


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I heard from a reliable source, not twitter or facebook, Ryan Bennett has/is signed for us.


You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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If I say Ryan hasn't signed do I go above everyone who's saying he has in the leader chart?
Worth a gamble at this stage with my poor form from the last transfer window
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I'm not too worried about Donovan's stats. The fact that we've employed these data scientists, the head of recruitment has been in post for 6 months+ and that PH has wanted him ,n got him early makes me think they're v. confident in him (if, of course, it's not  a load of bollox!)
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Quoted from lukeo
If I say Ryan hasn't signed do I go above everyone who's saying he has in the leader chart?
Worth a gamble at this stage with my poor form from the last transfer window


Given the sheer amount of 'I hear Ryan has officially signed' posts bulding up I suggest Ska rules with an iron fist and should he NOT now sign that point deductions are brought in, possibly even accounts deleted and the user starts again, much like a phoenix club. (Emoji needed here?)

🤞 Fingers crossed for news today
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If we sign Bennett (the right one), Mullarkey and Rose that would be some start. Would be more than happy to take a wildcard like Wilson as part of that overall bundle.
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We have a good record of helping poor stat players get games (Connell, Amond, Bogle) and produce goals for the team.

Our first problem is actually getting them to sign and be here.

Once they arrive, like in the case of Lloyd this season, I think they realise that they have an honest chance of getting game time and the opportunity to shine on the field.

Lloyd certainly took his chance and I would like to see him back next season.

Economically, we need to find rough diamonds with raw abilities that can be channelled into team play for the benefit of the whole.

Knowing when to pass, knowing positions to receive in space, movement then to draw opponents into false marking positions, not having to guess if a winger or overlapping full back is there expecting your pass, being the team player, not a super star ! - these are the qualities of teams who have given us honest thumpings last season.

Swindon was a nightmare for home supporters, but you had to admire how they bossed the game, good ball control, players running for each other, then the quality of clinical finishing made us look like amateurs.

Yes, fans want results, but some home entertainment would not go amiss !
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Whilst I agree with most of the above, Bogle had scored about 30 the season before we signed him and Amond’s stats were nowhere near as bad as people seem to like to remember - he’d scored 10 in the league above, playing mostly out wide.


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I know it would be to the detriment to the team (as I'd rather Ryan Bennett sign) but I'd also find it funny if he didn't, as it'd expose a lot of people on here who claim they have reliable sources as absolute chancers who actually know nothing and whose tactic is to simply piggyback on someone else's rumour!


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I'm now lost at this point, is Donovan Wilson the dog or not?  And I thought Danny Rose was a left back for Spurs?
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Peter O’Rouke via Football Insider reporting Danny Rose to sign following a fee being agreed with Stevenage.

The source being O’Rouke means it’s probably done then.

Good signing, always in top end L2 sides and playing a lot in them.


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Striker Danny rose in talks with us.
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Just to point out, 3 players in the top scorers list this year Dennis, Hoskins and Agyei scored 2, 7 and 1 respectively the season before.

We in all honestly know absolutely nothing about some players other than numbers we read on websites. I live in Sutton, general opinion from the people I know who watch him you can summarise as ‘way better than numbers look, we’ve never played to his strengths and we’re always going long, play to his strengths there is a good player there - decent bloke’

I’d also point out Lloyds record before coming here with some making similar comments.

I’d trust the people at the club that have seen him, know what he’s about and have (possibly) decided to bring him in than what Wikipedia tells me.


To further add to your point, McAtee had a pretty unspectacular goalscoring record when he signed but Hurst said words to the effect of "he's a great finisher" which has stuck with me since.

The season just gone is a tough one to judge him because he got a bad injury in the first game, but that National League McAtee proved that he could finish. Hurst knew what he could do and identified a way of playing that exploited that.

We look at appearance data and say how bad their goalscoring record is, but for all we know it could be 4 goals in 40x 5 minute sub appearances; which in terms of goals per minute, is pretty much 2 goals a game!
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Remember seeing that Wilson playing when Sutton won the National League he looked a real handful then with his pace, something weve lacked.. hoping all these signings happen would be a great start to the transfer window...
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Rose can bring his brand of shíthousery with him. Probably the best version of this type of goal that I have seen.



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If true, which the source reporting would indicate it is, I think this is a cracking bit of business first up. There is a reason he has played in teams that do well in this league, that overall numbers do not always show. Whenever I can remember him playing against us, he's looked a handful. Experienced at this level and only 29.

Stats don't tell you much as I've said previously but if you break them down he is 1 in 3.8 overall last season in league and cup - when you look at per 90 minutes played and not just appearances.

Overall throughout his carer, he is 1 in 3.5 when playing as a striker - has done a job at 10 and in wide areas quite often.



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We’re going down the data driven money ball route this year and Rose appears to tick some of those boxes.

For those that didn’t hear the interview with Jennings last week, he explained they’ve been looking to mirror previously successful sides from this level in terms of squad composition, size, interactions with different positions etc. I’d imagine because Rose has been part of successful sides in the division without the goal stats being great, suggests he’s the first part of a complicated sounding puzzle.
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That Pete Rourke normally gets it spot on TBF so would expect Rose to sign .
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Fish shop queue rumour - Wilson been approached - will definitely sign along with Rose
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Oh wait… there actually is an “incoming!”


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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Did he mean this one though? I’m sure there’s about a dozen Danny Roses in English football.
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Finally, away we go! Looks like the wait was worth it, sounds like more than one today.


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Given the sheer amount of 'I hear Ryan has officially signed' posts bulding up I suggest Ska rules with an iron fist and should he NOT now sign that point deductions are brought in, possibly even accounts deleted and the user starts again, much like a phoenix club. (Emoji needed here?)

🤞 Fingers crossed for news today


I think the same should apply if the transfer window slams shut at the end of August and Charles Vernam isn't here too. 🎣
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Did he mean this one though? I’m sure there’s about a dozen Danny Roses in English football.


Yes, we could get the one we had before back!!!!
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If we’re quick we could maybe get another page out of this before the signing is announced.
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O'Rourke is always right. I'm very, very happy to sign Danny Rose! A great start to the signings.
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Is Danny Rose the smaller of the 2 strikers who played against us at Stevenage in the last game of the season?


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are these the hands of the new keeper?
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Not a rumour but a thought....Billy Sharp released by Sheff Utd. He's 37. He would be a great signing for a season or 2.

We would have to put away 20 years of animosity toward him but I'd love to see him here.


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Sharp is joining Bratfud isn't he?


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Putting this out there - I wouldn't be surprised to see it being Max re-signing...  


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Big Hands- New Keeper - I called it waaaaaaay back on page 7 :

With Crocombe off to Falkirk, Iceland have finally decided to apologise for the cod wars and to show they are truly sorry are facilitating the transfer of Jokull Andresson to Town on a season long loan from Reading.
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Is Danny Rose the smaller of the 2 strikers who played against us at Stevenage in the last game of the season?


Yep. He's short, stocky, difficult to knock off the ball and generally a pain in the bottom to play against. Would be a good signing.

If we sign him, I tend to think we'll not see Lloyd coming back, whether on loan or permanently.
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Weird, u know, but Google RB and zoom in on the hands 😳🤣

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Weird, u know, but Google RB and zoom in on the hands 😳🤣



They look like most other people’s? 😂


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From previous seasons they are likely to announce bang on the hour, whichever hour that may be.
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Quoted from Mikey_345


They look like most other people’s? 😂


Only 10 fingers, so we can rule out it being a signing from Lincoln
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Weird, u know, but Google RB and zoom in on the hands 😳🤣



Well he has the correct number of fingers.......

..........so he's not from Caistor......................or Scunny
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Looks like Ryan Bennett hands to me
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Got a little shiver with that first club message
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Quoted from Maringer


Yep. He's short, stocky, difficult to knock off the ball and generally a pain in the bottom to play against. Would be a good signing.

If we sign him, I tend to think we'll not see Lloyd coming back, whether on loan or permanently.


Cheers - I thought he was lively and he made some good runs coming from a little bit wider and running diagonally into the danger area. He made Maher sweat.


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Quoted from LocalLadGTFC
Sod the signing, who guessed correctly on how many pages before an incoming?  


Son of Cod – page 91
OddShapedBalls – page 103
Madeleymariner – page 89
Fishcake63 – page 128
Lukeo – page 169

Gonna take some frantic posting from Lukeo to take this away from Fishcake63.
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New Danny Rose! Well I'll be Damned!
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Quoted from Mikey_345


They look like most other people’s? 😂


Nah, weird and spindly.

I an aware its Rose btw 🤣
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Good signing for league 2 level is Rose.  A striker all defences hate to play against. Absolute Nuisance
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Yeah that’s fake mate.


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Twitter is weird, sometimes. Why bother pissing around creating a fake twitter handle like that? Not exactly funny or top bantz, is it?
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Yeah that’s fake mate.


bloody hell, got me good and proper
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Quoted from Stew0_0
Good signing for league 2 level is Rose.  A striker all defences hate to play against. Absolute Nuisance


Agreed.  He's always impressed me, always buzzing about and causing problems.

In complete agreement with the posters who make note that we're using data in far more detail than just looking at his goals per game on Wikipedia.  

He's not a main striker but I'll put it out there, he'll comfortably break double figures next season if he plays most games.
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Great signing to kick us off, expect another one today.
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Excellent signing that! Improves our final third hugely.


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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Is Rose essentially a better version of Lloyd?
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5 figure fee according to Stevenage


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Absolutely delighted with this and been an absolute pain to play against in the past.
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Great start now lets see if there is a 6ft plus striker with a bit of pace to go alongside him
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Quoted from OddShapedBalls
Is Rose essentially a better version of Lloyd?


Dunno if he's a better version, time will tell on that.

But I would imagine that having signed Rose, we're not in for Lloyd.
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Quoted from Madeleymariner
Great start now lets see if there is a 6ft plus striker with a bit of pace to go alongside him


DOn't think Billy Sharp is that fast or tall tbh.


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from Stevenage site:

Stevenage Football Club has agreed an undisclosed five-figure fee with Grimsby Town for the permanent transfer of Danny Rose…

Forming part of our 2022/23 promotion-winning team, the forward leaves Stevenage with over fifty appearances to his name, moving closer to home and joining Grimsby Town in League Two.

The Club thanks Danny and wishes him the best of luck in this next stage of his career.


First time moving closer to home has helped us in a while!
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Quoted from sam gy
5 figure fee according to Stevenage


If true, could be £10k or £99k.... I would expect that we've paid in the region of £35-50k.

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Good start
Right amount of past performance and still a good age
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Quoted from Madeleymariner
Great start now lets see if there is a 6ft plus striker with a bit of pace to go alongside him


I know he's only 5ft8 but Rose is very good in the air. I've wanted him here for a good few years as he's always impressed me.
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New Danny Rose! Well I'll be Damned!
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As a long time Damned fan this may be the best tease the club has ever done.

I'm looking forward to us signing Jeff Neat, Neat, Neat and new signing for the lady's team called Eloise.


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Quoted from Son of Cod


Son of Cod – page 91
OddShapedBalls – page 103
Madeleymariner – page 89
Fishcake63 – page 128
Lukeo – page 169

Gonna take some frantic posting from Lukeo to take this away from Fishcake63.


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Always worth checking the Twitter handle, there's a naughty '1' in there. Clicking the Handle Profile also states it's a parody.


Agreed, and now deleted. I was like a kid at Christmas!
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I like the way The Damned rocked up Eloise but it just lacks the emotion of the original (yes I am old)
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Quoted from Poojah
Yeah that’s fake mate.


The 0 and 1 in the address instead of O and l in Official gives it away….
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Quoted from sam gy
5 figure fee according to Stevenage


I understand why clubs only announce as much of that, but this absolutely frustrates the life out of me.

At this level the difference between £10,000 and £99,999 is massive.  
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Chuffed with that. Clever player and gives defences constant problems.
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Agreed, and now deleted. I was like a kid at Christmas!


Yepo, deleted my quoted reply as it was a rather page-hogging image


Looks a good signing.
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That's a great start that to the summer signings 👏


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Quoted from Madeleymariner
I like the way The Damned rocked up Eloise but it just lacks the emotion of the original (yes I am old)


agreed, and to be honest I don't see how they thought they needed to do it...their own catalogue is stunning
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I understand why clubs only announce as much of that, but this absolutely frustrates the life out of me.

At this level the difference between £10,000 and £99,999 is massive.  


Thank yourself lucky it wasn't a six figure fee, some people would be having a meltdown thinking we paid £999,999 for him.
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A Sensible signing that…

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As a long time Damned fan this may be the best tease the club has ever done.

I'm looking forward to us signing Jeff Neat, Neat, Neat and new signing for the lady's team called Eloise.


I can’t confirm that my daughter Eloise is presently ‘in talks’ with signhills


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A Sensible signing that…



Hopefully he will be a problem child for the opposition defences to deal with. By the way, did you see his hair? neat, neat, neat! Eye thang ewe
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The decision making from Mullarkey puzzles me slightly if he has signed. Rejected us for Rochdale when he surely knew they were absolutely doomed, now he clearly doesn’t want to be back in Non League so he heads back here instead.

I’m all for it as he’s a good player, but it strikes me as some very poor decision making.
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The decision making from Mullarkey puzzles me slightly if he has signed. Rejected us for Rochdale when he surely knew they were absolutely doomed, now he clearly doesn’t want to be back in Non League so he heads back here instead.


Pretty sure it was us that pulled the plug on that, according to people on the Altrincham end.


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The decision making from Mullarkey puzzles me slightly if he has signed. Rejected us for Rochdale when he surely knew they were absolutely doomed, now he clearly doesn’t want to be back in Non League so he heads back here instead.

I’m all for it as he’s a good player, but it strikes me as some very poor decision making.


Not sure you could call it poor decision making. Got a  chance in the football league and only 40 minutes from his house as oppose to 2hr 40 minutes to Grimsby. On some occasions think we have to accept that for all manner  of reasons including finance, family, schooling - players will sometimes  opt to stay as close to home as the possibly can. Sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't.
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Josh Emmanuel became available so we did not pursue the Rochdale guy .

Meant to be decent by all accounts and good on the ball .
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Pretty sure it was us that pulled the plug on that, according to people on the Altrincham end.


Didn't we pull the plug when Emmanuelle became available?
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Rochdale were only two points off 3rd bottom when Mularkey signed too.

https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/league-two/31-january-2023/
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Speaking of Emmanuel, he's linked with Wigan, Port Vale and Peterborough - although this report just says linked rather than even hinting at a source. https://www.peterboroughtoday......ty-full-back-4172872

Would be shocked if any League One side saw enough in him last season to be tempted.  Still wouldn't shock me if he ended up back here.  If Mularkey comes in that gives us another right sided centre-back/right back but would only leave Efete as the right wing-back (a position I'm personally not keen on him playing).  

Not saying we'll be 3 at the back all season, but I definitely think we'll use it on a fairly frequent basis.
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Didn't we pull the plug when Emmanuelle became available?


Some seem to think so, not convinced though. Emmanuel by Hursts admission was only ever short term whilst Mullarkey is a decent RB his main role is as a CB, so that doesn’t quite add up to me. Could have been lots of reasons and I presume they were legitimate at the time… hope he signs as think he looks decent.

Possibly, if I remember rightly, we were really short in terms of players eligible in the cups, maybe that’s what swung it for Emmanuel due to him not being cup tied?


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Mullarkey was very good when we played Rochdale, would be a great signing in my opinion. I left the game thinking it was a shame we had not signed him as he would have been a first team player for us
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Efete, Emmanuel, Mullarkey, Glennon, Amos, Waterfall, Bennett and Maher would be an incredible defence to choose from at this level.
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Peter O’Rourke reporting via Football insider, again, that Mullarkey agreed and set to be announced. As good as a confirmation from him.


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Mullarkey all but confirmed then. Two positive signings to kick things off. Lovely stuff.
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Mullarkey all but confirmed then. Two positive signings to kick things off. Lovely stuff.


Mullarkey’s a centre half who can play at right back, correct? A quick Google returns various answers about his height, ranging anywhere from 5ft 8” to 6ft 4”, which is a fairly significant swing.

His old profile on the Alty side describes him as “tall, commanding and composed”, and he looks fairly tall in photos so I’m guessing it’s something closer to the latter.


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Mullarkey’s a centre half who can play at right back, correct? A quick Google returns various answers about his height, ranging anywhere from 5ft 8” to 6ft 4”, which is a fairly significant swing.

His old profile on the Alty side describes him as “tall, commanding and composed”, and he looks fairly tall in photos so I’m guessing it’s something closer to the latter.

Yes, he played as a right-sided CB in a back three last season for Rochdale.

https://www.flashscore.co.uk/match/pnLvI1dF/#/match-summary/lineups
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Yes, he played as a right-sided CB in a back three last season for Rochdale.

https://www.flashscore.co.uk/match/pnLvI1dF/#/match-summary/lineups


He’s on 5ft 8 so isn’t he a RB that could cover CB
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He’s on 5ft 8 so isn’t he a RB that could cover CB


I think that’s an error that’s been repeated across different outlets. He looks way taller than that.



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I think that’s an error that’s been repeated across different outlets. He looks way taller than that.



Is he the one on the left or the right?

Perhaps that is where the mistake has come from...

Transfermarkt has him at 6'4 which is usually very accurate for data.


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Looked very composed when he played for Dale at BP
Very pleased if it's him
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You couldn’t ask for a more solid pair of signings to kick start the window
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Add Bennett to our defensive options and we’re not far away at all in that area, are we?  


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Great start to the window, really pleased to see us paying fees for targets Paul clearly wants. Trust the process.
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Is this the chap that numerous posters said would not swap the bright lights of the Manchester area for the nightlife, the city feel, and the close proximity to other big cities the last time we were in for him?  
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As far as signings go I would say that’s 2 very good solid signings to kick us off. Would love to see Bennett announced over the weekend aswell, which I add to Poojah’s comment I would think that’s all the back line sorted for the next year although I would love an attacking left back to come and give Glennon competition but I don’t think we will run with 3 left backs. I’m hoping that we have that marquee midfielder who’s been there and done it in a few leagues above with experience like a Moncur, Pratley, Smallwood character.

Great times to look forward to and can’t wait for the rest of the window, absolutely delighted so far.
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Hurst specifically mentions his ability on the ball and to play on the right of a 3 in the press release. A back 3 with Bennett central, Maher left and Mullarkey right would be a very good footballing defence for League 2.
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I think the draw of a free week away in Spain is a good selling point for any player umming and ahhing about signing. Both Mullarkey and Rose look a bit pastey so could do with a bit of sun before the official club photos are taken
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I think the draw of a free week away in Spain is a good selling point for any player umming and ahhing about signing. Both Mullarkey and Rose look a bit pastey so could do with a bit of sun before the official club photos are taken


Hurst definitely doesn't however, must have been some sun in Portugal or he's been on the sunbeds
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Hurst specifically mentions his ability on the ball and to play on the right of a 3 in the press release. A back 3 with Bennett central, Maher left and Mullarkey right would be a very good footballing defence for League 2.


It really would. Of course, to take full advantage of that you need midfielders comfortable receiving the ball, and I wonder if we get more joy out of Hunt next season playing that way. Hurst’s no idiot, and he didn’t give him a 3-year deal for nothing.


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Hurst definitely doesn't however, must have been some sun in Portugal or he's been on the sunbeds


He's like Madge from Benidorm.
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Is this the chap that numerous posters said would not swap the bright lights of the Manchester area for the nightlife, the city feel, and the close proximity to other big cities the last time we were in for him?  


No it's the one people said had probably joined Rochdale rather than us because it was a lot nearer his house.
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Buzzing better than delighted?
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Buzzing better than delighted?


I'd say so, especially when you factor in the two exclamation marks.


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These are great signings, we need a player that is good in the box, ok, he hasn't scored many for Stevenage but did well at Mansfield, i think he has had a couple of disruptive seasons with injuries. I've only seen him in highlights and has looked good, just what we need to finish our conversions, as clearly we are missing someone of his Ilk.

Toby, according to Rochdale's forum are livid to losing Mullarkey even if they couldn't do much about his release clause.

Can't wait to see more quality acquisitions.  I think we could do a couple of speed demons please Mr Hurst haha.

Keep up the good work  




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It really would. Of course, to take full advantage of that you need midfielders comfortable receiving the ball, and I wonder if we get more joy out of Hunt next season playing that way. Hurst’s no idiot, and he didn’t give him a 3-year deal for nothing.


I think working out how to get the best out of Alex Hunt was probably high on the list of considerations at the end of last season.
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Hurst specifically mentions his ability on the ball and to play on the right of a 3 in the press release. A back 3 with Bennett central, Maher left and Mullarkey right would be a very good footballing defence for League 2.


Where's captain Waterfall in that?

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One of these days a new signing is going to say, "quite frankly I'm dreading having to report for pre-season training. It's a crappy little club in a dreadful location but when push comes to shove beggars can't be choosers. When my agent called me and said Grimsby were interested I almost threw up."
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Buzzing better than delighted?


Lightyears ahead


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Bennet isn’t coming. Let’s just put that false hope to bed
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I think working out how to get the best out of Alex Hunt was probably high on the list of considerations at the end of last season.


Battling for a place but he's 32 and into the last year of his contract and I suspect we are planning further ahead than that.
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Wilson up next . Unless a spanner in the works

Abu eisa is defo in the mix.

Need a monster centre mid next
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One of these days a new signing is going to say, "quite frankly I'm dreading having to report for pre-season training. It's a crappy little club in a dreadful location but when push comes to shove beggars can't be choosers. When my agent called me and said Grimsby were interested I almost threw up."


To be fair, it's harder than you might think to sound eloquent and original when you're asked the usual, generic questions from media types. I remember walking down the steps of the Darlington Arena after we'd beaten them 2-0 to give ourselves a very slim chance of staying up with two games to go, and completely out of the blue I had a mic shoved in my face by a Radio Humberside reporter. I do a reasonable amount of public speaking, but my mind went blank and I basically found myself there, dumstruck, reeling off a series of clichés. It went something like:

"Well, yeah, obviously, it's good to get the 3 points today, and it means we get to go again next week against Barnet, but we know there's no easy games at this level. That's a real six-pointer now but we'll just have to take it one game at a time, give 110% and hope we can make it squeeky bum time on the last day at Burton. It's a funny old game; if we leave it all on the pitch you never know in football".

I thought it sounded bad at the time but I had the misfortune of hearing myself back as I drove home and I very nearly crashed the car into a tree.

On purpose.


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Hope we sign someone who doesn’t look like a Love Island contestant at some point. Need an ugly illegitimate on the pitch to match us lot.
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Quoted from monkeyboy
Wilson up next . Unless a spanner in the works

Abu eisa is defo in the mix.

Need a monster centre mid next


Seeing as you called Danny Rose, who I thought wouldn't be here due to signing a contract extension with Stevenage proves you right. Interesting about Bennett as I would think now is the best time we have chance to fit him in. Fingers crossed for a few more through the door.
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Would be another very good signing.
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Another excellent bit of business.

Last season, we scored too few goals and conceded a few too many, so this is going someway to setting that straight hopefully.

Wouldn't take much of a swing to get us around the top 7.
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Seeing as you called Danny Rose, who I thought wouldn't be here due to signing a contract extension with Stevenage proves you right. Interesting about Bennett as I would think now is the best time we have chance to fit him in. Fingers crossed for a few more through the door.


Called mullarky too a while back.
Eisa is almost certain but I’m told bennet isn’t really interested in town.
Guess it may be don’t excrement on your own doorstep, let’s face it if he doesn’t play for town he gets less attention around town. More comfortable for him.
Wilson to be announced soon . Not 100% when but he is
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Hope we sign someone who doesn’t look like a Love Island contestant at some point. Need an ugly illegitimate on the pitch to match us lot.


Does the tattoo-free modern footballer even exist? I know they have a lot of free time, but you'd think they could find some other sort of a hobby.
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Great day of business.


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Does the tattoo-free modern footballer even exist? I know they have a lot of free time, but you'd think they could find some other sort of a hobby.


Some fill their time betting on their own team to lose.


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Hope we sign someone who doesn’t look like a Love Island contestant at some point. Need an ugly illegitimate on the pitch to match us lot.


Aye, today's teeth really are first class. Could do with Iwan Roberts signing to balance it out a bit.


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Quoted from buckstown
Mullarkey from Rochdale - he was very good when we played them and can play right back or central
Question is, does he have the ambition? Assume he chose Rochdale instead of us in January for geographical reasons


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Battling for a place but he's 32 and into the last year of his contract and I suspect we are planning further ahead than that.


intercourse me. He’s aged 10 years in a month and lost a year off his contract?
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Good business on Transfer Thursday. I hope Transfer Tuesday is just as good.


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Major conflict then with Bennett ranging from “done deal” to “not happening” from people ITK.

Interesting.
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Major conflict then with Bennett ranging from “done deal” to “not happening” from people ITK.

Interesting.


And the regular ITK posters seem quiet

We need confirmation it would add extra points !
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Quoted from Mappers


And the regular ITK posters seem quiet

We need confirmation it would add extra points !


Well Surrey97 said on the 6th June....

I don’t know whether the rumours are true are not regarding Bennett, but I hope they are true. Seems to make sense after it almost happened last Summer, especially now that Smith has gone.



Scratch that, just been told it’s a done deal, to be announced officially later this week. Well done Mendonca on breaking it first.
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Good business so far, I feel it's gonna be the best window for years.
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Quoted from LH
Hope we sign someone who doesn’t look like a Love Island contestant at some point. Need an ugly illegitimate on the pitch to match us lot.
Marketing strategy to get more fanny hot women down to Blundell Park.


Performance / Top Scorers / Assists / Discipline - Grimsby Town Statistics >> https://www.espn.co.uk/football/team/squad/_/id/386/eng.grimsby
Form Over Last 10 Games - Grimsby Town >> https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/grimsby-town/form-guide/ten
Player Contracts - Grimsby Town >> http://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=4202
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Marketing strategy to get more fanny down to the games.


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I'm fairly sure I saw someone refer to something PH said about the transfer window in an interview recently.  I've looked on Mariners Player but can't see anything there, is there another site where some o0f the interviews are posted?
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Surrey97 at risk of losing his reputation as the go to guy if Bennett doesn’t sign. Squeaky bum time for Surrey!
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Surrey97 at risk of losing his reputation as the go to guy if Bennett doesn’t sign. Squeaky bum time for Surrey!


and as I pointed out, he suggested big news after the bank holiday. I don't think 10 days after can possibly count. He's losing his touch, he's on the wane, his legs have gone  
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Surrey97 at risk of losing his reputation as the go to guy if Bennett doesn’t sign. Squeaky bum time for Surrey!


Yeah now I’ve had time to be happy about todays signings it’s hard to ignore the stench in the air and I can’t help but think it might be the smell of Surrey shitting his pants
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Nah, Surrey must have accumulated enough points to still be ahead - even if they’re wrong in confirming Mendonca’s info.


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I still stand by what I was told 👍


Hurstillian in your single-minded stubbornness ! Probably why you're usually at the right end of the table, come the end of the season!
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Fighting talk from Surrey, you love to see it.
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Really pleased with business yesterday!!!

Some posters suggested the following players are all but done:

Donovan Wilson
Shaq Forde - Seems to have gone quiet
Ryan Bennett - Was this a little premature and just a rumour?
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One thing that people need to remember is that we will have numerous offers in for players but their contracts don’t expire until June 30th so they can sit on their hands for a while and wait and see if a bigger wage is offered elsewhere.
Hence this is why what we have seen upto now is fee paid signings.

I fully expect some great pedigree coming after the end of June.
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fighting talk from Surrey - love it!

btw don't think it's been mentioned. Dale have confirmed that Mullarkey triggered a relegation clause ( do i get a point for predicting that??   )and that we paid a fee for him.
spending money on 2 players in a single day?? that's surely unheard of in GTFC history?

it does prompt the question - is there a big sale coming up to help balance the books a little?
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Quoted from forza ivano
fighting talk from Surrey - love it!

btw don't think it's been mentioned. Dale have confirmed that Mullarkey triggered a relegation clause ( do i get a point for predicting that??   )and that we paid a fee for him.
spending money on 2 players in a single day?? that's surely unheard of in GTFC history?

it does prompt the question - is there a big sale coming up to help balance the books a little?


I'd probably say it's Jason flexing a bit of that FA Cup money, didn't he say it would all be going into the playing budget? Would expect most of our signings still to be Free Agent's, but I think at some stage Hurst has slid a note under the door Mike Bassett style with a shopping list on it. The first two signings are shrewd. Wise spending or intelligent recruitment whatever you want to call it is key this season.


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Quoted from forza ivano
fighting talk from Surrey - love it!

btw don't think it's been mentioned. Dale have confirmed that Mullarkey triggered a relegation clause ( do i get a point for predicting that??   )and that we paid a fee for him.
spending money on 2 players in a single day?? that's surely unheard of in GTFC history?

it does prompt the question - is there a big sale coming up to help balance the books a little?


I don't think so. I think the money made from the cup run last season can easily account for these transfer fees paid.

The cup run money was a one off extra income so when you think about it, and I'm sure this is the owners view on it too, it wouldn't necessarily make sense to put that extra money into the wage budget for this season. Because unless we get to the quarter finals of the FA Cup again this season we'd just have to reduce the budget again the following year or struggle to pay some players brought in during the budget increase from this extra cash sitting there.

To me, thats makes sense as to why we're using this extra money to pay fees for players rather than necessarily on a longer-term, perhaps unsustainable, idea of it adding to the wage budget.

I'm sure when our income streams increase that are sustainable or at least likely to be repeated (I.e. the new level of season ticket sales), the owners will pass this onto Hurst to give a bigger salary budget.


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btw don't think it's been mentioned. Dale have confirmed that Mullarkey triggered a relegation clause ( do i get a point for predicting that??   )and that we paid a fee for him.
spending money on 2 players in a single day?? that's surely unheard of in GTFC history?

it does prompt the question - is there a big sale coming up to help balance the books a little?


It’s a good point tbh. In the (dark) past there’s been a lack of spending and therefore quite possibly a lack of any significant success. I think we can all agree that last year WAS a successful season and the coffers were somewhat boosted.

But, what I think it is down to is the confidence and trust that JS and AP have in the management team and that they have in the players.



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Any news on Vernam? it’s seems to have gone very quiet on him from the speculation at the start of this thread
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Quoted from forza ivano
fighting talk from Surrey - love it!

btw don't think it's been mentioned. Dale have confirmed that Mullarkey triggered a relegation clause ( do i get a point for predicting that??   )and that we paid a fee for him.
spending money on 2 players in a single day?? that's surely unheard of in GTFC history?

it does prompt the question - is there a big sale coming up to help balance the books a little?


You're right paying fees for 2 players on the same day is not the norm.

1878 and PH don't strike me a people who would spend money on money they "may" be getting in for a player, I think we're just spending some of the budget early, which again is a departure.

Interesting though before the Stevenage game PH said he was talking to a couple of players about signing, as these two lads where in promotion and relegation battles I'd be surprised if it was them, maybe some more lads coming in pretty soon?  

Really happy with both signings, especially Rose who is a pest, more of the same to come I hope.


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Any news on Vernam? it’s seems to have gone very quiet on him from the speculation at the start of this thread


The actual signing of 2 real players has sadly dampened the frenzy of speculation. Some will be almost offended that PH has a plan and is acting quite early in the window. It's almost like he knows what he's doing.

Give it a week or so.


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Said it months back, I’d be happy to see us pay fees for players if it helps us get business done well & early. In years gone by, these two might’ve been on the wish list, but we would’ve been sat around for another 6 weeks hoping their clubs release them or the fee drops, and someone else swoops in for the sake of £25k.

Still plenty of work to be done but a good, positive start.
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Boo Hiss Town spending money good on players thats not the way we do things here, sack Hurst, shoot the board   etc.
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Very happy with these two signings, Starting to show some intent .
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When we came up in 2016/17, these were our summer signings (no earlier than July), the only players here that were any good were Danny Andrew, Danny Collins and arguably Zak Mills.


1 July 2016     LB     Danny Andrew     Fleetwood Town     
1 July 2016     CM     Republic of Ireland     James Berrett     York City     
1 July 2016     RW     England     Tom Bolarinwa     Sutton United     
1 July 2016     CB     England     Andrew Boyce     Scunthorpe United     
1 July 2016     CF     Antigua and Barbuda     Rhys Browne     Aldershot Town     
1 July 2016     CF     England     Ashley Chambers     Dagenham & Redbridge     
1 July 2016     RB     England     Ben Davies     Portsmouth     
1 July 2016     LB     England     Dan Jones     Hartlepool United     
1 July 2016     CM     England     Sean McAllister     Scunthorpe United     
1 July 2016     RB     England     Zak Mills     Boston United     
1 July 2016     CM     England     Luke Summerfield     York City     
30 July 2016     CF     England     Scott Vernon     Shrewsbury Town     
12 September 2016     CB     Wales     Danny Collins     Rotherham United     

Albeit this team performed very well initially, it wasn't very good - central midfield was especially poor.

The following summer transfers were especially underwhelming, where I will only mention Siriki Dembele and Mitch Rose (for those last few games anyway). I never understood why we let Shaun go, and replace him with Nathan Clarke, who was guilty of that horrendous back pass from a free kick.

All in all, I am very excited so far. Indeed, the murmurs of Bennett, Vernam etc are all hearsay at this point, but Rose and Mallarkey represent some very astute signings.

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I think Summerfield was better than most remember. Unfortunately he was tarred by association with the dire James Berrett.
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When we came up in 2016/17, these were our summer signings (no earlier than July), the only players here that were any good were Danny Andrew, Danny Collins and arguably Zak Mills.


1 July 2016     LB     Danny Andrew     Fleetwood Town     
1 July 2016     CM     Republic of Ireland     James Berrett     York City     
1 July 2016     RW     England     Tom Bolarinwa     Sutton United     
1 July 2016     CB     England     Andrew Boyce     Scunthorpe United     
1 July 2016     CF     Antigua and Barbuda     Rhys Browne     Aldershot Town     
1 July 2016     CF     England     Ashley Chambers     Dagenham & Redbridge     
1 July 2016     RB     England     Ben Davies     Portsmouth     
1 July 2016     LB     England     Dan Jones     Hartlepool United     
1 July 2016     CM     England     Sean McAllister     Scunthorpe United     
1 July 2016     RB     England     Zak Mills     Boston United     
1 July 2016     CM     England     Luke Summerfield     York City     
30 July 2016     CF     England     Scott Vernon     Shrewsbury Town     
12 September 2016     CB     Wales     Danny Collins     Rotherham United     

Albeit this team performed very well initially, it wasn't very good - central midfield was especially poor.

The following summer transfers were especially underwhelming, where I will only mention Siriki Dembele and Mitch Rose (for those last few games anyway). I never understood why we let Shaun go, and replace him with Nathan Clarke, who was guilty of that horrendous back pass from a free kick.

All in all, I am very excited so far. Indeed, the murmurs of Bennett, Vernam etc are all hearsay at this point, but Rose and Mallarkey represent some very astute signings.

UTM


Ben Davies was a good signing and is still here
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I never understood why we let Shaun go, and replace him with Nathan Clarke

This was probably the worst thing Slade did in his underwhelmingly poor second spell.

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Ben Davies was a good signing and is still here

Yep, beat me to it. Davies was decent and it's certainly paid off in the long run too.
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Ben Davies would fall into the same category that Bennett would should he sign. A player of great ability who we would be fortunate to have due to their wife being from here.
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Perhaps the strangest one from that list is left-back Dan Jones, who I can remember almost nothing about other than him playing in Bignot’s frankenstein experiment against Donny at home when they spanked us 1-5 (and subsequently sealed Bignot’s fate).

He’s had a decent career since leaving us and has played 30-odd times for Port Vale in League One this season. We clearly didn’t see the best of him, perhaps in part due to how good Danny Andrew was.


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I think Summerfield was better than most remember. Unfortunately he was tarred by association with the dire James Berrett.


Summerfield was decent, but definitely had a big error in him. Think his confidence was shot by the end of his time here.
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Summerfield was decent, but definitely had a big error in him. Think his confidence was shot by the end of his time here.


😂 He was Player of the Year in his last season!
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Yep, Summerfield didn't lend himself to the BP faithful at first, purely because he was keeping Disley out the side. He wasn't great initially, but towards the end of his time here was probably one of the first names on the team sheet.


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Boo Hiss Town spending money good on players thats not the way we do things here, sack Hurst, shoot the board   etc.


Double Boo Hiss for Hurst signing the players he wants rather than those recommended by the Fishy football experts.


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Donovan announcement imminent



Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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Sauce?


That Twitter


Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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Town Tweet a goal of Kev Donovan. Cryptic stuff


Judging by that Tweet, maybe we've signed a sh*t keeper.


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If you dive deep into the stats of the Sutton guy, it actually tells a better picture and would be indicative of the moneyball technique being used. His career is a fascinating one being played across multiple countries. He started at Bristol Rovers and then Wolves paid a fee for him, when at Wolves he played in the cup competitions and the league, mainly used because of his explosive pace. Went out on loan to Port Vale and scored 1 in 8. Went out on loan to Spains equivalent of L2 and scored 6 in 16. Returned to England and went to Exeter replacing Trist Abrahams, only started 3 times and came off the bench 7 times. Career is then badly hampered by Covid and the seasons curtailing for the next few years until he signs for Sutton and scored 7 in 16 to help them promoted to L2.

There’s obviously a player there based on his pedigree and his assets seem to be very similar to Trist Abrahams in the fact of he’s very explosive with his pace. Never seems to of had a solid run of games in his career barring the last 2/3 years.


Looking into his stats from last season - Suttons main attacking outlet last season creating the most chances for the squad. Seems the data driven approach has found this one and him and Rose play into Hursts philosphy of goals are gonna come from all over the pitch rather than one single striker scoring you 30. Has a very clinical conversion rate and was one of the fastest players recorded in the league last season, could well be a diamond in the rough.
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When we came up in 2016/17, these were our summer signings (no earlier than July), the only players here that were any good were Danny Andrew, Danny Collins and arguably Zak Mills.


1 July 2016     LB     Danny Andrew     Fleetwood Town     
1 July 2016     CM     Republic of Ireland     James Berrett     York City     
1 July 2016     RW     England     Tom Bolarinwa     Sutton United     
1 July 2016     CB     England     Andrew Boyce     Scunthorpe United     
1 July 2016     CF     Antigua and Barbuda     Rhys Browne     Aldershot Town     
1 July 2016     CF     England     Ashley Chambers     Dagenham & Redbridge     
1 July 2016     RB     England     Ben Davies     Portsmouth     
1 July 2016     LB     England     Dan Jones     Hartlepool United     
1 July 2016     CM     England     Sean McAllister     Scunthorpe United     
1 July 2016     RB     England     Zak Mills     Boston United     
1 July 2016     CM     England     Luke Summerfield     York City     
30 July 2016     CF     England     Scott Vernon     Shrewsbury Town     
12 September 2016     CB     Wales     Danny Collins     Rotherham United     

Albeit this team performed very well initially, it wasn't very good - central midfield was especially poor.

The following summer transfers were especially underwhelming, where I will only mention Siriki Dembele and Mitch Rose (for those last few games anyway). I never understood why we let Shaun go, and replace him with Nathan Clarke, who was guilty of that horrendous back pass from a free kick.

All in all, I am very excited so far. Indeed, the murmurs of Bennett, Vernam etc are all hearsay at this point, but Rose and Mallarkey represent some very astute signings.

UTM


I think the club is pretty different to when these lads where signed.


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/06/09/grimsby-town-join-spfl-side-in-race-for-league-two-defender/

Town and Livingston are being linked with Tranmere defender Kyle Jameson


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I think Summerfield was better than most remember. Unfortunately he was tarred by association with the dire James Berrett.


Sickeningly I believe that we actually paid a fee for berrett. Not much, around £10-15k, but Jesus Christ!!
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Anything you say?



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Fish shop queue rumour - Wilson been approached - will definitely sign along with Rose


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Sickeningly I believe that we actually paid a fee for berrett. Not much, around £10-15k, but Jesus Christ!!


Undisclosed fee.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36673272

Unbelievable.

We can do to death the penny pinching that was going on at the club at that time and in many ways it's evident with the calibre of player we brought in.  

But that transfer window really wasn't Hurst's finest moment as Town manager.   He was absolutely right to try and improve a side that fell over the line to get promoted, but he somehow managed to reduce the quality of it.

Hopefully complete opposite to this summer. 3 very encouraging signings so far with hopefully a few more to come.  I get the feeling we've not had the big hitters in yet...
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James Berrret had a very good spell at Carlisle a few years before signing for us in league 1, at one point getting double figures in goals from central midfield in league 1, so it seems that there was a player somewhere in Berrett, or rather used to be, i wonder where, how and why it went so wrong for him.
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To be fair those players were doing alright for Hurst before he left for  Shrewsbury but yeah really enjoying the calibre of signings we’ve made so far
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PH indicates that another couple of signings on paper are close to being done
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PH indicates that another couple of signings on paper are close to being done


Where is this info from, is it from an interview with PH, if so, where can we find it?

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PH indicates that another couple of signings on paper are close to being done


Tweet 1667154583259426819 will appear here...


Think that’s probably done for the week then. Maybe back end of next week
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Quoted from LocalLadGTFC
PH indicates that another couple of signings on paper are close to being done


Hopefully not too far away, early next week perhaps. Looks like all the interviews etc were filmed on Wednesday so fingers crossed things have moved on well since then - looks like we are ticking first choice's off quite quick. Eisa is a name that seems to be getting mentioned abit aswell.

An interesting point from PH interview is that it sounds like Mullarkey made the decision in January and not us - which surprised me.

Also it's really good listening to Donovan Wilson that we seem to be holding video calls and putting together packages to not just show them about Grimsby Town, the cup run and crowds etc, but also how Paul wants to play and to show how they fit into that. Would imagine the away crowds at those televised cup games will be a nice little tool for us to use.

Really pleased with this week, 3 really good and smart signings in my opinion. A good start. Ed Walker formally of the D3D4 Podcast describes our start as 'with intent', knows his stuff does Ed especially at this level - i'll take that!


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So far all signings were mentioned by fans in the know.

Think there was a list of about 12 possibilities. Who is left now? PH suggested maybe 2 next week with more to come afterwards…..
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Joe Ironside has signed for Doncaster so can put that one to bed .
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2 more signed by page 160 then??

Looks like hoof ball is off the agenda, and fast fit interplay is what he wants this coming season.

That will really suit Hunt's long probing passing game at last.

Be interesting to guess the next 2 out of Hurst's magic hat - good so far !!
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My dog is called Wilson.


My cat is called Buzz if PH fancies completing the set.
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Being told we are still heavily linked to Dallas. Clubs wanted him to see out his contract as to prevent a bidding war hence why Chesterfield had him on loan instead.

Now that both Soli and Chesterfield didn't get promoted, we are one of the favourites to sign him ( other one being exeter )

Also told Alex pattison has quite a few offers, but we are one of them.

Two very good players and I'd be happy with either ( Dallas wages would be higher considering what he turned down from Chesterfield and Soli )


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Quoted from acko338
2 more signed by page 160 then??



Reckon more than that, it's a weekend with no football - this threads gunna have allsorts on it before we sign someone. GollyGTFC telling us the rest of their pets names, Lukeo posting he's horny on the wrong forum again, the usual stuff.

Wouldn't put it past the club doing what they did this week, signing them and announcing together later in the week.


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Pete O’Rouke tweeted Swansea and PNE and other clubs after Glennon
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Pete O’Rouke tweeted Swansea and PNE and other clubs after Glennon


I would be gutted about this, I don't know why but I have an unhealthy love of Anthony Glennon.

I'd be surprised if clubs at that level want him just yet, still got along way to develop. But, if they do... get your cheque books out!


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I like Glennon, think he's good.
But i can't imagine him playing league 1 football, never mind championship.
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Full back was one place I wanted us to improve, both sides. Really shocked to see Glennon linked with them as I don't think he really pulled up any trees last season, no doubting his ability but personally think Danny Andrew was a more complete player and think we could definitely improve there.
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Reckon more than that, it's a weekend with no football - this threads gunna have allsorts on it before we sign someone. GollyGTFC telling us the rest of their pets names, Lukeo posting he's horny on the wrong forum again, the usual stuff.

Wouldn't put it past the club doing what they did this week, signing them and announcing together later in the week.


People actually think we sign players and delay the announcement?

I used to think like that until Mendoncas Right Peg told me I was deluded for thinking we would do something like that.
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Probably due to our lack of presence in the 18 yard box this season but I think some really do undervalue just how good his delivery is from wide positions, it's up there with the best in this league in my opinion.


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Stick a zero on the price tag & get him flogged
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Quoted from jamesgtfc


People actually think we sign players and delay the announcement?

I used to think like that until Mendoncas Right Peg told me I was deluded for thinking we would do something like that.


Well, this changes things...  


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June 9, 2023, 4:48pm
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Glennon would probably suit higher up , he's slow but technically very good .

How much could we command for him ?
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Glennon would probably suit higher up , he's slow but technically very good .

How much could we command for him ?


Really good age and has good pedigree, probably six figures
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June 9, 2023, 4:57pm
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Glennon would probably suit higher up , he's slow but technically very good .

How much could we command for him ?


100/150K, with add on's?  Depends if we have an extension option and how much they want him though...


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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
I like Glennon, think he's good.
But i can't imagine him playing league 1 football, never mind championship.


I was surprised by this but the Preston link makes sense (we got him from Burnley and he's a Liverpool lad). I struggle to see him playing 1st division football so maybe we get to bank the cash and have him back on loan for a season ala McAtee.


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Our last left back to make the Championship was loanee Conor Townsend who, in my opinion, was head and shoulders above Glennon. However as much as I like Glennon if we get a decent fee for him it could end up a bit of good business.
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I can 100% say that Ryan Bennett will not be signing for GTFC...
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I can 100% say that Ryan Bennett will not be signing for GTFC...


Based on what? Signing for someone else?
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Quoted from aussiej
I can 100% say that Ryan Bennett will not be signing for GTFC...


Already beat you to that one.
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Glennon out, Harry Boyes in
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Quoted from ska face
Glennon out, Harry Boyes in


I'd be happy with that. Was brilliant at Solihull that year we went up and by all accounts not found his feet whilst on loan at Forest Green. I'm really excited to see us in pre-season now and even managed to convince the other half to let me go to Spain for 4 days before we move to Australia to see the Mariners in European action  
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June 9, 2023, 6:48pm
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Quoted from aussiej
I can 100% say that Ryan Bennett will not be signing for GTFC...


It’s hotting up now, Surrey’s reputation is at stake!
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June 10, 2023, 8:04am
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I'd be happy with that. Was brilliant at Solihull that year we went up and by all accounts not found his feet whilst on loan at Forest Green. I'm really excited to see us in pre-season now and even managed to convince the other half to let me go to Spain for 4 days before we move to Australia to see the Mariners in European action  


Will you still get a season ticket ?
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June 10, 2023, 1:10pm
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I can 100% say that Ryan Bennett will not be signing for GTFC...


That’s Gainsborough out of the running. Thanks for that Aussie.


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June 10, 2023, 2:17pm

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That’s Gainsborough out of the running. Thanks for that Aussie.
   And Grantham ?






If the football is bad you can always watch the gulls.
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Sounds like Hurst is on a run with new signings. It'd be nice to have the majority of signings made by the start of pre-season. Several may be announced on the day that contracts run out. If they can find a few others who have release clauses in their contracts then they can be got over the line sooner rather than later, like Mullarkey was.
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Looks like Jesse Debrah is on his way to either Ross County or Carlisle United
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June 11, 2023, 4:45pm

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With these signings it's given us something else to talk about. It's been two and a half days since a post on the Scunthorpe thread. That must be some kind of record.
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June 11, 2023, 6:40pm

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With these signings it's given us something else to talk about. It's been two and a half days since a post on the Scunthorpe thread. That must be some kind of record.


Everybody is just stunned by the last post on there… a Town fan who attends Scunthorpe home games. Bizarre!
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Are those ITK types expecting any hot transfer action today?


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Can’t see anything being announced before the end of the week. The GTFC media guy is away on holiday, and whilst there may be someone else in the office capable of operating a Twitter account, I reckon bits will probably get held back if anything does happen.
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June 12, 2023, 12:32pm
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Quoted from ska face
Can’t see anything being announced before the end of the week. The GTFC media guy is away on holiday, and whilst there may be someone else in the office capable of operating a Twitter account, I reckon bits will probably get held back if anything does happen.


No media guy for a week triggers the ‘Luke Spokes ruling’ which clearly states the following;

‘Should a player sign whilst the media guy is on holiday, there should be absolutely no mention of the signing anywhere, regardless of whether the first team manager can use a computer or not’

Rules are rules
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June 12, 2023, 12:40pm
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I would hope there’s enough people in the club that could do announcements without it depending when one person is on holiday.


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June 12, 2023, 12:43pm
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Quoted from pontoonlew


No media guy for a week triggers the ‘Luke Spokes ruling’ which clearly states the following;

‘Should a player sign whilst the media guy is on holiday, there should be absolutely no mention of the signing anywhere, regardless of whether the first team manager can use a computer or not’

Rules are rules


System 1 or system 2 type of thinking?


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Not a rumour as such (but if we do go in for one of these I'll claim it ) more of an interesting insight from Wales Online about Cardiff's plan for their young stars:

Youngsters to head out
We have heard from under-21s manager Darren Purse over the last week and he has a clear plan for many of the youngsters in the academy.

He wants a number of them to head out on loan over the coming months, with Cameron Antwi, James Crole, Chanka Zimba, Vontae Campbell, Jai Semenyo, Ollie Tanner, Tom Davies and Kieron Evans all likely to try and find more senior football over the course of the next season.

The club's plan is to send players out to the Cymru Premier for their first loans, as they did with Davies, Matt Turner, Caleb Hughes and Jack Leahy, in order to make them more attractive to National League or lower Football League clubs for their second loans.
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June 12, 2023, 5:56pm

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Zimba has already had 2 spells with league 2 sides,

Vontae Campbell is an interesting one as he’s played for England from u16-u19


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June 12, 2023, 6:20pm

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If Harry does a flit if offers come in for him, two names who are available as free agents are Callum Ainley from Crewe or Alex Pattison from Harrogate.

An up and coming that should be looked at is Jonas Makuna, released by Walsall, who is only 18 but looks a bit of a handful.

Another CD who is available is Ro-Shaun Williams from Donny. England Youth International, and one of the fastest footballers currently playing
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June 13, 2023, 10:35am
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Slightly off topic (Yeah, I know crazy eh) but looks like Emmanuel is joining Peterborough today. Certainly showed flashes of been above L2 this season if not doing so consistently. Good luck to the lad on his recovery back to full time football.


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June 13, 2023, 10:55am
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Quoted from Mikey_345
Slightly off topic (Yeah, I know crazy eh) but looks like Emmanuel is joining Peterborough today. Certainly showed flashes of been above L2 this season if not doing so consistently. Good luck to the lad on his recovery back to full time football.


Bit of a strange one Emmanuel, fantastic pedigree, looked quality at times but equally anonymous and even poor on other occasions. I guess the fitness thing was a huge issue, hopefully he can have a good pre season with them and get back on track.


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Bit of a strange one Emmanuel, fantastic pedigree, looked quality at times but equally anonymous and even poor on other occasions. I guess the fitness thing was a huge issue, hopefully he can have a good pre season with them and get back on track.


I think we forget he hadn't played competitive football in over a year, then went into a crazy run of games.


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Slightly off topic (Yeah, I know crazy eh) but looks like Emmanuel is joining Peterborough today. Certainly showed flashes of been above L2 this season if not doing so consistently. Good luck to the lad on his recovery back to full time football.


Fits their business model perfectly as someone to take a punt on and sell on for a fee. Still at a saleable age, less risky than he was in January and an opportunity to give him a full pre-season for the first time in a long time.
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Lincoln have had an offer accepted for Reeco Hackett.
Does this make the Vernam deal more likely?
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Lincoln have had an offer accepted for Reeco Hackett.
Does this make the Vernam deal more likely?


Saw that, if I remember rightly that’s who they couldn’t get over the line in January meaning they held on to CV.

Personally think it has very little affect this time around, his time at Lincoln probably over either way.


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I know I make take pelters for this but I would take Michee Efete everyday of the week as my right back  over Emmanuel .
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Matt Dannatt just tweeted about King Charles coming home?
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Matt Dannatt just tweeted about King Charles coming home?


Just be a response to the new Lincoln signing, don’t think he’s sourced up like the top tier on here.
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I know I make take pelters for this but I would take Michee Efete everyday of the week as my right back  over Emmanuel .


The problem with both of our RB’s last season was, for me, inconsistency. Both of them are excellent players when showing a high standard of performance, but I thought Emmanuel particularly had more quiet/disappointing games last season than he had decisive or influential, quality performances. Fitness clearly an understandable aspect of that. Miche has great potential to improve and raise his consistency, but I’d like to see another quality player in that position, like you’d expect. I’m not too bothered that Emmanuel won’t be returning, but competition in that vital position is key to us improving for me, especially with us tending not to favour ‘flat black 4’ systems and an onus on wing backs making key attacking and defensive contributions.


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It may have been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, but I noticed that the  Sutton team is being depleted at a fairly steady rate. Looks like they are losing a large core of their playing squad from last season


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Quoted from ska face


Just be a response to the new Lincoln signing, don’t think he’s sourced up like the top tier on here.

His source is The Fishy. Hi Matt!
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I know I make take pelters for this but I would take Michee Efete everyday of the week as my right back  over Emmanuel .


Everybody sees things differently because I most certainly would not
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
It may have been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, but I noticed that the  Sutton team is being depleted at a fairly steady rate. Looks like they are losing a large core of their playing squad from last season


Deconstructed beyond repair I would suggest . A shame really ,a good manager who has built up a decent team ; can't see them having the resources to replace adequately sadly and it will be a long hard season for them alongside - (definately ) Morecambe & Crawley
Probably- Colchester, FGR , Tranmere and Crewe

Glad we are no longer (barring a disaster) in the conversation of bargain basement signings and just hoping to survive .
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Looks like Vernam is currently on holiday, so i wouldn't expect anything imminently, if he is signing that is.


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Just be a response to the new Lincoln signing, don’t think he’s sourced up like the top tier on here.


He seems quite hopeful. Mind you this n ryan bennett signing is like one of those never ending soap operas!
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The problem with both of our RB’s last season was, for me, inconsistency. Both of them are excellent players when showing a high standard of performance, but I thought Emmanuel particularly had more quiet/disappointing games last season than he had decisive or influential, quality performances. Fitness clearly an understandable aspect of that. Miche has great potential to improve and raise his consistency, but I’d like to see another quality player in that position, like you’d expect. I’m not too bothered that Emmanuel won’t be returning, but competition in that vital position is key to us improving for me, especially with us tending not to favour ‘flat black 4’ systems and an onus on wing backs making key attacking and defensive contributions.


Mularky can play at RB.

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I might be in the minority but I'm not too fussed on Vernam .

Is he substantially better than Khan,Sousa and Maguire Drew ?

I am not so sure .
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He seems quite hopeful. Mind you this n ryan bennett signing is like one of those never ending soap operas!


Flying doctors or elderado?


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Everybody sees things differently because I most certainly would not


Yep, Emmanuel is a much better player. Having said that I can see why people haven't taken to Emmanuel as much as might have been expected. He has quite an ungainly Bambi on ice style to him. Often looks like he's not in control of a situation but he generally is. I also don't think he excels at anything in particular, however he's very solid at everything a full back/wing back needs. He's quick, strong, good at the back, can skin a man and deliver the ball. For that alone, he'll be playing higher than L2 next season.

I think the most telling areas that Efete needs to improve in are apparent when he's stacked up against Emmanuel. When Emmanuel is down the opposition's left hand side he tries to drive into the box towards the byline and stick the ball on the back post. We know Efete can do this too but all too often he dithers and plays the ball back or puts a ball in too late. Emmanuel deals with danger at the back decisively too, whereas Efete can sometimes look like a rabbit in headlights.

Efete is in the same box as Crocombe (should he sign his deal) for me. He's currently an okay option, but he needs someone to push him for his spot because he's cost us points. There's definitely a good player there with Efete but he hasn't ironed out the problems we saw in the promotion season. To end on a positive though, I thought his performances at centre back last season were mostly good and that his pace is a valuable asset in a three, especially when Waterfall is one of those.
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I might be in the minority but I'm not too fussed on Vernam .

Is he substantially better than Khan,Sousa and Maguire Drew ?

I am not so sure .


I agree - did well for about 5 games for us but rest of time pretty average
We can do better
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I might be in the minority but I'm not too fussed on Vernam .

Is he substantially better than Khan,Sousa and Maguire Drew ?

I am not so sure .


Have they all been playing a division higher than us for the past 3 years?

That run of form after his loan spell at Chorley was excellent. If we hadn't let him go, we might have managed to stay up the following season.

I'd be pleased to see him back as he has plenty to offer at this level.
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I think Efete is pretty solid defensively. The problems arise when he pushes forward into good positions and then dithers. A lack of confidence, I think, though he's not a great crosser of the ball most of the time.

I can't really see him playing as a wing-back due to his lack of end product when pushing forward, which might be an issue, as Mullarkey sounds as though he's almost designed to play in a back three.
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Emmanual was good from what i saw of him (ok it was only highlights) but after a month or 2 he didn't look like he could be arsed if you ask me, and like others, i think Michee is a better player.  I certainly expected better from someone who would command a higher salary, ok his fitness might not be on the same level as others but i think there are better out there than Emmanual.




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Yep, Emmanuel is a much better player. Having said that I can see why people haven't taken to Emmanuel as much as might have been expected. He has quite an ungainly Bambi on ice style to him. Often looks like he's not in control of a situation but he generally is. I also don't think he excels at anything in particular, however he's very solid at everything a full back/wing back needs. He's quick, strong, good at the back, can skin a man and deliver the ball. For that alone, he'll be playing higher than L2 next season.

I think the most telling areas that Efete needs to improve in are apparent when he's stacked up against Emmanuel. When Emmanuel is down the opposition's left hand side he tries to drive into the box towards the byline and stick the ball on the back post. We know Efete can do this too but all too often he dithers and plays the ball back or puts a ball in too late. Emmanuel deals with danger at the back decisively too, whereas Efete can sometimes look like a rabbit in headlights.

Efete is in the same box as Crocombe (should he sign his deal) for me. He's currently an okay option, but he needs someone to push him for his spot because he's cost us points. There's definitely a good player there with Efete but he hasn't ironed out the problems we saw in the promotion season. To end on a positive though, I thought his performances at centre back last season were mostly good and that his pace is a valuable asset in a three , especially when Waterfall is one of those.


I think you're mashing up Emmanuel's performances from right back and right midfield. At right back he never got forward, never had the energy and never had the pace, got skinned quite a few times, and as with all full backs, he also checked and passed the ball back if there was nothing on in the box, which there wasn't for us a lot last season. All I saw was that he was very strong in shielding the ball in static tight situations and in all of his appearances put three good crosses over, two at Northampton and one at Southampton. Some got caught up in the Championship player hype, some didn't. He was ok at League Two level last season. Maybe a pre-season will help him, maybe not. I can only see him as a squad player at the upper end of League One. If people got fully behind Efete, we'll have some player on our hands as he's clearly a confidence player. His stats stand up even though he had a really poor spell in autumn, but showed great character to put it behind him. All of our defenders made mistakes, mostly at our far post left back position, but I've not seen a player of ours targeted for as much abuse as Efete has copped for a long time. I found it mind boggling because I really rate him, we haven't had a full back with his engine or strength for years. He could be a bit better and more confident on the ball at times, but if he was, with his physical attibutes, he definitely wouldn't be playing for us in League Two. Made one or two League Two teams of the season, it's time to get behind the lad and push him on, because Hurst is gonna pick him as he rates his overall contribution to the team like I do. Let's all have a season off his back and see how it goes..
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Have they all been playing a division higher than us for the past 3 years?

That run of form after his loan spell at Chorley was excellent. If we hadn't let him go, we might have managed to stay up the following season.

I'd be pleased to see him back as he has plenty to offer at this level.


He has not played though has he  , and a Lincoln lads thoughts when i said we wanted him were 'why would you sign him ? he just runs into people and gives the ball away '

Bradford fans were mixed ,some wanted him to stay some were not bothered .

I am not saying he's a bad league 2 player but I don't think he's the messiah to pin our hopes on to take us up out of it .
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Doubt we will se much activity while people are still under contract even if they have near enough signed for us as they are still employed by the other club.
I can see a couple of lean weeks ahead until that time. sure the fishy will go back into melt down due to the lack but im fairly certain certain targets will be signed by gentleman's agreement.

Bennet not coming.

Vernam will wait it out for better offers but may well end up here.

Im 3 for 3 this window. pretty pleased so far
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For interest why has Bennett gone from 100% coming back, already signed, and now 100% not coming? Better offer, failed to reach financial agreement for wages?

All seems a bit odd to me and given he now lives in the town a return would appear to make sense for both parties?

If he doesn’t come he doesn’t come but thought it would be a great way for him to end his career.
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He has not played though has he  , and a Lincoln lads thoughts when i said we wanted him were 'why would you sign him ? he just runs into people and gives the ball away '

Bradford fans were mixed ,some wanted him to stay some were not bothered .

I am not saying he's a bad league 2 player but I don't think he's the messiah to pin our hopes on to take us up out of it .


29 appearances for Lincoln last season, though many were off the bench.

I don't think anybody is pinning hopes on him to take us up? We know that Hurst focusses on the team, so he would just be one cog in the machine.

Hopefully, a slightly better cog than some of the others we've seen in recent years.
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I might be in the minority but I'm not too fussed on Vernam .

Is he substantially better than Khan,Sousa and Maguire Drew ?

I am not so sure .


Kahn maybe not but the other two he’s miles ahead of.


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I think you're mashing up Emmanuel's performances from right back and right midfield. At right back he never got forward, never had the energy and never had the pace, got skinned quite a few times, and as with all full backs, he also checked and passed the ball back if there was nothing on in the box, which there wasn't for us a lot last season. All I saw was that he was very strong in shielding the ball in static tight situations and in all of his appearances put three good crosses over, two at Northampton and one at Southampton. Some got caught up in the Championship player hype, some didn't. He was ok at League Two level last season. Maybe a pre-season will help him, maybe not. I can only see him as a squad player at the upper end of League One. If people got fully behind Efete, we'll have some player on our hands as he's clearly a confidence player. His stats stand up even though he had a really poor spell in autumn, but showed great character to put it behind him. All of our defenders made mistakes, mostly at our far post left back position, but I've not seen a player of ours targeted for as much abuse as Efete has copped for a long time. I found it mind boggling because I really rate him, we haven't had a full back with his engine or strength for years. He could be a bit better and more confident on the ball at times, but if he was, with his physical attibutes, he definitely wouldn't be playing for us in League Two. Made one or two League Two teams of the season, it's time to get behind the lad and push him on, because Hurst is gonna pick him as he rates his overall contribution to the team like I do. Let's all have a season off his back and see how it goes..

Emmanuel was at RB when he won us the match at Northampton, wasn't he? Thought he got forward well against Orient, Crewe and Crawley too off the top of my head. Pretty sure he was at RB for both of those.

Not sure I agree on the abuse comment either. O'Neill, Morris, Pepple, McAtee...all of them have had as much if not more criticism than Efete over the last season.
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Who do we fancy as our new number 1, then? A few thoughts.

Christy Pym - under contract but totally out of favour at Posh; possibly Mansfield-bound

Jamal Blackman - 6ft 6”, surprisingly released by Exeter

Josh Vickers - also big at 6ft 4”, released by Rotherham, spent a fair bit of time at Lincoln previously

Luke McGee - released by Forest Green after three seasons there

Alex Cairns - Fleetwood stalwart, was on loan at Salford for a bit prior to his release

Anyone else?


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Who do we fancy as our new number 1, then? A few thoughts.

Christy Pym - under contract but totally out of favour at Posh; possibly Mansfield-bound

Jamal Blackman - 6ft 6”, surprisingly released by Exeter

Josh Vickers - also big at 6ft 4”, released by Rotherham, spent a fair bit of time at Lincoln previously

Luke McGee - released by Forest Green after three seasons there

Alex Cairns - Fleetwood stalwart, was on loan at Salford for a bit prior to his release

Anyone else?


Lazy guessing but I'm going for either

Harvey Cartwright, Ben Kilip or Jake Eastwood
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Who do we fancy as our new number 1, then? A few thoughts.

Christy Pym - under contract but totally out of favour at Posh; possibly Mansfield-bound

Jamal Blackman - 6ft 6”, surprisingly released by Exeter

Josh Vickers - also big at 6ft 4”, released by Rotherham, spent a fair bit of time at Lincoln previously

Luke McGee - released by Forest Green after three seasons there

Alex Cairns - Fleetwood stalwart, was on loan at Salford for a bit prior to his release

Anyone else?


Harvey Cartwright
Sam Johnson
Nathan Bishop


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I was told very early in the window to expect Harvey to sign here, and I believe we are in for him.
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I suppose as others have just said, the names mentioned will be Cartwright, Kilip and Eastwood. Mainly as they are names we know  


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He has not played though has he , and a Lincoln lads thoughts when i said we wanted him were 'why would you sign him ? he just runs into people and gives the ball away '

Bradford fans were mixed ,some wanted him to stay some were not bothered .

I am not saying he's a bad league 2 player but I don't think he's the messiah to pin our hopes on to take us up out of it .


Yes he has, 29 appearances last season.  Also you are going by what fans are saying, they are not professional scouts, managers, assistant managers, coaches etc.  who are far more knowledgeable re whether he is a good player or not.  

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From what I read/heard, he was really good for Bradford and one of their top performers, hence once again earning himself a move to league one (whilst we were in the conference).

If anyone thinks Maguire-Drew (recently relegated to national league north with Yeovil) is better than Vernam, they need their head checking.


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From what I read/heard, he was really good for Bradford and one of their top performers, hence once again earning himself a move to league one (whilst we were in the conference).

If anyone thinks Maguire-Drew (recently relegated to national league north with Yeovil) is better than Vernam, they need their head checking.


Bradford fans were sorry to see him go, Hughes wanted him to stay and offered him a new deal.
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Yep, that's how i recall it. I understand some fans getting frustrated with people always talking about bringing back former players, but at the end of the day if they're an improvement on what we already have, then i'm all for it.

He's a great wide forward that can take players on and score goals, which would suit us to a tee. He scored 10 goals in 34 starts for Bradford when last in lg2!


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Who do we fancy as our new number 1, then? A few thoughts.

Christy Pym - under contract but totally out of favour at Posh; possibly Mansfield-bound

Jamal Blackman - 6ft 6”, surprisingly released by Exeter

Josh Vickers - also big at 6ft 4”, released by Rotherham, spent a fair bit of time at Lincoln previously

Luke McGee - released by Forest Green after three seasons there

Alex Cairns - Fleetwood stalwart, was on loan at Salford for a bit prior to his release

Anyone else?


Seem to recall Chimp supporting mates rating Vickers pretty highly so be happy if he’s our man.
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Really well though of at Bradford, hence they wanted to keep him for a squad that they intended to challenge with.

He brings a different quality we've been missing and simply cannot be compared as being on the same level as JMD and Sousa - he will run with the ball and go past someone and also has that added level of composure/end product. Especially dangerous if we can turn the ball over high and break which we looked to be trying to do with the three midfielders last season. At times last season though we would stop in wide areas and pass back and across, then we'd have nobody to hit with the only option left having done that, crossing a ball in from deep.

From what I read he has really improved defensively as well. Willing to put a shift in going the other way aswell, which sounds like a PH player.

Think he's currently on holiday and recovering from an op to repair a meniscus tear (4/8week thing). With our interest and his previously i cannot see why both sides wouldn't want to get this done, despite interest elsewhere in L2.


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Quoted from Poojah
Who do we fancy as our new number 1, then? A few thoughts.

Christy Pym - under contract but totally out of favour at Posh; possibly Mansfield-bound

Jamal Blackman - 6ft 6”, surprisingly released by Exeter

Josh Vickers - also big at 6ft 4”, released by Rotherham, spent a fair bit of time at Lincoln previously

Luke McGee - released by Forest Green after three seasons there

Alex Cairns - Fleetwood stalwart, was on loan at Salford for a bit prior to his release

Anyone else?


I mentioned Blackman as I think he would be a quality signing. McGee and vickers also.

Someone that could be a wildcard (total guess!) could be Brad Collins, just released from Barnsley


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The seaon we went up Husrt was interested in the Wealdstone keeper who was on loan from Arsenal . Wonder if he is still in his thoughts . Can't remember his name though .
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The seaon we went up Husrt was interested in the Wealdstone keeper who was on loan from Arsenal . Wonder if he is still in his thoughts . Can't remember his name though .


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I suppose as others have just said, the names mentioned will be Cartwright, Kilip and Eastwood. Mainly as they are names we know  


Hurst has signed Eastwood twice (here and Scunny) and tried to sign him again at the start of the 21/22 season. I can't see him being required at Sheffield United
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Hurst has signed Eastwood twice (here and Scunny) and tried to sign him again at the start of the 21/22 season. I can't see him being required at Sheffield United


Oh yeah, don't doubt there maybe interest in Eastwood given the history. Wouldn't be surprised to see him here, only been getting patchy loan moves the last few years. Now 26 and probably looking for first team football regularly, close to home aswell. Given Sheffield United have kept hold of him from youth level until now would suggest they think see something in him.


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I wonder if the uncertainty over Bennett is down to the fact that nobody really knows!!
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Joseph Olowu


No. That wasn't the one .  He said he would come if we went up but obviously Max was a big influence so it was a no go
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I wonder if the uncertainty over Bennett is down to the fact that nobody really knows!!
Toss enough coins and you’ll be right about half the time


Could it be that he is contracted to Cambridge till the end of the month?

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No. That wasn't the one .  He said he would come if we went up but obviously Max was a big influence so it was a no go


Joseph Olowu has joined Wealdstone when they was in NLS (20-21).  The other keeper Wealdstone had on loan was Isted from Luton.  You sure your not on about the keeper that went to Crewe -  Arthur Okonkwo?




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The seaon we went up Husrt was interested in the Wealdstone keeper who was on loan from Arsenal . Wonder if he is still in his thoughts . Can't remember his name though .


George Wickens from Fulham? Made a silly save against us at their place then was MoM at BP.


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Really nice porche parked on clee road this morning driver on the phone private reg some thing something FOX just grasping straws I know but I don’t hear rumours not in the know you know
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I will stick my neck out and say both Charles and Ryan are done deals.

Plus Max will sign when he returns from international duty.

Unless some one makes him a better offer.

Oops !!    Somebody made him a better offer .

I missed that post.


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Really nice porche parked on clee road this morning driver on the phone private reg some thing something FOX just grasping straws I know but I don’t hear rumours not in the know you know


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Joseph Olowu has joined Wealdstone when they was in NLS (20-21).  The other keeper Wealdstone had on loan was Isted from Luton.  You sure your not on about the keeper that went to Crewe -  Arthur Okonkwo?


Okonkwo is without a doubt the worst 'keeper I've seen at Blundell Park, that's including Andy Love and Rhys Wilmott.

I bloody hope we're not in for him.
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Okonkwo is without a doubt the worst 'keeper I've seen at Blundell Park, that's including Andy Love and Rhys Wilmott.

I bloody hope we're not in for him.


It’s a pretty hot take given he’s never played against us
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It’s a pretty hot take given he’s never played against us


He played in the 4-0 game in the League Cup

He was pretty bad but no Tommy Forecast
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It’s a pretty hot take given he’s never played against us


Post truth? https://gtfc.co.uk/match/grimsby-crewe-2022-08-09/


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Samantha?
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She would need a lot of support now
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I should’ve extended my research to the JPT game, consider me told!
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Heard Jake Eastwood has signed, 2 year deal
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Heard Jake Eastwood has signed, 2 year deal


Not sure about this one if true. Doesn’t he struggle with injuries? Hasn’t ever really played a full season.


Up The Mariners!
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If we sign Eastwood to be our number one I will be concerned, I didn't think he was all that great last time we had him, he's injury prone and he never endeared himself to Rochdale fans, I know not many did as they went down but still, the general feeling according to their fans was that he's not good
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I’d be shocked if we don’t sign Cartwright on loan this Summer. But this is just my opinion.
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Ok Rumour Fans, the standings in table of trust at the end of last summer’s transfer window looked like this -

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Mendonca1995
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January was an absolute skip fire. Mendonca1995’s source at an unnamed local hotel let him down badly and absolutely torched his reputation. Usually steady Hagrid went big on deadline day only for the Dallas deal to disintegrate, along with his reliability. Pontoonlew & Surrey97 kept their heads down in Jan, wisely, but at least one good source appears to have dried up for pontoonlew this season.

All you really need to know is that if It Bites says there’s one incoming, there aint, and whilst wozofgrimsby is a lovely bloke he’s never called a correct transfer target in the 15 years I’ve known him.

Let the bullshîtting commence!


Apologies to mendonca1995 - just realised it was actually LocalLadGTC with the man in the Oaklands! Mendonca1995’s reputation remains impeccable.


Anyone know what’s going on with Shaq Forde this week, or has that one died on the vine?
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Apologies to mendonca1995 - just realised it was actually LocalLadGTC with the man in the Oaklands! Mendonca1995’s reputation remains impeccable.


Anyone know what’s going on with Shaq Forde this week, or has that one died on the vine?


I wasn’t wrong, we had contact with Dallas and he turned us down.. 😉 not sure what’s happening with Forde, haven’t seen the lad since, did see online that there’s a bit of a shuffle happening at Watford behind the scenes so could be playing a part
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Apologies to mendonca1995 - just realised it was actually LocalLadGTC with the man in the Oaklands! Mendonca1995’s reputation remains impeccable.


Anyone know what’s going on with Shaq Forde this week, or has that one died on the vine?


Surely this puts me back into the automatic positions 😂


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Heard Jake Eastwood has signed, 2 year deal


Mad that he's still at Sheffield United when he's 26, only played a handful of games out on loan too.


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I should’ve extended my research to the JPT game, consider me told!


Not JPT- Carabao (League Cup)


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I don’t remember Eastwood when he was here. Saw he’d been at Scunny too and remembered they’d said he was the worst goalkeeper they’d ever had. Then realised I’d got my Sheff United goalkeepers mixed up and they’d said that about Marcus Dewhurst. Not that their opinion counts for anything about anything. Buffon would’ve struggled behind that clown show.
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Eastwood was brought In during the covid season, but broke his finger after a few games I think


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I don’t remember Eastwood when he was here. Saw he’d been at Scunny too and remembered they’d said he was the worst goalkeeper they’d ever had. Then realised I’d got my Sheff United goalkeepers mixed up and they’d said that about Marcus Dewhurst. Not that their opinion counts for anything about anything. Buffon would’ve struggled behind that clown show.


I've been told that Musselwhite is a terrible GK coach. I've seen enough of Dewhurst to know he is a very good keeper and I would take him here in a heartbeat if Sheff Utd have coached his Scunny form out of him.
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Mad that he's still at Sheffield United when he's 26, only played a handful of games out on loan too.


Tommy Forecast was still on the books of a Premier League club aged 27.


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Tommy Forecast was still on the books of a Premier League club aged 27.


Scott Carson is still picking up medals with Man City at the grand old age of 72


Rose is on fire

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I've been told that Musselwhite is a terrible GK coach. I've seen enough of Dewhurst to know he is a very good keeper and I would take him here in a heartbeat if Sheff Utd have coached his Scunny form out of him.


Not remotely surprised to hear this.
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Not JPT- Carabao (League Cup)


Yep. Comfortable win to tee up the Forest game.

Dreadful all game. I dare say Young is being kind in saying he's no Tommy Forecast... Based on that showing he's worse! I know, that's saying something!

Only seen him in clips on the Saturday highlights show since and every Crewe goal he conceded seemed to be his fault.  Amazed me how he's on Arsenal's books, more amazing that Crewe persisted with him for so long.

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I thought Eastwood was really good when he was here.

But my concern would be he was, by all accounts, poor in a shocking Rochdale team. Had we not seen him before this would look a worrying signing (if it happens). I suppose we know from our own experience the importance of confidence and how good players can get dragged down in excrement-shows (Waterfall for example).

Hurst hasn't really signed many 'keepers for us, especially when discounting the likes of Hedge and Flemming who made appearances in FA Trophy games. But his list of signings isn't shoddy.

McKeown, Henderson, Eastwood and Crocombe.
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From what I read/heard, he was really good for Bradford and one of their top performers, hence once again earning himself a move to league one (whilst we were in the conference).

If anyone thinks Maguire-Drew (recently relegated to national league north with Yeovil) is better than Vernam, they need their head checking.


Maguire Drew is maybe a stretch .

Again like Crocombe

Can we do better than Vernam ?

If not it's a decent signing  for league 2 but I feel we need to be more ambitious than just turning back, to in reality ,without rose tinted glasses on a slightly (at best ) above average league 2 winger who has one good game in 5 .
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Okonkwo is without a doubt the worst 'keeper I've seen at Blundell Park, that's including Andy Love and Rhys Wilmott.

I bloody hope we're not in for him.


Not even the worst goalkeeper at BP this season. Corey Addai from Crawley was atrocious.
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Maguire Drew is maybe a stretch .

Again like Crocombe

Can we do better than Vernam ?

If not it's a decent signing  for league 2 but I feel we need to be more ambitious than just turning back, to in reality ,without rose tinted glasses on a slightly (at best ) above average league 2 winger who has one good game in 5 .


Last time he was at L2 level he averaged a goal contribution every 150 minutes, compared to Otis who averages one every 380 based off last season. I think people are doing the exact opposite of rose tinted glasses and giving him a hard time because of his time here where until the Chorley loan he wasn't really given a chance and then was very much unplayable. He's not stepped up to L1 level admittedly but I think he's anything but an average L2 winger. When you further dive into his stats from L2 he lead the league in successful take ons (something we lack massively) and was one of the best wingers in the league for distance covered. He's 26 so is coming into his prime years and he improves us massively and gives us something we definitely do not have in terms of he's frightening to play against because he can beat you a number of different ways.
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Was he the lad who thought he was Ederson and had John Stones ahead of him, constantly trying to play it out from the back?

If so, good shout. But I recall he made a couple of worldies, which defied belief when he struggled to even bounce the ball both before and after.
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But my concern would be he was, by all accounts, poor in a shocking Rochdale team. Had we not seen him before this would look a worrying signing (if it happens). I suppose we know from our own experience the importance of confidence and how good players can get dragged down in excrement-shows (Waterfall for example).


And this is where I reckon goalkeepers sometimes get castigated. You look at the number of goals conceded and automatically the keeper is looked at. Sh1te defenders never come into the equation. That’s why I think it’s possibly the hardest position to fill in a team.


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Yep. Comfortable win to tee up the Forest game.

Dreadful all game. I dare say Young is being kind in saying he's no Tommy Forecast... Based on that showing he's worse! I know, that's saying something!

Only seen him in clips on the Saturday highlights show since and every Crewe goal he conceded seemed to be his fault.  Amazed me how he's on Arsenal's books, more amazing that Crewe persisted with him for so long.


My Crewe fan mate said he started dodgily but got better and better as the season went on and was quality at the end of his time there. He went to Sturm Graz and played regularly in the Austrian Prem and won the cup later in the season.
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Bennett won't be happening.
Deal was close, but have since broken down.
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Bennett won't be happening.
Deal was close, but have since broken down.


Surrey97???
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Maguire Drew is maybe a stretch .

Again like Crocombe

Can we do better than Vernam ?

If not it's a decent signing  for league 2 but I feel we need to be more ambitious than just turning back, to in reality ,without rose tinted glasses on a slightly (at best ) above average league 2 winger who has one good game in 5 .


He looked absolutely brilliant once Holloway came in, gave him a run of games out wide in the same position, and had Glennon behind him (who we have back again)

He scored 10 goals in 34 starts for Bradford in league two. To be honest, i'd be bloody happy if our main striker managed that  goalscoring rate, never-mind a wide player.

Maintain it'd be a really good bit of business for us.



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Bennett won't be happening.
Deal was close, but have since broken down.


The league table will make for interesting reading if Bennett and/or Vernam fail to happen...
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He looked absolutely brilliant once Holloway came in, gave him a run of games out wide in the same position, and had Glennon behind him (who we have back again)

He scored 10 goals in 34 starts for Bradford in league two. To be honest, i'd be bloody happy if our main striker managed that  goalscoring rate, never-mind a wide player.

Maintain it'd be a really good bit of business for us.



I agree entirely

I think having Vernam on the left with Glennon behind, and Rose as the ST would be a very competitive side.

Not sure if the intention is 3 at the back or 2 up top, this probably will be clarified should (if) Bennett signs.

Also not sure where Khan would fit in, I’d like to see him playing as a 10.
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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
Bennett won't be happening.
Deal was close, but have since broken down.


That's not what I've been told, he's currently in talks with us Cambridge and Peterborough 👍


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Blundell Park car park watch..N9 MN0..Range Rover type..drove out about an hour ago. Not from round these parts I tell thee. 99.9% chance it’ll be feck all to do with signing..might not even be a player or agent..but on the 0.1% chance it’s connected Im claiming it in case.


‘I just f*cking threw myself at it’

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Whatever happens with Bennett, and I’d love for him to sign, I hope it’s made clear to him that the offer isn’t always going to be there and we shouldn’t be seen as some dosshole that he can stroll into when he’s on his last legs and just fancies seeing out his last season or two.

He’s still 33 and clearly still well capable - he could ascend to God-like status here in the next few years and could really end on a high. His family need to get in his shell.
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Whatever happens with Bennett, and I’d love for him to sign, I hope it’s made clear to him that the offer isn’t always going to be there and we shouldn’t be seen as some dosshole that he can stroll into when he’s on his last legs and just fancies seeing out his last season or two.

He’s still 33 and clearly still well capable - he could ascend to God-like status here in the next few years and could really end on a high. His family need to get in his shell.


Couldn't agree more. You want to come back because of the ease living here, great we're happy to have you aboard. If not then we aren't a fall back option, excrement or get off the pot.


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Blundell Park car park watch..N9 MN0..Range Rover type..drove out about an hour ago. Not from round these parts I tell thee. 99.9% chance it’ll be feck all to do with signing..might not even be a player or agent..but on the 0.1% chance it’s connected Im claiming it in case.


Well it's obvious - MNO is Menno, N9 for Netherlands, he's a goalkeeper and we need a new keeper :

Menno Heus is a Goalkeeper who has appeared in 7 matches this season in Tweede Divisie, playing a total of 630 minutes. Menno Heus concedes an average of 2 goals for every 90 minutes that the player is on the pitch. Their Clean Sheets ratio is currently at 28%. That means Menno Heus has kept a Clean Sheet in 2 matches out of the 7 that the player has played in. See how they rank against other Tweede Divisie Players.
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Blundell Park car park watch..N9 MN0..Range Rover type..drove out about an hour ago. Not from round these parts I tell thee. 99.9% chance it’ll be feck all to do with signing..might not even be a player or agent..but on the 0.1% chance it’s connected Im claiming it in case.


Not that I have far too much time on my hands or anything, but either (if the last bit is a zero) it's a fake plate or (if a letter O) it belongs to a 7 year old white Volkswagen Golf


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Blundell Park car park watch..N9 MN0..Range Rover type..drove out about an hour ago. Not from round these parts I tell thee. 99.9% chance it’ll be feck all to do with signing..might not even be a player or agent..but on the 0.1% chance it’s connected Im claiming it in case.


N9MNO was on a white VW Golf first registered in December 2015 when that car had an MOT in February.

So we can narrow it down to a player who’s bought a new car in the last 3-4 months.
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Scrap that, N9 is obviously number 9 so he's a Striker, MNO is Monroe - step forward Donnie Monroe from Peterhead!
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Charles AdN9MeNO?
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N9 refers to the Edmonton area of North London. A quick look at its Wiki shows that John Beck is from there. Let the good times roll.


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I mentioned Blackman as I think he would be a quality signing. McGee and vickers also.

Someone that could be a wildcard (total guess!) could be Brad Collins, just released from Barnsley


Vickers would indeed be a quality signing…..
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I believe N9 is No in German. So we could have ourselves a German


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At last, sights of dodgy car number plates, rumours, suggested names, countered rumours, all of which makes the  thread alive again !!
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If you're talking about the goalkeeper blackman we have no chance. He declined Exeters improved contract offer to go elsewhere
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Looks like Eisa, that’s a really good signing IMO
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Eisa?


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Never be positive about town
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Looks a lot like Eisa on the vid, but  look at those fish and chips
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He’s been injured an awful lot during his time with Bradford which is a little worrying




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June 14, 2023, 5:20pm
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If we can keep him fit and injury free it's a very good signing imo 🙌


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Is Eisa good?


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Tough last two seasons but at 27 doesn’t look like he’s had much trouble before then, sometimes happens - bad luck. Sure we’ve done our due diligence


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June 14, 2023, 5:30pm

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Is Eisa good?


Very decent production when he was last properly fit in his spell at Scunthorpe:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/abo-eisa/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/566408

Really depends if he's over his injury problems and we can get him playing regularly. If so he should be good for us.


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Very decent production when he was last properly fit in his spell at Scunthorpe:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/abo-eisa/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/566408

Really depends if he's over his injury problems and we can get him playing regularly. If so he should be good for us.


Excellent. Someone should write a song about him…being good, and stuff.


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If we can get the Scunthorpe version, we've got a great player, remember him tearing us to pieces. Last two seasons have been hampered with injuries, given Hurst has had him at a couple of clubs shows he clearly knows what he brings and rates him very highly.
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A year deal is good all round, a player Hurst has previously had a tune out of, can’t really complain.
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Is Eisa good?


Eisa’s good. Eisa’s good. He’s…

(You know the rest)
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Exciting forward who Hurst had at Shrewsbury and Scunny. That’s worked before.


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4 for 4
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Been injured for 2 seasons. Scannell replacement?
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What I like is the fact he's played for Hurst before at Shrews & Scunny so he knows what Hurst and Doig are all about. I just hope he can put the ball in the net.


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Decent highlights reel. As quick as a whippet; something we've lacked and seemingly something we've addressed with the signings of Wilson and now Eisa.






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Looks like a max Wright size risk too me . Only a year though
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Looks like a max Wright size risk too me . Only a year though


Not really though is it? Sadly for Max he has never had a season uninterrupted by injury in the professional game, Eisa has. It may just be bad luck the last two years and I’m sure we’d have done our due diligence before signing him.
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Has it been confirmed? Can't find it anywhere else
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Quoted from mimma
Has it been confirmed? Can't find it anywhere else


Tweet 1669019399884267520 will appear here...


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Has it been confirmed? Can't find it anywhere else


Tweet 1669019399884267520 will appear here...




My Grimsby Legends
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4 for 4


Yep fair play, Monkey Boy storming the league as it stands
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The new Scannel I think 🤔
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Monkeyboy is the new Surrey, who’s up next?




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Fitness update: Abo's knees are good.
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Looks like a good investment.





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Fitness update: Abo's knees are good.


Family update : His mums called Vera


Lower F5
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Family update : His mums called Vera


Incredibly, his dad is called High Risk Investment.
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Yep fair play, Monkey Boy storming the league as it stands


monkeyboy with a massive lead but rumours of surrey97’s demise are greatly exaggerated -


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Oh you teases Ska and Surrey
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monkeyboy with a massive lead but rumours of surrey97’s demise are greatly exaggerated -




Looking forward to seeing Redacted sign later in the week  
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Steady on Hursty. You'll need a lie down after signing all these forwards.

Another good signing and more pace up front.
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I love to see a team with pace. So far we have signed 2 players who apparently are gifted with pace. I'm very very excited already for this season.
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Whats Eisa signing mean for CV? Was lead to believe us and another club with abit more £££ have had a bid accepted for him, we are/were his preference. Eisa and CV aren’t wing backs so unless Hurst wants to change system not sure how he will accommodate them.
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P.S who is Redacted as I can’t find the post  
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Whats Eisa signing mean for CV? Was lead to believe us and another club with abit more £££ have had a bid accepted for him, we are/were his preference. Eisa and CV aren’t wing backs so unless Hurst wants to change system not sure how he will accommodate them.


I don’t believe it changes the CV situation.

Hurst has repeatedly said he isn’t a fan of 5 at the backs/ wing back - he’s not going to play that way as often hence he’s signing actual wingers now.


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Quoted from Wiley2405
Whats Eisa signing mean for CV? Was lead to believe us and another club with abit more £££ have had a bid accepted for him, we are/were his preference. Eisa and CV aren’t wing backs so unless Hurst wants to change system not sure how he will accommodate them.


I personally think it’s very unlikely that we’ll regularly use wing backs. For wing backs to be effective they need to have a very good engine, be comfortable potentially defending 2 v1 and be very good getting forward. Frankly if a player is good at all these things they’ll be playing higher up the league system  than we do. And if you’ve got a wing backs that aren’t able to do all these things really well then your system is let down. I think we’ll flit between 4–1-4-1 and 4-2-3-1 depending on the opposition.
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I’ve counted them and the REDACTED covers 12-13 letters. Charles Vernam? Ryan Bennett? Yes, I AM that bored.
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Last season during some of the more tepid home matches I bemoaned the lack of wingers and pace in the team. Delighted to see we addressing that situation and hope that will go along way to improve our home performances next season. UTM
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His brother plays for MK so we have a new derby!   The Eisa Derby, so lets hope it is!
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I’ve counted them and the REDACTED covers 12-13 letters. Charles Vernam? Ryan Bennett? Yes, I AM that bored.


Could’ve been max crocombe


Yes, am that bored too!


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monkeyboy with a massive lead but rumours of surrey97’s demise are greatly exaggerated -




Have the balls to post it in the chat I say. Surely if *REDACTED* decides to go somewhere else, we get to know who it was and points are deducted?
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Scott Carson is still picking up medals with Man City at the grand old age of 72


He won’t qualify for medals surely with almost zero minutes played 🤷‍♂️


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He won’t qualify for medals surely with almost zero minutes played 🤷‍♂️


You usually only need to be in the matchday squad to get cup final medals.
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I already posted on the Fishy several days ago that Vernam was a done deal.  In January. Lincoln wouldn't release him until they had his replacement who was coming from Portsmouth [Recco Hackett-Fairchild] but they in turn wanted to confirm a player in from Exeter and that fell through, so no move for Vernam to us.   Allegedly, the source, who will not be identified, is involved at Lincoln at a high level.



Is this the longest protracted transfer ever?

Is it ever going to happen?
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I thought Eastwood was really good when he was here.

But my concern would be he was, by all accounts, poor in a shocking Rochdale team. Had we not seen him before this would look a worrying signing (if it happens). I suppose we know from our own experience the importance of confidence and how good players can get dragged down in excrement-shows (Waterfall for example).

Hurst hasn't really signed many 'keepers for us, especially when discounting the likes of Hedge and Flemming who made appearances in FA Trophy games. But his list of signings isn't shoddy.

McKeown, Henderson, Eastwood and Crocombe.


I was genuinely surprised looking at Eastwood wiki that he was on loan at Town! I’m usually decent with players but most have helped that from my memory completely. I probably went to most of the 7 he played too!

Was he decent for us?


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And this is where I reckon goalkeepers sometimes get castigated. You look at the number of goals conceded and automatically the keeper is looked at. Sh1te defenders never come into the equation. That’s why I think it’s possibly the hardest position to fill in a team.


I played in goal all through primary and secondary. Worst memory, I was sub keeper to admittedly our much better number 1. We’re 3-0 up with 10 to go and I’m pestering the coach to put me on. 4 goals conceded in 6 minutes and I was off again!! 😬🤷‍♂️


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I was genuinely surprised looking at Eastwood wiki that he was on loan at Town! I’m usually decent with players but most have helped that from my memory completely. I probably went to most of the 7 he played too!

Was he decent for us?


It was our relegation season, the covid one so all games were watched online, no fans in stadiums, I thought he was OK without pulling up any trees, I think he broke his finger and that ruled him out for the rest of the season.
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So are we still expecting 'Redacted' this week lads?
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So are we still expecting 'Redacted' this week lads?


Using little more than “It Bites”-esque logic, you’d expect so. The photo opps and social media work for the three signings last week were clearly done on the same day as you’d imagine the relevant staff, especially Hurst, aren’t at the club all that often currently.

Given the Eisa deal came to fruition, there’s little reason to doubt the “redacted” one isn’t also done. I’d anticipate an announcement today or tomorrow.


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Announce Redacted 😆
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Announce Redacted 😆


Can you at least give us some Wheel of Fortune style letters for us to have a stab at?


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Can you at least give us some Wheel of Fortune style letters for us to have a stab at?


It’s someone who’s been mentioned before, but not by me 🙂
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It’s someone who’s been mentioned before, but not by me 🙂


Ooh, let’s try a game of “Guess Who” instead then.

“Has he played for us before?”


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Ooh, let’s try a game of “Guess Who” instead then.

“Has he played for us before?”


Nope
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That answers Poojah's very subtle 'Is it Ryan Bennett or Charles Vernam'?
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It’s someone who’s been mentioned before, but not by me 🙂


Let’s use some data driven analysis of this thread.

The answer will then be obvious

Anyone want to have a try?
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Ooh, let’s try a game of “Guess Who” instead then.



Did he play against us last season?


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has he been released by a league one club after the end of the 22/23 season?
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That answer's Poojah's very subtle 'Is it Ryan Bennett or Charles Vernam'?


Incorrectomundo, Rodley. I was hinting at George Lloyd, from monkeyboy’s post all the way back on page 91.

Quoted Text
p.s george loyd will be back
Danny rose is in the mixer
And eisa (not usre first name)


https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1682500547/highlight-Eisa/id-1653242#num909

The other two have happened, so was the logic. Anyway, we’re narrowing things down; name of between 11 and 13 characters, never played for us before. Should be a piece of píss from that.


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Incorrectomundo, Rodley. I was hinting at George Lloyd, from monkeyboy’s post all the way back on page 91.



https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1682500547/highlight-Eisa/id-1653242#num909

The other two have happened, so was the logic. Anyway, we’re narrowing things down; name of between 11 and 13 characters, never played for us before. Should be a piece of píss from that.


Kylian Mbappe
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Incorrectomundo, Rodley. I was hinting at George Lloyd, from monkeyboy’s post all the way back on page 91.



https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1682500547/highlight-Eisa/id-1653242#num909

The other two have happened, so was the logic. Anyway, we’re narrowing things down; name of between 11 and 13 characters, never played for us before. Should be a piece of píss from that.


Interesting. I had written off Lloyd when we signed Rose but would be delighted to have both. Pace wide and those two as a constant nuisance upfront would be a proper handful.
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So, looking at the last few pages it seems we are 'in for';

Danny Rose
Toby Mullarkey
Alex Pattison
Jessie Debrah
Luke Hannant
Joe Ironside
Shaq Forde
Millenic Alli
Arjan Raiky
Jon Nolan
Josh Umera
and maybe Tyler Walker.
Oh, and Ryan Bennet is coming back.
Did I miss anyone?

Looks like we will have a bigger squad than Chelsea.


Presumably it’s one of the above then?
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Can cross Ironside off the list.
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Luke Hannant (11)? Millenic Alli (12)?
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Alex Pattison


That would be some signing. Hannant or Alli probably more likely options from that list (but would be very happy to be proved wrong).


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Let’s use some data driven analysis of this thread.

The answer will then be obvious

Anyone want to have a try?


Here are Surrey mentions from this thread.

Millenic Alli - stated we are definitely in for him on 2nd June.
Ryan Colclough.
Ryan Bennett - promised us on 6th June that he would sign later that week.
Harvey Cartwright.

Surrey has also commented on other names but only with opinions.

Surrey is saying that *REDACTED* isn't any of the above.
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Did he play against us last season?


Nope
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has he been released by a league one club after the end of the 22/23 season?


Nope
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Nope


Has he come to the end of his current contract with a fellow league two Club?
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Has he come to the end of his current contract with a fellow league two Club?


Yes
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Yes


Luke Hannant looks to be the only one from Ron’s comprehensive list that fits all criteria. 12 character name as well.

Correct?


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Can cross Ironside off the list.


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Dont forget Dallas. Still being told we are heavily linked for him. Some competition though.


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Did he play in Scotland on loan last season?


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Yes


Goalscoring CM?
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Dont forget Dallas. Still being told we are heavily linked for him. Some competition though.


I would suggest PH has moved on from AD!
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Going by the hints posted on this thread this "redacted" player looks to be Kyle Jameson, not writing him off before he plays but he looks very underwhelming from what I've heard, would love to be wrong though! If he signs that is.
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Yes


Penry, the mild mannered janitor?
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I’ve counted them and the REDACTED covers 12-13 letters. Charles Vernam? Ryan Bennett? Yes, I AM that bored.


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Halifax weren’t a L2 club last season.


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Can cross Ironside off the list.


Probably get more games out of him than we did with Scannell
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Could be Hannant, who I’m pretty sure we will sign but maybe not yet. Could the player be from a L1 relegated side?


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Could be Hannant, who I’m pretty sure we will sign but maybe not yet. Could the player be from a L1 relegated side?


Think Surrey said the player was playing for a L2 club season.


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Not sure how reliable this site is but lists all the released league 2 players, couldn't be bothered to copy and paste, maybe later.

https://www.northamptonchron.c.....unced-so-far-4144374




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Think Surrey said the player was playing for a L2 club season.


Said released by one, not necessarily playing for one.
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Quoted from The Dogs Testicles
Alex Pattison


I mentioned him earlier this week
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Said released by one, not necessarily playing for one.


Ah right.

Pattison excites more than the other two, stats-wise.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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Ah right.

Pattison excites more than the other two, stats-wise.


I’d be happy enough with Hannant. Good age and played nearly every league game for a Cambridge side that finished 2nd in this league only two seasons ago.
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Can we take both Pattison and Hannatt!
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I mentioned him earlier this week


Not to be that guy, but I mentioned him first...

quote=1172]Hear we're interested in Free agent Alex pattison.

Surprised if true considering he wanted a league 1 move.

Would be a brilliant bit of business if true.[/quote]



I blocked seeing red ticks years ago so go ahead   If I don't reply to you then i didn't read your replies  
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Quoted from Grimsby2012


Not to be that guy, but I mentioned him first...

quote=1172]Hear we're interested in Free agent Alex pattison.

Surprised if true considering he wanted a league 1 move.

Would be a brilliant bit of business if true.


[/quote]

Thats ok. I wasnt saying i was tbe first to mention him, just agreeing that i had mentioned him a few days earlier
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Not a rumour per se but Jack Hunt has been released from Sheffield Wednesday. A right back that can also play right midfield.
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Gut feeling we have an Incoming today
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Thats ok. I wasnt saying i was tbe first to mention him, just agreeing that i had mentioned him a few days earlier


I was an attendee at the famous Wellington Arms meeting in 1878 and I’m pretty certain I casually tossed Pattison’s name out as a potential future signing.
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Not a rumour per se but Jack Hunt has been released from Sheffield Wednesday. A right back that can also play right midfield.


Any relation?


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I was an attendee at the famous Wellington Arms meeting in 1878 and I’m pretty certain I casually tossed Pattison’s name out as a potential future signing.


I'M SPARTACUS!
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Gut feeling we have an Incoming today


That’s that then, nobody in today, stand down gents.
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Quoted from lukeo
Gut feeling we have an Incoming today


As per your messages on the non-football section, i would be careful with your gut feeling, and have a toilet close, just in case
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Any relation?


Well, he’ll have a mum and dad. And 2 sets of grandparents. No idea if they’re all still alive. Beyond that you’d have to ask him yourself.
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Are they brothers ?
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2 responses that made me smile 😄 cheers lads
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Someone that was previously mentioned on the thread, Tom Naylor looks set to sign for Chesterfield
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Quoted from LocalLadGTFC
Someone that was previously mentioned on the thread, Tom Naylor looks set to sign for Chesterfield


If that happens that’s an insane signing at that level.


All Town aren’t we

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I was an attendee at the famous Wellington Arms meeting in 1878 and I’m pretty certain I casually tossed Pattison’s name out as a potential future signing.


Wow thats forward thinking. Good job
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LB Max Clark from Ull gone to Gills
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Mattie Pollock really heavily hinting he might be heading back to Aberdeen on a permanent basis.

Tweet 1669350815272943617 will appear here...



Hope it happens & we get a decent wedge.
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He's having Pollock tattooed in his wedge ? :-
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Bennett deal done (gentlemans agreemant)

Unless he get's his mind changed in between now and contract expiry.

Pretty sure this is the case, and Surrey goes up the leaderboard , unless Pboro, Notts County  , Cambridge or Mansfield offer him a 3 year contract and daft money in between now and then .

Good sauce not HP or Heinz .
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Ryan Bennett is not signing for GTFC.  You can put that one to bed now and look elsewhere...
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Quoted from ska face
Mattie Pollock really heavily hinting he might be heading back to Aberdeen on a permanent basis.

Tweet 1669350815272943617 will appear here...



Hope it happens & we get a decent wedge.


This was about Leighton Clarkson’s move to Aberdeen.


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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Ah bøllocks, stand down gents, no sell-on cash in today.
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Showdown between Mappers and aussiej.

Only one way to decide the winner... FIGHT!
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Quoted from ska face
Mattie Pollock really heavily hinting he might be heading back to Aberdeen on a permanent basis.

Tweet 1669350815272943617 will appear here...



Hope it happens & we get a decent wedge.


Aberdeen, sane level as us in reality?


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90% sure he comes back

If not Mcanthany or one of the others offer him something too good to turn down .

Next few weeks will tell
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Quoted from Mappers
90% sure he comes back

If not Mcanthany or one of the others offer him something too good to turn down .

Next few weeks will tell


almost as if it's in his interest to have a rumour of definitely signing for Grimsby
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Unless the Peterborough owner reads the fishy or darker corners of gtfc Twitter, I don’t think this discussion is going to get him panicking much.
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Quoted from ska face
Unless the Peterborough owner reads the fishy or darker corners of gtfc Twitter, I don’t think this discussion is going to get him panicking much.


A lot of faith in the power and reach of your own competition there mate.


All Town aren’t we

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Somebody is blagging or they don’t really have a source/have a sh1t source as far as Bennet goes.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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I think that’s been the case for a year or more personally. 2+2=5. A lot of guesswork, conjecture mixed with a couple of genuine folk.


‘I just f*cking threw myself at it’

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I don't hear much but I have heard a genuine rumour.

I can confirm ladies and gentleman that we will sign a goalkeeper between now and the start of the season, I can't reveal my source nor can I reveal the goalkeepers name but I can confirm we will sign a goalkeeper!
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Quoted from chaos33
Somebody is blagging or they don’t really have a source/have a sh1t source as far as Bennet goes.


Surrey promised us Bennett last week.
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Sod Bennett.... It's the keeper we need to spend the money on
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Let's push the boat out a little bit and bring this guy in....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Blackman

Would be a statement signing at this level
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Quoted from Stew0_0
Let's push the boat out a little bit and bring this guy in....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Blackman

Would be a statement signing at this level


I’m sure Hurst would love to… but it isn’t always as easy as that!

How far do we ‘push the boat’? What other offers does he have? How far have the other offers ‘pushed the boat’?

Boat pushing is a complicated business!
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Boat pushing vs Tyre Kicking!
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“Burnt bridges with Bennett already I believe, likely to be heading to Rotherham” - mooseyclub
“I’m told Bennett isn’t really interested in town” - monkeyboy
“I can 100% say that Ryan Bennett will not be signing for GTFC” - aussiej
“ Ryan Bennett is not signing for GTFC.  You can put that one to bed now and look elsewhere...” aussiej
“ Bennett won't be happening. Deal was close, but have since broken down” - Jarmo.Is.God



“I’m 80% on Bennett resigning this season” - Jarmo.Is.God
“Just been told Ryan Bennett deal is very close” - mendonca1995
“This Bennett thing is gathering pace and appears to have legs” - pontoonlew
“Just been told it’s a done deal, to be announced officially later this week” - Surrey97
“I’m still sure he’s signed, but the photo isn’t the ‘got him’ moment” - pontoonlew
“news from a very good source saying 4 signings today, Danny Rose, Ryan Bennett, Donovan Wilson and Mullerkay” - newarkmariner
“Have it on good authority that R.Bennett, Mullarkey & Rose are all done” - You stripes UTM
“I heard from a reliable source, not twitter or facebook, Ryan Bennett has/is signed for us” - DB
“Bennett deal done (gentlemans agreemant) Unless he get's his mind changed. Good sauce” - Mappers


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I have it on good authority that Bennet deal is done,just that club has taken strategic decision not to announce it yet.


Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
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Let me weigh in on this, I have it on good authority that I have absolutely no idea what I am talking about.
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Quoted from friskneymariner
I have it on good authority that Bennet deal is done,just that club has taken strategic decision not to announce it yet.


This could be a possibility - Announce at the end of Early Bird to Boost ST sales or even the new Shirt release. I think our new owners definitely think ‘outside the box’ to generate income and interest.

I’m probably just hoping that he signs - would be immense!!

UTM
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What percentage is the deal on the Bentley scale..
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I can conclusively state, from sources unnamed, within the next 2 months, that Ryan Bennett

MIGHT.......or MIGHT NOT sign for us.

Can't say fairer than that. I'll give it a 50/50 chance of it happening.
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I have also discovered the bennet deal is all but complete, the club have however, strategically chosen not to tell Ryan about it yet.


I was there, the day Bradley Wood scored a 35 yarder!

From the black and white striped shirts
To the fish in the sea
You'll hear us singing
Coz we are Grimsby.

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Coz we are the Grimsby
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One of the best quotes from the Bennett saga is,

In my own words.

Ryan has moved to GRIMSBY but would rather drive to Rotherham to play his football.

Why ?  He does not need the money he has good memories of his time here.

He is fed up of the commute to Cambridge.

If he does not sign it will be Hurst that decided he is not required for whatever reason.


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I know F***all  .I know this as i have been told by a few fishy posters , And the fishy posters are alwase right.  so i am saying nothing  
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Last time I say it...Blackman will not even pick up the phone to PH.
He turned down league 1 Exeter for more money.
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Quoted from Davec
I don't hear much but I have heard a genuine rumour.

I can confirm ladies and gentleman that we will sign a goalkeeper between now and the start of the season, I can't reveal my source nor can I reveal the goalkeepers name but I can confirm we will sign a goalkeeper!


Well if this doesn’t happen you are going to look very very silly 🙂
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Inbound.....literally....


private jet flying into Humberside Airport from Malaga as we speak.

Could be nothing. Probably IS nothing. But you just never know
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Inbound.....literally....


private jet flying into Humberside Airport from Malaga as we speak.

Could be nothing. Probably IS nothing. But you just never know


Probably Fabregas coming to plead with Hurst to sign him.
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Probably Fabregas coming to plead with Hurst to sign him.


Ooh is that one still on? We were so close to signing him last season…
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Inbound.....literally....


private jet flying into Humberside Airport from Malaga as we speak.

Could be nothing. Probably IS nothing. But you just never know


sorry, that was me. Special offer at the Royal Oak, so took advantage n took me mum.

ps a very interesting season awaits imho. there's been a tweak/change in strategy I think; will be interesting to see how the data lead approach works in div 4
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Last time I say it...Blackman will not even pick up the phone to PH.
He turned down league 1 Exeter for more money.


There’s a flight coming into Humberside later today from Newquay. So you never know 😅😅😅

(Yes I admit I have an addiction with Flightradar24….am seeking help!)


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Quoted from forza ivano


ps a very interesting season awaits imho. there's been a tweak/change in strategy I think; will be interesting to see how the data lead approach works in div 4


A change from our previous norm or one from what we were told and/or are expecting?
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ps a very interesting season awaits imho. there's been a tweak/change in strategy I think; will be interesting to see how the data lead approach works in div 4


Will be interesting to see long term how this works. At the moment I suspect it’s Paul Hurst’s picks being backed up by the data as opposed to players identified due to it. Rose, Eisa and Mullarkey all players he’s had/had interest in before.

In the last few weeks of the window I’m sure it’s a case of we will maybe have 1/2 outside the box, that take us by surprise led by the data.


All Town aren’t we

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Quoted from forza ivano



ps a very interesting season awaits imho. there's been a tweak/change in strategy I think; it will be interesting to see how the data lead approach works in div 4


It is fascinating, I'm really curious if it will work at this level, with a limited budget and with our (dare I say it) location.  I really hope it does.

I can't help though thinking that, generally if we are only interested in free transfers (and yes I know we paid a little for a couple but that won't happen every year) then there is a finite number of players available, then take away those that we can't afford, those that don't want to come, those that aren't the type of personality we want etc...... and aren't you back where we where anyway, potentially 2 or 3  players max for each position and we just work down the list?

As I say I DO hope it works and its our USP from a profession point of view.
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Have it on extremely good authority that we’ve signed two more players, won’t say who.

Bennett isn’t one of them though, although that deal does still look promising, there’s a couple of bits that need resolving on Bennett’s side apparently.
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Have it on extremely good authority that we’ve signed two more players, won’t say who.

Bennett isn’t one of them though, although that deal does still look promising, there’s a couple of bits that need resolving on Bennett’s side apparently.


Can you give positions or some clues atleast!
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Can you give positions or some clues atleast!


By won’t say, it’s the person who won’t tell me..
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I’d imagine a GK……
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I’d imagine a GK……


Kinky!
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Have it on extremely good authority that we’ve signed two more players, won’t say who.

Bennett isn’t one of them though, although that deal does still look promising, there’s a couple of bits that need resolving on Bennett’s side apparently.


Now that’s the pontoonlew we all know and love
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Now that’s the pontoonlew we all know and love


I'm not convinced. Strong 'we'll announce the signing of someone at some point' vibes for me.
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😂


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I'm not convinced. Strong 'we'll announce the signing of someone at some point' vibes for me.


I’m not going to hit the heights of last season but I’m going down fighting
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Tantalising stuff. But at least we are spared the ridiculous post facto justifications of that Phillipe bloke who seemed obsessed with trying to maintain the illusion that he was somehow in the know. He fooled a few though.
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private jet flying into Humberside Airport from Malaga as we speak.

Could be nothing. Probably IS nothing. But you just never know


SERGIO BUSQUETS, been saying it for weeks
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SERGIO BUSQUETS, been saying it for weeks


Have you got Tourettes?


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Have you got Tourettes?


Where does he play? Is he a big number 9?


Miss Scunthorpe. Not a beauty pageant, just sound advice.
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Where does he play? Is he a big number 9?


You know. Frenchman. Swears a lot
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Chadwick going Stockport
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Chadwick going Stockport


Who is out the door at Stockport then. Quigley is surely surplus there now.
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Kyle Jameson is Newport bound
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Think Accrington.
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Think Accrington.


They're going to need a better catchphrase than that if they want to boost tourism
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Has The Fishy started charging by the word or something?
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Kyle Jameson is Newport bound


Omar home.


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Harvey Rodgers is a bit of an educated guess
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Harvey Rodgers is a bit of an educated guess


Him or Cartwright for me. Pretty sure the data will back me up on the fact no team has ever been promoted from L2 with more than one Harvey.
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Him or Cartwright for me. Pretty sure the data will back me up on the fact no team has ever been promoted from L2 with more than one Harvey.


Workington went up in 1963 with Colin Harvey and Harvey Weinstein in their midfield engine room.


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Him or Cartwright for me. Pretty sure the data will back me up on the fact no team has ever been promoted from L2 with more than one Harvey.


Cartwright is coming on loan, pretty known i thought
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Cartwright is coming on loan, pretty known i thought


Not by me it wasn't. If only there was a thread it could have been posted in for those of us with absolutely no inside track from anyone.
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Not by me it wasn't. If only there was a thread it could have been posted in for those of us with absolutely no inside track from anyone.


Good point, someone should create one.
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What’s the deal with Cartwright. Highly rated and played for England at youth level, but only 3 EFL appearances behind him at 21.

Is he deemed to be ready for the rigours of regular, League Two football?


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What’s the deal with Cartwright. Highly rated and played for England at youth level, but only 3 EFL appearances behind him at 21.

Is he deemed to be ready for the rigours of regular, League Two football?


I think Dean Henderson had similar stats when we signed him
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I think Dean Henderson had similar stats when we signed him


Yeah, that's going to be the most natural example people are going to make. I suppose the slight difference is that Henderson was 19 when Hurst signed him (and Bignot eventually played him), whereas Cartwright is 21. At 21, Henderson was signing on loan for Sheffield United in the Championship having played almost a full season (and a play-off final) in League One, in addition to his time here.

That's not to suggest that I don't think Cartwright would be up to it; I asked the question as I genuinely don't know very much about him beyond what I can Google.


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What’s the deal with Cartwright. Highly rated and played for England at youth level, but only 3 EFL appearances behind him at 21.

Is he deemed to be ready for the rigours of regular, League Two football?


Poor choice of loans, he joined Peterborough when they already had Bergstom in from Chelsea on loan who is rated very highly. Now a full Finland international so found game time limited and was cut short. He then joins Wycombe and was signed by Ainsworth but they already had 2 very capable goalkeepers and Ainsworth left shortly after.
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Workington went up in 1964 with Keith Burkinshaw in their midfield!
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Chadwick signed for Stockport
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Let’s all pretend we didn’t want him anyway


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We were never in for Chadwick as posted a couple of weeks ago only Stockport and Accrington had genuine interest in him, shame wouldn't of minded him here but with Wilson and rose signing we are probably in the market for a big centre forward


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Don't think we will be going for the big target man approach. We seem to be signing players that are quick and can receive the ball to feet rather than stick it on his head approach. Big target men are going out of fashion now in favour of quick more mobile and clever center forwards
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Don't think we will be going for the big target man approach. We seem to be signing players that are quick and can receive the ball to feet rather than stick it on his head approach. Big target men are going out of fashion now in favour of quick more mobile and clever center forwards


Yeah Haaland and Kane are tiny. Just cause your big doesn't mean you're a lump now a days .
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Wouldn’t mind an alternative option up there though. Orsi’s the tallest striker we’ve got at 6’2” but I’ve seen more meat on a gnat’s cøck and I don’t think Hurst is completely keen on him. All well & good intending not to engage in a physical battle up top, but the better teams force you to play how they want, and it’s a bit much hoping for Danny Rose to outjump every 6’4” centre half for a season.
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Quoted from mimma
Don't think we will be going for the big target man approach. We seem to be signing players that are quick and can receive the ball to feet rather than stick it on his head approach. Big target men are going out of fashion now in favour of quick more mobile and clever center forwards


From PH interviews throughout the season I’d be surprised if we didn’t have the option. At times we struggled to play differently against the bigger/more attritional teams. Rose has a record of being a good focal point but imagine we’d want a 6ft plus fella to hit from time to time if needed.


All Town aren’t we

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Wouldn’t mind an alternative option up there though. Orsi’s the tallest striker we’ve got at 6’2” but I’ve seen more meat on a gnat’s cøck and I don’t think Hurst is completely keen on him. All well & good intending not to engage in a physical battle up top, but the better teams force you to play how they want, and it’s a bit much hoping for Danny Rose to outjump every 6’4” centre half for a season.


Orsi 6 ft 2?!?! And in other news, Priti Patel has Keir Hardie tattooed on her left thigh.


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Orsi 6 ft 2?!?! And in other news, Priti Patel has Keir Hardie tattooed on her left thigh.


My thoughts exactly, thought he was about 5ft 9
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Harry Smith still a viable option? Seem to remember him being linked in January
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My thoughts exactly, thought he was about 5ft 9


Sorry, I don’t make the stats
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He's 6'2" tall but jumps to around 5'11".
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He's 6'2" tall but jumps to around 5'11".


He's still recovering from that back injury
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you watching that flightradar with woz?
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You must be talking about Scunthorpe Utd just signed a good player from Aberdeen who must be on decent money  , seems mad they are constructing a decent side.
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You must be talking about Scunthorpe Utd just signed a good player from Aberdeen who must be on decent money  , seems mad they are constructing a decent side.


Christ, it’s Callum Roberts. If that name doesn’t ring a bell, he scored an excellent, individual goal for Notts County in the league game at Meadow Lane (1:10 in the video below) and then famously went off in the first-half of the play-offs after their physio overdosed a painkilling injection in his foot to the point he had no feeling in it.

That was a big moment at the time I felt; he was their John McAtee and one of the best players in the National League that season. It hasn’t worked out for him at Aberdeen mainly due to injury, but I’d have been pretty happy to have had him here last summer.

Really hard to work out what the game is at Scunny. It just doesn’t stack up.



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Are you sitting in the railway station with a ticket to your destination?
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Christ, it’s Callum Roberts. If that name doesn’t ring a bell, he scored an excellent, individual goal for Notts County in the league game at Meadow Lane (1:10 in the video below) and then famously went off in the first-half of the play-offs after their physio overdosed a painkilling injection in his foot to the point he had no feeling in it.

That was a big moment at the time I felt; he was their John McAtee and one of the best players in the National League that season. It hasn’t worked out for him at Aberdeen mainly due to injury, but I’d have been pretty happy to have had him here last summer.

Really hard to work out what the game is at Scunny. It just doesn’t stack up.



Seems they are tempting some promising players, presumably by offering big wages. Now what could possibly go wrong?
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Are you sitting in the railway station with a ticket to your destination?


No I'm watching 2 dogs and cat try to get home
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Christ, it’s Callum Roberts. If that name doesn’t ring a bell, he scored an excellent, individual goal for Notts County in the league game at Meadow Lane (1:10 in the video below) and then famously went off in the first-half of the play-offs after their physio overdosed a painkilling injection in his foot to the point he had no feeling in it.

That was a big moment at the time I felt; he was their John McAtee and one of the best players in the National League that season. It hasn’t worked out for him at Aberdeen mainly due to injury, but I’d have been pretty happy to have had him here last summer.

Really hard to work out what the game is at Scunny. It just doesn’t stack up.



No I did not make the first one and for the second game too far gone with all the late drama and beers to remember much before all the carnage .
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Dodgy money must stretch a bit further than legit money.


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Charles Vernam, finally.
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Vernam signing today


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Remind me, does he play on the opposite wing to Khan?
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I picked up a Jeffrey Archer in the local charity shop recently. Called "Only time will tell" and the main character is called Harry Clifton who lived his young life in a dockland area and whose boyhood dream was playing for Bristol City
Mmmmmm???
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I picked up a Jeffrey Archer in the local charity shop recently. Called "Only time will tell" and the main character is called Harry Clifton who lived his young life in a dockland area and whose boyhood dream was playing for Bristol City
Mmmmmm???
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I picked up an E.L.James book thinking it was about living with colourblindess (an issue for yours truly).  Reading it nearly made me blind I can tell you
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Charles Vernam, finally.


To be announced today?


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To be announced today?


I’m not predicting when announcements will be anymore 😂 but he was at the ground earlier.
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Charles Vernam, finally.


How many windows has this saga been going on for? at least 4 I reckon.


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How many windows has this saga been going on for? at least 4 I reckon.


Something like that - over soon though… finally 😂


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Something like that - over soon though… finally 😂


How about 5pm?


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How about 5pm?


Not happening
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Not happening


Why you so sure about that then?.
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Charles Vernam, finally.


What about Ryan Bennett, you promised us he was signing last week?
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If Vernam signs, he'll have signed for 3 different GTFC managers. Is this a first?


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How about 5pm?


6?


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Done deal. 3 year


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Doubt it would be announced today, only got back off holiday last night would have done all the contact etc today. Expect anything on Thursday
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Doubt it would be announced today, only got back off holiday last night would have done all the contact etc today. Expect anything on Thursday


Yeah, not sure about that. Pretty confident


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Yeah, not sure about that. Pretty confident


About it being announced today? Or the deal?
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What about Ryan Bennett, you promised us he was signing last week?


Bennett isn’t done still, anyone that says it’s done is a liar but anybody saying it’s 100% off is also off the mark.

It’s likely to happen, but there’s some things that need ironing out from Bennett’s side, mainly on him wanting to play for us. Money isn’t coming into it and the location does work, the issue lays with the fact he didn’t have a fantastic experience with us in January. Couldn’t be more confident on the source that told me all of that.
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Doubt it would be announced today, only got back off holiday last night would have done all the contact etc today. Expect anything on Thursday


Did you have a nice time?
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Remind me, does he play on the opposite wing to Khan?


Will Khan be a regular? Shouldn’t we be looking to upgrade in all positions?
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Vernam announced 6pm ✅


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Bennett isn’t done still, anyone that says it’s done is a liar but anybody saying it’s 100% off is also off the mark.

It’s likely to happen, but there’s some things that need ironing out from Bennett’s side, mainly on him wanting to play for us. Money isn’t coming into it and the location does work, the issue lays with the fact he didn’t have a fantastic experience with us in January. Couldn’t be more confident on the source that told me all of that.


Strange on that, and what the experience actually was. Always seems PH has a good group and environment.


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Vernam announced 6pm ✅


Might happen
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Bennett isn’t done still, anyone that says it’s done is a liar but anybody saying it’s 100% off is also off the mark.

It’s likely to happen, but there’s some things that need ironing out from Bennett’s side, mainly on him wanting to play for us.


Just the minor details then 🙃
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Bennett isn’t done still, anyone that says it’s done is a liar but anybody saying it’s 100% off is also off the mark.

It’s likely to happen, but there’s some things that need ironing out from Bennett’s side, mainly on him wanting to play for us. Money isn’t coming into it and the location does work, the issue lays with the fact he didn’t have a fantastic experience with us in January. Couldn’t be more confident on the source that told me all of that.


With that level of detail either your source is Bennett himself or you're making it up
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Bennett isn’t done still, anyone that says it’s done is a liar but anybody saying it’s 100% off is also off the mark.

It’s likely to happen, but there’s some things that need ironing out from Bennett’s side, mainly on him wanting to play for us. Money isn’t coming into it and the location does work, the issue lays with the fact he didn’t have a fantastic experience with us in January. Couldn’t be more confident on the source that told me all of that.


This is correct. There was something quite not right whilst he was training with us in January. Was speaking to a current player about it and well…his face said it all.




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Bennett isn’t done still, anyone that says it’s done is a liar but anybody saying it’s 100% off is also off the mark.

It’s likely to happen, but there’s some things that need ironing out from Bennett’s side, mainly on him wanting to play for us. Money isn’t coming into it and the location does work, the issue lays with the fact he didn’t have a fantastic experience with us in January. Couldn’t be more confident on the source that told me all of that.


Not sure I understand that. ‘He didn’t have a fantastic experience with us in January?’ You mean, a training experience?


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Was asked to bring the cones in.


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Vernam announced 6pm ✅


Here we go!



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With that level of detail either your source is Bennett himself or you're making it up


I’m a bit old to be making stuff on a forum for some engagement but you’re welcome to your opinion of course
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Bennett isn’t done still, anyone that says it’s done is a liar but anybody saying it’s 100% off is also off the mark.

It’s likely to happen, but there’s some things that need ironing out from Bennett’s side, mainly on him wanting to play for us. Money isn’t coming into it and the location does work, the issue lays with the fact he didn’t have a fantastic experience with us in January. Couldn’t be more confident on the source that told me all of that.


Whatever happened with Bennett is strange, Pearson finally went on loan to Boston after weeks of Hurst telling them Bennett will be signing any day and then you can have him on loan.
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Not sure I want Bennett then if it upsets the apple cart.


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James/Chaos - you have p.m.'s


Can I have one too 😁
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Not sure I understand that. ‘He didn’t have a fantastic experience with us in January?’ You mean, a training experience?


No idea if true but on the Cambridge forum at the time it claimed that Hurst had asked Bennett to train with our youngsters and he had declined, or something similar. Perhaps that's what he is referring to?
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Right then lads who’s next up?
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Right then lads who’s next up?


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Looks like a very exciting young goalkeeper. Would he be an instant #1 or would Hurst go for an older hand for experience?
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We wanted Cartwright in January to come in as number 2 to Crocombe. Hull weren’t keen on the idea and he then went to Wycombe, have to Imagine we’ve given some assurances that we plan on him being number 1 this time round.
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Must have something about him if two League 1 teams have taken him. Imagine Croudson will have worked with him before too.

Interview here, from 14:55 onwards - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0fw8nnz
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Harvey Cartwright  


Thankyou very much  
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Great signing this, glad it’s finally got over the line after what seems like years 😂

Not yet back for pre season but already we have added a hell of a lot of pace and attacking threat into the team. Vernam we all know what he does, but Eisa if we can get the Scunthorpe version will be massive for us and from everything I hear we really like Wilson and think there’s a lot of potential that has gone untapped by Sutton. Possibly Wilson an example of the data/recruitment team doing a good job.  As for Rose, his record speaks for itself.

So far I think everyone’s really positive about all the signings we’ve made, they are real good and smart signings for me.

Yet another fee paid. Maybe the usual suspects can put that stick to beat the club with away for a while now?!


All Town aren’t we

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Great signing this, glad it’s finally got over the line after what seems like years 😂

Not yet back for pre season but already we have added a hell of a lot of pace and attacking threat into the team. Vernam we all know what he does, but Eisa if we can get the Scunthorpe version will be massive for us and from everything I hear we really like Wilson and think there’s a lot of potential that has gone untapped by Sutton. Possibly Wilson an example of the data/recruitment team doing a good job.  As for Rose, his record speaks for itself.

So far I think everyone’s really positive about all the signings we’ve made, they are real good and smart signings for me.

Yet another fee paid. Maybe the usual suspects can put that stick to beat the club with away for a while now?!


But then what would they do to release their anger?


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But then what would they do to release their anger?


Think you underestimate their ability to find something 😂


All Town aren’t we

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But then what would they do to release their anger?


The poor scotch eggs...
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£5 is still a fee…
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The poor scotch eggs...


I suppose with those big sideburns Bob's head does look a bit like a scotch egg when you've eaten some of the sausage before the egg!



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Must have something about him if two League 1 teams have taken him. Imagine Croudson will have worked with him before too.

Interview here, from 14:55 onwards - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0fw8nnz


He has also made 1 appearance for both the England U18 and U20 sides as well as 2 appearances for Hull City in the Championship.

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£5 is still a fee…


That for Vernam or the scotch egg?
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We wanted Cartwright in January to come in as number 2 to Crocombe. Hull weren’t keen on the idea and he then went to Wycombe, have to Imagine we’ve given some assurances that we plan on him being number 1 this time round.


lot of old timers (especially from The Imp) will know his dad
Think Harvey was brought up watching Town.
lovely to see it being kept local

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lot of old timers (especially from The Imp) will know his dad
Think Harvey was brought up watching Town.
lovely to see it being kept local


He’s best mates with Battersby, still a local lad.
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If a thread already exists, please feel free to merge Admins.

Right, on the back of the gossip last night, plus what I've heard over the last couple of weeks, I'm going in early ,and right in at the deep end with my predictions

The story is that we are in advanced negotiations with 3 players , with PH wanting to get things sorted early doors.

But I'll start with an easy one - Bryn Morris will be released and will end up at the Poolies

the 3 targets are

1) Nick Houghton from Fylde
2) Finn Shrimpton from the scunts
3) Charles Vernham from Lincoln

Right , I'm off to put my tin hat on, and try and shelter from the incoming fire  


well I've got 1 out of 3 , surely enough to lift me out of the relegation zone???. think I was also pretty early on the Harvey Cartwright one as well

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Go on then Forza, if you're spilling stories I'm happy to be a nosey illegitimate recipient.  

Cartwright would be another coup I reckon. Highly rated, great pedigree and to top it off a GTFC fan too! Also it's another example of the value of relationship building and the benefit of being good with people and talent.

Hull clearly recognise the value in sending lads here. It pains me in a way that we've become a side who is grateful for Cartwright, Smith, Townsend et al coming here to develop their game, I remember Chris Hargreaves and Neil Mann going the other way because they couldn't get a decent chance here. But until the natural order or the Estuary is re-established, let's make use of their elevated status to our benefit!

Word travels and the more we look after talent, be it ours or borrowed, the more appealing we are to loaning clubs and players themselves.
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well I've got 1 out of 3 , surely enough to lift me out of the relegation zone???. think I was also pretty early on the Harvey Cartwright one as well



If [redacted] comes off then one of the usual relegation zone inhabitants may pull themselves out at your expense, as he text me the name about 3 weeks back! It’s getting tense down there.
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lot of old timers (especially from The Imp) will know his dad
Think Harvey was brought up watching Town.
lovely to see it being kept local

Rodley n Toontown - you have p.m.s!


Am I the only one starting to feel left out
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well I've got 1 out of 3 , surely enough to lift me out of the relegation zone???. think I was also pretty early on the Harvey Cartwright one as well




I'm still led to believe Shrimpton is on the cards. By all accounts he wasn't happy to be facing a NLN future, if that view has eased a little with their flurry of activity is anyone's guess.

For us it wouldn't be a major signing, but for them it would be a huge blow to sell a promising talent to your local rivals. Wouldn't rule it out, but would expect anything to be done later in the summer.
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Definitely a positive Vernam returning.
Really good that it's another 3 year deal, I  think this is a huge change that we can commit to a player.

On a different note I wonder if we have offered Glennon a new improved contract? Wouldn't really expect him to sign it but I think financially it would make a lot of sense.
He has real potential still....
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There could be a new name in Ska's league table if Cartwright joins. Tan Kessler - if someone can get some concrete Andy Smith news from him, he would surely stand a good chance of winning this window?
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Could these signings lead to Hurst having a tactic tweak. Perhaps more a 4-2-3-1 formation....

                                                GK

Efete.      Mullarkey/Waterfall.     Maher.     Glennon

                        Green/Holohan.     Hunt/Khouri

        Eisa./ Wilson         Clifton/Khan.            Vernam

                                     Rose/Target man

Would certainly see us attacking at pace with potentially goals across our front lines
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Could these signings lead to Hurst having a tactic tweak. Perhaps more a 4-2-3-1 formation....

                                                GK

Efete.      Mullarkey/Waterfall.     Maher.     Glennon

                        Green/Holohan.     Hunt/Khouri

        Eisa./ Wilson         Clifton/Khan.            Vernam

                                     Rose/Target man

Would certainly see us attacking at pace with potentially goals across our front lines


That is a strong side already for last seasons league 2 (providing we get a goalkeeper) but this seasons league 2 is going to be so much more competitive I just hope the fans stick with the team no matter what. I do have a good feeling about it but its going to be one hell of a season for any neutral league 2 watchers. Their must be atleast 15 teams realistically looking and aiming for those promotion spots.
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That is a strong side already for last seasons league 2 (providing we get a goalkeeper) but this seasons league 2 is going to be so much more competitive I just hope the fans stick with the team no matter what. I do have a good feeling about it but its going to be one hell of a season for any neutral league 2 watchers. Their must be atleast 15 teams realistically looking and aiming for those promotion spots.


Without being contradictory you’d have to think that 24 teams are wanting to get promoted surely?


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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That is a strong side already for last seasons league 2 (providing we get a goalkeeper) but this seasons league 2 is going to be so much more competitive I just hope the fans stick with the team no matter what. I do have a good feeling about it but its going to be one hell of a season for any neutral league 2 watchers. Their must be atleast 15 teams realistically looking and aiming for those promotion spots.


Wrexham,Notts,Stockport,Salford,Mansfield , MK , Bradford ,Doncaster and  Gillingham will all EXPECT promotion ; they all can't go up and some won't do as well as expected .

I feel we are in that tier just below who have a shot but there is not quite that level of expecation (realistically ) - probably us , Barrow , AFC Wimbledon (after a few good signings) and maybe Accrington as they seem to have a good setup will be the closest thing to 'dark horses'  we will see in league 2 . Will be interesting to see the fixtures tomorrow - ideally for me we get the likes of Sutton,Morecambe  , Crawley and Crewe early on as they seem to not really be recruiting and in a mess ; would be a good chance (in theory) to get some momentum and points on the board.

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Not sure if it’s been previously mentioned but the Hull City chairman actually confirmed the Cartwright loan to us in an interview with Matt Dean.


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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Not sure if it’s been previously mentioned but the Hull City chairman actually confirmed the Cartwright loan to us in an interview with Matt Dean.


It has. Question is, first choice or second? I would assume the expectation is that he gets to play his fair share of football here, so he may be the only goalkeeper we sign.


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It has. Question is, first choice or second? I would assume the expectation is that he gets to play his fair share of football here, so he may be the only goalkeeper we sign.


I think that would put is in a very vulnerable position. If Cartwright were to get injured, we would be a bit stuffed - at least if Crocombe ever got injured we had Battersby to come in.
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I think that would put is in a very vulnerable position. If Cartwright were to get injured, we would be a bit stuffed - at least if Crocombe ever got injured we had Battersby to come in.


The idea, as has been floated previously on this thread, is that if your “senior” ‘keeper becomes unavailable, in the absence of an established replacement you are permitted by the FA to bring in an emergency loan.

Had Crocombe been injured last season, this is almost certainly what would have happened. Battersby wouldn’t have played. The theory is that you save on an unnecessary wage for as long as your first choice goalkeeper remains available.


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Not knocking the lad, I don't know anything about him but is he any good are we just overeating him cos he's local?

It would be a major risk signing a 21 year old keeper with just 3 pro games under his belt to be our only goalkeeper, if he gets injured then yes we can sign emergency loan but if he's simply no good or suffers a loss of form we can't sign an emergency loan? Surely we need competition to get the best out of him.
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It has. Question is, first choice or second? I would assume the expectation is that he gets to play his fair share of football here, so he may be the only goalkeeper we sign.


Ah fair enough. Yeah with him not getting much game time in his previous loans there has to be some sort of agreement where he is first choice. Wouldn’t surprise me to see a more experienced back up join as well, maybe not a big name player but someone who knows they’re coming in to be second choice, help develop and push Harvey and ready to step in if need be.


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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Not knocking the lad, I don't know anything about him but is he any good are we just overeating him cos he's local?

It would be a major risk signing a 21 year old keeper with just 3 pro games under his belt to be our only goalkeeper, if he gets injured then yes we can sign emergency loan but if he's simply no good or suffers a loss of form we can't sign an emergency loan? Surely we need competition to get the best out of him.


Made appearances at England U18, U20 level. Probably not on the same level as Deano but he'd played only 9 games before joining us and look how his career has panned out.
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I know I keep saying this, but I think we’ll se a 4-1-4-1 formation next season. And Mullarkey might potentially fit into that system as the defensive midfielder.

It’s the formation Hurst used at Shrewsbury when he had 5 players get to 10 goals or more in his squad- 2 strikers and 3 midfielders.
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Not knocking the lad, I don't know anything about him but is he any good are we just overeating him cos he's local?

It would be a major risk signing a 21 year old keeper with just 3 pro games under his belt to be our only goalkeeper, if he gets injured then yes we can sign emergency loan but if he's simply no good or suffers a loss of form we can't sign an emergency loan? Surely we need competition to get the best out of him.


I agree, but everyone starts somewhere, just look at Dean Henderson. Never played a pro game before us if i remember correctly.
Yes, we definitely need 2 keepers in the squad though.
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Not knocking the lad, I don't know anything about him but is he any good are we just overeating him cos he's local?

It would be a major risk signing a 21 year old keeper with just 3 pro games under his belt to be our only goalkeeper, if he gets injured then yes we can sign emergency loan but if he's simply no good or suffers a loss of form we can't sign an emergency loan? Surely we need competition to get the best out of him.


Signing any keeper is a risk, but everyone needs one. Sometimes you’ve just got to suck it & see, you could sign a keeper who’s played hundreds of games and been player of the season for two years running and they end up having a few seasons like McKeown did from 2019. Or you could put a kid in and they end up playing like Lev Yashin - you’ll never know until they get a run of games.

If you’re going to take a punt on anyone, it might as well be a highly-rated u20 international keeper who doesn’t cost you anything bar wages.
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I know I keep saying this, but I think we’ll se a 4-1-4-1 formation next season. And Mullarkey might potentially fit into that system as the defensive midfielder.

It’s the formation Hurst used at Shrewsbury when he had 5 players get to 10 goals or more in his squad- 2 strikers and 3 midfielders.


Good shout, you could be onto something there- I still think we'll have a 4-3-3 with a 'keep us tiki-taka' mantra from El General, but we can play any formation you want as long as our xG looks like our actual G this season
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I'd like to us to have 2 decent keepers who push each other on. The relying on the emergency loan at possibly very short notice thing is a bit Fenty!


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Quoted from Davec
Not knocking the lad, I don't know anything about him but is he any good are we just overeating him cos he's local?

It would be a major risk signing a 21 year old keeper with just 3 pro games under his belt to be our only goalkeeper, if he gets injured then yes we can sign emergency loan but if he's simply no good or suffers a loss of form we can't sign an emergency loan? Surely we need competition to get the best out of him.


You could have said that about Jo Hart at Shrewsbury and many others .

IF he's good enough give him the chance , and when he makes the odd error(which all keepers do,especially young one's) back him and we might have a superstar ; we just don't know .

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There could be a new name in Ska's league table if Cartwright joins. Tan Kessler - if someone can get some concrete Andy Smith news from him, he would surely stand a good chance of winning this window?


Understand Smith is going on loan to Lincoln.

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Some names that some had said have already or ‘as near as’ signed; wonder if they are still on the Radar

Shaq Forde - Watford
Luke Hannant - Ex ColU
Millenic Alli - Halifax
Ryan Bennett - Cambridge

Others that have been mentioned too:

Alex Pattison - Ex Harrogate
JJ Debrah - Halifax

Would love to see:

Josh Vickers - GK released by Rotherham.
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Some names that some had said have already or ‘as near as’ signed; wonder if they are still on the Radar

Shaq Forde - Watford
Luke Hannant - Ex ColU
Millenic Alli - Halifax
Ryan Bennett - Cambridge

Others that have been mentioned too:

Alex Pattison - Ex Harrogate
JJ Debrah - Halifax

Would love to see:

Josh Vickers - GK released by Rotherham.


Forde dead in the water, change at Watford means he'll be staying put for the time being.
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Some names that some had said have already or ‘as near as’ signed; wonder if they are still on the Radar

Shaq Forde - Watford
Luke Hannant - Ex ColU
Millenic Alli - Halifax
Ryan Bennett - Cambridge

Others that have been mentioned too:

Alex Pattison - Ex Harrogate
JJ Debrah - Halifax

Would love to see:

Josh Vickers - GK released by Rotherham.


Vickers just signed for Derby, so that’s one we can scratch off.


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Forde dead in the water, change at Watford means he'll be staying put for the time being.


By that logic Watford would never loan anyone out. They’re always a month or 2 away from a manager being appointed or him being sacked.

And for what it’s worth I don’t think Watford Head Coaches have any input whatsoever in transfer activity.
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I've seen a few people mention we are in talks with an Accrington player tbf
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Does that all but rule out a Bennett return then?


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Accrington Stanley? Who are they?






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Rodgers, a goal scoring centre-half who’s also partial to a card. Played over 100 games in League One, including 40-odd last season. From Selby and came up through the Hulll yoof ranks.

Would be a very decent signing on paper, but might also suggest the Bennett deal isn’t happening.


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Rodgers, a goal scoring centre-half who’s also partial to a card. Played over 100 games in League One, including 40-odd last season. From Selby and came up through the Hulll yoof ranks.

Would be a very decent signing on paper, but might also suggest the Bennett deal isn’t happening.


Was the Bennett Deal ever happening?!
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Would be happy with that, 41 games, 4 goals and 2 assist last season in the league above, 6'2" .....be some competition for our starting CB positions if he signs!
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Possibly worth noting that Rodgers hasn’t been released by Accrington; they’ve offered him a new deal. Looks a decent player and a good age at 26.

Typically, those Pete O’Rourke “exclusives” tend to be followed by an announcement from the club within 24 - 48 hours.


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I understand the disappointment if Bennett doesn't sign, but IMO, on paper, this guy looks a better deal all round
prime age, and been playing regularly in the league above... only going to get better.
This is the type of signing we normally see Wrexham, Salford, Bradford etc make.
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Rodgers, a goal scoring centre-half who’s also partial to a card. Played over 100 games in League One, including 40-odd last season. From Selby and came up through the Hulll yoof ranks.

Would be a very decent signing on paper, but might also suggest the Bennett deal isn’t happening.


He looks a good signing. Maybe Mullarkey is likely to play RB rather than CB which could still leave room for Bennett?
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He looks a good signing. Maybe Mullarkey is likely to play RB rather than CB which could still leave room for Bennett?


Maybe Mullarkey will play alongside Rodgers? Rodgers feels like a Waterfall upgrade to me.

Still think Michee will be a different beast this coming season after a year of learning the League and a proper winger in front of him.


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Think this a marquee signing for this league. Quality player who Accrington wanted to keep. Love our signings at the moment. Some sign that we are going to be a tough side to play against
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Maybe Mullarkey will play alongside Rodgers? Rodgers feels like a Waterfall upgrade to me.

Still think Michee will be a different beast this coming season after a year of learning the League and a proper winger in front of him.


The positivity is great atm, but if Efetee is our main RB next season, we won't be challenging for play-offs, he's just not good enough against the better teams.
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I understand the disappointment if Bennett doesn't sign, but IMO, on paper, this guy looks a better deal all round
prime age, and been playing regularly in the league above... only going to get better.
This is the type of signing we normally see Wrexham, Salford, Bradford etc make.


I'd be inclined to agree with that. I've wanted Bennett to happen as much as anyone; there's no doubt he'd be a class act at this level. But a 26 year old who by all accounts looks to be comfortable at League One-level on a 2 or 3 year deal has to be the better long-term piece of business.

I'd be very happy with this if it comes off, and all signs suggest it will.


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Another absolute shithouse  


That's another daft loophole in the rules of the game. It should be both a goal and a red card.


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Rodgers, a goal scoring centre-half who’s also partial to a card. Played over 100 games in League One, including 40-odd last season. From Selby and came up through the Hulll yoof ranks.

Would be a very decent signing on paper, but might also suggest the Bennett deal isn’t happening.


Believe he is also competent at RB and LB.

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Have we considered that we may be losing a player or two?

Maybe we sign Bennett and Rodgers because we know we are losing Michee?
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Two Harvey's in the team.

Looks another good signing if true, and it probably is given the source.
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When you take this one with Cartwright you have to say all of these signings look like they’ve improved us in some way
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Such a shame that Hurst always shops in the loan bargain basement at the end.


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The squad shaping up very nicely. Interestingly, he played 10 league games at left back (as well as 1 at right back) last season, according to Whoscored.


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That is a strong side already for last seasons league 2 (providing we get a goalkeeper) but this seasons league 2 is going to be so much more competitive I just hope the fans stick with the team no matter what. I do have a good feeling about it but its going to be one hell of a season for any neutral league 2 watchers. Their must be atleast 15 teams realistically looking and aiming for those promotion spots.


A lad I went through training with messaged me the other day and said he's now a Town fan. Long story short, the guys in the pub he drinks in have got bored of Premier League so have come up with a game to make life interesting next season. This is what he sent me:

1) Random Team Selection: Each of you will be randomly assigned a football team from Division 2 to support for the entire season. This ensures a fair and unpredictable challenge.

2) Team Merchandise: As part of your newfound passion, you must purchase and wear your teams shirt on big game days. Feel free to don any other team merchandise as well to show your support.

3) Home Match Visit: Each participant must arrange to attend at least one home match of their chosen team. This provides an opportunity to experience the live atmosphere and connect with fellow fans.

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Think it's a class idea. He's already a Trust member now and I suggested coming on here to engage with fans to get info and opinions on players, history etc. Although he isn't 'neutral' per se in this with any luck he's going to enjoy the ride of being a Town fan, and given he is(was) a Blackburn fan I reckon we can get a conversion here. Worth noting these guys are all down in Reading too.
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Looks like a good signing if true. Does the guy at football insider have a good track record?
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Looks like a good signing if true. Does the guy at football insider have a good track record?


Very good, he's very much ITK
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Quoted from GollyGTFC
I know I keep saying this, but I think we’ll se a 4-1-4-1 formation next season. And Mullarkey might potentially fit into that system as the defensive midfielder.

It’s the formation Hurst used at Shrewsbury when he had 5 players get to 10 goals or more in his squad- 2 strikers and 3 midfielders.


4231/4141 they're all very similar but I do hope with the players he's brought in we do go with a slightly more attacking formation
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Very good, he's very much ITK


Yep, it’s as good as done.


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You say that, but he played both games against Northampton and Stockport and we took 10 points from a possible 12 against the teams that finished 3rd & 4th?
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When you take this one with Cartwright you have to say all of these signings look like they’ve improved us in some way


Cartwright would definitely improve us. As it stands Shaun Pearson would be coming out of retirement to be emergency goalkeeper.
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A lad I went through training with messaged me the other day and said he's now a Town fan. Long story short, the guys in the pub he drinks in have got bored of Premier League so have come up with a game to make life interesting next season. This is what he sent me:

1) Random Team Selection: Each of you will be randomly assigned a football team from Division 2 to support for the entire season. This ensures a fair and unpredictable challenge.

2) Team Merchandise: As part of your newfound passion, you must purchase and wear your teams shirt on big game days. Feel free to don any other team merchandise as well to show your support.

3) Home Match Visit: Each participant must arrange to attend at least one home match of their chosen team. This provides an opportunity to experience the live atmosphere and connect with fellow fans.

4) Expert Knowledge: To fully immerse yourself in your new team, you must become an expert on their brief history, players, tactics, and other relevant information. This will enhance your enjoyment and understanding of the game and ensure more abuse on match days!

5) Weekly Matches: As your teams face each other throughout the season, a weekly bet will be in place. The loser of the the match must pay the winner £5 or an equivalent amount in beer tokens. This adds a competitive element to your bet.

6) Going the extra mile: If you manage to get mentioned in the official teams press, social media accounts (like Twitter) or any other public platform, all other participants must arrange an all-expenses-paid night out on the town to celebrate your achievement.

Think it's a class idea. He's already a Trust member now and I suggested coming on here to engage with fans to get info and opinions on players, history etc. Although he isn't 'neutral' per se in this with any luck he's going to enjoy the ride of being a Town fan, and given he is(was) a Blackburn fan I reckon we can get a conversion here. Worth noting these guys are all down in Reading too.

One of my mates who I sometimes go to Town away matches down south with lives in Maidenhead, so he's not far from at least one Town fan in Reading. I'm sure he'll be more than welcome in the South/South East WhatsApp group if he wants to join. Plenty of people meet at matches regularly in that group.
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Such a shame that Hurst always shops in the loan bargain basement at the end.


Loans happen when we’ve been unable to sign our targets over the preseason.

I think most people felt we’d sign 11-12 senior players plus extras to replace any contracted players that depart.

We’re already at 5 players signed and announced. 2 appear to be signed but not announced. And 2 or 3 appear very close (including Ryan Bennett).

That would theoretically leave or 2 or 3 short of the size of senior squad Hurst likes working with (about 23 senior pros and a few young pros (such as Bramwell & Essel).

2 or 3 of the contracted players are bound to leave by the time the window closes (or after that if heading to the NL), so there’s still plenty of work to do.
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Pete O’Rourke is a good a source as any and has been breaking our transfer news early for the past 2-3 years. Delighted if this one gets over the line, I imagine again it will be a 3 year deal with possibly an upgraded wage from what Accrington was offering to entice him here.
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Pete O’Rourke is a good a source as any and has been breaking our transfer news early for the past 2-3 years. Delighted if this one gets over the line, I imagine again it will be a 3 year deal with possibly an upgraded wage from what Accrington was offering to entice him here.


I think the wage could be a factor but the fact he's grew up in Selby, location also playing in our favour perhaps?
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A lad I went through training with messaged me the other day and said he's now a Town fan. Long story short, the guys in the pub he drinks in have got bored of Premier League so have come up with a game to make life interesting next season. This is what he sent me:

1) Random Team Selection: Each of you will be randomly assigned a football team from Division 2 to support for the entire season. This ensures a fair and unpredictable challenge.

2) Team Merchandise: As part of your newfound passion, you must purchase and wear your teams shirt on big game days. Feel free to don any other team merchandise as well to show your support.

3) Home Match Visit: Each participant must arrange to attend at least one home match of their chosen team. This provides an opportunity to experience the live atmosphere and connect with fellow fans.

4) Expert Knowledge: To fully immerse yourself in your new team, you must become an expert on their brief history, players, tactics, and other relevant information. This will enhance your enjoyment and understanding of the game and ensure more abuse on match days!

5) Weekly Matches: As your teams face each other throughout the season, a weekly bet will be in place. The loser of the the match must pay the winner £5 or an equivalent amount in beer tokens. This adds a competitive element to your bet.

6) Going the extra mile: If you manage to get mentioned in the official teams press, social media accounts (like Twitter) or any other public platform, all other participants must arrange an all-expenses-paid night out on the town to celebrate your achievement.

Think it's a class idea. He's already a Trust member now and I suggested coming on here to engage with fans to get info and opinions on players, history etc. Although he isn't 'neutral' per se in this with any luck he's going to enjoy the ride of being a Town fan, and given he is(was) a Blackburn fan I reckon we can get a conversion here. Worth noting these guys are all down in Reading too.


I think this is roughly how Norfolk Imp decided he would ditch Lincoln when the going got tough for a cash rich Prem side, then sliding back as a two-team fan when fortune fell kindly at Sincil Bank.

The random generator for the team was slightly weighted to either Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool or Man Utd though.
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I've no idea on this Accrington lad, his stats look impressive enough but got to be honest I've never heard of him. Something I love about Hurst's signings more often than not.

I also don't have a clue if this puts an end to any hope of signing Bennett. However, I'm delighted that we're not sitting and waiting this time around. I've felt in previous windows the club have hoped too much on the maybe element that their preferred target would sign.  This year we're doing very good business early on, getting players in that other clubs either want to retain or pick up themselves. We're not just waiting for the scraps after everyone else has picked the juicy meat off.

I think we all ended last season with that hope and slight belief that 23/24 was the year we would really kick on. With every signing we make and statement of intent, I'm more and more confident it will be.

Yes, other teams are are strengthening and there isn't a set of fans who don't react to each signing with the HMS urine The League/Calling Lee Guan type. But I genuinely think Hurst is adding to a decent foundation. Despite the flaws of last season, despite that feeling of a missed opportunity... We still finished 11th with a monster cup run. Hurst will never admit it but I don't think he made anywhere near the signings he wanted last summer. He alluded to the shortened break both in terms of doing deals and player fatigue, yet never admitting he just missed out on too many of his main targets. That's why we ended up with the loan lads who just weren't up to it.

Green, Maher and Hunt were on his wanted list. Probably Glennon too. But that wasn't the strengthening he really wanted to do.  This year he's had the chance to get who he wants and get them in early.  If our foundations were good enough for 11th last season, even when we were copulated from March onwards, I can't not be excited for a season when we look to have improved significantly over the summer.
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Quoted from diehardmariner
I've no idea on this Accrington lad, his stats look impressive enough but got to be honest I've never heard of him. Something I love about Hurst's signings more often than not.

I also don't have a clue if this puts an end to any hope of signing Bennett. However, I'm delighted that we're not sitting and waiting this time around. I've felt in previous windows the club have hoped too much on the maybe element that their preferred target would sign.  This year we're doing very good business early on, getting players in that other clubs either want to retain or pick up themselves. We're not just waiting for the scraps after everyone else has picked the juicy meat off.

I think we all ended last season with that hope and slight belief that 23/24 was the year we would really kick on. With every signing we make and statement of intent, I'm more and more confident it will be.

Yes, other teams are are strengthening and there isn't a set of fans who don't react to each signing with the HMS urine The League/Calling Lee Guan type. But I genuinely think Hurst is adding to a decent foundation. Despite the flaws of last season, despite that feeling of a missed opportunity... We still finished 11th with a monster cup run. Hurst will never admit it but I don't think he made anywhere near the signings he wanted last summer. He alluded to the shortened break both in terms of doing deals and player fatigue, yet never admitting he just missed out on too many of his main targets. That's why we ended up with the loan lads who just weren't up to it.

Green, Maher and Hunt were on his wanted list. Probably Glennon too. But that wasn't the strengthening he really wanted to do.  This year he's had the chance to get who he wants and get them in early.  If our foundations were good enough for 11th last season, even when we were copulated from March onwards, I can't not be excited for a season when we look to have improved significantly over the summer.


Such a good post, this. So many factors in this summer break that make it a much different affair from last. PH is recruiting in a proper sized window, with the skeleton and major organs in place, with a strong notion of how he wants the team to play and a squad mentality and culture that genuinely seems very positive. Of course it might all go mammaries up, but the odds of that are much lower than last season. These are really good signings who the management think can work, live and play together at a high level. I vote to believe them. So very excited for this season. I truly want us to take 6 points off of Wrexham more than any other team if only to prove our lot are doing it the right way. UTM!
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Good post by DHM. I’m expecting us to fly out the blocks this season ala 21/22 with a proper rest and fully or almost fully built squad in place early doors. It should be exciting!
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Looks like ,alongside the data , that there is a definite regional trend.Rose, vernam, cartwright and Rodger ( a Ully Gully) all with locallish links . Thats in addition to clifton Khouri n the 5others from yorkshite - Green, holohan, maher, waterfall n hunt.

We ate starting to make the geography work for us
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I think the wage could be a factor but the fact he's grew up in Selby, location also playing in our favour perhaps?


Trust me, if he grew up in Selby, he’s gonna think that Cleethorpes looks like f***ing Cannes!  


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A lad I went through training with messaged me the other day and said he's now a Town fan. Long story short, the guys in the pub he drinks in have got bored of Premier League so have come up with a game to make life interesting next season. This is what he sent me:

1) Random Team Selection: Each of you will be randomly assigned a football team from Division 2 to support for the entire season. This ensures a fair and unpredictable challenge.

2) Team Merchandise: As part of your newfound passion, you must purchase and wear your teams shirt on big game days. Feel free to don any other team merchandise as well to show your support.

3) Home Match Visit: Each participant must arrange to attend at least one home match of their chosen team. This provides an opportunity to experience the live atmosphere and connect with fellow fans.

4) Expert Knowledge: To fully immerse yourself in your new team, you must become an expert on their brief history, players, tactics, and other relevant information. This will enhance your enjoyment and understanding of the game and ensure more abuse on match days!

5) Weekly Matches: As your teams face each other throughout the season, a weekly bet will be in place. The loser of the the match must pay the winner £5 or an equivalent amount in beer tokens. This adds a competitive element to your bet.

6) Going the extra mile: If you manage to get mentioned in the official teams press, social media accounts (like Twitter) or any other public platform, all other participants must arrange an all-expenses-paid night out on the town to celebrate your achievement.

Think it's a class idea. He's already a Trust member now and I suggested coming on here to engage with fans to get info and opinions on players, history etc. Although he isn't 'neutral' per se in this with any luck he's going to enjoy the ride of being a Town fan, and given he is(was) a Blackburn fan I reckon we can get a conversion here. Worth noting these guys are all down in Reading too.


If he's a Blackburn fan and got bored of the Premier League he needs to upgrade his Sky subscription. His appears to be from 2010.


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Fully expecting a Twitter teaser featuring Harvey Weinstein inside the next couple of hours.


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Fully expecting a Twitter teaser featuring Harvey Weinstein inside the next couple of hours.


Haven't they already had to apologise for a Harvey Price tweet?


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Haven't they already had to apologise for a Harvey Price tweet?


Gotta collect ‘em all.


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Fully expecting a Twitter teaser featuring Harvey Weinstein inside the next couple of hours.


No Brian Harvey running himself over after eating a dodgy jacket potato.
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No Brian Harvey running himself over after eating a dodgy jacket potato.


lolz



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It'll be the giant invisible rabbit, or a picture of Chaz 'n' Dave.....if they are super devious
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Max Sanders signed for Orient
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Fully expecting a Twitter teaser featuring Harvey Weinstein inside the next couple of hours.


They'll save that for Cartwright - something about Harvey's wandering hands.........
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Seen couple stanley fans on twitter saying they'll be gutted if it's true as he was a standout for them
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A fake twitter account looking like the official one has tweeted a 'teaser'.... don't fall for it again guys  
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A fake twitter account looking like the official one has tweeted a 'teaser'.... don't fall for it again guys  



Scrap that, the account and tweet have since been deleted
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Alex Pattison to Bradford
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Alex Pattison to Bradford


Decent signing for them that. Can’t help but feel we need to make at least really solid addition in midfield.


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Harvey Rodgers
Twitter says: 41 L1 games last season
He's turned down Stanley and Crewe to join us

We are starting to compete for better quality players

Money obvs talks but this is also down to a far more professional club - top to bottom
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An elaborate tease? Probably not…

Tweet 1671559141003755520 will appear here...


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Naylor confirmed by Chesterfield.. Very very good signing for that level. I would say that I would of liked him here but feel like we are OK with defensive midfielders.
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We will have 2 keepers this season.

Looks like a loan from a high flying premier league club incoming. Very very highly rated .used to playing on black and white stripes too, although not for the first team.
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We will have 2 keepers this season.

Looks like a loan from a high flying premier league club incoming. Very very highly rated .used to playing on black and white stripes too, although not for the first team.


Dan Langley?
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Quoted from monkeyboy
We will have 2 keepers this season.

Looks like a loan from a high flying premier league club incoming. Very very highly rated .used to playing on black and white stripes too, although not for the first team.


I doubt it but, I’d love it to be Karl darlow

So I’ll guess at mark gillespie


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Quoted from CodHead


Dan Langley?


Langley wouldn’t be a loan, he was released by Newcastle.
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I doubt it but, I’d love it to be Karl darlow

So I’ll guess at mark gillespie


Darlow was on loan at Hull last season, so I'm guessing he is back at Newcastle for the time being.

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Naylor confirmed by Chesterfield.. Very very good signing for that level. I would say that I would of liked him here but feel like we are OK with defensive midfielders.


Corrected for you.

Green & who else?
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I think monkeyboy’s post is in two parts. We’ll have two goalkeepers, that’s part one, and there’s a loan from a high-flying PL club who wear black and white, which can only be Newcastle.

The ‘keeper wouldn’t wear black and white stripes, would he…


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Lewis Miley?
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Lewis Miley?


A 17 year old midfielder in goal would certainly be a square peg in a round hole 😂😂🤔⚪️⚫️⚪️
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Maybe he means a team with a black and white keeper kit ? Either on loan at or his clubs .
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Gillespie is contracted still at Newcastle, so could be the loan
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Gillespie is contracted still at Newcastle, so could be the loan


experienced keepr, vying with the young local hopeful. Makes sense
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Yeah I don’t think we’ll be signing two goalkeepers on loan imo, so I think Monkey means we’ll be signing an outfielder on loan from Newcastle
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I think monkeyboy’s post is in two parts. We’ll have two goalkeepers, that’s part one, and there’s a loan from a high-flying PL club who wear black and white, which can only be Newcastle.

The ‘keeper wouldn’t wear black and white stripes, would he…


Correct, it wasn’t a reference to a keeper
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People seem to be raving about Harvey Rodger’s but his stats don’t suggest he’s played that much (aside from last season). Am I missing something??

I’d assume the Bennett Rumour will be quashed if he signs too…..
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People seem to be raving about Harvey Rodger’s but his stats don’t suggest he’s played that much (aside from last season). Am I missing something??

I’d assume the Bennett Rumour will be quashed if he signs too…..


108 appearances over the last 3 seasons, an average of 36 per season, all of which were starts.

Seems a strange observation.


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People seem to be raving about Harvey Rodger’s but his stats don’t suggest he’s played that much (aside from last season). Am I missing something??

I’d assume the Bennett Rumour will be quashed if he signs too…..


He's played a good amount of games in league 1 and was one of Accy's best players last season by all accounts .

Their fans seem pretty devestated he's leaving .

Stevenage fans were pretty upset Rose left .

Rochdale fans were similiar about Mularkey.

I don't know about you ,but i'm just pleased the shoe is now seemingly on the other foot for a change .
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Quoted from monkeyboy
We will have 2 keepers this season.

Looks like a loan from a high flying premier league club incoming. Very very highly rated .used to playing on black and white stripes too, although not for the first team.


Come on Monkey lets have a bit more on the loan player. Position?


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He's played a good amount of games in league 1 and was one of Accy's best players last season by all accounts .

Their fans seem pretty devestated he's leaving .

Stevenage fans were pretty upset Rose left .

Rochdale fans were similiar about Mularkey.

I don't know about you ,but i'm just pleased the shoe is now seemingly on the other foot for a change .


Seems a lifetime ago that Hartlepool and Chesterfield fans weee gloating that we were their feeder club.
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Seems a lifetime ago that Hartlepool and Chesterfield fans weee gloating that we were their feeder club.


And even Newport..


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Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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Who


Harvey        


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Harvey        


I hope admin is careful with how they announce it…
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I hope admin is careful with how they announce it…


If it’s Harvey Cartwright, you can use Jay Cartwright from inbetweeners. Or is that too obvious of who it is?
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I have it on good authority that James Tilley will be on his way back to Blundell Park in the near future.

He’s about to sign for Wimbledon.


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Wrexham heavily linked with nick Powell - would be a statement signing that
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If the statement is “we’ve got infinitely more money than anyone” then I think they’ve made that statement before.
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Wrexham heavily linked with nick Powell - would be a statement signing that


Personally I think it's the wrong sort of statement, no doubt they're climbing the leagues with talent a lot better than the level but look at the ages of the players they're signing, 75% of them are pushing 30. Literally 0 re-sell value on any of them. Much more impressed with the way Notts County are going about it, barring Mcgoldrick they've signed good young talent with good resale value.
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Personally I think it's the wrong sort of statement, no doubt they're climbing the leagues with talent a lot better for the level but look at the ages of the players they're signing, 75% of them are pushing 30. Literally 0 re-sell value on any of them. Much more impressed with the way Notts County are going about it, barring Mcgoldrick they've signed good young talent with good resale value.


Dangerous with the wage structure as well. If they start paying Championship salaries to bring in better players a few of the current ‘stars’ will want a payrise too.


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There should be instant relegation for stuff like this.


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There should be instant relegation for stuff like this.


JockStrap plummeting down the ITK league like an imploding submarine.


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Well that was the initial idea, any known bullshítters get banned for the remainder/duration of the next window. Sadly I don’t make the rules.
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Come on Monkey lets have a bit more on the loan player. Position?


It’s about all I know for the time being, pretty sure they playing it careful.

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Well that fell flat! I was up at the ground this morning and I was chatting to a staff member who said 'expect an announcement at 5 tonight'

If It means I am instantly bottom of the ITK League then I can only go up.

I can only apologise. And I would be happy to be called out by Karl Pilkington/Bullshit Man
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Well that was the initial idea, any known bullshítters get banned for the remainder/duration of the next window. Sadly I don’t make the rules.


One year, we will find out who does make the rules - and it bites will be after them.


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Chesterfield have signed Will Grigg to go with Tom Naylor
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Chesterfield have signed Will Grigg to go with Tom Naylor


At a glance a solid signing at that level but then Grigg only scored 5 in 42 last season. Not exactly as prolific as he was.


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At a glance a solid signing at that level but then Grigg only scored 5 in 42 last season. Not exactly as prolific as he was.


Very much not on fire and no defences terrified.


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Very much not on fire and no defences terrified.


Oh come on, on this basis they are a guarantee to win the NL.

Wrexham and Notts going up was a real leveller. Spireites to win the league is a gift with with the bookies. Who else will come close?
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Seeing mentions of Richard O’Donnell for us aswell. Him and Harvey Cartwright fighting for the #1 spot?
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Seeing mentions of Richard O’Donnell for us aswell. Him and Harvey Cartwright fighting for the #1 spot?


Saw that, an incredibly random shout but he'd be a very good experienced keeper - local to the area as well (Sheffield).  Would have two decent keepers fighting for the No1 spot if that was the case.


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Saw that, an incredibly random shout but he'd be a very good experienced keeper - local to the area as well (Sheffield).  Would have two decent keepers fighting for the No1 spot if that was the case.


Also saw that, noticed he is also a youth development gk coach.




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Wasn’t O’Donnell on loan with us some years back?
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Wasn’t O’Donnell on loan with us some years back?


Yes - 2010.


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Seeing mentions of Richard O’Donnell for us aswell. Him and Harvey Cartwright fighting for the #1 spot?


Really hope that's not true. Had some absolute mares for Rochdale last season.


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Really hope that's not true. Had some absolute mares for Rochdale last season.


10 seconds in, for example. O’Donnell did well for us as a youngster in the Conference, but at 34 I don’t think he represents an upgrade on what went before him. We can do better, and I suspect we will.



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Really hope that's not true. Had some absolute mares for Rochdale last season.


Funny, but the fans didn't think so.....https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2023/april/richardodonnell_pots_2023/
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I think whoever comes in with Cartwright will be back up. There's no way Hull are sending him here without guarantee of first team football. He's already had 2 loans to mens football with 0 game time, a third would be terrible for his development.
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To be fair to him, O’Donnell won Rochdale’s player of the year last season, in a poor side I know, but that suggests he isn’t all that bad.
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Would be a decent signing as #2 to Cartwright imo. A keeper who’s been playing regularly, and been busy, for the past few seasons but looking to transition to coaching/retiring - probably a better option than someone who’s spent the last few years on the bench & needs to start finding form or consistency. Liked him when he was here before and always thought he’s done well when we’ve played against him. Massive kick on him too. Kick. With a “K”.
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Really hope that's not true. Had some absolute mares for Rochdale last season.


Was their fans player of the season


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10 seconds in, for example. O’Donnell did well for us as a youngster in the Conference, but at 34 I don’t think he represents an upgrade on what went before him. We can do better, and I suspect we will.



Clangers happen to the best but looks like the pitch played a huge hand in that tbf. Remember Ederson being mms away from what would have been one of the mightiest howlers in history against Liverpool. 34 for a keeper is 30 for an outfielder so no issue with that
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Was their fans player of the season


In that Rochdale side that's the equivalent of being the tallest of the 7 dwarfs.


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O'Donnell has always impressed me, be it when on loan here or every time seeing him since.

I'm in agreement with skaface, exactly what we should look for as that No 2 to Cartwright (presuming he is coming in with a near guarantee as first choice).

Either way, as back up or as genuine competition, it works for me. He's someone who has seen it and done it at this level. Good experience but still a good age to compete/put pressure on.
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Also, should be noted that keepers tend to look worse playing behind a weak defence and Rochdale had the third worst defence in League Two last season.

I'd be happy to sign an experienced and competent keeper such as O'Donnell with Cartwright pushing him for a place in the team.
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Being realistic I don’t think you could get much better than O’Donnell to act as a number 2 and competition for Cartwright. As others have said he’s got loads of experience at this level, and he’s still a decent keeper. You could go and find clips of mistakes from any goalkeeper.
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Is there any clips of him in goal against us?  I''ll have a look in a min, as I'm always intrigued as to how they have faired against us.




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(goal 1m 40) 1-0 W

. @away (goal 1m 51) 1-0 W

Only a couple a clips did well not sure he could have done much against the goals we scored.

Apologies if already posted.




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Even if he was poor for Rochdale, so was Terry Taylor for us in that god awful team, and now he's being linked with Championship teams....
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I suppose you also need to have the right sort of character as the experienced keeper in this sort of a situation. Someone who, if not nurturing of the youngster, is willing to help him develop rather than seeing him as nothing more than an out and out competitor.

There was recently a Les Sealey memoir published based on some tape recordings he'd made before he died and it was interesting to hear that Schmeichel was an absolute male private and everybody in the dressing room hated him! Even Ferguson kept backing down after promising Sealey he would play, because Schmeichel would lose his excrement if he was dropped, even from 'lesser' games.
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I’d rather have Cartwright as number 1. A young keeper with an impressive pedigree who needs a chance to establish himself as number one. Something to prove. Hungry. Ambitious. Open to further learning and coaching.


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In that Rochdale side that's the equivalent of being the tallest of the 7 dwarfs.

I actually don't think either of the relegated sides last season were anywhere near the worst teams of recent years to go down from L2 (including two Town teams in that). We were incredibly lucky to leave Spotland with 3 points and both teams would have cancelled each other out at BP if it wasn't for a lovely George Lloyd finish.  Dale and Hartlepool both unfortunate last season that there weren't any basketcase clubs to save them. I'd go as far as saying worse teams have stayed up in other seasons.
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I’d rather have Cartwright as number 1. A young keeper with an impressive pedigree who needs a chance to establish himself as number one. Something to prove. Hungry. Ambitious. Open to further learning and coaching.


I get it but he's not our player to develop. I'd rather have whoever was deemed the more likely to keep the ball out the net. Not what the player or Hull would want though of course if Cartwright was #2
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I suppose you also need to have the right sort of character as the experienced keeper in this sort of a situation. Someone who, if not nurturing of the youngster, is willing to help him develop rather than seeing him as nothing more than an out and out competitor.

There was recently a Les Sealey memoir published based on some tape recordings he'd made before he died and it was interesting to hear that Schmeichel was an absolute male private and everybody in the dressing room hated him! Even Ferguson kept backing down after promising Sealey he would play, because Schmeichel would lose his excrement if he was dropped, even from 'lesser' games.


Exactly. McKeown was a good #1, awful #2. Terrible attitude, sulking, transfer requests. Don’t need it, especially when you’ve a prospect like Henderson or potentially Cartwright who’ll need backing, rather than someone hoping he makes a mistake so he can get back in the starting line up.
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Just asking if there has been an announcement about Cartwright joining us online, I haven't seen one yet, far as I remember.  Also, I don't think Hull would allow him to come here and sit on the bench for the whole season, which he has done on his last two loans,
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That O'Donnell clanger against Tranmere reminds me of the clanger that Max Crocombe dropped for Tranmere's goal last season at Blundell Park! As someone else said, these things happen from time to time and every keeper, even the very best, has the occasional horror moment. It's the general level of performance that's important, not the rare mistake. I doubt any of us would want to be judged on our worst moments!
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Just asking if there has been an announcement about Cartwright joining us online, I haven't seen one yet, far as I remember.  Also, I don't think Hull would allow him to come here and sit on the bench for the whole season, which he has done on his last two loans,



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If the club bring two Goalkeepers in the caveat will be that those keepers will compete to be number 1. That's healthy competition. If Cartwright becomes second choice he will develop through being in that position, probably get some cup games and the very fact he is fighting to be first choice rather than third or fourth choice at Hull will do more for him than you would think
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In that Rochdale side that's the equivalent of being the tallest of the 7 dwarfs.


That is such a lazy and inaccurate thing to say…


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That is such a lazy and inaccurate thing to say…


'Lazy' and 'Innacurate' were my two favourite dwarves.
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I’m hearing from a source at the club that we have offered a contract to Luke Matheson and he’s been to look round the club. He’s had offers from two other clubs but we’ll know next week if he’s signing for us or not.
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Harvey Rodgers now being reported by Matt Dean, so you’d have to imagine that’s done. Great signing IMO
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I’m hearing from a source at the club that we have offered a contract to Luke Matheson and he’s been to look round the club. He’s had offers from two other clubs but we’ll know next week if he’s signing for us or not.


A goal when he was 15/16 at Old Trafford shot him into the spotlight, got a huge move and by all accounts has been pretty poor since, would be a risky one and I don’t really see the need for another wide defender.

Be very surprised if that’s true.
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'Lazy' and 'Innacurate' were my two favourite dwarves.


😂

They were good those two, but I preferred Recalcitrant and Cantankerous  🧙‍♀️


"You should do what you love while you can"
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I’m hearing from a source at the club that we have offered a contract to Luke Matheson and he’s been to look round the club. He’s had offers from two other clubs but we’ll know next week if he’s signing for us or not.


Remember him scoring for Rochdale against Man Utd a few years ago in the Carabao Cup, then had to go to school the following morning.

Billed as an impressive young full back at the time, bags of pace, ended up joining Wolves and then not heard much from him since. Aware he's been on a few loans since.


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The lad should have never left Rochdale he was in there team at 15 or 16, he could a good addition to challenge Efete at rb.
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Scunthorpe fans said he looked like he won a competition and extremely out his depth with them, not so sure on that one.
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Scunthorpe fans said he looked like he won a competition and extremely out his depth with them, not so sure on that one.


He is a free agent, so I would imagine Town will do their due diligence, maybe even offer him a trial if there are any questions to be answered.



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😂

They were good those two, but I preferred Recalcitrant and Cantankerous  🧙‍♀️


Got sent down for feeling Happy.


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Must admit I am half expecting an incoming to be announced today and then perhaps another on Monday just to add that little bit of extra excitement and incentive for renewal of season tickets before early bird finishes.
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Scunthorpe fans said he looked like he won a competition and extremely out his depth with them, not so sure on that one.


They also think they're getting a new stadium so let's not give their opinion  too much weight
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Scunthorpe fans said he looked like he won a competition and extremely out his depth with them, not so sure on that one.


They told us that we'd signed a player who was lazy.


Miss Scunthorpe. Not a beauty pageant, just sound advice.
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More signings before page 200 ???

Please ??
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Hurst usually knows what he's doing when it comes to full-backs, so I'd trust him if there is any truth in this report.

Might be a player who would fail to develop in U-21 football as he's not good enough for that standard, but could perhaps be coached into being a decent lower-division defender.

Scunny were an absolute basket case when he was with them (I remember listening to Keith Hill's post-match comments at the time which were detached from reality) and he was only 19 at the time, so I wouldn't take that as any indicator of ultimate ability.
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Chesterfield after Waterfall ….


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Chesterfield after Waterfall ….


Would make sense if we trying to improve and bringing in Rodgers.
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Chesterfield after Waterfall ….


Would make sense.

Has form for being in sides promoted from the National League, and he looks like he may not be an automatic choice here like he has been for a couple of seasons.
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I like Luke and would definitely want him around. He won't let us down and will do a job if needed but I do just wonder if we are wanting to kick on, do we need a bit more than that? I did suspect we might see him filling more of a similar role in the team that Pearson has the last few years. Not first choice but you'd have no hesitation with him filling in or coming on to hold on to a lead.

As I say, I like him and it's no reflection on him. He's a leader and the turnaround in him since Holloway is immense - that itself maybe harsh to judge him against as Holloway had him trying to play football - not his game. He's strong, dominant in the air and is a key influence around the place, if we are pushing on though his speed and lack of ball playing ability maybe the issue.

For as good as he's been for us, I'm not sure he'd be a top 7 CB in this league? If he isn't going to feature much and wants to move it'll be a shame but he would go with no hard feelings and a big amount of gratitude for the roll he's played in the last 2 years!


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It's a strange one because Waterfall has undoubtedly been our best CB as of late. But it's just a matter of time before he can't keep up with the ambition we will have moving forward. If he does go it's imperative that we replace him with a similar type of presence and leadership qualities because we do sometimes miss him when he's out the team.




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It would be a great move for everyone and i think it's his hometown club . Love Waterfall but in reality he's at the back end of his career as a league player .
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Hope we get a few quid for him though
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He was quality last season and the season before.  
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And we've hit 200 pages. I wonder how many that started with us on page 1 have fallen by the way side!  


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were has the rumour /info come from?
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He's a great servant and I would no way be against him sticking around

But in reality if a club offers him 2 or 3 years he should take it because at the end of this season I doubt he would be offered a long deal ,it would be year on year at best .

It might just be a rumour though , a few Chesterfield  fans are saying Hurst has told him to find a new club .

That would be even more ruthless than Hurst  putting Crocombe out to pasture .
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Chesterfield were supposedly after waterfall last summer as well. I wonder if it is the same rumour doing the rounds again.

Chesterfield have 4 centre backs already non of them blessed with pace according to their fans. Luke is a top player but not sure pace is his strength so wouldn’t seem to make a huge amount of sense
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He's a great servant and I would no way be against him sticking around

But in reality if a club offers him 2 or 3 years he should take it because at the end of this season I doubt he would be offered a long deal ,it would be year on year at best .

It might just be a rumour though , a few Chesterfield  fans are saying Hurst has told him to find a new club .

That would be even more ruthless than Hurst  putting Crocombe out to pasture .


I’m a big fan of Waterfall but, if the replacement makes us better, then let him go as it wouldn’t be right to have him sat on the bench. He’s decent at L2 level but very, very good at National League level.
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If you told me we were signing Rodgers & Bennett in order to let Waterfall go to Chesterfield I’d bite your hand off.

Fantastic servant and made a huge impact but I’d say that would represent a step forward.

Signing at 5 apparently, looks like Rodgers
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A spoof Football Insider tweet, very clever and suggests Harvey Rodgers then?

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And we've hit 200 pages. I wonder how many that started with us on page 1 have fallen by the way side!  


Am still here
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It would be a great move for everyone and i think it's his hometown club . Love Waterfall but in reality he's at the back end of his career as a league player .


He was born in Sheffield so not too far away!



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Have to say, I thought it'd be an impossible job to replace Sam and the job he did was unbelievable. I think we've gone up a level in terms of creativity on social media, I do however think it's going to be nigh on impossible to replace Liam.
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Have to say, I thought it'd be an impossible job to replace Sam and the job he did was unbelievable. I think we've gone up a level in terms of creativity on social media, I do however think it's going to be nigh on impossible to replace Liam.


If you've seen the job ad for Liam's replacement and looked at the important part, the salary, you'll see why Liam's disappeared.

Well underpaid for his expertise.


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Have to say, I thought it'd be an impossible job to replace Sam and the job he did was unbelievable. I think we've gone up a level in terms of creativity on social media, I do however think it's going to be nigh on impossible to replace Liam.


Personally think both are very hard to replace...


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Have to say, I thought it'd be an impossible job to replace Sam and the job he did was unbelievable. I think we've gone up a level in terms of creativity on social media, I do however think it's going to be nigh on impossible to replace Liam.


Certainly trimmed the ITK posts on here though
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Certainly trimmed the ITK posts on here though


Oh I don’t know. Think it’s more or less the same isn’t it? Noticed a huge change when the ownership changed and a few of the office staff left soon after…


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Quoted from Mikey_345


Personally think both are very hard to replace...


Nah the new admin is great (and also underpaid)


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Oh I don’t know. Think it’s more or less the same isn’t it? Noticed a huge change when the ownership changed and a few of the office staff left soon after…


Think Joe has done a very good job so far in replacing Sam, think it makes his job a lot easier he's not having to prepare statements at midnight after a few glasss of red from a certain somebody, however I think he's a very creative and well spoken guy and fits the role perfectly.
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Bryn Morris signed for Newport
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Hard to look negatively on any of the signings so far, we’re building a very good squad.
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So, 2 goalies still needed, and maybe another strong midfielder  - loan from above, perhaps ?

Another 3 year deal to entice a new player in !

What a huge change in outlook from 2 seasons ago.

Great backing for the manager !

Is it kick off time yet ??
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Such a contrast of a transfer window this.
Where are the players 33+ using us a last pay packet on 1 year deals....

Fantastic signing and the best so far on paper
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This is the best signing so far and i think he will one day be our captain..
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I can't see Bennett signing following this new arrival. That is, unless the rumours about Waterfall being wanted by Chesterfield mean something is underway in that direction.

I wonder where Smith will end up this coming season?
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Think Joe has done a very good job so far in replacing Sam, think it makes his job a lot easier he's not having to prepare statements at midnight after a few glasss of red from a certain somebody, however I think he's a very creative and well spoken guy and fits the role perfectly.


Wasn’t criticising the new guy in the slightest, just to clarify.


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This is pretty good so far isn’t it. Seems like we’re going after the players we want and getting them.

3 year deals, all players at the right age - definitely building something. Wonder if at some point in Jan we decided to give up and concentrate and prepare for the summer - hence the loanees?


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According to the chesterfield forum Luke has been told he's free to find another club as his game time will be limited.
Could be tosh of course
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Harvey is another white rabbit from Hursty's magic top hat !!

3 year deal means that Hurst will have done his work behind the scenes !

Hoping for a VERY frugal goals against score for this season now !
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I wonder where Smith will end up this coming season?
Unfortunately Lincoln, season long loan.

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Quoted from buckstown
According to the chesterfield forum Luke has been told he's free to find another club as his game time will be limited.
Could be tosh of course


He was told that 2 years ago of course, chose to stay and fight for his place, forced his way back in and couldn't be dislodged.
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Strikers: Rose/Orsi

Wingers/Forwards: Wilson/Vernam/Khan/Eisa

Midfielders: Clifton/Holohan/Green/Khouri/Hunt

Left-backs: Glennon/Amos

Right-backs: Efete

Centre-backs: Maher/Waterfall/Mullarkey/Rodgers

Goalkeepers


I'm pretty pleased with how we are shaping up. Fully appreciate some players can play elsewhere, but these are where I assume they will play most of the time.

If we can get 2x GK, 1x RB, 1x St and 1x CM then this season will be a very interesting one.

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Quoted from Nutsy
Strikers: Rose

Wingers/Forwards: Wilson/Vernam/Khan/Eisa

Midfielders: Clifton/Holohan/Green/Khouri/Hunt

Left-backs: Glennon/Amos

Right-backs: Efete

Centre-backs: Maher/Waterfall/Mullarkey/Rodgers

Goalkeepers


I'm pretty pleased with how we are shaping up. Fully appreciate some players can play elsewhere, but these are where I assume they will play most of the time.

If we can get 2x GK, 1x RB, 1x St and 1x CM then this season will be a very interesting one.

UTM.


you missed Orsi from the strikers
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Tweet 1671231509708062746 will appear here...


Being slightly pedantic, this says he is POISED to move, and not that he has signed for us, furthermore, it wasn't posted by GTFC.  Just saying.........

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You’d imagine 2 x Goalkeepers, 1 x CM & 1 striker will see us just about done. Maybe 1-2 extra loan signings for squad depth.
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Funnily enough I was on the phone to a Vodafone salesman the other day who was a chesterfield fan and got talked about football after I declined his broadband deal . He said he works at the club and had heard rumours they were in talks with waterfall. I said I doubted he’d go this year but maybe he will!!


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Being slightly pedantic, this says he is POISED to move, and not that he has signed for us, furthermore, it wasn't posted by GTFC.  Just saying.........



I lift share with a lad who’s good mates with him and he says he’s signing. Is that good enough?
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I lift share with a lad who’s good mates with him and he says he’s signing. Is that good enough?


Not till I see it posted by GTFC.

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Hurst values experience and leadership in the dressing room.

With Pearson, Taylor and (to a lesser extent, owing to a hybrid type role) Coke out of the dressing room, I can't see him letting Waterfall go unless he's got some serious experience and leadership lined up to replace him with...

Thought at the end of last season Waterfall was the one who was at risk of falling out of Hurst's plans. It's all part of the ruthless progression. Loved what Luke has given us, even more so for his transformation post-Holloway.   But sentiment shouldn't trump improvement.

If true, he leaves with a special place in all our memories for many reasons, but nothing more so than this... Not the goal. Oh, definitely not! It's the brazen in-your-face intercourse off to Paul Killin in the celebration.

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Well that fell flat! I was up at the ground this morning and I was chatting to a staff member who said 'expect an announcement at 5 tonight'

If It means I am instantly bottom of the ITK League then I can only go up.

I can only apologise. And I would be happy to be called out by Karl Pilkington/Bullshit Man


So I was one day out. The announcement 'could' have been planned for yesterday, but got delayed. Who knows!
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So I was one day out. The announcement 'could' have been planned for yesterday, but got delayed. Who knows!


Day late and a dollar short.

Rules are rules.
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Day late and a dollar short.

Rules are rules.


Accepted. Ill go give a swift kick to the nads to the staff member with whom I was talking.
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Chesterfield seem to think they might be in for Waterfall. Also suggestions that we’ve offered Dallas a deal but he’s turned it down. Surprised if Dallas piece is true as I thought that rumour was dead and buried.
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I can believe Waterfall might go. He's been great for two years but he now only has one year left. I think Hurst wants to improve our ability on the ball across the back line to play out more effectively. Chesterfield offering him a two year deal and us a small fee might be a great outcome for everyone including Luke Waterfall.
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Doubt it’s true but Dallas can intercourse off. Poor man’s Danny Rose anyway.
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Definitely, he’s turned us down twice, by all accounts. Can’t believe there’s any truth in the rumour.
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Unfortunately Lincoln, season long loan.



Makes complete sense too - a division higher for 3 consecutive seasons. I’d like him back but us not going up made that difficult to justify. They obviously want to persevere with him rather than selling him.
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Unfortunately Lincoln, season long loan.



I thought he’d end up with Barnsley or even Carlisle. So no surprise he’s decided to stay within a commutable distance.

He was a brilliant acquisition for us. Form seemed to dip a couple of times but he would always come back fighting.


Rose is on fire

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why would luke waterfall leave & can we do better in lge 2 asking for a friend sat next to me
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Sitting, not sat. Unless you put him there.

Can’t see why the club captain would drop down to the bent spires, unless they offer him stupid money.


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We are 100% not in for Dallas
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Can’t remember when we last had such a promising transfer window. We are going to be considerably stronger than last season.
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why would luke waterfall leave & can we do better in lge 2 asking for a friend sat next to me


Because the guy's a warrior and a leader and (as such) would rather be a first name on the teamsheet than a potential bench-warmer.

He was my player of the season last year, but time moves on. My respect for him is just about off the scale.
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Can’t remember when we last had such a promising transfer window. We are going to be considerably stronger than last season.


The pages per signing ratio of this thread has plummeted - it could end up one of the lowest ever.
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Quoted from chaos33
Sitting, not sat. Unless you put him there.

Can’t see why the club captain would drop down to the bent spires, unless they offer him stupid money.


They offer him a two year contract - that's one more year guaranteed income than he currently has. He's from Sheffield. No idea if his family still live there but if they do and he has a young family then he's now 20 minutes away from the 'office'. Be pretty compelling for me and I'm not convinced lower league footballers are that far removed from us. Certainly closer than they are to Declan Rice or Bernardo Silva.
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Quoted from Limerick Mariner


The pages per signing ratio of this thread has plummeted - it could end up one of the lowest ever.


It’s about quality, not quantity, and so far the signings have been quality and that’s much more important

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Very positive so far.

Interesting how we seem to be making the location problem more of an advantage with some of the deals.

Things definitely going in the right direction, the cup money has been a bonus to help things along.

Looking forward to those first 4 games for sure.
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We will make the play offs at least even without a goalkeeper.  


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I think Luke’s influence is as big off the field as it is on it, he’s a very old school sort of guy who demands 110% from everyone no matter what scenario. Strikes me as a Roy Keane type of character that winning is everything, stands for nothing in the dressing room and he plays to win and he’ll give everything to do it. Would leave only Gav as an established senior figure within the squad so to speak.
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Quoted from LocalLadGTFC
I think Luke’s influence is as big off the field as it is on it, he’s a very old school sort of guy who demands 110% from everyone no matter what scenario. Strikes me as a Roy Keane type of character that winning is everything, stands for nothing in the dressing room and he plays to win and he’ll give everything to do it. Would leave only Gav as an established senior figure within the squad so to speak.


Maher strikes me as a leader. So does Green. Clifton's young but he has leadership qualities. Danny Rose has bags of experience. Luke Waterfall has been a huge leader but we're not dependent on one man like we might have been in the past.
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Chesterfield seem to think they might be in for Waterfall. Also suggestions that we’ve offered Dallas a deal but he’s turned it down. Surprised if Dallas piece is true as I thought that rumour was dead and buried.


He hasn't turned anything down.

We are still in for him along side Alex pattison.

Both are highly thought of so competition is a problem, but its likely one or the other and definitely not both.

Exeter want Dallas, not sure on the others but they enquired back in January.



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He hasn't turned anything down.

We are still in for him along side Alex pattison.

Both are highly thought of so competition is a problem, but its likely one or the other and definitely not both.

Exeter want Dallas, not sure on the others but they enquired back in January.



Can’t see Bradford selling Alex Pattison having only signed him 3 days ago.


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Can’t see Bradford selling Alex Pattison having only signed him 3 days ago.


Always the doubting Thomas.
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He hasn't turned anything down.

We are still in for him along side Alex pattison.

Both are highly thought of so competition is a problem, but its likely one or the other and definitely not both.

Exeter want Dallas, not sure on the others but they enquired back in January.



Alex Pattison signed for Bradford 2 days ago.

Instant relegation.
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Waterfall has been great for us and I will be happy if he stays or goes.

If he can get a longer contract with more money we should be happy for him.

It would not surprise me if town let him go on a free so he can get a better contract with Chesterfield.

Thanks Luke for your service and leadership do what is best for you.


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Alex Pattison signed for Bradford 2 days ago.

Instant relegation.


That easily researchable fact aside, the notion that, quote, “its likely one or the other and definitely not both” when we’re talking about two very different players who play two entirely different positions, whilst clearly designed to sound informed, makes no actual sense once basic logic and reason are applied.

If Dallas signs, me, naked, sausage, Pontoon, yada yada, you know the drill…


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The ghost of Bobby Ewing is more likely to sign than Dallas.

See what I did there? Lol @ me etc
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If Waterfall does leave only three of the sixteen who lined up in the play off final last June will remain at the club.
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Quoted from Poojah


That easily researchable fact aside, the notion that, quote, “its likely one or the other and definitely not both” when we’re talking about two very different players who play two entirely different positions, whilst clearly designed to sound informed, makes no actual sense once basic logic and reason are applied.

If Dallas signs, me, naked, sausage, Pontoon, yada yada, you know the drill…


The amount of times you’ve offered this it’s almost like you’re relishing the idea!
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If Waterfall does leave only three of the sixteen who lined up in the play off final last June will remain at the club.


They'll be remembered forever for that playoff campaign and what they achieved. They finished 6th in the conference though and if we want League One football then we'll need to keep evolving and improving.
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The amount of times you’ve offered this it’s almost like you’re relishing the idea!


Bring the mustard.


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Bring the mustard.


Saucy bugg3r


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Always seems to be a lot of animosity towards Dallas because he chose not to come here, but that's exactly what happened with Mullarkey who turned us down in January only to happily come to us now. No doubt there's probably been many others like it too.


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Just wondering what everyone thinks about us not having signed any Centre Midfielders in this Transfer Window yet?  We have made improvements in the forwards and defenders and added wingers to the squad, so should we expect to see some centre mid signings soon, or do we think PH is happy with the ones we have from last season?
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Just wondering what everyone thinks about us not having signed any Centre Midfielders in this Transfer Window yet?  We have made improvements in the forwards and defenders and added wingers to the squad, so should we expect to see some centre mid signings soon, or do we think PH is happy with the ones we have from last season?


Clifton more central, maybe?

Green is the yard dog, Khouri is the possible magic dust, Holohan the experience. It’s a decent base to start with. I think we all expect maybe another addition though.
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…and I forgot Hunt too. The kid can pick a pass and then some.

We do have some good options, I think.
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Always seems to be a lot of animosity towards Dallas because he chose not to come here, but that's exactly what happened with Mullarkey who turned us down in January only to happily come to us now. No doubt there's probably been many others like it too.


Dallas repeatedly turned us down in multiple transfer windows, preferring to remain in non-league showing his lack of ambition. Mullarkey turned us down once by signing for a club in the same league as us that was a few miles up the road from the club he was previously at, and a similar distance away from his hometown. Not comparable situations imo, Dallas is a loser.


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Clifton more central, maybe?

Green is the yard dog, Khouri is the possible magic dust, Holohan the experience. It’s a decent base to start with. I think we all expect maybe another addition though.


i think we need better than Green if we are looking to progress personally.
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Dallas repeatedly turned us down in multiple transfer windows, preferring to remain in non-league showing his lack of ambition. Mullarkey turned us down once by signing for a club in the same league as us that was a few miles up the road from the club he was previously at, and a similar distance away from his hometown. Not comparable situations imo, Dallas is a loser.


  I just hope PH doesn't approach him again EVER!
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Just wondering what everyone thinks about us not having signed any Centre Midfielders in this Transfer Window yet?  We have made improvements in the forwards and defenders and added wingers to the squad, so should we expect to see some centre mid signings soon, or do we think PH is happy with the ones we have from last season?


You’d imagine we only really need one.

Although I do think we’ll line up with 3 in the middle this season, I think had McAtee not been here last season our formation would’ve been different, it felt like we shoehorned him in at points.
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Going back to O'Donnell - weren't we advertising for an Academy g.k. coach a few weeks ago?
And O'Donnell is a youth development coach...........
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Dallas repeatedly turned us down in multiple transfer windows, preferring to remain in non-league showing his lack of ambition. Mullarkey turned us down once by signing for a club in the same league as us that was a few miles up the road from the club he was previously at, and a similar distance away from his hometown. Not comparable situations imo, Dallas is a loser.


Supposition and non-facts built on the emotions of a jilted lover. Both players have most probably turned us down once each and Dallas has yet to sign for anyone. Who knows what any player's motivations are?

Would love him to sign for us now if only to see the conflicted and confused reactions on here..
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I saw Dallas in the play off final against Notts and he was ok, but not sure he adds more quality. If he signs for z league team it’ll be interesting to see if he makes the step up
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A league team, not the z league!!
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Quoted from pontoonlew


You’d imagine we only really need one.

Although I do think we’ll line up with 3 in the middle this season, I think had McAtee not been here last season our formation would’ve been different, it felt like we shoehorned him in at points.


Could be two. We're still short of a number ten and I can't see us going in with the same personnel as last season without freshening it up..
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Dallas repeatedly turned us down in multiple transfer windows, preferring to remain in non-league showing his lack of ambition. Mullarkey turned us down once by signing for a club in the same league as us that was a few miles up the road from the club he was previously at, and a similar distance away from his hometown. Not comparable situations imo, Dallas is a loser.


I agree with this. It reminds me of all those mercenaries that have gone off to play in China and the Middle East leagues. Motivated by playing for money, not the love of the game.

Though, in Dallas’ case, he appears to think a massive club is gonna come in or a team from the championship/league 1. There’s no doubting that there is a good player there but, if am honest, it wouldn’t surprise me if he ended up at forest green


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I feel we’re reasonably well stocked in the ~5ft 10” forward range, and if we’re pushing the boat out for a front man I’m not sure that man should be Andrew Dallas at this stage.

If there’s a single position on the pitch I have any nervousness about us filling it’s that traditional number 9 role; someone comfortably bigger than 6ft with physicality, aerial presence and the ability to act as a focal point of sorts. That’s the one slot Hursty’s struggled ever so slightly to fill in the past couple of seasons, with Ryan Taylor really getting close to fitting that bill.

I think part of the struggle we’ve had is that there appears to be a dearth of players of that description kicking about. I’m pleased as punch with our business so far; as someone said the other day it’s been our most exciting start to a summer since the Podge & Bogle window of 2015, but I’d be positively buzzing if we can find a big man with strength, power, quality and goal threat.


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If there’s a single position on the pitch I have any nervousness about us filling it’s that traditional number 9 role; someone comfortably bigger than 6ft with physicality, aerial presence and the ability to act as a focal point of sorts. That’s the one slot Hursty’s struggled ever so slightly to fill in the past couple of seasons, with Ryan Taylor really getting close to fitting that bill.


I wonder if a cheeky loan for tshimanga could be on the cards if he doesn’t get any game time at Peterborough or revisiting the apparent umerah link from Hartlepools


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I wonder if a cheeky loan for tshimanga could be on the cards if he doesn’t get any game time at Peterborough or revisiting the apparent umerah link from Hartlepools


I think it’s likely Tshimanga will end up out on loan somewhere; most likely League Two in the hope that he can recapture some form and make the prospect of Posh getting a decent fee for him at some point a little more likely. Would that be here? It feels unlikely, but I recall there was some talk at the time he signed for Chesterfield that we were close to signing him - no idea whether there’s any truth in that whatsoever.

I’d have Umerah here assuming there’s a sensible release clause, but again I’d imagine there would be others in front of us in the queue in that case.

I expect both players to be at League Two clubs come August, though.


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I feel we’re reasonably well stocked in the ~5ft 10” forward range, and if we’re pushing the boat out for a front man I’m not sure that man should be Andrew Dallas at this stage.

If there’s a single position on the pitch I have any nervousness about us filling it’s that traditional number 9 role; someone comfortably bigger than 6ft with physicality, aerial presence and the ability to act as a focal point of sorts. That’s the one slot Hursty’s struggled ever so slightly to fill in the past couple of seasons, with Ryan Taylor really getting close to fitting that bill.

I think part of the struggle we’ve had is that there appears to be a dearth of players of that description kicking about. I’m pleased as punch with our business so far; as someone said the other day it’s been our most exciting start to a summer since the Podge & Bogle window of 2015, but I’d be positively buzzing if we can find a big man with strength, power, quality and goal threat.


I agree with this, with the exception of Green we're a team of midgets (compared to most teams in this division) in both midfield and attack.

https://www.worldfootball.net/players_list/eng-league-two-2023-2024/nach-groesse/1/
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I agree with this, with the exception of Green we're a team of midgets (compared to most teams in this division) in both midfield and attack.

https://www.worldfootball.net/players_list/eng-league-two-2023-2024/nach-groesse/1/


Not much height on the bench either



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Clifton more central, maybe?

Green is the yard dog, Khouri is the possible magic dust, Holohan the experience. It’s a decent base to start with. I think we all expect maybe another addition though.


Clifton and Green for sure, but think we can do better than Holohan who's passing was inconsistent last season, Hunt is still contracted I believe, but also was inconsistent last season.  We have improved in all other areas of the squad, I just feel we can, and should improve here too.

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You’d imagine we only really need one.

Although I do think we’ll line up with 3 in the middle this season, I think had McAtee not been here last season our formation would’ve been different, it felt like we shoehorned him in at points.



I'm not so sure we will line up with 3 CM's now that we have signed wingers and utility players who are able to play in both FB spots.


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Just wondering what everyone thinks about us not having signed any Centre Midfielders in this Transfer Window yet?  We have made improvements in the forwards and defenders and added wingers to the squad, so should we expect to see some centre mid signings soon, or do we think PH is happy with the ones we have from last season?


The goal tally from midfield last season was pretty damn good to be fair. Id love to see where we stand in a table of goals from midfielders. We must be somewhere up near the top.
Do we really need any more midfielders for the spine of the team? Maybe one or two bench warmers to replace those whose contacts weren't renewed. Unless we can get an absolute dynamo from somewhere, I think the 1st team midfielders are OK
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.....but think we can do better than Holohan who's passing was inconsistent last season


Its a double edged sword really. Was he inconsistent because of his standard of football at this level, or was he inconsistent because of the lack of movement and chances to make an easy pass because the other players werent giving him those easy options?

New players....new options.

This season he may step up to the plate
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Its a double edged sword really. Was he inconsistent because of his standard of football at this level, or was he inconsistent because of the lack of movement and chances to make an easy pass because the other players werent giving him those easy options?

New players....new options.

This season he may step up to the plate


I really hope he does as he appears to have the right attitude and drive required by PH.

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Clifton and Green for sure, but think we can do better than Holohan who's passing was inconsistent last season, Hunt is still contracted I believe, but also was inconsistent last season.  We have improved in all other areas of the squad, I just feel we can, and should improve here too.



I think hunt will come good, but I also have the same concerns as you about Holohan.
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I think hunt will come good, but I also have the same concerns as you about Holohan.


Ditto. I've always had that issue with Holohan (the play off final was a prime example of his passing ability almost costing us).
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Its a double edged sword really. Was he inconsistent because of his standard of football at this level, or was he inconsistent because of the lack of movement and chances to make an easy pass because the other players werent giving him those easy options?

New players....new options.

This season he may step up to the plate


Gav owes us nowt. He’s been a stalwart and the last season and a bit has been way ahead the rest of his career in terms of achievement with goals in play-offs and cup-run. When he looks back his time with GTFC will be what he tells his grandkids about.

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I believe we will play a midfield 3, with Hunt and Clifton being two of those three consistently. With the types of forward we signed Clifton's ball carrying and harrying, combined with Hunt's passing will be ideal. A defensive shield/experienced head to go next to them would be ideal, but playing the most inform of Holohan or Green would suffice for now.

On Umerah, would he have played for Wealdstone with Efete, if so this connection could help.

If we signed a CM in the mould of Smallwood, and Umerah then this would be the most successful window (on paper) we have had in years.

Obviously GK and RB too, but GK are expected to be Cartwright and O'Donnell.
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I wouldent bother with Dallas . He is at his level and probably knows that. Weather that shows ambition or not is not the point .
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I believe we will play a midfield 3, with Hunt and Clifton being two of those three consistently. With the types of forward we signed Clifton's ball carrying and harrying, combined with Hunt's passing will be ideal. A defensive shield/experienced head to go next to them would be ideal, but playing the most inform of Holohan or Green would suffice for now.

On Umerah, would he have played for Wealdstone with Efete, if so this connection could help.

If we signed a CM in the mould of Smallwood, and Umerah then this would be the most successful window (on paper) we have had in years.

Obviously GK and RB too, but GK are expected to be Cartwright and O'Donnell.


So would you play 3 in midfield with 2 wingers?

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I'd like to see a 433 / 4231
Hunt more defensive with a stronger player by his side with clifton infront of them. Pace out wide either side
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Ditto. I've always had that issue with Holohan (the play off final was a prime example of his passing ability almost costing us).


You did watch the play offs? Remember a last minute goal at County?

People have some funny views on football. He's really decent at this level, strong, intelligent, committed and he scores goals. 9 in 51 games last season. Scores key goals in big games.
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Given that we expect Cartwright and O'Donnell to be the keepers that arrive here and Monkeyboys exceptional track record this window. I think if we put 2&2 together we're either taking a midfielder or forward from Newcastle on loan
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If we’re going to be relying on Hunt in the way some people are suggesting on here then we’re going to find ourselves at the wrong end of the table. Hasn’t shown enough for me to warrant us building the team around him. Other than the first two months back in the National League I don’t really see the hype.


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You're not the only one to not get the Hunt hype, i think we need two dominant central midfielders, wouldn't be surprised if he's not here come the end of the season.
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You did watch the play offs? Remember a last minute goal at County?

People have some funny views on football. He's really decent at this level, strong, intelligent, committed and he scores goals. 9 in 51 games last season. Scores key goals in big games.


How many of those were Pens?

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If we’re going to be relying on Hunt in the way some people are suggesting on here then we’re going to find ourselves at the wrong end of the table. Hasn’t shown enough for me to warrant us building the team around him. Other than the first two months back in the National League I don’t really see the hype.


I can understand why you think like that, but Hurst paid a fee for him and handed out a 3-year contract - so the boss obviously
rates him. PH also 'defended' him a bit by pointing out that other players weren't thinking at his level, so clearly Hurst thinks there's
more to come from Hunt.

Judging the player on his performance last season is a tad unfair: we were battling in the bottom half of the table most of the time, and
our forward line was often too static. I think we'll be able to evaluate Hunt more fairly this season. If he can ping passes for our pacier
signings to run onto we could be onto a winner. Plus Hunt has another year's experience under his belt, he's still young.

How Hunt shapes up is one of the most interesting features of next season for me. I'm inclined to trust El General's opinion.
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How many of those were Pens?



3


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How many of those were Pens?



I’m on the fence with Holohan myself but the squad were poor with pens generally last season. Holohan wasn’t though so to discount them off seems a bit unfair.
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I'm not discounting them, just wanted to know.
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As much as I appreciate some of what Holohan has achieved with us and his contribution, my personal opinion is we need better. Can’t doubt his work rate and his ability to chip in with a goal or two, however there were too many times last season where he gave the ball away in dangerous areas that either cost a goal or nearly cost us a goal.

I know we are league 2 and you don’t get complete midfielders at this level, but I think we need a CM who has more physicality and who is a bit better with his decision making in key areas.


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As much as I appreciate some of what Holohan has achieved with us and his contribution, my personal opinion is we need better. Can’t doubt his work rate and his ability to chip in with a goal or two, however there were too many times last season where he gave the ball away in dangerous areas that either cost a goal or nearly cost us a goal.

I know we are league 2 and you don’t get complete midfielders at this level, but I think we need a CM who has more physicality and who is a bit better with his decision making in key areas.


We would miss him , if he left.


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I wish I could bookmark posts on here because I think anybody doubting Hunt & Holohan will look very foolish in May, especially Hunt
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Hunt and holohan are both superb footballers at our level they just need better / more intelligent players around them
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I wish I could bookmark posts on here because I think anybody doubting Hunt & Holohan will look very foolish in May, especially Hunt


Why would Hunt doubt himself?
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Hunt and holohan are both superb footballers at our level they just need better / more intelligent players around them


I really hope this is the case. I’m more than happy to eat humble pie if our current midfield is good enough to dominate other midfields and make us play off contenders. Personally I don’t think it is, but I would absolutely would love to be proven wrong.


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I wish I could bookmark posts on here because I think anybody doubting Hunt & Holohan will look very foolish in May, especially Hunt


On what basis? Nothing to suggest Hunt will be anything other than mediocre at best. We need better.


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On what basis? Nothing to suggest Hunt will be anything other than mediocre at best. We need better.


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On what basis? Nothing to suggest Hunt will be anything other than mediocre at best. We need better.


If Paul Hurst, who lets face it knows more about football than you and I do put together, thinks he’s worth a 3 year contract then that’s good enough for me. Surely we have to trust the manager and to say that Hunt will be mediocre this season weeks before it has even started just totally amazes me. We all are entitled to our own opinions, of course we are, but yours astounds me. #UTM
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On what basis? Nothing to suggest Hunt will be anything other than mediocre at best. We need better.


All about opinions but I couldn’t disagree more.

What we need is the players with intelligence and speed to work with a player like hunt to get the best out of him.

Last season we needed a combination of Taylor and mcatee to get the best out of him but they were very rarely available together. This year I think hurst has specifically gone for speed and intelligence up top to make the most out of hunt.

I think, and hope, that hunt is going to be a huge player for us this season and that is the reason he was given a 3 year contract
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On what basis? Nothing to suggest Hunt will be anything other than mediocre at best. We need better.


on the basis of his very good first few months here where we was top of the league, battered near enough everyone and was playing some unbelievable football with him being the main lynchpin for that because he had players in front of him on the same wave length i.e Bapaga and Mcatee. Whether that be dictating the game, scoring worldie free kicks or putting set pieces on Waterfalls head. He performed well enough for Wednesday to offer him a new contract, then went out on loan to Oldham in which they were already copulated to the point of no survival. The kid has ability based on what we've already seen and based on that El General thought he was worth a 3 year contract. The man that saw him every day in training for a good six months. Based on what I saw with my eyes in those first few months, there's a footballer there capable of having the game by the gonads. It's on Hurst to get the pistons right so he's a vital part of the engine.
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Hunt being poor last season is a total myth. He started about 15 or so games in the league and FA Cup off the top of my head and was either decent or very good in about 10 of those.
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Might be happening already, but looking at some Arsenal U21's who have been released might be worth a punt?


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Why would Hunt doubt himself?


Because he's 23 years old and yet to establish himself as a regular starter in any team yet?
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I’ll say it again. One of our best performances was when hunt was supplying Khan and Kiernan Stockport away. We looked so dangerous on the break having forward runners with pace. Ever since we were forced to revert to a back 5, hunt became totally ineffective. We’ve signed forwards that are going to be breaking lines this season and hunt will be key for that.

Hurst hinted at this in one of his interviews, Hunt was sadly a result of the players around him not being on the same wavelength.




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I’ll say it again. One of our best performances was when hunt was supplying Khan and Kiernan Stockport away. We looked so dangerous on the break having forward runners with pace. Ever since we were forced to revert to a back 5, hunt became totally ineffective. We’ve signed forwards that are going to be breaking lines this season and hunt will be key for that.

Hurst hinted at this in one of his interviews, Hunt was sadly a result of the players around him not being on the same wavelength.


It was the much maligned Green who was man of the match in that game. Hunt only came on at half time (when we were already 2-1 up), and was probably only pulling the strings after they had a man sent off. https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_/gameId/642243

I hope that Hunt comes good, but based on what he's done to-date I still find it hard to see why so many feel sure he's going to be a pivotal part of the side next season, whilst at the same time deriding players like Holohan and Green who whilst not perfect have shown a lot more than him.
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Hunt has the ability to drive play and move the ball faster to get us on the attack more quickly. However, he has tended to make one or two loose passes most games (not difficult ones, either) which have cost us on occasion. I think it is more about concentration than anything so hopefully he'll come good this season, especially as we now have the faster players for him to try and find. He's a front foot player - if we can get on the front foot in games, he's going to be more effective.
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wheres o donnell come from he wont be signing , we will sign a keeper that been here b4 put me midtable at least
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Hunt has the ability to drive play and move the ball faster to get us on the attack more quickly. However, he has tended to make one or two loose passes most games (not difficult ones, either) which have cost us on occasion. I think it is more about concentration than anything so hopefully he'll come good this season, especially as we now have the faster players for him to try and find. He's a front foot player - if we can get on the front foot in games, he's going to be more effective.


Agree with most of that .

My memory is like a siv , but did Hurst hook Hunt last season after he made a mistake , or did not play him for a  while ?

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Agree with most of that .

My memory is like a siv , but did Hurst hook Hunt last season after he made a mistake , or did not play him for a  while ?



Yeah, he was also pretty open about the fact that Alex needed to bulk up and do a lot of physical work to be a key figure for him which I assume is what his pre season programme was designed to do.
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Pivotal season for Hunt in all honesty..this one has to be the season where he forces you he manager to select him from the off. Pre season needs to be at it..he has the ability..and as said elsewhere maybe the different personnel/set up will be advantageous to assist him - in being more ‘positive’ minded (not meant as a dig).

Think he has needed time to get used to lower league hustle and bustle, and the neee to strengthen individually physically wise -but no reason to think he can’t show his ability. If he does - will not only enhance us but also prove to be an astute signing/patience in the 3 year deal paying off. Not everything happens from the off.


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Rumours of an easy to say player on Hursts 'under the radar' radar may be close to signing.

May need American Football shoulderpads under your shirt to fit his name on

Thanawat Suengchitthawon released from Leicester City
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Quoted from Maringer
Hunt has the ability to drive play and move the ball faster to get us on the attack more quickly. However, he has tended to make one or two loose passes most games (not difficult ones, either) which have cost us on occasion. I think it is more about concentration than anything so hopefully he'll come good this season, especially as we now have the faster players for him to try and find. He's a front foot player - if we can get on the front foot in games, he's going to be more effective.


Agree with this post. I think with him being relatively young, confidence plays a part when he makes mistakes, also. When I have seen him make a loose pass, I remember him making another two or three and that sticks in the memory. Agree also that this season could be pivotal for his career.
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Hunt will benefit from better movement and more pace in front of him. I think another centre mid is needed and could make us contenders but to complement Hunt rather than replace him.
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wheres o donnell come from he wont be signing , we will sign a keeper that been here b4 put me midtable at least


Beautifully put


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Don't think we'll line up with a young inexperienced loan keeper day 1. He may prove himself but we've brought in some decent signings so I'd expect us to have our own No1 hopefully with some recent league one or upper league two experience.
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Rumours of an easy to say player on Hursts 'under the radar' radar may be close to signing.

May need American Football shoulderpads under your shirt to fit his name on

Thanawat Suengchitthawon released from Leicester City


I can't see any reference to say he has been released by Leicester and he has a cruciate injury which he is close to returning from but I can't imagine anyone touching him until he is back training and playing
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ACL op last September, which would tie in with a return about now.

Absolutely no idea if Hurst's interested. But Hurst always seems to have at least one player in his squad who has an injury asterix above their name.

Previously I've thought it's probably a recognition of what we've been able to get hold of and having to take a bit of a gamble.

But I also think it's probably the type of player Hurst likes. Someone who's come back from adversity and a challenge, someone with a little bit of fight in them.
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Saw a couple of players being shown around the training ground back end of last week. Wasn’t sure who they were.




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Quoted from Maringer
Hunt has the ability to drive play and move the ball faster to get us on the attack more quickly. However, he has tended to make one or two loose passes most games (not difficult ones, either) which have cost us on occasion. I think it is more about concentration than anything so hopefully he'll come good this season, especially as we now have the faster players for him to try and find. He's a front foot player - if we can get on the front foot in games, he's going to be more effective.


I agree with this, concentration has been his downfall, leading to lost possession. To a lesser extent trying to hard on occasion to force play when the pass is not on. I certainly hope he improves this season with the quicker movement in front of him, its certainly possible as he has the passing ability in his locker.

However I think this is a massive season  for him, he needs to improve on last season (and the season before with oldham) if he is to establish himself as capable of being a regular in a league side.
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Rumours on the Halifax side that we're in for their keeper Sam Johnson.
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Rumours on the Halifax side that we're in for their keeper Sam Johnson.


Halifax have proven to be a side with rich pickings for us in the past.
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Hunt will benefit from better movement and more pace in front of him. I think another centre mid is needed and could make us contenders but to complement Hunt rather than replace him.


Totally agree.

The faster we move the ball, the greater the threat we pose at this level. Hunt can drive that as he’s a more technically gifted player and if there’s more pace and movement ahead then he has a better chance of being effective. Some of our midfield need one or two more touches than Hunt.
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Quoted from fishcake63
wheres o donnell come from he wont be signing , we will sign a keeper that been here b4 put me midtable at least


O'Donnell has been here before....
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Announce this at the new kit launch; fans will need 2 shirts to fit the letters on so its a win win. The thing with clever marketing is to think outside the box.
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I think the other thing with Hunt is the lack of any sort of pace and width our shape had last season meant teams were able to press and squeeze us in the middle knowing full well that we had no chance of getting in behind. Would you really want to gamble on pressing high now with the risk of leaving space for Eisa/Wilson/Vernam to get in behind you? This will mean there’s more space in the middle of the pitch to pull the strings from and make the game less frantic which will suit Hunt. Coupled with hopefully more intelligent runs and technical players for him to feed then he should be far more effective. Agree though that it’s a big season in his career.
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Hunt needs to be looking, and playing, forwards. If he’s collecting it deep, he needs someone alongside him to offer a quick lay-off, or someone more confident on the ball than Waterfall or Efete if he needs to go straight back. A few times he got caught just in front of the back 4 last year because he had no real option on and turned into trouble. He’s obviously slight in build and he’s never going to be 6’2”, so the trick is getting him into positions where he’s not having to battle or get crowded out. Luckily it’s not my job to work out how to do that.

Anyhow, back to training a week tomorrow, who we expecting in this week? Surely a keeper or two otherwise Steve Croudson’s gonna be putting the cones out.
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Cartwright will be in the building and in the line-up for the 'Boro game.

Regards Hunt, he's a luxury player. The question isn't, for me anyway, about what he can/can't do. It's about how much we (as in the royal we, as in Hurst) are prepared to tolerate with him.

He's the type of player who can and will make things happen. He's a proper footballer and if surrounded by players who can anticipate what he sees and does, he'll absolutely intercourse up this league in terms of attacking outputs.

The problem is that both he and those players who are on that creative level tend, at this level at least, to be less likely to put in the graft or be defensively effective. In the Conference we got away with more of these luxury players because we were just that much better than a lot of our opponents. Last season was a cagier affair, we weren't as dominant and in the absence of finding those golden players who cover both sides of the coin, Hunt was surrounded largely by work horses. He saw things, but no-one else did and it was he who was caught with his pants down.

Thankfully I think Hurst has managed to get the right sort of players in this summer who will compliment Hunt but not at the expense of the team shape and discipline.

Genuinely think it'll be a big season for Hunt but a few others too.
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Hunt needs to be looking, and playing, forwards. If he’s collecting it deep, he needs someone alongside him to offer a quick lay-off, or someone more confident on the ball than Waterfall or Efete if he needs to go straight back. A few times he got caught just in front of the back 4 last year because he had no real option on and turned into trouble. He’s obviously slight in build and he’s never going to be 6’2”, so the trick is getting him into positions where he’s not having to battle or get crowded out. Luckily it’s not my job to work out how to do that.

Anyhow, back to training a week tomorrow, who we expecting in this week? Surely a keeper or two otherwise Steve Croudson’s gonna be putting the cones out.


In training tomorrow, I think, not next week.
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OK Ska I've been quiet so far. Let's get out this relegation fight... this week's signings..
Thanawat Suengchitthawon
Harvey Cartwright (Grimsby born)
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Cartwright will be in the building and in the line-up for the 'Boro game.


Do you have a source for this, other than the video with Hull's Chairman/Vice Chairman, which said Cartwright was POISED to join us on loan, but not that he has joined us, as proven by nothing official from GTFC yet?  I'm wondering if Hull are demanding that he is 1st choice if they loan him to us, and that maybe PH, who has been known to be quite stubborn sometimes, is not willing to guarantee that.  In his last two loans he only got 1 appearance for Wycombe and 1 for Peterborough.

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Yes I do.

Thanks for asking. 😉
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Yes I do.

Thanks for asking. 😉


Well would you like to ask him/her when/if this loan is going to take place as, IIRC the video I watched was about a week ago, and nothing has been confirmed yet.

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Do you have a source for this, other than the video with Hull's Chairman/Vice Chairman, which said Cartwright was POISED to join us on loan, but not that he has joined us, as proven by nothing official from GTFC yet?  I'm wondering if Hull are demanding that he is 1st choice if they loan him to us, and that maybe PH, who has been known to be quite stubborn sometimes, is not willing to guarantee that.  In his last two loans he only got 1 appearance for Wycombe and 1 for Peterborough.



I don’t know about stubborn. There’s absolutely no way Hurst should tolerate anyone telling him who has to be first choice and who doesn’t.


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I don’t know about stubborn. There’s absolutely no way Hurst should tolerate anyone telling him who has to be first choice and who doesn’t.


I agree, and am just wondering if that is what has happened here.  I hope not, as I understand he is a good keeper.  

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Do you have a source for this, other than the video with Hull's Chairman/Vice Chairman, which said Cartwright was POISED to join us on loan, but not that he has joined us, as proven by nothing official from GTFC yet?  I'm wondering if Hull are demanding that he is 1st choice if they loan him to us, and that maybe PH, who has been known to be quite stubborn sometimes, is not willing to guarantee that.  In his last two loans he only got 1 appearance for Wycombe and 1 for Peterborough.



“Harvey had interest, and we are more or less finalising his interest, so he will go out again”

“Is that from his hometown, Grimsby?”

“Yes, yes it is”



Couldn’t get much clearer than that. Vice Chairman of the selling club usually a decent source.
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It's been happening since the season ended, Harvey was the keeper that was coming in to challenge Max if he had stayed. It was done pretty early but holidays etc has delayed official proceedings. I believe someone on here has mutual friends with the family and can also confirm it's been on the table for some time.
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“Harvey had interest, and we are more or less finalising his interest, so he will go out again”

“Is that from his hometown, Grimsby?”

“Yes, yes it is”



Couldn’t get much clearer than that. Vice Chairman of the selling club usually a decent source.


Yes I watched that video, but he still hasn't signed for us yet, has he?  It's happened before.  Was it the January Window or last Summer we had someone 99.9% signed, but at the last minute it fell through?

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He's signed just not been announced yet spoke to his dad noddy down Grimsby road yesterday 👍


Do you have a source for this, other than the video with Hull's Chairman/Vice Chairman, which said Cartwright was POISED to join us on loan, but not that he has joined us, as proven by nothing official from GTFC yet?  I'm wondering if Hull are demanding that he is 1st choice if they loan him to us, and that maybe PH, who has been known to be quite stubborn sometimes, is not willing to guarantee that.  In his last two loans he only got 1 appearance for Wycombe and 1 for Peterborough.





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“Harvey had interest, and we are more or less finalising his interest, so he will go out again”

“Is that from his hometown, Grimsby?”

“Yes, yes it is”



Couldn’t get much clearer than that. Vice Chairman of the selling club usually a decent source.


Hull vice chair making a late charge on the rumour table is something I didn’t think I’d see tbh.


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Well would you like to ask him/her when/if this loan is going to take place as, IIRC the video I watched was about a week ago, and nothing has been confirmed yet.



Just asked...

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"Yup, deal done mate. Club are waiting to announce it though as apparently some bloke on The Fishy is getting wound up about it and it's funny as intercourse."


Your guess is as good as mine.
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Eastwood was with cartwright at Cheapside late last week (probably the 2 players that another poster spotted but couldn't identify). Cartwright may be arriving a bit later coz he might be needed to go on tour with Ull first of all.
Cartwright, like Vernam, was a deal that was due to be done in jan, but circumstances got in the way
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Just asked...



Your guess is as good as mine.


Thing is though, I'm not wound up at all, I just want to know if he's coming or not, seems odd that we wouldn't want to announce it.

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Where is / was Cartwright in the Tahgers pecking order? I know he’s made a couple of appearances in the Championship, but they’ve had a string of loan keepers as well as having a couple of other going stoppers who appear to have squad numbers ahead of HC (though that might be because he himself has been out on loan at other clubs).

If, at 21 and with relatively little senior experience, Hurst sees him as demonstrably better option than Max Crcocombe then it speaks volumes, but there’s relatively little out there about him in the public domain to draw an objective opinion about the lad.


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Where is / was Cartwright in the Tahgers pecking order? I know he’s made a couple of appearances in the Championship, but they’ve had a string of loan keepers as well as having a couple of other going stoppers who appear to have squad numbers ahead of HC (though that might be because he himself has been out on loan at other clubs).

If, at 21 and with relatively little senior experience, Hurst sees him as demonstrably better option than Max Crcocombe then it speaks volumes, but there’s relatively little out there about him in the public domain to draw an objective opinion about the lad.


3rd  or 4th choice i think  , but remember they are a Champ club paying relatively high wages .

They must think a lot of him as one to develop ,he signed a new 4 year contract a few months back .

It's one that could go either way , which is why I am assuming Hurst will sign a reliable alternative incase of any hiccups .

I hope he comes and get's his chance he could be another Dean Henderson

Or he could be a Tommy Forecast .

Hopefully the former .
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Hull supporting friend of mine says Cartwright is in that weird position of Hull really rating him and thinking he can really be something in the future, but not quite ready for the first team just yet.

Equally so they see no value in him sitting in the stands getting Under 23 games.

Hull are desperate to bring back Karl Darlow, plus Thimothée Lo-Tutala is seen as ready to challenge. There's also Matt Ingram still there.

I guess if you have to put a number on Cartwright in the pecking order it's probably No.4, but it's a meaningless number as he's seen as one for a couple of years time. Even with an injury crisis they're more likely to dip into the loan market themselves.

His pedigree is great, but we'll absolutely have to trust Hurst on what the lad has got about him. As you say, so little available about him. If he wasn't born on the Nunny, I dare say none of us would have heard of him.



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Hull supporting friend of mine says Cartwright is in that weird position of Hull really rating him and thinking he can really be something in the future, but not quite ready for the first team just yet.

Equally so they see no value in him sitting in the stands getting Under 23 games.

Hull are desperate to bring back Karl Darlow, plus Thimothée Lo-Tutala is seen as ready to challenge. There's also Matt Ingram still there.

I guess if you have to put a number on Cartwright in the pecking order it's probably No.4, but it's a meaningless number as he's seen as one for a couple of years time. Even with an injury crisis they're more likely to dip into the loan market themselves.

His pedigree is great, but we'll absolutely have to trust Hurst on what the lad has got about him. As you say, so little available about him. If he wasn't born on the Nunny, I dare say none of us would have heard of him.





Lol maybe that should be the next poll ' how many fishies were born on The Nunny?' .

I was
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Alas, I was not. Croft Baker for me. One of the last ones I believe.
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I was, Nunny Maternity Hospital; Second Avenue. Would imagine most on here born pre-mid 90s (which is virtually everyone) would have been born in that part of town.

Good info on Cartwright, gents, appreciate that. Ultimately, if Hurst fancies the lad for the number one slot then that’s good enough for me. All necessary due diligence will have been done, I am sure.


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Alas, I was not. Croft Baker for me. One of the last ones I believe.


You must be around the half century then as I am closing in on mine and also one of the last ones out of Croft Baker?
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'I walked in the dressing room. The window was open and I thought that a sea fret had got in. Then I saw smoke billowing from a pipe in the corner of the room...it was my centre-forward. He looked seven stone wet through. He went on to score thirty-odd goals that season.' Lawrie McMenemy on encountering the legend that was Matt Tees.
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My sister is mid-40s and was born in Croft Baker (as was I and as was my Dad!). I didn't realise it had closed down soon after she was born, but then I had only just started school, so I wasn't really paying that much attention...
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Maybe a Venn diagram is needed to correlate the relationship between birthplace/time and chip shop condiment choices.

I was a home birth in the late 50's and for me it's fish, chips, peas, salt and vinegar. No other pollutants allowed.
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Don’t want to sound like a killjoy but any chance you can start a new thread about where everyone was born and keep this a transfer/rumour thread.


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Where's the fun in that? The Abo Eisa thread is ten pages mostly about fish and chips!
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Don’t want to sound like a killjoy but any chance you can start a new thread about where everyone was born and keep this a transfer/rumour thread.


Good point.

Or add to/re-read this thread from when everyone last discussed which maternity home they were born in (!)

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1389206249/s-0/
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I wasn't born, I was chiselled from rock on the grange estate and I like a dribble of pickled onion vinegar on my fish and chips
Now, more to the point who are we signing in the next two days to create a massive queue outside the ticket office before the early bird expires?
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Born at Nunny. 75 years ago.


Me to (Scawby Rd) but only 69 years ago.



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Don’t want to sound like a killjoy but any chance you can start a new thread about where everyone was born and keep this a transfer/rumour thread.


Be honest though, we’re all surprised it actually took this long!

Hopefully to change the subject, players are back in today aren’t they? Who drew the short straw and has to go sit outside cheapside to spot new players this year?


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Hearing we’re hoping to be close to finished this week which seems like a bold prediction to me but this person has been spot on all summer so far.

Heard Jake Eastwood from a less reliable source, I know some didn’t rate him but he looked perfectly capable to me, and you’d imagine Cartwright would be Number 1.
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I wouldn’t imagine that Eastwood would want to sign here as back up and I wouldn’t imagine that we’d sign a loan keeper as backup either


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Hull supporting friend of mine says Cartwright is in that weird position of Hull really rating him and thinking he can really be something in the future, but not quite ready for the first team just yet.

Equally so they see no value in him sitting in the stands getting Under 23 games.

Hull are desperate to bring back Karl Darlow, plus Thimothée Lo-Tutala is seen as ready to challenge. There's also Matt Ingram still there.

I guess if you have to put a number on Cartwright in the pecking order it's probably No.4, but it's a meaningless number as he's seen as one for a couple of years time. Even with an injury crisis they're more likely to dip into the loan market themselves.

His pedigree is great, but we'll absolutely have to trust Hurst on what the lad has got about him. As you say, so little available about him. If he wasn't born on the Nunny, I dare say none of us would have heard of him.





Going on his last two loans at Wycombe and Peterborough, he only played in 1 match for both of them, so very little playing time at all in the men's leagues.

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Going on his last two loans at Wycombe and Peterborough, he only played in 1 match for both of them, so very little playing time at all in the men's leagues.



Agree on your point, but he's basically at the same point of his career as Deano was. He's also had loans at Barton & Gainsborough, which if we're talking about the rough and tough of mens football then I'd assume that'd have him in quite good stead given some of the units playing at that level. I've seen Harvey play, very good with the ball at his feet and is an upgrade on everything Max did well with the shot stopping ability of Macca.
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Agree on your point, but he's basically at the same point of his career as Deano was. He's also had loans at Barton & Gainsborough, which if we're talking about the rough and tough of mens football then I'd assume that'd have him in quite good stead given some of the units playing at that level. I've seen Harvey play, very good with the ball at his feet and is an upgrade on everything Max did well with the shot stopping ability of Macca.


That's good to hear, I actually should have used the word 'recently' into my post re his experience in men's football.  He sounds very promising and if PH rates him as a 1st choice, that's good enough for me.

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It’s going to be Cartwright and Eastwood by the looks of it, isn’t it (both apparently seen at Cheapside earlier in the thread).

I thought Eastwood looked very decent during his brief spell a couple of years ago. Hasn’t done an awful lot in the time since, mine.


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Can’t remember Eastwood all that greatly but is he an improvement on Max?
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It’s going to be Cartwright and Eastwood by the looks of it, isn’t it (both apparently seen at Cheapside earlier in the thread).

I thought Eastwood looked very decent during his brief spell a couple of years ago. Hasn’t done an awful lot in the time since, mine.


Sheffield United supporters on Twitter speculating it's another loan? Can't see why they would continue to have him on the books when he's never getting anywhere near the team
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I wouldn’t imagine that Eastwood would want to sign here as back up and I wouldn’t imagine that we’d sign a loan keeper as backup either


I don’t think any keepers particularly happy with being back up but from Eastwoods perspective he’s got to be thinking a loan isn’t a permanent solution & gives him a better chance of first team football in the long run.
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I think having both Cartwright and Eastwood is good will keep both of them on there toes knowing mistakes can mean one will get dropped we haven't had for a number of years mainly it was Crocombe or McKeown regardless.

Both on loan works for us Eastwood has one year left on his contract so he will have to try and earn a permanent deal and also gives Cartwright experience.
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I think having both Cartwright and Eastwood is good will keep both of them on there toes knowing mistakes can mean one will get dropped we haven't had for a number of years mainly it was Crocombe or McKeown regardless.

Both on loan works for us Eastwood has one year left on his contract so he will have to try and earn a permanent deal and also gives Cartwright experience.


I can't see Hurst wanting to fill up 2 loan spots with keepers. Obviously Cartwright is going to be a loan but if it is Eastwood (can't remember him playing here before for the life of me) then that's surely on a permanent.


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I can't see Hurst wanting to fill up 2 loan spots with keepers. Obviously Cartwright is going to be a loan but if it is Eastwood (can't remember him playing here before for the life of me) then that's surely on a permanent.


He was in goal towards the end of the last relegation season and was solid enough.
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Eastwood was at Cheapside Friday, definitely.
Really hope we get both him and Cartwright, great competition there, personally fancy Cartwright to be first choice though.
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I can't see Hurst wanting to fill up 2 loan spots with keepers. Obviously Cartwright is going to be a loan but if it is Eastwood (can't remember him playing here before for the life of me) then that's surely on a permanent.


I'm also torn by this, he's normally very tentative and calculated about how he uses his loans.
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Having failed to impress at Rochdale last season, I'm not sure Eastwood is in a position to be cherry picking what type of deal he gets.

I was impressed with him here, albeit via iFollow.

If it is a loan, it must be a first for Town to have two loan goalkeepers as their options at any one point.  I'm not against the loan market at all and don't subscribe to any notion where you should prioritise contracted players over loan players, end of the day there's no difference between a season loan and a 1-year contract in my eyes.   But it feels a bit odd.  
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We should find out soon I can see us having both but Eastwood on a permanent deal wether that makes him No. 1 I have no idea.  ..Not playing many games it will be a big ask to play him in every game so maybe Hurst will start the league with him and use Cartwright for the cup games and for any injuries or dip in form from Eastwood.

It's good we have competition in the keepers position at last if these rumours are true.


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We should find out soon I can see us having both but Eastwood on a permanent deal whether that makes him No. 1 I have no idea.  ..Not playing many games it will be a big ask to play him in every game so maybe Hurst will start the league with him and use Cartwright for the cup games and for any injuries or dip in form from Eastwood.

It's good we have competition in the keepers position at last if these rumours are true.


Pretty much the same can be said about Eastwood re games played.  In total he has only played 34 senior games since the 2016-17 season.  Recent loans include 0 appearances at Portsmouth 2021/22, 6 appearances at Rochdale 2021/22 and 0 appearances at Ross County 2022/23.  So, for what it's worth, the most 'experienced' of the two, re games played is Eastwood.  So take your pick for 1st choice keeper.

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If the players are back today they’ll want at least one keeper in place.

If we think back a year PH and the coaching team would not be long back from holiday. If the two keepers join today that’s 8 signings isn’t it? We’ve plenty of time to do the remaining business - 3 first team squad players perhaps. Then a younger lad or two to develop.

Any further rumours about Shrimpton?
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It's not anything new regards him.  But with the greatest respect in the world to the lad, if he did come here I wouldn't expect him to be near the first team to start with.

You can point at the shower of excrement that is Scunthorpe over the last 3 years, but he failed to hold down a regular first team spot in that awful side last season.  I'm not knocking his potential, which I think he's got a lot of based on the very small bits I've seen of him.  But I wouldn't, at this moment in time, but him ahead of any of our current crop.
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It's not anything new regards him.  But with the greatest respect in the world to the lad, if he did come here I wouldn't expect him to be near the first team to start with.

You can point at the shower of excrement that is Scunthorpe over the last 3 years, but he failed to hold down a regular first team spot in that awful side last season.  I'm not knocking his potential, which I think he's got a lot of based on the very small bits I've seen of him.  But I wouldn't, at this moment in time, but him ahead of any of our current crop.


Yes, wouldn’t expect him to be in the FT squad save for EFL Trophy. To continue to progress we need to improve our production line of young players though.
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Like I say, what I've seen of him is limited.  But he's a big, physical and fairly mobile unit.  I think if he came, I'd see him as understudy to Green in that role as a spoiler rather than someone to make things happen.

On paper we look fairly well stocked in central areas.  Green, Hunt, Clifton, Holohan and Khouri plus Mullarkey can play in there too I think.  You've then got a couple of the younger lads.  However if we're playing a combination of 3 in there it only takes an injury, Clifton to get shunted out wide etc. and we could easily look paper thin.  I always think a good rule of thumb is 2 players for every position, which would put us at 6 central midfielders.  Depending on how he uses Mullarkey, there's potentially room for one more.  I guess the question on that one is if Hurst is looking to improve the quality on what he's already got or not.
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Quoted from GyMariner
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Quite possibly.

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Rekeil Pyke signs out of absolutely nowhere!
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Who starts up front, or across the front line, is anyone’s guess now!

Great signing if he hits his Wrexham form.
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Who starts up front, or across the front line, is anyone’s guess now!

Great signing if he hits his Wrexham form.


Somebody has edited his Wiki unfortunately, his record isn’t as good as those stats suggest!
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Looks increasingly like we'll be playing 2 up top, a 442 or 4411 of some variety.
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Somebody has edited his Wiki unfortunately, his record isn’t as good as those stats suggest!


Yeah, the 17 in 43 for Port Vale a few seasons ago looked tasty, but doesn’t appear to have actually happened. Still, he’s played mostly League One football for the last few years, so he’s got decent pedigree.


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Quote from Wikipedia:

Port Vale assistant manager Chris Morgan said that Pyke was "quick and powerful" and had good finishing skills.

Not so sure about the finishing skills given his goalscoring record, albeit in a higher division, but the pace and strength is something which Hurst seems keen to add to the squad this year.

If there's one thing defenders hate, it is pace, so I'm quite happy with this.

No idea how we're going to line-up this season. After all the speculation, it would be amusing to see us starting with a 4-4-2!
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Bit of research seems to suggest he had a really tough time of it in his career until last season when he finally started to show signs of developing into a decent player. Played a lot of games last season, mainly on the wings and got a relatively respectable G/A return.

Strikes me as a player who it might be starting to click for, but really needs to kick on here for the sake of his career. Looks a little more risky than the others we’ve brought in but sounds like there’s a spark there that’s well worth taking a chance on.
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https://www.shropshirestar.com.....eve-cotterills-call/

I like how Cotterill described Pyke's loan to Scunthorpe as a waste of time. Also says he's played as a right wing-back
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Are we really still doing the whole 'oh no he's not scored enough goals in his career' thing? We've literally spent the last year trying to sign players who we think have more to offer than their career goals and assist records suggest - this is clearly another signing in that vein, and as with George Lloyd we ought to be giving him some time to see how he performs as a town player before all making our minds up.

Nearly all the 2022-23 top scorers in League Two scored intercourse all in the previous 2021-22 season, we're not gonna be signing players who banged in 15-20 goals last season at this level with our budget - we've got to try and uncover an under the radar player exactly like Pyke to try and turn them into a more prolific player.


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Big fan of the OS using dodgy Wiki career stats


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Quoted from Chrisblor
Are we really still doing the whole 'oh no he's not scored enough goals in his career' thing? We've literally spent the last year trying to sign players who we think have more to offer than their career goals and assist records suggest - this is clearly another signing in that vein, and as with George Lloyd we ought to be giving him some time to see how he performs as a town player before all making our minds up.

Nearly all the 2022-23 top scorers in League Two scored intercourse all in the previous 2021-22 season, we're not gonna be signing players who banged in 15-20 goals last season at this level with our budget - we've got to try and uncover an under the radar player exactly like Pyke to try and turn them into a more prolific player.


Great sentiment but I’m not sure I’ve seen anybody slagging off his record aside from quite literally one person on twitter
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Quoted from Chrisblor
Are we really still doing the whole 'oh no he's not scored enough goals in his career' thing? We've literally spent the last year trying to sign players who we think have more to offer than their career goals and assist records suggest - this is clearly another signing in that vein, and as with George Lloyd we ought to be giving him some time to see how he performs as a town player before all making our minds up.

Nearly all the 2022-23 top scorers in League Two scored intercourse all in the previous 2021-22 season, we're not gonna be signing players who banged in 15-20 goals last season at this level with our budget - we've got to try and uncover an under the radar player exactly like Pyke to try and turn them into a more prolific player.


Indeed. And even if you get one of those players if they get injured, which is likely as they'll be the main target for defenders in a physical league, you're blubbered. Like what we saw with McAtee's injury.


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Indeed. And even if you get one of those players if they get injured, which is likely as they'll be the main target for defenders in a physical league, you're blubbered. Like what we saw with McAtee's injury.


‘Don’t sign good strikers just in case they get injured’ is certainly a new one!
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‘Don’t sign good strikers just in case they get injured’ is certainly a new one!


You've already made the assumption there that Pyke isn't good (or the other strikers we've signed)

I mean more spending all your dosh on a Paul Mullin for example then not being able to afford anyone else.


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Quoted from Chrisblor
Are we really still doing the whole 'oh no he's not scored enough goals in his career' thing? We've literally spent the last year trying to sign players who we think have more to offer than their career goals and assist records suggest - this is clearly another signing in that vein, and as with George Lloyd we ought to be giving him some time to see how he performs as a town player before all making our minds up.


Think some people are just addicted to the idea of being able to say “told you so”, that and being terminally dull.
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You've already made the assumption there that Pyke isn't good (or the other strikers we've signed)

I mean more spending all your dosh on a Paul Mullin for example then not being able to afford anyone else.


I happen to be pleased with every single player we’ve signed
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The epitome of “mixed” reviews from Shrews fans, though the negative comments generally appear to be coming from some rather bitter and acerbic characters.

https://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/105892/rekeil-pyke-signs-grimsby-town

Personally, 60+ appearances in League One over the past couple of seasons suggest he should be more than capable in League Two. Given the extra layer of diligence going into recruitment now, on top of Hurst’s pretty reliable spidey-sense, I’m pretty confident this will turn out to be a decent signing.

I’m sure there will the the occasional contradiction, but Hurst’s signings from the level above the one we’re at are usually pretty decent, aren’t they? Thinking Disley, Podge, McAtee, Fox.


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I doubt PH would come out and directly say, but I would imagine that this window has seen us secure a host of his 1st, or possibly 2nd targets. What a solid foundation to build on. If I was the board it would now be a case of over to you Paul. Pressure and expectation which I am sure he will relish. Top 7 finish should be achievable. We managed to get to 11th without much of a pre season, a dodgy home record and the distraction (a wonderfully pleasant one) of the FA Cup quarter final. If we can avoid a glut of injuries is 70 points + realistic?


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Quoted from Mariner93er
Looks increasingly like we'll be playing 2 up top, a 442 or 4411 of some variety.


I think the opposite. It doesn’t look like he’s a striker in the traditional sense and it says he’s a forward. I think it’ll be 433 or 4231 as other than Rose and Orsi all the other forward players operate better from out wide. Wouldn’t be surprised if we brought in another striker to be back up to Rose.
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I'd be amazed by if we played 4-4-2. Think M91 has it spot on.
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Agree on your point, but he's basically at the same point of his career as Deano was. He's also had loans at Barton & Gainsborough, which if we're talking about the rough and tough of mens football then I'd assume that'd have him in quite good stead given some of the units playing at that level. I've seen Harvey play, very good with the ball at his feet and is an upgrade on everything Max did well with the shot stopping ability of Macca.


that might be the case but its worth remembering that Hurst didn;t play Deano despite bringing him in
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that might be the case but its worth remembering that Hurst didn;t play Deano despite bringing him in


It’s worth remembering he took him (and played him) at Shrewsbury too..
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Yeah he’s probably learned his lesson that when someone gives you an England u20 keeper, it’s probably worth giving them a run out.
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Ryan Bennett

Is this deal dead in the water then? Many reliable sources a week or so ago saying that this was a done deal, now looking unlikely?

I know some very reliable accounts on here seamed to think it was over the line - maybe not the case? He would be an awesome signing before the Early Bird ST offer ends and showing off the new shirt?

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Ryan Bennett

Is this deal dead in the water then? Many reliable sources a week or so ago saying that this was a done deal, now looking unlikely?

I know some very reliable accounts on here seamed to think it was over the line - maybe not the case? He would be an awesome signing before the Early Bird ST offer ends and showing off the new shirt?



Impossible question at the moment, it's certainly not been as bread and butter as some people expected.

Certainly given he is local to the area, I think he was touted as the first signing of the summer, so I am not sure what's happened there? I did hear something (probably further down on this thread) about him having a negative experience when he was training here last winter, not sure what that was about but I've heard Peterborough have been looking at him going back there, and that's already to go with the contract offer from Cambridge? So I would imagine there is certainly some working out to be done with him.


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Ryan Bennett is not signing for GTFC... He never was!!!
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Ryan Bennett is not signing for GTFC... He never was!!!


And your Statement is based on what?
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I’m sure Ryan would love to sign for us. Just don’t think PH wants to spaff the money required to make it happen.
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The trouble is certain people on here  just don't like being told the truth.
I don't post very often, i only post when i have the facts...
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The trouble is certain people on here  just don't like being told the truth.
I don't post very often, i only post when i have the facts...


I have no issue with the truth at all, in fact, I much prefer it. What are the FACTS that you are referring too?
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The trouble is certain people on here  just don't like being told the truth.
I don't post very often, i only post when i have the facts...


You’ve not really answered his question, you have the facts based off what?
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Bennett won't be happening.
Deal was close, but have since broken down.


I put on here on the 14th June that the deal had broken down for what its worth.
Shame, as like many, i thought it would be a real statement signing, however the Rodgers signing has made up for it.
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Been told the Bennett deal was just some conversations which was blown out of proportion...

I don't expect him to sign, especially with the rumours going round about his time here last time.
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Now, don't be silly CodHead...!   If i told you where i got info from you would know as much as me...
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I’m predicting we’ll see a couple out and a couple of loans in towards the end of the window.
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Interested how we use the loan market - how many can you have in the squad ?
6 i think , assume Cartwright is 1 so we still have room for 5 more .

Will we use less or top up the squad with a few again ?
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Well until Bennett signs for somebody I am still hoping he will sign for us.


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Well until Bennett signs for somebody I am still hoping he will sign for us.


Same Pete! He's obviously not staying at Cambridge because surely he'd have signed his new contract by now. My guess is us or Peterborough.


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I think, what's happened here with Bennett, is that somebody with a credible source knew what was happening, posted on here, and then a collection of fans piggy-backed on this info, claiming they had their own sources/info when they never did.

Hence why you get multiple people saying 'He's signing, announced soon' and yet here we are.

Not discrediting the original info, which is that we were likely in talks with him. Sounds to me like he maybe didn't make a decision quick enough and Hurst moved on. He's shown that with Crocombe.

With transfer rumours, if they're credible, they often come from one source. Various people on this forum are probably talking about the same source. A lot of others are also in it for the glory without knowing anything. They'll piggy-back on others' info, or take a wild punt but claim they had inside knowledge.

From a sociology point of view, the behaviour of fans at this time of year is very interesting! Why does it matter that one person knows more than others? I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but the points system underlies the oneupmanship nature of it all.

It's a bit weird.

And I say that as a jealous fan who's never had any inside knowledge of any deals, ever  


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Now, don't be silly CodHead...!   If i told you where i got info from you would know as much as me...


Alright everybody we are signing Mbappe because CodHead said so. I can’t tell you my source (mainly because I don’t have one)
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Any updates Surrey97??


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Now that is really a stupid remark CodHead... I think you need to grow up a little...
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Any updates Surrey97??


Has “redacted” signed yet?


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Now that is really a stupid remark CodHead... I think you need to grow up a little...


Maybe I do, however this doesn’t change the fact that your source is no more credible than mine, the only way you can prove it is, is by saying your source.

Why not share your source, what is there to hide? Unless you don’t know anything and are just posting on here to wind people up.
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Now that is really a stupid remark CodHead... I think you need to grow up a little...


To be fair, I think CodHead is simply drawing a comparison between your comment and his.  Neither of which we know are true

If he signs he signs, if not the world won't end and both parties move on.  
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Has “redacted” signed yet?


If am led to believe is right, and the player is the same one, then he has been offered a deal by another club but isn’t interested that much in it. I also believe that he’s been having a look locally at properties.

There’s been chats with at least 2 other league 2 sides and he is definitely on towns short list. Though, as I’ve been told, this could be 2 or 32!


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Bored to intercourse with this Bennett saga now and I imagine Hurst is now.

It's nice to see for a change that we're doing business early and within that you've got to presume we're picking up preferred targets (Unlikely we'll have been knocked back by first and second choices so early and still managed to pick up others down the list).  

I would imagine Bennett is/was high on that list of targets but by bringing in others I reckon Hurst might have just moved on.  I'm sure Bennett's a decent bloke and I'll never knock anyone for looking after themselves, but there's only so long you can leave people hanging before you have to accept that you've brought on yourself those long painful hours up and down the A1...
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I also agree that we're due a few going out.  

I'm gonna guess on Orsi and Green.

Orsi just doesn't look fancied at all by Hurst and his comments yesterday about having three proper centre forwards now just seemed to be a bit of a nod towards the fact that he doesn't see him as part of his plans.

Green, dunno why just got a feeling.
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I also agree that we're due a few going out.  

I'm gonna guess on Orsi and Green.

Orsi just doesn't look fancied at all by Hurst and his comments yesterday about having three proper centre forwards now just seemed to be a bit of a nod towards the fact that he doesn't see him as part of his plans.

Green, dunno why just got a feeling.


I think Orsi could do well at this level, but like you said, it seems Hurst isn't so keen.

Green is ok, but i'm not sure he will be good enough to play if we challenging for play-offs
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I think Orsi could do well at this level, but like you said, it seems Hurst isn't so keen.

Green is ok, but i'm not sure he will be good enough to play if we challenging for play-offs


I think there’s a role to play for Green. Perhaps not starting week-in, week-out, but as someone to bring on for the last 15 or 20 when we’re defending a tight lead away from home, I think he’s a good fit.

Whilst he may be limited technically he does the dirty work well and my impression from our recruitment so far is that Hurst wants different options for a fluid, horses for courses approach. I think he’ll stay.


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Would imagine those going out on loan include Orsi, Tomlinson, Braithwaite, Essel and Bramwell which at present would only leave us with about 18 players in the squad.
In that case I could see another 5 arrivals before the season starts
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I think there’s a role to play for Green. Perhaps not starting week-in, week-out, but as someone to bring on for the last 15 or 20 when we’re defending a tight lead away from home, I think he’s a good fit.

Whilst he may be limited technically he does the dirty work well and my impression from our recruitment so far is that Hurst wants different options for a fluid, horses for courses approach. I think he’ll stay.


Uh oh, Keiran Green starring as a glorified Daniel Parslow! Remember the reception to that one at Chester?

I also think there's place for Green in the core of 18-20 who form the core of the squad to get us towards the sharp end. He's deeply limited on the ball but has his uses such as his sheer will, energy and determination to do the graft and dirty stuff. Just think we need someone who's more mobile and/or better on the ball in that position he plays if we're serious about challenging at the sharp end.


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Uh oh, Keiran Green starring as a glorified Daniel Parslow! Remember the reception to that one at Chester?

I also think there's place for Green in the core of 18-20 who form the core of the squad to get us towards the sharp end. He's deeply limited on the ball but has his uses such as his sheer will, energy and determination to do the graft and dirty stuff. Just think we need someone who's more mobile and/or better on the ball in that position he plays if we're serious about challenging at the sharp end.


How could I forget? I do think there are some distinct differences between Parslow and Green, though. Parslow was somewhat passive in his game, and his substitution that day was also coupled with a more general directive to sit back and keep things defensively compact.

Green is more energetic and disruptive, and you could make a straight personnel swap without completely changing system. My bigger concern with him is a liability to give away free-kicks in dangerous areas, but I expect we can temper that with a defensive unit we can put significant trust in next season.


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Bored to intercourse with this Bennett saga now and I imagine Hurst is now.

It's nice to see for a change that we're doing business early and within that you've got to presume we're picking up preferred targets (Unlikely we'll have been knocked back by first and second choices so early and still managed to pick up others down the list).  

I would imagine Bennett is/was high on that list of targets but by bringing in others I reckon Hurst might have just moved on.  I'm sure Bennett's a decent bloke and I'll never knock anyone for looking after themselves, but there's only so long you can leave people hanging before you have to accept that you've brought on yourself those long painful hours up and down the A1...

Yep similar to my thoughts.

The thing that doesn't add up to me is that if the reason for the deal sticking is because Bennett wasn't happy with the way things unfolded in the last window, then what is/was his end game? Because that's in the past. Does he want us to go back in a time machine and offer him a contract last Jan? Or does he want to sign for us now?

The only way he signs now is if Waterfall goes to Chesterfield anyway and I'm not keen on that really. Bennett would be an upgrade of course, but Waterfall would be a huge loss. I'm not in this camp that has decided that his time with Town is numbered. He was one of our best players last season and while he isn't gonna be playing out from the back he's still one of the best and most reliable CBs at this level and a great leader. People seem to be of the opinion that Waterfall went through some kind of astonishing revival in 21/22. Not true. He's spent a huge percentage of his career being a top tier L2 CB. 20/21 was a blip when he was partnered with someone he never should have been with Pollock and had no protection whatsoever in front of him.

Saga is the correct word for what's happened with Bennett and I don't think we need the games and the potentially negative energy that comes with it when keeping Waterfall provides stability and continuity.

Use whatever we're saving on not getting Bennett in to get that CM signing right, I say.
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How could I forget? I do think there are some distinct differences between Parslow and Green, though. Parslow was somewhat passive in his game, and his substitution that day was also coupled with a more general directive to sit back and keep things defensively compact.

Green is more energetic and disruptive, and you could make a straight personnel swap without completely changing system. My bigger concern with him is a liability to give away free-kicks in dangerous areas, but I expect we can temper that with a defensive unit we can put significant trust in next season.


Yeah the giving away free kicks bit, parricularly when there was no need and the oppo was on tge edge of their own area, was something he was a real liability for in the first half of last season. I do think he improved noticeably in that aspect though.
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Without being rude ..who’s to say Bennett was wanted? There’s only rumours from fans to go off..and that he trained here last season for a bit. Genuinely think it’s an easy assumption and some make 2+2=5.


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Worth pointing out just how buzzing Hurst was when we signed Green last summer, don't think I remember him reacting like that to another signing.
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Uh oh, Keiran Green starring as a glorified Daniel Parslow! Remember the reception to that one at Chester?


Maybe we won't have this mindset this season if Hurst takes onboard the non-too subtle hint Jason dropped into his last Guardian article about decision making:-


"In football, this bias often shows up when a team have taken a lead. There is a natural inclination for some coaches and players to become more cautious, focusing on maintaining their lead rather than actively seeking to extend it. This defensive mindset can intuitively feel right but data suggests that often maintaining possession, building attacks and creating scoring opportunities can help not only in increasing the goal margin but also in controlling the game and reducing the chances of the opposition mounting a comeback."


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Would imagine those going out on loan include Orsi, Tomlinson, Braithwaite, Essel and Bramwell which at present would only leave us with about 18 players in the squad.
In that case I could see another 5 arrivals before the season starts


I can’t see any reason for Orsi to go out on loan. For a start there will be injuries during pre-season training and friendlies - there always is, furthermore if we create chances and he’s on the end of them he’ll finish a good proportion of them. I expect him on the bench come 5th August. If he’s not part of Hurst’s plan surely he’d be allowed to leave.

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Well one of the new goalkeepers won't be O'Donnell. Confirmed he's signed for Blackpool. Wonder if Croudson's had another lonely day at cheapside?


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Green's going nowhere I can guarantee it.

Think a few just need to temper their expectations when it comes to Green. He's not going to hit 30/40 yard wonderpasses, he's not going to outpace his opponent, and go on marauding runs into the opponents half. He will screen our centre-backs, make simple, short passes to more creative players, but will block, head, and challenge every ball and player that comes his way, and is not afraid of going into tough tackles.

He's a monster at his job and was one of, if not the best, in the NL for that, and is a massive reason why he was one of Hurst's primary targets last summer.

I think it was his first full season in League 2, and I expect him, along with: Efete, Hunt, and Maher, all to further improve from last year.
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Quoted from Son of Cod

Yep similar to my thoughts.

The thing that doesn't add up to me is that if the reason for the deal sticking is because Bennett wasn't happy with the way things unfolded in the last window, then what is/was his end game? Because that's in the past. Does he want us to go back in a time machine and offer him a contract last Jan? Or does he want to sign for us now?

The only way he signs now is if Waterfall goes to Chesterfield anyway and I'm not keen on that really. Bennett would be an upgrade of course, but Waterfall would be a huge loss. I'm not in this camp that has decided that his time with Town is numbered. He was one of our best players last season and while he isn't gonna be playing out from the back he's still one of the best and most reliable CBs at this level and a great leader. People seem to be of the opinion that Waterfall went through some kind of astonishing revival in 21/22. Not true. He's spent a huge percentage of his career being a top tier L2 CB. 20/21 was a blip when he was partnered with someone he never should have been with Pollock and had no protection whatsoever in front of him.

Saga is the correct word for what's happened with Bennett and I don't think we need the games and the potentially negative energy that comes with it when keeping Waterfall provides stability and continuity.

Use whatever we're saving on not getting Bennett in to get that CM signing right, I say.


That isn’t the case. He’s spent more of his career in non league than he has in the FL and hadn’t made 100 appearances in the FL until he was nearly 30. He would be a big loss in terms of character and is excellent in certain situations but is still a limited L2 defender. I don’t think he could ever be classed as a top tier L2 defender given that he was dropped by Lincoln in their first season back and was abysmal in one of the three seasons he’s had in L2 with us (Holloway’s fault but he was awful).

I don’t want us to lose Waterfall but if he decides that it’s time I would trust Hurst to find better.
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The criticism of Green appears to have gathered pace out of nowhere and I can’t for the life of me see it. His distribution leaves a lot to be desired at times but he’s brilliant at the stuff we specifically signed him for, he wins the ball back in difficult areas and allows the more technical players to flourish. With the formation we’re playing we need a player like Green and I can’t think of many in recent times who do it better, he’ll only improve this season too.

Fans bemoan losing a player like Clay but in the same breath will criticise Green, can’t personally get my head round it.
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Didn’t Green sign 3 year contract when he arrived last summer? Seem to believe he was a top target for Hurst. Personally think he’ll play a big part this next season.
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Im a big fan of Green and would like to see him as THE holding player whilst the creative stuff is handled by Hunt and Clifton.  Can see Holohan and Khouri having the more influence as impact subs this season, along with the usual rotation throughout the season.

If we signed another in centre midfield then Hurst would have an even more selection headache
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I am bemused , Green was essential in many games. He never hides or shirks and is a better player than some give him credit for.
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The signings we've made already seem to have improved us. The big question is will they improve us enough to rise a few places in the league? Other clubs won't be standing still either, and the division looks a lot stronger this season. My gut feeling is the remaining four or five signings we still need to make, or at least a couple of them, will define our prospects for the season in relation to other clubs. I'm liking the added extra pace. Can't say I'm completely blown away with our transfer business so far, but definitely not disappointed at the same time. We may have to improve significantly to avoid treading water. I'm still waiting for a silver bullet or two from Hurst..
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Green was highly rated at Halifax. When we signed him and Maher, the Halifax fans felt we'd just signed their two best players of a season in which they finished above us.

What did for Green last season was an injury that kept him out the side for the first chunk of the season.

Due to the personnel available, and Hurst adapting his formation/tactics in Jan, I don't think any of us knew who were the preferred players in central midfield.

To me, Clifton was always in (as long as he was fit) and, after that, it was probably Gav Holohan then one of Morris, Green and Hunt.

That central unit got rotated throughout — sometimes forced by injuries, other times by Hurst.

What Green really needed was a proper run of games. It felt like a bit of a stop-start season for him, and when you're in that engine room you really need a run of games to get going.

I think fans are talking about Green because it's a topic we haven't yet discussed. With Morris gone, I think we definitely have enough in central midfield if we're going to play 4-4-2, but could maybe do with one more to supplement what we have in Clifton, Holohan, Green and Hunt (maybe a youngster on loan who's happy to be on the bench).


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PH describes Green as a warrior and I don't believe for a second that he's going anywhere. PH is loyal to the people he rates and Green will be an essential part of his plans for next season
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Green was highly rated at Halifax. When we signed him and Maher, the Halifax fans felt we'd just signed their two best players of a season in which they finished above us.

What did for Green last season was an injury that kept him out the side for the first chunk of the season.

Due to the personnel available, and Hurst adapting his formation/tactics in Jan, I don't think any of us knew who were the preferred players in central midfield.

To me, Clifton was always in (as long as he was fit) and, after that, it was probably Gav Holohan then one of Morris, Green and Hunt.

That central unit got rotated throughout — sometimes forced by injuries, other times by Hurst.

What Green really needed was a proper run of games. It felt like a bit of a stop-start season for him, and when you're in that engine room you really need a run of games to get going.

I think fans are talking about Green because it's a topic we haven't yet discussed. With Morris gone, I think we definitely have enough in central midfield if we're going to play 4-4-2, but could maybe do with one more to supplement what we have in Clifton, Holohan, Green and Hunt (maybe a youngster on loan who's happy to be on the bench).


I wouldn't want any player who was happy to sit on the bench.

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Quoted from Stew0_0

If we signed another in centre midfield then Hurst would have an even more selection headache


I think it's an area where we need at least one, quality addition that improves upon what we've already got. I think we'll do some business there, with Morris leaving.

Sam Clucas has been mentioned on here before but is probably a bit fanciful (there seemed to be some talk of him heading to Lincoln; I'm sure one of our lurking Imp friends can either confirm or deny), but other semi-ambitious names that might fit the bill include Dennis Adeniran, Dan Batty and Liam Kinsella.

Fairly confident we'll do something, but I'd take quality over quantity in this case, particularly with young Khouri emerging.



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That isn’t the case. He’s spent more of his career in non league than he has in the FL and hadn’t made 100 appearances in the FL until he was nearly 30. He would be a big loss in terms of character and is excellent in certain situations but is still a limited L2 defender. I don’t think he could ever be classed as a top tier L2 defender given that he was dropped by Lincoln in their first season back and was abysmal in one of the three seasons he’s had in L2 with us (Holloway’s fault but he was awful).

I don’t want us to lose Waterfall but if he decides that it’s time I would trust Hurst to find better.

Yep, apologies I meant to write L2/NL.

He wasn't dropped by Lincoln though, he went up a level to L1 after Askey met his release clause at Shrewsbury. He was barely out of that Lincoln side and is very well thought of there.

As I said, that 20/21 season was the outlier in the last decade or so.
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I've voted for Waterfall to be our POTS in both of the last two seasons, not sure why people are suddenly becoming sceptical as to his effectiveness.

He has his limitations on the ball and in terms of pace but you'd be hard pressed to find many better lower league defenders who are better at what they do than Luke.


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I've voted for Waterfall to be our POTS in both of the last two seasons, not sure why people are suddenly becoming sceptical as to his effectiveness.

He has his limitations on the ball and in terms of pace but you'd be hard pressed to find many better lower league defenders who are better at what they do than Luke.


I think the issue is with Waterfall is he’s probably got 1 season left at this level realistically, 2 at a push. If we can sign a version of him that’ll give us 3-4 seasons instead, then we should look at doing it.
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I think the issue is with Waterfall is he’s probably got 1 season left at this level realistically, 2 at a push. If we can sign a version of him that’ll give us 3-4 seasons instead, then we should look at doing it.


Exactly this

For us I am in doubt it would be great to keep him for one more year .

But for him if he's offered a gauranteed 2 or 3 years he's got to take it surely .
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Sorry, but I dont get this love in for green.his passing is atrocious . Love the destructive stuff he does, but hes not a div 1 player, which is what we need to be aiming at. Hopefully he will improve, but I dont see him.improving like naher n  khouri have improved
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I think Green needs options when he gets the ball , If Hunt plays he needs to take it off him or receive it short ; we probably do need another one in there who can take it off him and make his life easier . Clifton can't really do it , it's not his game neither can Holahan , who for me is a player who needs to take as least of the ball as possible and just use his ability to get in the box /have shots in the final third .

Green is a destroyer who just needs to do that and give the ball to a better technical player .

With a season behind him and better quality of players , I expect him to have a good campaign .
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I don't want to see Waterfall go. Last season we talked a lot about our forwards getting out muscled by big defenders and the more successful teams having big strikers who dominated defenders.

Waterfall is a big defender who doesn't get dominated by big strikers. Unless we're 100% certain we have that in the defence we need him.

I am aware of his limitations, but he knows them too and plays in a way that minimises them.


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Sorry, but I dont get this love in for green.his passing is atrocious . Love the destructive stuff he does, but hes not a div 1 player, which is what we need to be aiming at. Hopefully he will improve, but I dont see him.improving like naher n  khouri have improved


I’m sort of with you. I have no problem with a midfield warrior if that player doesn’t look likely a yellow/red card/free kick in a dangerous situation waiting to happen.
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I’m sort of with you. I have no problem with a midfield warrior if that player doesn’t look likely a yellow/red card/free kick in a dangerous situation waiting to happen.


I don’t mean to sound like his agent but he got 7 yellows in 31 games last season, one every 4.5 games and zero red cards. They’re not exactly the stats of somebody who’s constantly in danger of costing us results.

On that, it’s worth noting he was one of the first players we signed with stats heavily in mind in our decision making. I believe he was statistically the best DM in the National League the season before last and if we’re going down this ‘money ball’ route, there’s going to be players like Green whose contribution might not be glaringly obvious but extremely vital to the bigger picture.
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I'm a big fan of Green. There, I've said it.

You can pick fault with just about any player at this level, but I agree with pontoonlew, in that the contribution of certain players isn't always obvious.

PH is very good at getting the blend of the team more right than wrong. Not all the players will have silky skills.

I think Green will have a better second season, as will Hunt.
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If you combined Green and Hunt, that player wouldn't be playing for Grimsby Town.. there's a reason they play 4th Division football. Players are going to have strengths and weaknesses. Now if you could find a way to play them both together that would be ideal as you'd have the perfect blend but I think they're both best sat in front of the back 4 so it's a tough puzzle to solve.
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If you combined Green and Hunt, that player wouldn't be playing for Grimsby Town.. there's a reason they play 4th Division football. Players are going to have strengths and weaknesses. Now if you could find a way to play them both together that would be ideal as you'd have the perfect blend but I think they're both best sat in front of the back 4 so it's a tough puzzle to solve.
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Jordon Ibe, ex-Liverpool winger has been without a club for nearly a year.

Reported to be training with Chesterfield although no mentions that they are looking to sign him. Far too good for the NL
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Probably waiting for a prison sentence isn’t he ?


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Sorry, but I dont get this love in for green.his passing is atrocious . Love the destructive stuff he does, but hes not a div 1 player, which is what we need to be aiming at. Hopefully he will improve, but I dont see him.improving like naher n  khouri have improved


Not all div one players can cope with div 2 physical game so I will be happy with top performing league 2 players when we get to league one I have faith in Paul hurst to quickly move on those players who he feels will not make the grade
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Suggestion on Twitter that the mystery keeper spotted at training today is Kieran O'Hara who left Colchester at the end of last season.
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Jordon Ibe, ex-Liverpool winger has been without a club for nearly a year.

Reported to be training with Chesterfield although no mentions that they are looking to sign him. Far too good for the NL


Sullay kaikai is another of those players that you would’ve thought would have clubs lining up but seems to be without a club at present



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Does anyone know when we might expect GK announcement?
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Sullay kaikai is another of those players that you would’ve thought would have clubs lining up but seems to be without a club at present



There is always something more behind this kind of situation - 'insiders' knowing something we don't and knowing to keep clear of them.


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Does anyone know when we might expect GK announcement?


Sometime between now and August 5th, GUARANTEED.


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It’s getting late to announce the marquee signing. Fully expecting news of extra security being drafted in for crowd control at the ticket office
By the way, it looks like De Gea is on his way out of Old Trafford. Slim chance of course because Ph wants to play out from the back
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I think Green is absolute quality. The type of player I think we've lacked more so many years and also the type I think most of us just love to watch, yet hate when in opposition colours.

My feeling that he might go out isn't based on anything and certainly not because of how I view him in the team.  But I do think Hurst will rightly look to improve every area of the squad this summer, I think the only position that might get a bit of respite is left-back simply because we've got two lads contracted there.  

But with the exception of Morris leaving, we've seen no movement in midfield.  I suppose you can argue that Morris' departure might be offset number wise by the development late last season of Khouri.  Looking at who he's brought in and when he's hinted at what he wants to get out of the next version of this team, it's Green who I see as the one struggling a bit to get in it.  We've brought lads in who are going to move about and that suits Hunt down to a tee, I think he was always signed with a view to getting the best out of him once the other parts of the squad were in place.  Clifton is the main-man in there, unless he's sold he's not missing out. Holohan has both his fans and critics but Hurst is of the former mindset. Khouri I think will really kick on again and emerge as a staple of the first team.

Personally I think there will be opportunities were we need Green more than someone like Hunt or Holohan in there.  It's about balance. We'll have games when we need someone to just steam into someone and set the tempo, just like we'll have games when it's more important the tempo is set by the pace of our passing rather than putting someone in the stand.

I just think Hurst might be looking to see if he can upgrade to bring in someone who can bring that physicality and tenacity and then a bit more too.
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Personally I think there will be opportunities were we need Green more than someone like Hunt or Holohan in there.


Agree with this.

He'll get loads of game time, we're not going to be out footballing every side all the time and sometimes we'll be under the cosh or needing to win a physical battle and Green is perfect for this.

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Getting stuck in and physicality only takes you so far - albeit they are excellent qualities and many say should be a 'given' in any case
At any level class, composure and quality are more vital; it is what separates the also rans from the winners

If we are going to play 'passing game' next season that area will have to improve - this is where Hunt will need to be more consistent and hopefully Khouri will improve

Passing is not Clifton's, Holohan's and Green's game - they give the ball away far too much - so we probably need another ball player in style of Hunt

We have loads of pace and attacking threat now but they are only as good as the service they get
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Agree with this.

He'll get loads of game time, we're not going to be out footballing every side all the time and sometimes we'll be under the cosh or needing to win a physical battle and Green is perfect for this.



At home when teams sit all and sundry behind the ball is the time when it's worthless having him in there and Clifton on the wing as a grafter/milner type . Away from home he's perfect and for the games at home against teams who on paper are better than us and will have a lot of the ball .

But I do expect when teams come and look like fodder for a beating , us to roll out the array of attacking options -Hunt the pivot with Clifton and AN other (creative midfielder ) taking the game to them properly with 3 forwards Khan/Vernam/Rose for example .There must have been 5 games + when teams looked there for the taking and a heavy one at that but we either drew or laboured to a win .

There will probably be a similiar amount + next season and that's when hopefully the better quality and attacking intent of player will tell .

Again it's all down to arr Paul though .
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Early on last season we had Green further forward with Morris sitting deep.

I actually really liked what I saw of Green in that role.  I thought he was something different rather than the cuter type approach from more advanced midfielders who try to work off the shoulders or anticipate where the loose ball will fall.  His approach was more a case of barging through.

I don't want to make comparisons and I do this very loosely, but it reminded me slightly of Alan Pouton as an attacking midfielder.  A player who wasn't technically gifted, wasn't able to spray passes around and those lollipop stepovers never fooled anyone.  But bloody hell teams knew he was about when he was hassling them into mistakes in front of their own 'keeper.  

Again, it's about a balance.  In the squad we can't have just pure footballers.  We can't just have pure defenders at the back, we need someone capable of bringing it out.  Up top, you can't just have poachers.  In the attacking midfield role I think, at this level, there's something for an option where it's just as much about a physical pressing style than it is technique.  I'd argue the better stuff from McAtee came from his willingness to chase everything down and be a pain in the bottom as much as it was his ability with the ball.  

I'm not saying I think Green should be our No.10 and he's never going to morph into prime David Silva. But I wouldn't just restrict him as someone who can sit in front and screen the back four when we're under the cosh a bit.
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I seem to remember Hurst saying Orsi was the most naturally gifted finisher at the club last season. It must have been frustrating for Orsi being on the bench as often as he was, but then he took the bull by the horns when he was given the chance, and I think he played really well for the rest of the season. Yes, he may not be first choice again, but he is still a very worthy bench warmer.

Green.........possibly not a starter for every game. I think he would be more suited to being in the starting XI for most away games, where our formation should be a little bit more defensive. For home games we should play a more attacking formation, considering our signings so far, for the home games, whereas he could be a bench warmer for those.
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I think you can have Hunt & Green or Hunt & Holohan but you can't have Holohan & Green. When they play together, our ball retention is dreadful.
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Green is the midfield 1 in a 4-1-4-1 formation in my opinion.
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                                Yashin

Mullarkey    Waterfall/Rodgers     Maher    Glennon

                       Hunt            Green

                                Clifton

  Eisa                      Donovan               Vernam

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                                Yashin

Mullarkey    Waterfall/Rodgers     Maher    Glennon

                       Hunt            Green

                                Clifton

  Eisa                      Donovan               Vernam

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I've heard of using the 12th man, but I always thought that referred to the crowd....
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                                Yashin

Mullarkey    Waterfall/Rodgers     Maher    Glennon

                       Hunt            Green

                                Clifton

  Eisa                      Donovan               Vernam

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Think the ref might have an issue with that. I really like it but it is technically cheating.
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Jake Eastwood has signed
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I genuinely think Green stays, Holohan stays, they all stay now plus some additions because El General is using the swiss army knife plan where we have a variety of players to suit every occasion and some similar ones for redundancy in case of injury etc.

Still expecting a forward lump and a midfield lump to fight fire with fire when required, plus a RB so there's 2 players for every defensive position, and 1 keeper.  Then a couple of random young un's on loan from higher up to bulk the squad out.
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Jake Eastwood has signed

For who?
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I've heard of using the 12th man, but I always thought that referred to the crowd....


I’ll never moan about Hurst’s team selection again. Impossible job. I’d need the data analysts to help me count to 11 ffs
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For who?


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I’d be disappointed with Eastwood
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I’d be disappointed with Eastwood


Not seen a goalkeeper mentioned yet that seems a clear upgrade on Crocombe..
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I couldn't possibly say i'd be disappointed with Eastwood, seen as our last keeper turned out ok and had hardly had a glittering career before coming to us via Australia.

If Hurst has signed him twice before, he obviously really rate him, so i trust him. And if Sheff United have seen fit to keep him on their books for this long, that must also be a good sign.


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I’d be disappointed with Eastwood


Does this mean we were in for someone better ?


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I couldn't possibly say i'd be disappointed with Eastwood, seen as our last keeper turned out ok and had hardly had a glittering career before coming to us via Australia.
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If Hurst has signed him twice before, he obviously really rate him, so i trust him. And if Sheff United have seen fit to keep him on their books for this long, that must also be a good sign.


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Does this mean we were in for someone better ?


No I don’t know if we were or not. It’s just that in about 6 games for Dale last season he made 3 or 4 big errors leading to goals. I’ll give him a chance as I do every signing, but I hoped for a little better tbh. I can’t fault any of our other business so far though.
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So who will be first choice keeper, presuming that Cartwright signs on loan?
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Not seen a goalkeeper mentioned yet that seems a clear upgrade on Crocombe..


Kieran O’Hara, the goalkeeper linked via a grainy, low resolution photo, is perhaps the most intriguing one mentioned so far.

A funny couple of seasons, most recently having been released by Colchester after 31 appearances, but prior to that has played a lot of League One Football and has two full Ireland caps. He was on Manchester United’s books as recently as 2020, so his pedigree certainly looks good.

No idea whether the photo was of him, but he sounds like someone with a decent level of ability.


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Sheff United kept Eastwood around til he was 26 so just have something about him and I seem to remember him doing ok here last time. All keepers have abit of a dodgy phase.

Will give him and Hurst benefit of the doubt and wait and see. Neither excites or disappoints me to be honest though - which isn’t unusual for GK’s!


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I’d be disappointed with Eastwood


Breaking it down,

I agree with you, Eastwood did okay without really pulling up any trees when he was here last, I think if we end up with Eastwood and Cartwright, there is still a degree of inexperience with them both, and Eastwood will be 27 years old in October, he's seven years into his career and has only played for Sheffield United three times in all competitions, he's also been loaned out eleven times, 68 of his 105 League appearances were for Sheffield FC, Gainsborough Trinity and Mickleover Sports. Not saying for a second he would be a bad signing, but I don't think he's an improvement on Crocombe in anyway.

Cartwright has played 3 times for Hull, once in the League but all in all has only made 23 senior league starts, 20 of which came for Gainsborough and Barton Town. Young keeper who will benefit for a loan with us (if it happens for sure) but can't help the feeling that with all the fees we've been paying, it would be a little underwhelming to head into the new season with these two as our keepers.

Lets see what the next week or two brings us.



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So if the grainy photo turns out to be O'Hara, and we have allegedly signed Eastwood then maybe Cartwright isnt signing if they couldnt give Hull the promise of first team football.

To quote Winston Churchill........this is like a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

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Needs to be an upgrade on Max for me. Cartwright to be challenging for the #1 spot I wouldn’t grumble at but I think that Eastwood would be a downgrade on Max… One area where I think there are a lot of good options on the free agent market currently.
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There’s a boring transfer saga every window and it appears that our keeper hunt is this summer’s one.
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Breaking it down,

I agree with you, Eastwood did okay without really pulling up any trees when he was here last, I think if we end up with Eastwood and Cartwright, there is still a degree of inexperience with them both, and Eastwood will be 27 years old in October, he's seven years into his career and has only played for Sheffield United three times in all competitions, he's also been loaned out eleven times, 68 of his 105 League appearances were for Sheffield FC, Gainsborough Trinity and Mickleover Sports. Not saying for a second he would be a bad signing, but I don't think he's an improvement on Crocombe in anyway.

Cartwright has played 3 times for Hull, once in the League but all in all has only made 23 senior league starts, 20 of which came for Gainsborough and Barton Town. Young keeper who will benefit for a loan with us (if it happens for sure) but can't help the feeling that with all the fees we've been paying, it would be a little underwhelming to head into the new season with these two as our keepers.

Lets see what the next week or two brings us.



To add something else to that breakdown.  The aforementioned Crocombe had 33 appearances at Buckingham Town as the most he had played for anyone before rocking up at Blundell Park.  You take away the 31 games for Salford and it's a pretty dismal CV prior to signing for us, even then they all came in the Conf. North.  25 games for Southport in the Conf. is his best stab at consistency.

Also just shy of 27 when he signed for us.
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There’s a boring transfer saga every window and it appears that our keeper hunt is this summer’s one.


Nah, Alex is waaay to small to go in goal.  
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Surely zero chance we start the season with 2 inexperienced league two keepers. Especially 2 loans which leaves us at the mercy of parent clubs
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I don’t see the issue with Eastwood, I thought he did fairly well here last time and was a definite improvement on Mckeown at the time.

Also important to remember we need two keepers, if the other is indeed Cartwright then it’ll be an interesting battle for #1 this season
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Also see a lot of ‘not as good as Crocombe’ about. Are we letting nostalgia cloud our memory abit here, I liked Max a lot but he wasn’t anything more than ok at this levels


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Eastwood must have something about him or Sheffield Utd would have got rid years ago.


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To add something else to that breakdown.  The aforementioned Crocombe had 33 appearances at Buckingham Town as the most he had played for anyone before rocking up at Blundell Park.  You take away the 31 games for Salford and it's a pretty dismal CV prior to signing for us, even then they all came in the Conf. North.  25 games for Southport in the Conf. is his best stab at consistency.

Also just shy of 27 when he signed for us.



But he was an international footballer with NZ, had played in the A-League with Brisbane and Melbourne Victory and at the time we signed him he was coming in as a back-up keeper to Macca when we were a Non-League side ourselves.

And if we are comparing we don’t have to take away the Salford spell as it was successful.

So all in all he was a solid addition at the time we needed him and obviously went on to take his chance well.


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I do wonder if there’s a couple of keepers that are training with Town on trial, rather than signing. Hence why there’s been no announcement on a signing yet.
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My vague memory of Eastwood was that he was good?
Obviously his lack of game time and being slated by a recently relegated team isn't a good look, but I'd be intrigued if he signs, and if it's a permanent deal
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A goalkeeper who has played 40 games in six seasons can't be judged. He needs a run of games now, he's 26 so his development is stunted by too few games. I would suggest however he needs a permanent move. He needs a home where he can develop and play regularly.
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But he was an international footballer with NZ, had played in the A-League with Brisbane and Melbourne Victory and at the time we signed him he was coming in as a back-up keeper to Macca when we were a Non-League side ourselves.

And if we are comparing we don’t have to take away the Salford spell as it was successful.

So all in all he was a solid addition at the time we needed him and obviously went on to take his chance well.


I think you're over egging Crocombe's C.V. a bit to be honest there. Eastwood has had his contract renewed at Premier League and Championship level. OK, he's not made the first team but they must have continually seen something in him.

We've also had the benefit of seeing him and he was OK, in a really excrement team.  

I wasn't necessarily comparing him to anyone, more pointing out that Crocombe didn't have a stellar C.V. and turned out pretty good still.

That he, or Crocombe, have/had so few games under their belt doesn't concern me. I think it's quite common for goalkeepers simply down to the fact that there's only one slot available in the team and they generally get dropped/injured less than outfield players. Therefore opportunities are less.

I think he'll be a good signing.
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Anyone that seems to have forgot how Eastwood was reviewed when here last time, might be worth searching for his mentions on here - generally most was happy and a lot of talk about liking to see him come back (granted that would have been as an NL keeper)

A few completely random things I picked out, there are of course a few less convinced - but generally he was quite well regarded.

“The young lad Eastwood last year showed the difference in class between those who will actively claim a cross, and those who wait for the perfect cross to claim.”

“I’d keep Eastwood but no chance he’d come with us”

“Eastwood better than Mckeown”

“You forgot to mention Matete or Eastwood or Coke or John-Lewis or Menayese, who were all successful.”

“Although McKeown is contracted we need better, would like to see if Eastwood would come back?”

“Not a chance he will get a league one gigg more than good enough”

“eastwood - best of the 4 keepers we've had by far”


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Orsi won't be a town player next season...
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It's difficult to judge a goalkeeper in a bad team .

So although I would be a little underwhelmed with Eastwood , i'm sure he would do a lot better with a solid back 4 in front of him.

I must say though , with the ease in which our Paul let Crocombe go I expected him to have a top notch replacement for league 2 lined up - i guess we will see if he has .
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Orsi won't be a town player next season...


Released or a move lined up ?
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Orsi won't be a town player next season...


Wouldn't surprise me. We seem top heavy with strikers now, which is a complete opposite to last season.
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Got the feeling that Hurst isn't sure about the keeper position and maybe we will end up with someone not mentioned yet.. always rated Ryan Boot of Solihull who's a free agent but think last season he was a bit in/out the team.
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Got the feeling that Hurst isn't sure about the keeper position and maybe we will end up with someone not mentioned yet.. always rated Ryan Boot of Solihull who's a free agent but think last season he was a bit in/out the team.


Thought he was excellent against us in the league games
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Got the feeling that Hurst isn't sure about the keeper position and maybe we will end up with someone not mentioned yet.. always rated Ryan Boot of Solihull who's a free agent but think last season he was a bit in/out the team.


I was thinking the same as a player no one has mentioned like Luke McGee, harry Burgoyne or Johnathan Mitchell


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Wouldn't surprise me. We seem top heavy with strikers now, which is a complete opposite to last season.


4 players for 9 and 10 doesn’t seem top heavy, unless you do compare to most of last season when we had a series of failed or largely sick note loanees until Lloyd joined. Then we had Lloyd, Orsi, a somewhat off-form McAtee and a post-serious injury Taylor. If Orsi leaves he’d need replacing and preferably not with a loanee, unless it’s a really good one.
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Orsi won't be a town player next season...


Is that just because hes in has last year of his contract?

If it is that obvious then there are several more who will likely not be here NEXT season either
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Is that just because hes in has last year of his contract?

If it is that obvious then there are several more who will likely not be here NEXT season either


It was obvious what I meant....
He's played his last game for us, hope this helps.

Also Eastwood is training with us, but not signed.
I'm assuming Sheff Utd have basically allowed him to come on 'trial'
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At this level keepers tend to be much of a muchness - any standout keepers move on quickly, and those that stay at this level are heavily influenced by confidence and consistency.

You see it all the time, keepers will be regarded as absolute junk somewhere then turn into Gordon Banks at their next club. We had it with Mildenhall coming from Notts County. Paul Farman looked shocking at Lincoln but has had a good career at this level for many years. I can remember Crocombe getting slated by a few when he first came in but once he settled he had a really good 12 months before tailing off a bit.

Can remember years ago someone who’d played in goal for town stiffs or youth team telling me “when you’re confident, the ball looks like a beach ball. When you’re not, it looks like a golf ball”.

No need to make any judgements on any keeper until they’ve signed and get a decent run, I just hope they’re given the right backing and support whoever it is.  
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Orsi won't be a town player next season...


wouldn't surprise me - hearing stuff that indicates he may go out on loan
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see him back in the London area to be honest. I like Orsi, think a lot of his good stuff last year was undervalued and he deserved more of a chance in the league but he’s clearly gone down the pecking order a little.


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Quoted from TwoLeftFeet
Got the feeling that Hurst isn't sure about the keeper position and maybe we will end up with someone not mentioned yet.. always rated Ryan Boot of Solihull who's a free agent but think last season he was a bit in/out the team.


Playing a rush goalie this season
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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
Orsi won't be a town player next season...


Gotta say, that's my feelings too, shame because with the right service he scores goals, but don't think its worked out the way Hurst had hoped tbh.
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The thing is with Orsi, is that he looks like quite a decent finisher but you'd have to be playing a system with 2 strikers to be able to play him from the start. I know he's had a few games as the lone striker, mainly in the cup games, but in a 433/4231/4141 he doesn't really have enough to his game to bring enough to the table as that no.9.

If that's PH's thinking, I understand and agree. We're not some top team that can have a striker who will score a few goals but not contribute to the overall performance or help others score as well.

I'm not saying I'd totally be against us keeping him on, as there'll be times when we're chasing a game and want to throw on a second striker, but if we're not going to be playing a system with 2 strikers (which I don't think we will), then I couldn't argue with letting someone go who's not realistically going to start any games.


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The thing is with Orsi, is that he looks like quite a decent finisher but you'd have to be playing a system with 2 strikers to be able to play him from the start. I know he's had a few games as the lone striker, mainly in the cup games, but in a 433/4231/4141 he doesn't really have enough to his game to bring enough to the table as that no.9.

If that's PH's thinking, I understand and agree. We're not some top team that can have a striker who will score a few goals but not contribute to the overall performance or help others score as well.

I'm not saying I'd totally be against us keeping him on, as there'll be times when we're chasing a game and want to throw on a second striker, but if we're not going to be playing a system with 2 strikers (which I don't think we will), then I couldn't argue with letting someone go who's not realistically going to start any games.


Agree Tommy

Great thaughts

Still think we need a point of difference up top , some might laugh it off - but I would not be totally against bringing Mani back , or another one of that type that adds the 'wildcard' factor especially off the bench.
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The thing is with Orsi, is that he looks like quite a decent finisher but you'd have to be playing a system with 2 strikers to be able to play him from the start. I know he's had a few games as the lone striker, mainly in the cup games, but in a 433/4231/4141 he doesn't really have enough to his game to bring enough to the table as that no.9.



Good post Tommy.  

I actually think Orsi would be capable as the lone striker, in the right system and with the right support around him.  Back end of last season when he and Lloyd get their fleeting chances together, Orsi was the 9 with Lloyd as the 10.  They seemed to have some sort of understanding in that.

If it's the lone striker in the way that Taylor or McAtee were deployed for large parts of last season, forget it.  Even in the cup games we had a packed central midfield that pushed really high, Clifton and Holohan I think.  

I think we're going with 4-2-3-1.  Vernam, Eisa and Khan (possibly A.N Other) competing for the wide slots.  Probably Rose as the striker at the minute and then that advanced midfield role is the one that's the debatable one.  Hurst loves to keep shape and discipline, with Vernam and Eisa definitely there to attack rather than defend I suspect he'll go with Clifton or Holohan. Yes there's injuries, suspensions, form, rotation and all that.  But that leaves the Wilson and Pyke waiting on the bench.

It's just how I'm seeing it, but I just can't see Orsi in Hurst's plans.  Shame as I do like the lad and think he has got something about him, also would really benefit from a bit of a more attacking style.  I don't believe he's ever really played as a No 9 before yet did really well when asked to do so last season. No room for sentiment though...
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The thing is with Orsi, is that he looks like quite a decent finisher but you'd have to be playing a system with 2 strikers to be able to play him from the start. I know he's had a few games as the lone striker, mainly in the cup games, but in a 433/4231/4141 he doesn't really have enough to his game to bring enough to the table as that no.9.

If that's PH's thinking, I understand and agree. We're not some top team that can have a striker who will score a few goals but not contribute to the overall performance or help others score as well.

I'm not saying I'd totally be against us keeping him on, as there'll be times when we're chasing a game and want to throw on a second striker, but if we're not going to be playing a system with 2 strikers (which I don't think we will), then I couldn't argue with letting someone go who's not realistically going to start any games.


thank you Tommy, thank you. I've been saying this since day 1. That's when he's at his most effective , just look at his time at maidenhead n his best spell with harrogate was when he played alongside a big lump.


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impressed at Torquay last season  https://torquaytalk.com/2022/10/19/new-gulls-profiles-okoli-de-silva-by-matty-hayward/

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We still in the market for a centre half?
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Quoted from forza ivano


thank you Tommy, thank you. I've been saying this since day 1. That's when he's at his most effective , just look at his time at maidenhead n his best spell with harrogate was when he played alongside a big lump.



Yep it's a shame we've not seen Orsi in that role in a two. Sutton have just signed Harry Smith, could be a shrewd pickup for them perhaps?

On the formation/potential lone striker situation, I've seen a lot of people saying Rose and two wingers...is that a feasible option? I'm not so sure going off what I've seen/remember of Rose. I think he's another that needs a partner perhaps? Stevenage played two up top for most of the season, I seem to recall. I'm a bit confused about what Hurst is planning for next season. I think it's quite likely that we'll see a fair amount of tinkering and chopping and changing to try and nullify our opponents.
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Quoted from Son of Cod

Yep it's a shame we've not seen Orsi in that role in a two. Sutton have just signed Harry Smith, could be a shrewd pickup for them perhaps?

On the formation/potential lone striker situation, I've seen a lot of people saying Rose and two wingers...is that a feasible option? I'm not so sure going off what I've seen/remember of Rose. I think he's another that needs a partner perhaps? Stevenage played two up top for most of the season, I seem to recall. I'm a bit confused about what Hurst is planning for next season. I think it's quite likely that we'll see a fair amount of tinkering and chopping and changing to try and nullify our opponents.


I can't say I really follow other teams in the League in terms of how they play and formations etc but with the club utilising the Twenty One Group (please correct me if I've muddled that up a little) alongside Gareth Jennings and Joe Hutchinson and all the data that goes into looking not only at players but the squad composition and make-up of teams that have been promoted, it might not be unsurprising if Hurst goes against what we've known of his previous preferences formation wise and is constructing a squad to meet some new tactical ideas.
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Last season Hurst had to play to match what players he had at his disposal. This season he can get players to fit into how he would like to play. Expect a completely different style to what we are use to.
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Last season Hurst had to play to match what players he had at his disposal. This season he can get players to fit into how he would like to play. Expect a completely different style to what we are use to.


100%.

I'm genuinely really excited to see what style we produce this season.

Every other season under Hurst I've never felt he's been able to get in the players he really wanted and/or to suit what he wants to produce.

First spell in the Conference, it was always a case of getting players in with the intent of getting promotion.  Not pretty, not really long-term thinking, just a case of get us out of that flipping league.  Players like Andy Monkhouse, brought in absolutely to do a job.  Not gonna be here in 2 years, not gonna base a philosophy around it but it might just get us over the line.

2016.  Mentioned to death but we all know the budget was excrement, Hurst was dipping in the bargain basement and he set about building a functional side (again).  No disrespect to him but that Danny Collins was the best signing we made in that period says everything.  Probably an argument for Danny Andrew actually but we got him because of his knee injuries, not because we beat other teams to his signature.  

2020 - LJL and Coke from Hereford in the Conf. North, Lamy from god knows where, Habergham from his armchair....
2021 - See first spell, albeit probably with a bit of a better budget.  It's no secret we exceeded expectations and I think a lot of those signings were brought in with a view to making us competitive at Conference level, not a side that would go up first time of asking and then be competitive in League Two.  Starting to see a bit of the philosophy and approach maybe, but still a bit of stop-gapping going on.
2022 - Just didn't have the time to do it.  Too short a window after the play-off final.

No doubt, he's not removed from criticism within his signings and what he's done with them.  I think everyone has something they could point out they would have done better.  But this feels different.  Even down to how quickly we've done good business.

Just watch us go with long and aimless punts up to an isolated Danny Rose, who bemoans the fact that the 8-man defence don't get up to support him quickly enough...
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Orsi won't be a town player next season...


5 X's on this....

I very very really post 'rumours' on here, but along with Bennett being off despite most saying it's done, surely has me towards the top of that league ...
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Come on mate, you need to be giving better details than that to pull in the BIG POINTS
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I also agree that we're due a few going out.  

I'm gonna guess on Orsi and Green.

Orsi just doesn't look fancied at all by Hurst and his comments yesterday about having three proper centre forwards now just seemed to be a bit of a nod towards the fact that he doesn't see him as part of his plans.

Green, dunno why just got a feeling.


Surely this pulls in some points.

Educated guess, stab in the dark or genuinely informed... They all count, no?  
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Come on mate, you need to be giving better details than that to pull in the BIG POINTS


Didn't know where he had gone, just that he had gone
I posted yesterday, then announced 24hrs later, wasn't a random guess
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Sad to see Orsi go. God loves a tryer - and I think he endured himself to the fans for that very reason. But for me not totally unexpected. If we are to challenge at the top we need better - and hopefully we have it this season.
Pleased though he has got fixed up - and I think if he gets a settled run of games he will do ok.
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massive centre half n possibly defensive midfielder


Torquay got relegated to National League South. Just saying.
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Didn't know where he had gone, just that he had gone
I posted yesterday, then announced 24hrs later, wasn't a random guess


Sorry mate, I don’t make the rules!
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Sorry mate, I don’t make the rules!


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Adam Przybek?!


Gesundheit


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Come on mate, you need to be giving better details than that to pull in the BIG POINTS


Don't give him any points. I posted on another thread on 10th May (or whatever day the retained list was released) that Orsi would be allowed to leave and the reason why.

Probably for the best given the state of his back following the horrific injury he suffered in March.
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Someone mentioned we were trying to offload him in Jan and Bromley were in for him. Whoever that was, they get the points.
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Someone mentioned we were trying to offload him in Jan and Bromley were in for him. Whoever that was, they get the points.




Hashtag utd were after Declan Rice in January, but looks like they've lost out to Arsenal in the summer
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Yeah pretty sure the Crawley rumour had been bubbling a way for a day or two. Plus he wasn’t at preseason training Monday which was abit of a clue.


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Doubt we’ll have a keeper signed before Tuesday, think it’ll be two trialist goalkeepers, one being Eastwood. Cartwright is due to head to Turkey with Hull on Sunday.
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Someone mentioned we were trying to offload him in Jan and Bromley were in for him. Whoever that was, they get the points.


I agree, they need the points...

I'm guessing they were deducted 20 points for suggesting a Todd Boehly formation the other day?
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Doubt we’ll have a keeper signed before Tuesday, think it’ll be two trialist goalkeepers, one being Eastwood. Cartwright is due to head to Turkey with Hull on Sunday.


How about some big meathead up front?


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How about some big meathead up front?


Matt Rhead?


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Matt Rhead?


Legs have gone to the pub.


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Legs have gone to the pub.


Belly's already in the kebab shop.


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Matt Rhead?



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Doubt we’ll have a keeper signed before Tuesday, think it’ll be two trialist goalkeepers, one being Eastwood. Cartwright is due to head to Turkey with Hull on Sunday.


Are we saying Cartwright hasn’t signed at all then?
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Are we expecting anything today then ?
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Are we saying Cartwright hasn’t signed at all then?


Not yet, but he should do when Hull get back from Turkey. Think the hold up is that Hull want to sign another keeper first before letting him leave.
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Not yet, but he should do when Hull get back from Turkey. Think the hold up is that Hull want to sign another keeper first before letting him leave.


yes, he's had to go to Turkey on tour (what a bummmer!) coz they are still trying to get Tom Heaton (or possibly Darlow) over the line

It's hardly the end of the world if we play 1 or 2 friendlies with an under 18 in goal
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June 30, 2023, 9:29am
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Quoted from forza ivano


yes, he's had to go to Turkey on tour (what a bummmer!) coz they are still trying to get Tom Heaton (or possibly Darlow) over the line

It's hardly the end of the world if we play 1 or 2 friendlies with an under 18 in goal


Rumour is Pearson was in sport direct looking at gloves yesterday.....
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Rumour is Pearson was in sport direct looking at gloves yesterday.....


Keepers can go on playing well into their later 30s. A second career awaits...
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Are we expecting an early signing today, to tempt any remaining stragglers, for the early bird season tickets? Wondered if the club had something lurking in the closet for a big reveal?
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Are we expecting an early signing today, to tempt any remaining stragglers, for the early bird season tickets? Wondered if the club had something lurking in the closet for a big reveal?


Surely the best time for that strategy would have been yesterday? See very few making an impulse/last minute decision today as people are at work or have plans already today. I'd also be sceptical of if that would actually work, how many would be swayed by a signing unless it was a ridiculously big one?


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June 30th so lots of contracts expiring, you'd hope that and the early bird ending would lead to some sort of news.
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Payday for a lot of people today.
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If I were the club I’d finish sales at 4pm, then announce a huge, earth-shattering signing at 5pm and then extend the early bird for another week.

Quite simple really.
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If I were the club I’d finish sales at 4pm, then announce a huge, earth-shattering signing at 5pm and then extend the early bird for another week.

Quite simple really.


Next week will be relocation week for those that have bought in the overflows. So announce the big signing a week today with the early bird extension for maybe 3 days the following week. With the numbers announced I suspect it won’t be necessary though.
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I’m told Kieran Green is signing for York
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I hope not, Think Green is decent and should improve after a years experience at League 2 level
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Quoted from ska face
If I were the club I’d finish sales at 4pm, then announce a huge, earth-shattering signing at 5pm and then extend the early bird for another week.

Quite simple really.


Harry Kane should do the trick.


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If true, Green to York would sound very much that being our decision. Wonder if PH tempted by Craig Clay who’s done a very good job for him before and only 31. Other than Holohan we miss abit of experience in the middle of the park.


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If true, Green to York would sound very much that being our decision. Wonder if PH tempted by Craig Clay who’s done a very good job for him before and only 31. Other than Holohan we miss abit of experience in the middle of the park.


You mean Craig Clay that’s signed for Sutton?
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If true, Green to York would sound very much that being our decision. Wonder if PH tempted by Craig Clay who’s done a very good job for him before and only 31. Other than Holohan we miss abit of experience in the middle of the park.


Clay’s off to Sutton, I believe.


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You mean Craig Clay that’s signed for Sutton?


I mean the Craig Clay that looks to be rumoured to be signing for them.. Unless Sutton have forgotten to announce of course…


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I’m told Kieran Green is signing for York


You may be right - but I doubt it.
PH was particularly keen on him & paid a fee to Halifax.
He has another year left on his contract so he won't be going anywhere for free.
Hay ho I could of course be wrong.
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York have new owners this week who are considered to be “heavily wedged and spunking it all over”. Hope we’ve got a good fee for him if it’s true.  

Think Green was coming in from the northeast with Morris everyday, maybe he didn’t fancy the drive alone.
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If the Green story is true, we’d definitely need another midfield illegitimate to replace him.


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You may be right - but I doubt it.
PH was particularly keen on him & paid a fee to Halifax.
He has another year left on his contract so he won't be going anywhere for free.
Hay ho I could of course be wrong.


Told they’ve let Olly Dyson go to Sunderland and Kieran Green is the replacement, apparently both done but we’ll see
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Green was at training today
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Some York fans seemed to think he was at the ground earlier today and that seems to have started the rumours. I think it’s a case of mistaken identity.
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Some York fans seemed to think he was at the ground earlier today and that seems to have started the rumours. I think it’s a case of mistaken identity.


Apparently looks very similar to another player they are in for - poor sodomist!  


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Apparently looks very similar to another player they are in for - poor sodomist!  


Not a surprise, as Cyberdyne Systems were very well known for creating many copies of their products.
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So Max jumps up to L1 and signs for Burton
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So Max jumps up to L1 and signs for Burton


and on a 2 year deal. I do wonder if Burton is within commuting distance for Max. Had assumed he lived london way, but given his early career was Buckingham/oxford I wonder if he lives round my way, so Burton might be c. an hours drive . If so he wins in every way. Good luck to him, he's worked v.v.v hard n deserves his chance
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and on a 2 year deal. I do wonder if Burton is within commuting distance for Max. Had assumed he lived london way, but given his early career was Buckingham/oxford I wonder if he lives round my way, so Burton might be c. an hours drive . If so he wins in every way. Good luck to him, he's worked v.v.v hard n deserves his chance


We've lost the two biggest stars in my lifetime of watching Town; I don't recall any players that could perform on stage and screen like Crocombe or Orsi, their performances at Soton will surely get them a gong or two...

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Ryan Bennett saga nearly over then with his contract expired yesterday. Is he signing for Cambridge?!

Can’t help but think that this is definitely ‘one that got away’ - fairly sure he actually wanted to sign for us!
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I was told yesterday by someone in the know (!) that it’s purely down to £ .


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Sad really isn’t it? He’d be a massive upgrade on our Defence and that’s not taking anything away from our current crop either. Gutted about this!
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Undoubtedly a very good player, but I’d rather Hurst stuck to his £££ guns than cause unrest in the remaining squad.
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Undoubtedly a very good player, but I’d rather Hurst stuck to his £££ guns than cause unrest in the remaining squad.


So many assumptions in one sentence based on zero evidence..
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If Green leaves, I would like us to be in for Raikhy
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I'll be watching the socials. Could be a very interesting week coming up, now that so many players have officially been released and are without a club
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Raikhy has been released by Villa
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Quoted from Bigdog


So many assumptions in one sentence based on zero evidence..


Are you new here?
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Are you new here?


No, but I should know better..

Class response mate..
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#ATAW
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Are you new here?


Why would you assume that?


I blocked seeing red ticks years ago so go ahead   If I don't reply to you then i didn't read your replies  
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Raikhy has been released by Villa


And aromatherapy has been released by Boots.


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And aromatherapy has been released by Boots.


Holy Hell released by France national team
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This happened 4 days ago but as a keen follower of this thread I haven’t seen it mentioned. Harry Smith has signed for Sutton, so that’s one massive striker we won’t be signing and perhaps Sutton aren’t so keen to give up their status as tallest team in the land after all.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66046442.amp


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Bennett agreed a new deal with Cambridge according to Peter O’Rourke who is pretty much right about everything. So puts that one to bed.
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Has anyone heard that Harry Clifton has turned down an improved three year deal?
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Has anyone heard that Harry Clifton has turned down an improved three year deal?


Was told last night that Barnsley have shown a very keen interest
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Holy Hell released by France national team


Terry Waite released by the Hezbollah


Rose is on fire

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Absolutely gutted about Bennett as I’m convinced he wanted to come to GTFC. Massive wasted opportunity this one!!!

I think we’ve probably done our ‘main business’ now and we’ll be filling up with loans and youngsters now. Call me negative but I don’t think we’re going to be competing at the top end, unless there’s some stronger recruitment still to come.
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Absolutely gutted about Bennett as I’m convinced he wanted to come to GTFC. Massive wasted opportunity this one!!!

I think we’ve probably done our ‘main business’ now and we’ll be filling up with loans and youngsters now. Call me negative but I don’t think we’re going to be competing at the top end, unless there’s some stronger recruitment still to come.


I bloody hope not.

We don’t have a keeper!


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I bloody hope not.

We don’t have a keeper!


My thought exactly. Do we have AN Other or A Trialist in goal for Tuesday night's match?



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Absolutely gutted about Bennett as I’m convinced he wanted to come to GTFC. Massive wasted opportunity this one!!!

I think we’ve probably done our ‘main business’ now and we’ll be filling up with loans and youngsters now. Call me negative but I don’t think we’re going to be competing at the top end, unless there’s some stronger recruitment still to come.


If Bennett wanted to come, he would have. He’s had plenty of opportunity, seems like he wanted us to keep bending over for him - he can bøllocks as far as I’m concerned.
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Quoted from ska face


If Bennett wanted to come, he would have. He’s had plenty of opportunity, seems like he wanted us to keep bending over for him - he can bøllocks as far as I’m concerned.


It’s over. Move on.
Should still have enough in the kitty for 2-3 more quality players
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As has been touched on by others previously, 26 year old Harvey Rodgers on a 3-year deal looks to be a superior long-term package than 33-year old Ryan Bennett for a year or two at most. That’s not to detract from Bennett’s obvious pedigree; he’d have been a very good player at this level, but he’s not coming, he won’t be playing in our division and we have strong options in that area anyway.

Time to respectfully move on, I think.


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I have no idea what the Bennett situation is/was and even if we were ever seriously in for him or not, but if it was about breaking the wage structure to sign him, then better to let it go and move on.

PH likes team unity and that's how it should be.
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Was told last night that Barnsley have shown a very keen interest


They even got a manager at the minute?
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I have no idea what the Bennett situation is/was and even if we were ever seriously in for him or not, but if it was about breaking the wage structure to sign him, then better to let it go and move on.

PH likes team unity and that's how it should be.


That's sbout 10 of us on here looking like donuts regarding Bennett , was sure it was all but done .

Obviously nothing is done until it's done .

Wondering whether he played us a bit maybe ?
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They even got a manager at the minute?


You’re assuming that Barnsley’s head coach decides who they sign.
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You’re assuming that Barnsley’s head coach decides who they sign.


I am, yes. I’m not entirely au fait with these fancy modern management structures.
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You’re assuming that Barnsley’s head coach decides who they sign.


Isn’t that we’re Darren Moore is likely to turn up and, if so, I think he was keen on Clifton going to Sheff Wed.
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Chris Wilder is favourite isn’t he?
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Absolute joke we missed out on Bennett. He doesn’t need the money, he lives and started his career here. Why would he not want to sign?
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At the end of the day it's Hurst's decision  if he decides he doesn't want him that's it, end of. He will have his reasons but he is the one that gets paid to manage the team so let us respect his decision
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Absolute joke we missed out on Bennett. He doesn’t need the money, he lives and started his career here. Why would he not want to sign?


Because he wanted to be paid more and play at a higher level during the remaining few years of his career? It's perfectly understandable he would return to Cambridge if we weren't willing to break our wage structure to sign him.
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Absolute joke we missed out on Bennett. He doesn’t need the money, he lives and started his career here. Why would he not want to sign?


Because this is his job. I don't get why football fans seem to think the players should act like fans and do something out of a sense of nostalgia or fandom that makes no sense for their career. It's like you turning around and going back to your first job flipping burgers for minimum wage, taking a massive pay cut because of your happy memories. It just doesn't happen.  
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Incredible that Bennett's not nostalgic about playing in midfield with Paul Linwood behind him.


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Was told last night that Barnsley have shown a very keen interest


Show him the shirt he’ll be wearing at Barnsley next season and he’ll sign a new contract at town


Lower F5
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Alex Murphy from Newcstle. not definite but very close on loan i have heard
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Alex Murphy from Newcstle. not definite but very close on loan i have heard


I have a few mates from Newcastle as I went to Uni there, apparently highly rated within the club. Not made a competitive appearance for the first team but played a few friendlies over the winter and trains with the first team quite reguarly. Left sided centre half who's very good on the ball, they reckon he's about 6'2. Sounds like we'll be well stocked in the defensive department.
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Alex Murphy from Newcstle. not definite but very close on loan i have heard


Think you hinted at this one a couple of weeks back. Seems highly rated and was playing regular senior football in Ireland having just turned 17, which is no mean feat for a defender regardless of the standard.

Looks like he is, or at least was, more of a left-back than a centre-half. Perhaps even slightly Conor Townsend-esque in style too.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.u.....scelles-27071203.amp




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Sod all that

Mani has left Halifax

Bring him home ,as the impact sub /point of difference we need .

Maybe arr Paul has realised  how having one of that type around impacted things and has reached out ?

Bring Back Mani
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Sod all that

Mani has left Halifax

Bring him home ,as the impact sub /point of difference we need .

Maybe arr Paul has realised  how having one of that type around impacted things and has reached out ?

Bring Back Mani


Mani did not want to a bit part player, thats why he left.
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Sod all that

Mani has left Halifax

Bring him home ,as the impact sub /point of difference we need .

Maybe arr Paul has realised  how having one of that type around impacted things and has reached out ?

Bring Back Mani


Comments on the Halifax Facebook announcement seem to suggest he is Hartlepool bound.


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Would definitely have Mani back!
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Love Mani, wished we’d kept him but he wanted guaranteed football. He’s moved on and so should we, he was ok but I’d hope we’re in a better market at the moment to be honest.


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Here we go again, bring back a player that has played for us before. He wasn't deemed good enough so he was released he's been playing non league football but has been released. Does anybody actually think we should re sign him?
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I have no idea what the Bennett situation is/was and even if we were ever seriously in for him or not, but if it was about breaking the wage structure to sign him, then better to let it go and move on.

PH likes team unity and that's how it should be.


Team unity is what got us promoted out of the NL. It's imperative to a club like ours.



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Monkeyboy has been spot on for transfers this year.. and seem to mention he did say something about a Newcastle loanee last week. Boy looks like he has good pedigree and is highly rated. I think would push both left backs for the starting position. Anyone heard anything more about Glennons potential interest?
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Quoted from mimma
Here we go again, bring back a player that has played for us before. He wasn't deemed good enough so he was released he's been playing non league football but has been released. Does anybody actually think we should re sign him?


He hasn’t been released by Halifax. He was offered a new contract but decided he did not want to stay.
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Lest we forget Mikey O'Neil is apparently very highly rated at Preston. The lad might be a star in the making but we should wait until we've seen him
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Lest we forget Mikey O'Neil is apparently very highly rated at Preston. The lad might be a star in the making but we should wait until we've seen him
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Wonder if town have left the door open for Josh Emmanuel to return. First week of pre-season and still not got fixed up. Rumours of going to peterborough have gone quiet.
Hopefully see a few signings from today as all last year contracts ended on Friday.
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Wonder if town have left the door open for Josh Emmanuel to return. First week of pre-season and still not got fixed up. Rumours of going to peterborough have gone quiet.
Hopefully see a few signings from today as all last year contracts ended on Friday.


I didn't think he was as good as a lot liked to make out, no better than the much maligned Efete
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Tweet 1675770476830883844 will appear here...
from the Mirror reporting that we’re signing Kamil Conteh from Boro, was on loan at Gateshead last season.
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Certainly seems highly rated…
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This one really does get the hairs oh your neck standing up! Hope it's true!


No longer Sick of the BlueSquare  
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I've never heard any club rate any player lowly, so let's bear that in mind.  
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I think it's fans of all National League clubs who vote for these awards. Would seem to indicate he's pretty good, unless he's got a very active personal fanbase willing to stack the vote in his favour!
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National league Young Player of the Year

Sounds a really good signing on paper
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Sounds impressive with a number of clubs after him after a quick search of his name on Twitter




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Any news on a keeper yet?


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8 Sierra Leone caps already according to Wiki, we're taking the clubs fan base worldwide!
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Quoted from Surrey97
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from the Mirror reporting that we’re signing Kamil Conteh from Boro, was on loan at Gateshead last season.


Would be a proper signing this.
If it goes well, he could also be an investment and make money on him, which lower down the leagues, is cruical.

I like the sound of this one a lot.
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We need Sierra Leone to play against Pakistan next season 😂
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Barnsley were interested in Kamil sounds high energy and a no risk young player on the up. I think could be the most exciting of the signings do far, most of the others are very good League 2 players. This lad could be something else
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I saw Murphy play several times for Galway United. He was only 17 at the time but he was streets ahead of other players on the field in terms of technical ability. The standard he was playing against wasn’t exceptional as Galway aren’t in the Premier Division (they will be back there next year) but it was clear that he wasn’t sticking around at that level for long, as was the case with Townsend.

He played at left back for Galway so I was interested to see he’s been CB for Newcastle.
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Quoted from OddShapedBalls
8 Sierra Leone caps already according to Wiki, we're taking the clubs fan base worldwide!


For context, Sierra Leone are ranked 121st in the world, versus Otis Khan’s Pakistan who rank 201st.

Admittedly, I hadn’t heard of the last until about half-an-hour ago, but from a quick scout on the internet there’s loads of positive stuff about him - he was also the Gateshead supporters player of the year last season on top of the divisional young player of the year. Appears to have been Gateshead’s lynch pin last season.

Tweet 1652412443300118537 will appear here...

Tweet 1665860796193157120 will appear here...



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Josh Emmanuel has gone to Peterborough I believe..
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Quoted from AdamHaddock
Any news on a keeper yet?


Cartwright and Eastwood. Cartwright joining up after Hull's tour.


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Nothing but praise for Conteh across Twitter including from opposition fans. Had never heard of him an hour ago but would now be gutted if we don't sign him.
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Would be hugely impressed with this. He is only 20 and was impressive in the NL and we know how tough it can be in midfield for young players in that league. But not just that, it seems we've won the race for a player like this. How often can we say that's happened in the past?

Stockwood and Petit showing real ambition this window. Money spent, longer contracts given and all for players in the right age bracket (no 34 year old journeymen!).

They deserve a massive bit of credit this summer.

I obviously caveat all that with 'If true'  


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Hopefully this and the Murphy siging come off, location being a help for a change. Maybe Conteh is something of a marquee signing and will coincide with the shirt unveiling.
Hopefully...maybe..could be quite a week for frayed nerves.
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Quoted from AdamHaddock
Any news on a keeper yet?


I've heard Chris Maxwell. Would be a great addition.


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Teeside live have said Conteh is joining us. There’s an article in their paper. No good at doing links


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For context, Sierra Leone are ranked 121st in the world, versus Otis Khan’s Pakistan who rank 201st.

Admittedly, I hadn’t heard of the last until about half-an-hour ago, but from a quick scout on the internet there’s loads of positive stuff about him - he was also the Gateshead supporters player of the year last season on top of the divisional young player of the year. Appears to have been Gateshead’s lynch pin last season.

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Similar age to Khouri and it would be interesting to see how they both compare to one another. Very promising signing this if it happens.

With Green rumoured to be signing for York last week, I would have thought Conteh still leaves Hurst in the market for an experienced CM.
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Conteh is very Matete esque, loves to drive with the ball and is all action. Would be massively impressed with this signing, has the physical presence of Green with the technical ability of Hunt.
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I still don’t think Green is going anywhere. Thought that one had been dismissed as mistaken identity.
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If we sign Conteh…

It would be the highest calibre signing we’ve made in a long time.


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I've heard Chris Maxwell. Would be a great addition.

I lived with Blackpool fans in the COVID season and the following season so I saw a fair amount of Maxwell. He's a quality keeper, I'm sure he'll be playing higher than L2 but I hope there's something to this rumour as he'd be great signing.
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I lived with Blackpool fans in the COVID season and the following season so I saw a fair amount of Maxwell. He's a quality keeper, I'm sure he'll be playing higher than L2 but I hope there's something to this rumour as he'd be great signing.


He was in goal for Wrexham that cold, cold day at Wembley 2013. Very, very good ‘keeper - almost 33 but would still surely be a class act at this level for two or three seasons to come.


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if we sign Maxwell which I doubt but then we'd have probably the best keeper in the division, even at 32 he's still probably a championship/top end league 1 level goalkeeper. Was in the L1 team of the year a couple years ago.
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Conteh is very Matete esque, loves to drive with the ball and is all action. Would be massively impressed with this signing, has the physical presence of Green with the technical ability of Hunt.


If we sign him and if he's got a bit of the Matete about him then that's an incredible bit of business.  I've said before, love Green to bits but if there's an option of someone who can do that enforcement type role and play a bit too then we should be all over it like a rash.

Just from the limited clips and reports, it looks like Conteh is capable of being an enforcer, can ping a pass about and then drive forward with the ball.  Those type of players are rare as intercourse at this level.  If, again it's all based on on that two letter word, this is the case then this is incredibly exciting!
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He was in goal for Wrexham that cold, cold day at Wembley 2013. Very, very good ‘keeper - almost 33 but would still surely be a class act at this level for two or three seasons to come.

So he was! That had completely passed me by. Didn't even realise he'd had a spell back there after leaving.
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If Conteh signs then you’d expect Green to be back up. Which given that Hurst gave him a three year contract last season is quite something. Hurst is absolutely ruthless in the name of progression and I’m all for it.
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4-2-3-1 with Hunt and Conteh as the two behind loads of pace and a nasty, aggressive striker sounds pretty handy to me.
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If Conteh signs then you’d expect Green to be back up. Which given that Hurst gave him a three year contract last season is quite something. Hurst is absolutely ruthless in the name of progression and I’m all for it.


He is, but was he always? I genuinely think he learned something after realising just how good Dean Henderson was in a Town shirt after Hurst had left the club - he had perhaps allowed his relationship with and loyalty to James McKeown cloud his judgement.

He wasn’t the least bit forgiving, second time around. The Hurst we have today is a very different animal to the one of seven years ago, imo.


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Gives us a lot of fluidity in the way we shape up in midfield aswell, the one area we massively struggled was when we played with a 2 as we just got over-run so had to combat that with playing 3 in there. Sounds like he's very comfortable sitting as a 4 or being an 8 and getting up and down.
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He is, but was he always? I genuinely think he learned something after realising just how good Dean Henderson was in a Town shirt after Hurst had left the club - he had perhaps allowed his relationship with and loyalty to James McKeown cloud his judgement.

He wasn’t the least bit forgiving, second time around. The Hurst we have today is a very different animal to the one of seven years ago, imo.


This. Paul Hurst Mk I was very loyal to the likes of McKeown but second time round he replaced him pretty quickly with Eastwood who got injured, then took the captaincy off him in the summer and wasn't afraid to replace him with Crocombe.

I think Hurst is now much less emotional with his decision-making.
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He is, but was he always? I genuinely think he learned something after realising just how good Dean Henderson was in a Town shirt after Hurst had left the club - he had perhaps allowed his relationship with and loyalty to James McKeown cloud his judgement.

He wasn’t the least bit forgiving, second time around. The Hurst we have today is a very different animal to the one of seven years ago, imo.


I think you're spot on. Possibly also able to be more ruthless if he thinks he's got the backing to definitely get improvements?
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I just hope Conteh gets done sharpish. Worst part of the window this, the time between something being rumoured/reported as done and the official announcement. Don’t want anyone changing their minds or other clubs swooping in before the contracts are signed.
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Conteh seems like a terrific signing if it happens, so will Maxwell but I fear with Maxwell we've got more chance of signing Lisa Maxwell
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Conteh seems like a terrific signing if it happens, so will Maxwell but I fear with Maxwell we've got more chance of signing Lisa Maxwell


Nah I seriously doubt she'd want a job as a goalkeeper for a L2 team.
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Conteh seems like a terrific signing if it happens, so will Maxwell but I fear with Maxwell we've got more chance of signing Lisa Maxwell


Would fit the bill etc


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If we do sign him it'll certainly be a signing that'll pack a punch!  


Good job majority of this board are old to understand who you are referring  to lol


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We are boxing clever if we get Conteh.  (Another comment for older spoots fans).
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Anyone think that Conteh might actually be a replacement for Clifton..?
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Anyone think that Conteh might actually be a replacement for Clifton..?


Not at all
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Not at all


Ok, thanks.
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Anyone think that Conteh might actually be a replacement for Clifton..?


Why jump to Clifton when we haven't replaced Morris? That said, he's in the last year of his contract and it'd be good to see him sign a new one
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Lots of transfer rumours kicking about regarding Clifton, just wondering aloud that’s all. Some have got to have some substance.
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Anyone think that Conteh might actually be a replacement for Clifton..?


Not sure, but even if that's the case, it could be a good move.
He's five years younger, looks very promising and personally, I would cash in on Harry now if the opportunity arises.

Say we sell Harry for £350k and buy Conteh for say £200k and he turns out to be something special, you would have to say that's a very good bit of business by the club.
At Contehs age, if he has a couple storming seasons for us, at 22, we could ask for potentially close to a mil. I don't ever think we will get that for Harry unfortunately.
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I just hope Conteh gets done sharpish. Worst part of the window this, the time between something being rumoured/reported as done and the official announcement. Don’t want anyone changing their minds or other clubs swooping in before the contracts are signed.


Could have already signed and the club are waiting for the right time to announce the signing.
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Could have already signed and the club are waiting for the right time to announce the signing.


Maybe they’ll post photos of him on the club Twitter account, one tiny piece at a time…


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Maybe they’ll post photos of him on the club Twitter account, one tiny piece at a time…


And no one will be able to see them all as we only get 600 posts, thanks Elon!


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And no one will be able to see them all as we only get 600 posts, thanks Elon!


Could be worse, if the club sign up to The Fishy to do a teasing kit reveal, they will be limited to 10 posts a day.
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Do we have a live updated table showing who we can trust at the beginning of July now that Bennett hasn't signed for us?

I seem to recall that lukeo nailed his colours to the mast with a bold assertion that Bennett wouldn't sign.
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Do we have a live updated table showing who we can trust at the beginning of July now that Bennett hasn't signed for us?

I seem to recall that lukeo nailed his colours to the mast with a bold assertion that Bennett wouldn't sign.


That for me is the equivalent of Scunny picking up a 1-0 win at home after they were relegated..
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Hull have just signed Scunnys keeper, I wonder if that opens the door for Cartwright to come in now
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Hull have just signed Scunnys keeper, I wonder if that opens the door for Cartwright to come in now


Pretty sure it’s already all sorted isn’t it. Only debate was if he goes on Hulls tour first.


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Pretty sure it’s already all sorted isn’t it. Only debate was if he goes on Hulls tour first.


No it was dependant on this but this has been signed up for at least a week.
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Anyone think that Conteh might actually be a replacement for Clifton..?


It certainly crossed my mind.
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Pretty sure it’s already all sorted isn’t it. Only debate was if he goes on Hulls tour first.


That’s a strange one for me,  why go on tour with Hull when he is going to be playing for us all this season.  Surely he would be better off going on tour with us and bonding and training with those he will be playing with for the season or
maybe  he’s not coming here after all.........
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That’s a strange one for me,  why go on tour with Hull when he is going to be playing for us all this season.  Surely he would be better off going on tour with us and bonding and training with those he will be playing with for the sason.  Maybe  he’s not coming here after all.........



Maybe he's getting two summer holidays?
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Andy Smith went on Hull's Turkey trip last summer and still signed on loan for us for the season when he came back, so it's not that unusual.


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My only query about this Conteh kid is why would ‘Boro let him go? Seems like he has real potential.
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Boro are attempting to get into the Premier League, our interpretation and understanding of serious talent/potential may be quite different to theirs.


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My only query about this Conteh kid is why would ‘Boro let him go? Seems like he has real potential.


Why did Chelsea let De Bruyne and Salah go?


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As expected / and I suppose unexpected by some, Ryan Bennett extension at Cambridge United confirmed.

Shame, but at least that's one rumour put to bed, we move on.

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My only query about this Conteh kid is why would ‘Boro let him go? Seems like he has real potential.


Probably because he’s a sellable asset who is very unlikely to get into their first team. I suspect that there’ll be a sell on clause as well.
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That’s a strange one for me,  why go on tour with Hull when he is going to be playing for us all this season.  Surely he would be better off going on tour with us and bonding and training with those he will be playing with for the season or
maybe  he’s not coming here after all.........


coz they didn't have a keeper signed in time, so the deal was that he goes on tour to Turkey, n then joins us a few days late upon his return
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Also he wanted to visit the Blue Mosque and pick up some fake pundit shoes.


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My only query about this Conteh kid is why would ‘Boro let him go? Seems like he has real potential.


Well they got him for nothing, and have let him go for a few apparently, however small - so profited. They’ve also bought someone else today in same position. However promising a player may be or look - maybe they can’t afford to wait? Big disappointment not going up last season - think they are in a position where they have too this time around.

That said, Conteh, if he comes - has potential, and well regarded - but shouldn’t burden the lad, after all he’s only had 30 games in the Conference, we’d be buying potential to profit down the line. Sensible and very much the way to go.


‘I just f*cking threw myself at it’

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coz they didn't have a keeper signed in time, so the deal was that he goes on tour to Turkey, n then joins us a few days late upon his return


Last thing I heard was that he was no 4 in the keeper list, did they sell the other 3?

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So it looks like Dallas has now mugged off Chesterfield (last minute) in favour of Oldham!! It’s all about the dollar with that lad, zero footballing ambition. Sounds like he has been proper messing them about!! (Sound a little familiar??!)
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We have Conteh. Great work, GTFC.
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Conte on a 3 year deal , welcome.
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This feels like a mega signing
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wow....


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This is a statement signing and on 3 years too. Am predicting this is the best signing yet this Summer
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Great signing on the face of things. Not the experienced midfielder I would have liked in the centre but if the reports are anything to go by then he should certainly improve us. Also gets us back to having two international players. Up the international mariners!
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Sounds great

Not fussed about Dallas going to Oldham. Don’t think he’s that good anyway
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There’s some proper rave reviews about this kid, could also say he’s proven in men’s football too….




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Feels like a great signing this. Solid transfer window this one. All of our signings are on good deals. Happy to have a turnover this window because we needed it if we were going to improve - but this one is very much about the future. This is the squad to represent us for the next 2/3 years without the need for constant overhaul and will be nice to connect with this group of players. Bags of potential with a nice smattering of experience. UTM
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Well they got him for nothing, and have let him go for a few apparently, however small - so profited. They’ve also bought someone else today in same position. However promising a player may be or look - maybe they can’t afford to wait? Big disappointment not going up last season - think they are in a position where they have too this time around.

That said, Conteh, if he comes - has potential, and well regarded - but shouldn’t burden the lad, after all he’s only had 30 games in the Conference, we’d be buying potential to profit down the line. Sensible and very much the way to go.


Delighted with the signing, slightly concerned about the expectation levels being expressed here though.

Let's give the youngster time to find his feet in L2.
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Quoted from chipsandgravy
Feels like a great signing this. Solid transfer window this one. All of our signings are on good deals. Happy to have a turnover this window because we needed it if we were going to improve - but this one is very much about the future. This is the squad to represent us for the next 2/3 years without the need for constant overhaul and will be nice to connect with this group of players. Bags of potential with a nice smattering of experience. UTM


Absolutely mate . The fans will connect with this team because they'll hopefully be here a while . I'm genuinely excited for this season. Top 7 is ours
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What an unbelievable summer.

Even if we miss out on the play-offs this year, the foundations are there for the following year.

PH and the owners have genuinely surpassed my expectations
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Looks a very good signing, this. I take a lot of confidence from the surety that is being shown by these fees and long-term deals. You get the impression we are attracting players at the top-end of our wish list.


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Hull just signed an 18yr old goalkeeper from Scunny.. I assume this opens up the door for the loan to be confirmed?
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This guy on twitter has been great to follow over the summer with his analysis, and just come out with this

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This is great, really ambitious. The jigsaw isn’t far from being finished now.
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Seems like a really ambitious signing as we are prepared to pay a fee for an investment in a young lad on a 3 Yr deal - really pleased with this one. Welcome Kamil.
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Sums up the vision the club now has, very exciting signing! Welcome to the club young man.


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Great signing. I think we can be really pleased with Hurst and the teams recruitment. Exciting season ahead!
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Fantastic signing based on the reports of him.
Hopefully he has a great couple of seasons here and we can extend or look to offload for a tidy profit.

Still think we are desperate for a main striker.
I know Hurst might be looking at a few player to hit single figure goals, but if the target is to try and sit in the playoffs as a minimum, we need to look to sign someone who has a realistic chance of scoring 10+ on their own aswell.
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Unreal to read headlines that
A) its a shock exit from a championship team
B) There was alot of competition and we beat them to him
C) weve paid a fee and given a 3 year contract to a highly rated young player

What a difference two years makes eh
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What everyone else said about Conteh. This could be massive. Very, very exciting.
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Think Hursty and his team along with the new owners have done us proud so far. Stockwood has always said its about improving year on year - and he hasn't let us down. Credit to them all.
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Seems like most of league 2 are starting to take notice of us now .

Cracking signing this ,well done to everyone

Can see him being a real fans favourite .
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Nice little international highlights package of him here. These showreels are what they are, but they give you an idea of what he’s about. Could certainly be the closest thing we’ve had to Jay Matete since he left.



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If we don’t have a cup run this coming season how on earth will we replicate these sorts of signings next year?!

Glad to see some investment.
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If we don’t have a cup run this coming season how on earth will we replicate these sorts of signings next year?!

Glad to see some investment.


We don't need to. There mostly on 2/3 year deals.
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Just had a look and boro fans seem genuinely surprised he's been let go and a fair few who, before it was announced it was us, assume it was Wrexham coming in with a relatively big money offer.

Ultimately it means nothing but its nice to be the surprise buying club for a change!
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Looking at all these positive signing the only I can say is The Only Way Is Up.

UTM


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We thinking a keeper announced today so they can start tonight?
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Nice little international highlights package of him here. These showreels are what they are, but they give you an idea of what he’s about. Could certainly be the closest thing we’ve had to Jay Matete since he left.



Looks a genuinely 2 footed player ,which is something most clubs at our level don't have , very technical but strong , he is going to make some of the meatheads in league 2 look very very silly (providing they don't wipe him out - dream ticket is Khouri keeps improving and we have one hell of an erray of options to choose from in there .

Over to Paul to find the right blend .
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Erray erray erray!
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Erray erray erray!
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I'm not very good at online football betting, can anyone recommend a site for me please?
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I see sky have us at 6-1 for promotion. Wonder when that came down!
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I see sky have us at 6-1 for promotion. Wonder when that came down!


I looked yesterday and the best I saw was 13/2


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The rumours regarding Clifton seem to be gathering pace a little bit, hoping we see him involved tonight.
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Are we ok to assume the rumours about Waterfall/Chesterfield have cooled, seeing as he was modelling the new shirts and will very likely figure tonight ??
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The rumours regarding Clifton seem to be gathering pace a little bit, hoping we see him involved tonight.


As i posted on Sunday, i was told Saturday that Barnsley have shown a very serious interest, but like you i hope its all cobblers
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Wouldn't blame Harry if he left and would wish him well but it would be a real blow.
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He's 25, I can see it's a now or never thing for him.
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Our best player last season, top scorer, one of the better players in the division, impressed against teams from higher division on numerous occasions, incredible engine, rarely injured, addressed the 'flaws' in his game (final output)...

Would be foolish to think we would get through the summer without avoiding serious interest, at the very least.  If he is going, let's take it as a compliment and a further advertisement that players can and will develop here.  

I'm a big Clifton fan but I said earlier this year that I could 22/23 as his final season with us, that's part of his and our development.  I also think Khouri really steps into his shoes and goes onto be better.  Again, that's part of our development. Every time someone leaves (be it our or their choice), it's about making sure that the next version is better.

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The rumours regarding Clifton seem to be gathering pace a little bit, hoping we see him involved tonight.


It has to be sorted this window for me. We either convince him to extend his deal, perhaps with a buy out clause, or we have to look to cash in on him.

Would love to have him here one more season, but I think it's important going forward we make money on our assets if they leave instead of them going for nothing.


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It has to be sorted this window for me. We either convince him to extend his deal, perhaps with a buy out clause, or we have to look to cash in on him.

Would love to have him here one more season, but I think it's important going forward we make money on our assets if they leave instead of them going for nothing. Wouldn't be sure Harry is quite ready for that level so always the possibility of a loan back which happens a lot these days, allow him to keep developing.


I’m not sure many clubs would sign a 25 year-old from the division below and loan him back for development. Either he’s good enough to make the step-up now or he isn’t (and for what it’s worth, I think he is).

9 goals from midfield in a middling side last season, on top of his physical attributes and work rate have to be an attractive proposition for an aspirational League One side. Question is, what is a Harry Clifton with one year on his contract worth? The consensus is that McAtee went for about £200k, though whilst he was younger and a forward, he was still relatively unproven in the league by this point. Realistically, somewhere between £200k and £300k seems about market value for Harry, though I’m sure some will disagree with that valuation.



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It has to be sorted this window for me. We either convince him to extend his deal, perhaps with a buy out clause, or we have to look to cash in on him.

Would love to have him here one more season, but I think it's important going forward we make money on our assets if they leave instead of them going for nothing.


I agree.

But there's a balance to it.  I've absolutely no idea what sort of money we would be looking at.  But unless we can re-invest that money into someone who can either equal or better the benefit Clifton brings then I think it might be worth gambling on keeping him here to see if he can help us to promotion.  

That's for Hurst to determine I guess as to if it's better to accept losing him for nothing and get the benefit of him this season or cash in.
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Gone with bet365 at 11-2. There are better odds but I find bet365 so easy to deal with
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Get him punted, take the money and bring in someone to firm up those semi’s.
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I’m not sure many clubs would sign a 25 year-old from the division below and loan him back for development. Either he’s good enough to make the step-up now or he isn’t (and for what it’s worth, I think he is).





Agree, which is why I removed that part shortly after posting - when the point that he's 25 and not 21 anymore dawned on me.


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I’m not sure many clubs would sign a 25 year-old from the division below and loan him back for development. Either he’s good enough to make the step-up now or he isn’t (and for what it’s worth, I think he is).

9 goals from midfield in a middling side last season, on top of his physical attributes and work rate have to be an attractive proposition for an aspirational League One side. Question is, what is a Harry Clifton with one year on his contract worth? The consensus is that McAtee went for about £200k, though whilst he was younger and a forward, he was still relatively unproven in the league by this point. Realistically, somewhere between £200k and £300k seems about market value for Harry, though I’m sure some will disagree with that valuation.


I'd guess ever so slightly lower somewhere in the £150k-250k region.
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Given that we have invested quite heavily, it wouldn't surprise me to see Harry leave to balance the books. The thing is, he doesn't seem to have a position as such and was regularly played wide last season. And wide is certainly where we've done a lot of recruitment!
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You can see why Clifton might be attractive to a League One side - the sheer workrate, the versatility to fit in anywhere across midfield when required and a knack for popping up with goals. Hopefully, that League One side will be us next season, but if he gets the chance of a step up now, you could understand it.

Barnsley, a decently-sized football club who are doing pretty well are a much more attractive prospect than FGR were last season, so he may have his head turned...
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Interesting to see Burton have just signed Jamal Blackman, another keeper briefly mentioned in passing as a possible available free agent on here and by GET a while back.

So absolutely no guarantee's that Max is going to be Burton's no.1 next season.


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I’d like to think we’re now in a position financially as a club to stand our ground and demand the fee we want, as opposed to just accepting whatever is offered. If the bid isn’t high enough, reject it.


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I hope Harry signs a new contract. Think it's fair to say he's better than this level though. Be great if he could make 500 appearances for us.
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Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner
Interesting to see Burton have just signed Jamal Blackman, another keeper briefly mentioned in passing as a possible available free agent on here and by GET a while back.

So absolutely no guarantee's that Max is going to be Burton's no.1 next season.


If Crocombe gets the No. 1 jersey from Blackman I'll be amazed.  That's a really good signing for Burton.
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I agree.

But there's a balance to it.  I've absolutely no idea what sort of money we would be looking at.  But unless we can re-invest that money into someone who can either equal or better the benefit Clifton brings then I think it might be worth gambling on keeping him here to see if he can help us to promotion.  

That's for Hurst to determine I guess as to if it's better to accept losing him for nothing and get the benefit of him this season or cash in.


I think he's already been replaced when you look at it, he was often deployed out wide as like an inside forward sort of role bridging the gap between defence and attack. It was very rare that he was actually played in central midfield. We know Charles is best off the left and Eisa is best off the right and then we have Otis who can play both sides. Harry is then fighting for a central spot with Conteh, Alex, Gav, Evan and Greeny. With the signing of Conteh, even if Harry was to leave I think we have some nice options in central midfield in terms of the dynamics.
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No one is not replaceable in any level of football, but Harry's sheer versatility and work rate at this level must be replicated, if we are not going to be hitting the January loan market for injuries and suspensions again.

What value is the cry of "One of our own !" to stir up the crowd?

The value of Harry telling Woods' youngsters and their parents what they could achieve like him and how Town is the right place to be nurtured and develop properly?

Surely worth keeping one gud'un we know thoroughly from before the new data regime?

The work has been done !
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The value of Harry telling Woods' youngsters and their parents what they could achieve like him and how Town is the right place to be nurtured and develop properly?


Surely it’s a better example to show that you can get a few hundred games under your belt at GTFC then move on to a bigger club, better prospects, more money etc. than just keeping people here until they’re running the commercial dept when they retire?
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What's the rules regarding how many home grown players you need in a squad nowadays? Khouri would count as 1 presumably as he was an academy product
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Surely it’s a better example to show that you can get a few hundred games under your belt at GTFC then move on to a bigger club, better prospects, more money etc. than just keeping people here until they’re running the commercial dept when they retire?


Work really hard son.. and you could be playing for Barnsley one day..
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Speaking of goalkeepers, it looks as though Christy Pym has all but completed a move to Mansfield. Was always likely to be headed there, but wouldn’t have minded seeming in a Town shirt.

Curious as to what transpires regarding a GK ahead of tonight’s game. Eastwood on trial seems to be the most likely sounding scenario I’ve heard, but it seems odd that the club would have waited until now to mention that he’s been training with us if that’s the case.


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Keeper incoming..
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Ah, there we go then…


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Who is it then, Eastwood, Cartwright or somebody totally different!
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Announcement at 2, the little tease!
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Work really hard son.. and you could be playing for Barnsley one day..


Better than the alternative

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Welcome back (I don’t think that refers to the fans or Shaun Pearson. That’ll be Eastwood then!
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It’s definitely Cartwright today, possibly Eastwood too. But the former won’t join up with the squad until next week.
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For those without twitter, or have read too many posts.....

Tweet 1676204227125813250 will appear here...


Great banter from Admin there  
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So who did Eastwood play for last?  Seen a few posts saying how bad he was.
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Am i top Ska? i said he'd signed last week  
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I lift share with a lad who’s good mates with him and he says he’s signing. Is that good enough?


These will be my first points in the rumour league. A bit more info: the signing was delayed because he Cartwright. Here all week.
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Am i top Ska? i said he'd signed last week  


monkeyboy top of the tree but Hagrid remains a giant in the world of rumours. Surrey heading south but still in with a shout, plenty of back-channel chat and still the possibility of big news in the near future.
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So only one loan signing so far. Makes you wonder if we could bring in a big name loanee to lead the front line?
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A good couple of days transfer activity.

Is that the majority of in’s do we think or are there a few more with fees attached? I would expect the majority of the rest to be made up of loans etc.
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A good couple of days transfer activity.

Is that the majority of in’s do we think or are there a few more with fees attached? I would expect the majority of the rest to be made up of loans etc.


Seems that a few of our local ITK's are saying we're not done and potentially the big summer signing has yet to be announced.  Got to be honest thought I can't see where anyone fits in, certainly not a marquee signing.  

Potentially a couple going out, one of the left-backs if the Murphy lad from Newcastle is signing and then arguably a central midfielder. But we're well stocked everywhere across the pitch now.

GK - Eastwood & Cartwright
RB - Mullarkey and Efete
LB - Glennon and Amos
CB - Waterfall, Rodgers and Maher
CM - Conteh, Hunt, Green, Clifton, Holohan, Khouri
Wingers - Khan, Eisa, Vernam
ST - Rose, Wilson, Pyke.

Few areas where players can shift about.  Mullarkey capable of playing centre-back, Rodgers anywhere across the back, Clifton anywhere across midfield, Wilson out wide.  That's 21 plus any young professionals.  Purely on numbers I guess there is room for another one or two...
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That’s quite a selection in midfield.  Can’t remember last time we had so many options.
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monkeyboy top of the tree but Hagrid remains a giant in the world of rumours. Surrey heading south but still in with a shout, plenty of back-channel chat and still the possibility of big news in the near future.


I did also say he was training with us a week or so ago...

Bennett deal off
Orsi leaving
Eastwood Training with us
Green training with us when everyone said he was at York

But because you didn't rate Nathan Jarman like the rest of us, you are leaving me to one side.... disgraceful!  
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Honestly, I can't ever remember having as many as SIX midfielders I would be happy to see start!
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I did also say he was training with us a week or so ago...

Bennett deal off
Orsi leaving
Eastwood Training with us
Green training with us when everyone said he was at York

But because you didn't rate Nathan Jarman like the rest of us, you are leaving me to one side.... disgraceful!  


We’ve been through this - sorry but I don’t make the rules!
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I said we was signing Harvey in May, don't think it gets any earlier than that  
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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God



But because you didn't rate Nathan Jarman like the rest of us, you are leaving me to one side.... disgraceful!  


Ska doesn’t make the rules I’m afraid..


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Alex Murphy has told a mutual friend of ours to 'watch this space' and to 'wait and see'..
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Alex Murphy has told a mutual friend of ours to 'watch this space' and to 'wait and see'..

he presumably give us the pace in central defence that Smith gave us.
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Clifton starts. Has to be a good thing?
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Very interesting comments from PH in his post match interview with Matt Dean. He's either reading social media or someone is feeding him very accurate info.
Asked about Conteh he said it's strange how most fans have never heard of him or seen him play, but he's now a superstar. Did say he's a promising but a young lad and we need to give him time.
Think it was Pike he said everyone looks at his scoring record and dismisses him
I didn't think he dismissed the Glennon and Clifton rumours out of hand either, but said things can happen as the window closes
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Very interesting comments from PH in his post match interview with Matt Dean. He's either reading social media or someone is feeding him very accurate info.
Asked about Conteh he said it's strange how most fans have never heard of him or seen him play, but he's now a superstar. Did say he's a promising but a young lad and we need to give him time.
Think it was Pike he said everyone looks at his scoring record and dismisses him
I didn't think he dismissed the Glennon and Clifton rumours out of hand either, but said things can happen as the window closes


He said before he isn't on SM but gets told stuff all the time, think he joked at the fans forum his mother-in-law is always sending him the negative stuff about him... typical mother in law that! He always knows what's being said to be fair probably family and friends etc.

I thought it was more a dig at some of the stuff that people say about players in a negative way, having not seen them. How often do we sign someone, people spend two minutes on Wikipedia and feel able to adjudge they're excrement?! Was lots of it when George Lloyd signed for example, and to a smaller extent it's happened with Pyke this year. Sort of like 'Oh some of the people saying Pyke's excrement without seeing him also think this guys a superstar - without seeing him'


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I said we was signing Harvey in May, don't think it gets any earlier than that  


Yes but he didn't sign in May did he?
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Quoted from buckstown
Very interesting comments from PH in his post match interview with Matt Dean. He's either reading social media or someone is feeding him very accurate info.
Asked about Conteh he said it's strange how most fans have never heard of him or seen him play, but he's now a superstar. Did say he's a promising but a young lad and we need to give him time.
Think it was Pike he said everyone looks at his scoring record and dismisses him
I didn't think he dismissed the Glennon and Clifton rumours out of hand either, but said things can happen as the window closes


And he gave a dose of realism about our "data led approach " and said him and his coaches can see for themselves whether a player is what the want, and indeed he has signed some players were there wasn't any significant data on them .

I think the better signings, on paper at least, have come about because of an increased budget and the club as a whole being in a much better place.
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And he gave a dose of realism about our "data led approach " and said him and his coaches can see for themselves whether a player is what the want, and indeed he has signed some players were there wasn't any significant data on them .

I think the better signings, on paper at least, have come about because of an increased budget and the club as a whole being in a much better place.


True but as I said on another post, I think the data is a help towards identifying and targeting but will never really over take a pair of eyes and footballing brain/knowledge. That side of things probably also helps in the videos we're seemingly making to show the players how we think they fit in etc aswell.

"You get your best results when your playing X way, heres some examples, here's how we want to play with some examples which we think suits that" etc

What is quite obvious is the amount of times Joe Hutchinson is mentioned by the new guys and Paul. Maybe some of those that were spouting nonsense in January about him being no use might reflect on that, but I'd doubt it.


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True but as I said on another post, I think the data is a help towards identifying and targeting but will never really over take a pair of eyes and footballing brain/knowledge. That side of things probably also helps in the videos we're seemingly making to show the players how we think they fit in etc aswell.

"You get your best results when your playing X way, heres some examples, here's how we want to play with some examples which we think suits that" etc

What is quite obvious is the amount of times Joe Hutchinson is mentioned by the new guys and Paul. Maybe some of those that were spouting nonsense in January about him being no use might reflect on that, but I'd doubt it.


In the 'Moneyball' story the head coach and the data guy constantly fought against the coaching and recruitment team saying data 'will never really over take a pair of eyes and footballing brain/knowledge' (well baseball in the real story).

There probably needs to be a balance between the two.


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Is this lad from Newcastle a done deal then ?
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I think he's already been replaced when you look at it, he was often deployed out wide as like an inside forward sort of role bridging the gap between defence and attack. It was very rare that he was actually played in central midfield. We know Charles is best off the left and Eisa is best off the right and then we have Otis who can play both sides. Harry is then fighting for a central spot with Conteh, Alex, Gav, Evan and Greeny. With the signing of Conteh, even if Harry was to leave I think we have some nice options in central midfield in terms of the dynamics.


Don't disagree that there's a nice mix of options and choice in there.  

But isn't Conteh a replacement or Morris.
Vernam for Wearne
Eisa for JMD

End of the summer window last year we had 5 definitive options in the middle (Hunt, Holohan. Green, Morris and Khouri chomping at the bit) and then 3 wide options (Khan, JMD and Wearne) plus Clifton as the can-do-a-job-anywhere.  It just so happened that Harry's ability to do a job anywhere was far greater than 2 of the wingers which saw him deployed out there a fair bit.

12 months on it's exactly the same situation.  5 options in the middle, 3 out wide and then one guy who can do either job very effectively.

If, big if, we do cash in on Clifton I don't think we'll be sitting still and thinking there's enough in there.  As good as the mix is, we would need to try and replicate his energy and running as it's not something any of the others offer.  Even from wide areas, he's very solid and dependable, not traits that Vernam or Eisa (maybe bit more so from Khan) bring.
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Going into last night I was absolutely convinced we would very rarely line-up with two up top, only for Hurst to start with a 4-4-2.

Any mileage in this final 'fee paid' signing to be George Lloyd?  I see Cheltenham are desperately trying to hold onto/wrangle more money for Alfie May so don't know if that has any impact on it.
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Need a Beast up top like Josh Umerah from Hartlepool!! Maybe that’s why they’ve signed Mani! We can live in hope
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Wasn't Umerah more of a winger when he played us? Admittedly, I may be getting my matches mixed up and thinking of another player who was a handful at BP.
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Wasn't Umerah more of a winger when he played us? Admittedly, I may be getting my matches mixed up and thinking of another player who was a handful at BP.


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I'm struggling to remember if I saw that game or just blanked it out of my memory!

Checking the date, I see I was up in Northumberland at the time, which probably explains why I can't recall it.

I've just realised the player I was thinking of was Agyei, at Crewe. He's gone to Orient, so at least we won't need to face him next season.
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Going into last night I was absolutely convinced we would very rarely line-up with two up top, only for Hurst to start with a 4-4-2.

Any mileage in this final 'fee paid' signing to be George Lloyd?  I see Cheltenham are desperately trying to hold onto/wrangle more money for Alfie May so don't know if that has any impact on it.

Yep couldn't help but notice a few people being quiet in the Hurst Headache thread.

On Lloyd, I heard (might have even read on here actually) that he was up for it but Cheltenham want him next season so it's a no go.
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Yeah that's the last I heard/read, just wondering if it's moved really.  Just looking at it objectively, he's not managed to do it at that level with them yet, at the age of 23.  Does a fairly successful loan spell in League Two (a league he's previously done ok for them in, so not groundbreaking news to them) and the potential loss of their talisman change what he's done/can do for them?

I dunno. I guess that perhaps there's a reluctance to sell him AND Alfie May then be left without a replacement for either. On that basis, we might be waiting for them to sell May, then get a replacement before we can even talk about him.  

I just can't imagine he's suddenly in their plans.
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Are we expecting any more this week then ?
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Doesn’t sound like even the slightest sniff of a rumour is floating around at the minute. Will the next one be another ‘left or arc’ that nobody had even considered?!
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I was thinking this earlier on. Much as it's great that we've made some good quality signings early on and we're in a great position to be starting the season in as strong a position as we've been in for many years, it's probably going to make transfer deadline day really boring!!

Overhyped though the occasions is for me there is still something always a little exciting when you're waiting for the news (that usually never comes!) of Town signing some amazing striker that's gonna lead us to the title. At this rate I don't think PH will even be bothered and will be at home with his feet up, lights off and everywhere locked at BP with nothing happening at all.
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I was thinking this earlier on. Much as it's great that we've made some good quality signings early on and we're in a great position to be starting the season in as strong a position as we've been in for many years, it's probably going to make transfer deadline day really boring!!

Overhyped though the occasions is for me there is still something always a little exciting when you're waiting for the news (that usually never comes!) of Town signing some amazing striker that's gonna lead us to the title. At this rate I don't think PH will even be bothered and will be at home with his feet up, lights off and everywhere locked at BP with nothing happening at all.


Personally won't mind that this year. Better than seeing a cluster of "highly thought of" Under 23's coming through the doors to make the numbers up.
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I think if Clifton goes, it'll be on the last day of the transfer season to a team that will have injuries to key midfielders by the end of the transfer window.

Of the 10 (?) signings so far, I think we have paid a fee for 5 of them, but a question I ask myself is how many of those players would have come to Town if there wasn't a fee being paid to the selling club?
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I think if Clifton goes, it'll be on the last day of the transfer season to a team that will have injuries to key midfielders by the end of the transfer window.

Of the 10 (?) signings so far, I think we have paid a fee for 5 of them, but a question I ask myself is how many of those players would have come to Town if there wasn't a fee being paid to the selling club?


They are players we want, have gone after, have fought off competition for in some cases, and who we deem worthy of paying out a fee for. I don’t see it as a negative that we had paid a fee for them. Quite the reverse.

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I think if Clifton goes, it'll be on the last day of the transfer season to a team that will have injuries to key midfielders by the end of the transfer window.

Of the 10 (?) signings so far, I think we have paid a fee for 5 of them, but a question I ask myself is how many of those players would have come to Town if there wasn't a fee being paid to the selling club?


It’s not compulsory for a player to join us.  When a player is under contract there’s a conversation with the selling club and a conversation with the player.  The player doesn’t have to move unless they want to
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As regards paying transfer fees, an ex player once told me that if a club comes in for you and you’re under contract , the rest of your  contract still has to be paid up unless  you’ve put in an official transfer request. Therefore the club releasing the player will ask for the cost or proportion of paying up the contract as a transfer fee.
Just wondered if that’s what the fees are involved in some of our transfers. For example we received a small undisclosed fee for Orsi . He wasn’t in Hursty’s long term plans but under contract for a year. Crawley were interested,  say it maybe would cost us 50 grand to keep him for a year or pay him up , so we ask for a 30 grand fee to free up a bit of the budget.
Admittedly the player who told me that last played about 15 years ago so things may have changed!
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As regards paying transfer fees, an ex player once told me that if a club comes in for you and you’re under contract , the rest of your  contract still has to be paid up unless  you’ve put in an official transfer request. Therefore the club releasing the player will ask for the cost or proportion of paying up the contract as a transfer fee.
Just wondered if that’s what the fees are involved in some of our transfers. For example we received a small undisclosed fee for Orsi . He wasn’t in Hursty’s long term plans but under contract for a year. Crawley were interested,  say it maybe would cost us 50 grand to keep him for a year or pay him up , so we ask for a 30 grand fee to free up a bit of the budget.
Admittedly the player who told me that last played about 15 years ago so things may have changed!


I’m not sure that makes sense. Using your example there, that would mean that Orsi would get the £50k owed to him by us over the club over the next year (presumably as a lump sum), plus the money from his new contract at Crawley. A very attractive proposition from the player’s perspective, so much so I’d imagine we’d see a far greater number of players jostling for a move than we do (which can be done without the aid of an official transfer request).

I’ve always understood that the main benefit of a player letting their contract run down is that they can command more money on the basis that their new club does not have to pay a fee for their services (e.g. what Dallas has done at Solihull).

I’m sure there are examples where your scenario has been true, but I’d be surprised if it were commonplace. Happy to be corrected.


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As regards paying transfer fees, an ex player once told me that if a club comes in for you and you’re under contract , the rest of your  contract still has to be paid up unless  you’ve put in an official transfer request. Therefore the club releasing the player will ask for the cost or proportion of paying up the contract as a transfer fee.
Just wondered if that’s what the fees are involved in some of our transfers. For example we received a small undisclosed fee for Orsi . He wasn’t in Hursty’s long term plans but under contract for a year. Crawley were interested,  say it maybe would cost us 50 grand to keep him for a year or pay him up , so we ask for a 30 grand fee to free up a bit of the budget.
Admittedly the player who told me that last played about 15 years ago so things may have changed!


Think it’s more to do with things such sign on fees and loyalty bonuses, rather than the remaining value of their contract that have to be settled if they’re paid over the course of the contract. A written transfer request would usually be them forfeiting things like that.
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Not sure if it’s still the case but some years ago a player would receive 5% of any transfer fee unless they had submitted a written transfer request.
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Not sure if it’s still the case but some years ago a player would receive 5% of any transfer fee unless they had submitted a written transfer request.


Yes definitely used to be the case.

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Like I said that was a good few years ago and it was Gally who told me but he was sober at the time !
It does make sense in some ways though when you want to get rid of a player but not fully pay him up, especially if the interested club doesn’t want to break their wage structure and the player is moving to a lower club.
We paid a fee for Hunt who I believe had 2 years left on his contract at Wednesday . PH has said many times he likes to keep wages at similar levels . For example if he was on 2 grand a week but told he wasn’t in the managers plans he could see out his contract and earn 200K.
We want him but the most we pay for a player his age is 1500 quid a week. He’d be 50 grand out of pocket coming here . Yes he can sit tight and bag the money but won’t get games. A deal is struck 3 ways . He agrees to accept 100 grand from Wednesday  half of what he’s entitled to he sees out his contract. We pay 50 grand towards that as a fee, keeping within our wage budget and structure and presumably saving on PAYE , National Insurance , pensions etc if we paid it over his 3 year contract. The player himself doesn’t lose out.
If a player is moving up the leagues they’re probably doubling their wages anyway and any contract pay off would be added to the transfer or signing on fee.
I have no idea if that’s how it works , maybe some one more in the know could tell us ?
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I’m almost hoping Clifton goes just for a bit of excitement now.
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I’m almost hoping Clifton goes just for a bit of excitement now.


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I'd accept a dull period  


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You'd think, even if we are not interested in a 'major' signing of a big lump type striker that one premiership or championship team would have a youngster of that ilk they'd loan out to us. If he was the only striker of that type we had then you'd think it would mean he was likely to get a fair amount of minutes coming off the bench late in games if we need to go route 1. That might mean we  can obtain a higher calibre of loan if they think a fee appearances are likely.

I'm not advocating such a player would be a main striker but it'd be nice to have the option and probably not got much to lose. So long as we don't do one of those deals we're if we don't play him we have to pay him (which I reckon we made the mistake of with oneill judging by all the times he was brought off the bench despite being repeatedly ineffectual).
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You'd think, even if we are not interested in a 'major' signing of a big lump type striker that one premiership or championship team would have a youngster of that ilk they'd loan out to us. If he was the only striker of that type we had then you'd think it would mean he was likely to get a fair amount of minutes coming off the bench late in games if we need to go route 1. That might mean we  can obtain a higher calibre of loan if they think a fee appearances are likely.

I'm not advocating such a player would be a main striker but it'd be nice to have the option and probably not got much to lose. So long as we don't do one of those deals we're if we don't play him we have to pay him (which I reckon we made the mistake of with oneill judging by all the times he was brought off the bench despite being repeatedly ineffectual).


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I would like to watch how young Richardson progresses this season wherever he plays, as he wasn't scared in the tackle, even though not a big 6 footer. To me personally, he was the best of the younger loanees we had last season until getting injured.
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A few people mentioning Andy Smith was linked with Lincoln a few weeks ago, however looks like Hull are going to offload another centre half, and he maybe in with a chance of featuring there next season.

Liam Rosenior gave Smith 45 minutes against Galatasaray the other night and commented "I thought Andy Smith was excellent on his debut in terms of working with me, he’s improving every day and he’s got a real chance here,"

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/defender-flies-out-hull-city-8581377


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Done some poking about and seen a single, solitary post on a sparse Colchester Utd forum saying “Hopper could be on his way to Grimsby”.

Not sure whether that comes from their version of monkeyboy or Lukeo, so who knows.
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I would like to watch how young Richardson progresses this season wherever he plays, as he wasn't scared in the tackle, even though not a big 6 footer. To me personally, he was the best of the younger loanees we had last season until getting injured.


He looked talented, he was just built from popadoms and breadsticks
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He looked talented, he was just built from popadoms and breadsticks


You really shouldn’t wish people bread like that …
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Small suggestion on the Bradford City forum that they're in for Harry, but won't be able to compete with Barnsley and Oxford
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Small suggestion on the Bradford City forum that they're in for Harry, but won't be able to compete with Barnsley and Oxford


There's not a cat in hells chance he'd leave us for Bradford. Out of those 3 Barnsley is the only one that makes any sense. Hope he stays but could understand if he wants a move. I listen to under the cosh a lot and players who play for their hometown clubs often say on there they are treated worse than the other players. I'd like to think that we don't do this and Harry is on a good contract here.


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Quoted from buckstown
Small suggestion on the Bradford City forum that they're in for Harry, but won't be able to compete with Barnsley and Oxford


Cannot see Harry going to Bradford, Bradford cannot compete with Barnsley, but Grimsby can.
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Heard a whisper that Adan George could sign on loan for a season if he impresses again tomorrow. Not a good record for scoring, but has pace and muscular  to lead the attack as a no.9, is young and has good prospects. Brummy friend says he was at Walsall for a spell last season but sat on the bench mainly. Could be a good asset for us in game play.
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Heard a whisper that Adan George could sign on loan for a season if he impresses again tomorrow. Not a good record for scoring, but has pace and muscular  to lead the attack as a no.9, is young and has good prospects. Brummy friend says he was at Walsall for a spell last season but sat on the bench mainly. Could be a good asset for us in game play.


Thought he was a free agent?
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Thought he was a free agent?


Yep he is

A further seven young professionals have been released. Alfie Brooks, Lewis Cunningham, Adan George, Mitchell Roberts, Keyendrah Simmonds, Ryan Stirk and Remi Walker will all depart the Club following the expiration of their contracts.

https://www.bcfc.com/news/all/retained-and-released-list-2023




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Could be a cheap option with the potential for him to impress with us and to build his career. Otherwise, you'd assume he would be looking somewhere in the West Midlands such as Walsall, Solihull and so forth.

I certainly think we need some sort of a Plan B but not sure if this guy is it or not.
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Have we seen an end to the spending on players?
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Oxford and Barnsley both make sense for Harry although with the new boss that’s been appointed at Barnsley coming from America and having 0 managerial experience in England I’d like to think that’s off the cards now and he’d have his own targets. Oxford are throwing some money at it after a poor showing last season but they offer big wages to some of there key players to keep them around but they’re well stock in central midfield so I’m not sure if there’d be any legs in them being interested. The biggest confidence I have with the new owners is that we won’t be short handed in negotiations if Harry does leave and that we’ll get a very good deal.
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Micky Demetriou is leaving Newport County and their manager on the BBC article is bemoaning the fact they can't compete and he's losing players to Harrogate and Grimsby, I don't recall us signing a player from Newport this season? So is he on about a player we have signed from elsewhere and they were interested but he chose us, or has he confirmed Demetriou is signing for us? It's more likely to be the former rather than the latter but he could be an option and he would probably mean we don't need any more defenders
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Micky Demetriou is leaving Newport County and their manager on the BBC article is bemoaning the fact they can't compete and he's losing players to Harrogate and Grimsby, I don't recall us signing a player from Newport this season? So is he on about a player we have signed from elsewhere and they were interested but he chose us, or has he confirmed Demetriou is signing for us? It's more likely to be the former rather than the latter but he could be an option and he would probably mean we don't need any more defenders


The way it's worded it's that we have signed one of their players , but then again it's the BBC so could just be a poorly written/translated article .
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Maybe Demetrius has accepted an offer from Town for a new contract,

or

2+2 = Bogle returning!! 😂🤣
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The way it's worded it's that we have signed one of their players , but then again it's the BBC so could just be a poorly written/translated article .


What’s the source that translates and writes much better than the BBC out of interest?  I agree they’re shite for sport but all up for a better read if it’s out there.
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Demetriou is naturally a LB and also plays CB. Exactly the sort of player that Hurst likes.  I would suspect he could be a potential replacement, should we lose Glennon or Waterfall.

Reading between the lines, GTFC COULD be where his new future lies!
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I just tend to look at the lower league people on twitter and go from their  for league 2 and not take too much interest of BBC .

Maybe it's because they have sent their license operators (or whoever it is working for them ) round a few times though ,even though  i don't have the TV channels trying to make me buy a license .
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Read that interview with the Newport manager and I'm staggered to see him describe us as, 'The likes of Grimsby'! He's at Newport flipping County, who are certainly a proper football club but one that has traditionally been miles below us in the league (when they've been in the League, that is). It's going to take a long time to wash away the taint of the Fenty years.
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Quoted from dicko995
Heard a whisper that Adan George could sign on loan for a season if he impresses again tomorrow. Not a good record for scoring, but has pace and muscular  to lead the attack as a no.9, is young and has good prospects. Brummy friend says he was at Walsall for a spell last season but sat on the bench mainly. Could be a good asset for us in game play.


Those who went to GY Boro would have seen that George certainly wasn't a No 9. He played as a wide forward, often hugging the touchline. He did have pace and looked to have good potential but he will be competing with the likes of Vernam and Eisa if he signs but not that final striker option we need
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Read that interview with the Newport manager and I'm staggered to see him describe us as, 'The likes of Grimsby'! He's at Newport flipping County, who are certainly a proper football club but one that has traditionally been miles below us in the league (when they've been in the League, that is). It's going to take a long time to wash away the taint of the Fenty years.


Same with those Colchester fans on Twitter , find it strange that club's who get half our gates are labelling us as a piece of dirt on their shoes .

At least we will give the likes of Newport and Colchester a beating next season , looking at their squads they are miles away from us in terms of ability .

Will be quite enjoyable - minnows Grimsby beat the mighty Newport .

It will take time to restore our reputation , but do we really care ? Or what other clubs think ; leave them to it .
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It would amuse me if Clifton signed for Bradford, scores for them at BP and then went absolutely berserk in front of the pontoon. W@nker gestures, middle finger, fist pumps, the lot. Just for #bantz.
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Heh, here come the crosses. Let’s go for the record.
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On this Newport article, I wonder if we are signing Aaron Lewis who had 2 years at Lincoln 2019-21. He's a full back and that would give us Rodgers, Maher, Waterfall and Mullarkey/Efete as CB options.
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Aaron Lewis was on trial at Mansfield earlier in the week
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Quoted from Davec
Micky Demetriou is leaving Newport County and their manager on the BBC article is bemoaning the fact they can't compete and he's losing players to Harrogate and Grimsby, I don't recall us signing a player from Newport this season? So is he on about a player we have signed from elsewhere and they were interested but he chose us, or has he confirmed Demetriou is signing for us? It's more likely to be the former rather than the latter but he could be an option and he would probably mean we don't need any more defenders


Yeah the way it's worded makes it seem like 1 of those 4 players has gone to us, anybody know if they've been signed elsewhere?

Demetriou was with Hurst at Shrewsbury, he's a 33 year old defender described as a leader, but he's been offered a 2 year contract at Newport. You'd think we would have had to match that so only really makes sense if Waterfall is leaving after all I'd say.

Being put in the same bracket as tiny Harrogate, and non league oldham, by the manager or one of the smallest league clubs is frustrating and does prove how low our stock had fallen under Fenty. It bothers me, but more importantly it shows what a disadvantage it is for recruitment as football people see us as team for whom league 2 mid-table is us at our best.

I just hope we ram that expectation down people's throats this upcoming season!
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I read that as him bemoaning the fact that he’s missing out on targets and they're opting to sign for (the likes of) us instead. Could be referring to any one of the players that have already signed.


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Glennon going to Swansea and Clifton to Barnsley is what I have heard be interesting to see if either of them play today
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Same with those Colchester fans on Twitter , find it strange that club's who get half our gates are labelling us as a piece of dirt on their shoes .

At least we will give the likes of Newport and Colchester a beating next season , looking at their squads they are miles away from us in terms of ability .

Will be quite enjoyable - minnows Grimsby beat the mighty Newport .

It will take time to restore our reputation , but do we really care ? Or what other clubs think ; leave them to it .


We’ve always been used as a bit of a Buzz word by fans or even players or managers of bigger clubs to describe either their difficult spells or unpleasant times, often used to describe us as not a nice but equally difficult place to go when you’re up against it. Always thought the “Grim” part of the name is the sole cause of that.

The thing with those associated with clubs of a similar or smaller size to us it’s all about perceptions. The majority of my childhood we were a Division 1 (Championship) sometimes I have to check myself when I think we shouldn’t be losing to the likes of, well most of the teams we play as I think this team were in obscurity or way worse than us whilst we were giving the likes of Forest and Man City a game, but then I remember we’ve not been back there in 20 years. In fact we’ve been in League Two or the National League since 2004. Teams like Colchester who you mentioned who are undoubtedly a smaller club, in that 20 years have gone up and had a decent spell in the Championship so I would imagine they have a number of fans who wear rose tinted glasses thinking that their club is bigger or better than they are.

Unless they read our history, a lot of fans especially younger fans would probably just see us a bit oh a yo yo club between levels 4 and 5 and judge us one of the bottom end clubs in the Football League.

I’ve never really been arsed about what other people think of us and enjoy it more when we turn up with a massive crowd, out sing, out number and out score them.

UTM


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Think we just have to take our reputation on the chin, it's always been the same. Wasn't there a "no disrespect to the likes of Grimsby" thread at some point, full of quotes from people like Souness.
You can guarantee that if we're ten points clear on new years day the world of football will be as one. Bless them, they've had a lovely run but it won't last, they're just a little tin pot club.
Long live the underdog
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Demetriou is naturally a LB and also plays CB. Exactly the sort of player that Hurst likes.  I would suspect he could be a potential replacement, should we lose Glennon or Waterfall.

Reading between the lines, GTFC COULD be where his new future lies!


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Ali Al-Hamadi of AFC Wimbledon

You heard it here first.

Currently recovering from injury but confirmed sighting of him at the Grimsby Borough match wearing a medical boot on his leg.
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Ooh, finished last season with 10 in 14 in a poor side.


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Harry not playing today. Hasn't got the kit on. Fingers crossed he's taken a knock in training, and they have chosen to not play him rather than.........gulp......

...........it doesn't even bear thinking about.....can't bring myself to say it.........
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Ooh, finished last season with 10 in 14 in a poor side.


Exactly. The sighting was by a local AFC Wimbledon fan who recognised him AND got a photo with him!!!

Why else would he be at a Grimsby pre-season game, especially against lowly opponents? He's not just getting his football fix, is he?
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He’s currently in Spain with AFC Wimbledon.


Yes I know. AFC Wimbledon didn't fly out to Spain until Thursday though.
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Yes I know. AFC Wimbledon didn't fly out to Spain until Thursday though.


He may be in Spain but he did not feature in either half of AFC Wimbledon 1-0 win over Reading
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Exactly. The sighting was by a local AFC Wimbledon fan who recognised him AND got a photo with him!!!

Why else would he be at a Grimsby pre-season game, especially against lowly opponents? He's not just getting his football fix, is he?


Are they going to post the photo, cos he was still in Spain with the AFC Wimbledon squad as of yesterday (link). Would be surprising to say the least if he's already made it over to Cleethorpes since then:



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You did notice that AFC Wimbledon didn't fly out to Spain until Thursday, and that we played Grimsby Borough on Tuesday, right?
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My initial excitement has very quickly faded as this sounds very much like balderdash
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Are they going to post the photo, cos he was still in Spain with the AFC Wimbledon squad as of yesterday (link). Would be surprising to say the least if he's already made it over to Cleethorpes since then:



He was seen on Tuesday at the Grimsby Borough game, and Wimbledon didn't fly to Spain until Thursday, so of course he is in Spain with them!
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Who saw him at Grimsby Borough?
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Christ this is painful to read from all sides
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intercourse me lads, do you believe any old shite? Wimbledon have been in Spain all week (you can check this in 30 seconds on twitter) and here's a pic of Al-Hamadi there on Monday:

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I mean fair play if he's sacked their tour off for 24 hours to trot over to Grimsby Borough vs Grimsby Town for some bizarre reason, but that's highly unlikely isn't it?

immediate relegation for everyone involved in propagating this rumour imho


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Instant relegation for Jock Strap
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If it was this guy, did he have other reasons for being in the area and was asked to have a quick look at our players since we play them as the opening game in a few weeks,
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Phew. I was worried we'd be signing an immigrant of military age for a minute. I can sleep easy in my bed now.
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Phew. I was worried we'd be signing an immigrant of military age for a minute. I can sleep easy in my bed now.


An immigrant? Of military age? The b*stards!
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I mean fair play if he's sacked their tour off for 24 hours to trot over to Grimsby Borough vs Grimsby Town for some bizarre reason, but that's highly unlikely isn't it?

immediate relegation for everyone involved in propagating this rumour imho


Levi colwill and Morgan Gibbs white played the first half before jetting back out for the euro under 21 final 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️


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Believe the rumours regarding Clifton are unfortunately true.
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Seen £250k mentioned a few times.

Appreciate I’m gonna get the burning pitchfork treatment for this, but I reckon if someone handed Hurst £250k and said “get me a more effective midfielder than Harry Clifton”, he could do it with his eyes closed.
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IF Harry leaves, I am certain he leaves with everyone’s blessing and I will not begrudge him the opportunity to take his career to the next level.

What a servant sand what a success story he has been for both the Academy and the Club.

If it’s true, the very best of luck to him and if not, that’s fantastic news!!

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View from the Barnsley fans…..great memories so they do remember us!

https://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/this-rumour-will-surely-give-encouragement.323216/
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Deserves the opportunity to test himself at a higher level, it will also be good for his international career. Don’t believe Conteh was brought in as a Clifton replacement, so we’ll see who comes in to replace him.
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View from the Barnsley fans…..great memories so they do remember us!

https://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/this-rumour-will-surely-give-encouragement.323216/


What a bunch of unfunny, patronising girl privates they are.
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Same with those Colchester fans on Twitter , find it strange that club's who get half our gates are labelling us as a piece of dirt on their shoes .

At least we will give the likes of Newport and Colchester a beating next season , looking at their squads they are miles away from us in terms of l .

Will be quite enjoyable - minnows Grimsby beat the mighty Newport .

It will take time to restore our reputation , but do we really care ? Or what other clubs think ; leave them to it .

Let's hope your words don't come back and bite us on the bottom.
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Well the bloke who mentioned it to myself last week has been spot on with his transfer news as well, so had no reason to doubt it. Its a shame but lets not kid ourselves, Harry isnt an Alan Pouton or Paul Groves. He’s been great for us but i back PH to find us someone just as good
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250K is the rumoured fee, no matter who the player given the circumstances that he's only got a year left is another great bit of business. Harry's work-rate will be hard to replace but technically I think we can definitely improve on him. Great kid, great pro and happy to see him make the step up.
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Could HC going out mean that the rumour about Luke hannant coming in be true?

Sounds like a similar kind of player


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I'll be sad to see Harry go. He's a player I've rated him for a while. He was our best player the season we got relegated in my opinion and that was out of position at left back. I don't think he's the greatest passer ever but he's extremely fit, pretty quick and not bad at dribbling with the ball and taking a man on. He'll be a big loss but no irreplaceable. One positive if he does go is that we'll get to discuss his potential return every transfer window until he comes back or retires.
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I'll be sad to see Harry go. He's a player I've rated him for a while. He was our best player the season we got relegated in my opinion and that was out of position at left back. I don't think he's the greatest passer ever but he's extremely fit, pretty quick and not bad at dribbling with the ball and taking a man on. He'll be a big loss but no irreplaceable. One positive if he does go is that we'll get to discuss his potential return every transfer window until he comes back or retires.


exactly this. We get £250k for harry, n we've got Khouri n Conteh as immediate replacements.Plus we all know that HC is on loan to the Yorkies, n will always return home sooner or later

would love it not to happen, but think it will, n really hopes he's a massive success. Nobody has worked harder
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Players come and go and it doesn't bother me. But this one makes me feel sad. I love watching Harry. His love, passion and energy on the field is fantastic to see. But, if he does go I wish him all the best and I hope it works out for him.
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If Clifton indeed does go I would be upset but not devestated , he's a good player at this level but technically quite limited - I would back Hurst to adequately replace him .

It's another nod to the academy though and not just that , we are consistently raising a decent amount in fees for academy products or players who  have improved in our first team - Mcatee , Grist , Pollock ,Dembele and maybe now Clifton .

I suppose the hope is moving forward we can develop some so that the move after the one leaving us is a 'big one ' and we have a big % sell on fee - I read yesterday Maidenhead will get 8 million if Max Killman moves from Wolves as they have a 20% sell on , all we need is one  like that and we make serious money .
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Clifton going would be seen as a blow but he’s not irreplaceable and if we were to get a fee for him then happy days.

He’s much improved and the lad deserves some credit for that, a few years ago, if someone had come in for him I’d have put him in the car and taken him myself. Between Hursts coaching and Clifton’s commitment, credit all round.

Is he a league 1 player? Who knows but he’s proven he has the ability to learn and improve so perhaps he can be.


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I think we'll miss him more than some might think, so versatile and consistent and always makes stuff happen despite his limitations with passing which he has improved on massively since he first came into the side. Oh and probably one of, if not the best engine in the entire division, and he obviously had such passion playing for town.

Absolutely do not begrudge him the move, hes been either our best player or close to it every year since the relegation season. If he does go I really hope he makes a success of it, I really like him as a player, he's so positive every time he gets the ball. If the rumour of 250k is true then, for a player in the last year of his contract, we can't complain and Harry will have earnt Town a worthwhile fee on top of all his great service over the seasons he's been with us.

Personally I think he will be just fine at league 1 level.
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Echo most thoughts, we’ll miss Clifton but I think we could probably get a better player with even half of the 250k (perhaps we already have in Conteh).

It’s the business model we’re choosing to go down and it’ll be fantastic business if it happens. He’s a work horse, has added goals to his game but I do think there are gaps there that make him replaceable.
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Be gutted if Arry leaves for sure, but wish him all the best as he's genuinely a really good young lad aswell as a good pro.
We will have the same situation in 2-3 years with Khouri who I like alot.
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Micky Demetriou - Do we think he’ll be wearing Black & White next season?

With Aaron Lewis playing and training with Mansfield, I suspect Demetriou is possibly on his way to BP.

Interesting week ahead I think.
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Micky Demetriou - Do we think he’ll be wearing Black & White next season?

With Aaron Lewis playing and training with Mansfield, I suspect Demetriou is possibly on his way to BP.

Interesting week ahead I think.
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I might be massively in the minority here but I'm not too fussed about Clifton moving on, that's just football isn't it?..
He's gone from a player that 3 seasons ago was getting pelters because of his lack of technical ability and inability to pass a ball further than 5 yards to to one that has become a mainstay in our midfield. I have to give kudos to Clifton for his persistence to learn and improve and our coaching staff for seeing the talent that required honing.
My only hope is we've negotiated a good deal both for the player and the club because I do think Clifton hasn't reached his ceiling yet abd could get a move even further up the pyramid to be honest.
As for a "natural" replacement, I'd argue he's already in the building in the form of Evan Khouri...
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Micky Demetriou - Do we think he’ll be wearing Black & White next season?

With Aaron Lewis playing and training with Mansfield, I suspect Demetriou is possibly on his way to BP.

Interesting week ahead I think.


This the lad from Newport?
Sounds like he's coming here from their managers rant! Please go take a read (I haven't got a link)
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Echo most thoughts, we’ll miss Clifton but I think we could probably get a better player with even half of the 250k (perhaps we already have in Conteh).

It’s the business model we’re choosing to go down and it’ll be fantastic business if it happens. He’s a work horse, has added goals to his game but I do think there are gaps there that make him replaceable.


Harry ticks a big box in that he can play a wide number of positions but, even after all his time with us, I'm still not sure what his best position is. I suspect that his versatility has worked against him as he has never held down one position for very long due to injuries to others. In this regard, we will doubtless miss him but with the replacements we've made, maybe less than we might think.
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Newports manager just happened to be moaning about us in an article where Dementriou was also mentioned. I highly doubt we’d be signing a 33 year old in a position we already have 2 players.
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Conteh is not a replacement for Harry. Not a chance.

Completely different type of player altogether. Conteh was a replacement for Morris, part of that evolution and progression each time we replace someone (hopefully).

If we want to replace Clifton it'll need to be someone who offers similar attributes, the only one in the building who I see as capable of doing that is Khouri.  I've long said he'll go onto better Clifton and I still believe this.

Not 100% convinced we'll bring another midfielder in if Harry does go, we're quite well stocked in there anyway and Hurst has favoured a 4-4-2 so far in pre-season, only the second half against 'Boro was a deviation from it.

I think he'll get the money to use but I wouldn't be surprised if Hurst sees it as an opportunity to promote Khouri in the pecking order and spend it elsewhere (where, I'm not sure!)

I love what Harry brings to our game and he's proved to be fundamental to our turnaround in the last few years. I don't think his passion, desire and commitment is that easy to replace. I think we'll miss him more than a lot may realise.  But can't deny the lad the opportunity to progress at a quicker rate than we can offer him.
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Conteh is not a replacement for Harry. Not a chance.

Completely different type of player altogether. Conteh was a replacement for Morris, part of that evolution and progression each time we replace someone (hopefully).

If we want to replace Clifton it'll need to be someone who offers similar attributes, the only one in the building who I see as capable of doing that is Khouri.  I've long said he'll go onto better Clifton and I still believe this.

Not 100% convinced we'll bring another midfielder in if Harry does go, we're quite well stocked in there anyway and Hurst has favoured a 4-4-2 so far in pre-season, only the second half against 'Boro was a deviation from it.

I think he'll get the money to use but I wouldn't be surprised if Hurst sees it as an opportunity to promote Khouri in the pecking order and spend it elsewhere (where, I'm not sure!)

I love what Harry brings to our game and he's proved to be fundamental to our turnaround in the last few years. I don't think his passion, desire and commitment is that easy to replace. I think we'll miss him more than a lot may realise.  But can't deny the lad the opportunity to progress at a quicker rate than we can offer him.


Hopefully a new longer term deal for Khouri is in the pipeline  , because he has all the atributes to be a very good player in the medium to longer term .
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If it’s Barnsley, that’s a great move for him and at the right time.
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I think some potentially underestimate the role Harry Clifton plays, and I think comments about his technical ability are a little harsh. Athletically, I have to go back a long way before I can think of another Town player with a better engine than him. He was surely one of, if not the hardest working and fittest players in League Two last season and I imagine the stats bear that out (hence the interest he appears to have garnered).

The fact that he is so fit, so industrious and so versatile shouldn’t detract from his general playing ability. No one scored more than Harry Clifton in a Town shirt last season, only Glennon notched more assists, and only Max Crocombe, our goalkeeper, made more appearances or played more minutes. The season before, our promotion season, he was our third top-goalscorer behind John McAtee and Ryan Taylor. He has been a vital player for us. The lynch pin.

My opinion has nothing to do with where he was born or who he supports. I just think there’s enough in Harry’s stats, on top of all the anecdotal evidence, to suggest that he’s a very, very good player at this level, and has plenty in his locker to go higher. Why else would a side that narrowly avoided the Chanpionship last season be showing interest?

All that said, no player is ours indefinitely and part of our evolution into the football club we want to be means creating saleable assets and selling them before they pass their peak value (e.g. they reach or approach the end of their contract). If there’s interest from above then Harry would be silly to sign a new deal here, and we’d be equally silly to allow him to go for nothing next summer.

Harry Clifton will be very difficult to replace; perhaps more so than many seem to appreciate. But ultimately, developing a local player through the youth system, keeping them until the age of 25 and having played a major part in the club’s history before selling them on for a substantial 6-figure fee is the stuff of dreams. Too often young players either aren’t good enough to make it or get snaffled by bigger clubs before they make the first-team.

Whatever happens in the next few days, we should embrace it and be grateful to and chuffed for a local lad who has done so much for his home town club and fully deserves his next opportunity.


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Conteh is not a replacement for Harry. Not a chance.

Completely different type of player altogether. Conteh was a replacement for Morris, part of that evolution and progression each time we replace someone (hopefully).

If we want to replace Clifton it'll need to be someone who offers similar attributes, the only one in the building who I see as capable of doing that is Khouri.  I've long said he'll go onto better Clifton and I still believe this.

Not 100% convinced we'll bring another midfielder in if Harry does go, we're quite well stocked in there anyway and Hurst has favoured a 4-4-2 so far in pre-season, only the second half against 'Boro was a deviation from it.

I think he'll get the money to use but I wouldn't be surprised if Hurst sees it as an opportunity to promote Khouri in the pecking order and spend it elsewhere (where, I'm not sure!)

I love what Harry brings to our game and he's proved to be fundamental to our turnaround in the last few years. I don't think his passion, desire and commitment is that easy to replace. I think we'll miss him more than a lot may realise.  But can't deny the lad the opportunity to progress at a quicker rate than we can offer him.


This is a bit concerning in my opinion. We have some decent options in midfield but when most teams have three in there, are any of them good enough to dominate when outnumbered? I don’t think they are. But I’m sure Hurst knows far better than me.
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Spot on poojah.

Was about to make a similar point. He's a lot better than some are giving him credit for and that's why there is interest in him from higher up.

Always liked and rated him and have enjoyed watching him develop into a great all round player. Think there is still more to come from him.
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Newports manager just happened to be moaning about us in an article where Dementriou was also mentioned. I highly doubt we’d be signing a 33 year old in a position we already have 2 players.


Exactly this, he also mentioned Oldham and Harrogate, they haven’t lost any players to them this summer either unless I’m mistaken. He must’ve just been talking about players they’d targeted this summer. Seems like Demetriou is going to Swindon if rumours are right.
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I think it's possible that PH has played 4-4-2 in pre-season to have a better look at how our forwards shape up at the sharp
end of the attack. All of Pyke, Wilson and Rose have played other roles - and it makes room for a trialist too.

On Harry's likely (?) departure, whilst the sides in which he played would most certainly have missed his energy and endeavour
had he not been there, I feel that Hurst has assembled a more promotion-capable squad this time around - so he won't be such
a big miss. Wish him every success, obviously.

It would be a big vote of confidence in Khouri if El General doesn't replace Clifton, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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Unfortunately although Kouri looks a cracking player he has nothing like the stamina of Harry so for now not really a replacement
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I’m not sure many have the stamina of Harry tbf. But you can replace and not have a ‘like for like’..


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Unfortunately although Kouri looks a cracking player he has nothing like the stamina of Harry so for now not really a replacement


How can you say that?...he's not been given the chance to prove his long term stamina as yet, from what I've seen he appears to have an excellent engine, his tackling is actually cleaner than Cliftons, also he's a good few years younger and year-for-year arguably a better player...
On another note, where I'll contradict myself slightly, Clifton is a bit of a freak when it comes to stamina, I'd say very few, including top flight players, have his level of fitness.
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No official bid by anyone as of yet. Lots of interest in him and Barnsley was very interested before Michael Duff departed to go to Swansea, however new manager might have his own targets in mind. Saturday was only a precautionary for Harry having a slight knock.
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Harry will be a big loss. However, he's one of those strange players who most people (me included) would argue is one of our best players, yet I don't think he's the best player in any particular position. He's an all rounder without a specialist position. I'd argue he was at his best early in the season when he played more down the left and that was when he got most of his goals but he lost his influence when played centrally after shifting to the back five. We have many more options out wide this season and have strengthened in the middle so I don't think he's guaranteed to be a starter if he stays.

Either way, I think it's a great move for Harry and one he deserves and it could work to our favour of we invest the money.
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How can you say that?...he's not been given the chance to prove his long term stamina as yet, from what I've seen he appears to have an excellent engine, his tackling is actually cleaner than Cliftons, also he's a good few years younger and year-for-year arguably a better player...
On another note, where I'll contradict myself slightly, Clifton is a bit of a freak when it comes to stamina, I'd say very few, including top flight players, have his level of fitness.


Absolutely this.

I posted this comparison between the two at similar ages (final post in the thread) earlier in the year when Clifton was originally linked with a move to Luton.  https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1675800298/highlight-Khouri/id-1626238#id1626238

Clifton took a good two years, at least, before his value was appreciated by both management and fans. Khouri is ahead of him on that curve, I reckon anyway.

They're not like-for-like and we don't need an exact clone, but we will need someone who offers some of the stuff that Harry does. That's stamina, tenacity, box-to-box attributes and the ability to get a fair few goals/assists.  Clifton didn't add the goals and assists until the last two seasons either.

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Let's not forget, he's one of our own,
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I mean,I haven’t seen any credible information or source that suggests that Harry is leaving, or is set to do so. Some posts in this thread are treating this notion like it’s done and dusted and there’s a fond farewell.


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Harry has also scored some critical goals.  I think that he will have a long and successful career.  Similar to James Milner in many ways.
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If Clifton indeed does go I would be upset but not devestated , he's a good player at this level but technically quite limited - I would back Hurst to adequately replace him .

It's another nod to the academy though and not just that , we are consistently raising a decent amount in fees for academy products or players who  have improved in our first team - Mcatee , Grist , Pollock ,Dembele and maybe now Clifton .

I suppose the hope is moving forward we can develop some so that the move after the one leaving us is a 'big one ' and we have a big % sell on fee - I read yesterday Maidenhead will get 8 million if Max Killman moves from Wolves as they have a 20% sell on , all we need is one  like that and we make serious money .


Wow, that Max Kilman thing is amazing!! I had no idea he came from them. That could totally transform their future.
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Kouri is a great player in the making may well end up making Harry look nothing special but  all his starts last season he was pulled because he ran out of steam he does not have the stamina yet to go full pelt for 90 minutes hence he is yet able to replace Clifton. Not knocking the lad but he is not Harry yet
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Wow, that Max Kilman thing is amazing!! I had no idea he came from them. That could totally transform their future.


Carlisle could make some serious dough out of Dean Henderson to I think and will make a decent amount out  of James Trafford (that lad in goals last night for u21s) if they are sold .

So it can be done with a bit of luck and picking the right one's .  
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Kouri is a great player in the making may well end up making Harry look nothing special but  all his starts last season he was pulled because he ran out of steam he does not have the stamina yet to go full pelt for 90 minutes hence he is yet able to replace Clifton. Not knocking the lad but he is not Harry yet


Hard to really gain match fitness when you're not getting many minutes, Khouri has a very good pedigree as we picked him up from West Ham and they're youth team is one of the best in the country for producing talent. Thing I love about Khouri is despite his stature and his age he's willing to get amongst it and do the dirty side of the game. First thing he did when he came on against Southampton was fly into a 50/50 and win the ball with a beautiful tackle on the touchline.
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For Khouri if we bring another decent midfielder in or he is not getting game time , a few months at a decent level conference club would do him the world of good in terms of development .

All depends how much we use him , really hope to see a new contract relatively soon for him though - he only has a year left doesn't he?
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Clubs only need one player to become a big PL signing or transfer to make big money.  Sell-on’s are they key.

Besides the above clubs Exeter made at least £6m from Ollie Watkins moving top clubs.  York made a few million when Everton paid a lot of money for Godfrey from Norwich.  There must be other examples.
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I think some potentially underestimate the role Harry Clifton plays, and I think comments about his technical ability are a little harsh. Athletically, I have to go back a long way before I can think of another Town player with a better engine than him. He was surely one of, if not the hardest working and fittest players in League Two last season and I imagine the stats bear that out (hence the interest he appears to have garnered).

The fact that he is so fit, so industrious and so versatile shouldn’t detract from his general playing ability. No one scored more than Harry Clifton in a Town shirt last season, only Glennon notched more assists, and only Max Crocombe, our goalkeeper, made more appearances or played more minutes. The season before, our promotion season, he was our third top-goalscorer behind John McAtee and Ryan Taylor. He has been a vital player for us. The lynch pin.

My opinion has nothing to do with where he was born or who he supports. I just think there’s enough in Harry’s stats, on top of all the anecdotal evidence, to suggest that he’s a very, very good player at this level, and has plenty in his locker to go higher. Why else would a side that narrowly avoided the Chanpionship last season be showing interest?

All that said, no player is ours indefinitely and part of our evolution into the football club we want to be means creating saleable assets and selling them before they pass their peak value (e.g. they reach or approach the end of their contract). If there’s interest from above then Harry would be silly to sign a new deal here, and we’d be equally silly to allow him to go for nothing next summer.

Harry Clifton will be very difficult to replace; perhaps more so than many seem to appreciate. But ultimately, developing a local player through the youth system, keeping them until the age of 25 and having played a major part in the club’s history before selling them on for a substantial 6-figure fee is the stuff of dreams. Too often young players either aren’t good enough to make it or get snaffled by bigger clubs before they make the first-team.

Whatever happens in the next few days, we should embrace it and be grateful to and chuffed for a local lad who has done so much for his home town club and fully deserves his next opportunity.


Absolutely this. I'll be gutted if he goes.
He's probably been the best player in ever position he's played in the last 3 years.
I can't imagine there are many plays who've had more important touches in both boxes. Cracking athlete and a clever player.

He certainly doesn't owe us anything. I know the club have been trying to get him to sign a new deal all summer. But he's clearly outgrown us, expect him to kick on.

As for replacing him, I'm surprised to see so much confidence. I think we will be ok and he will be replaced by an improved squad instead of anyone who is better.
Pinning our hopes on Conteh who I'm excited about seeing but is very much at the start of his career is optimistic.
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Any buying team can ram their 250k - we want at least double that. I’d say he’s as fit as a Premier League player, and good enough for L1, definitely. 250k simply wouldn’t be enough. Personally I’d say 500k minimum, ideally 750k.
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Any buying team can ram their 250k - we want at least double that. I’d say he’s as fit as a Premier League player, and good enough for L1, definitely. 250k simply wouldn’t be enough. Personally I’d say 500k minimum, ideally 750k.


Good luck with that. Can't see much above 200k.


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Any buying team can ram their 250k - we want at least double that. I’d say he’s as fit as a Premier League player, and good enough for L1, definitely. 250k simply wouldn’t be enough. Personally I’d say 500k minimum, ideally 750k.


Think you've been smoking Heisenbergs product!

250ish with a good sell on clause would be a great deal.
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Think you've been smoking Heisenbergs product!

250ish with a good sell on clause would be a great deal.


It’s all about opinions, and I accept yours as being possibly that of the majority. But 250k shouldn’t buy you a player like Harry in this day and age. I think 250k would be us having our pants taken down. Having said that, if the chance comes to double or treble his wages and play in a higher division, then we shouldn’t put up too much of a fight as he deserves it.
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Any buying team can ram their 250k - we want at least double that. I’d say he’s as fit as a Premier League player, and good enough for L1, definitely. 250k simply wouldn’t be enough. Personally I’d say 500k minimum, ideally 750k.


It's a risk V reward isn't it if he want's to go and won't sign another contract (i don't know what the situation is )

Is Harry going to make the difference to get us out of league 2 ,so you keep him  for the final year and take £0 (I think more of him than to say he might down tools , he would not ; but he is then 1 bad  injury away from not having a contract )

Hurst probably think's 250k + his wage would improve us and would back himself to recruit better overall with that, and it's difficult to doubt him .

FWIW I do hope he stays , because players staying with one club throughout their career is very rare now and for him to go with us on what will be an exciting journey from failure to success would be quite special and he could clock up similiar appearances to what Macca did,and no doubt be treated better at the finale .

Whatever happens I wish Harry well
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It’s all about opinions, and I accept yours as being possibly that of the majority. But 250k shouldn’t buy you a player like Harry in this day and age. I think 250k would be us having our pants taken down. Having said that, if the chance comes to double or treble his wages and play in a higher division, then we shouldn’t put up too much of a fight as he deserves it.


As per my earlier post, I think Harry’s a fantastic player and a credit to his club, but I’m not sure there’s much precedence for a 25 year-old League Two midfielder going for north of £500k (or the equivalent factoring in inflation).

Knock a couple of years off his age or add another year on his contract and you’re probably right, but as things are I think our best hope is to load any deal with add-ones and hope he goes from strength-to-strength in the future.


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As per my earlier post, I think Harry’s a fantastic player and a credit to his club, but I’m not sure there’s much precedence for a 25 year-old League Two midfielder going for north of £500k (or the equivalent based factoring in inflation).

Knock a couple of years off his age or add another year on his contract and you’re probably right, but as things are I think our best hope is to load any deal with add-ones and hope he goes from strength-to-strength in future.


Poojah - does he only have a single year left on his contract? I must admit I thought he had two….

That might change our situation hugely, I admit.
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After watching Wales recently they could do with Harry's energy, a move up the football pyamid may help his chances of getting a full international cap, if the lad is to move than a good sell on clause including international appearances in it.
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After watching Wales recently they could do with Harry's energy, a move up the football pyamid may help his chances of getting a full international cap, if the lad is to move than a good sell on clause including international appearances in it.


That’s a good point, wales are struggling now that Bale and Ramsey aren’t on the scene. Always likely to happen. I’d say Harry does deserve it (even though he’s really English x).
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Poojah - does he only have a single year left on his contract? I must admit I thought he had two….

That might change our situation hugely, I admit.


Signed a two-year deal last summer, expiring in June 2024.

https://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=4202


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I also heard a rumour that he has been getting folks turn up at his house, asking for shirts and for him to sign stuff.
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I also heard a rumour that he has been getting folks turn up at his house, asking for shirts and for him to sign stuff.


To be fair, that’s when you know you’ve made it. I’ve lived near players before and nobody has given them that sort of attention.

I know we can’t really imagine what that’s like, but it’s not like he’s Brad Pitt. The odd family turning up at his doorstep must be a kick, surely?
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depends how odd
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I also heard a rumour that he has been getting folks turn up at his house, asking for shirts and for him to sign stuff.


That is a bit weird, and if people are doing that, you have to consider that they may turn up at his house if things aren't going well too.
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That is a bit weird, and if people are doing that, you have to consider that they may turn up at his house if things aren't going well too.


Maybe they’re from Barnsley? There’s bloody loads of them around here at the minute, as with every year.
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I also heard a rumour that he has been getting folks turn up at his house, asking for shirts and for him to sign stuff.


Do they think he has a bunch of shirts lying around to give away or something? Maybe they keep a few from special occasions for personal memories but as I understand it the shirts given away are usually from the club to charity and if a player chooses to give away a shirt outside of a pre agreed swapping of shirts or something then they have to pay for it, maybe the club eats the cost if they agreed beforehand to give out shirts after a game as a gesture to fans. Not a dent in the wallets of star PL players but probably not going to see Harry giving away a shirt per game or out his back door.

That's always been a bit weird to me anyway, sure on a match day bring something to sign and the players will probably be happy to take a few minutes to sign for people between the warm up before the game but going to a players home and knocking on the door to ask them to sign stuff? Bit much. Imagine you just sat down with your dinner and Netflix and a whole family shows up at your door asking you to sign stuff lol.
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Normal inflation has 250k working out at approximately 130k in 1996. Which is around the fee we paid for Darren Wrack.

Football inflation definitely doesn't follow the normal rules of inflation at all, that 250k is probably closer to 75k in mid 90's money.

I don't think we've got a recent and relevant example to compare it too. Players sold at this level tend to be strikers. Those that aren't strikers are young prospects with 10-12 years ahead of them, Bennett for example as a close to home one.

250k for a 25 year old who's not yet performed outside the 4th and 5th tier...I don't think it's too shabby when you consider what we could do with that money.  The value, as others have said will come in a sell-on.  We're never selling anyone for millions when we're at this level. Barnsley will fancy themselves to go up again this year. Anyone who impresses in a side going up to the second tier and then continues to do so then carries a price tag of £5mill and upwards, comfortably.  We get 25% of that and we really value the sale.

Perhaps we hold out for an extra 50k but lose 10% sell on... But I'd rather we focused on the best sell-on personally.
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Isn't £250k what we got for Pollock? And Macatee?
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Isn't £250k what we got for Pollock? And Macatee?


The rumours were 250k for Pollock, and 400k for McAtee. But who knows in these days of perennial non disclosure…..
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Isn't £250k what we got for Pollock? And Macatee?


Something like that. There’s an element of swings and roundabouts to each deal though; Pollock and McAtee were both younger than Clifton is now, particularly Pollock who was only 19. McAtee, whilst clearly a mercurial talent, had only really stood out at National League level, and some might argue that remains to be the case.

Either way, I think (like others) that would £250k represent a decent wedge for a midfielder in his mid-twenties, even if it feels a bit like selling the family jewels. Time will tell what happens.


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£350k for McAtee I think. Pollock the best prospect we’ve had in a long while but needed a lot of work & had just been in the team that finished bottom of the football league. Would like to see him have a good 6 months at Watford, for someone on Talksport to call him the next John Terry, then Todd Boehly get his chequebook out for £50m in Jan.
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Is there any truth in this Clifton rumour? It just seems to have been made up by a Lincoln fan on twitter
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Celta Vigo offered me £750k for Clifton on fifa last night, I said NO, he’s not ‘keeping el shape’ on the costa, he’s staying put. Hursty will likewise turn down any offers for HC. He’s not going anywhere
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£350k for McAtee I think. Pollock the best prospect we’ve had in a long while but needed a lot of work & had just been in the team that finished bottom of the football league. Would like to see him have a good 6 months at Watford, for someone on Talksport to call him the next John Terry, then Todd Boehly get his chequebook out for £50m in Jan.


250k plus add ons for McAtee, which still looks like a cracking deal
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250k plus add ons for McAtee, which still looks like a cracking deal


I personally think we will look at McAtee in a few years and think we did exceptionally well out of that deal.
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McAtee had just turned 23 (2 years younger than what Harry is now) and stood out to many as one of, if not the, best player in the Conference.  

Also a forward which adds value to any transfer.  

I'm in agreement with Lew, that's a cracking piece of business when you consider how last season went for him.  I actually think Clifton is probably worth more to a side, especially higher up the ladder, than McAtee will be, which almost make a similar value seem disappointing in some respects. But I think it just highlights that we had Luton's pants down a bit with that one.

Truth be told, I can't image we'll make much (if anything) from any add-on figures from McAtee. They tend to be a percentage over the original fee. (20% of a £1million future transfer would equal 20% of £750,000) I can't imagine Luton recouping their money on him unless he goes onto have a really, really good loan spell somewhere this season.
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What we need is an injury crisis for attacking midfielders at Luton, McAtee forced into the lineup and put on penalties, corners and free kicks. Sounds like he might qualify for an Ireland call-up through the Tony Cascarino route, so a good run through to Euro 2024 for The Boys in Green would be nice, along with a similar no.10 crisis in the summer.

Think the last two years have warped my sense of football fortune.
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What we need is an injury crisis for attacking midfielders at Luton, McAtee forced into the lineup and put on penalties, corners and free kicks. Sounds like he might qualify for an Ireland call-up through the Tony Cascarino route, so a good run through to Euro 2024 for The Boys in Green would be nice, along with a similar no.10 crisis in the summer.

Think the last two years have warped my sense of football fortune.


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McAtee had just turned 23 (2 years younger than what Harry is now) and stood out to many as one of, if not the, best player in the Conference.  

Also a forward which adds value to any transfer.  

I'm in agreement with Lew, that's a cracking piece of business when you consider how last season went for him.  I actually think Clifton is probably worth more to a side, especially higher up the ladder, than McAtee will be, which almost make a similar value seem disappointing in some respects. But I think it just highlights that we had Luton's pants down a bit with that one.

Truth be told, I can't image we'll make much (if anything) from any add-on figures from McAtee. They tend to be a percentage over the original fee. (20% of a £1million future transfer would equal 20% of £750,000) I can't imagine Luton recouping their money on him unless he goes onto have a really, really good loan spell somewhere this season.


I think what is even more telling is the fact that when he came most people (myself included) thought he would be an absolute flop, going on to succeed where most thought he was a given failure.

1 league game at Shrewsbury, who loaned him out five times, his best return being 4 goals in 10 for Halesowen, but had culminated in 1 goal in 19 for Curzon Ashton.

His time at Scunthorpe was up and down, mainly down and after Hurst left he struggled. Every Scunny fan I spoke with said he had glimpses of talent but was largely wasteful with a questionable attitude and with a goal return of 5 in 58 in all competitions he was hardly pulling trees up. When he turned down a new contract at Scunthorpe to come to Town, I can't recall hearing a single complaint from them, it was more along the lines of we did them a favour.

12 months later, the guy has played out of skin, finished top scorer, scored two very good decisive goals in getting us promoted and played his socks off.

So to bolster the original opinion we did very well to get a good wedge for him. I think as he is now, he's capable of being a very good League Two player if you put him in a team of good players, I just hope that Luton's promotion hasn't scuppered his chances of playing for him, as clearly he was bought when they were a middling Championship team. It really wouldn't surprise me if he ends up somewhere on loan at some point next season.

Best of luck to him, wish him the very best in his caeer.


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Not based from the pre season games we've seen by any means etc but is it just me or do other supporters also think we need another striker at the club ?


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Quoted from Mendonca1995
Not based from the pre season games we've seen by any means etc but is it just me or do other supporters also think we need another striker at the club ?


Yes, definitely - we need a big lump for sure! Josh Umerah?
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Yes, definitely - we need a big lump for sure! Josh Umerah?


I have to agree I'd love umerah to sign


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I think the squad numbers on display say alot ATM. If you look at the Clee Town performance, Edwin Essel had the number 9 shirt on and Braithwaite 14. I will say they are temporarily holding those shirts as 2 more to come in before season starts, one being a No. 9 striker. Regarding the 14 though am not sure what shirt no. Otis Khan will be given
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I think the squad numbers on display say alot ATM. If you look at the Clee Town performance, Edwin Essel had the number 9 shirt on and Braithwaite 14. I will say they are temporarily holding those shirts as 2 more to come in before season starts, one being a No. 9 striker. Regarding the 14 though am not sure what shirt no. Otis Khan will be given


I know for certain that players werent wearing squad numbers for the Grimsby Borough game, but not sure about the Cleethorpes game. They could just be totally random with the 1st half XI getting the pick of the shirts available
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So any new lump will look for the 3 XL shirt?

Could there be 2 distinct home and away formations and player selections as Plans A and B ?
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Is this lad from Newcastle on loan still coming ?

I think we might pick one or two more up , but at least we are not desperately scratching around near deadline day needing players - a refreshing change .

Maybe an Emmanuel type signing , or high quality loan will pop up that Hurst fancies but I am quite content with what we have .

You would havr thought Umerah will get a league 1 club and will be out of our price range.
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I know for certain that players werent wearing squad numbers for the Grimsby Borough game, but not sure about the Cleethorpes game. They could just be totally random with the 1st half XI getting the pick of the shirts available


I think there was a bit of a mix against Clee. Rose was wearing 7 but he's always been 32. I would assume Otis keeps that.
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I think there was a bit of a mix against Clee. Rose was wearing 7 but he's always been 32. I would assume Otis keeps that.


Kahn was 11 last season, pretty sure Eisa had 7 on his shorts in training, with Pyke wearing 9.


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I think we need one more striker but I get the feeling (based purely on one interview) that Hurst doesn’t. He mentioned something about not really needing a proven scorer but instead trying to get players to produce their best form here, he cited Rose and Pyke in particular.

It’s an interesting point he makes, there’s examples of those players who just ‘click’ in this league and the one above, a lot of players who looked like nothing & just exploded into life. My worry with it is, they’re few & far between and basing your striking options on that hope is a risk.
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I think we need one more striker, but I get the feeling (based purely on one interview) that Hurst doesn’t. He mentioned something about not really needing a proven scorer but instead trying to get players to produce their best form here, he cited Rose and Pyke in particular.

It’s an interesting point he makes, there are examples of those players who just ‘click’ in this league and the one above, a lot of players who looked like nothing & just exploded into life. My worry with it is, they’re few & far between, and basing your striking options on that hope is a risk.


It would just be another option to change things around. It all depends on the defence they are playing against. To get a 'named' player in that position, but not guarantee him a start, would be unlikely, but get another player like Mani who was a nuisance to defences when he came on, and you have the perfect stooge for a big man up front.
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I thought we would be going into the season playing with one up top and then Vernam/Eisa/Khan and perhaps AN Other supporting from wide.   But Hurst played the full game against Clee with a 4-4-2 and then the first half against 'Boro with that system.  If it is 4-4-2, or a variation that requires two strikers up there, then we will need another in.  We can't rely on Rose, Pyke and Wilson for the whole campaign.  I know there's an argument that you could, if pushed, play Vernam or Eisa up there and then of course there's Essel.  But neither of those options would really convince in my eyes.

Apologies for who it was but I've forgotten, but someone said on here after the Clee game that they think Hurst has gone 4-4-2 in pre-season so he can get to see more of his strikers rather than because it's the system he's going with.  I'm not so sure.  I think he's seeing what pairings are going across the whole front six.   I wouldn't be surprised if we rotate between 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 now.  But I think the 4-4-2 will only see one proper winger in it, so perhaps Eisa on the right and Khouri on the left.  Or Clifton on the right and Vernam on the left.

Either way, I think there will be another coming in up top - despite what Hurst is saying.  I get his point about getting the best out of players but Wilson and Pyke are largely unproven, especially with their goal return.  I think both look promising as hell, but if Rose is injured/out of form etc. than we're very, very light up top and lacking a proven frontman.  

Rose's leap and movement makes him a perfect frontman, he doesn't need to be 6ft2.  Pyke and Wilson are both fairly solid too, if not giants either.  But there needs to be a variety I guess.  I'm not convinced Hurst will go for a man mountain but an alternative is probably in his mind.  

I don't recall Umerah playing against us and doing that man mountain role to be honest.  He was physical and used his body well but he wasn't just a lump.  Regards if we could be in for him...why not?  Yeah he was in a crap side last year but he only got 12 in the league.  Without doubt that could improve with better service but I don't think it's a case that everyone will be in for him either.
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We're definitely lacking height up top. I get that Rose is a nuisance and is decent in the air but there'll undoubtedly be times next season that we'll be wanting the option of a bit more physicality up top. It's all well and good saying that such and such who is 5'11" is built and knows how to use his body weight but the fact of that matter is that a player who is 6'3" and built and knows how to use his body weight is gonna win more aerial battles and gives us another way of playing. Not talking about getting on the end of deliveries into the box here either, by the way. I'm talking about when we need to resort to lumping it. I don't know a lot about the forwards we've signed but I'd be surprised if they consistently get the better of L2 CBs in that final third/middle of the opponent's half that you often see these duels commence.

I thought we'd potentially be going bigger all over going off pre-window comments from Hurst but we've probably got smaller as a squad, certainly up top that's the case.

I've heard a few people who often seem to have snippets of intel say that we are still in for a big lump striker but obviously you never really know how much to trust these kind of sources.

I'd be a bit wary of Umerah personally, the general consensus coming out of Hartlepool seems to be that he was dynamite for half a season and tailed off dramatically and looked completely uninterested at the back end of the season.
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We're definitely lacking height up top. I get that Rose is a nuisance and is decent in the air but there'll undoubtedly be times next season that we'll be wanting the option of a bit more physicality up top. It's all well and good saying that such and such who is 5'11" is built and knows how to use his body weight but the fact of that matter is that a player who is 6'3" and built and knows how to use his body weight is gonna win more aerial battles and gives us another way of playing. Not talking about getting on the end of deliveries into the box here either, by the way. I'm talking about when we need to resort to lumping it. I don't know a lot about the forwards we've signed but I'd be surprised if they consistently get the better of L2 CBs in that final third/middle of the opponent's half that you often see these duels commence.

I thought we'd potentially be going bigger all over going off pre-window comments from Hurst but we've probably got smaller as a squad, certainly up top that's the case.

I've heard a few people who often seem to have snippets of intel say that we are still in for a big lump striker but obviously you never really know how much to trust these kind of sources.

I'd be a bit wary of Umerah personally, the general consensus coming out of Hartlepool seems to be that he was dynamite for half a season and tailed off dramatically and looked completely uninterested at the back end of the season.


I’m not mithered about his form at the bottom-end of last season, what does he have with his chips?
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It’ll be interesting to see how we look to play next season. Like others have said Hurst’s comments last season suggested we’d be going for a bigger more physical side this season. But I don’t really think the recruitment this Summer points to that.
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It’ll be interesting to see how we look to play next season. Like others have said Hurst’s comments last season suggested we’d be going for a bigger more physical side this season. But I don’t really think the recruitment this Summer points to that.


On  a physical front we think height and body mass but I think he's gone for players who can play football and not be bullied. Ryan Taylor and McAtee were tall lads but not units, however that striker combination of a player who can hold the ball up and play a bit with an understanding of their strike partner is more dangerous than a big lad with limited footballing credentials putting himself about.
It's clear Hurst wants to play football with the players he has and I would rather he remains true to that. A clear playing philosophy with the right players to execute it, is how we are going to compete in this league
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Physically I think we look more competitive than last season .  Pyke and Wilson have what I'd call lean strength.  They're not units but they're strong. Bit of pace about them too.  Vernam and Eisa the same, they're quicker than what we've had previously.  Conteh physically is an upgrade on Morris.

Actual height wise, probably not.  Rodgers and Mullarkey are big lads but as were Pearson and Smith.  I don't think we struggled with height in defence last year.  Midfield we did and maybe Conteh is bigger than Morris, I dunno.  Morris wasn't great in the air though, no idea what Conteh is like.  We definitely competed better aerially in there when Green played.  Up top it looks like the balls going forward will be wide rather than central, I can see a large proportion of our assists coming from wide areas after quick switches of play.
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The Sutton United fan we know said that Wilson is strong on the ball when he's in possession and can turn players and break away, though often without an end result. Not much cop in the air, apparently, so we don't want to be whacking it up for him, unless it's a ball over the top.
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I thought we would be going into the season playing with one up top and then Vernam/Eisa/Khan and perhaps AN Other supporting from wide.   But Hurst played the full game against Clee with a 4-4-2 and then the first half against 'Boro with that system.  If it is 4-4-2, or a variation that requires two strikers up there, then we will need another in.  We can't rely on Rose, Pyke and Wilson for the whole campaign.  I know there's an argument that you could, if pushed, play Vernam or Eisa up there and then of course there's Essel.  But neither of those options would really convince in my eyes.

Apologies for who it was but I've forgotten, but someone said on here after the Clee game that they think Hurst has gone 4-4-2 in pre-season so he can get to see more of his strikers rather than because it's the system he's going with.  I'm not so sure.  I think he's seeing what pairings are going across the whole front six.   I wouldn't be surprised if we rotate between 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 now.  But I think the 4-4-2 will only see one proper winger in it, so perhaps Eisa on the right and Khouri on the left.  Or Clifton on the right and Vernam on the left.

Either way, I think there will be another coming in up top - despite what Hurst is saying.  I get his point about getting the best out of players but Wilson and Pyke are largely unproven, especially with their goal return.  I think both look promising as hell, but if Rose is injured/out of form etc. than we're very, very light up top and lacking a proven frontman.  

Rose's leap and movement makes him a perfect frontman, he doesn't need to be 6ft2.  Pyke and Wilson are both fairly solid too, if not giants either.  But there needs to be a variety I guess.  I'm not convinced Hurst will go for a man mountain but an alternative is probably in his mind.  

I don't recall Umerah playing against us and doing that man mountain role to be honest.  He was physical and used his body well but he wasn't just a lump.  Regards if we could be in for him...why not?  Yeah he was in a crap side last year but he only got 12 in the league.  Without doubt that could improve with better service but I don't think it's a case that everyone will be in for him either.


Why would we go with a CM on one of the wings, when we have brought in 2 wingers and 2 more who are competent playing as wingers as well as Otis Khan who is a winger too?

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Why would we go with a CM on one of the wings, when we have brought in 2 wingers and 2 more who are competent playing as wingers as well as Otis Khan who is a winger too?



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Why would we go with a CM on one of the wings, when we have brought in 2 wingers and 2 more who are competent playing as wingers as well as Otis Khan who is a winger too?


Because Clifton is way more versatile and can tuck into the midfield and essentially allow us to switch between formations.
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Physically I think we look more competitive than last season .  Pyke and Wilson have what I'd call lean strength.  They're not units but they're strong. Bit of pace about them too.  Vernam and Eisa the same, they're quicker than what we've had previously.  Conteh physically is an upgrade on Morris.

Actual height wise, probably not.  Rodgers and Mullarkey are big lads but as were Pearson and Smith.  I don't think we struggled with height in defence last year.  Midfield we did and maybe Conteh is bigger than Morris, I dunno.  Morris wasn't great in the air though, no idea what Conteh is like.  We definitely competed better aerially in there when Green played.  Up top it looks like the balls going forward will be wide rather than central, I can see a large proportion of our assists coming from wide areas after quick switches of play.


Exactly this. There's also a common misconception that by having a "lump" it will be easier to hold the ball up. The target area for balls forward is far greater if the striker is strong and quick rather than a unit and less mobile. I'm not that fussed about having a predictable one-dimensional lump myself, I'd much rather have pace and mobility. Defenders don't mind having a target man in front of them and they hate pacy players playing off their shoulder. Physicality is not just height and strength, even though we seem to have added that, it also means pace, and we've added that too by the looks of it..
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Let's add actual movement to that mix too.  Taylor was a big bloke, he was decent in the air and could hold it up.  But it relied, especially last season, for the ball to be delivered within a pretty close proximity to him.

Padraig Amond was as good as a leader of the line I've seen in a Town shirt for quite a few years.  Probably Gary Jones before him.  He wasn't big, strong nor particularly great aerially (I'm talking in terms of contesting for headers, his actual heading of the ball was sublime).  But he used his movement and reading of the game to lead the line.  He anticipated and dictated where the ball was going.  He got in front of his defenders, often by just sitting on their shoulder long enough before nipping in.  It doesn't matter what the size difference is between attacker and defender, if the attacker gets in front of the defender before the ball arrives there's sod all the defender can do other than go through the man and concede a free-kick.  

I think Rose will lead our line in the same way Amond did.
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Because Clifton is way more versatile and can tuck into the midfield and essentially allow us to switch between formations.


Exactly.  Same with Khouri on the other side if needed.

It'll be about having a lopsided midfield, whoever the 'proper' winger is will be high.  Whoever is playing on the other flank will drift inside a bit more so the other two midfielders can nudge across and cover that higher winger.   It'll also give more space and freedom for the fullback to bomb on at will.

It'll look something like this.

Efete - Maher - Rodgers
                                         Glennon
        Conteh - Hunt - Khouri
Eisa
               Rose Pyke
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I assume you have discussed this with PH
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No, he's happy for me to just ask all the players to log on here and see what the tactic for the next game is.
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I think Rose will lead our line in the same way Amond did.


I f*cking hope so!


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No, he's happy for me to just ask all the players to log on here and see what the tactic for the next game is.


That does explain a couple of last year's selections and approaches to games.


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Let's add actual movement to that mix too.  Taylor was a big bloke, he was decent in the air and could hold it up.  But it relied, especially last season, for the ball to be delivered within a pretty close proximity to him.

Padraig Amond was as good as a leader of the line I've seen in a Town shirt for quite a few years.  Probably Gary Jones before him.  He wasn't big, strong nor particularly great aerially (I'm talking in terms of contesting for headers, his actual heading of the ball was sublime).  But he used his movement and reading of the game to lead the line.  He anticipated and dictated where the ball was going.  He got in front of his defenders, often by just sitting on their shoulder long enough before nipping in.  It doesn't matter what the size difference is between attacker and defender, if the attacker gets in front of the defender before the ball arrives there's sod all the defender can do other than go through the man and concede a free-kick.  

I think Rose will lead our line in the same way Amond did.


Amond never played above non league level for us. Very hard to judge.
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Exactly.  Same with Khouri on the other side if needed.

It'll be about having a lopsided midfield, whoever the 'proper' winger is will be high.  Whoever is playing on the other flank will drift inside a bit more so the other two midfielders can nudge across and cover that higher winger.   It'll also give more space and freedom for the fullback to bomb on at will.

It'll look something like this.

Efete - Maher - Rodgers
                                         Glennon
        Conteh - Hunt - Khouri
Eisa
               Rose Pyke


Khouri ahead of Kahn and alongside two other very young midfielders? Not sure how likely that is.


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Would think at the moment the team may start more like this...

                      Eastwood

Efete.    Waterfall.     Maher     Glennon

        Clifton      Green.     Conteh

          Pyke.     Rose.     Vernam


With a wealth of options to keep the starting 11 on their toes.




    
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Would think at the moment the team may start more like this...

                      Eastwood

Efete.    Waterfall.     Maher     Glennon

        Clifton      Green.     Conteh

          Pyke.     Rose.     Vernam


With a wealth of options to keep the starting 11 on their toes.

    


Do we know when we might get sight of Harvey Cartwright in a Town shirt? He’s been in Turkey with Hull but doesn’t appear to have had any game time. Will they allow him to feature against them on Saturday?


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Do we know when we might get sight of Harvey Cartwright in a Town shirt? He’s been in Turkey with Hull but doesn’t appear to have had any game time. Will they allow him to feature against them on Saturday?


Plays the full game on Saturday, saves a penno in front of their fans...

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Emile Acquah, the big Maidenhead forward who’s been linked with us a couple of times in the last window or two, signs for Barrow.

Tweet 1678819033158676482 will appear here...


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It'll look something like this.

Efete - Maher - Rodgers
                                         Glennon
        Conteh - Hunt - Khouri
Eisa
               Rose Pyke


I'd be quite worried if that was our central midfield, not one of them has a decent track record (as yet) of performing consistently in League 2 let alone all playing together. Seems a bit fantasy football to me.
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I think Rose will lead our line in the same way Amond did.


That's also quite a wild prediction, Rose has scored 11 goals in 118 games since 2020 (playing for decent teams)
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That's also quite a wild prediction, Rose has scored 11 goals in 118 games since 2020 (playing for decent teams)


He offers more than goals, otherwise he wouldn't have got to play 118 games over the past 3 seasons.

Not to mention that the 2 teams he played for were both in the promotion spots, so he must offer something.

Northampton narrowly missed promotion while Stevenage went up. He led the line for both teams.
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He offers more than goals, otherwise he wouldn't have got to play 118 games over the past 3 seasons.

Not to mention that the 2 teams he played for were both in the promotion spots, so he must offer something.

Northampton narrowly missed promotion while Stevenage went up. He led the line for both teams.


Yeah, not suggesting he’s not a good player. Just making the point that saying he’ll lead the line like Podge seems a bit odd.
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Exactly.  Same with Khouri on the other side if needed.

It'll be about having a lopsided midfield, whoever the 'proper' winger is will be high.  Whoever is playing on the other flank will drift inside a bit more so the other two midfielders can nudge across and cover that higher winger.   It'll also give more space and freedom for the fullback to bomb on at will.

It'll look something like this.

Efete - Maher - Rodgers
                                         Glennon
        Conteh - Hunt - Khouri
Eisa
               Rose Pyke


This has triggered a few but Hurst has shown in the past that he quite likes a lopsided midfield. Your midfield 3 has triggered some for sure but I would expect Eisa (or whoever it is) to swap wings and change the balance. A midfield 3 that includes Clifton and Khouri could potentially offer that flexibility really well. Rose to stay central at all times and Pyke (or Wilson) to drift wide and support the attacking full back.
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Rose is going to be coming out onto the left to “do a Monkhouse”, offering a longer option & winning flick-ons for Glennon or another attacker. Mark my words.
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Rose is going to be coming out onto the left to “do a Monkhouse”, offering a longer option & winning flick-ons for Glennon or another attacker. Mark my words.


Good point that, and we will probably only get promoted because Rose is injured for the play-off final.

I heard on a podcast a while ago that Big Keith used to send Ben Futcher up to win the header at goal kicks!
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What is clear from this discussion is we have a lot more options this year, and ones that are genuinely quite exciting.

A front four of Eisa, Khan, Vernam and Rose is miles ahead of what we had last year. I’m really looking forward to what we might see from them. Also, Glennon having someone to hit who is very good in the air is going to be another great addition on last season. I do bang in about it but Glennon has the best delivery from wide areas in this league imo.


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Exactly.  Same with Khouri on the other side if needed.

It'll be about having a lopsided midfield, whoever the 'proper' winger is will be high.  Whoever is playing on the other flank will drift inside a bit more so the other two midfielders can nudge across and cover that higher winger.   It'll also give more space and freedom for the fullback to bomb on at will.

It'll look something like this.

Efete - Maher - Rodgers
                                         Glennon
        Conteh - Hunt - Khouri
Eisa
               Rose Pyke


Looking at Mullarkey in the 2 friendlies I think he will play right back
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It all seems very quiet now, the rumours have all but dried up too. Is that the majority of Town’s business done?

Maybe a late addition towards the end of the window but it looks like PH is nearly there with his Squad.

Thought we may go for another striker and maybe one more midfielder.
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Looking at Mullarkey in the 2 friendlies I think he will play right back

Was it Mullarkey that did that chop inside from the right towards the end of the Grimsby Borough highlights? Wasn't expecting him to have that in his locker. El General going loco for the ball playing tiki-taka defenders.
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This has triggered a few but Hurst has shown in the past that he quite likes a lopsided midfield. Your midfield 3 has triggered some for sure but I would expect Eisa (or whoever it is) to swap wings and change the balance. A midfield 3 that includes Clifton and Khouri could potentially offer that flexibility really well. Rose to stay central at all times and Pyke (or Wilson) to drift wide and support the attacking full back.


Yeah I'm gonna be honest and say I was a bit surprised that people focused on the players involved.  I literally just chucked names into those positions, the first ones that came to my mind and with no other thought process behind it.  I wasn't selecting my preferred XI.   The point was that I think when we play 4-4-2 it will be lopsided with a central midfielder on one side of a four, almost in an inverted style to allow the other flank to play higher and the fullback behind to bomb on.

Ah well.
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Yeah, not suggesting he’s not a good player. Just making the point that saying he’ll lead the line like Podge seems a bit odd.


But I wasn't saying he'll score goals like Podge, I said he'll lead the line in a similar style.  

I honestly don't think we'll ever see another feat of goals in a single season like that again.  
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CDAJATL?  - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66171076

Kazuyoshi Miura, the world's oldest professional footballer at 56, has extended his stay with Portuguese second-tier side Oliveirense.

The ex-Japan striker joined Oliveirense on loan in January from Yokohama and will continue with them on that basis for an undisclosed duration.

Miura has played just 28 minutes of football this year, spread over three substitute appearances.

Yokohama and Oliveirense have the same Japanese owners.

Miura was named man of the match on the final day of the Portuguese season after a 26-minute cameo in a 4-3 win over Leixoes. The opposition manager said the decision was "offensive" and turned it into a "circus".

Miura, who started his career with Brazilian side Santos in 1986, has been at Yokohama FC since 2005 - although he had a loan spell in 2022 at fourth-tier Suzuka Point Getters, who are managed by his older brother Yasutoshi, where he scored twice in 18 games.

He has also played club football in Italy, Croatia and Australia.

The Japanese football legend scored 55 goals in 89 games in an international career which ended 23 years ago.

He has previously talked of playing until he is 60.
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Josh Emmanuel is still without a club I see.
Would it be worth Town going back to him with a one year deal?
I know we are a bit heavy in the defensive department but Josh can also play as a winger and is surely too good for league 2 level
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Josh Emmanuel is still without a club I see.
Would it be worth Town going back to him with a one year deal?
I know we are a bit heavy in the defensive department but Josh can also play as a winger and is surely too good for league 2 level


is he? he was nothing more than average for us. Yes i understand he was coming back from a long spell out the game but i really didn't- and still don't get the big hoo-hah about him
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Quoted from Stew0_0
Josh Emmanuel is still without a club I see.
Would it be worth Town going back to him with a one year deal?
I know we are a bit heavy in the defensive department but Josh can also play as a winger and is surely too good for league 2 level



Strange we just let him go without making him a offer, but I am sure PH knew what he was doing.



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Not sure what's gone on with Emmanuel.  Looked nailed on to be joining Peterborough but nothing so far, hasn't featured in their first two friendlies either.

I don't think I'd take him anyway.  He was exceptional in patches (that 15 minute spell away at Northampton) but overall I don't think he did anywhere near enough to justify another year, nor the interest from a higher level.  I know and accept that he came here with 18 months out of action and did incredibly well to hit the ground running, but is he better defensively than what we've got in Efete and Mullarkey?  I think not.  Going forward I didn't really like him as a winger and I don't think he's better than what we've got there either.  

I wouldn't be disappointed if he ended up back here, you would hope that he improves with a full pre-season behind him etc. But we're well stocked in that department and not sure he would fit into how we look to be set up this year.
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is he? he was nothing more than average for us. Yes i understand he was coming back from a long spell out the game but i really didn't- and still don't get the big hoo-hah about him


I thought he showed glimpses of his class, particularly going forward (Northampton away, the standout), whilst looking a little out of sorts at others. Ultimately though, he’s spent the bulk of his career in League One and the Championship, so you’d imagine given time that he’d be capable of becoming a class act at this level.

Still, I suspect his lack of a club is less to do with his ability but more to do with the gap between what he was earning at Hull and what clubs are prepared to offer him having suffered a potentially serious medical episode. It looks as though we’ll go with Efete and Mullarkey as our right-backs anyway, so unlikely he’ll be back here any time soon.


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This is a  strange one because his form in the early games was very good. Then just when I thought he was reaching top form it kind of fizzled out
Wonder who made the call about him leaving, PH or Josh himself?
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Josh emmanuel was the best right back we've had for a few years. Would love to have him back.


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Josh emmanuel was the best right back we've had for a few years. Would love to have him back.


He's not even in the top 2, Magnay and Tait are the best two right backs we've had since Mcdermott.
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All about opinions but in mine he wasn't even the best right-back in the squad last season.
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Josh emmanuel was the best right back we've had for a few years. Would love to have him back.


I thought he was fantastic at wingback and alright at right back.

He's clearly got quality above the level though.
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He's not even in the top 2, Magnay and Tait are the best two right backs we've had since Mcdermott.


And no-one thought we would match, never mind improve, on Magnay.  Yet we did so with Tait.  
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Have to agree with the majority, so far, that Emmanuel was ok but nothing special. Might be his approach but he looked half-arsed and like he was doing us a favour by turning out for us. Other than the Northampton game not really remember him doing anything special going forward and was no more than average defensively so happy if we stick with what we have at right back.
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I think Emmanuel is clearly a player with ability above our level, that's just a fact looking at his career history. The issue is how long if ever it'll take him to rediscover that after such a long time out the game. I think we saw enough when he was here to suggest there are signs of that and personally I would snap your hand off to have him back if just for the possibility if he does rediscover that form it will benefit the team and also maybe give us a saleable asset. If he doesn't we wouldn't really lose much as he was more than competent at this level last season if not spectacular would be well worth the gamble..


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Have to agree with the majority, so far, that Emmanuel was ok but nothing special. Might be his approach but he looked half-arsed and like he was doing us a favour by turning out for us. Other than the Northampton game not really remember him doing anything special going forward and was no more than average defensively so happy if we stick with what we have at right back.


He was excellent at Soton.

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I thought he was fantastic at wingback and alright at right back.

He's clearly got quality above the level though.


Have to agree there. The defensive side of his game seemed somewhat lacking at times but excellent going forward and a great outlet for attacking as he could move well and beat players. Much more of a wing back.
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Have to agree there. The defensive side of his game seemed somewhat lacking at times but excellent going forward and a great outlet for attacking as he could move well and beat players. Much more of a wing back.


Yeah agreed, had that spell in the Northampton game, wonbthe first pen at southampton and generally had a knack of sucking in his marker, turning his back and then wiggling past them. Very good attacking wing back, didn't look as good at full back.

Would be happy to have him back but looks like he is probably expecting more than even league 1 clubs are prepared to spend, he's certainly not worth pushing the boat out for.
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So looks like no more signings coming for the foreseeable. PH wants to take stock and see how things pan out
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Seen it mentioned on Twitter, wonder if Jake Young could be an option as that extra striker? He’s been told he’s free to find another club by Bradford, and we was looking at him in January. Had a tough season last year but at only 21 he’s still got potential.
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Seen it mentioned on Twitter, wonder if Jake Young could be an option as that extra striker? He’s been told he’s free to find another club by Bradford, and we was looking at him in January. Had a tough season last year but at only 21 he’s still got potential.


Omari Patrick left Carlisle this summer despite his club wanting him to extend his stay . A very useful performer either outside or up front
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Seen it mentioned on Twitter, wonder if Jake Young could be an option as that extra striker? He’s been told he’s free to find another club by Bradford, and we was looking at him in January. Had a tough season last year but at only 21 he’s still got potential.


I reckon that omari Patrick is a better option (and without a club) but, your knowledge on these matters is far superior to anyone’s on here

* re-reading this it sounds sarcastic. Not meant in that way at all


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Omari Patrick left Carlisle this summer despite his club wanting him to extend his stay . A very useful performer either outside or up front


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I think not offering Emmanuel a new deal was the first sign that we wouldn't be playing 5 at the back this season, at least not much. He was good in wing back but often defensively exposed at right back and not really suited to a 4-man defensive system.
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I thought Emmanuel had plenty of class and with a proper pre-season under him would look even better, but I do think he was best as right winger or wing back with a solid RB/RCB behind him.  Another one who looked more comfortable against better opposition.  He's gone though, as I assume was always the plan anyway.
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Think people are being harsh on Emmanuel. After so long out of the game he would have been running on adrenaline for the first few games (he was thrown in straight away), but then the body would almost certainly have kicked back and told him to chill out a bit.

Agree with others though and the Northampton game showed that first half as a right back he was not great but as soon as efete came on at half time he was a different player at wing back.

I would have him back as long as he didn’t break the bank.

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I think he was rumoured to be on pretty substantial wages when he signed for us?

I'm not sure he's worth the money, given what we saw from him last season and I think Hurst probably feels the same way.

Regardless, we've got a couple of right-backs now so I think he'll sign for somebody, somewhere, but not us. I'm happy enough with that.
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Tyler Walker, identified by a few earlier in the summer as a desirable target, has rejoined Lincoln on a permanent deal.
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If we can sign Emmanuel we should. He’d make the squad significantly stronger and can play in a few positions comfortably at L2 level


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Harvey Cartwright now with the club it seems. Be interesting to see whether Hull let him play on Saturday.



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He certainly comes across as confident. Will be good for him to know SC too and vice versa.


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He certainly comes across as confident. Will be good for him to know SC too and vice versa.


Yeah, I have to say I thought he came across very well and incredibly natural given the slightly awkward nature and delivery of the questions. Seems a good lad, and I hadn’t appreciated how well known he was to Steve Croudson - that gives me every confidence that he’s going to more than capable.


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His dad is Ebo Cartwright him from local football swigs fame....he was a good local player and total nutter!!
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His dad is Ebo Cartwright him from local football swigs fame....he was a good local player and total nutter!!


His dad is Noddy...
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I do wonder if we need a bit of pace at the back. The lad from Newcastle would add that
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His dad is Noddy...


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I do wonder if we need a bit of pace at the back. The lad from Newcastle would add that


I've not really gauged how quick Mullarkey and Rodgers are from the pre-season games, we know Maher's neither quick or slow.  Mullarkey didn't look too sluggish when he played at right-back against 'Boro but it's so difficult to see in those early games against part-time sides.  

I have to be honest and say I don't see Waterfall featuring that much this season.   Our full-backs will be encouraged to press high this season, I'm absolutely convinced of that.  That definitely increases the need for a bit of pace at the back to allow that shifting across to cover spaces.  I suppose the only thing with the Newcastle lad is that it we're already quite well stocked in all defensive positions now.  
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I've not really gauged how quick Mullarkey and Rodgers are from the pre-season games, we know Maher's neither quick or slow.  Mullarkey didn't look too sluggish when he played at right-back against 'Boro but it's so difficult to see in those early games against part-time sides.  

I have to be honest and say I don't see Waterfall featuring that much this season.   Our full-backs will be encouraged to press high this season, I'm absolutely convinced of that.  That definitely increases the need for a bit of pace at the back to allow that shifting across to cover spaces.  I suppose the only thing with the Newcastle lad is that it we're already quite well stocked in all defensive positions now.  


For Murphy to come in I think it could be if a left back leaves. Still think we'll sign another midfielder. Say if Conteh gets injured.. we could be a little light in options. And I could easily see us bringing in a fourth striker. We look like we've got a full squad until there's the inevitable injuries. Hurst won't be too pressed, but if he finds the right player, he'll add them..even if it means telling the odd player to look elsewhere for game time..
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Yeah I think it has to be a left-back going out for Murphy to come in. Based only on the fact that Hurst gave Amos enough game time to trigger a contract extension, I can't imagine it's him who would be going.  Fits in with the rumoured interest in Glennon too.

Definitely a Hurst trait to always hold something back in his budget and try to tweak in the January window, so it wouldn't be a shock if this is the lot for the next four months.
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Wrexham finally make a signing; 57 year-old Will Boyle. Sorry, 27 year-old…

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Wrexham finally make a signing; 57 year-old Will Boyle. Sorry, 27 year-old…

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Is that his year of birth next to his left shoulder?

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Seen we’ve been (very) loosely linked with Jake Young at Bradford again. Nothing substantial, just a small handful of mentions on twitter. Think we were rumoured to be in for him last year but nothing happened & he ended up at Barrow. Conflicting reports on the Bradford end as to whether he’s flown back from their pre-season tour, or wasn’t taken in the first place, but Hughes apparently doesn’t want him and has told him to find another club.

Right-footed forward, comfortable across the front 3 or in the no.10 role. Bit of a Mcatee about him. Kind of player Hurst likes but not sure if we’re already well stocked in that dept?
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Is it the answer to a quiz question?

What happens if you leave a ginger defender in the sun too long??


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Seen we’ve been (very) loosely linked with Jake Young at Bradford again. Nothing substantial, just a small handful of mentions on twitter. Think we were rumoured to be in for him last year but nothing happened & he ended up at Barrow. Conflicting reports on the Bradford end as to whether he’s flown back from their pre-season tour, or wasn’t taken in the first place, but Hughes apparently doesn’t want him and has told him to find another club.

Right-footed forward, comfortable across the front 3 or in the no.10 role. Bit of a Mcatee about him. Kind of player Hurst likes but not sure if we’re already well stocked in that dept?


Would have been welcome in Jan, but our need is not so great now.

Not ruling it out mind. You never know with PH.
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Quoted from ska face
Seen we’ve been (very) loosely linked with Jake Young at Bradford again. Nothing substantial, just a small handful of mentions on twitter. Think we were rumoured to be in for him last year but nothing happened & he ended up at Barrow. Conflicting reports on the Bradford end as to whether he’s flown back from their pre-season tour, or wasn’t taken in the first place, but Hughes apparently doesn’t want him and has told him to find another club.

Right-footed forward, comfortable across the front 3 or in the no.10 role. Bit of a Mcatee about him. Kind of player Hurst likes but not sure if we’re already well stocked in that dept?


Looks like a classic Hurst signing. Only 21 too!


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Quoted from ska face
Seen we’ve been (very) loosely linked with Jake Young at Bradford again. Nothing substantial, just a small handful of mentions on twitter. Think we were rumoured to be in for him last year but nothing happened & he ended up at Barrow. Conflicting reports on the Bradford end as to whether he’s flown back from their pre-season tour, or wasn’t taken in the first place, but Hughes apparently doesn’t want him and has told him to find another club.

Right-footed forward, comfortable across the front 3 or in the no.10 role. Bit of a Mcatee about him. Kind of player Hurst likes but not sure if we’re already well stocked in that dept?


Looks like a classic Hurst signing. Only 21 too!


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Young was apparently absolutely woeful at Barrow. Not saying he would be for us or that that would deter Hurst, just adding what I've heard to the discussion.
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Wrexham finally make a signing; 57 year-old Will Boyle. Sorry, 27 year-old…

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More transfer Saga than transfer saga with this one
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Jake Youngs stats look awful
Never heard of him and would be amazed if he joins us
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Jake Youngs stats look awful
Never heard of him and would be amazed if he joins us


To be fair, in his first season at FGR (when he was 19), he scored 8 and only started 11 games and his record at Bradford is 1 in 4 (4 in 12 and he only started 7 of them).

At Barrow he only started 5 of his 17 appearances and Pete Wylde teams are not notorious for being attack minded.
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When we was linked with him in January I actually spoke to a couple of my mates, one is an FGR fan and the other is a Bradford fan, they both rated him and both said he had something about him and given regular football they both thought he would do very well, regular starts is something it would appear he hasn't had for some reason
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Young was apparently absolutely woeful at Barrow. Not saying he would be for us or that that would deter Hurst, just adding what I've heard to the discussion.


Apparently Anthony Glennon had a woeful loan spell at Barrow too but he's been a great signing for us

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Jake Youngs stats look awful
Never heard of him and would be amazed if he joins us


John McAtee.....


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To be fair, in his first season at FGR (when he was 19), he scored 8 and only started 11 games and his record at Bradford is 1 in 4 (4 in 12 and he only started 7 of them).

At Barrow he only started 5 of his 17 appearances and Pete Wylde teams are not notorious for being attack minded.


Wish people would just look a little deeper in to stats rather than going on wikipedia or whatever


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Wish people would just look a little deeper in to stats rather than going on wikipedia or whatever


Fortunately, the people who matter do.


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Speaking of McAtee. What is the chance of him returning this season on loan. Would we want him?
Obvs Luton got promoted to the prem so even less likely to feature for them at this stage.
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Would imagine he'll be looking to get a loan elsewhere...probably better all round that he tries himself out in a new environment.


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They probably want to see if they can get him something in L1 to test him at a higher level. Think we need to move on from him as not our player and he probably needs to be in a new team to improve himself playing different ways and experience with different coaches. That's not to say he will never come back or I wouldn't want it but probably better for his career at this stage to be somewhere else as even though he transferred to Luton he hasn't really done anything different since then as he spent another season with us and mostly dealing with his injury issue. I hope he can start fresh this season and kick on wherever he ends up.
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Speaking of McAtee. What is the chance of him returning this season on loan. Would we want him?
Obvs Luton got promoted to the prem so even less likely to feature for them at this stage.


I was wondering the other day if there was anything in his selling fee that included a bonus if Luton got in the prem?


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Wonder if he knows where he’ll be playing this coming season. Feel for him really.


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I was wondering the other day if there was anything in his selling fee that included a bonus if Luton got in the prem?


If I remember correctly, I believe Jason said there was something in the deal that included Luton in the premier league.. not sure if i've imagined that.
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Speaking of McAtee. What is the chance of him returning this season on loan. Would we want him?
Obvs Luton got promoted to the prem so even less likely to feature for them at this stage.


I don't think there is any chance at all, nor do I expect there is any interest from our side, McAtee was absolutely sublime when we were in the National League, but I think he struggled to recreate his form and kick on. I took from Hurst's statement upon his departure that it sounded pretty final as if both the club and McAtee had benefited strongly and now was the right time to go. I wouldn't be surprised that even if the option would arise and we were in need, we would probably want to look at other options first.

I would expect he will be somewhere else on loan this season but I'd be shocked if it was us. A move to League Two wouldn't be a complete surprise though.

There will always be a romance about bringing players back to the club who had good previous spells. I'm honestly shocked that a new Omar Bogle rumour hasn't started up this summer yet given he had a good season last year at a team who and club less fancied than ours, but I would imagine if we are to see any ex Mariner back here any time soon it would be likely George Lloyd, and that's probably more wishful thinking as opposed to reality.


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They probably want to see if they can get him something in L1 to test him at a higher level. Think we need to move on from him as not our player and he probably needs to be in a new team to improve himself playing different ways and experience with different coaches. That's not to say he will never come back or I wouldn't want it but probably better for his career at this stage to be somewhere else as even though he transferred to Luton he hasn't really done anything different since then as he spent another season with us and mostly dealing with his injury issue. I hope he can start fresh this season and kick on wherever he ends up.


Not sure if you can read anything into this, but interesting to see that he's not even been allocated a squad number there, even though Aribim Pepple has!

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I reckon they'll try to loan him out to a club nearby. Perhaps Stevenage, if they'll have him? MK Dons, Wycombe?

Make or break for him this season, I think, as he was disappointing last year, even though the early injury obviously didn't help. He needs to be playing games regularly and receiving the ball facing the opposition goal as that's where he's most threatening. A bit more focus required off the pitch from what I've heard!
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They probably want to see if they can get him something in L1 to test him at a higher level. Think we need to move on from him as not our player and he probably needs to be in a new team to improve himself playing different ways and experience with different coaches. That's not to say he will never come back or I wouldn't want it but probably better for his career at this stage to be somewhere else as even though he transferred to Luton he hasn't really done anything different since then as he spent another season with us and mostly dealing with his injury issue. I hope he can start fresh this season and kick on wherever he ends up.


He has been chosen by 5.2% of the people on Fantasy Football so far. He's the most picked Luton forward. Surely they can't be all Town fans picking him?
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He has been chosen by 5.2% of the people on Fantasy Football so far. He's the most picked Luton forward. Surely they can't be all Town fans picking him?


I assume he's one of the cheapest options available so probably used as a squad filling bench option
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He has been chosen by 5.2% of the people on Fantasy Football so far. He's the most picked Luton forward. Surely they can't be all Town fans picking him?


he's the cheapest forward- or one of the cheapest, he's your standard go-to when you've run out of money
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Not sure if you can read anything into this, but interesting to see that he's not even been allocated a squad number there, even though Aribim Pepple has!

https://www.lutontown.co.uk/teams/first-team/


That says 22-23 season. That was last season 🤣


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Must be really disheartening to not be allocated a squad number. Will be really challenging for him to adjust from being treated like an idol to being treated like a nobody. He’s only young and I don’t envy him that in terms of his well-being and sense of feeling valued. Certainly don’t want to play against him in L2, so hope he gets a L1 or Champ club and has a great season to rejuvenate himself.


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Must be really disheartening to not be allocated a squad number. Will be really challenging for him to adjust from being treated like an idol to being treated like a nobody. He’s only young and I don’t envy him that in terms of his well-being and sense of feeling valued. Certainly don’t want to play against him in L2, so hope he gets a L1 or Champ club and has a great season to rejuvenate himself.


He wasn’t allocated a squad number because he was on loan to us for the season.


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Not sure if you can read anything into this, but interesting to see that he's not even been allocated a squad number there, even though Aribim Pepple has!

https://www.lutontown.co.uk/teams/first-team/


That's last season's numbers, they've added a couple of their new players in as well but if you look they've not got a number either.

Pepple was allocated 27 on the day we beat them in a replay, Edwards named him on the bench and it was his only first team involvement to date.


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Aye, Pepple will only have one because he was on the bench at BP.

Edit: beaten to it!


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He has been chosen by 5.2% of the people on Fantasy Football so far. He's the most picked Luton forward. Surely they can't be all Town fans picking him?


Standard FF tactic to fill out the squad and not play, think arr Pauls young loan signings last season .
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Goal and an assist for McAtee in a pre season friendly for Luton today


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Goal and an assist for McAtee in a pre season friendly for Luton today


Would be great to see him get a few games in the Prem. Feel like he'll have to go out on loan but really want the lad to do well.


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Would be a dream fairytale if Luton have abit of an injury crisis, rely on Johnny Mac in the Prem to get some minutes as they are depleted for options and he goes on a 4-5 game maniac run scoring against each team he faces.. Gets into the first team and finishes as one of the surprises of the Premier League season before being snapped up by the likes of Aston Villa for 20m.. We can all dream can't we?
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The pundits will be desperate for him to be picked when they play Man City in the hope his brother will play as well...
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After all that time and effort getting back to the top flight, Luton's home Premier League bow has been postponed.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66207080
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Standard FF tactic to fill out the squad and not play, think arr Pauls young loan signings last season .


Balogan for Arsenal is the same price and will get more game time. ( maybe for Chelsea) I personally like 3 good strikers and scrimp in defence.
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The pundits will be desperate for him to be picked when they play Man City in the hope his brother will play as well...


According to BBC Sport gossip, City have rejected offers of £20 million for McAtee junior. He may be needed after Gundogan leaving and Mahrez and Silva rumoured to be heading to Saudi.
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After all that time and effort getting back to the top flight, Luton's home Premier League bow has been postponed.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66207080


Sensible decision to make now that, as it gives them some much needed slack in the project.
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Would be a dream fairytale if Luton have abit of an injury crisis, rely on Johnny Mac in the Prem to get some minutes as they are depleted for options and he goes on a 4-5 game maniac run scoring against each team he faces.. Gets into the first team and finishes as one of the surprises of the Premier League season before being snapped up by the likes of Aston Villa for 20m.. We can all dream can't we?





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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0g0xvl0

Nice little interview with Hurst here ,covers a few points.
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After all that time and effort getting back to the top flight, Luton's home Premier League bow has been postponed.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66207080


The telling thing in the article is part of the upgrade is required to keep SKY etc, happy,  nothing to do with safety or ensuring pitch has undersoil heating etc,
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George Lloyd only featuring in what very much appears to be Cheltenham's second string in pre-season games. Last 30 and 15 minutes in last two games.

Wouldn't shock me if he ends up back here as soon as Cheltenham bring in another striker.

They've brought in Rob Street from Palace who I'm guessing is a replacement for Alfie May but guess they'll need another before letting Lloyd go.
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George Lloyd only featuring in what very much appears to be Cheltenham's second string in pre-season games. Last 30 and 15 minutes in last two games.

Wouldn't shock me if he ends up back here as soon as Cheltenham bring in another striker.

They've brought in Rob Street from Palace who I'm guessing is a replacement for Alfie May but guess they'll need another before letting Lloyd go.


Danny Rose looks a massive upgrade on Lloyd. If we do sign another striker, it should be someone who offers something different.
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Personally not in disagreement with that assessment.

But it wouldn't surprise me.
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Danny Rose looks a massive upgrade on Lloyd. If we do sign another striker, it should be someone who offers something different.


Similiar players , but with potential and age on his side , Lloyd provides greater resale value .
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Lloyd can play alongside Rose. Lloyd good in the air too but very much a run in behind striker too.


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I think it would be a bit of a luxury for us to have both rose and Lloyd, I suspect we would have to prioritise our spending differently.
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I think we do need another option up front, and another full back/centre back depending on where Mullarkey mainly plays
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Yeah I'd like to see us sign, or take on loan, a bigger centre forward player
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Well we’re coming up to 2 weeks without a signing. With the squad flying out to Spain tomorrow until next Saturday, it’s likely gonna be another week on top of that before we see anyone else incoming.

Probably the most settled squad we’ll have had before KO in a long time, does nothing for us toiling at the rumour mill though.
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I think we could see a couple of loans come in to the squad toward the end of the window.
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Yeah I'd like to see us sign, or take on loan, a bigger centre forward player


I agree. Gives us an alternative if things aren’t going to plan.


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I hope they've got some decent air-conditioning at the training camp in Spain. I wouldn't imagine the players will be able to do a great deal of fitness work given how hot it is going to be there during their stay.
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Depends where they are in Spain, not sure if they said already and I missed it.
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I think we could see a couple of loans come in to the squad toward the end of the window.


Already looking forward to them being wished all the best in January


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Depends where they are in Spain, not sure if they said already and I missed it.


I don't think they've said where they are going, but these tours tend to be on the one of the Costa regions in the south where the big hotel complexes are situated, believe. Mahoosive heatwave there at present - could be the hottest temperatures ever recorded in some parts of the Med. If we're heading to the north coast of the country, we might get away with it.

How bizarre that my previous post got a load of crosses for stating a point of fact. Some weird folk about.
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They're playing in Alicante, where the temperature is in the mid thirties.
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I hope they've got some decent air-conditioning at the training camp in Spain. I wouldn't imagine the players will be able to do a great deal of fitness work given how hot it is going to be there during their stay.


I don’t think it’s a case of just training that they’ll be doing. It’s a great chance for the players and management team to also spend some time together as a squad and gel together. It will also help psychologically instead of the mundane usual cheapside training in the rain they’ll be (hopefully) training in the sun. Plus it also benefits greatly as it will help increase vitamin D levels giving extra support to muscles and bones and should help VLC (vital lung capacity) levels to aid recover time


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They're playing in Alicante, where the temperature is in the mid thirties.


Met Office reckons 38 degrees on Wednesday. Ouch! Rather them than me. A few degrees cooler after that.

Do you think they'll have inflatable unicorns in the pool?
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Met Office reckons 38 degrees on Wednesday. Ouch! Rather them than me. A few degrees cooler after that.

Do you think they'll have inflatable unicorns in the pool?


Surely, they’ll have Harry Haddocks.
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They're playing in Alicante, where the temperature is in the mid thirties.


It's a place I have looked at property at many times.

A Place in the Sun is a great programme. ;

And they also show some lovely views, especially Danni Menzies.  





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Since it’s all very slow on here at the minute, I note that John McAtee played and scored an excellent goal in Luton’s recent friendly at St George’s Park against Peterborough (McAtee’s goal at 1:12). He also bagged an assist.

It will be interesting to see what happens with him this window. It seems a long shot that he’ll make Luton’s 25-man squad, but you never know if he continues to impress amongst first-teamers. He doesn’t look out of place on the basis of this short highlights reel. Pepple didn’t feature.



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Also, Scott Quigley has signed for Eastleigh, who along with York also appear to be splashing the cash after the return of former owner Stuart Donald.

Anything that increases the chances of yet another dismal Chesterfield failure is alright in my book, the ‘orrible bástards.


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Anything that increases the chances of yet another dismal Chesterfield failure is alright by my book, the ‘orrible bástards.


I feel we need our very own Grimmo synonym for schadenfreude. Sheltonfreude? Sheltonfraud!

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Also, Scott Quigley has signed for Eastleigh, who along with York also appear to be splashing the cash after the return of former owner Stuart Donald.

Anything that increases the chances of yet another dismal Chesterfield failure is alright in my book, the ‘orrible bástards.


Thank goodness for our play off miracle. Despite Wrexham and Notts escaping last season it's still going to be an incredibly tough league to get out of again this season.

L2 is no cakewalk but at least there are four promotion slots up for grabs.
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Since it’s all very slow on here at the minute, I note that John McAtee played and scored an excellent goal in Luton’s recent friendly at St George’s Park against Peterborough (McAtee’s goal at 1:12). He also bagged an assist.

It will be interesting to see what happens with him this window. It seems a long shot that he’ll make Luton’s 25-man squad, but you never know if he continues to impress amongst first-teamers. He doesn’t look out of place on the basis of this short highlights reel. Pepple didn’t feature.



John’s goal was great too!
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Thank goodness for our play off miracle. Despite Wrexham and Notts escaping last season it's still going to be an incredibly tough league to get out of again this season.



Well Scunny did not have any problem getting out last season Ron.  


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Couldn't get my head around Luton playing in blue and Peterborough in that pinky white effort....

Very nice goal from McAtee.  I'll genuinely be amazed if he gets a chance at Luton, even at his swaggering best in the Conference he looked a long, long way off even the bottom of the Premier League.  I still suspect a loan deal is the best chance he's got of football this season and just going on location somewhere like Stevenage.

McAtee is clearly a player who needs to be managed and dare I say loved as well.  In a weird way, a manager like Steve Evans could be one who gets the best out of him, in the completely opposite way to which Hurst did.  Evans is a horrible, horrible man.  Listen to any interview with players who've played under him and they all hate him, hate their experiences of him but unanimously they'll all say he's a master at getting the best out of players.  

He disappointed last season but perhaps we underestimated the toil that the constant shoulder injury took out of him and then also the fact that he never quite had a role to make his own last season.  It was only when Lloyd came in January did he look settled in a pairing, in his preferred role too.   But I would be glad to see him in League One as opposed to Two as I think he's still got it in him to cause absolute havoc at this level if he's fully fit and his head is in the game.

Selfishly from a GTFC perspective, if he goes out to League One level and impresses it adds value to him and any potential sell-on fee.
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Couldn't get my head around Luton playing in blue and Peterborough in that pinky white effort....

Very nice goal from McAtee.  I'll genuinely be amazed if he gets a chance at Luton, even at his swaggering best in the Conference he looked a long, long way off even the bottom of the Premier League.  I still suspect a loan deal is the best chance he's got of football this season and just going on location somewhere like Stevenage.

McAtee is clearly a player who needs to be managed and dare I say loved as well.  In a weird way, a manager like Steve Evans could be one who gets the best out of him, in the completely opposite way to which Hurst did.  Evans is a horrible, horrible man.  Listen to any interview with players who've played under him and they all hate him, hate their experiences of him but unanimously they'll all say he's a master at getting the best out of players.  

He disappointed last season but perhaps we underestimated the toil that the constant shoulder injury took out of him and then also the fact that he never quite had a role to make his own last season.  It was only when Lloyd came in January did he look settled in a pairing, in his preferred role too.   But I would be glad to see him in League One as opposed to Two as I think he's still got it in him to cause absolute havoc at this level if he's fully fit and his head is in the game.

Selfishly from a GTFC perspective, if he goes out to League One level and impresses it adds value to him and any potential sell-on fee.


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Wouldn’t surprise me to see JM playing for Peterborough, Stevenage or Cambridge on a season long loan


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Meanwhile in League Two…

…Crawley have gone a bit “Grimsby summer 2020”, signing two players from Conference South side Brackley

…Swindon sign Dan Kemp, who scored a hat-trick against us for Hartlepool last season, on loan from MK Dons

…and Salford sign centre-half Curtis Tilt, who played 30-odd times for Wigan in the Championship last season

Good signing from Salford, that. One of the more impressive ones so far.


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Meanwhile in League Two…

…Crawley have gone a bit “Grimsby summer 2020”, signing two players from Conference South side Brackley

…Swindon sign Dan Kemp, who scored a hat-trick against us for Hartlepool last season, on loan from MK Dons

…and Salford sign centre-half Curtis Tilt, who played 30-odd times for Wigan in the Championship last season

Good signing from Salford, that. One of the more impressive ones so far.


Kemp seemed to score most of Hartlepools goals last season after joining on loan. Looked a good player.


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Ex target Harry Boyes has joined Wycombe on loan
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Meanwhile in League Two…

…Crawley have gone a bit “Grimsby summer 2020”, signing two players from Conference South side Brackley

…Swindon sign Dan Kemp, who scored a hat-trick against us for Hartlepool last season, on loan from MK Dons

…and Salford sign centre-half Curtis Tilt, who played 30-odd times for Wigan in the Championship last season

Good signing from Salford, that. One of the more impressive ones so far.

Tilt to go with Luke Garbutt too at Salford, that's two absolutely cracking defenders they've signed for this level.

I'm really surprised MK Dons have allowed Kemp out on loan to another L2 side. Can't help but feel they've dropped a clanger there. I'm predicting that turns into an Eoin Doyle/Danny Johnson scenario in the Jan window.
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Now we've missed out on Dan Kemp, would like to see us go for Scott Banks, Palace lad who was on loan at Bradford last year. Thought he was an absolute nuisance and a very tricky winger. Also can't help but think we are still a striker short to really challenge for promotion this season
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Now we've missed out on Dan Kemp, would like to see us go for Scott Banks, Palace lad who was on loan at Bradford last year. Thought he was an absolute nuisance and a very tricky winger. Also can't help but think we are still a striker short to really challenge for promotion this season

Pretty sure Banks will be playing higher than L2 this season. Would be a quality signing for a L2 club though, agree with that.
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Now we've missed out on Dan Kemp, would like to see us go for Scott Banks, Palace lad who was on loan at Bradford last year. Thought he was an absolute nuisance and a very tricky winger. Also can't help but think we are still a striker short to really challenge for promotion this season


I can't see us signing another player for wide surely, already got khan, clifton, vernam, wilson, and eisa.
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I can't see us signing another player for wide surely, already got khan, clifton, vernam, wilson, and eisa.


To the best of my knowledge, we are permitted a “senior” squad of 22 players, excluding goalkeepers and under 21s. From a quick count, we currently have 17 so there’s a little room for addition yet, should we want to do so.

Given there’s still the two goalkeepers, Conteh and Khouri on top of that (plus another 2 or 3 youngsters on the periphery), I’d be surprised if we filled all 5 slots, but another 3 feels like a sensible number - a defender, a midfielder and a more central striker.

Does that seem about right?


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To the best of my knowledge, we are permitted a “senior” squad of 22 players, excluding goalkeepers and under 21s. From a quick count, we currently have 17 so there’s a little room for addition yet, should we want to do so.

Given there’s still the two goalkeepers, Conteh and Khouri on top of that (plus another 2 or 3 youngsters on the periphery), I’d be surprised if we filled all 5 slots, but another 3 feels like a sensible number - a defender, a midfielder and a more central striker.

Does that seem about right?



I could of course be wrong - but I think PH  seems to be quite happy with the squad he has assembled with quality cover all round.
I would be surprised to see further transfer activity as he is not a fan of large squads or loans.



He is not a fan of large squads or loans.
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I’d argue that we’re still a winger short. Vernam, Eisa and Kahn have all played historically on the left, Clifton is a utility option who does a good job on the right and Wilson is naturally a striker. There’s no natural right winger, so wouldn’t surprise me to see a left footed, right winger come in to give some balance.


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I think unless a player Hurst really wants becomes available or we get a stack of injuries he is happy with the squad .

I did hear on  a Colchester podcast , that we are interested in Tom Hopper from them , not sure if any truth in that though .
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He is not a fan of large squads or loans.


You can say that twice.
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I think unless a player Hurst really wants becomes available or we get a stack of injuries he is happy with the squad .

I did hear on  a Colchester podcast , that we are interested in Tom Hopper from them , not sure if any truth in that though .


Another one that got away in the Jan - I thought he went down there because of family instead of coming to us.
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I think unless a player Hurst really wants becomes available or we get a stack of injuries he is happy with the squad .

I did hear on  a Colchester podcast , that we are interested in Tom Hopper from them , not sure if any truth in that though .


I seem to recall we were interested in him in the January window, but he chose to go to Colchester for family reasons. So I can't see him coming back up here.



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Not sure I have seen this mentioned but we have rejected an offer for Clifton
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Not sure I have seen this mentioned but we have rejected an offer for Clifton


Ooohh who from?
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I’m still pretty sure we need a plan B up front. Think about how many games during our last promotion run in Mani and Abrahams came on when the first option didn’t work. I’m more than happy with that 1st option now but how do we change things if we have to?


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I agree, we could still do with another striker, but i'm not sure Hopper is the answer.
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I think we are still light up front. Pyke going lame just reinforces that. A knock to Rose would give us a problem.
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This is merely an observation, rather than a suggestion he may be BP bound, but Josh Umerah has played no part whatsoever in Hartlepool’s pre-season games and hasn’t travelled to their training camp in Scotland. He’s clearly off and you’d imagine his most likely destination is League Two; will be interesting to see where he ends up.


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This Josh Umerah 'love in' from certain quarters s really strange and quite amusing
Based on one performance for a team who ultimately got relegated

We can do so much better....
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It's not just from 'one game though', its scoring 12 in a relegated team and having all the physical attributes for the job and he's of this level so wages would presumably be affordable.  Town finished 11th with nobody breaking into double digits, I would think with better service around him more than 12 goals would be easily acheivable
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I agree, we could still do with another striker, but i'm not sure Hopper is the answer.


That's ok then because he is not coming Jarmo.

He moved down this way because his wife has family down here so she will not want to move .

The commute is horrendous trying too get to cheapside.  from here so we can forget about him.


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This Josh Umerah 'love in' from certain quarters s really strange and quite amusing
Based on one performance for a team who ultimately got relegated

We can do so much better....


He's scored more goals than any Town player, in significantly poorer teams in our own division, two seasons running. 15 for Hartlepool last season and 16 for Wealdstone the season before.

It is of course a very basic leap of logic to suggest that he's automatically an improvement on what we've had, and I think Paul Hurst is a lot cuter in his analysis and planning to rely solely on goals scored, but given that he's consistently been scoring goals at our own level, is in the physical mould that many (myself included) feel we've lacked up top and was relegated last season and is most likely looking for a move, I don't find it surprising that his name crops up.

I don't see any "love in", nor did I think he was particularly brilliant in either of our games against the monkey hangers last season (despite his goal at BP). But I think the stats suggest he could do a job in a decent League Two side, and suspect he will next season. I think it's pretty unlikely that will be here, but I'd argue he's one to keep an eye on regardless.


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You'd imagine Umerah will be wanting to go to a team either at a higher level, or one where he's pretty much guaranteed to be a starter. I'm not sure he'd be guaranteed a start for us given that we've already signed Rose who is certainly going to be first choice if fit. I suppose a lot depends on what formation we settle with, but I'm not sure we're looking to be playing with two centre-forwards.

Admittedly, I've not seen any of the pre-season matches, just going on what one or two others have said as players have come in.
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Wonder what's happening with Mickey Demetriou? thought he was on his way when he announced he was leaving Newport?
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Wonder what's happening with Mickey Demetriou? thought he was on his way when he announced he was leaving Newport?


that was someone putting 2 and 2 together ad making 28, He's signed for crewe
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A York STH said today that there is a strong rumour that they will get Andrew Dallas this week.  He is out of contract and a signing on fee would be offered and very attractive to the player.  (Sheff Wed said to have some interest in him but this seems unlikely).
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A York STH said today that there is a strong rumour that they will get Andrew Dallas this week.  He is out of contract and a signing on fee would be offered and very attractive to the player.  (Sheff Wed said to have some interest in him but this seems unlikely).



How come all these clubs talk about our transfer business, don't they have any of their own?
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A York STH said today that there is a strong rumour that they will get Andrew Dallas this week.  He is out of contract and a signing on fee would be offered and very attractive to the player.  (Sheff Wed said to have some interest in him but this seems unlikely).


York were very impressive against Donny last night. Played the last 20 minutes with 10 men and brought Trialist B on for a runout after 3 minutes of stoppage time.
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This is merely an observation, rather than a suggestion he may be BP bound, but Josh Umerah has played no part whatsoever in Hartlepool’s pre-season games and hasn’t travelled to their training camp in Scotland. He’s clearly off and you’d imagine his most likely destination is League Two; will be interesting to see where he ends up.


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To the best of my knowledge, we are permitted a “senior” squad of 22 players, excluding goalkeepers and under 21s. From a quick count, we currently have 17 so there’s a little room for addition yet, should we want to do so.

Given there’s still the two goalkeepers, Conteh and Khouri on top of that (plus another 2 or 3 youngsters on the periphery), I’d be surprised if we filled all 5 slots, but another 3 feels like a sensible number - a defender, a midfielder and a more central striker.

Does that seem about right?


I think 3 sounds too many, assuming no more injuries or players being sold or loaned out - if that's the case I think 1 more (hopefully a big striker).

However, slight contradiction in that I expect we will loan out some of the youngsters. If that is the case I expect we will then get a couple of young loan players in to replace them who we believe are further on in their development than say Essel or Braithwaite and who will pad out the squad. Hurst seems to like having at least a couple of those type of players in.
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The now well established way for well regarded  league 1 and 2 clubs to get the best quality strikers on board is via loans from higher up the pyramid eg Lincoln  Brennan Johnson etc.  I am hoping that we are now so regarded and we have incoming there still to come .
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Umerah was on Hurst's radar last summer but we opted against him, was felt he wasn't ready for the step-up just yet.

Hindsight is fantastic as I'm sure he would have proved to be a good addition last season. As a one-off decision, I think Hurst got that one wrong.

However, I fancy that our ambitions are higher now and with that the calibre of player we strive for has gone up too. There will be players in our current squad who won't make that step up with us, never mind those targets from 12 months ago.
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Speaking to a chesterfield supporter on holiday a couple of weeks ago, they offered him (Dallas) a deal and then an improved deal once that initial offer was rebuffed


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Be interesting to see where Dallas ends up but I think it's fair to say he's burnt his bridges with Hurst. Also don't really think he's the type of player we're looking for if we do want another striker.


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Be interesting to see where Dallas ends up but I think it's fair to say he's burnt his bridges with Hurst. Also don't really think he's the type of player we're looking for if we do want another striker.


Yes, we should thank him for setting up the winner in the play off final and move on.
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Be interesting to see where Dallas ends up but I think it's fair to say he's burnt his bridges with Hurst. Also don't really think he's the type of player we're looking for if we do want another striker.


Been echoes of him rocking up at York, by all accounts look like they are trying to give it a good go. The centre back they signed was one of a few I thought that Hurst might of gone for due to his love of dipping into the non-league for a centre back. I thought we would have ended up with one of Jesse Debrah (Barnsley), Tyler Cordner (York) or Omar Sowumni (Sutton).
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Been echoes of him rocking up at York, by all accounts look like they are trying to give it a good go. The centre back they signed was one of a few I thought that Hurst might of gone for due to his love of dipping into the non-league for a centre back. I thought we would have ended up with one of Jesse Debrah (Barnsley), Tyler Cordner (York) or Omar Sowumni (Sutton).


Has Debrah officially rocked-up at Barnsley? I saw Halifax had announced that he has left the club, but hadn’t seen his destination confirmed.


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I see Barnsley have signed Ben Killip a few days back. Like I said last week, if I’m a Barnsley fan and suddenly we’re signing players from top-end Conference up to mid-table L2, I’d be worrying.
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I see Barnsley have signed Ben Killip a few days back. Like I said last week, if I’m a Barnsley fan and suddenly we’re signing players from top-end Conference up to mid-table L2, I’d be worrying.


Aye, their signings so far from Hartlepool, Woking and Pontefract Collieries don’t do much to inspire confidence that they’re going balls out for promotion next season.


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Potentially a much easier League One this season though, might be in their thinking that they can get up on the relative cheap.  

Ipswich, Plymouth and Sheff Weds going up weakens the league and I can't see Wigan, Reading or Blackpool dominating this time round.  Promoted teams from our league won't cause much trouble at the pointy end of the stick.  Bolton, Derby, maybe Peterborough (although I actually think they're in for a tough season).  Portsmouth and Charlton if they get their act together might be a threat.  

Think it's only Andersen as a significant loss this summer from a side that got to the play-off final.  
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Jon Nolan has signed for Macclesfield.


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Alex Murphy looks like he’s been really impressing during Newcastle’s pre season
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Tom Bloxham is a name I have seen mentioned recently by a Spanish Town Instagram account (I like to state my sources). Apparently we are one of a number of EFL clubs chasing him.

Morecambe are allegedly the front runners, for Bloxham who has played 81 times for Shrewsbury scoring 5.

Bloxham is 6ft 5 and a target man (based of having him in Football Manager)

What would people’s thoughts be on this?
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Potentially a much easier League One this season though, might be in their thinking that they can get up on the relative cheap.  

Ipswich, Plymouth and Sheff Weds going up weakens the league and I can't see Wigan, Reading or Blackpool dominating this time round.  Promoted teams from our league won't cause much trouble at the pointy end of the stick.  Bolton, Derby, maybe Peterborough (although I actually think they're in for a tough season).  Portsmouth and Charlton if they get their act together might be a threat.  

Think it's only Andersen as a significant loss this summer from a side that got to the play-off final.  


Barnsley have just postponed another friendly today. They have had their wrists slapped by the EFL too, so I think they need to be more concerned about the bottom of L1 than the top of it.
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Tom Bloxham is a name I have seen mentioned recently by a Spanish Town Instagram account (I like to state my sources). Apparently we are one of a number of EFL clubs chasing him.

Morecambe are allegedly the front runners, for Bloxham who has played 81 times for Shrewsbury scoring 5.

Bloxham is 6ft 5 and a target man (based of having him in Football Manager)

What would people’s thoughts be on this?


I am just awaiting somebody saying "he worked with Hurst at Shrewsbury" without actually checking if he did or didn't!

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I am just awaiting somebody saying "he worked with Hurst at Shrewsbury" without actually checking if he did or didn't!



How long do you reckon, Will me putting that he is 19 on this post stop people?
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Quoted from CodHead
Tom Bloxham is a name I have seen mentioned recently by a Spanish Town Instagram account (I like to state my sources). Apparently we are one of a number of EFL clubs chasing him.

Morecambe are allegedly the front runners, for Bloxham who has played 81 times for Shrewsbury scoring 5.

Bloxham is 6ft 5 and a target man (based of having him in Football Manager)

What would people’s thoughts be on this?


Would come under the category of one for the future given his age. He's made an impressive amount of appearances for a 19 yr old though.
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He has now signed for Morecambe so he won't be coming here
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I can see Crawley going with single figure points this season, Hesenthaler left today , after the whole squad had been dismantled  .

They are signing players from the same level as GY Boro and Clee Town .


Their race is run as a football league club the wagamimi bods(or whatever they are called) have destroyed them .
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I can see Crawley going with single figure points this season, Hesenthaler left today , after the whole squad had been dismantled  .

They are signing players from the same level as GY Boro and Clee Town .


Their race is run as a football league club the wagamimi bods(or whatever they are called) have destroyed them .


tbf, we said the same time last season
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I can see Crawley going with single figure points this season, Hesenthaler left today , after the whole squad had been dismantled  .

They are signing players from the same level as GY Boro and Clee Town .


Their race is run as a football league club the wagamimi bods(or whatever they are called) have destroyed them .


You have to feel for Orsi. Clifton, Khouri and Waterfall will have spent the last year telling him all about the banter year under Holloway, where mud belonged on mud, a Tunisian international blew out their ársé on Cleethorpes beach before turning up at Cheapside on their fast scooter, a striker held a gender reveal party during lockdown months after being a Tesco delivery driver to supplement his non-league income, we signed a Welsh league sensation who couldn't kick a ball when we loaned him to Cleethorpes and made his debut for us in an unnumbered shirt, and then we also signed the top scorer from 8th tier Folkestone Invicta who is now back at Folkestone Invicta.

Poor Orsi is now living the hell that Clifton, Khouri and Waterfall told him about.
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They'd signed the league 2 top scorer this time a year ago hadn't they


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If where looking at a target man striker does anybody think Kyle Hudlin might be worth a loan if he's available?.
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If where looking at a target man striker does anybody think Kyle Hudlin might be worth a loan if he's available?.


Is Kyle hudlin the new Andrew Dallas ??

(Dallas btw on the radar of sheff Wednesday, Barnsley, Wigan and Cheltenham)


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If where looking at a target man striker does anybody think Kyle Hudlin might be worth a loan if he's available?.


No, no and no!!! He’s awful and it would just encourage ‘Slade Ball’. I hope to never see him in a Town Shirt!
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If where looking at a target man striker does anybody think Kyle Hudlin might be worth a loan if he's available?.


Was poor the season before last apart from against us , was it 3 goals in NL all season that weren't against us?

Last season he got 0 in 13 L2 appearances, according to wiki anyway.

Would be a dreadful signing in my opinion.
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He's not even a target man , relatively poor in the air but slightly better with his feet a lower end much worse Peter Crouch IMO - might be good at basketball player .
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I don't think Hudlin would fit into the way Hurst would want to play, at 6"9 he's a threat (as we've seen) but I don't think he's got all that much to his game. 17 goals in 69 appearances for Solihull over the two seasons, prior to that he was playing in step 10 of Non-league.

Hastily signed up by Huddersfield last summer, loaned out almost immediately to Wimbledon where he only started 2 of 13 games without scoring in the League although he did bag 3 in the Papa Johns including 2 against Plymouth. They cancelled his loan in January and punted him back up north, I think he's destined to be a Non-league player at best.


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He's shite, Paul hurst would not sign him, i'm certain of that
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I can't remember who originally said this about a striker but it was withering and could be about Hudlin:

He's 6 foot 9 but jumps 5 foot 8.


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If where looking at a target man striker does anybody think Kyle Hudlin might be worth a loan if he's available?.


Nah. Far too easily taken out the game by defenders......called Smith
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I can't remember who originally said this about a striker but it was withering and could be about Hudlin:

He's 6 foot 9 but jumps 5 foot 8.


He didn't have a problem scoring against us.
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Hassenthaler gone to Dagenham & Redbridge
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Quoted from fiveallive
If where looking at a target man striker does anybody think Kyle Hudlin might be worth a loan if he's available?.


I'd take him if his wages were ok. I think he's a decent player, better than most of the loanee strikers we had last season anyway
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Nah. Far too easily taken out the game by defenders......called Smith


If he hadn’t gone of injured half way through the play off final we would probably still be in the NL . Some people have short memories
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But he did so that’s a non argument.


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If he hadn’t gone of injured half way through the play off final we would probably still be in the NL . Some people have short memories


Agreed and it was our LG2 defence that struggled to deal with him. Definitely not the best footballer in the world but he’s an awkward, lanky nightmare plan B.  
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He's a rubbish footballer who was deemed not good enough by one of the worst teams in League 2 6 months ago.


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If he hadn’t gone of injured half way through the play off final we would probably still be in the NL . Some people have short memories


I'm convinced that Hurst recognised that and his half time instructions were to take him out of the game as soon as possible.
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1 in this week I reckon.


I hope so.

This thread has died a death.
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It’s probably for the best, though it’s definitely been better than the January thread.
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To the best of my knowledge, we are permitted a “senior” squad of 22 players, excluding goalkeepers and under 21s. From a quick count, we currently have 17 so there’s a little room for addition yet, should we want to do so.

Given there’s still the two goalkeepers, Conteh and Khouri on top of that (plus another 2 or 3 youngsters on the periphery), I’d be surprised if we filled all 5 slots, but another 3 feels like a sensible number - a defender, a midfielder and a more central striker.

Does that seem about right?


Out of interest, does anyone know the rules on qualification as an under 21?  It might seem obvious on the face of it, but surely it can't be the case that a player becomes ineligible if he hits his 21st birthday half way through the season.
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If he hadn’t gone of injured half way through the play off final we would probably still be in the NL . Some people have short memories


I disagree, if he had stayed on injured I think we’d have still won.



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I hope so.

This thread has died a death.

Yep  time to go.
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Out of interest, does anyone know the rules on qualification as an under 21?  It might seem obvious on the face of it, but surely it can't be the case that a player becomes ineligible if he hits his 21st birthday half way through the season.


It's normally based on your age before the season. So if your u21 before the season kicks off you count as an u21 for the whole season
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Yep  time to go.


Not until 2nd Sept. Still 6 weeks of the window to go!
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Gillingham sign Millwall left-back Scott Malone. 34 appearance for Millwall last season, 41 the season before. 32-years old. Decent piece of business for the Gills.

Tweet 1683494786135736323 will appear here...


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Looks like we missed out on Mbappe though, he's off to Saudi for 260 million.

I cant imagine the standard is up to much out there surely? Will be like playing exhibition games ever week.

But on the other hand they will need a truck to deliver his wages every week.
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PH talking of a couple more signings through the door! Hopefully they’re close! I would expect it’s quality that has taken some time to finalise.

This team is looking very promising indeed; high press, bags of energy, lovely football too. Looking forward to the season for sure!!
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There’s certainly some big signings for league 2 that’s for sure.


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PH talking of a couple more signings through the door! Hopefully they’re close! I would expect it’s quality that has taken some time to finalise.

This team is looking very promising indeed; high press, bags of energy, lovely football too. Looking forward to the season for sure!!


Yeah, he seemed to go to lengths to almost correct himself in the post-match comments about signings.

Not going to grumble at more depth but other than perhaps another forward and/or winger, we look pretty full in every department.

That was the starting XI a week on Saturday if everyone is fit, Hurst might try and play it down but it was.  I think we all know that.  But that meant Cartwright, Efete, Amos, Waterfall, Green, Khouri, Holohan, Khan, Wilson and Pyke (inj) all didn't start.  There's maybe an argument for a further centre-back to allow more flexibility in system.  

The depth is as good as anything I can remember in a long, long time.
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We need a forward, yes but don’t we need another defender? If Mullarky is an option at right back that leaves with 3 CBs. Including Pearson, PH had 8 defenders in the house last season, is Bramwell considered good enough to be the 8th?
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We need a forward, yes but don’t we need another defender? If Mullarky is an option at right back that leaves with 3 CBs. Including Pearson, PH had 8 defenders in the house last season, is Bramwell considered good enough to be the 8th?


I've loved everything about him i've seen. Looks composed on the ball with a nice range of passing. Seems to of mastered that Waterfall diagonal , he's a big lad for his age and not scared to get amongst it. Think we'll see him out on loan however as it'd be pointless him staying around and only getting minutes in the B Team Trophy.
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I've loved everything about him i've seen. Looks composed on the ball with a nice range of passing. Seems to of mastered that Waterfall diagonal , he's a big lad for his age and not scared to get amongst it. Think we'll see him out on loan however as it'd be pointless him staying around and only getting minutes in the B Team Trophy.


If we loan him out, he can still play in the B Team Trophy.
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We need another striker and a wide player with pace. Resources still thin and questionable in these areas. Not a fan of Vernam and Eisa is more of a worker then a flyer then I expected.In an ideal world a second Conteh would also be good. The rest should be ok.
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I think we are one goalscorer away from top 7 ,  probably even top 3 and going right through .

Will be interesting to see if we push the boat out for the cherry on top .
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We need a forward, yes but don’t we need another defender? If Mullarky is an option at right back that leaves with 3 CBs. Including Pearson, PH had 8 defenders in the house last season, is Bramwell considered good enough to be the 8th?


I very much doubt Pearson will play except in a dire emergency.

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Genuine question.
People stating we need a proper goalscorer etc, who would you want us to realistically sign?
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[quote=123614]

I very much doubt Pearson will play except in a dire emergency.

Yes but he didn’t say that!! He said.”Including Pearson, PH had 8 defenders in the house last season.”

He was talking about last season. #UTM

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Genuine question.
People stating we need a proper goalscorer etc, who would you want us to realistically sign?


I don't think we'll be bringing an out-and-out goalscorer in, not with the way Hurst has set the side up so far.  It looks very much about spreading the goals around the team, which I've no issue with at all.  If it's 4-3-3 (or a variation of) then we've got Rose, Pyke and Wilson competing for one spot.  Hurst might feel that there's no need to add to that.  Unless we go with a 3-5-2 we'll need two wingers on the pitch at all times, at the minute we've got 3 plus Clifton/Khouri who can do a job but they're not wingers.

What happened to Adan George?  He looked decent against Grimsby Borough and then disappeared.
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Leicester close to signing Raikhy apparently, interesting.
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He looked to have a lot of potential, but I'd say he was still some way off a Championship player last I saw of him. I suppose he's a year older now, however. Are Leicester trying to keep things cheap or just building for the future?
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Sutton sign Omari Patrick, who scored the equalising goal in last season’s play-off final if I’m not mistaken. Good signing for them, that.


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All incoming/outgoing Rumours appear to have completely dried up……

Hurst hoping for a couple more, you would certainly expect them through the door by Monday or Tuesday next week at the latest.
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All incoming/outgoing Rumours appear to have completely dried up……

Hurst hoping for a couple more, you would certainly expect them through the door by Monday or Tuesday next week at the latest.


Possibly, but given the good business already done if they don’t arrive until the end of the window I don’t think it’s the end of the world (injuries permitting).


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I think he's probably waiting to see if an Emmanuel type or a high quality loan or 2 become available near the end of the window .

Or maybe the Newcastle lad , or is that dead now?
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I would imagine we may sign a loan forward short term to cover for the loss of Pyke, and that'll be it. Which i'm fine with.


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Possibly, but given the good business already done if they don’t arrive until the end of the window I don’t think it’s the end of the world (injuries permitting).


Yeah Hurst often talks about waiting for the right quality to become available. It's a lot easier to do that when we've made some really strong signings early doors.

Be great if we could get a bit of star quality either someone young on loan or someone who drops down a league for games.
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I wonder how much is left to spend on transfer fees. Andy Smith on a permanent would be a cracking acquisition.
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I wonder how much is left to spend on transfer fees. Andy Smith on a permanent would be a cracking acquisition.


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I wonder how much is left to spend on transfer fees. Andy Smith on a permanent would be a cracking acquisition.


Dont think CB is a position we really need to strengthen, and as much as i'd love Andy Smith back, we have absolutely no chance of it happening at the moment
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Dont think CB is a position we really need to strengthen, and as much as i'd love Andy Smith back, we have absolutely no chance of it happening at the moment


I think we do need to strengthen in defence. We currently have Waterfall, Maher, Rodgers and Bramwell as out and out CBs. Mullarkey is an RB/CB so I feel that we need another CB or RB in the building as an injury/suspension to Efete or Mullarkey leaves us quite exposed.
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I think we do need to strengthen in defence. We currently have Waterfall, Maher, Rodgers and Bramwell as out and out CBs. Mullarkey is an RB/CB so I feel that we need another CB or RB in the building as an injury/suspension to Efete or Mullarkey leaves us quite exposed.


2 rbs, 4 cbs, 2lbs....more than enough.


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Have Cheltenham signed enough replacements up front now to let us have George back on loan or as a signing ?

Be very happy to see his pace and aggression back up front !
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I wonder how much is left to spend on transfer fees. Andy Smith on a permanent would be a cracking acquisition.


Why do we need more defenders?

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If you're a defender and you hear Grimsby are interested, you'd look at the current squad and say 'when would I get a game?'.

I'd still like to see a forward lump and a forward/wing sprinter, purely to cover all options.  Aside from that I'm struggling to see how the current team all get enough games unless we compete in several cups this season/pick up injuries.

Never thought I'd be complaining that town have sorted a load of good transfers early in the window, but c'mon Hurst we need some excitement!
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I was at the Boston game last night and in my opinion for what its worth the only player that looked half decent was the tall gangly lad Gardner,he's very quick,took his goal well and was a real nuisance and with better service most likely would have scored more.I know it was only a training preseason friendly but would imagine on last nights showing not many of that squad will be anywhere near the starting 11 on 5th August..But as I said it's all about opinions.
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In reference to "the Newcastle lad" that was mentioned earlier in the thread, I was at the game in Atlanta between Newcastle and Chelsea last night. Alex Murphy (named after Robocop perhaps?) came on after an injury and played for an hour at left back. In that time Chelsea didn't score and he certainly didn't look out of place, in fact he looked very assured and even got forward quite a bit down the left side. He nearly scored too.  I can well believe Newcastle will be looking for a season long loan, but I think we'll be very lucky if it's here. Now that WOULD give Hurst the sort of headache managers love to have!










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I was at the Boston game last night and in my opinion for what its worth the only player that looked half decent was the tall gangly lad Gardner,he's very quick,took his goal well and was a real nuisance and with better service most likely would have scored more.I know it was only a training preseason friendly but would imagine on last nights showing not many of that squad will be anywhere near the starting 11 on 5th August..But as I said it's all about opinions.


Aren't you just stating the obvious because most of that team were youth players?  We had a big squad selected against Lincoln, plus Pyke and Khan, so anyone not involved in that game is likely a long way off the first team.

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Have Cheltenham signed enough replacements up front now to let us have George back on loan or as a signing ?

Be very happy to see his pace and aggression back up front !


Featuring from the start in their last few friendlies, suggest he's in the running order for their starting XI come next Saturday.  Be surprised if this one happens, shame.
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There was a suggestion above that we need a striker.  Possibly one who can get 20 goals a season.

Putting your eggs in one basket by investing in one good striker is not as popular as it used to be.
Man City have been successful without an out and out striker.  Greece won the Euro Champs without a striker.

Chesterfield lost out on promotion when their expensive striker was injured long term.  Wrexham might suffer the same way.  

On the positive side 2 teams who finished as champions last season took the sensible and safer approach. Goals were scored throughout the team.   Leyton Orient’s top scorer had only 10 goals.  Plymouth finished with 101 points.  Their top-scorer had only 13 goals.  (Both scoring facts reported on other football sites).

For this season Hurst seems to want goals spread around the team.  Good.  It gives us more variety and flexibility.  Overcomes the issue of having 2 injured strikers/scorers last season.
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There was a suggestion above that we need a striker.  Possibly one who can get 20 goals a season.

Putting your eggs in one basket by investing in one good striker is not as popular as it used to be.
Man City have been successful without an out and out striker.  Greece won the Euro Champs without a striker.

Chesterfield lost out on promotion when their expensive striker was injured long term.  Wrexham might suffer the same way.  

On the positive side 2 teams who finished as champions last season took the sensible and safer approach. Goals were scored throughout the team.   Leyton Orient’s top scorer had only 10 goals.  Plymouth finished with 101 points.  Their top-scorer had only 13 goals.  (Both scoring facts reported on other football sites).

For this season Hurst seems to want goals spread around the team.  Good.  It gives us more variety and flexibility.  Overcomes the issue of having 2 injured strikers/scorers last season.


Those rampaging full backs, Aguero, Jesus, Tevez and Haaland have certainly been quite prolific though..
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As if 20 goal a season strikers are readily available anyway!


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Those rampaging full backs, Aguero, Jesus, Tevez and Haaland have certainly been quite prolific though..


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Gillingham sign Ashley Nadesan from Crawley. Crawley surely about to retake their natural place back in non-league?


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Gillingham sign Ashley Nadesan from Crawley. Crawley surely about to retake their natural place back in non-league?


You would think so. No disrespect to Danilo but he isn’t Nadesan.
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Is Dom Telford still at Crawley .He would be worth a punt
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Is Dom Telford still at Crawley .He would be worth a punt


Yes he is
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Is Dom Telford still at Crawley .He would be worth a punt


He's only 5'7". Good player but if we're adding another striker I think we need someone 6'+.


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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connor_Wickham

This guy still looking for a club. Just saying 😉
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connor_Wickham

This guy still looking for a club. Just saying 😉


Still a good player but suspect difficult to manage and expensive
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Still a good player but suspect difficult to manage and expensive


That sounds like a description of my wife.


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Still a good player but suspect difficult to manage and expensive


A decent version of Richard Brodie


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Think Vernham and Wickam would work well together.


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Worth the risk and ££ all day long


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Wickham will be going higher up surely.
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Tweet 1685955796373229568 will appear here...


Seems we've got a new recruit
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Is it Kayode from Rotherham, looks similiar
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Is it Kayode from Rotherham, looks similiar


Don’t think so but looks familiar
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Looking forward to five pages of borderline discriminatory ‘looks a bit like <someone who looks nothing like that>’ comments. In your own time, go on…
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He's playing up front in the training game.
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Quoted from LH
Looking forward to five pages of borderline discriminatory ‘looks a bit like <someone who looks nothing like that>’ comments. In your own time, go on…


I was just thinking that Gary Cohen looks good for his age.
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This should be fun,see if anyone guesses before someone at the open day asks him for his autograph (and to print his name in block capitals underneath for confirmation)
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Yeah surely someone on here is there and can just ask him .
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Quoted from LH
Looking forward to five pages of borderline discriminatory ‘looks a bit like <someone who looks nothing like that>’ comments. In your own time, go on…


intercourse me, it’s Nick Hegarty- what’s he doing back?
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Really hope he signs it 'Anthony Straker' just for bantz.


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Quoted from HatTrickHero
This should be fun,see if anyone guesses before someone at the open day asks him for his autograph (and to print his name in block capitals underneath for confirmation)


He was kept out of the autograph signing. Trialist?
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I'm still waiting for Redacted to sign
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Kayode played 25 minutes on Saturday after 9 months out, surely it won't be him?
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Someone has said it is Arthur Gnahoua. Had a look at a picture and he's a dead ringer.
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been around a while hasnt he, not sure if he's a striker or winger, but he always seems to be at teams in the EFL
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I'm with the above, definitely looks like Joshua Kayode
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Is it Shaq Forde? - whoever he is, he has a lot of catching up to do with fitness….struggled on those shuttles🤣
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Someone has said it is Arthur Gnahoua. Had a look at a picture and he's a dead ringer.



Played for Hurst at Shrewsbury

(I've no idea if he played for Hurst at Shrewsbury)
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Tbf he did!


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Out the two its speculated to be, id much prefer joshua kayode
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It’s Gnahoua
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Definitely looks more like Gnahoua, but with his goalscoring record I can imagine the kittens the 20 goal obsessed would have if he did sign.
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Definitely looks more like Gnahoua, but with his goalscoring record I can imagine the kittens the 20 goal obsessed would have if he did sign.


I think he's a winger isn't he judging by the clips left footed.
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Don’t know much about the bloke, but in his last three seasons he’s won automatic promotion from League Two and played almost 60 times in League One. Sketchy though that is, it suggests he’s probably be alright at this level.


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Don’t know much about the bloke, but in his last three seasons he’s won automatic promotion from League Two and played almost 60 times in League One. Sketchy though that is, it suggests he’s probably be alright at this level.


Morecambe fans seem to rate him and he's played a good amount of games in league 1 the last 2 years so I  think it will be a good signing .
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Definitely looks more like Gnahoua, but with his goalscoring record I can imagine the kittens the 20 goal obsessed would have if he did sign.


Well to start with he’s a winger, and secondly the only people who mention 20 goals seem to be the ones desperate to prove they’re impossible to find
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SLJ?
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Have we got any recent history of signing players from Morecambe who’d been played out wide with an inconsistent scoring record?
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Quoted from LH
Looking forward to five pages of borderline discriminatory ‘looks a bit like <someone who looks nothing like that>’ comments. In your own time, go on…


Ahh gotcha. Because unknown white players can't look similar from grainy photographs right? Even though we've had those discussions too on here? Some people will look for racism in everything, and I have to question who the real racists are..
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I think he's a winger isn't he judging by the clips left footed.


Yes, I believe he is.

I know nothing of him to be honest. I was pre-empting a meltdown based on some people having the same level of insight as my Wikipedia search.

Personally couldn't care less if he scores 5, 10, 20...for us. What matters is the overall picture. I don't think anyone is breaking 15, definitely 20 this year. But I think we'll have plenty of players in the low double numbers/high single numbers.
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Well to start with he’s a winger, and secondly the only people who mention 20 goals seem to be the ones desperate to prove they’re impossible to find


Finding them isn't difficult. Winning the battle to sign them is. Hence a smarter approach.
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Quite tall for a winger, if Wikipedia is to be believed. Could be a handy option for an alternative out ball, unless he's one of those players who jump a few inches shorter than their height!

You'd imagine it would be a done deal at this late stage, given that Hurst knows him already?
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Quoted from Maringer
Quite tall for a winger, if Wikipedia is to be believed. Could be a handy option for an alternative out ball, unless he's one of those players who jump a few inches shorter than their height!

You'd imagine it would be a done deal at this late stage, given that Hurst knows him already?
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Youd have thought so, can't see him be paraded around during an open training session in front of those fans if he was just here on trial/working on fitness....

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If that’s a done deal then I’d suggest it’s a pretty good one. A record of playing a lot of games in a team promoted from this division, can play multiple positions, rated by fans of previous club and known by the manager. What’s not to like?

Means across the forward 3/4 we’d have options from Rose, Wilson, Pyke, Vernam, Eisa, Khan, Clifton and Gnahoua. When you compare that to the options this time last season it’s such a big improvement.
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Didn’t take part in the team photo this afternoon. Suggests it’s just a trial at the moment.
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Quoted from Maringer
Quite tall for a winger, if Wikipedia is to be believed. Could be a handy option for an alternative out ball, unless he's one of those players who jump a few inches shorter than their height!

You'd imagine it would be a done deal at this late stage, given that Hurst knows him already?


The new Andy Monkhouse has been unearthed
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On a loosely related note, Macauley Bonne apparently training with Gillingham. Would be a cracking signing for any League Two side that; think the Gills will be up there.


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Quoted from Poojah
On a loosely related note, Macauley Bonne apparently training with Gillingham. Would be a cracking signing for any League Two side that; think the Gills will be up there.


Picked up more bookings than goals scored over the past 3 years. Was training with Orient and they didn't fancy having him back. Think he has the potential to be a cracking signing but one I definitely am not envious of.  
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A signing of Gnanoua is something which would fit in very well. Can play more than 1 position, Back-up should Rose get injured and has a half decent scoring record with plenty of experience in the division above. Doesn’t need to be a 20-goal a season man. If he chips in with 7-8 will more than play his part.
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Quoted from Surrey97
Didn’t take part in the team photo this afternoon. Suggests it’s just a trial at the moment.


Not necessarily. He could be on the verge of signing. Until a player signs on the dotted line he is not officially a team player so would be highly unlikely to feature in a team photograph, even if he were to officially sign sometime this week.

We dont know how long he has been training with Town. Today could have been his first day or he could have been with us since we returned from Spain.
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He was absolutely hanging out of his backside during those shuttles and definitely looks some weeks away from Game ready, that’s for sure!!
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A scorer with a good record is all we require. We have 6/7 with potential. Goals win games a fox in the box is essential if you have ambitions to be at the top, all good/successful teams have goalscorers it's not rocket science
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All good/successful teams score enough goals. Who scores them doesn't matter at the end of the day, just as long as they hit the back of the net.
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A scorer with a good record is all we require. We have 6/7 with potential. Goals win games a fox in the box is essential if you have ambitions to be at the top, all good/successful teams have goalscorers it's not rocket science


For what it’s worth, not much admittedly, Stevenage finished 2nd with 3 players as joint top scorers on 10 each, the second highest scorer was a centre half on 7. Each of those had at least one spell of 10-15 matches without a goal - if your main striker does that and nobody else is picking up the slack, you’re in trouble.

I think this is the route Hurst is going down. Think he’s had his fingers burnt going after your guaranteed goal scorer types before, so find a style of play that gets you a higher number, or higher quality, of chances per game and fill your squad with players who might have a bit of quality but haven’t fully shown it yet.

I think Wilson might have a good season in him so disappointed to see him get injured. Rose too knows how to get into good positions, just a case of finding him and I think there’s quality in Hunt, Glennon, Mullarkey, Khan, Vernam, Conteh and Eisa that should help us in the final third.

Would still like another option up there like.
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Leyton Orient won the league last year with top scorers on 10 and 9 goals. Shows that goals across the whole team can work and this team is capable of goals all over the park.
Think Hurst has shopped with this in mind and brought in the players to contribute all across the team. I also think Gnahoua can add to that and also compete with Vernam and Rose
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And Plymouth were champions with their top scorer on only 13 goals.
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The two highest scoring teams in our league last season finished 7th and 8th, so there is more to it than just goals.

The top two teams, Orient and Stevenage, scored 61 each and third placed Northampton scored 62. Effectively, what some people are asking for is someone who can score a third of the teams goals if they break the 20 goal barrier, and that isn't going to happen very often. We scored 49, so we need to up that by a dozen. We also need to concede less to be up there. I think we have made strides in the forward and defensive areas, so we should do better on our goal difference than we did last season. Whether we have improved enough in both boxes remains to be seen.

The aim is to lose single figures in games if you want to be top 3.
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And Plymouth were champions with their top scorer on only 13 goals.


Very true.

As you and the previous couple of posters have proved (**), you could refute Blundellite’s comments with virtually any league or cup winner for the past 15 years.

**Admittedly, It’s the equivalent of pulling in Pier 39…on A-level results night…when the rest of the planet has been obliterated by nuclear Armageddon and all hope of human survival rests in the sweaty, pants of a handful of Lynx Africa intoxicated teens.
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Will Bapaga released by Cov and still without a club. Thought he looked green but full of potential when he was here. Wouldn't be unhappy to see him sign
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On a loosely related note, Macauley Bonne apparently training with Gillingham. Would be a cracking signing for any League Two side that; think the Gills will be up there.


According to Wiki he is 12.5 feet (3.80m) tall, so I'm a bit surprised PH hasn't gone for him - having stated he wanted more height in the team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macauley_Bonne
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Quoted from 137


According to Wiki he is 12.5 feet (3.80m) tall, so I'm a bit surprised PH hasn't gone for him - having stated he wanted more height in the team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macauley_Bonne


How do you know that he hasn’t?
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Quoted from 137


According to Wiki he is 12.5 feet (3.80m) tall, so I'm a bit surprised PH hasn't gone for him - having stated he wanted more height in the team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macauley_Bonne


122 goals in 16 games for Charlton isn't too bad. If we singed him we'd finally have that 200 goal a season striker we've been looking for.
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mistakes are abundant in all walks of life - particularly with spelling on Fishy forums.
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intercourse me, it’s Nick Hegarty- what’s he doing back?


He's nearly as fat as Anne Hegarty
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mistakes are abundant in all walks of life - particularly with spelling on Fishy forums.


If you click the link you can see his post is tongue in cheek with what wiki says
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Bapaga was on trial with Huddersfield's Academy set-up this summer but doesn't look like he's got himself a deal out of it.

I really liked the lad.  Thought he was dangerous, could open teams up at ease.  He had that lovely knack of never quite looking in control of the ball and having pushed it too far in front, only to take it away from the defender at the final moment.  Won a fair amount of dangerous free-kicks/pens by suckering defenders in, when he didn't it was often they found themselves over-committed.

End product was a bit ropey but he was only just 18 when he came here.  

Seem to recall he had a fall out with Hurst which curtailed his time here.  Lot of talk on Twitter when he was released by Coventry that he was highly rated but his attitude was holding him back.
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Didn't think this question warranted a new thread, but when are the squad numbers out?


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Didn't think this question warranted a new thread, but when are the squad numbers out?


Saturday morning probably. Everyone's busy putting the roof on the pontoon at the minute.
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Swindon sign Jake Young on loan from Bradford. Was mentioned a couple of times earlier in the thread.


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Swindon sign Jake Young on loan from Bradford. Was mentioned a couple of times earlier in the thread.

Said it when he was linked with us but doesn't have glowing reviews from Bradford/Barrow fans, I'm not fussed that we've not been in for him.
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Are we set to announce Arthur Gnahore before the Weekend?
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I can’t name a team in this league that have really impressed me with their signings aside from us, genuinely. Seems to have been incredibly quiet and the ones that have been active have signed some real shite.
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I can’t name a team in this league that have really impressed me with their signings aside from us, genuinely. Seems to have been incredibly quiet and the ones that have been active have signed some real shite.


A lot of teams haven't need to, to be fair. Notts County, Wrexham and Stockport already had incredibly strong teams and have added extra quality on top of that. Boyle, Powell and McGoldrick are all really good for this level.

We're definitely stronger and have recruited really well, but it's a stronger league this year. It should be an exciting season.
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I can’t name a team in this league that have really impressed me with their signings aside from us, genuinely. Seems to have been incredibly quiet and the ones that have been active have signed some real shite.


Off the top of my head.. Bradford, Gillingham, Walsall, Doncaster, Salford, Mansfield, Barrow, Stockport, Notts County, Sutton all seem to have improved. Some significantly, and some not quite so, but they were fairly strong anyway. Add Wrexham to that list and also MK Dons, Swindon and Tranmere who could compete, it's going to be a strong League Two and shouldn't be underestimated. There's also another month left of the window yet too. Could easily see some eyecatching loans from further up the pyramid in that time once squads in the Championship are assembled. We've had a good window so far, and I expect us to compete with the clubs mentioned, but I still think we need a couple more in, and not squad fillers either..
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Our work associate from Sutton thinks they will really struggle this season and are much weaker than last season with players lost. Not even sure how they are going to fill the bench at the weekend as they have several injuries as well. He's hoping they will be able to stay up, not try to challenge for promotion.
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A lot of teams haven't need to, to be fair. Notts County, Wrexham and Stockport already had incredibly strong teams and have added extra quality on top of that. Boyle, Powell and McGoldrick are all really good for this level.

We're definitely stronger and have recruited really well, but it's a stronger league this year. It should be an exciting season.


I say this whilst recognising the potential for egg on my face, but I don’t think Wrexham and Notts County are going to do anywhere near as well as many seem to think - certainly not enough to justify their favourite and third-favourite spots amongst the odds respectively.

There’s no doubting both accumulated incredible points totals last season, but they are arriving into a League Two which I think may well prove a shock to the system. The teams they will face, week-in-week-out, are absolutely night and day compared to the ones they found themselves playing last season.

For me, the teams to watch at the very top will be Stockport, Salford and Bradford - in that order, and there’s plenty of others who won’t be far off.

No one’s running away with League Two next season; it’s going to be close and competitive. It’s going to be hard for anyone to pull a run together as you could easily look at the squads of those amongst the top half of the odds and argue that there’s very little between them. This will be a cake walk for no one.


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Bradford can't seem to get it right for one reason or another. On paper they should walk this league, but that was true last season, the season before etc. I don't think they will be up there this season either, Hughes doesn't seem to be able to get the right blend needed to get out of this league.
I could of course be totally wrong though, be can't see it. Sooner or later they will do it. Time will tell.
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I say this whilst recognising the potential for egg on my face, but I don’t think Wrexham and Notts County are going to do anywhere near as well as many seem to think - certainly not enough to justify their favourite and third-favourite spots amongst the odds respectively.

There’s no doubting both accumulated incredible points totals last season, but they are arriving into a League Two which I think may well prove a shock to the system. The teams they will face, week-in-week-out, are absolutely night and day compared to the ones they found themselves playing last season.

For me, the teams to watch at the very top will be Stockport, Salford and Bradford - in that order, and there’s plenty of others who won’t be far off.

No one’s running away with League Two next season; it’s going to be close and competitive. It’s going to be hard for anyone to pull a run together as you could easily look at the squads of those amongst the top half of the odds and argue that there’s very little between them. This will be a cake walk for no one.


That's my top three too..
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Gillingham, Stockport, Grimsby……..there, I’ve said it….omg
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Not so sure on Bradford, I think they've got some good individuals, rather than a good squad.
Gillingham will be right up there
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Stockport gills salford wrexham notts mansfield doncaster top 7 , we finish top half again
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Quoted from fishcake63
Stockport gills salford wrexham notts mansfield doncaster top 7 , we finish top half again


Wrexham and Notts will finish below Town.



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I say this whilst recognising the potential for egg on my face, but I don’t think Wrexham and Notts County are going to do anywhere near as well as many seem to think - certainly not enough to justify their favourite and third-favourite spots amongst the odds respectively.

There’s no doubting both accumulated incredible points totals last season, but they are arriving into a League Two which I think may well prove a shock to the system. The teams they will face, week-in-week-out, are absolutely night and day compared to the ones they found themselves playing last season.

For me, the teams to watch at the very top will be Stockport, Salford and Bradford - in that order, and there’s plenty of others who won’t be far off.

No one’s running away with League Two next season; it’s going to be close and competitive. It’s going to be hard for anyone to pull a run together as you could easily look at the squads of those amongst the top half of the odds and argue that there’s very little between them. This will be a cake walk for no one.


Too right Poojah, I see it as this. Watching both Wrex and Notts last season, they both look fragile, wrex in there excrement house tactics and persistence with long ball and hope and on Wullen. Notts with there leaky back line and fragile mentality. Mullen will be watched like a hawk by the officials.


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Quoted from Poojah


I say this whilst recognising the potential for egg on my face, but I don’t think Wrexham and Notts County are going to do anywhere near as well as many seem to think - certainly not enough to justify their favourite and third-favourite spots amongst the odds respectively.

There’s no doubting both accumulated incredible points totals last season, but they are arriving into a League Two which I think may well prove a shock to the system. The teams they will face, week-in-week-out, are absolutely night and day compared to the ones they found themselves playing last season.

For me, the teams to watch at the very top will be Stockport, Salford and Bradford - in that order, and there’s plenty of others who won’t be far off.

No one’s running away with League Two next season; it’s going to be close and competitive. It’s going to be hard for anyone to pull a run together as you could easily look at the squads of those amongst the top half of the odds and argue that there’s very little between them. This will be a cake walk for no one.


I think you're right re Wrexham. I think they'll be in the top 10 but I'm hoping they come unstuck and don't run away with it. Their manager is absolutely shite, Mullin is a very good league 2 striker, but in my opinion Ollie Palmer is just a decent striker at this level. Same when you look at their back line, decent enough but not outstanding. Everyone is going to raise their game against them and I don't think Parkinson has the tactical nous to overcome that when it's teams like Mansfield, Bradford, Us  etc instead of the Scunts, Alty and Dorking. Notts County I think will do better than Wrexham.


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Hope I’m proven wrong but I can see 10 team’s finishing higher than us. I think Wrexham and Notts will be two of them. If Wrexham are struggling, by Christmas they will have a new manager and will spend big in Jan.
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I think you're right re Wrexham. I think they'll be in the top 10 but I'm hoping they come unstuck and don't run away with it. Their manager is absolutely shite, Mullin is a very good league 2 striker, but in my opinion Ollie Palmer is just a decent striker at this level. Same when you look at their back line, decent enough but not outstanding. Everyone is going to raise their game against them and I don't think Parkinson has the tactical nous to overcome that when it's teams like Mansfield, Bradford, Us  etc instead of the Scunts, Alty and Dorking. Notts County I think will do better than Wrexham.


Are Wrexham even that much better than when we played them in that play-off game ?

I would argue without Mullin they are worse ,8 of the first  11 that started against us, started their  final game  of the NL season last time out with the obvious addition of a 40 year old keeper and a couple of others ; they have only added that CB this summer who sounds decent but no others .

I think we have improved more than them over the summer , and I fully expect us to finish above them , Notts County i fancy to do the better of the 2 that came up.
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Hope I’m proven wrong but I can see 10 team’s finishing higher than us. I think Wrexham and Notts will be two of them. If Wrexham are struggling, by Christmas they will have a new manager and will spend big in Jan.


That would be a concern.
It was a concern in that promotion season.... they was a good manager away from being promoted.
Parkinson is living off 2013 (Which is an incredible story), but has done nothing since IMO.
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I genuinely believe we have a better team than Wrexham Mullin aside , Ollie Palmer is basic at best,  a good lump but basic and he will be there main striker at least to start .

I know keepers play well into there 30's but a near 41 year old playing a 46 game league season seems a disaster waiting to happen + he actually looked quite shaky in their run in  but a good penalty save masked it over .
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There are some excellent posts about other teams, that I am in no way criticising

But to quote Joni Mitchell, 'Where have all the transfer rumours gone?




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I think you're right re Wrexham. I think they'll be in the top 10 but I'm hoping they come unstuck and don't run away with it. Their manager is absolutely shite, Mullin is a very good league 2 striker, but in my opinion Ollie Palmer is just a decent striker at this level. Same when you look at their back line, decent enough but not outstanding. Everyone is going to raise their game against them and I don't think Parkinson has the tactical nous to overcome that when it's teams like Mansfield, Bradford, Us  etc instead of the Scunts, Alty and Dorking. Notts County I think will do better than Wrexham.


Was Palmer not in double figures in League 1 when they signed him the other January?

I think them and Notts will be strong.
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Tomorrow will mark one whole calendar month without a signing. Surely unprecedented to have front-loaded so much of our business during the window in recent memory?

Not that I’m complaining, it’s exactly what I’d hoped for as a transfer strategy, if you want to call it that, and hoping being settled & comfortable with the style of play helps us get off to a flyer.
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I've been saying since the back end of season that Wrexham will be up there but that there will be no steamrollering. They'll get top three in my opinion but they won't be doing it on 100+ with an unbeaten home record. Notts more of a wildcard for me. Clever manager, ballsy style of play. They'll be great fun to watch if they play with that high line, get them in your BTTS accumulators every week.

I'd counter a couple of things that people have said about them both over the last few pages though by saying that they seem to be based off the 21/22 season. Notts' core wasn't as flimsy last season as it was when we did them over twice in their own back yard. If you watched the playoff final you'll have seen Bostock absolutely running the show, panenka aside that is. Wrexham aren't quite as kick and rush as they were either from what I've seen. Not sure if you can attribute that entirely to the signing of Elliot Lee last summer but I'd say that's at least partly responsible.They do rigidly stick to wingbacks in a 532/352 all the time though, that stubbornness could undo them in certain situations.
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Too right Poojah, I see it as this. Watching both Wrex and Notts last season, they both look fragile, wrex in there excrement house tactics and persistence with long ball and hope and on Wullen. Notts with there leaky back line and fragile mentality. Mullen will be watched like a hawk by the officials.


What was fragile about notts mentality last season going toe to toe with Wrexham for virtually the entire season winning almost every game? If you mean after they missed the pen and nearly didn't go up yeah, but that was the specific circumstances of their situation rather than a general season long fragile mentality thing.
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Was Palmer not in double figures in League 1 when they signed him the other January?

I think them and Notts will be strong.


No he scored 5 in 18 for Wimbledon. Wrexhams best player is Elliott Lee by some distance, Mullin scores the goals but Lee makes everything tick.
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No he scored 5 in 18 for Wimbledon. Wrexhams best player is Elliott Lee by some distance, Mullin scores the goals but Lee makes everything tick.

Yep Lee was quality from everything I saw of him last season. He seems to only score tap ins on the line or Connellesque screamers too, he'll cause plenty of problems next season.

Palmer was great when first signed for them but by all accounts he's lost his way a bit. Sounds like Sam Dalby who was bench fodder in 21/22 is on level pegging with him now having stepped up. I'd have Palmer here in a flash still though, just not at the wage he'll be on at Wrexham! Think he'll do a job at times for them. Apparently they're looking at bringing in another striker, so they'll be well stocked up top with Billy Waters as well.

I think if they encounter problems they'll be at the back, especially if Hayden gets injured again. Despite how dominant they have been over the last couple of years, they seemed to get sucked into these epic free scoring matches all too often. Which is fine when it's happening at home to Barnet or Dover but as we saw in our semi, if that happens against better opposition it doesn't always result in a 6-5 win.
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Sounds like we’ll end up signing Gnahoua to me.
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Full interview here. Mullarkey fit and available.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0g4ky5r


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Barnsley striker and top Wrexham target James Norwood signs for…Oldham??

I’m not quite sure what’s going on at Barnsley, Wrexham or Oldham tbh.

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Paid a fee too.

11 goals in League One last season definitely chalks up well against what the Conference has to offer.
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Paid a fee too.

11 goals in League One last season definitely chalks up well against what the Conference has to offer.


York and Oldham are certainly doing their best to keep Chesterfield down there for another season.
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York and Oldham are certainly doing their best to keep Chesterfield down there for another season.


That’s a cause I would happily donate to.


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Quoted from Poojah
Barnsley striker and top Wrexham target James Norwood signs for…Oldham??

I’m not quite sure what’s going on at Barnsley, Wrexham or Oldham tbh.

Tweet 1687161492402028548 will appear here...


Wrexham is an odd one. When their accounts were released it showed a huge debts to the owners. I pointed out there was no FFP in the National League and building up a huge debts in the NL would allow them to convert the accrued debt into shares once in the EFL as a way of getting around FFP and still being able to spaff money around.

Their inactivity in the transfer window so far either points to the owners being unwilling to transfer debt into shares and they are therefore restrained by FFP or that they naively believe the squad they already have is good enough to get automatic promotion.

Wrexham could be in for a massive wake up call when they face a very good MK Dons team on Saturday with a very good new manager.
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That’s some coup for Oldham. I’d have said they were way too short as second favourites for the NL but that has shifted the dial. Still think the NL will be the most evenly contested for a while. Oxford City will probably be cannon fodder but Kiddie had such an amazing of end of season run that momentum may carry them to safety at least - bit like us. Fylde will be more competitive as well. Looks bleak for Southend.

Expect Rochdale to find it tough going but Pools should be capable of mounting a play-off challenge.

Dark horses - Eastleigh. Maybe Woking for the title.
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That’s some coup for Oldham. I’d have said they were way too short as second favourites for the NL but that has shifted the dial. Still think the NL will be the most evenly contested for a while. Oxford City will probably be cannon fodder but Kiddie had such an amazing of end of season run that momentum may carry them to safety at least - bit like us. Fylde will be more competitive as well. Looks bleak for Southend.

Expect Rochdale to find it tough going but Pools should be capable of mounting a play-off challenge.

Dark horses - Eastleigh. Maybe Woking for the title.


All true and models the way I think about L2. Wrexham's arrogancewill not serve them well, Notts Co's preparation and signings will. Gillinghm have done good business. All I I have seen are looking at us as dark horses; fine by me because we have avery balanced, muchy improved squad. Play-off's minimum
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Wrexham is an odd one. When their accounts were released it showed a huge debts to the owners. I pointed out there was no FFP in the National League and building up a huge debts in the NL would allow them to convert the accrued debt into shares once in the EFL as a way of getting around FFP and still being able to spaff money around.

Their inactivity in the transfer window so far either points to the owners being unwilling to transfer debt into shares and they are therefore restrained by FFP or that they naively believe the squad they already have is good enough to get automatic promotion.

Wrexham could be in for a massive wake up call when they face a very good MK Dons team on Saturday with a very good new manager.


The strange thing about Wrexham is they say they are turning over £20m+ this year.  Even if they allow 10-12m for non football expenses they have enough left over for a Championship level playing budget without FFP causing any issues.

If they start badly they may start splashing the cash towards the end of the window.


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So squad numbers announced just a short time ahead of kick gives a bit of pause for thought on initial line up tomorrow
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Wrexham is an odd one. When their accounts were released it showed a huge debts to the owners. I pointed out there was no FFP in the National League and building up a huge debts in the NL would allow them to convert the accrued debt into shares once in the EFL as a way of getting around FFP and still being able to spaff money around.

Their inactivity in the transfer window so far either points to the owners being unwilling to transfer debt into shares and they are therefore restrained by FFP or that they naively believe the squad they already have is good enough to get automatic promotion.

Wrexham could be in for a massive wake up call when they face a very good MK Dons team on Saturday with a very good new manager.


Charging 7% interest on their loans to the club too, I believe.
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Charging 7% interest on their loans to the club too, I believe.


I thought they were doing it for the love of the game and club…


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James McLean supposedly going to Wrexham according to the wife’s cousin


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James McLean supposedly going to Wrexham according to the wife’s cousin


Officially done deal. 34. He’ll fit right in with all their other attention seeking reprobates.



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McLean would get a lovely reception at Blundell Park, just lovely.
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I think it’s pushing it to call him a premier league player, even when he was in there he was no more a premier league player ability wise than half of league 1. Still, classic marketing, if anyone had signed him he’d be a has been…


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I think it’s pushing it to call him a premier league player, even when he was in there he was no more a premier league player ability wise than half of league 1. Still, classic marketing, if anyone had signed him he’d be a has been…


He played 100 times for the Republic of Ireland so he couldn’t have been that bad. His (somewhat) controversial view over wearing the poppy on his shirt is what most will remember him for, but, he comes from a huge republican area and he is just standing by his beliefs. Not that I agree with his views at all. I think that politics should be left to the politicians to fu(k up


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Re: Wrexham's start to the season...

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I think if they encounter problems they'll be at the back, especially if Hayden gets injured again. Despite how dominant they have been over the last couple of years, they seemed to get sucked into these epic free scoring matches all too often. Which is fine when it's happening at home to Barnet or Dover but as we saw in our semi, if that happens against better opposition it doesn't always result in a 6-5 win.


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Harrogate confirm re-Armstrong, he was left out after saying he was looking to leave after bids for him.
An unofficial second statement possibly also said he loves the East Coast and especially a Jumbo Haddock. On that basis there’s only one place he’d like to go.


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Wrexham could be in for a massive wake up call when they face a very good MK Dons team on Saturday with a very good new manager.


Good call!

When was the last time Wrexham conceded 5 at home?  



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Good call!

When was the last time Wrexham conceded 5 at home?  


Indeed, hope it was backed at the bookies. Although the most hated team in the world, I've backed the Franchise in a season bet; first rule of football betting, never let emotions get in the way of your bet selections...

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Good call!

When was the last time Wrexham conceded 5 at home?  

October 8th 2022, Wrexham 7 Barnet 5!
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Just looked at their results last season and they actually beat Barnet 7-5 at home!!



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Harrogate confirm re-Armstrong, he was left out after saying he was looking to leave after bids for him.
An unofficial second statement possibly also said he loves the East Coast and especially a Jumbo Haddock. On that basis there’s only one place he’d like to go.


Think it would take more than fish n chips but he looked good scoring two goals against us on Boxing Day.
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Just seen that Jamie Devitt is still out of contract.

33 yo but played 19 times for Carlisle last season.

Huge amount of experience & another attacking threat


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Played a total of 310 mins across the season and never managed more than 45 in any one game. Not for me.
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North East sports news said tonight that they understood Luke Armstrong refused to play yesterday.  Rumoured Wrexham or MK Dons interested in him.
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No thanks Jamie Devitt.


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Just seen that Jamie Devitt is still out of contract.

33 yo but played 19 times for Carlisle last season.

Huge amount of experience & another attacking threat


And if he hadnt played here before you’d never have mentioned him.

No thanks
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Glennon gets the hook at HT last night. Wonder if that means there’ll be any movement with Murphy at Newcastle?

Potentially not I imagine as he managed a full 90 against Fiorentina the other day, probably looking a bit higher than L2.
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Glennon gets the hook at HT last night. Wonder if that means there’ll be any movement with Murphy at Newcastle?

Potentially not I imagine as he managed a full 90 against Fiorentina the other day, probably looking a bit higher than L2.

Wonder if we can spin Cleethorpes as the Florence of the UK?
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Wonder if we can spin Cleethorpes as the Florence of the UK?


During that League Cup game against Derby in 2017 which was abandoned due to the weather, I realised that the family we were sitting next to were speaking a language which certainly wasn't English. Intrigued, I asked them where they were from and they were Italian, specifically from Turin. Obviously I asked them what the hell they were doing watching Grimsby v Derby in the pouring rain and they said that their son was football mad and wanted to see a football match whilst here. They'd asked a holiday agency where to go for a "traditional English seaside holiday" and he'd sent them to Cleethorpes.

If we can find the chap that convinced them not to go to the Italian lakes or the Amalfi coast but to instead have a week in a rain soaked town facing the North Sea then we may have a chance of persuading him.
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During that League Cup game against Derby in 2017 which was abandoned due to the weather, I realised that the family we were sitting next to were speaking a language which certainly wasn't English. Intrigued, I asked them where they were from and they were Italian, specifically from Turin. Obviously I asked them what the hell they were doing watching Grimsby v Derby in the pouring rain and they said that their son was football mad and wanted to see a football match whilst here. They'd asked a holiday agency where to go for a "traditional English seaside holiday" and he'd sent them to Cleethorpes.

If we can find the chap that convinced them not to go to the Italian lakes or the Amalfi coast but to instead have a week in a rain soaked town facing the North Sea then we may have a chance of persuading him.


we should make that guy chairman, manager, commercial manager and give him the No 9 shirt! He's a f*cking genius.


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we should make that guy chairman, manager, commercial manager and give him the No 9 shirt! He's a f*cking genius.


he's in Saudi Arabia now, chasing the petrodollar...selling sand apparently
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Quoted from Son of Cod

Wonder if we can spin Cleethorpes as the Florence of the UK?


With our Tuscan Dock Tower it should be a piece of urine.


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Maher out for at least a couple of weeks so we’re short of a left-sided defender. Wonder if that means there’ll be any movement with Murphy at Newcastle?

Hopefully so as he didn’t make the squad for their 4-0 win over Villarreal the other day, a season in L2 would be exactly what they’re looking for.
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Losing Maher's a massive blow, not just as an individual but in terms of how Hurst has already set us up to play this season.

No slight on Waterfall, far from it, but he's a different type of player to Maher.  Hurst sounds very relaxed in that interview regards any movement in/out but I think we can all take whatever he says on this matters with a pinch of salt.
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I think we can all take whatever he says on this matters with a pinch of salt .


Just a pinch?  


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Yep, just a pinch...from the hand of Eddie Hall.
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Losing Maher's a massive blow, not just as an individual but in terms of how Hurst has already set us up to play this season.

No slight on Waterfall, far from it, but he's a different type of player to Maher.  Hurst sounds very relaxed in that interview regards any movement in/out but I think we can all take whatever he says on this matters with a pinch of salt.


Is Andy Smith busy?
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Waterfall more than deserves to start in the league, and we can always shift Mullarkey into CB which is apparently his natural position, and bring Efete in.

Rodgers is left footed, right?


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Full marks to Hursty for his praise of the fans both home and away.

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Quoted from sam gy
Waterfall more than deserves to start in the league, and we can always shift Mullarkey into CB which is apparently his natural position, and bring Efete in.

Rodgers is left footed, right?

I'd go a bit further than that and suggest Waterfall is best equipped out of all our defenders to deal with McGoldrick.
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Is Andy Smith busy?


Played full game in Hull's defeat to Donny midweek.  Wasn't in the 18 for the league game against Norwich last Saturday though.

A cynic would be a bit concerned at the friendly nature of this photo between Smith and former Hull boss Grant McCann, who is of course now Donny boss.



It's a picture though, it means nothing.  2+2 can = anything you want, if you really want it to.

My honest thoughts are that Hull probably don't think Smith is ready for their league campaign yet, but will want him to continue to develop.  But if he ends up at Doncaster (or any other League Two club) I would be disappointed and think both he and his club are selling him a bit short, I think he needs to at least test himself at the next level.
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Quoted from Son of Cod

I'd go a bit further than that and suggest Waterfall is best equipped out of all our defenders to deal with McGoldrick.


Probably one of our biggest threats at the other end of the pitch too.


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Played full game in Hull's defeat to Donny midweek.  Wasn't in the 18 for the league game against Norwich last Saturday though.

A cynic would be a bit concerned at the friendly nature of this photo between Smith and former Hull boss Grant McCann, who is of course now Donny boss.



It's a picture though, it means nothing.  2+2 can = anything you want, if you really want it to.

My honest thoughts are that Hull probably don't think Smith is ready for their league campaign yet, but will want him to continue to develop.  But if he ends up at Doncaster (or any other League Two club) I would be disappointed and think both he and his club are selling him a bit short, I think he needs to at least test himself at the next level.


I'm not sure I agree with the selling himself short bit  Showed himself last season to be a decent enough League 2 defender but nothing that made me think he was a cut above League 2 currently, though with his tender age he certainly has the potential to be. Would be worth him having a go at a League 1 side for sure but at only 21, another League 2 loan would do him plenty of good
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I'm not sure I agree with the selling himself short bit  Showed himself last season to be a decent enough League 2 defender but nothing that made me think he was a cut above League 2 currently, though with his tender age he certainly has the potential to be. Would be worth him having a go at a League 1 side for sure but at only 21, another League 2 loan would do him plenty of good


I thought he definitely looked a cut above the average League 2 defender
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Me too & a defence with rodgers & smith in lge 2 what dreams are made of & i'm not disrespecting the other two who never let us down
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I thought he definitely looked a cut above the average League 2 defender


Fair enough. I know it's only been a handful of friendlies and a couple of competitive fixtures but I think Rodgers looks like the yardstick for a defender who's clearly a cut above League 2. i'd love to see Rodgers and Smith as a pairing, think he'd help him no end.

But as with any young CB I think Smith naturally has a lot to work on, mainly positioning and distribution. He's got a lot of potential for sure and think it's clear he will have a good career, above League 2 and possibly the Championship with some hard work. I think he'd do okay in League 1, his aerial ability and athleticism to get back and cover is excellent, but would I see him getting regular starts at the top end of League 1? Not right now. And could a loan to a promotion chasing League 2 side be as beneficial as a stint at a bottom feeding League 1 side? Yeah I think so and that's more the point I was trying to make.

Watch him join someone like Bolton now, play 40 games and get promoted, would love to see it
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He's got potential to be a Championship player within a year or 2 and maybe even Premiership IMO .

Mobile , strong , height , good on the ball, good positionally  and reads the game well .

Odd lapse of concentration , but I have never seen him outclassed.

Rodgers looks a very good player to me and you could argue better than Smith at this point ,  but he is probably near his ceiling at 26 .

If Smith continues developing at the current trajectory ,at Rodgers age  imagine how good he will be .
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He's 22 next month, clearly with an ambition to play at the highest possible level.

I don't think he was outstanding throughout last season but I thought he was in the main very good, especially when you consider he went into that season with just 20 games at fifth tier under his professional belt.  I think you've summed it up when you used the word 'potential'.  You've got to test that potential.  

If he goes up a level and fails, he knows he tried and can hack it at the level below.  But another year at this level takes him to nearly 23 and without testing himself above the fourth tier.  
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Sounds like Mansfield are loaning Anthony Hartigan out. We've aleady got plenty of CMs but there has been talk of potential outgoings.
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George Lloyd hasnt been in a single Cheltenham squad during matchdays so far this season. Surely worth getting him back in on a season long loan.
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Brandon Fleming Hull City Left back. At the game.
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Brandon Fleming Hull City Left back. At the game.


Be an interesting one.

Impressed at Oxford last season, was only that their player of the year is the first choice left-back that seems to have kept him from making more appearances.

If it happens, that has to be it for Glennon (regardless of what Hurst said last night post game)?
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If Fleming was to sign I'd expect to see Glennon out the door before the end of the transfer window. I imagine he's on more than Amos and Amos was good last night.
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Would surely mean the end of one of Amos or Glennon, and like others have said based on performances so far this season I’d expect it to be Glennon.
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Would surely mean the end of one of Amos or Glennon, and like others have said based on performances so far this season I’d expect it to be Glennon.


There was alleged interest in Glennon earlier in the window. PH mentioned a ‘tight hamstring’ when asked about him last night. As conspiracy theories go, it doesn’t seem the daftest notion to suggest that there is interest in him from elsewhere and his head has been turned.
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It’d be an absolutely mental fall from grace for Glennon who supposedly had Championship interest in the summer, if 3 games in he finds himself out the door
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There was alleged interest in Glennon earlier in the window. PH mentioned a ‘tight hamstring’ when asked about him last night. As conspiracy theories go, it doesn’t seem the daftest notion to suggest that there is interest in him from elsewhere and his head has been turned.


Seems odd that League Two managers have been targeting him as our week link since the back end of last season but he features as an alleged transfer target for higher ups. Something doesn’t make sense here.
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Seems odd that League Two managers have been targeting him as our week link since the back end of last season but he features as an alleged transfer target for higher ups. Something doesn’t make sense here.


You would think he would do a lot better higher up when the game is played in front of him more with a team that retains a lot of possesion .

The problem is when people see his obvious flaws they are going to target him at whatever level .

I think his race is probably run with us .
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Fleming would be a very good signing for us, couple with Maher, Rodgers and Mullarkey we have a very strong defence. Amos played very well yesterday, and Efete is a good backup at right back. Waterfall clearly is still an asset at this level.
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Seems odd that League Two managers have been targeting him as our week link since the back end of last season but he features as an alleged transfer target for higher ups. Something doesn’t make sense here.


The story about him being linked with teams higher up was probably from his agent trying to drum up interest. I don’t buy into the notion that he’d do better at a higher level. He looks slow and gets beat too easily, he has some good technical attributes but I think he’d get exposed defensively higher up.
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I hope people aren't going to make Glennon their new boo boy. He's had a couple of below par games but lets not write him off too soon
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It’d be an absolutely mental fall from grace for Glennon who supposedly had Championship interest in the summer, if 3 games in he finds himself out the door


Yeah it's nonsense. He had a fine season at this level last year.
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He was fine last season, but Championship level interest? That's just a nonsense, given his relative lack of pace.
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I hope people aren't going to make Glennon their new boo boy. He's had a couple of below par games but lets not write him off too soon


We shouldn’t have any of that. Someone behind us last night started slagging Hunty based on what someone had told him about Saturday. Players have good games and bad games.
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Amos had a solid game last night, and Glennon looks to have really dropped in form this year.

The left flank wasn't a problem last night and the defence looked far better balanced.

Conteh is hugely impressing me with his tackling, running and passing accuracy.

It stands out on very odd occasions if he is caught out.

Both Eisa and Rose had better games. Rose needs to stay up more, as refs are sussing his appealing for fouls - loses him the real bad challenges.

Arthur G (that saved embarrassing spelling) had a really good pressing game and held the ball up well, getting more game time in his legs.

Better all round performance, good win !
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Led to believe Fleming would be a serious capture.

Unsure whether any substance in the rumour though.


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It was Pete O'Rourke who run the Glennon to Championship clubs story wasn't it?  

He's not known for just putting stuff out there for the sake of it.

There's also a significant difference in a few clubs having a look at Glennon and someone having a genuine interest in signing him and actively trying to do so.  Purely on basic data level he had a decent season from left back.  5 assists and 2 goals in the league (despite only playing 31 games) with a very impressive 1 goal and 3 assists in the FA Cup from 5 games, notably with higher exposure along the way.  He impressed in the later stages when we were on the box too.

He hasn't become a bad player, far from it.  He lacks pace and I think that's going to be his biggest obstacle for his career progression.  He can defend but his mobility prevents him from doing it effectively, especially against a tricky winger and when on the turn.  I'm convinced he was quicker when he was here in his loan spell so something has happened for his body to lose that edge.  
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It was Pete O'Rourke who run the Glennon to Championship clubs story wasn't it?  

He's not known for just putting stuff out there for the sake of it.

There's also a significant difference in a few clubs having a look at Glennon and someone having a genuine interest in signing him and actively trying to do so.  Purely on basic data level he had a decent season from left back.  5 assists and 2 goals in the league (despite only playing 31 games) with a very impressive 1 goal and 3 assists in the FA Cup from 5 games, notably with higher exposure along the way.  He impressed in the later stages when we were on the box too.

He hasn't become a bad player, far from it.  He lacks pace and I think that's going to be his biggest obstacle for his career progression.  He can defend but his mobility prevents him from doing it effectively, especially against a tricky winger and when on the turn.  I'm convinced he was quicker when he was here in his loan spell so something has happened for his body to lose that edge.  


Against that Nemane it would surely have been advisable to defend the space rather than go touch tight on him - was a disastrous idea .
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Against that Nemane it would surely have been advisable to defend the space rather than go touch tight on him - was a disastrous idea .


Jolley has bagged a few jobs on the back of going man for man against Malmö. He even thought it would work against Chelsea.
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Troy Deeney appears to be going to Forest Green


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He had loads of time eating gruel, he’ll love it there.
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Well, if he’s half as good as the last left back we had on loan from Hull, we’ll be laughing!


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Well, if he’s half as good as the last left back we had on loan from Hull, we’ll be laughing!


Former Premier League player, in my opinion a good signing.

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Getting accurate free kicks should be a prime training activity, possibly needing some one to one target training on the actual pitch, not at Cheapside, with no stands to mess with wind conditions. Amos training on delivery, and Glennon being dhown videos of how not to rush into tackles and then leave himself exposed.

At the moment, Amos looks to have got his place back for now. Up to Hlennon to.provide the real competition to get back in.

Loss of form, or something of an illness that is not being made public - certainly less speed and energy than last season ! Why ??
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Has there been genuine interest in Glennon and he's downed tools like Dembele did?

It's certainly been a spectacular loss of form if there is no underlying reason for it, although he has been very up and down in his time with us.
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I'm not sure that downing tools would work for a defender. If an attacker puts in a half-arsed performance because he's looking for a move, they can probably get away with it. If a defender does the same and gets skinned game after game, getting a move becomes less likely!
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Has there been genuine interest in Glennon and he's downed tools like Dembele did?

It's certainly been a spectacular loss of form if there is no underlying reason for it, although he has been very up and down in his time with us.


Was Glennon out of form against Wimbledon? I don’t remember having any concerns re his performance that day and thinking back thought he played quite well. Against County he had a very tricky and quick opponent who was always going to give him a tough day and we also allowed the wide guy to play a number of quick one twos fairly early in the game making Glennon’s task even harder. He obviously isn’t blessed with great pace so if the opposition are good enough to keep playing long balls down behind him that does create a problem if we want to try and maintain a disciplined back line across the pitch.

He’s had a couple of performances not up to the required level but I personally don’t see him as a major weakness in the side and think he has a lot to offer as does Amos. Not a problem in my eyes but clearly a significant number on here disagree with me but that’s nothing new!!
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“A spectacular loss of form”

Jesus, listen to yourselves. A bad game against Mansfield & pulled after 30 mins at Notts County when on a booking and getting roasted by all accounts. Everyone was tonguing his ringpiece a fortnight ago.
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“A spectacular loss of form”

Jesus, listen to yourselves. A bad game against Mansfield & pulled after 30 mins at Notts County when on a booking and getting roasted by all accounts. Everyone was tonguing his ringpiece a fortnight ago.


Given the hook in 2 games and left out completely for a third constitutes a lack of form in my opinion, given that he's our first choice left back.

He was beyond poor in both games by all accounts.

I think he is potentially a very good player but he seems to make an inordinate amount of desperately late tackles, which suggests a lack of pace, positioning or concentration.
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He's certainly looked a bit on the slow side since he came back. Quite odd, really, as I don't recall him having any problems when it came to pace during his Holloway-era loan spell. I can only assume he must have suffered with injuries which have taken their toll, even for a young player.
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I can't really say I disagree with the argument about Amos earning his place, the performance he put in on Tuesday was very good and alongside Conteh was my choice for MOTM.

However, I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say that Glennon has suddenly become a poor player, even if he has made an indifferent start. Against Wimbledon I didn't notice anything below par with him, Mansfield away sounded like everyone was poor so is it fair to single him out for criticism and as someone mentioned, he came up against a very good winger who simply outplayed him.

Given he was on a yellow already against someone who would have tried to draw more fouls it was a sensible move on PH behalf, but am I right in saying that it was reported he got a knock/pull against County? Are we reading too much into it when the actual facts are that he was part of a below par team followed by a tough game in which he got injured and that's all?
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Hurst said he's pulled his hamstring.  He didn't say when he started suffering with it.

End of the day Glennon is human, he's prone to lapses in form as much as anyone else.  It just so happens that when he was off the pace at County, he was up against a real livewire of a winger.

Amos took his chance and in my eyes has earned the right to start at left-back on Saturday.

That's it.  Nothing more.  Let's hope that Glennon comes back from his hamstring strain absolutely chomping at the bit, which in turn gets the best out of Amos in the starting line-up.  Competition is good.
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“Downed tools”? I’d be fuming if I was Glennon reading that, he’s had a couple of bad games, there’s plenty of lower league players who do that, the ones who don’t play higher. There’s no “Spectacular loss of form” here.


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“Downed tools”? I’d be fuming if I was Glennon reading that, he’s had a couple of bad games, there’s plenty of lower league players who do that, the ones who don’t play higher. There’s no “Spectacular loss of form” here.


Fuming? Chill your beans jim. I framed it as a question, not a statement of fact. It does happen occasionally that for one reason or another, a player will seemingly go backwards.

As i said in an earlier post, being given the hook twice in a row, by a manager that is not known for his substitutions, and then being left out of the squad completely is the very definition of a loss of form in my eyes. You may not agree but that's your prerogative.

I'm also not so sure he has an injury as PH stated, but I'm sure we'll find out in time. I have no axe to grind with the player and hope he comes back fit and firing.
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“Downed tools”? I’d be fuming if I was Glennon reading that, he’s had a couple of bad games, there’s plenty of lower league players who do that, the ones who don’t play higher. There’s no “Spectacular loss of form” here.


It's more than a bad couple of games though isn't it? It's clear defensive fragilities which teams clocked onto last season and have continued to be exposed over the opening games. Any manager who's done a little research will know that putting a ball behind Glennon is the easiest way to unlock our defence.
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Maybe the hamstring injury, if it is real, has been niggling for the last few games which was why his mobility and speed have been compromised.
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Fuming? Chill your beans jim. I framed it as a question, not a statement of fact. It does happen occasionally that for one reason or another, a player will seemingly go backwards.

As i said in an earlier post, being given the hook twice in a row, by a manager that is not known for his substitutions, and then being left out of the squad completely is the very definition of a loss of form in my eyes. You may not agree but that's your prerogative.

I'm also not so sure he has an injury as PH stated, but I'm sure we'll find out in time. I have no axe to grind with the player and hope he comes back fit and firing.


Beans are chilled to perfection mate. Framing it as a question is just a veiled insinuation. My point was that any professional worth their salt would be insulted at the mere suggestion of downing their tools, and it all seemed a bit dramatic, presumptuous and unnecessary, but as you said, that’s my opinion.


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Like ginnywings, I'm not so sure Glennon really has an injury. I suspect it's PH protecting Glennon a little bit and hoping to not totally ruin his self-belief.

That said, I said at the end of last season that I didn't believe Glennon or Amos were good enough for a team that wants to be pushing for promotion/playoffs. Both can have the odd decent game, and games when parts of their performance are good, but I don't think either of them defend well enough. And they both, particularly Glennon, seem to be knackered after 60 mins if they start. I also don't believe there was any truth in the "rumours" of interest from a higher level in Glennon. I just can't see it, sorry.

I think the other night Amos was very good. He had to have a good game and I got the feeling he was in last chance saloon to stake a claim for the LB spot before PH went out to sign a new left back. His delivery into the box was still very poor but he defended very well and may have bought himself some time.

Prior to Tuesday night, our left back options seemed to be two that were OK going forward but weak defensively (glennon, amos) and one who can defend 1v1 with better physical attributes but poor going forward especially when on the left (efete).

Will be interesting to see if Amos maintains his level from Tuesday night. But I'd be amazed if we don't sign a new left back before the end of the season.


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Obviously it’s an impossibility but if you combined them both you’d have a pretty good left back. Generally each of their individual strengths are the other players weaker area.
I think it’s too early to write off Glennon after a poor start and too early after one very good game to think Amos is definitely the answer either.


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Pretty sure we will sign a left back before the deadline. I dont think Amos would be here if he didnt trigger his own contract extension. Did well the other night and by all accounts is a decent bloke - but we have to look for better.
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Quoted from jimgtfc
“Downed tools”? I’d be fuming if I was Glennon reading that, he’s had a couple of bad games, there’s plenty of lower league players who do that, the ones who don’t play higher. There’s no “Spectacular loss of form” here.


Don't worry there is zero chance of Glennon trawling through this quagmire of drivel
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Obviously it’s an impossibility but if you combined them both you’d have a pretty good left back. Generally each of their individual strengths are the other players weaker area.
I think it’s too early to write off Glennon after a poor start and too early after one very good game to think Amos is definitely the answer either.


Thank you for clearing that up!
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Thank you for clearing that up!


Fair!
It’s a disclaimer so that I wasn’t taken literally. If that sounds far fetched I’m not sure you’ve read enough on here!😂


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My mates a Hull fan and says Brandon Fleming would be a really solid signing for league 2. Apparently struggled a bit at Oxford but was in the Hull first team this time last year. A big confidence player, much like Glennon! Personally really don't want Glennon to go anywhere, think he'll come good.


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Thank you for clearing that up!


Best post in the whole thread.


Anyway, I reckon we’ll have one in for the weekend. Based purely on the fact that we didn’t have the usual Thursday pre-match interview with Hurst on Humberside or Mariners TV today. Two weeks back Hurst did an interview with Matt Dean saying nothing was happening transfer-wise only to have signed Gnahoua probably earlier that day. The audio released when he was announced was clearly recorded at the same time as the weekly presser, so he’d recorded one interview saying nothing was happening, then another talking about the signing he’d made.

Could I be wrong? Most probably. Almost certainly, in fact.
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Personally, I don't think he's every going to fit the bill in a back four.
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Personally, I don't think he's every going to fit the bill in a back four.


I agree. Great wing back but not a full back.
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My recollection of last season is somewhat fettered by a fentanyl addiction and spending my weekends watching Poojah shave (Mach 3) through his bathroom window but…

When Amos was in, was he then out through lack of form, injury or Glennon. I genuinely can’t remember.

Genuine, bias free question. I don’t remember.
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Like ginnywings, I'm not so sure Glennon really has an injury. I suspect it's PH protecting Glennon a little bit and hoping to not totally ruin his self-belief.

That said, I said at the end of last season that I didn't believe Glennon or Amos were good enough for a team that wants to be pushing for promotion/playoffs. Both can have the odd decent game, and games when parts of their performance are good, but I don't think either of them defend well enough. And they both, particularly Glennon, seem to be knackered after 60 mins if they start. I also don't believe there was any truth in the "rumours" of interest from a higher level in Glennon. I just can't see it, sorry.

I think the other night Amos was very good. He had to have a good game and I got the feeling he was in last chance saloon to stake a claim for the LB spot before PH went out to sign a new left back. His delivery into the box was still very poor but he defended very well and may have bought himself some time.

Prior to Tuesday night, our left back options seemed to be two that were OK going forward but weak defensively (glennon, amos) and one who can defend 1v1 with better physical attributes but poor going forward especially when on the left (efete).

Will be interesting to see if Amos maintains his level from Tuesday night. But I'd be amazed if we don't sign a new left back before the end of the season.


Spot on imho. I said last season that I didn’t think either full back position was strong enough if we want to hit the top 7. We’ve upgraded on one side (ironically the stronger of the two last season imho) but not the other.

Before Tuesday’s game I didn’t feel either Glennon or Amos were good enough. Amos couldn’t have done more to prove me wrong the other night but the reality is he needs to do that game in and game out. Neither have the consistency of quality we currently need. Something which I think Hurst has addressed elsewhere on the pitch even at this early stage.
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My recollection of last season is somewhat fettered by a fentanyl addiction and spending my weekends watching Poojah shave (Mach 3) through his bathroom window but…

When Amos was in, was he then out through lack of form, injury or Glennon. I genuinely can’t remember.

Genuine, bias free question. I don’t remember.

Think it was a bit of both, definitely remember Glennon being out at least once with something minor but I also remember Amos and Glennon being rotated a bit and not necessarily when one or the other was out of form.

The thing that I find interesting about Glennon is that his best defensive performances probably came against better sides last season. Southampton, Plymouth and Stockport all spring to mind. I didn't see the Mansfield match but I genuinely thought he looked quicker than usual against Wimbledon so I'm not sure I fully agree that's he looking way more sluggish. He had a shocker at Notts though, if Nemane could cross the ball or had any end product that match would have been done before Danny Rose put us ahead.
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Well I will continue in my belief that we don’t need to get a new full back in, on either flank, and would rather we looked to upgrade midfield and an additional front man ( accepting having not seen Pyke or Wilson play more than a few minutes).

If anyone knows a decent full back it should be PH so we will know what he really thinks in the next couple of weeks.
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I think we ended up using Amos more than PH probably wanted, therefore triggering his extension. Had that not happened, I don't think he would have got another contract, and PH would have brought in another LB.

Cropper was moved on, and that allowed us to bring in a RB that has ousted Efete, a fixture for the last 2 seasons. We have improved on the right but not the left and I think PH will rectify that as soon as he is able.

That may be in the form of a loan player.
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Quoted from Sandford1981
Obviously it’s an impossibility but if you combined them both you’d have a pretty good left back. Generally each of their individual strengths are the other players weaker area.
I think it’s too early to write off Glennon after a poor start and too early after one very good game to think Amos is definitely the answer either.


Who says it's an impossibility?  With enough gaffer tape, we can achieve anything!!! mwahahahahaaaaa
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I think we ended up using Amos more than PH probably wanted, therefore triggering his extension. Had that not happened, I don't think he would have got another contract, and PH would have brought in another LB.

Cropper was moved on, and that allowed us to bring in a RB that has ousted Efete, a fixture for the last 2 seasons. We have improved on the right but not the left and I think PH will rectify that as soon as he is able.

That may be in the form of a loan player.


This.

Hurst brought in Owen Gallagher to avoid Amos triggering an extra year, but got injured twice and Amos triggered his extra year.
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Who the intercourse uses a Mach 3 these days!  Or is it 1999 again?

I'm really not so sure on Hurst having to use Amos last season, resulting n the contract extension.  Our season effectively ended with the Brighton defeat on 19th March.  At that point Amos, who didn't come off the bench against Brighton, had made 24 appearances. He went on to make a further 7 that took him to 31 in all competitions.

Of course we don't know how many games triggered the extension, but it's probably fair to guess it's either 20 or 30, we can even argue the toss and say 25.  Either way, prior to the Brighton game we were going nowhere in the league yet Amos had played 3 of the previous 4 league games.  Then 4 of the following 5.  So around the time he reached the threshold, whatever that might have been, it wasn't a case that we simply had to play him.

Hurst has already showed this season that if push comes to shove he'll put Efete at left-back.  He could have done that last year with Emmanuel on the other side.  He's played Clifton there before, Khouri too.  He wasn't left with no other option, he chose to play Amos knowing it would trigger a new deal.

There's a part of me that wonders if there isn't some Hurst mind games going on with Amos a little.  When he first arrived Hurst played a bit with him in the media, suggesting that he needed to toughen up a little (which, in my opinion, was in many ways the making of him).  Against Mansfield, Hurst might have just felt that the game was already gone and Amos could do with a bit of fire in his belly.  Against Notts, I guess someone has to miss out from the bench and in theory Efete can cover far more positions than Amos can.  You can't put a player on the bench just because you anticipate the guy in his position has a stinker.  

I like Amos and I like Glennon.  I think when they're on it, they're good League Two left-backs.  They've got different strengths. Glennon has the proverbially wand of a left foot at times and he can create chances.  Amos is a better defender and I think he reads the game incredibly well, he definitely seems to bail us out a fair bit with last gasp efforts.  But the key word that keeps coming up with both of them is consistency, something both lack.  If we want to push on as a top side in this division, we need that at left-back.  Sadly I don't think you'll get them from them, which is why Hurst will probably bring someone in in the next 10 or so days and probably see one of these two go.  
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There's a part of me that wonders if there isn't some Hurst mind games going on with Amos a little.  When he first arrived Hurst played a bit with him in the media, suggesting that he needed to toughen up a little (which, in my opinion, was in many ways the making of him).  Against Mansfield, Hurst might have just felt that the game was already gone and Amos could do with a bit of fire in his belly.  


As you will be aware, I am prone to conspiratorial ways of thinking. I actually thought/think Hurst putting Efete in over Amos was a way of trying to get Amos to ask for a move, where we wouldn’t have to pay his contract up. I also thought Hurst putting Green & Holohan in the middle against Mansfield was always asking for trouble & might’ve been done to try & eke some more cash out of the owners in a “look that what we’ve got!” way.

Still, liberty cap season is not far away now.
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We can't seem to get a left back that nails down the position and we have had numerous players there over the past few seasons. Maybe it's because left footed players are more scarce, but PH has never seemed truly happy with that side of the pitch.
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Hurst and Big Pharma, never seen them in the same room at the same time...

Good theory though, straight out of the Steve Evans 'I'm only gonna name 3 subs because it's all I've got...apart from the six guys in the stands who I'm not selecting' book of tactics.

On a completely separate note, I wanted to find a pic of Matt Le Tissier in a tinfoil hat to compliment your David Icke suggestion. Instead I came across a pinned tweet from Le Tiss promoting CBD Gummies, it only gets better by the fact the endorsement is supported by Dean Windass too!

Tweet 1658207569461084160 will appear here...


I'm all for alternative therapies and it's not for me to say CBD does or doesn't work.  But I'm not sure I'd be tempted by the fact that Le Tissier and Windass are giving their thumbs up.
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We can't seem to get a left back that nails down the position and we have had numerous players there over the past few seasons. Maybe it's because left footed players are more scarce, but PH has never seemed truly happy with that side of the pitch.


First spell I can only really think of Aswad who (with or without Scott) cemented that left-back slot for a period of time.

Quick glance of those Hurst has signed in that position is interesting.  Lots of bodies but very few who he appears to have settled on.  Townsend is the obvious one, I think in a heartbeat Hurst would have kept him for longer.  Robertson was settled but rightly Hurst looked to improve on him when we went up.  Andrew the second best on that list for me, but little time under Hurst.

Also the likes of Danny East, Carl Magnay etc. who covered there but not their main position.

Conor Townsend x 2
Jamie Green
Aswad Thomas
Jamal Fyfield
Gregor Robertson
Anthony Straker
Evan Horwood
Dan Jones
Danny Andrew
Sam Habergham
Joe Bunney
Adam Crookes
Danny Amos
Seb Revan
Owen Gallacher
Anthony Glennon

If you go back even further than Hurst, I'm genuinely struggling to think of many really good left-backs we've had since the late 90's/early 00's.  He wasn't massively popular at the time but Tom Newey is the only other one I can think who really stands out, certainly since 2004 when we dropped into the fourth tier.  Joe Widdowson started well but tailed off at an alarming pace.
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Hurst and Big Pharma, never seen them in the same room at the same time...

Good theory though, straight out of the Steve Evans 'I'm only gonna name 3 subs because it's all I've got...apart from the six guys in the stands who I'm not selecting' book of tactics.

On a completely separate note, I wanted to find a pic of Matt Le Tissier in a tinfoil hat to compliment your David Icke suggestion. Instead I came across a pinned tweet from Le Tiss promoting CBD Gummies, it only gets better by the fact the endorsement is supported by Dean Windass too!

Tweet 1658207569461084160 will appear here...


I'm all for alternative therapies and it's not for me to say CBD does or doesn't work.  But I'm not sure I'd be tempted by the fact that Le Tissier and Windass are giving their thumbs up.


Wow! On the day that the fella who was on your TV screen at 5pm every night for two years imploring you to take the shot, stay away from people and wear a useless muzzle, gets a lucrative contract with one of the companies who made the shot. Do catch up Diehard.. we'll wait for you..

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If you go back even further than Hurst, I'm genuinely struggling to think of many really good left-backs we've had since the late 90's/early 00's.  He wasn't massively popular at the time but Tom Newey is the only other one I can think who really stands out, certainly since 2004 when we dropped into the fourth tier.  Joe Widdowson started well but tailed off at an alarming pace.


You could probably say this about a lot of positions/players since the late 90s, we had poor teams where decent players stuck out like sore thumbs and generally moved on quickly.

Your list of left backs is a morass of mediocrity with only a couple of players who would get near the current team.


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Aye, I think left back just seems to stick out more.  In other positions we've had very good players and then a lot just ok players, there just seems to be more dross on the list of left backs.
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Wow! On the day that the fella who was on your TV screen at 5pm every night for two years imploring you to take the shot, stay away from people and wear a useless muzzle, gets a lucrative contract with one of the companies who made the shot. Do catch up Diehard.. we'll wait for you..



Yeah it was a (bad) attempt at light humour because Windass and Le Tiss aren't what I would class as a driving force behind sales of ca...y'know what, forget it.  It's Friday, the weekend's knocking on the door. Have a good 'un.
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Who the intercourse uses a Mach 3 these days!  Or is it 1999 again?

I'm really not so sure on Hurst having to use Amos last season, resulting n the contract extension.  Our season effectively ended with the Brighton defeat on 19th March.  At that point Amos, who didn't come off the bench against Brighton, had made 24 appearances. He went on to make a further 7 that took him to 31 in all competitions.

Of course we don't know how many games triggered the extension, but it's probably fair to guess it's either 20 or 30, we can even argue the toss and say 25.  Either way, prior to the Brighton game we were going nowhere in the league yet Amos had played 3 of the previous 4 league games.  Then 4 of the following 5.  So around the time he reached the threshold, whatever that might have been, it wasn't a case that we simply had to play him.

Hurst has already showed this season that if push comes to shove he'll put Efete at left-back.  He could have done that last year with Emmanuel on the other side.  He's played Clifton there before, Khouri too.  He wasn't left with no other option, he chose to play Amos knowing it would trigger a new deal.

There's a part of me that wonders if there isn't some Hurst mind games going on with Amos a little.  When he first arrived Hurst played a bit with him in the media, suggesting that he needed to toughen up a little (which, in my opinion, was in many ways the making of him).  Against Mansfield, Hurst might have just felt that the game was already gone and Amos could do with a bit of fire in his belly.  Against Notts, I guess someone has to miss out from the bench and in theory Efete can cover far more positions than Amos can.  You can't put a player on the bench just because you anticipate the guy in his position has a stinker.  

I like Amos and I like Glennon.  I think when they're on it, they're good League Two left-backs.  They've got different strengths. Glennon has the proverbially wand of a left foot at times and he can create chances.  Amos is a better defender and I think he reads the game incredibly well, he definitely seems to bail us out a fair bit with last gasp efforts.  But the key word that keeps coming up with both of them is consistency, something both lack.  If we want to push on as a top side in this division, we need that at left-back.  Sadly I don't think you'll get them from them, which is why Hurst will probably bring someone in in the next 10 or so days and probably see one of these two go.  


Absolutely spot on, appearance triggered extensions are ultimately triggered by the club who decide whether or not to play their players. As you say, Hurst chose to play Clifton there despite us having Habergham and Bunney. Addressing the Gallacher theory, he was brought in as cover down the whole of the left side but signed for Spennymoor in the summer as a striker.

If Hurst didn't rate Amos, he wouldn't have made the necessary appearances last season, but I also think there is something in the theory that Hurst knows Amos needs some fire in his belly to get the best out of him.
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If either Mullarkey or Efete were left footed, we'd have a beast of a defensive line..
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I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there Bigdog. For every one left footed footballer there’ll be 10 or more right footed ones. Therefore in any position good left footed players are at a premium.

Mind you I’m left footed/handed and I’m free at 3pm tomorrow. I’m on my way!! #UTM
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Aye, I think left back just seems to stick out more.  In other positions we've had very good players and then a lot just ok players, there just seems to be more dross on the list of left backs.


Maybe. I follow 'On This GTFC Day in History.' on Twitter and often see teams from this period and think 'who the f*ck is he?' A lineup posted today was more 'who the f*ck are they?' The team included Bennet but most of them I couldn't recall or have been blocked as a result of the PTSD caused by watching them.


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I’m reading all this about needing a left footed player for left back and whilst I know he’s an exception rather than a rule I shall just say two words… Gary Croft. Yes he was obviously an exceptional footballer but having the skills and speed to play full back means that you could get away being naturally right footed, especially if you are comfortable with your left foot.
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Sadly I can remember all of those listed for that game, but that era in particular I'm like a sieve when it comes to details of actual games.  That Rotherham game could be a Chat GPT generated hologram and I wouldn't be able to argue against it.  The whole Newell era I can only recall about 3 things.  Scunny away in the JPT after he was announced (great atmosphere), Proudlock hat-trick against Lincoln and him playing Bennett in midfield just before he was sold.  Everything else is, thankfully, a blur.

I can't remember what I had for breakfast this morning, never mind last nights tea, but when it comes to Town I've got a weirdly obsessive memory.  But those 18 months were so bad that I think I just tuned it all out subconsciously.  To the point that from Woods' appointment onwards the fog seems to clear.
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I’m reading all this about needing a left footed player for left back and whilst I know he’s an exception rather than a rule I shall just say two words… Gary Croft. Yes he was obviously an exceptional footballer but having the skills and speed to play full back means that you could get away being naturally right footed, especially if you are comfortable with your left foot.


Can add the guy who he took the left-back berth from to that list, Kev Jobling.

I think anyone who is comfortable on their wrong side is at a higher level these days, or lacking in something else like pace.  Croft and Jobling were just exceptionally good players.  Defensively I think Croft got away with any gaps in his game because he was so good going forward that he often pegged his winger back a bit.  Few times when he came up against a proper flying winger he was exposed, but he was also still a young lad when he left here.  Jobling was just a rash, he didn't give anyone an inch of space.  As effective at full back (on either side) as he was in a man-to-man role in midfield, I think Georgi Kinkladze is probably just about to leave his back pocket 27 years on.
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I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there Bigdog. For every one left footed footballer there’ll be 10 or more right footed ones. Therefore in any position good left footed players are at a premium.

Mind you I’m left footed/handed and I’m free at 3pm tomorrow. I’m on my way!! #UTM


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Was Gary Croft right footed? I genuinely didn’t notice that. He must’ve been pretty good with his left because it certainly didn’t stand out, like Efete’s obvious weak foot the other week.


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The best left sided defenders I have seen were Frank Clark (LB) and Kenny Burns ( LCB) for Forest.. Very little pass them. But that was then (1979ish) and I wonder how they would have coped in today's game?


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The best left back I saw at BP was Ashley Cole for Palace when he was on loan their as a kid was 17 or 18 but absolute class in the Championship even then .
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The best left back I saw at BP was Ashley Cole for Palace when he was on loan their as a kid was 17 or 18 but absolute class in the Championship even then .


I’d always believed that was his pro debut, but a quick Google suggests he’d played some minutes in an Arsenal cup game prior. We beat them 1-0 anyway; Jack Lester rounding the keeper if memory serves (but that might br obscured by the mist of time).  


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Thanks to my Dad I became two footed at an early age.  I used to practice kicking a tennis ball at a wall with just my right foot until he told me to use my left as well.  When I started playing competitive football I scored as many goals with my left as I did with my right.
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We've been spoiled with robomacca nailing down the RB slot for 32 million years if you ask me, so by comparison the LB 's have all seemed not good enough/temporary journeymen.  Obviously they probably were all not good enough but it sticks out more thanks to Macca.
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Darren Barnard was a decent left back but was heavier set and struggled with mobility by the time he reached us .
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Paul Agnew was a fixture at left back for over a decade before Buckley took him to West Brom with a few others.

Players don't generally hang around one club for that long nowadays.
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Kevin Moore started at left back and very good he was.

He changed positions with Dean Crombie and I thought that was a mistake at the time.

BUT

I was was wrong as usual Kevin became an even better player and so did Dean.

I can not remember who made the change Dave Booth or George Kerr but it worked.


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Jobling was pretty good at left-back, for a central midfielder.
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Jobbers was indeed. Dependable, solid, consistent, fit.


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Didn't jobling have a worldy against leicester in a cup game , we won 3-0 i think
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Since Gally we've had no left back so good. Quality player.
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Didn't jobling have a worldy against leicester in a cup game , we won 3-0 i think


3-1, they took the lead. Livvo battered and bullied them to intercourse, never seen a team crumble so much at one bloke. They were a really good team with some supposed proper hard men at the back. Steve Walsh, Ian Marshall, Gerry Taggert....all bouncing off Livvo. Walsh knocked himself out colliding with the goalpost. I want to say they were League Cup holders too.

Jobling played, I think, in centre mid that night. Scored too, nice touch against his old club. Also scored one of the best Town goals I've seen. Away at Bolton when they played at Burnden Park, probably about 1995.  I reckon if the ball hadn't hit the net it would still be moving now.
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Essel has joined Guiseley on a month's loan


With Wilson still a week or so away and Pyke still working his way to fitness, I reckon that could pave the way for a midday announcement tomorrow.
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With Wilson still a week or so away and Pyke still working his way to fitness, I reckon that could pave the way for a midday announcement tomorrow.


Why? He’s nowhere near the first team picture
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3-1, they took the lead. Livvo battered and bullied them to intercourse, never seen a team crumble so much at one bloke. They were a really good team with some supposed proper hard men at the back. Steve Walsh, Ian Marshall, Gerry Taggert....all bouncing off Livvo. Walsh knocked himself out colliding with the goalpost. I want to say they were League Cup holders too.

Jobling played, I think, in centre mid that night. Scored too, nice touch against his old club. Also scored one of the best Town goals I've seen. Away at Bolton when they played at Burnden Park, probably about 1995.  I reckon if the ball hadn't hit the net it would still be moving now.


Kasey Keller was in goals with his long keeper trousers . Jesus that Ian Marshall took some back then at BP whenever they played us , it's coming back to me now .
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Really interesting interview with Hurst on Humberside. Talks about how fond he is of Conteh and how he's not sure how we got him. Gives the credit of finding him to the Joe transfer bloke, extra back room staff proving their worth.
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Really interesting interview with Hurst on Humberside. Talks about how fond he is of Conteh and how he's not sure how we got him. Gives the credit of finding him to the Joe transfer bloke, extra back room staff proving their worth.
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Really interesting interview with Hurst on Humberside. Talks about how fond he is of Conteh and how he's not sure how we got him. Gives the credit of finding him to the Joe transfer bloke, extra back room staff proving their worth.


I thought it was an interesting and insightful interview about other aspects of the game too, such as the small talk with the ref before the game. On Conteh, he also credited the Zoom presentations they have started to do and Conteh himself for insisting on coming to meet them. I wonder who the other club in for him were...
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Quite un-Hurstlike I thought. Normally plays everything down and lowers expectations but basically says he can't believe we've got Conteh and keeps wondering if there's something nobody's told him. Says what a great character he is as well as having huge potential.
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Interesting last few pages on our ex-left backs. Jobling and Croft were excellent non-left footers in that position at a much higher level than we've experienced recently. As, despite all his excesses, was Gally. I count myself lucky to be old enough to have been able to watch them, and Town, at a level way above the last twenty years.

Anyone who thinks Darren Barnard was anything but excrement for us in an utter pile of excrement wasn't there. He and his teammates took the urine out of GTFC and all of us who care about it. Dark days.

To Hurst's credit, few players of that ilk darken our doors these days.
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Interesting last few pages on our ex-left backs. Jobling and Croft were excellent non-left footers in that position at a much higher level than we've experienced recently. As, despite all his excesses, was Gally. I count myself lucky to be old enough to have been able to watch them, and Town, at a level way above the last twenty years.

Anyone who thinks Darren Barnard was anything but excrement for us in an utter pile of excrement wasn't there. He and his teammates took the urine out of GTFC and all of us who care about it. Dark days.

To Hurst's credit, few players of that ilk darken our doors these days.


Think your timeline was wrong . Barnard was just getting on a bit . He was also playing for Wales. He wasn’t part of the Newell era who did take the mick.


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I thought it was an interesting and insightful interview about other aspects of the game too, such as the small talk with the ref before the game. On Conteh, he also credited the Zoom presentations they have started to do and Conteh himself for insisting on coming to meet them. I wonder who the other club in for him were...


Barnsley if what i've been led to believe is true, got quite fortunate with all the changes there that there was quite a lot going on and was told that the new Yank manager wanted to assess the squad before bringing anyone in and had his own targets.. coincides with the supposed Clifton interest tailing away aswell.
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Barnsley if what i've been led to believe is true, got quite fortunate with all the changes there that there was quite a lot going on and was told that the new Yank manager wanted to assess the squad before bringing anyone in and had his own targets.. coincides with the supposed Clifton interest tailing away aswell.


Bloody big slice of luck for us on two counts then.
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Think your timeline was wrong . Barnard was just getting on a bit . He was also playing for Wales. He wasn’t part of the Newell era who did take the mick.


Nope. Timeline isn't wrong. He was relegated in both seasons he was with us. The start of the rot that lasted twenty years. I don't dispute there was worse to come but he was front and centre at the start of the journeyman era that copulated us right and proper. That's how I remember it anyway.  
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Quite un-Hurstlike I thought. Normally plays everything down and lowers expectations but basically says he can't believe we've got Conteh and keeps wondering if there's something nobody's told him. Says what a great character he is as well as having huge potential.


Yeah he's not one for getting carried away. This makes me  feel that Conteh will have a good season and then next season he will probably be African Footballer of the Year.
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Why? He’s nowhere near the first team picture


Well he is though, even if by default at the minute.

We've got Rose who's fit, Pyke who's not ready to start a game and no-one else.

Whichever way you cut it, Essel was 3rd choice striker.

I'm not saying he's ready for the first team, certainly not to start. But him going only leaves us with two strikers who are available. Hence me thinking Hurst has something lined up. Or Wilson is fit ahead of schedule.
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After the beating Southampton took in the Cup last season Theo Walcott will have seen how good we are/can be.

Theo Walcott has retired from professional football at the age of 34. The forward has ended his 18-year senior career after playing more than 560 games for Southampton, Arsenal and Everton, scoring 129 goals. “I'm officially going to be hanging up my boots"

How about offering him a player/coach role?

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Really interesting interview with Hurst on Humberside. Talks about how fond he is of Conteh and how he's not sure how we got him. Gives the credit of finding him to the Joe transfer bloke, extra back room staff proving their worth.


Where can I find this interview?
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Where can I find this interview?


Here you go - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0g7gj6p?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
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Well he is though, even if by default at the minute.

We've got Rose who's fit, Pyke who's not ready to start a game and no-one else.

Whichever way you cut it, Essel was 3rd choice striker.

I'm not saying he's ready for the first team, certainly not to start. But him going only leaves us with two strikers who are available. Hence me thinking Hurst has something lined up. Or Wilson is fit ahead of schedule.
               gnahou would have slotted in up there if we became desperate .Eddie nowhere near ready
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Essel has joined Guiseley on a month's loan


is that the same level as last season's loan?
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is that the same level as last season's loan?


One league up
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               gnahou would have slotted in up there if we became desperate .Eddie nowhere near ready


To be completely honest, I forgot he can play up top.

Still one out from a limited set of options. We'll see if another comes I guess.

Essel can't be THAT far away. He's a second year pro, not a first year YT. I'm not talking 46 games a season on his own up there, but he's looked fairly promising when I've seen him.
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To be completely honest, I forgot he can play up top.

Still one out from a limited set of options. We'll see if another comes I guess.

Essel can't be THAT far away. He's a second year pro, not a first year YT. I'm not talking 46 games a season on his own up there, but he's looked fairly promising when I've seen him.


Guiseley is a big step up from Grimsby Borough and Cleethorpes Town. Hopefully he handles that well and can make the step up to NLN relatively quickly.
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Hope so.

Long time since we produced a decent striker through the youth set up.

Dayle Southwell probably the last to go and make a career out the game, without ever really establishing himself here. Danny North the last I can recall to come all the way through as a first choice option.
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As you will be aware, I am prone to conspiratorial ways of thinking. I actually thought/think Hurst putting Efete in over Amos was a way of trying to get Amos to ask for a move, where we wouldn’t have to pay his contract up. I also thought Hurst putting Green & Holohan in the middle against Mansfield was always asking for trouble & might’ve been done to try & eke some more cash out of the owners in a “look that what we’ve got!” way.

Still, liberty cap season is not far away now.


Although I think your theory of trying to push Amos to a move by playing effete has credibility I favour member-up over conspiracy generally. I think it's fairly likely that Amos got enough appearances by mistake - they forgot or didn't think cup games counted or something. This sort of thing can happen I  industries far better governed than football.

Town recently managed to member up the transfer of that player from Hereford (can't recall his name! - age thing) by not doing what was supposed to happen in a transfer and had to get special dispensation for it still to go ahead. Town also forgot to trigger the offer to a full back player years ago (Butterfield?) So he was able to walk away for nothing, he said in a interview. I recall in I think an Anglo Italian cup match, we were being beaten or drawing in the last game and got knocked out. After the game the journalist asked why Town didn't push forward more in the last minutes as the particular rules of the competition would have seen Town through (due to away goals or no.  goals scored or something) and Buckley admitted he hadn't actually read tge rules of the format so didn't realise. These sort of minor mistakes happen occasionally and wouldn't at all be surprised if Amos had been allowed to reach that number because they were concetrating on the short term matter of rotation and forgot the implication (new amos contract). Its certainly possible.
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Although I think your theory of trying to push Amos to a move by playing effete has credibility I favour member-up over conspiracy generally. I think it's fairly likely that Amos got enough appearances by mistake - they forgot or didn't think cup games counted or something. This sort of thing can happen I  industries far better governed than football.

Town recently managed to member up the transfer of that player from Hereford (can't recall his name! - age thing) by not doing what was supposed to happen in a transfer and had to get special dispensation for it still to go ahead. Town also forgot to trigger the offer to a full back player years ago (Butterfield?) So he was able to walk away for nothing, he said in a interview. I recall in I think an Anglo Italian cup match, we were being beaten or drawing in the last game and got knocked out. After the game the journalist asked why Town didn't push forward more in the last minutes as the particular rules of the competition would have seen Town through (due to away goals or no.  goals scored or something) and Buckley admitted he hadn't actually read tge rules of the format so didn't realise. These sort of minor mistakes happen occasionally and wouldn't at all be surprised if Amos had been allowed to reach that number because they were concetrating on the short term matter of rotation and forgot the implication (new amos contract). Its certainly possible.


Wasn’t it the same with the reason why Liam Hearn didn’t play at Newport in the playoffs? Can’t remember if he did play tbh but I got his sub training top!!!


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And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Guiseley is a big step up from Grimsby Borough and Cleethorpes Town. Hopefully he handles that well and can make the step up to NLN relatively quickly.


Guiseley got relegated to NPL Premier last season, but still a step up for Essel
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Aaron Braithwaite joins Stafford Rangers on loan.
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Guiseley got relegated to NPL Premier last season, but still a step up for Essel


The NPL Premier Division is a huge step up from the East Division that Clee and Borough find themselves in.
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tick, tock, tick, tock, ten days to go. Will Hurst get any more over the line?

I’m still not giving up hope of Josh Kayode, even though I don’t think there’s ever been anything resembling a rumour on that front. Rotherham are in for Admiral Muskwe at Luton, who is very similar to Kayode but with more experience. The Rotherham manager has repeatedly said he wants to keep Kayode in but their fans don’t think he’ll make the grade at that level, and he might have to make way if they want to make room for an upgrade.

Wishful thinking? Very much so. Just hope Hurst has his sights set high in the next few days rather than going through the deadline day lottery. Luckily I’ll be on holiday in Majorca on deadline day, so given the time difference, I’ll be an hour ahead of everyone back home so will know who we’ve signed first.
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I don’t want to be that guy but I’m 3/4 cut…

I’ve just spent in the evening in Deya tap (Cheltenham) and found out:

1. A guy who’s son is best mates (!) with George Lloyd says he’s open to returning to us when fit.

2. They hear of a boy, a prodigious, golden boy, 90 miles south west, who is the third coming, who can see the future. They call him Luchio and he will be invading Swindon next month.
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[quote=3631]

Wasn’t it the same with the reason why Liam Hearn didn’t play at Newport in the playoffs? Can’t remember if he did play tbh but I got his sub training top!!! [/quote]

No! Hearn was coming back from a season long injury, and didn't start because he wasn't fully fit. I remember the game here, they dominated our forwards until he came on, they suddenly started to panic and started booting clearances because of his presence.
Liam Hearn, if only....
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tick, tock, tick, tock, ten days to go. Will Hurst get any more over the line?

I’m still not giving up hope of Josh Kayode, even though I don’t think there’s ever been anything resembling a rumour on that front. Rotherham are in for Admiral Muskwe at Luton, who is very similar to Kayode but with more experience. The Rotherham manager has repeatedly said he wants to keep Kayode in but their fans don’t think he’ll make the grade at that level, and he might have to make way if they want to make room for an upgrade.

Wishful thinking? Very much so. Just hope Hurst has his sights set high in the next few days rather than going through the deadline day lottery. Luckily I’ll be on holiday in Majorca on deadline day, so given the time difference, I’ll be an hour ahead of everyone back home so will know who we’ve signed first.


I want us to break the piggy bank and get Admiral Muskwe actually, purely so we can have both an Admiral and an El General on the books
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I want us to break the piggy bank and get Admiral Muskwe actually, purely so we can have both an Admiral and an El General on the books


Wasn't he one of the rebels in Star Wars?
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Tweet 1694706884048044085 will appear here...


Hurst saying he's looking to sign someone else but not giving any hints of who or position
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That may well be Brandon Fleming coming in then
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I don’t want to be that guy but I’m 3/4 cut…

I’ve just spent in the evening in Deya tap (Cheltenham) and found out:

1. A guy who’s son is best mates (!) with George Lloyd says he’s open to returning to us when fit.

2. They hear of a boy, a prodigious, golden boy, 90 miles south west, who is the third coming, who can see the future. They call him Luchio and he will be invading Swindon next month.


What a lovely place to be half cut! Great beers


No longer Sick of the BlueSquare  
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Excellent work from Humberside to make the intro to that video look like the new series of I'm Alan Partridge.
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Excellent work from Humberside to make the intro to that video look like the new series of I'm Alan Partridge.


Put that in the bin.


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What a lovely place to be half cut! Great beers

Yep Deya make some lovely beers.
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Wonder if it could of been dom Telford we were in for possibly, he's just signed for barrow


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We missed a good signing in Dom Telford
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Dom Telford is the exact opposite of what a Paul Hurst player is  .

He would never try and sign him ( i doubt ).

Low workrate

He was on silly money at Crawley , suprised Barrow can pay such a high wage + transfer fee .
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Liam Rosenior was asked if there’d been any interest in Brandon Fleming from us. From 6:10 here -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0g8xxty

Skirts around the issue a bit, says there will be movement with Fleming & he’s got interest “from a number of clubs”, but you’d have to say there must be something to it if Humberside are asking about us specifically.
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I believe he was training with us last week.

Not sure if Hurst is having a good look at him or just delaying the announcement of it.

Perhaps waiting to see if he can get someone out first?

Who knows. Hull fans on Twitter seem to think he'll rip this league up.  If he's half as good as the last left back we had on loan from them...
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I believe he was training with us last week.

Not sure if Hurst is having a good look at him or just delaying the announcement of it.

Perhaps waiting to see if he can get someone out first?

Who knows. Hull fans on Twitter seem to think he'll rip this league up.  If he's half as good as the last left back we had on loan from them...


In on Monday/Tuesday & probably get a game in the Prem Youth cup Tuesday night then. Headingly Mariner with the spot. Maybe. Hopefully.
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It’ll be an interesting dilemma on who goes out, if you based it on recent form then Glennon goes but you’d have to say on balance it’d be Amos, which would be harsh on him.

One things for sure, you have to be absolutely brutal as you grow sometimes in order to improve the side. I wouldn’t be shocked to see either one of them go, but it’d be a staggering shift if Glennon finds himself on the way out.
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It’ll be an interesting dilemma on who goes out, if you based it on recent form then Glennon goes but you’d have to say on balance it’d be Amos, which would be harsh on him.

One things for sure, you have to be absolutely brutal as you grow sometimes in order to improve the side. I wouldn’t be shocked to see either one of them go, but it’d be a staggering shift if Glennon finds himself on the way out.


Unless of course someone is in for him.


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I like Glennon and all he's done for us

But will Hurst even trust him to play , especially after that roasting from Nemane .

We have a small squad , and can't carry passengers .

Unfortunately he's a liability ,and i'm wondering if when he was at Barrow it was more this Glennon than the one who did not get exposed or targeted last season with us , as their fans seemed to be in disbelief we were so happy to sign him .

He does seem to have lost mobility since the first spell , the strained look on his face everytime he gets turned round looks like he really struggles badly - him and Morris trying to 'get back in ' a couple of times last season when we were getting hit on the counter attack was painful to watch .

I would wish him all the best and hope he has a good career

But if we are to kick on we need to continually improve , and I think the removal of ADG at some point in the next year will be part of that .
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Liam Rosenior was asked if there’d been any interest in Brandon Fleming from us. From 6:10 here -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0g8xxty

Skirts around the issue a bit, says there will be movement with Fleming & he’s got interest “from a number of clubs”, but you’d have to say there must be something to it if Humberside are asking about us specifically.



He seems pretty inexperienced to me
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In on Monday/Tuesday & probably get a game in the Prem Youth cup Tuesday night then. Headingly Mariner with the spot. Maybe. Hopefully.


He might not be signing. But he was sat in the Findus for the Salford game.
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Hurst basically ruled this signing out in his post match interview. See you on Monday then Brandon!


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He might not be signing. But he was sat in the Findus for the Salford game.


I'm pretty sure that's where guests of the club sit, I know purely due to the fact I was sat next to Alex Hunts missus and one of his mates when he scored that screamer vs Barnet... I doubt he was here purely to watch his mate Harvey sit on the bench for 90 minutes
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It's a partner for Rose we need more than anything else isn't it? How we have managed to start the season woefully short of firepower is hard to stomach.
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Starting to become concerned about the lack of rumours of strikers coming in. Starting the season with three recognised strikers is not good. And of those strikers, none of them have particularly good scoring rates. I think Rose is a good player but without getting players up and around him then he’s fighting a losing battle. Wilson we haven’t seen yet and Pyke was played at right wing back by his last club…
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I really would like to see us bring in a Striker, Attacking Midfielder, Left back and a Winger.

I think Harry has been well below last season’s levels so far - hopefully his head hasn’t been turned. Glennon is not a Left back, which leaves only Amos. Vernam has been very unproductive so far and really doesn’t offer anything more than Khan. I think when Wilson & Khan are fit and available, we’ll offer a greater attacking threat.

Just hope we can get a few through the door.
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Green being out for at least 6 weeks will surely provoke a search for another defensive midfielder at least, especially as we’ll lose Conteh periodically for international games.


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I think Harry has been well below last season’s levels so far - hopefully his head hasn’t been turned.


I honestly hope we sell him this week, he’s got zero quality on the ball. Holds us back imo.
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I thought Clifton & Holahan were good today and Conteh poor IMO

Shows you how people's opinions differ lol

TBF to Holahan , I dissed him after the Mansfield game and thought his days may be numbered , but I think he has come back with a point to prove and been very very good the last 3 games , even improved on the ball in tight areas which was one of his major flaws . Hopefully he can keep this form up .
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I thought Clifton & Holahan were good today and Conteh poor IMO

Shows you how people's opinions differ lol


I’ve never thought a great deal to him to be fair, just think he’s probably at his peak value right now and we could do with cashing in & looking at someone with a better passing range. He doesn’t really progress play with the ball, it’s always a bit square, a bit slow & a bit obvious. Still, what do I know, I’m just some ārsehole like the rest of us.
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Quoted from ska face


I’ve never thought a great deal to him to be fair, just think he’s probably at his peak value right now and we could do with cashing in & looking at someone with a better passing range. He doesn’t really progress play with the ball, it’s always a bit square, a bit slow & a bit obvious. Still, what do I know, I’m just some ārsehole like the rest of us.


It’s a matter of what’s more important. Harry’s energy versus other people’s ability.
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I’m with Ska…but also on Clifton’s perspective - if he doesn’t get a move now when will he?? Maybe he’s happy here (fair play..local lad etc ) but it’s a short career - IF you get opportunity to progress/earn more - take it. That said there may genuinely be no interest in him for the reasons Ska has said..plus no change of pace. Energy?? Yes he can run all day but the one key difference the higher you go is pace.

It’s all guesswork but IF there were offers for Harry pre season I think he/we may have missed a trick. Cohen was poor today in all honesty, was due one though tbf. Holohan has done ok since returning but in all honesty you need better, that’s if you have ambitions. For me people bang on about supporting Rose, but do we create enough ?? We resort to long balls down the channels often (like first half today) , bypass midfield, and it’s hit n’hope/chase lost causes a lot of the time for our forward/s. I’ll keep on suggesting to do so well in this league you have to score - obviously..but regularly, and create. Pace ..it’s key.. I see Jake Young got 4 today..6 for the season..weren’t we linked with him at Bradford/Barrow? But he’s scoring because he’s getting opportunities..I’m a big PH fan but his approach won’t get us out this league imho. It’ll keep us in the league..but that’s it.


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Quoted from marinerjase
I’m with Ska…but also on Clifton’s perspective - if he doesn’t get a move now when will he?? Maybe he’s happy here (fair play..local lad etc ) but it’s a short career - IF you get opportunity to progress/earn more - take it. That said there may genuinely be no interest in him for the reasons Ska has said..plus no change of pace. Energy?? Yes he can run all day but the one key difference the higher you go is pace.

It’s all guesswork but IF there were offers for Harry pre season I think he/we may have missed a trick. Cohen was poor today in all honesty, was due one though tbf. Holohan has done ok since returning but in all honesty you need better, that’s if you have ambitions. For me people bang on about supporting Rose, but do we create enough ?? We resort to long balls down the channels often (like first half today) , bypass midfield, and it’s hit n’hope/chase lost causes a lot of the time for our forward/s. I’ll keep on suggesting to do so well in this league you have to score - obviously..but regularly, and create. Pace ..it’s key.. I see Jake Young got 4 today..6 for the season..weren’t we linked with him at Bradford/Barrow? But he’s scoring because he’s getting opportunities..I’m a big PH fan but his approach won’t get us out this league imho. It’ll keep us in the league..but that’s it.


I’m totally with you. I know we’re only five games in but we lack mobility going forward. Some are just not good enough, some are not sure what they’re supposed to be doing. It’s alright having a recruiter but the players need to fit together and I’m not sure these do.
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Quoted from marinerjase
I’m with Ska…but also on Clifton’s perspective - if he doesn’t get a move now when will he?? Maybe he’s happy here (fair play..local lad etc ) but it’s a short career - IF you get opportunity to progress/earn more - take it. That said there may genuinely be no interest in him for the reasons Ska has said..plus no change of pace. Energy?? Yes he can run all day but the one key difference the higher you go is pace.

It’s all guesswork but IF there were offers for Harry pre season I think he/we may have missed a trick. Cohen was poor today in all honesty, was due one though tbf. Holohan has done ok since returning but in all honesty you need better, that’s if you have ambitions. For me people bang on about supporting Rose, but do we create enough ?? We resort to long balls down the channels often (like first half today) , bypass midfield, and it’s hit n’hope/chase lost causes a lot of the time for our forward/s. I’ll keep on suggesting to do so well in this league you have to score - obviously..but regularly, and create. Pace ..it’s key.. I see Jake Young got 4 today..6 for the season..weren’t we linked with him at Bradford/Barrow? But he’s scoring because he’s getting opportunities..I’m a big PH fan but his approach won’t get us out this league imho. It’ll keep us in the league..but that’s it.


To play devils advocate-  maybe your last sentence is the goal for the next 3-5 years from the board ,  and anything else is a bonus- how long the fans will stay onboard if we are still mid table league 2 in a couple of years  i'm not sure - I really hope we are not going to lose the momentum like the last time we got promoted , albeit slower .
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Fair enough it’s your opinion but it’s a bit early. I think that only 1 defeat in 5 is good when you take stock of the competitiveness of this league. That said, we’re coming up short in terms of our tempo and attacking threat quite regularly and it’s obviously clear that PH knows it, judging by his post match interview. One or two individuals are below par, Vernam especially, and I’d personally like to see us either move it quicker if we intend to stick with our present formation or, to tweak it to two strikers when players are fit, or brought in. Personally, I think we are perhaps 3 or 4 players short, all things considered. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we’ve drawn 4 games out of 6, and, with reservations, if we were to extrapolate that, it would make us look like the classic 13th place sort of team, without some key changes.


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97/98 we drew 4 out of the first 6 and lost the other two. Only scored 4 goals. Haven't looked at the rest of the season but assume it went downhill from there. Shame there wasn't social media then.
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97/98 we drew 4 out of the first 6 and lost the other two. Only scored 4 goals. Haven't looked at the rest of the season but assume it went downhill from there. Shame there wasn't social media then.


How is what happened 26 years ago even remotely relevant? Different league,different manager, different players and different times.
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Quoted from MuddyWaters


How is what happened 26 years ago even remotely relevant? Different league,different manager, different players and different times.


It was still a 46 game league season.
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How is what happened 26 years ago even remotely relevant? Different league,different manager, different players and different times.


Feels a reasonable example of the dangers of judging a squad on the basis of 5 or 6 games at the start of a season.
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97/98 we drew 4 out of the first 6 and lost the other two. Only scored 4 goals. Haven't looked at the rest of the season but assume it went downhill from there. Shame there wasn't social media then.


Yeah it’s good perspective mate. I think we’ve made a solid start all things considered and there’s every reason to be positive and hopeful. Obviously there are areas we need to address/improve, but it’s a tough start to a very competitive division/season and we’ve done ok.


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Feels a reasonable example of the dangers of judging a squad on the basis of 5 or 6 games at the start of a season.


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[quote=1122]

Best have a tenner on Luton winning the Premier League 🤔🤞[/quot

Why's that then?
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Good to see that a one defeat (to the preseason bookies second favourite) in five league games start is being kept in perspective by the world’s most positive forum.
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Not the forum per se, just the usual nitwits.


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Good to see that a one defeat (to the preseason bookies second favourite) in five league games start is being kept in perspective by the world’s most positive forum.


I’m ok with the results but the manner of our performances remains pragmatic at best or staid and negative at worst. There’s enough in this squad to be doing better - the problem is that we look disjointed.
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Good to see that a one defeat (to the preseason bookies second favourite) in five league games start is being kept in perspective by the world’s most positive forum.


It's a reasonable start .

Nothing more nothing less

Could easily become a good or bad  start depending on how the next 5 games go .
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I’m ok with the results but the manner of our performances remains pragmatic at best or staid and negative at worst. There’s enough in this squad to be doing better - the problem is that we look disjointed.


Agreed. It almost looks like most of the front 6 have only played half a dozen competitive games together.
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Agreed. It almost looks like most of the front 6 have only played half a dozen competitive games together.


Like Swindon then.
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Like Swindon then.


Average position of Swindon’s opponents: 16th
Town: 9th.
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I’ve never thought a great deal to him to be fair, just think he’s probably at his peak value right now and we could do with cashing in & looking at someone with a better passing range. He doesn’t really progress play with the ball, it’s always a bit square, a bit slow & a bit obvious. Still, what do I know, I’m just some ārsehole like the rest of us.


I totally disagree with you on clifton, I love his energy, stamina, drive, pace, tackling - agree his passing is weak but its loads better than it was (low bar admittedly). However, I do agree he isn't hitting the heights of last season, although as always, due to his versatility he has been played in god knows how many positions already -which can't help.
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I totally disagree with you on clifton



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agree his passing is weak


That’s all I said about him mate, looks like we’re in agreement.
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Clifton is at his best when he doesn’t have time to think. If he absolutely has to pass or shoot under pressure he’ll get the desired result. See also Efete.
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That’s all I said about him mate, looks like we’re in agreement.


Well you said you never thought a lot of him, whereas I think he's great. Differing summary of a player albeit in agreement on many aspects of the player I guess.

Regarding the increased goal threat could we already have that in the squad in the shape of conteh? He plays deep midfield for us and he's been doing really well (although less well today) but he would break forward for gateshead wouldn't he and set up attacks?
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Well you said you never thought a lot of him, whereas I think he's great. Differing summary of a player albeit in agreement on many aspects of the player I guess.

Regarding the increased goal threat could we already have that in the squad in the shape of conteh? He plays deep midfield for us and he's been doing really well (although less well today) but he would break forward for gateshead wouldn't he and set up attacks?


Yeah he played right of a three for them in  a lot of games breaking forward , getting shots off and beyond the striker . But Gateshead fans felt his best position was as the holding midfield player .

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That’s all I said about him mate, looks like we’re in agreement.


Pleased to see I’m not the only one that is not convinced by HC and I’ve not seen him play well this season. Mentioned this fact last year and was not very popular with the Fishy masses but just think he’s a hard working grafter who scores a few goals but brings no quality to our range of passing and distribution in midfield often slowing attacks down as he tries to get the ball under control. Much better midfield players available IMO.
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Just to jump on the HC conversation, my concern is because he's "one of our own" people see him with blinkers on.
Yes, he's a machine, stamina of 10 men, doesn't shirk a tackle, chases and harries the opponents for fun but he still cannot cross a ball with any direction and his long passing is woeful and never really improved.
I'll maintain age for age Khouri will be the better player, at 21 he's a better player than Clifton was and he's also a more physical unit.

Personally, I'm hoping Hurst has identified a creative midfielder because at the moment I'm not seeing anyone who can play that defence splitting ball, for as much as I think Conteh is going to be one hell of a player his passing is safe, but my god, he makes it look so easy.
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Just to jump on the HC conversation, my concern is because he's "one of our own" people see him with blinkers on.
Yes, he's a machine, stamina of 10 men, doesn't shirk a tackle, chases and harries the opponents for fun but he still cannot cross a ball with any direction and his long passing is woeful and never really improved.
I'll maintain age for age Khouri will be the better player, at 21 he's a better player than Clifton was and he's also a more physical unit.

Personally, I'm hoping Hurst has identified a creative midfielder because at the moment I'm not seeing anyone who can play that defence splitting ball, for as much as I think Conteh is going to be one hell of a player his passing is safe, but my god, he makes it look so easy.


We have a creative midfielder who gets dropped every time he has an average or less good game. There appears to be others who are bombproof.

I'm not saying Hunt is perfect but if a player's passes are more ambitious, then they are bound to lose possession more often than those who just play from side to side. Add that to the fact that Conteh is going to be missing soon and Green is long term injured, then Hunt needs to play or we need reinforcements.
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The next 4 days are going to be either very exciting or boring, and may set our outcome for the season.


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Is Hunt all that creative, though?

My complaints about him aren't that he loses possession with ambitious passes. It's the numerous times he loses possession by fluffing bog standard ones. He has ability, but I've yet to see the consistency, other than during an initial purple patch when he first came on loan to us and, truth be told, his form was already wobbling by the time that loan spell ended.
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Is Hunt all that creative, though?

My complaints about him aren't that he loses possession with ambitious passes. It's the numerous times he loses possession by fluffing bog standard ones. He has ability, but I've yet to see the consistency, other than during an initial purple patch when he first came on loan to us and, truth be told, his form was already wobbling by the time that loan spell ended.


Agreed. Plus the being caught in possession in front of his own box when playing the conteh role, combined with a lack of height and strength for defending set pieces or aerial balls. Perhaps being played further forward is the answer but Hurst has never shown the inclination to do that with him so perhaps not.

He has been given a chance at the beginning of tye season and failed to take it. Was given numerous chances last season and failed to establish himself. For me, whilst we have made improvements in player quality in the squad hunt is the same player as last season, has some ability but significant disadvantages too - overall a fringe player in a mid table team. He absolutely has to improve, its a massive

The biggest reason to include him isn't his passing in general play, he is too inconsistent, it's his dead ball delivery without glennon being in the side, I think we miss that. Doesn't get him in the first 11 for me though at the moment, your not gonna drop conteh and we look worse with 2 in front of the back 4 than 1.
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Agreed. Plus the being caught in possession in front of his own box when playing the conteh role, combined with a lack of height and strength for defending set pieces or aerial balls. Perhaps being played further forward is the answer but Hurst has never shown the inclination to do that with him so perhaps not.

He has been given a chance at the beginning of tye season and failed to take it. Was given numerous chances last season and failed to establish himself. For me, whilst we have made improvements in player quality in the squad hunt is the same player as last season, has some ability but significant disadvantages too - overall a fringe player in a mid table team. He absolutely has to improve, its a massive

The biggest reason to include him isn't his passing in general play, he is too inconsistent, it's his dead ball delivery without glennon being in the side, I think we miss that. Doesn't get him in the first 11 for me though at the moment, your not gonna drop conteh and we look worse with 2 in front of the back 4 than 1.


Conteh away on international duty next week.
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Conteh away on international duty next week.


Is that confirmed? Do you mean for the match away at Bradford on the 9th? It's not an international weekend on Saturday is it?
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Agreed. Plus the being caught in possession in front of his own box when playing the conteh role, combined with a lack of height and strength for defending set pieces or aerial balls. Perhaps being played further forward is the answer but Hurst has never shown the inclination to do that with him so perhaps not.

He has been given a chance at the beginning of tye season and failed to take it. Was given numerous chances last season and failed to establish himself. For me, whilst we have made improvements in player quality in the squad hunt is the same player as last season, has some ability but significant disadvantages too - overall a fringe player in a mid table team. He absolutely has to improve, its a massive

The biggest reason to include him isn't his passing in general play, he is too inconsistent, it's his dead ball delivery without glennon being in the side, I think we miss that. Doesn't get him in the first 11 for me though at the moment, your not gonna drop conteh and we look worse with 2 in front of the back 4 than 1.


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Is Hunt all that creative, though?

My complaints about him aren't that he loses possession with ambitious passes. It's the numerous times he loses possession by fluffing bog standard ones. He has ability, but I've yet to see the consistency, other than during an initial purple patch when he first came on loan to us and, truth be told, his form was already wobbling by the time that loan spell ended.


I agree 100%
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We have a creative midfielder who gets dropped every time he has an average or less good game. There appears to be others who are bombproof.

I'm not saying Hunt is perfect but if a player's passes are more ambitious, then they are bound to lose possession more often than those who just play from side to side. Add that to the fact that Conteh is going to be missing soon and Green is long term injured, then Hunt needs to play or we need reinforcements.


I don't think Hunt effects the game enough in the final third ,and the fact he gives the ball away so much in dangerous areas negates his obvious technical ability for me .

I don't think Hurst would ever trust him as the sole holding midfielder in his new favoured 4-1-4-1 formation .

Could he be the answer as a 10 with less defensive duty ,giving him more opportunity to positively effect games ?
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How many games in a row has Hunt had since signing for us?

He's a fourth division player trying to make things happen, he'll make mistakes. Conteh has made mistakes too when trying things with the ball, again it happens at this level.

If we're asking Hunt to try things in front of his own box then any mistakes are going to be critical. He's not a holding midfielder, wish we would stop playing him there. Put him further forward and I'm convinced he'll influence things, especially in an area we look quite weak.

Regards Clifton, he's not perfect but he's probably the best or certainly in the best XI we put out. That said, if he's sold it's not the end of the world. I've long said Khouri goes on to be an improvement on him, at some point we've got to pull the trigger on that.  Has there been some suggestion that an offer is imminent for Clifton?

His value will likely not increase from here, not without another stand out season and new contract signed.

Genuinely be shocked if there's not one or two incomings this week, question is if these are genuine targets we've had our eye on or just squad filler from Academy sides further up the ladder.  Pace has to be a criteria for bringing players in, we look almost lethargic.  I know it's the league above but Oxford are absolutely terrorising teams with lads who are just running at defences. Football isn't quite that simple but nothing frightens teams quite like pace, we've just not got any.
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How many games in a row has Hunt had since signing for us?



Funnily enough I’ve half written a post along those lines twice this morning.

Hunt’s best run for us since rejoining has been 4 full games last Sept. Since the last of those, 1-1 away at Salford, he’s not managed more than 2 consecutive league starts in almost a year.

I think taking Hunt out is a much easier answer for Hurst than sticking with him and finding a system that gets the best out of him. After going with him all pre-season I was hoping he might give him a bit of backing, but looks like he’d sooner have Holohan in there for his physicality.

He was always seen/sold as the next Barry Bannan at Wednesday, but ended up sitting deep last season & 21/22. With Conteh there he should have license to play higher up but Hurst’s appeared to revert to type. I always seem to be making excuses for him though. At the same time, while he needs to do more to impose himself on the team, Hurst needs to show a bit more faith in him.
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Hunt always looks like he wants to play deep to me and receive the ball from the keeper and look to start moves. He intermittently gets mooted as a 10 on here but I've never seen any hint of it. So then if you play him and Conteh you've got centre mids who both seem to prefer sitting deep. That 4-2-3-1 can work but it needs 4 attacking players not wingers who do loads of tracking back. I think Holohan came back in as much for his ability to get into the box and support as for his physicality.
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Hunt always looks like he wants to play deep to me and receive the ball from the keeper and look to start moves. He intermittently gets mooted as a 10 on here but I've never seen any hint of it. So then if you play him and Conteh you've got centre mids who both seem to prefer sitting deep. That 4-2-3-1 can work but it needs 4 attacking players not wingers who do loads of tracking back. I think Holohan came back in as much for his ability to get into the box and support as for his physicality.


Agree with this. Nothing wrong with 4231 if you’ve got the players to fit the system and I think that’s the problem. Maybe Pyke, Wilson and Khan are a better fit but if Hurst wants to get the best out of Hunt, he’s surely got to let him have a longer run than two games.
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I wonder if the lack of a fit Wilson, Khan or Pyke is the challenge. One of those into the front 4 and maybe the double pivot thing works better. I do think Clifton, despite all of his clear qualities is a challenge in terms of where you play him and what it does to how the team play.

It seems clear to me that PH wanted a team this season who would be better in possession hence Rodgers in for Waterfall, Mullarkey in for Efete and Conteh in for Green. Will a team with Holohan and Clifton, and I love them both, ever quite deliver that type of football though?
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I wonder if the lack of a fit Wilson, Khan or Pyke is the challenge. One of those into the front 4 and maybe the double pivot thing works better. I do think Clifton, despite all of his clear qualities is a challenge in terms of where you play him and what it does to how the team play.

It seems clear to me that PH wanted a team this season who would be better in possession hence Rodgers in for Waterfall, Mullarkey in for Efete and Conteh in for Green. Will a team with Holohan and Clifton, and I love them both, ever quite deliver that type of football though?


Personally think Gav’s been very good since he came back into the side and as said before he is our only CM who i think looks a genuine goal threat
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Re. Hunt I think he has to take the responsibility for his performances and justify his place in the team when given the nod to start.  Hurst gave him a decent chance in the first 3 games of the season and he was really disappointing.
Like others I’d like to see Hunt in the team for his creativity but he needs to work on his concentration.  He cost us more chances against us than he created going forward due to mistakes in bad areas.  It should be something he can fix but it’s a little worrying he’s not cut that out after over a year back at the club.
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Re. Hunt I think he has to take the responsibility for his performances and justify his place in the team when given the nod to start.  Hurst gave him a decent chance in the first 3 games of the season and he was really disappointing.
Like others I’d like to see Hunt in the team for his creativity but he needs to work on his concentration.  He cost us more chances against us than he created going forward due to mistakes in bad areas.  It should be something he can fix but it’s a little worrying he’s not cut that out after over a year back at the club.


He only played the Wimbledon and County games. Was left out of the cup game and then for the Salford game.
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Personally think Gav’s been very good since he came back into the side and as said before he is our only CM who i think looks a genuine goal threat


I agree with that mostly and I think that's why he came back into the team but you can't claim he's technically good and doesn't give the ball away too easily at times.
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Yeah you’re right, my mistake.  Point stands for me though as thought it quite often when he had chances last season.  Maybe given a regular chance he’d cut out the bad decision making but he’s a bit risky at the moment.
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Funnily enough I’ve half written a post along those lines twice this morning.

Hunt’s best run for us since rejoining has been 4 full games last Sept. Since the last of those, 1-1 away at Salford, he’s not managed more than 2 consecutive league starts in almost a year.

I think taking Hunt out is a much easier answer for Hurst than sticking with him and finding a system that gets the best out of him. After going with him all pre-season I was hoping he might give him a bit of backing, but looks like he’d sooner have Holohan in there for his physicality.

He was always seen/sold as the next Barry Bannan at Wednesday, but ended up sitting deep last season & 21/22. With Conteh there he should have license to play higher up but Hurst’s appeared to revert to type. I always seem to be making excuses for him though. At the same time, while he needs to do more to impose himself on the team, Hurst needs to show a bit more faith in him.


Bang on.

My brother-in-law is a big Wednesday fan and cannot believe we're wasting him in front of the back four. For me it kinda worked when he first came on loan because of the movement ahead of him but also the time he was afforded at that level. Can't really remember who he had in midfield with him then, Fox?  Don't think it was part of a 3 either as we had two up front.

If Hurst has told him to play higher up and he's still sitting on the toes of our centre backs, fair enough. But I don't think that's the case.

He didn't rip it up against County and AFC Wimbledon, but neither did Eisa... Funny what can happen if you stick with a player and give them a bit of confidence isn't it?

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The problem we have with Hunt is that when he came on loan he was a breath of fresh air and showed exactly what he could do. Since his arrival, a lot of that has not materialised, free kicks and corners with accuracy are no longer his trade mark. He is now more of a squad player.


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The problem we have with Hunt is that when he came on loan he was a breath of fresh air and showed exactly what he could do. Since his arrival, a lot of that has not materialised, free kicks and corners with accuracy are no longer his trade mark. He is now more of a squad player.


I fear that it’s probably because he’s being played just in front of the back four. He would be much better suited further up the pitch.
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I think both Hunt and vernham are a waste of money. The cash would have been better spent on a decent winger  not one that has a good game once in ten.   And a proper no 9. so we can change the game plan . Not that Hurs seems to have a game plan to change apart from everyone must defend first
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I think both Hunt and vernham are a waste of money. The cash would have been better spent on a decent winger  not one that has a good game once in ten.   And a proper no 9. so we can change the game plan . Not that Hurs seems to have a game plan to change apart from everyone must defend first


It's early days with Vernam and we need to give him chance to bed in , so I'm not writing him off ; if after 10-15 games there is no improvement I would be worried .

I have been watching Gateshead quite a bit on highlights as they are a good footballing side - Wearne looks superb , I think his potential far outweighs Vernams - why did we not keep him and loan him out ?

He could be a very good asset in a couple of seasons , no doubt league 2 minimum , probably higher .
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It's early days with Vernam and we need to give him chance to bed in , so I'm not writing him off ; if after 10-15 games there is no improvement I would be worried .

I have been watching Gateshead quite a bit on highlights as they are a good footballing side - Wearne looks superb , I think his potential far outweighs Vernams - why did we not keep him and loan him out ?

He could be a very good asset in a couple of seasons , no doubt league 2 minimum , probably higher .


Wearne suffered the same criticism as Hunt and Vernam are getting currently. He wasn’t given much of a chance either.
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Wearne suffered the same criticism as Hunt and Vernam are getting currently. He wasn’t given much of a chance either.


Did he get any sort of run in the team ?

He's a bloody good player and will play higher up I'm in no doubt .

But then I suppose a lot leave us and do really well , just like we sign players who sometimes have a poor reputation from their previous club and do really well for us ( see Eastwood & Eisa this season so far ) .
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Opinion 1

Honestly feel if you have Clifton and Holohan as two of your midfield three you will not challenge play offs

Needs to be Conteh sitting deep and keeping things ticking over - a sort of L2 Declan Rice

Then 5 attack-minded midfielders/forwards with craft, skill and composure; and an ability to regularly play a killer ball/cross - which Harry and Gav are not really capable of

Opinion 2
Harry and Gav are fine in a midfield three - it is more a case of wide men and full backs need to provide better quality crosses and better final balls on a more regular basis

Even now I'm not sure what the answer is
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Opinion 1

Honestly feel if you have Clifton and Holohan as two of your midfield three you will not challenge play offs

Needs to be Conteh sitting deep and keeping things ticking over - a sort of L2 Declan Rice

Then 5 attack-minded midfielders/forwards with craft, skill and composure; and an ability to regularly play a killer ball/cross - which Harry and Gav are not really capable of

Opinion 2
Harry and Gav are fine in a midfield three - it is more a case of wide men and full backs need to provide better quality crosses and better final balls on a more regular basis

Even now I'm not sure what the answer is


Who exactly are all these killer balls & crosses going to be aimed at - Rose on his own in the penalty box?
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Opinion 1

Honestly feel if you have Clifton and Holohan as two of your midfield three you will not challenge play offs

Needs to be Conteh sitting deep and keeping things ticking over - a sort of L2 Declan Rice

Then 5 attack-minded midfielders/forwards with craft, skill and composure; and an ability to regularly play a killer ball/cross - which Harry and Gav are not really capable of

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Harry and Gav are fine in a midfield three - it is more a case of wide men and full backs need to provide better quality crosses and better final balls on a more regular basis

Even now I'm not sure what the answer is


And where will we get these 5 super midfielders from?  Have you forgot we are in League 2?

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Who exactly are all these killer balls & crosses going to be aimed at - Rose on his own in the penalty box?


That simple observation is our problem in a nutshell.

We can talk till the cows come home about players and systems but until the manager finds a way of getting us attacking in numbers and getting people in the box we ain't gonna be scoring enough goals.

Funnily enough I think Hurst said post match we need to score tap ins because we cannot rely on wonder goals. Over to you then Paul.

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And where will we get these 5 super midfielders from?  Have you forgot we are in League 2?



Surely that is where the recruitment lad from Lincoln comes in ?

He's taken House to Lincoln & Conteh for us who are both at least 1million + players even now, probably more when teams get desperate and panic .

Lets hope he can pull a few more out .
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Clear from his interview today that he wanted to go into the season playing 2 up top. Wilson some way off yet and Pyke needs minutes. Would be amazed if we don’t see another two in this week, one left back & one forward. Maybe another in CM too but probably less likely that one.

The rumour mill, she is quiet.
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Surely that is where the recruitment lad from Lincoln comes in ?

He's taken House to Lincoln & Conteh for us who are both at least 1million + players even now, probably more when teams get desperate and panic .

Lets hope he can pull a few more out .


I agree, but it's ok identifying this type of player, it's being able to afford their wages/fee and persuading them to come here.  Attack-minded midfielders/forwards with craft, skill and composure; and an ability to regularly play a killer ball/cross are not going to come cheap, how much of our budget have we got left.  In fact I would go as far as to say I very much doubt most players with those attributes would not want to play in League Two anyway.
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I actually think we have those 5 attacking options who also have work rate and commitment

Perhaps Clifton defensive midfielder with Conteh further forward - he's great on the ball

Take you pick from Eisa, Vernam, Khan, Pyke, Rose, Wilson, Gnahoua, Hunt,
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I actually think we have those 5 attacking options who also have work rate and commitment

Perhaps Clifton defensive midfielder with Conteh further forward - he's great on the ball

Take you pick from Eisa, Vernam, Khan, Pyke, Rose, Wilson, Gnahoua, Hunt,


I think you need to think again!  Please tell me which of those regularly plays killer balls and crosses.
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I actually think we have those 5 attacking options who also have work rate and commitment

Perhaps Clifton defensive midfielder with Conteh further forward - he's great on the ball

Take you pick from Eisa, Vernam, Khan, Pyke, Rose, Wilson, Gnahoua, Hunt,


Clifton would be awful as the holding midfielder. His strengths are his energy, his willingness to run all day and picking the ball up facing forward when the game is in transition. His positional sense is not good enough to sit in front of the back four and he'd leave massive gaps chasing things down unnecessarily. He's also nowhere near consistently good enough on the ball to receive it on the half turn and play the simple pass well 99 times out of 100.
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Clifton would be awful as the holding midfielder. His strengths are his energy, his willingness to run all day and picking the ball up facing forward when the game is in transition. His positional sense is not good enough to sit in front of the back four and he'd leave massive gaps chasing things down unnecessarily. He's also nowhere near consistently good enough on the ball to receive it on the half turn and play the simple pass well 99 times out of 100.


I completely agree he's better playing further forward, but he's been disciplined enough to play full back and wing back both sides.
The discussions about his worth to the team are way off for me. Comfortably our best and most consistent player, improves year on year.
Always missed when he's out the team, hard running goal scoring midfielder.  
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Clifton would be awful as the holding midfielder. His strengths are his energy, his willingness to run all day and picking the ball up facing forward when the game is in transition. His positional sense is not good enough to sit in front of the back four and he'd leave massive gaps chasing things down unnecessarily. He's also nowhere near consistently good enough on the ball to receive it on the half turn and play the simple pass well 99 times out of 100.


Totally agree. Conteh shows how to do the defensive midfielder role so well, sit disciplined I'm front of the back 4, break up play, plays the simple pass so so well. Not saying conteh couldn't do well further forward but his abilities are different to clifton in being sogood as a defensive midfielder.
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Looks like a signing is on its way..
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I completely agree he's better playing further forward, but he's been disciplined enough to play full back and wing back both sides.
The discussions about his worth to the team are way off for me. Comfortably our best and most consistent player, improves year on year.
Always missed when he's out the team, hard running goal scoring midfielder.  


I agree to some extent but due to his obvious limitations on the ball, the blend of players around him has to be right. At the minute it isn’t, Holohan too similar in that he’s got good physicality and is a goal threat but doesn’t offer much in the way of creativity in possession.
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20 year old WBA midfielder who's only played for leamington n yeovil
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20 year old WBA midfielder who's only played for leamington n yeovil


Well Conteh had only played at Braintree and Gateshead so let’s give him a chance.
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20 year old WBA midfielder who's only played for leamington n yeovil


The fact that he’s still on WBA’s books at 20 is a decent indication that he’s got something about him. Give him a break.
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He's big at 6,1 if Wiki is to be believed.

I hope he's flipping class
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It's early days with Vernam and we need to give him chance to bed in , so I'm not writing him off ; if after 10-15 games there is no improvement I would be worried .

I have been watching Gateshead quite a bit on highlights as they are a good footballing side - Wearne looks superb , I think his potential far outweighs Vernams - why did we not keep him and loan him out ?

He could be a very good asset in a couple of seasons , no doubt league 2 minimum , probably higher .


Allegedly he was out in Louth with Mcatee, doing things they shouldn't have been 😉
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Hurst mentioning good delivery from set pieces (and perhaps open play) which is certainly something which we need. Here for the season as well, notably. Let's hope he proves himself to be too good for this level.
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He's the West Broms youth team captain, so obviously a good charachter. Seems to be a midfielder that gets forward and gets goals based off what i've read. West Brom friend said that he's highly rated and likes to get into the box rather than get the ball off the centre halfs.
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Looks a big strong lad. Will add height to midfield. Seems highly rated by WBA.

Let’s give hime a chance before anyone writes him off…..
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Looks like he’s on smack


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Cmon! Who’s done that to his wiki page 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️



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Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Isn't he that lad who's always hanging around outside freshney place asking to borrow 20p for the bus?


Why can’t the bus ask itself?


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Is he better than Khouri though?

Khouri has huge potential

If this lad is not 'first team ready '?and already better than Khouri ) I'm asking questions

Wait and see
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20 year old WBA midfielder who's only played for leamington n yeovil


Conteh ripped it up at Gateshead tbf
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Is he better than Khouri though?

Khouri has huge potential

If this lad is not 'first team ready '?and already better than Khouri ) I'm asking questions

Wait and see


Khouri has made what, 10 appearances for us? We have this obsession of overhyping our own players, Hurst will give him his chance when he is ready
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Cmon! Who’s done that to his wiki page 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️


Some boring helmet with no sense of humour by the looks of it
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Khouri has made what, 10 appearances for us? We have this obsession of overhyping our own players, Hurst will give him his chance when he is ready


This


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Khouri has made what, 10 appearances for us? We have this obsession of overhyping our own players, Hurst will give him his chance when he is ready


Khouri is just very good mate , I'm in no doubt he would be playing now if Conteh was not , and Hurst did not have a fear of playing 2 20 year olds CM
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Jamie Andrews goal at 4 min. Lukeo might like this ground!

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Khouri has made what, 10 appearances for us? We have this obsession of overhyping our own players, Hurst will give him his chance when he is ready


Are you sure we don't underhype them ?

I mean Benson has done pretty good for Barnsley (I know he was a loan signing )

And now Mcatee has just bagged one and no doubt will do well

Khouri will no doubt play about 10 games this season, turn up trees for a league 1 or 2 club when his contract runs out and everyone will be saying 'it's the one that got away '

Tommy Taylor has made a decent career for himself  to .
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Andrews looks like hes just been hit on the side of his face from an Eisa rocket. Its hard to fake a smile when his face is like a skate......eyes and mouth all on the same side of his face
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Steady on Brad Pitt. Christ knows what his family or friends, or the 20-year-old lad himself, would think reading some of the awful shít people have said about him in the 6 hours since he signed.
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Quoted from Hagrid


Khouri has made what, 10 appearances for us? We have this obsession of overhyping our own players, Hurst will give him his chance when he is ready


Yeah, Clifton for one, Khouri ( and also Hunt) should have been afforded a longer run of games to show what they can do without the fear of being dropped first mistake they make. How often does Clifton lose the ball in comparison?
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Scoring forward needed, I see Kabamba popped in a hat trick today for Barnet.

His name was put up several times esrly on in the thread.

I also see that Mani has had a good start at Hartlepool.

Hurst wants 6 yard poke ins, Mani would have been a poacher at very little cost to the squad.
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Steady on Brad Pitt. Christ knows what his family or friends, or the 20-year-old lad himself, would think reading some of the awful shít people have said about him in the 6 hours since he signed.


Some diabolical comments on the twitter thread
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Town fans on Twitter are getting worse.

There’s one saying he looks like he’s been doing meths for 4 days straight or something. Everyone is absolutely desperate to pile in and moan about anything and everything from the word go. I knew we were an impatient bunch but we’re getting worse and more intolerant. Heaven forbid if it was actually bad again!


I've wasted my life in black and white, a pathetic act for a worthless cause
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I know theres been some silly comments, but god, its a bloody awful photo. Surely the photographer/ social media person should've spotted this?
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Quoted from Mariner_09
Town fans on Twitter are getting worse.

There’s one saying he looks like he’s been doing meths for 4 days straight or something. Everyone is absolutely desperate to pile in and moan about anything and everything from the word go. I knew we were an impatient bunch but we’re getting worse and more intolerant. Heaven forbid if it was actually bad again!


Absolutely spot on. I'm not on Twitter so haven't seen any of that but i like to have a read of the fishy every evening. Well going on what I have read tonight you would think we were nailed on for relegation and our old custodian was back!! I know it is not just fans of our club, others are probably just as bad, but it's really starting to annoy me to the point where I can't really be bothered to even read what's on here due to the absolute nonsense and negativity that is branded about. Yes I know it's a forum and everyone has a right to an opinion etc etc. But the suggestion from some that Hurst should go and can't take us further is just laughable, I'm not saying the past should give him a free ride but come on people think about the last 2 seasons!! Plus Clifton is suddenly the boo boy and doesn't deserve his place? The same player who was almost everyone's choice for player of season last year? Crikey memories really are short aren't they. I would give the pair of them contracts for the rest of their careers if I could!!

Maybe I am getting old and this is the norm now sparked by social media etc. Likely I think it just reflects society as a whole now, everyone so quick to overreact and think just about today and not tomorrow. I think the fact the just back thread is always twice as long after a defeat compared to a win probably backs that theory up. Sad times.
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Quoted from forza ivano
I know theres been some silly comments, but god, its a bloody awful photo. Surely the photographer/ social media person should've spotted this?


Thought the same with the photos of the 3rd kit last week. Been about 6 months in the offing, least they could do was a proper photoshoot.
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What that picture says to me is he is happy to get stuck in and take a few knocks. Welcome Jamie.
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Is that a new criteria to add to the list for signings now?

Only photogenic players allowed.
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He’s better presented than quite a few of the Town fans I see at matches…


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Quoted from louth_in_the_south
Looks like he’s on smack


No need for the personal insults bud

There are quite a few on Twitter world , people need to think how it might make the lad feel and also how it portrays us as a fanbase - commenting on him signing that he looks like a junkie/smackhead or whatever is hardly going to paint us in a good light to perspective signings or make anyone look good .

Does anyone know what he's like as a player ?
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As mentioned above it’s a bloody awful photo to put up on the official club page . I’d be really pi.she’d off if I was the player.
Also should be said it’s all tongue in cheek , people need to loosen up a bit ffs


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Who honestly gives a intercourse what he looks like?

Makes perfect sense to bring in another midfielder seeing as we're now without both Conteh and Green for a considerable period.  That only leaves us with 4 covering 3 positions, or even 2 positions but you can probably be sure that if we go to a 4-4-2 Clifton will be one of the wingers, so 3 covering 2.

Less than 4 days before the window ends, Hurst pretty much saying he wanted/wants 2 up top just adds more weight to the belief we'll be bringing at least one forward in.  As with the midfield, you can't cover 2 positions with 3 players for a sustained period of time.

Hopefully a full game tonight for Pyke to increase his fitness but until Wilson is back and there's at least one more striker in the building, we're a bit limited on options to say the least.
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Are you sure we don't underhype them ?

I mean Benson has done pretty good for Barnsley (I know he was a loan signing )

And now Mcatee has just bagged one and no doubt will do well

Khouri will no doubt play about 10 games this season, turn up trees for a league 1 or 2 club when his contract runs out and everyone will be saying 'it's the one that got away '

Tommy Taylor has made a decent career for himself  to .


Neither Benson or McAtee were 'one of our own', and Tommy Taylor who played for Man United never played for Grimsby as far as I know,  I'll stand corrected if wrong, so what is your point?

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I think he means Terry Taylor.
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Is he better than Khouri though?

Khouri has huge potential

If this lad is not 'first team ready '?and already better than Khouri ) I'm asking questions

Wait and see


So you don't think that a lad who is under contract with WBA is potentially  better than Khouri who plays for us?  And as a matter of fact, Khouri is not 'one of our own' as he was originally with West Ham.
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A lot of the personal remarks by some are simply unnecessary.

All I see is a young player eager to prove himself with an opportunity to get some playing time in professional football. Hurst has seen him play and likes what he has seen. He's still on the books of a Championship club at the age of almost 21 so he must have some ability.

I wish him luck and hope his time with the Mariners is a successful one.
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I think he means Terry Taylor.


Was there a Tommy Taylor that Slade signed from a Norwegian team, that never played a game for us?

(although I assume he means Terry too!)


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So you don't think that a lad who is under contract with WBA is potentially better than Khouri who plays for us?


You would certainly hope so, BUT it's not guaranteed. The one good thing about our current management and backroom boys is that they do do research into players. We know that because of the quality of players signed in the summer window. Hurst said Andrews had been watched several times, going back to January this year, so just the fact that he has been on their radar for a while is a much better system than Holloway's shut your eyes and

"Eenie meenie miney mo
pick a random player
and see how we go
"

attitude to loan players.
Also, the fact that they have got the deal sorted in plenty of time before the transfer window slams shut, shows that HOPEFULLY we won't be signing random nobody's at 11.59pm this time round.

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We got George lloyd last year from Cheltenham and people (the usual lot!) all complained as they’d never heard of him and he hadn’t scored 390 goals while on a season long loan at fenerbache, but I’d say 95% of supporters wouldn’t have complained had he been back this season


Give the lad a break and am sure he’ll enjoy his time at BP


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Was there a Tommy Taylor that Slade signed from a Norwegian team, that never played a game for us?

(although I assume he means Terry too!)


Indeed there was, I'd like to pass this off as knowledge but it's purely from Wikipedia....given his first professional contract at Viking FK by none other than Roy Hodgson.  

Back-to-back former PE Teachers as managers.  Richard Money preventing a hat-trick when signing him for Walsall, shame.
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So you don't think that a lad who is under contract with WBA is potentially  better than Khouri who plays for us?  And as a matter of fact, Khouri is not 'one of our own' as he was originally with West Ham.


Owen Wilson was under contract ar WBA..and he's in NLS now I believe, so by extrapolating your logic, yes, Khouri is better....
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Who honestly gives a intercourse what he looks like?

Makes perfect sense to bring in another midfielder seeing as we're now without both Conteh


Sorry, I've missed some news here. What's happened to Conteh?

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Owen Wilson was under contract ar WBA..and he's in NLS now I believe, so by extrapolating your logic, yes, Khouri is better....


Frankly he's doing well to be playing a decent level of semi-pro football at the age of 54.
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Sorry, I've missed some news here. What's happened to Conteh?



Conteh will be missing for up to 6 games this season owing to going away with Sierra Leone, starting with Bradford in a couple of weeks.


I've wasted my life in black and white, a pathetic act for a worthless cause
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The squad hasn’t been announced yet, but very likely he’ll be included.
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So you don't think that a lad who is under contract with WBA is potentially  better than Khouri who plays for us?  And as a matter of fact, Khouri is not 'one of our own' as he was originally with West Ham.


He came through our youth system after leaving West Ham , so he is a homegrown player technically at least . I mean you could class loads of players not 'one of our own ' if you counted one's that started out somewhere else and played for us from a relatively young age.  


I don't know if he's better or not , time will tell - I'm just frustrated Khouri isn't getting much of a look in and this might push him down the pecking order , he leaves when his contract runs out and then rips it up somewhere else and we are all asking why didn't he get more of a chance .

It was Terry Taylor i was talking about not Tommy , my mistake .
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Conteh will be missing for up to 6 games this season owing to going away with Sierra Leone, starting with Bradford in a couple of weeks.


Ahhh thanks
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Owen Wilson was under contract ar WBA..and he's in NLS now I believe, so by extrapolating your logic, yes, Khouri is better....


Absolute rubbish, btw I think you mean Owen Windsor, not Wilson.  He was released by WBA, James is under contract till 2024.
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Absolute rubbish, btw I think you mean Owen Windsor, not Wilson.  He was released by WBA, James is under contract till 2004.


I love the irony of this post.
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I love the irony of this post.


Please explain!  If it's the typo, it's been corrected.
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Please explain!  If it's the typo, it's been corrected.


Bingo. The irony of correcting someone else and then making a silly error is very amusing as I'm sure you can see.
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Bingo. The irony of correcting someone else and then making a silly error is very amusing as I'm sure you can see.


Many people of my age end up with numerous illnesses and disabilities.  One of mine is Severely Narrowed Tear Ducts, which end up producing excessive fluid in my eyes, making it extremely difficult to identify the keys on my keyboard most of the time, and therefore mistakes are made.  I try to correct mistakes before I post, but sometimes I miss them.  I make no apologies for that.

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Many people of my age end up with numerous illnesses and disabilities.  One of mine is Severely Narrowed Tear Ducts, which end up producing excessive fluid in my eyes, making it extremely difficult to identify the keys on my keyboard most of the time, and therefore mistakes are made.  I try to correct mistakes before I post, but sometimes I miss them.  I make no apologies for that.



Lighten up mate.
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Many people of my age end up with numerous illnesses and disabilities.  One of mine is Severely Narrowed Tear Ducts, which end up producing excessive fluid in my eyes, making it extremely difficult to identify the keys on my keyboard most of the time, and therefore mistakes are made.  I try to correct mistakes before I post, but sometimes I miss them.  I make no apologies for that.



This reads like it could be a verse from the geriatric version of “Dry your eyes” by the Streets.


A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner.
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Lighten up mate.


Wow, you will get old one day mate,  What a tosser.

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This thread needs to be jettisoned into the sun at 11:01pm on Friday night.
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Wow, you will get old one day mate,  What a tosser.



Hope so. Have a good day.
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This thread needs to be jettisoned into the sun at 11:01pm on Friday night.


Will it have a capsule with all that contributed enclosed in it and the length of the thread, so the aliens can read it?



You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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Many people of my age end up with numerous illnesses and disabilities.  One of mine is Severely Narrowed Tear Ducts, which end up producing excessive fluid in my eyes, making it extremely difficult to identify the keys on my keyboard most of the time, and therefore mistakes are made.  I try to correct mistakes before I post, but sometimes I miss them.  I make no apologies for that.



Many people including young people have disabilities. I have more than a fair share and always say I don't want pity but understanding, which I believe Bear wants here. ( and not in a derogative way )



You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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Another thread that's suddenly taken that Fishy turn into bizarro world! It's always entertaining if you don't take it too seriously. It's the internet in a nutshell...20% solid information or at least intelligent discussion and 80%...err...not!  
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So, any thoughts or wild guesses on signing(s) by Friday evening?

An open question or three  - could Evan Khouri be utilised as a left back or wing back, if no one else is signed for there ?

Doesn't shirk a tackle and likes to go forward.

If Harry Clifton is the current play anywhere go to choice, why not use Khouri back there as a natural left footer if needed?

How far is George Lloyd away from playing again? Would Hurst sign him again ?

His style of harassing is still missing, and an extra few goals wouldn't go amiss !

If not, then who is this window's rabbit out of the hat ?
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Many people including young people have disabilities. I have more than a fair share and always say I don't want pity but understanding, which I believe Bear wants here. ( and not in a derogative way )



The thing is, I wasn't looking for either sympathy or understanding.  All I was doing was explaining to him WHY I made a mistake.

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Khouri - Yeah I reckon he's actually got the attributes to be a decent left-back/wing-back, but I think he's got a good future ahead of him in the middle.  I think we lack a bit of athleticism down the left flank so I wouldn't be opposed to him doing a job there but also getting game time too.  He's at the same age now as Clifton was when he really started to cement a place in the first team.

Lloyd - Last I saw he was awaiting an operation on his ankle (I think).  Can't imagine that's something he'll recover from quickly, certainly not something to merit a move this window for him to sit in the stands until the next one opens.  Cheltenham are yet to score a goal this season so they're definitely going to be looking at bringing in reinforcements up top and/or hope on Lloyd coming back to ease that burden.  By all account he was impressing in pre-season and was looking likely to be in their starting eleven for the season.

Rabbit out the hat - Pretty sure Hurst always seems to like bringing in at least one quite close to the window.  Not sure if that's by design or just the nature of how player availability trickles down as clubs higher up the ladder get themselves sorted or not, maybe a bit of both.  Considering the way this thread has gone this afternoon, we probably need at least 3 signings with a pedigree two levels above ours to redeem ourselves.  
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The thing is, I wasn't looking for either sympathy or understanding.  All I was doing was explaining to him WHY I made a mistake.



Mate, it's an internet forum.  It's people behind a keyboard, it's not really real.  I don't even exist, I was created by ChatGPT 18 months ago and my creator has since forgotten about me.   You don't need to justify anything, nor does anyone to you.  

Lighten up a little, not everything said against you is a slight.  We all make mistakes, no-one really cares.  It was just the irony that you pointing out a mistake contained a mistake itself.  
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Mate, it's an internet forum.  It's people behind a keyboard, it's not really real.  I don't even exist, I was created by ChatGPT 18 months ago and my creator has since forgotten about me.   You don't need to justify anything, nor does anyone to you.  

Lighten up a little, not everything said against you is a slight.  We all make mistakes, no-one really cares.  It was just the irony that you pointing out a mistake contained a mistake itself.  


Maybe he’s got a black fly in his Chardonnay

Or 10000 Midfielders when all you need is a (number) 9


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Will it have a capsule with all that contributed enclosed in it and the length of the thread, so the aliens can read it?



It would be a good way of deterring any aliens looking for intelligent life on this planet.
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Josh Emmanuel still without a club


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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The thing is, I wasn't looking for either sympathy or understanding.  All I was doing was explaining to him WHY I made a mistake.



My posts , which are irrational at best often end up in myself getting hassle . I suffer from severe anxiety which makes me post some doom and gloom and then I read it the next day and think , what a t@at . It’s just my thoughts at the time depending my mood . Internet forums aren’t for the faint hearted at times but the fishy is better than most tbf ☺️
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Josh Emmanuel still without a club


That’s surprised me tbh. Thought he’d easily get a top league 1 side or maybe even a chance in Scotland


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That’s surprised me tbh. Thought he’d easily get a top league 1 side or maybe even a chance in Scotland


There’s obviously something not quite right.

Talented player & appeared to have a great attitude.

Hope all is well his end.


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There’s obviously something not quite right.

Talented player & appeared to have a great attitude.

Hope all is well his end.


Yeah something seams amiss there . He was too good for league 2 but towards the end of last season something changed with him ? Hope he’s ok too
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I imagine it’s more likely a simple case of the player’s own valuation of his capabilities pre-health scare and prospective club’s valuations post. Would still expect to see him rock up at a League One club in the not too distant future, probably on a short-term deal.


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Quoted from acko338
So, any thoughts or wild guesses on signing(s) by Friday evening?

An open question or three  - could Evan Khouri be utilised as a left back or wing back, if no one else is signed for there ?

Doesn't shirk a tackle and likes to go forward.

If Harry Clifton is the current play anywhere go to choice, why not use Khouri back there as a natural left footer if needed?

How far is George Lloyd away from playing again? Would Hurst sign him again ?

His style of harassing is still missing, and an extra few goals wouldn't go amiss !

If not, then who is this window's rabbit out of the hat ?


Think Khouri played left back in a game last season and he was at fault for the oppositions winning goal, but otherwise acquitted himself well.

As for George Lloyd; people keep mentioning him, but that supposes that PH wants him, and Cheltenham are looking to ship him out, neither of which is the case I would think. We have Rose for that role now and he is very similar in style and stature. He's also contracted to us for 2 years, has a lot more experience in League 2, and has promotions on his CV. Lloyd would be a pointless signing for me.

I think we may well bring in another forward though and possibly another defender. I said a few weeks back that I thought we would bring in a couple of loans before the window shut, to much disagreement, but we have one and i would expect at least another.
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This thread needs to be jettisoned into the sun at 11:01pm on Friday night.


Nearly that time already? What a journey, it’s been emotional guys!


All Town aren’t we

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Hursty eluding to big smile on his face in his post match presser, saying he thinks a signing is nearly done.

Unusual for him to be so open… Either a big signing or someone he’s chased for a prolonged period?


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Hursty eluding to big smile on his face in his post match presser, saying he thinks a signing is nearly done.

Unusual for him to be so open… Either a big signing or someone he’s chased for a prolonged period?


I thought that at first but I think he meant he was smiling because the window is almost done.


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Hursty eluding to big smile on his face in his post match presser, saying he thinks a signing is nearly done.

Unusual for him to be so open… Either a big signing or someone he’s chased for a prolonged period?


I thought that at first but I think he meant he was smiling because the window is almost done.


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Hursty eluding to big smile on his face in his post match presser, saying he thinks a signing is nearly done.

Unusual for him to be so open… Either a big signing or someone he’s chased for a prolonged period?


You heard something I didn't. Bit of wishful thinking there.

As for tonight's game, it sounded like another case of not getting up to speed until the second half. This is something that needs to be ironed out, because we won't win many games if we are only playing for half the 90.
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Hursty eluding to big smile on his face in his post match presser, saying he thinks a signing is nearly done.

Unusual for him to be so open… Either a big signing or someone he’s chased for a prolonged period?


For PH to have a big smile when alluding to a signing must mean it’s a full back, thereby releasing Efete to play as the big unit up front that we’ve all been craving for since…since Ron Wigg left…
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Hursty eluding to big smile on his face in his post match presser, saying he thinks a signing is nearly done.

Unusual for him to be so open… Either a big signing or someone he’s chased for a prolonged period?


Didn’t pick up on anything other than the window is nearly done? No mention of a signing nearly done?
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I think he basically said one is nearly done didn't he ?

Just listened back , he says ' I think it is nearly done '
And he's happy.  

I realised what he actually meant is he's happy the window is nearly done , rather than a transfer is - I read it as we had one all but done , but don't think that's the case .

No doubt one or two will come in though - I do think we need a physical player up top ,even if its not a goalscorer ; we might already have 2 good strikers in Pyke & Wilson but I have not seen either sadly so don't know .

Was Pyke good last night ?

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I think he basically said one is nearly done didn't he ?

Just listened back , he says ' I think it is nearly done '
And he's happy.  

I realised what he actually meant is he's happy the window is nearly done , rather than a transfer is - I read it as we had one all but done , but don't think that's the case .

No doubt one or two will come in though - I do think we need a physical player up top ,even if its not a goalscorer ; we might already have 2 good strikers in Pyke & Wilson but I have not seen either sadly so don't know .

Was Pyke good last night ?

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He scored and that's the important bit being in the right place at the right time. For the game as a whole he seemed to move in and out of it, so let hope the goal gives him more confidence for the Gillingham game.



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Frankly he's doing well to be playing a decent level of semi-pro football at the age of 54.


Gotta give ya that one, even i laughed at my own faux pas....think we all know I meant Windsor..
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I thought he looked far better when he got some support from deeper.  It looked to me like Khouri and Clifton pushing on with Hunt sitting deep, Glennon and Gnahoua hugging the touchlines.  Doesn't matter who you've got up there, if they're isolated they'll struggle.  With 90 minutes under his belt, hopefully he'll be that little bit closer to starting with Rose in the league.

Was thinking as I was watching the second half about how we were making inroads from wide areas with two lads getting white on their boots, perhaps that's where Josh Emmanuel would come in useful.   I didn't really get the hype about him last season, when he was on it he looked unplayable but those moments were few and far between.  But the one thing he consistently did was stretch play across the width of the pitch.  Defensively I wasn't that keen on him, not enough to suggest he could play wingback.  But as the winger in a four/five man midfield I think he might be ok.

Not at all suggesting he's someone we're in for, just thinking what we lack really.  Same on the other side. Glennon looked far better when pushed further up and getting to the touchline.  
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Kayode off to Barnsley apparently, £150-200k plus add-ons. I might have to accept defeat on this one.

We go again (in my head).
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Kayode off to Barnsley apparently, £150-200k plus add-ons. I might have to accept defeat on this one.

We go again (in my head).


Seems a lot of money for a lad who's struggled with injuries a bit!
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Gives Barnsley a decent wedge of strikers at their disposal now.  McAtee and Dallas signing this summer with Max Watters making his move permanent to compliment Devante Cole.  Kayode would make it 5 plus there's out of favour Aaron Leya Iseka, who will probably be palmed off somewhere.

Wonder if that frees up Oli Shaw.  Hasn't really had much of a chance at Oakwell since signing last summer from Kilmarnock. .
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Strong rumours going around that Luke Armstrong is going to MK Dons for a price that even Wrexham baulked at. 375k plus add ons potentially taking it up to 500k. Absolutely obscene money for a L2 striker.
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Everyone is always desperate for a striker so prices get stupid.
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Strong rumours going around that Luke Armstrong is going to MK Dons for a price that even Wrexham baulked at. 375k plus add ons potentially taking it up to 500k. Absolutely obscene money for a L2 striker.


Does that  Winkelman guy put quite a bit of cash into MK ? they get smaller crowds than us . Bet it's terrible in that 30k stadium with 5k there - Darlington allover again .
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Does that  Winkelman guy put quite a bit of cash into MK ? they get smaller crowds than us . Bet it's terrible in that 30k stadium with 5k there - Darlington allover again .


With a bit of luck they’ll eventually follow Darlingtons fate
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The football club owes the Stadium MK Group, who just so happen to have Winkleman and his wife on the board, about £15million.

Club makes a loss every year. The Stadium MK Group make a profit.  As long as Winkleman is there, they'll be bankrolled.

For all the money he's chucked at the club in the last 20 years, he probably would have hoped for a better return than a fourth tier side. A better idea might have been to invest a fraction into moving Milton Keynes City FC up from the 9th tier, as they were when they folded upon the theft of the club from Wimbledon.  I would wager that it wouldn't have taken anywhere near the amount he's lost in getting them from 9th to 4th tier.

With a population of approx 250,000 and a good 15 or so miles to the nearest sides of Northampton and Luton, there should have been a really strong foundation to develop a fan base, develop the club and not urine everyone else off the in process.

Alas, he's a twit.
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There is a 28 year old striker at a leading National League Club who has scored 23 goals since dropping down to that level in February last year including 5 in 5 this season .At 6 ft 5 brings something different. Also has a habit of scoring important goals.
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There is a 28 year old striker at a leading National League Club who has scored 23 goals since dropping down to that level in February last year including 5 in 5 this season .At 6 ft 5 brings something different. Also has a habit of scoring important goals.


So why not add his name to the post?

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There is a 28 year old striker at a leading National League Club who has scored 23 goals since dropping down to that level in February last year including 5 in 5 this season .At 6 ft 5 brings something different. Also has a habit of scoring important goals.


I clocked Mani at the top of the National League top scorers chart the other day. He’s done very well ever since joining us 18 months ago, hasn’t he?


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Mani was offered a contract and turned it down.

His choice, not Hursts.

Well covered ground this. Probably mentioned once or twice a month since last summer.
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Well, I’d kinda hoped that Armstrong or Kayode might have been ‘the one’ that he was happy to be patient over.

Shame… 😢
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I think, with 2.5days of the window left, finding “the” one is well gone and we’re looking at “any” one.
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Can’t see us getting a traditional front man now

Names just mentioned well out our reach.
Smith of Salford well above L2 standard but little  Salford find a way of funding him…..
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Mani was offered a contract and turned it down.

His choice, not Hursts.

Well covered ground this. Probably mentioned once or twice a month since last summer.


If strikers are so hard to findand you want to keep one but they prefer to drop down a level and sign for the mighty Halifax Town are we not allowed to wonder why?
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If strikers are so hard to findand you want to keep one but they prefer to drop down a level and sign for the mighty Halifax Town are we not allowed to wonder why?


I’d assume he wanted to play more than we could offer him? He wasn’t starting for us in the National League so he wouldn’t be first choice in the League above.


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If strikers are so hard to findand you want to keep one but they prefer to drop down a level and sign for the mighty Halifax Town are we not allowed to wonder why?


Because he couldn’t guarantee him a start every week.

Well covered ground this. Probably mentioned once or twice a month since last summer.
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Because he couldn’t guarantee him a start every week.

Well covered ground this. Probably mentioned once or twice a month since last summer.


I agree offering someone a contract but saying your not going to get play them isn’t a great line.
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I agree offering someone a contract but saying your not going to get play them isn’t a great line.


I think Hurst's people management is probably a little more subtle and nuanced than that. And it's hardly an alien concept in football that you're not guaranteed a start - managers say that about multi million pound signings, let alone blokes on frees in L2!


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I agree offering someone a contract but saying your not going to get play them isn’t a great line.


It is if you are part of a squad, and Hurst does say it's a squad team he's building.



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I agree offering someone a contract but saying your not going to get play them isn’t a great line.


It wasn't like that according to PH.  Mani wanted to be a guaranteed starter, and PH told him he couldn't promise him that, which is fair enough to my mind.
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I don't want fan these flames but since he joined us he's scored 25 goals in 60 appearances, easily the best period in his career (but all in the National League).


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I love Mani for the role he played in our promotion and with hindsight we would have done a lot better by holding onto him for at least last season.

But considering we had a few players who struggled to adjust to the step-up to League Two from the Conference, what makes anyone think Mani would have gone against that grain?  

Great that he's started to find his feet and be settled at a level, but every time he's gone above the fifth tier he's struggled to make an impression.  The difference in quality is huge between the two levels.  

As with Bogle, Amond and no doubt countless other former strikers that we hanker for every four months, can we put the Mani one to bed and just enjoy the memories of him chucking himself at the ball on an early summer evening in Nottingham and then repeating his antics a few days later in North Wales?
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As with Bogle, Amond and no doubt countless other former strikers that we hanker for every four months, can we put the Mani one to bed and just enjoy the memories of him chucking himself at the ball on an early summer evening in Nottingham and then repeating his antics a few days later in North Wales?[/quote]

Be much easier to move on if you have found an adequate replacement, which we haven’t, and it just so happens he pretty much fits the criteria most fans want as an option up front. Personally thought he had a pretty decent all round game and add his nuisance value and goals scored since he left and it’s disappointing that we weren’t able, or willing, to keep him whatever the reasons for his departure.
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Yeah, I get it...we're desperate for something.  It's frustrating as hell that we've not progressed in this area and not replaced Ryan Taylor 15 months on from when we should have done really.  It also feels like we've just gone round in circles a bit by bringing in Rose to do a job that he's not best suited to, feels very McAtee like from last season.  

Pretty sure when we signed him originally the opinion was that he was excrement, based on the usual trawl of his Wikipedia goals per games return.  Even with his recent form at Halifax and now Hartlepool, without our prior knowledge of him from his spell. I reckon if he was a deadline day deal it would be one of those signings that people moaned about as poor.

I think Hurst's reputation for bringing in strikers seems to be heavily influenced by a bit of recency bias, especially over the last 12 months or so.  Even in that time he managed to bring in George Lloyd and Danny Rose.  Prior to that he's more often than not managed to identify and bring in strikers how benefited us as we needed them, including Mani.
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Quoted from IlkleyMariner
Can’t see us getting a traditional front man now

Names just mentioned well out our reach.
Smith of Salford well above L2 standard but little  Salford find a way of funding him…..


Might be something to do with the billionaire funding them well above their realistic means.
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The football club owes the Stadium MK Group, who just so happen to have Winkleman and his wife on the board, about £15million.

Club makes a loss every year. The Stadium MK Group make a profit.  As long as Winkleman is there, they'll be bankrolled.

For all the money he's chucked at the club in the last 20 years, he probably would have hoped for a better return than a fourth tier side. A better idea might have been to invest a fraction into moving Milton Keynes City FC up from the 9th tier, as they were when they folded upon the theft of the club from Wimbledon.  I would wager that it wouldn't have taken anywhere near the amount he's lost in getting them from 9th to 4th tier.

With a population of approx 250,000 and a good 15 or so miles to the nearest sides of Northampton and Luton, there should have been a really strong foundation to develop a fan base, develop the club and not urine everyone else off the in process.

Alas, he's a twit.


Stadium MK and the attached Arena, Hotel, bars, restaurants and retail land have generated far more money for Winkleman and his wife than the amount they bankroll MK Dons with.
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Stadium MK and the attached Arena, Hotel, bars, restaurants and retail land have generated far more money for Winkleman and his wife than the amount they bankroll MK Dons with.


I'm going to go in november when we play them , will probably stay over if there are bars and hotels on site .
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Because he couldn’t guarantee him a start every week.

Well covered ground this. Probably mentioned once or twice a month since last summer.


In hindsight, he should have stopped. Given the injuries to Taylor and McAtee right throughout the season, he'd probably have started 40 games and ended up as top scorer.


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I'm going to go in november when we play them , will probably stay over if there are bars and hotels on site .


The hotel is attached to the ground, it's a Double Tree. 15 metres walk to Wagamama, a half decent Turkish place, Nando's, TGI Fridays and a couple of Italians. There isn't a bar/pub as such but you'll get a drink in any of those. I assume the hotel has a bar but I've never been in it.
And you're 15 mins away from central MK in a taxi (if that) and 5 from Bletchley, but I wouldn't recommend Bletchley.


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The hotel is attached to the ground, it's a Double Tree. 15 metres walk to Wagamama, a half decent Turkish place, Nando's, TGI Fridays and a couple of Italians. There isn't a bar/pub as such but you'll get a drink in any of those. I assume the hotel has a bar but I've never been in it.
And you're 15 mins away from central MK in a taxi (if that) and 5 from Bletchley, but I wouldn't recommend Bletchley.


Thanks mate . I drive past / around it all the time but never ventured into Milton Keynes - will be interesting how many we take there ; it's on a Tuesday night .
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I really wouldn't recommend a night out in Milton Keynes. I've been once and it's a flipping weird place.
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Wrong Newport striker!


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I really wouldn't recommend a night out in Milton Keynes. I've been once and it's a flipping weird place.


I spent a lot of time there a few years back on business during the spectacularly failed conversion of the Homebase chain into “Bunnings” by a bunch of clueless Aussies who failed to understand the dynamics and weather patterns of the Northern hemisphere. “Whadda ya mean no one buys barbecues at Christmas in the UK, ya pommie bástard? We sell heaps back home in Oz, so we’ll flamin’ well do it here too, cúnt”.

That’s more or less a verbatim conversation I had with one of the bolshie Aussie bigwigs in the Homebase / Bunnings boardroom, which looked out onto the most soulless branch of Wetherspoons I’ve ever visited, but couldn’t wait to get back to that particular afternoon. Some weeks later,  it would be my fault that they had failed to sell 99.9% of their stock of Weber barbecues come the New Year.

I would find myself spending 2 or 3 nights a week at the Jury’s Inn MK for a period of 3 or 4 months having nonsense arguments like this, and it was made all the more depressing by the fact that the town centre has absolutely nothing going for it, other than their unique system of underpasses which are handy by day but a bit stabby / rapey at night. Everything is white plastic and glass, with the all the architectural flair of a chicken nugget. You like your pubs to look like a Regus office? Milton Keynes is the place for you.

It was those visits though that helped me understand the mentality of an MK Dons fan a little better; something I’d always struggled to wrap my head around. To live in Milton Keynes, you must have no regard whatsoever for things like history, provenance, soul or self-respect. Once you understand that, you begin to understand how BFS can attract 5,000 odd plastic people to their fine but fundamentally tainted stadium.

Strange, strange place. Intolerable football club.


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Decent summary Poojah. A mate of mine organised a lads meet up there on a Saturday night as he took ' find somewhere in the middle of us all' a bit too literally. I parked at a Premier Inn on something like 'Tramadol Boulevard' only to be told that I was at the wrong one and the one I'd booked was one of four on that road and still more than two miles away.

Walking round on the Saturday night felt like being in a zombie apocalypse movie. Rows and rows of empty office blocks and deserted car parks. You mention a town centre but I'm not sure we ever found it.........we ended up in a Wetherspoon's  that filled up with ice hockey fans once the local game had finished. Made The Imp look like a mensa members club once they came in with their furrowed brows and XXXXL MK Zombies replica jersey's.
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You need a sat nav to get around Milton Keynes for sure, as every dual carriageway and roundabout looks identical.
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I spent a lot of time there a few years back on business during the spectacularly failed conversion of the Homebase chain into “Bunnings” by a bunch of clueless Aussies who failed to understand the dynamics and weather patterns of the Northern hemisphere. “Whadda ya mean no one buys barbecues at Christmas in the UK, ya pommie bástard? We sell heaps back home in Oz, so we’ll flamin’ well do it here too, cúnt”.

That’s more or less a verbatim conversation I had with one of the bolshie Aussie bigwigs in the Homebase / Bunnings boardroom, which looked out onto the most soulless branch of Wetherspoons I’ve ever visited, but couldn’t wait to get back to that particular afternoon. Some weeks later,  it would be my fault that they had failed to sell 99.9% of their stock of Weber barbecues come the New Year.



I would find myself spending 2 or 3 nights a week at the Jury’s Inn MK for a period of 3 or 4 months having nonsense arguments like this, and it was made all the more depressing by the fact that the town centre has absolutely nothing going for it, other than their unique system of underpasses which are handy by day but a bit stabby / rapey at night. Everything is white plastic and glass, with the all the architectural flair of a chicken nugget. You like your pubs to look like a Regus office? Milton Keynes is the place for you.

It was those visits though that helped me understand the mentality of an MK Dons fan a little better; something I’d always struggled to wrap my head around. To live in Milton Keynes, you must have no regard whatsoever for things like history, provenance, soul or self-respect. Once you understand that, you begin to understand how BFS can attract 5,000 odd plastic people to their fine but fundamentally tainted stadium.

Strange, strange place. Intolerable football club.



I regularly worked in Milton Keynes, but thankfully I was able to stay at hotels in Woburn and Buckingham. Two lovely places to get sanctuary from soulless Milton Keynes. I met more Spurs fans than Milton Keynes fans, and you can’t blame them.
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You need a sat nav to get around Milton Keynes for sure, as every dual carriageway and roundabout looks identical.


130 in total of those bloody roundabouts In Milton Keynes, one ground I have never been too nor will I ever go to it, even to see the mighty Mariners.
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If I remember correctly the road grid system is actually very simple. V for vertical and H for horizontal followed by a number eg V1 or H5. Which also describes the roundabouts.

Still not an engaging place and soulless
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Always good to see some coverage about a potential signing, even finding clips is usually a struggle. No idea how he got on at Newport last year but seems to be a decent finisher off both feet -

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CPAqq8GnNfF/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Last years but, still would say he’s a bit about him



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If I remember correctly the road grid system is actually very simple. V for vertical and H for horizontal followed by a number eg V1 or H5. Which also describes the roundabouts.

Still not an engaging place and soulless


You are right about V meaning Vertical and H Horizontal. However as it’s a grid system the first vertical road is V1 the second V2 and so on. The same with the H roads too and therefore the numbers have nothing to do with the roundabouts of which there are hundreds!!

My god please red X me I should be banned from this forum for having that sort of knowledge!!! 😁😁😁

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Have we got room in the squad for a roundabout?

H or V suit us best?
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You are right about V meaning Vertical and H Horizontal. However as it’s a grid system the first vertical road is V1 the second V2 and so on. The same with the H roads too and therefore the numbers have nothing to do with the roundabouts of which there are hundreds!!

My god please red X me I should be banned from this forum for having that sort of knowledge!!! 😁😁😁



I got really confused to see traffic lights near the main church, or is it a cathedral?
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Surrey talking of a potential signing from Man United and everyone ignores it to talk about how excrement Milton Keynes is 😂😂😂
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Always good to see some coverage about a potential signing, even finding clips is usually a struggle. No idea how he got on at Newport last year but seems to be a decent finisher off both feet -

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CPAqq8GnNfF/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


Was limited to quite a lot of sub appearances at Newport I believe, but their fans seem to speak quite highly of him from when he did play.
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I spent a lot of time there a few years back on business during the spectacularly failed conversion of the Homebase chain into “Bunnings” by a bunch of clueless Aussies who failed to understand the dynamics and weather patterns of the Northern hemisphere. “Whadda ya mean no one buys barbecues at Christmas in the UK, ya pommie bástard? We sell heaps back home in Oz, so we’ll flamin’ well do it here too, cúnt”.

That’s more or less a verbatim conversation I had with one of the bolshie Aussie bigwigs in the Homebase / Bunnings boardroom, which looked out onto the most soulless branch of Wetherspoons I’ve ever visited, but couldn’t wait to get back to that particular afternoon. Some weeks later,  it would be my fault that they had failed to sell 99.9% of their stock of Weber barbecues come the New Year.

I would find myself spending 2 or 3 nights a week at the Jury’s Inn MK for a period of 3 or 4 months having nonsense arguments like this, and it was made all the more depressing by the fact that the town centre has absolutely nothing going for it, other than their unique system of underpasses which are handy by day but a bit stabby / rapey at night. Everything is white plastic and glass, with the all the architectural flair of a chicken nugget. You like your pubs to look like a Regus office? Milton Keynes is the place for you.

It was those visits though that helped me understand the mentality of an MK Dons fan a little better; something I’d always struggled to wrap my head around. To live in Milton Keynes, you must have no regard whatsoever for things like history, provenance, soul or self-respect. Once you understand that, you begin to understand how BFS can attract 5,000 odd plastic people to their fine but fundamentally tainted stadium.

Strange, strange place. Intolerable football club.


Aussies were just ahead of their time what with global warning and alll.
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Was on a train earlier and this lad and mum got on at Donny, they’d just been to see the GTFC set up with a view to joining as a youth. Saying lots of really good things about it. No idea who he was but he was massive.


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Aussies were just ahead of their time what with global warning and alll.


A billion quid ahead of their time. They bought Homebase for £350m, spunked another £700m trying to shape it in the image of their Aussie business and then, after making hilarious cóck up after hilarious cóck up, decided to cut their losses and sold it less than 2 years later for the princely sum of a quid.

It was genuinely fascinating being a fly on the wall as they rapidly burned their investment to the ground - some of it you just couldn’t write. I used to describe it as the worst commercial deal ever done, until I remembered that we paid £75k for Serge Makofo.


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A billion quid ahead of their time. They bought Homebase for £350m, spunked another £700m trying to shape it in the image of their Aussie business and then, after making hilarious cóck up after hilarious cóck up, decided to cut their losses and sold it less than 2 years later it for the princely sum of a quid.

It was genuinely fascinating being a fly on the wall as they rapidly burned their investment to the ground - some of it you just couldn’t write. I used to describe it as the worst commercial deal ever done, until I remembered that we paid £75k for Serge Makofo.


I wonder if they Aussies rang up to enquire about taking over B&Q but got the wrong name like Town did 🤔
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A billion quid ahead of their time. They bought Homebase for £350m, spunked another £700m trying to shape it in the image of their Aussie business and then, after making hilarious cóck up after hilarious cóck up, decided to cut their losses and sold it less than 2 years later it for the princely sum of a quid.

It was genuinely fascinating being a fly on the wall as they rapidly burned their investment to the ground - some of it you just couldn’t write. I used to describe it as the worst commercial deal ever done, until I remembered that we paid £75k for Serge Makofo.


It was pointed out to me the other day that Serge is still earning a living from the game at the age of 36.
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I spent a lot of time there a few years back on business during the spectacularly failed conversion of the Homebase chain into “Bunnings” by a bunch of clueless Aussies who failed to understand the dynamics and weather patterns of the Northern hemisphere. “Whadda ya mean no one buys barbecues at Christmas in the UK, ya pommie bástard? We sell heaps back home in Oz, so we’ll flamin’ well do it here too, cúnt”.

That’s more or less a verbatim conversation I had with one of the bolshie Aussie bigwigs in the Homebase / Bunnings boardroom, which looked out onto the most soulless branch of Wetherspoons I’ve ever visited, but couldn’t wait to get back to that particular afternoon. Some weeks later,  it would be my fault that they had failed to sell 99.9% of their stock of Weber barbecues come the New Year.

I would find myself spending 2 or 3 nights a week at the Jury’s Inn MK for a period of 3 or 4 months having nonsense arguments like this, and it was made all the more depressing by the fact that the town centre has absolutely nothing going for it, other than their unique system of underpasses which are handy by day but a bit stabby / rapey at night. Everything is white plastic and glass, with the all the architectural flair of a chicken nugget. You like your pubs to look like a Regus office? Milton Keynes is the place for you.

It was those visits though that helped me understand the mentality of an MK Dons fan a little better; something I’d always struggled to wrap my head around. To live in Milton Keynes, you must have no regard whatsoever for things like history, provenance, soul or self-respect. Once you understand that, you begin to understand how BFS can attract 5,000 odd plastic people to their fine but fundamentally tainted stadium.

Strange, strange place. Intolerable football club.

Been some murmurings of late that Poojah might have lost it but this post is gold. Hopefully this is just a preview of an upcoming memoir of your time in Milton Keynes?
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Been some murmurings of late that Poojah might have lost it but this post is gold. Hopefully this is just a preview of an upcoming memoir of your time in Milton Keynes?


Don’t believe everything you read…

I don’t really have any other Milton Keynes anecdotes to be fair, other than the time I played the biscuit game with a tramp under one of those underpasses. I don’t want to say I lost, but I didn’t win…


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If it helps add to the conversation, my mate excrement himself on a night out in Milton Keynes. It was all made worse by the fact we had no choice but to share a 40 min car journey home with him.

I want to blame Milton Keynes for this but it feels harsh, it’s a weird place all the same though.
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If it helps add to the conversation, my mate excrement himself on a night out in Milton Keynes. It was all made worse by the fact we had no choice but to share a 40 min car journey home with him.

I want to blame Milton Keynes for this but it feels harsh, it’s a weird place all the same though.


I don’t actually think it adds to the conversation and it might have been more acceptable had it not been shared at breakfast time.
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Told we are one of two clubs who are trying to sign Charlie McNeill on loan from Man United. Was on loan at Newport last season.


I’ve heard the same, not usually one to pop up with transfer news.

But Charlie is the player Hurst was waiting for the green light on.

Hopefully it gets done.
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Learnt a long time ago not to trust a word PH Says, sure he said week or 2 back we were not looking at bringing in another striker! Hopefully this one comes off as he clearly knows where the back of the net is
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Learnt a long time ago not to trust a word PH Says, sure he said week or 2 back we were not looking at bringing in another striker! Hopefully this one comes off as he clearly knows where the back of the net is


600 goals for Man City’s academy before Man Yoo paid £750k for him, apparently. Would appear to have something about him.




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Just watched a couple of videos of him on youtube and he looks like he links the play really nicely. Definitely looks like he'd give us more creativity than we have currently.
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Learnt a long time ago not to trust a word PH Says, sure he said week or 2 back we were not looking at bringing in another striker! Hopefully this one comes off as he clearly knows where the back of the net is


On injuries and transfers he's moved from indulging in evasion and obfuscation to just downright mistruths. You have to wonder why JT and Matt Dean even bother to ask questions about the window as he doesn't say anything that means we're any wiser. However, he does speak honestly regarding the games he's reacting to and talking about his players.


I've wasted my life in black and white, a pathetic act for a worthless cause
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600 goals for Man City’s academy before Man Yoo paid £750k for him, apparently. Would appear to have something about him.




That's an awful lot of goals, do you think someone may have doctored his Wiki.

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That's an awful lot of goals, do you think someone may have doctored his Wiki.



Yoof-level, innit

https://www.manchestereveningn.....ill-profile-24955913


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That is a massive achievement, he can pick a pass too.  And 67,000 for the Youth Cup Final, wow!  He also looked quite comfortable playing for Newport.  IF we are in for him, I wonder who the other team might be?
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Utd unofficial Twitter accounts saying he’s off to Stevenage pending a medical.
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Utd unofficial Twitter accounts saying he’s off to Stevenage pending a medical.


Anyone but them feckers.

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Maybe he's a fan of big Steve
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Been told United would rather he challenge himself higher up the pyramid, they rate him very highly and want to give him the best chance at developing.

Shows we are chasing good young players, just unfortunately haven’t been able to get the player this time.
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Stevenage should have been relegated to non league in the covid season, but escaped by the skin of their teeth.

Now they are in League 1 with an odious manager and I hate them even more.
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Deadline day tommorrow and no posts on here since lunchtime. Can’t somebody at least make something up.
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Deadline day tommorrow and no posts on here since lunchtime. Can’t somebody at least make something up.


Danny Welbeck and Jesse Lingard coming in on loan. That's what Stuart Watkiss told JT after Tuesday night anyway.


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Danny Welbeck and Jesse Lingard coming in on loan. That's what Stuart Watkiss told JT after Tuesday night anyway.


Lingard doesn’t track back and Welbeck can’t play with his back to goal so we are not interested.
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Deadline day tommorrow and no posts on here since lunchtime. Can’t somebody at least make something up.

There is a boring 5 page splinter thread about strikers. This thread is now for talking about what everyone has got up to when they visited Milton Keynes.
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Deadline day tommorrow and no posts on here since lunchtime. Can’t somebody at least make something up.


I'm ony posting this in the hope that it will waste the same people's time who have wasted my time by posting fcking non rumour/transfer thread posts on here!

When I've seen new posts highlighted I've got a semi on thinking we might have signed someone so I've quickly pulled myself off on the M6 only to find out it's a fcking post about Harry fckin Clifton, Mk fcking Dons or vaginal fckin discharge! Tossers!
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Not current Town news, but Dean Henderson signs for Crystal Palace for £20m. Does that make him the most expensive player to have played for Town?


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I'm going to go in november when we play them , will probably stay over if there are bars and hotels on site .


do yourself a favour - airbnb in North Marston, with The Pilgrim serving top food, beer n wine as befits a Micehlin rated boozer! 20 minutes to the Franchisescum ground
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I'm ony posting this in the hope that it will waste the same people's time who have wasted my time by posting fcking non rumour/transfer thread posts on here!

When I've seen new posts highlighted I've got a semi on thinking we might have signed someone so I've quickly pulled myself off on the M6 only to find out it's a fcking post about Harry fckin Clifton, Mk fcking Dons or vaginal fckin discharge! Tossers!


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Who is Vaginal Discharge? Is he the Greek striker at Accrington?

Liverpool's centre half?


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Could change but think it’s unlikely we’ll see a striker come in now. Deal is done for another midfielder and possibly might get a full back in but that’s not straight forward.
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Could change but think it’s unlikely we’ll see a striker come in now. Deal is done for another midfielder and possibly might get a full back in but that’s not straight forward.


Cue social media meltdown tomorrow night if this is the case.

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Could change but think it’s unlikely we’ll see a striker come in now. Deal is done for another midfielder and possibly might get a full back in but that’s not straight forward.


Loans or permanent do you know?
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Cue social media meltdown tomorrow night if this is the case.



It’s not that the club don’t want a striker, but after a couple of setbacks I think it’s unlikely at this stage. The situation up top isn’t desperate and hurst isn’t prepared to just get one in for the sake of numbers.
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Loans or permanent do you know?


Loans
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Who is Vaginal Discharge? Is he the Greek striker at Accrington?

Liverpool's centre half?


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Is surrey97 ever right looking at his history he don’t seem in the know!!
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Is surrey97 ever right looking at his history he don’t seem in the know!!


Not been my best window I’ll admit, wouldn’t say I’m itk I just say what I get told by others. Some of its wrong and sometimes it’s been right
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Loans or permanent do you know?


He has no idea. Its just a guess. I imagine he trawls football social media more than the average poster.
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Now, I accept that I am little more than a footballing luddite, but it does strike me as a bit of a risk to be ending the window, if indeed we do, without a single forward taller than 5ft 11”, at this level of all levels.

Yeah, I get we don’t want to be just lumping it forward, and I get that Danny Rose has a good leap on him, but it’s nevertheless a big ask to expect him to be winning headers time after time against the 6ft 4”+ centre halves we routinely come up against.

We seemed to struggle against big sides last season, Sutton away the standout exception, and struggled also pre-Christmas after Ryan Taylor, for all his shortcomings, got injured.

Hurst seems relaxed about not having a big man up top, and who am I not to trust him on it? It just seems, on a very basic level, a fairly obvious gap missing from the squad, to me. I can’t imagine there are too many sides in this league in the same position.


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It’s not that the club don’t want a striker, but after a couple of setbacks I think it’s unlikely at this stage. The situation up top isn’t desperate and hurst isn’t prepared to just get one in for the sake of numbers.

Not desperate but potentially could be, a lot riding on the quality of Pyke and Wilson. I'm assuming the United lad you mentioned yesterday is one of the setbacks you've mentioned? I'm pretty zen about it all to be honest, it's been a decent window and we've been through the striker stuff every single window for God knows how long now, I'm over expending any negative energy on it.
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I’m relying on perpetual disappointment

Might get someone from Barnsley or Rotherham someone who we have never heard of or is crocked

I’m not being critical but it is what it is.

What really pisses me off is the endless so called updates from sky about someone we have also never heard of but is a multimillionaire and not English. I’m not being racist at all but sky are increasingly becoming so nauseous that I’m thinking of going to GB news….and definitely not BBC who are usually two days off the pace.
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Is the situation not desperate up top? We’re struggling playing with just one because we haven’t got the right players or system around them. So it seems likely that we will need to try 2 at some point which literally leaves us only a single suspension or injury away from having no back up striker. I’m not accepting the idea that Vernam, Gnahoua or Eisa could play there because two of them aren’t pulling up trees in their strongest positions and the other looked lost in the middle against Notts.

Of the strikers we do have one is coming back from injury and missed a decent chunk of pre-season because of it and one of them was deployed by their last club as a wing back. It’s hardly an embarrassment of riches is it? it’s incredibly frustrating that we had a significantly better strike force when we won the play off final, in terms of both quality and quantity, than we do now. We’ve had three transfer windows, record attendances and season tickets and an unprecedented FA Cup run. Why are our strikers worse than 15 months ago?!
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Have to admit that the window has turned out to be a bit underwhelming. We’ve signed decent enough players but it seems we haven’t worked out how to get the best out of them and now seem to be picking over the leftovers.

Recruiting decent players is one thing, moulding them into a winning team is another.
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So it's looking like a couple of squad fillers to boost numbers rather than proven players .

Taking it that Newcastle lad on loan deal  is dead in the tyne ?  

The Hull lad ?

Worried about the options up top , Rose get's injured and we are in one hell of a mess ; suprised Hurst has left himself so exposed as he normally has 3 or 4 options .

We are an  injury away from  having 1 fit striker who has played the last 2 seasons as a rb /rwb  .
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What I think is particularly frustrating is that we've let decent forward players, like Orsi and Mani, go in recent years. Would they be pulling up any trees, banging in twenty goals a season, at this level? Highly unlikely. But as Paul often says himself, it's a squad game, and having players like those two as options, whether that's to come off the bench, to fill in when someone's injured or suspended, or to actually develop and challenge for a starting spot, can't hurt if we're struggling to find striking options. I would understand if we had all the strikers through the door - then fair enough, maybe there's not space for players like Orsi. But why not at least keep them around until we've got those places filled with better options?
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Correction.

Social media meltdown seems to have commenced already.

And those that are dissing Surrey and his info, they clearly have short memories.
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Does make me laugh when people claim they know what we’re getting or not! I bet Doigy doesn’t even know   I’m sure PH will be working on things up until the deadline whether he likes it or not




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Now, I accept that I am little more than a footballing luddite, but it does strike me as a bit of a risk to be ending the window, if indeed we do, without a single forward taller than 5ft 11”, at this level of all levels.

Yeah, I get we don’t want to be just lumping it forward, and I get that Danny Rose has a good leap on him, but it’s nevertheless a big ask to expect him to be winning headers time after time against the 6ft 4”+ centre halves we routinely come up against.

We seemed to struggle against big sides last season, Sutton away the standout exception, and struggled also pre-Christmas after Ryan Taylor, for all his shortcomings, got injured.

Hurst seems relaxed about not having a big man up top, and who am I not to trust him on it? It just seems, on a very basic level, a fairly obvious gap missing from the squad, to me. I can’t imagine there are too many sides in this league in the same position.


It’s not for a lack of trying, aswell as McNeill the club was looking at Ryan Loft but that was always unlikely and he’s expected to move to Port Vale. Tom Hopper was someone else mentioned a few weeks ago but ColU would rather move him on permanently and wanted a fee.
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Quoted from Surrey97

Tom Hopper was someone else mentioned a few weeks ago but ColU would rather move him on permanently and wanted a fee.


Amazes me sometimes, players turn you down and go to the wrong club for a few extra quid - and it’s doesn’t work out. How often we see that?

Re the window - let’s see what tomorrow brings. We know by now things change and move as deadline day is crazy at our level, someone suddenly becomes available higher up and it causes a chain reaction and someone you wanted in the summer is then available. Fingers crossed for a good day tomorrow!


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I hope we do sign a striker, I appreciate everybody wants a striker but we do really need another option up there to complement what we already have there, and if O'Neil was the player Hurst was awaiting the green light on then that would indicate Hurst knows that and surely Hurst would have alternatives lined up in the event the O'Neill move fell through? Obviously it's alright having alternatives lined up but it's about these alternatives wanting to come
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I’ve really liked most of our business this summer but let’s be real, we shouldn’t be having this striker debate on deadline day yet again.

If the plan was to go 1 up top then it was a bad one based on our performances going forward this season, and if the plan was indeed to go 2 up top then only having 3 strikers was also a bad idea. Either way, yet again, it doesn’t look great.
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Amazes me sometimes, players turn you down and go to the wrong club for a few extra quid - and it’s doesn’t work out. How often we see that?

Re the window - let’s see what tomorrow brings. We know by now things change and move as deadline day is crazy at our level, someone suddenly becomes available higher up and it causes a chain reaction and someone you wanted in the summer is then available. Fingers crossed for a good day tomorrow!

I agree with that, situations can change. Fingers crossed.
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Now, I accept that I am little more than a footballing luddite, but it does strike me as a bit of a risk to be ending the window, if indeed we do, without a single forward taller than 5ft 11”, at this level of all levels.

Yeah, I get we don’t want to be just lumping it forward, and I get that Danny Rose has a good leap on him, but it’s nevertheless a big ask to expect him to be winning headers time after time against the 6ft 4”+ centre halves we routinely come up against.

We seemed to struggle against big sides last season, Sutton away the standout exception, and struggled also pre-Christmas after Ryan Taylor, for all his shortcomings, got injured.

Hurst seems relaxed about not having a big man up top, and who am I not to trust him on it? It just seems, on a very basic level, a fairly obvious gap missing from the squad, to me. I can’t imagine there are too many sides in this league in the same position.


What happens when Rose gets rust , black spot or mildew.as they always do. Whose going to win the headers or play the hold up role then.
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Is surrey97 ever right looking at his history he don’t seem in the know!!


Obviously you are new here.

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What happens when Rose gets rust , black spot or mildew.as they always do. Whose going to win the headers or play the hold up role then.


Just use a Rose spray and hopefully, the defenders will be killed off.



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I do understand we can't just go out and get a ready made strikers , but we would have had ample opportunity in the summer to get  1 or 2 more decent ones  - I get that we can't compete with half of league 2 financially but surely we can with the bottom half who all seemingly have a wider range of forwards than us - I would take Harrogates frontline for example , or even Barrows over ours .

I do think we have improved and kudos to the club for that but don't seem to have added the required quality upfront  to compete at the top end and fear come January we will be sitting 12th having exactly the same conversation on here  - genuinely hope I'm wrong .
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Knowing PH, he’s probably throwing everyone off the scent! Sure something will come through but……It has to be right for the Club!

Be patient, you just never know!
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Whilst understanding and to a large degree agreeing with a lot of the frustration, I do think there's a danger of over-reaction here.

Yes I completely get that we shouldn't really be looking at going up to January with 3 strikers in the building, especially with a desire to play with two up top.  But I guess Hurst is probably thinking that he won't always go with two up front, if he brought a fourth choice established striker in that's a potential waste of his budget on someone he would use sparingly in a two up top system and not even make the bench when he reverts to a lone striker.

It's far from ideal and very unfortunate that of the 3 strikers he's brought in, 2 got injured in pre-season and we've seen very little of since.  For all the arguments that Pyke played wing-back at Shrewsbury, Hurst has brought him in as a striker. It seems a bit of a mute point to argue that we've got 2 strikers and a lad who played in a different position last season, he's here as a striker.   Had Pyke and Wilson not picked up injuries in the summer and we had seen more of them, the situation would be very different I think.  

I'm with the posters who mention Orsi as someone who we might have been better holding onto.  Even more so than last season I think he would have looked pretty effective in a pairing with Rose. For whatever reason though Hurst just didn't want him, it felt like last season it didn't matter what he did he would never get a fair crack of the whip.  That's what Hurst gets paid for, it's why he's a football manager and we're not.   It's easy to criticise but I think the part of this continuous development of the squad we probably haven't got right is that we manage to hold the ground prior to seeking an upgrade.  Football transfers clearly aren't that simple but be it Mani or Orsi, we had them (or the option to keep them) but let them go before seeming to upgrade on them.  To argue against myself a bit there, we don't know if we've upgraded on Orsi or not yet because we've not seen Pyke or Wilson enough.

I don't think it's panic stations.  Pyke managed the full game on Tuesday and I thought he grew into it.   You've got to hope that he's now very close to starting a league game.  I'm not sure what the situation is with Wilson (last I heard was he and Khan were targeting the Walsall game, which they both missed and failed to make the squad for the game on Tuesday).  That still leaves us a little bit light for my liking though if I'm totally honest.  It's uncomfortable rather than extreme worry.  I don't think we absolutely need to go with two up top, I think with one up top we can function but do need to adjust how we set the midfield up with higher press to support Rose.  

Ideally there's one coming in today. I trust Surrey on his intel and it's disappointing that he's told a striker is looking unlikely.  But deadline day is always manic.  Right up to the wire there'll be movement going on.  There's so many moving parts in any transfer deal, clubs won't let players go out without someone else coming in.  It needs the likes of Charlie McNeill to move to get things moving.  He isn't in the plans at Man Utd so they can let him go without it impacting on their plans.  Him going to Stevenage might allow Steve Evans to shift someone else out to, which might free up another player to come here.   Time will tell.  I'll be disappointed if we don't bring a striker in but it's not curtains for the season if we don't.
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Tyreis Shade from Swindon is the Midfielder we've enquired about- he's a winger
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That's an interesting one.

Would take us to five wingers.  Four of which (if we're including Shade) have arrived in the last 3 months.  

Started the season as a regular for Swindon last season but gradually got less and less game time.  Did come off the bench in the forgettable 5-0 thumping at their place, set up the fourth goal after going past Andy Smith like he wasn't there. (About 1:30 in).

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Quoted from diehardmariner
That's an interesting one.

Would take us to five wingers.  Four of which (if we're including Shade) have arrived in the last 3 months.  

Started the season as a regular for Swindon last season but gradually got less and less game time.  Did come off the bench in the forgettable 5-0 thumping at their place, set up the fourth goal after going past Andy Smith like he wasn't there. (About 1:30 in).


Don’t think I can bring myself to watch those highlights again….
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Good to see 80s Glory is back!
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Shade scored a goal every 439 mins last season which isn't too bad for a winger coming off the bench, he also scored last weekend for Swindon when they put 6 past  Crawley
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Quoted from diehardmariner
That's an interesting one.

Would take us to five wingers.  Four of which (if we're including Shade) have arrived in the last 3 months.

Started the season as a regular for Swindon last season but gradually got less and less game time.  Did come off the bench in the forgettable 5-0 thumping at their place, set up the fourth goal after going past Andy Smith like he wasn't there. (About 1:30 in).



Would suggest there's absolutely no plans to go to wing backs at any stage.
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Would suggest there's absolutely no plans to go to wing backs at any stage.


I do believe Shade played as a left wing back quite a bit last season so could bring some versatility if it’s true.
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I do believe Shade played as a left wing back quite a bit last season so could bring some versatility if it’s true.


Then I stand corrected!
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Just sign a flipping striker!!!

Forest must have about 20 spare god knows how many at Ctiy and Chelsea, but ffs we need one, not another midfielder.


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I suspect we'll have to go for young, inexperienced loanees again. Hopefully better than Simmonds


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With regards wingbacks, I do wonder if our squad would be better suited to a 3-4-3 style wingback system than a traditional 3-5-2.

We've got the players capable of playing 3 at the back.  I think we've got wide players who could do the dogged work in a wingback role but perhaps lack the quality to whip consistent balls into the box and then we've got high attacking winger types who want to cut in a bit more than actually hug the line (which is more of a reflection of the modern trend than individuals).

Just chucking names down here but sort of like:

                           Keeper
          Mullarkey Rodgers Maher
         Efete Conteh Clifton Glennon
                 Vernam Rose Eisa

Could easily become a 5-4-1 if you're not careful I guess.  Just not convinced we get enough out of wingers by asking them to defend, which inevitably happens.  At the minute they seem to be trapped between offering width in attack, helping the fullback and then bridging that central gap between attack and midfield.
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Quoted from AdamHaddock
I suspect we'll have to go for young, inexperienced loanees again. Hopefully better than Simmonds


You win nothing with kids
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I spent a lot of time there a few years back on business during the spectacularly failed conversion of the Homebase chain into “Bunnings” by a bunch of clueless Aussies who failed to understand the dynamics and weather patterns of the Northern hemisphere. “Whadda ya mean no one buys barbecues at Christmas in the UK, ya pommie bástard? We sell heaps back home in Oz, so we’ll flamin’ well do it here too, cúnt”.

That’s more or less a verbatim conversation I had with one of the bolshie Aussie bigwigs in the Homebase / Bunnings boardroom, which looked out onto the most soulless branch of Wetherspoons I’ve ever visited, but couldn’t wait to get back to that particular afternoon. Some weeks later,  it would be my fault that they had failed to sell 99.9% of their stock of Weber barbecues come the New Year.

I would find myself spending 2 or 3 nights a week at the Jury’s Inn MK for a period of 3 or 4 months having nonsense arguments like this, and it was made all the more depressing by the fact that the town centre has absolutely nothing going for it, other than their unique system of underpasses which are handy by day but a bit stabby / rapey at night. Everything is white plastic and glass, with the all the architectural flair of a chicken nugget. You like your pubs to look like a Regus office? Milton Keynes is the place for you.

It was those visits though that helped me understand the mentality of an MK Dons fan a little better; something I’d always struggled to wrap my head around. To live in Milton Keynes, you must have no regard whatsoever for things like history, provenance, soul or self-respect. Once you understand that, you begin to understand how BFS can attract 5,000 odd plastic people to their fine but fundamentally tainted stadium.

Strange, strange place. Intolerable football club.


Back in the 80s I worked for the Aussie subsidiary of a US company. We were implementing a new commercial system they had piloted for the region in Japan. The septics would not accept we needed multiple warehouses because Japan only needed one and they were a bigger market.

Your Aussies got one thing right though, ya pommie illegitimate😁
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This day has got a late deal or two written all over it..

No doubt another midfielder will come...everyone will be screaming for the strikers and then the socials will drop a hint that a striker is in bound...

in the final minute....Town secure a season long loan of a striker from the Championship who will be 19 years old, played once in the EFL Cup, and has spent time on loan at Scarborough, Gainsborough and York and has scored 1 goal in 25 games  


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Back in the 80s I worked for the Aussie subsidiary of a US company. We were implementing a new commercial system they had piloted for the region in Japan. The septics would not accept we needed multiple warehouses because Japan only needed one and they were a bigger market.

Your Aussies got one thing right though, ya pommie illegitimate😁


It’s a bit non football, but the Bunnings shambles is similar to an experience I had when the company I was at was bought by an Australian business.  The new owners insisted they were going to do exactly the same things as they’d done in Oz.  It was a disaster and they ended up selling the company for a fraction of what they paid.
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Tshimanga is expected to leave Peterborough on loan today. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up at Stockport or Wrexham.
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You win nothing with kids


But you might do better then 14th
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Tshimanga is expected to leave Peterborough on loan today. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up at Stockport or Wrexham.


Wrexham are near to signing Brandon Hanlan from Wycombe, according to various press reports.
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Wrexham are near to signing Brandon Hanlan from Wycombe, according to various press reports.


The fact they are paying 300k for a striker who has scored 29 goals in 200 League 1 games shows how bonkers the market is.


UTM
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Keep an eye on potential incomings at Hull today.
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Quoted from Surrey97
Keep an eye on potential incomings at Hull today.


Assume if they get Furlong from Brighton, we get Fleming?
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Cheltenham have just signed a young striker from Arsenal on loan. George Lloyd, anyone?
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Cheltenham have just signed a young striker from Arsenal on loan. George Lloyd, anyone?


He's already at Cheltenham.
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Cheltenham have just signed a young striker from Arsenal on loan. George Lloyd, anyone?


He's just had ankle surgery
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Also just been told we are not in for Tyreese Shade
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Cheltenham have just signed a young striker from Arsenal on loan. George Lloyd, anyone?


he's still as injured as the last time someone said his name

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he's still as injured as the last time someone said his name



Yes but remember we sold McAtee to Luton who was then loaned back to us even though we know he was unable to play for 4 - 6 months with the shoulder injury. We could still take any player who is injured on a season long loan.
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Yes but remember we sold McAtee to Luton who was then loaned back to us even though we know he was unable to play for 4 - 6 months with the shoulder injury. We could still take any player who is injured on a season long loan.



Mcatee got injured the first game of the season,n away at Orient, it was after that that the decision on surgery was made

Signing a player who is injured would be, for want of a better phrase, stupidity
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The madness of the market is even further reflected that Tshimanga's value looks to have doubled, despite a pretty unspectacular (and that's kind!) spell at Peterborough.
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Quoted from MaccasBoots
Cheltenham have just signed a young striker from Arsenal on loan. George Lloyd, anyone?


Cheltenham now have loanees from five different Premier League clubs.
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The madness of the market is even further reflected that Tshimanga's value looks to have doubled, despite a pretty unspectacular (and that's kind!) spell at Peterborough.


How much are Posh asking for?


A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner.
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Brandon Fleming gone to Shrewsbury on loan.


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How much are Posh asking for?


£500k is the fee that's getting banded about.
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£500k is the fee that's getting banded about.


He’d have been worth double that pre-injury, but that’s a lot of money for someone who’s pretty much unproven since his return. Posh are notoriously stubborn in the transfer market, but I’d be surprised if anyone pays that. I would imagine a loan involving some sort of fee might be more attractive to interested parties.


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He’d have been worth double that pre-injury, but that’s a lot of money for someone who’s pretty much unproven since his return. Posh are notoriously stubborn in the transfer market, but I’d be surprised if anyone pays that. I would imagine a loan involving some sort of fee might be more attractive to interested parties.


If he is fit and able to leave on loan I’d be round there on bended knee.


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It's what he's not managed to do since returning from injury though for me.  I think it was just as much about a change of style at Chesterfield, but he wasn't the main man there anymore.  Then at Peterborough he's done pretty much nothing.  

Normally I'd agree that no-one will be daft enough to pay that amount.  But the values of pretty average strikers has hit some sort of hyper-inflation this summer.  There's also the Wrexham 'hold our beer' type approach to transfers too.
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Been told Gary Madine is in talks with a few clubs in L2... out our budget?
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Been told Gary Madine is in talks with a few clubs in L2... out our budget?


He’s injured until the new year, isn’t he? ACL.


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Also a notorious helmet, doesn't strike me as the type of character Hurst would entertain trying to sign (even if he is the sort of player we could do with).


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Also a notorious helmet, doesn't strike me as the type of character Hurst would entertain trying to sign (even if he is the sort of player we could do with).


Two criminal convictions. PH won’t touch him
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What time are we expecting the Omar Bogle post/rumour?
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Quoted from devs
What time are we expecting the Omar Bogle post/rumour?


I think you've just started it.
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Omar Bogle coming back is what I've heard.  



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Cheltenham have just signed a young striker from Arsenal on loan. George Lloyd, anyone?


Am I the only one that thought George Lloyd was ok, an honest trier, and not a game changer at this level? Don't see the obsession myself..
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Omar Bogle coming back is what I've heard.  


Given his form over the last season it sounds like he's in his first settled period since he left us.

Worth a bid  



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Two criminal convictions. PH won’t touch him


Liam Hearn and Scott Neilson had both done a bit of bird, hadn’t they? Not relevant to Madine specifically, as there’s a good chance his career is over, but the idea he’s only ever signed angels is a bit of a myth.


A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner.
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Liam Hearn and Scott Neilson had both done a bit of bird, hadn’t they? Not relevant to Madine specifically, as there’s a good chance his career is over, but the idea he’s only ever signed angels is a bit of a myth.


We also signed Clayton McDonald knowing full well he was the other guy involved in the Ched Evans case.


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Incoming 👍🏻
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Incoming 👍🏻


It Bites has spoken. There will be no incomings today.
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It Bites has spoken. There will be no incomings today.


Based on ? 😅😅😅
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Based on ? 😅😅😅


Your impeccable reputation preceeds you. 🤣🤣
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It Bites has spoken. There will be no incomings today.


He's correct, we signed one yesterday, bit of pointless drama going on here..
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Based on ? 😅😅😅


Your hit rate really. For what it's worth, I'm sure there will be at least one incoming today.
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Your hit rate really. For what it's worth, I'm sure there will be at least one incoming today.


Ben Davies said 2 or 3 in his post match interview so your probably right!!
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He's correct, we signed one yesterday, bit of pointless drama going on here..


I dunno how true this is but it has happened before where it’s been pissing down in NEL all day and a signing that’s supposed to have been made ‘today’ is unveiled on the pitch in bright sunshine or vice versa. I hate the whole pantomime and performance of deadline day.
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I dunno how true this is but it has happened before where it’s been pissing down in NEL all day and a signing that’s supposed to have been made ‘today’ is unveiled on the pitch in bright sunshine or vice versa. I hate the whole pantomime and performance of deadline day.


Your right mate . It’s a load of Bollox hyped up by Sky Sports .
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Very quiet isn’t it


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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Surrey, or someone claiming to be Surrey, is saying Kane Hemmings over on Twitter.

Tweet 1697649468961689755 will appear here...


Also that Bogle has said no. Let that be the last mention of him until 01.01.2024
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Hemmings was released by Tranmere today. Very respectable record at this level.

Tranmere fans saying a great bloke but just didn't work out there for them.
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When I saw that he’d left there I thought it had a potential for a move here. Fits the bill.
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Great signing if true . He knows where the net is
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Surrey, or someone claiming to be Surrey, is saying Kane Hemmings over on Twitter.

Tweet 1697649468961689755 will appear here...


Also that Bogle has said no. Let that be the last mention of him until 01.01.2024


This account was set up today, would be taking it with a very heavy pinch of salt.

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I hope somebody has not cloned Surrey - we need confirmation if  he has/not made his own transfer over to Twitter space .
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Would be very happy with Hemmings, knows where the net is. Only a couple or so years ago he bagged 15 in the league above
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Hemmings was released by Tranmere today. Very respectable record at this level.

Tranmere fans saying a great bloke but just didn't work out there for them.


PH has a solid track record in signing great blokes. Gav for example - seems like the sort of person you’d be happy to have a few pints of Guinness with. Luke Waterfall as well…

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His name sounded familiar, so I did a Google search and came across an article that was in the Guardian a while back, which I read at the time.

He seems a very good bloke but he suffers with his mental health, like a lot of players. Maybe he has decided to quit footy?

Hope the rumour has some legs though, as he would be a great addition to the team and the club.
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Would be better than the last striker we signed that had just been released by Tranmere!


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Quoted from ginnywings
His name sounded familiar, so I did a Google search and came across an article that was in the Guardian a while back, which I read at the time.

He seems a very good bloke but he suffers with his mental health, like a lot of players. Maybe he has decided to quit footy?

Hope the rumour has some legs though, as he would be a great addition to the team and the club.


Read the very same article. Also discussed how negative and ofter personal comments on social media can have an impact on mental health. People say its "part and parcel of the game" but i would say that was naive seeing how vitriolic some of the stuff can be. Some will stick. Seems like a decent character though and would be quite happy if the rumour was true.
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32 though, so maybe, if true, 1 year?

As for the notion that Bogle “said no”……well, wouldn’t be the first time his ego made the wrong call. If not true, then forget that. He’s ace and I’m an idiot.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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Is Kane abel?
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So nothing happining yet then ?
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So nothing happining yet then ?


Not for us, so it seems.

But I have seen that Elliot Embleton is undergoing a medical for a move to Derby County
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So nothing happining yet then ?


No, but you’ll be the first to moan about it when it does
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No, but you’ll be the first to moan about it when it does


Midnight last night when he knocked out 'Very underwhelming. Can't believe we've waited all day for this' and hit CTRL+C. Now been waiting 20 hours to hit CTRL+V and the frustration is growing.
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He’s only got one mode


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Surrey, or someone claiming to be Surrey, is saying Kane Hemmings over on Twitter.

Tweet 1697649468961689755 will appear here...


Also that Bogle has said no. Let that be the last mention of him until 01.01.2024


News to me but that’s quite funny 😅 could be something in Hemmings but not heard anything myself.
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How sad have you got to be to imitate a poster off the fishy ? Nothing personal 97 btw 🤣


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2hrs and 20 minutes ish from meltdown! Get your best moans ready!
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It would be seriously underwhelming if we don't sign anybody, I think we need reinforcements, i am hoping players have already signed but the club are deliberately delaying the announcements to build up suspense
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Have we got any history of last minute deals that have turned out any good? I remember last season we signed Hunt which was exciting that hasn’t turned out great so far and any others were poor. Seem like rush signings if we haven’t got them in already.
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I expect the word 'underwhelmed' to get a good airing tonight and tomorrow.
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I’m so underwhelmed I won’t bother watching next transfer deadline day
I’ll treat it like father Xmas and see if he has done anything the following morning….
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How sad have you got to be to imitate a poster off the fishy ? Nothing personal 97 btw 🤣


To be fair I’ve been known to pass myself off as lukeo whenever I’m in the south west. Got me into the VIP section of Taunton Mecca Bingo where the fanny was like something out of a magazine. A crochet magazine; but when a shàg’s about as rare as a Town transfer deadline day signing I’ll take whatever I can get.


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I expect the word 'underwhelmed' to get a good airing tonight and tomorrow.


Here’s a photo of a damp squid I prepared earlier, in case anyone wants to borrow it.



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It’s squib Poojah, squib
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Here’s a photo of a damp squid I prepared earlier, in case anyone wants to borrow it.



An intelligent fellow like you knows it's squib (a firework) but still funny.
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It’s squib Poojah, squib


Nah mate, my uncle was a fishmonger. That’s definitely a squid.


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Nah mate, my uncle was a fishmonger. That’s definitely a squid.


Can’t argue with that
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Nah mate, my uncle was a fishmonger. That’s definitely a squid.


Never mind that, where's that sick squid you owe me.
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Harry Vaughan from Hull?
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Embarrassing end to the window.
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There will be a total meltdown now
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Davies sounded very confident earlier on, strange to not get a single one in
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Things drawing to a close like a moist cuttlefish.


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Has anyone told Surrey?
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Quoted from headingly_mariner
There will be a total meltdown now


With some justification given Ben Davies’ comments earlier.
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Why bother waiting for the meltdown?

In June and July this looked to be a pretty good window but to end without many striking options is very disappointing. At least we’ve got January to look forward to  
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Embarrassing end to the window.


Go on then, why is it embarrassing

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May as well lock this thread now, little disappointed we've done no business but that's life I suppose, best get used to some bore draws at home again because as it stands a toothless gurning champion has more bite than us...
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Go on then, why is it embarrassing



Well we've created the least in the league, it's pretty obvious with anyone with eyes that we needed something in the forward areas. Vernam injury only further enhances that. Green said to be out for some time aswell. All for not bringing people in to make up the numbers but we're a couple injuries away from a crisis.
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Davies said they were working on 2 or 3, but he never said they were all but done, or words to that effect.

However, it's disappointing again and recent deadline days have been somewhat 'underwhelming'.  
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Well we've created the least in the league, it's pretty obvious with anyone with eyes that we needed something in the forward areas. Vernam injury only further enhances that. Green said to be out for some time aswell. All for not bringing people in to make up the numbers but we're a couple injuries away from a crisis.


So how is that embarrassing?  Do you know why we haven’t signed any more players?
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Go on then, why is it embarrassing



Come on Bear. You’re not a fool, I’m a big fan of PH but to not have brought anyone in is extremely dissapointing
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It's not embarrassing but it is severely underwhelming given last season's cup run and all the unbudgeted income from it. Considering we spent most of last season knowing McAtee was off at the end of it, and all the chatter from the club around appointing a bloke to help out with player recruitment i'd really have expected us to end the transfer window with a much deeper array of attacking options.


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I struggle to see how even the most positive fan could deem ending tonight with no signings as even remotely acceptable
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Bet we still bring in at least 1. Might be an 18 year old winger without a professional game played but still think something will happen.
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So how is that embarrassing?  Do you know why we haven’t signed any more players?


Embarrassing quite a strong word for it, but given Hursts comments about waiting on target no 1 which was evidently Charlie Mcneill who chose Stevenage left us up shits creek without a paddle. I was very optimistic about the season at the start of the window and thought we was being pro-active. We've been anything but pro active since and now have one match fit striker going into the season with the window shut.
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Other than Conteh and Rodgers both being on long contracts and looking like excellent signings, if that’s most the budget spent after record attendances and some unexpected FA Cup money then I really don’t think we’ve spent the money that well.
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It's not embarrassing but it is severely underwhelming given last season's cup run and all the unbudgeted income from it. Considering we spent most of last season knowing McAtee was off at the end of it, and all the chatter from the club around appointing a bloke to help out with player recruitment i'd really have expected us to end the transfer window with a much deeper array of attacking options.


It’s strange, really. We started the window quicker than any club at this level and with quality most, myself included, were satisfied. If this window ends as quietly, or quieter still, than the last couple have then it seems out of kilter with that early season bullishness.

I don’t think it’s a disaster, but it’s rather odd if nothing else.



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Come on Bear. You’re not a fool, I’m a big fan of PH but to not have brought anyone in is extremely dissapointing


I agree it’s dissapointing, but that doesn’t mean it’s embarrassing.  I’ sure PH and his staff have been working hard to bring some in, but you can’t always get what you want.

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Sorry to say but I believe we are at least two players short of a playoff finish.

Prove me wrong please Mr Hurst please.


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I struggle to see how even the most positive fan could deem ending tonight with no signings as even remotely acceptable


Maybe because we did plenty of business at the start of the window to avoid having to overpay and scramble around at the last minute. We’ve got a couple of important players to come back from injury and have had a reasonable start to the season. That’s acceptable for me.
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There will be a few free agents around after today, so we may be able to still pick some players up.

I think transfer windows are crazy anyway, and put expectations on fans that clubs sign a never ending array of new players, and we get disappointed when it doesn't happen. I'm sure we could have signed any amount of players, but if they aren't the right ones we need, and will progress the team, then there is no point. We couldn't get our first choice targets over the line.

It used to be so much simpler years ago, when players were signed infrequently and it was announced in the Telegraph.
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Other than Conteh and Rodgers both being on long contracts and looking like excellent signings, if that’s most the budget spent after record attendances and some unexpected FA Cup money then I really don’t think we’ve spent the money that well.


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Other than Conteh and Rodgers both being on long contracts and looking like excellent signings, if that’s most the budget spent after record attendances and some unexpected FA Cup money then I really don’t think we’ve spent the money that well.


Eisa's got 4 goals in 5 games.
Mullarkey looks decent. I've been really impressed with Rose.
The two you've mentioned look like real quality players.

It's too early to judge Wilson and Pyke.
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Maybe because we did plenty of business at the start of the window to avoid having to overpay and scramble around at the last minute. We’ve got a couple of important players to come back from injury and have had a reasonable start to the season. That’s acceptable for me.


The start of the window was fantastic and we’ve made some really good signings, absolutely no doubt.

But to end a window with the same problems we’ve had for what, 6 windows now? Unacceptable
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Just your six-monthly reminder that we can still sign anyone (who was a free agent as the window closed) for a good month or so after the window closes.
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Got a new roof on the Ponny, better bogs in the Main and a few extra bits of wood.


Yep but this seems like a really big opportunity missed. I can easily forgive the relative drudgery of the league campaign last season because of the pre-season circumstances. The team did amazingly in the fa cup to keep interest high and bring in even more money. We also had top 7 attendances in the league when you take into account two of the teams with bigger attendances than us went up. Season tickets this season have held up really well and the club themselves were bragging about how much increase they’d overseen in commercial income.

So if this squad as it stands is all we can muster then I’m very disappointed. It’s quite some way short of a play off challenge in my opinion and another season of doing nothing in the league and serving up unentertaining football may see some fans start to drift away again. Particularly as it’s highly unlikely we’ll match our fa cup exploits from last season. With all the factors going in our favour in the last 15 months which we may never get again (ridiculous play off win and amazing fa cup run 8 months apart) and this is the best we can hope for? What a waste.
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The start of the window was fantastic and we’ve made some really good signings, absolutely no doubt.

But to end a window with the same problems we’ve had for what, 6 windows now? Unacceptable


What problems are they exactly? If you think not signing a 20 goal a season striker on deadline day is unacceptable you need a reality check. Plenty of fans panicking back in January were made to look pretty silly but don’t seem to have learnt from it
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I’ll put this as simple as possible.  The Transfer Window is not a shop.  You cannot go to a shelf, pick up a striker and put him in your basket, pay at the till and walk away with a brand new player.  Said this many times before but some people still don’t get it.  
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Eisa's got 4 goals in 5 games.
Mullarkey looks decent. I've been really impressed with Rose.
The two you've mentioned look like real quality players.

It's too early to judge Wilson and Pyke.


Up top is a major concern but the players we have brought in are better than what we had, considerably.

To say the cup money is wasted is ridiculous, I'd bet now that we will get more than that selling a couple of those bought.

Really really hope we get a big guy up front very soon though
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Just your six-monthly reminder that we can still sign anyone (who was a free agent as the window closed) for a good month or so after the window closes.


You mean the players no one else wants?
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What problems are they exactly? If you think not signing a 20 goal a season striker on deadline day is unacceptable you need a reality check. Plenty of fans panicking back in January were made to look pretty silly but don’t seem to have learnt from it


Firstly, who asked for a 20 goal striker? It’s a myth made up by people looking to deflect away from the fact we don’t even have a 10 goal striker.

Secondly, which part of our season fading out after January but for an amazing cup run in which most the new signings couldn’t play in made people look silly?
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Yep but this seems like a really big opportunity missed. I can easily forgive the relative drudgery of the league campaign last season because of the pre-season circumstances. The team did amazingly in the fa cup to keep interest high and bring in even more money. We also had too 7 attendances in the league when you take into account two of the teams with bigger attendances than us went up. Season tickets this season have held up really well and the club themselves were bragging about how much increase they’d overseen in commercial income.

So if this squad as it stands is all we can muster then I’m very disappointed. It’s quite some way short of a play off challenge in my opinion and another season of doing nothing in the league and serving up unentertaining football may see some fans start to drift away again. Particularly as it’s highly unlikely we’ll match our fa cup exploits from last season. With all the factors going in our favour in the last 15 months which we may never get again (ridiculous play off win and amazing fa cup run 8 months apart) and this is the best we can hope for? What a waste.


We've played 5 games. Still haven't seen 2 of our attacking signings in the league and Khan hasn't kicked a ball.
We've been shelling out long term deals for the first time ever. I think we will do better than you suggest.
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Eisa's got 4 goals in 5 games.
Mullarkey looks decent. I've been really impressed with Rose.
The two you've mentioned look like real quality players.

It's too early to judge Wilson and Pyke.


Yep Eisa has done well and Mullarkey and Eastwood both look decent additions. Rose is a real nuisance and I like him. Conteh and Rodgers are class. But we still don’t have a left back who is consistently able to perform at a level good enough for top of L2, our central midfielders are not good enough in the main to control games against good opposition  (maybe the new lad from WBA can change that)  and we’re woefully short of numbers up top. We’re lacking in pace and physicality like we were last season too. Despite some good additions this season, it’s still a squad that has some glaring holes in it.
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Firstly, who asked for a 20 goal striker? It’s a myth made up by people looking to deflect away from the fact we don’t even have a 10 goal striker.

Secondly, which part of our season fading out after January but for an amazing cup run in which most the new signings couldn’t play in made people look silly?


Ones who said our lack of quality signings would make us relegation candidates.
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I’ll put this as simple as possible.  The Transfer Window is not a shop.  You cannot go to a shelf, pick up a striker and put him in your basket, pay at the till and walk away with a brand new player.  Said this many times before but some people still don’t get it.  


We know that  obviously. The club don't act like it is a shop either  - they have data specialists and recruitment specialists and lists of players. However you cut it if we don't sign anybody especially with our injury problems it is a blow.

Other clubs with smaller gates, less history and less potential have had good windows, for example Barrow. In addition to that the lack of chances created in the games so far, one isolated forward player and we really could have done with a boost tonight.
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Firstly, who asked for a 20 goal striker? It’s a myth made up by people looking to deflect away from the fact we don’t even have a 10 goal striker.

Secondly, which part of our season fading out after January but for an amazing cup run in which most the new signings couldn’t play in made people look silly?


What are the weaknesses that you don’t think have been addressed for 6 windows then?

Plenty of people on here we’re having a meltdown in January saying we would be sucked into a relegation battle. Saying apart from the amazing cup run is rather changing history to suit your point. We achieved that without any new players which is exactly why the panic in January was over the top
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What problems are they exactly? If you think not signing a 20 goal a season striker on deadline day is unacceptable you need a reality check. Plenty of fans panicking back in January were made to look pretty silly but don’t seem to have learnt from it


In January we signed a player on deadline day who could lead the line which meant we got a bit more out of McAtee. As well as notching a few goals himself. Without that signing we’d have undoubtedly finished a fair bit lower in the table.
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I wonder if there were enquiries for any of our players who were looking for more game time. If so, will they have to now wait till January without replacements?
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Firstly, who asked for a 20 goal striker? It’s a myth made up by people looking to deflect away from the fact we don’t even have a 10 goal striker.


We’ve got a player in our team right now that has scored 4 goals in our opening 5 games FFS. 🤷‍♂️


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We know that  obviously. The club don't act like it is a shop either  - they have data specialists and recruitment specialists and lists of players. However you cut it if we don't sign anybody especially with our injury problems it is a blow.

Other clubs with smaller gates, less history and less potential have had good windows, for example Barrow. In addition to that the lack of chances created in the games so far, one isolated forward player and we really could have done with a boost tonight.


So are you saying PH hasn’t been trying to sign new players?  I’m pretty sure he has, so what else can he do if his offers have been turned down?  

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What are the weaknesses that you don’t think have been addressed for 6 windows then?

Plenty of people on here we’re having a meltdown in January saying we would be sucked into a relegation battle. Saying apart from the amazing cup run is rather changing history to suit your point. We achieved that without any new players which is exactly why the panic in January was over the top


The weakness now is that we’ll barely be able to fill the bench tomorrow. We have one fit winger (who is also injury prone), two left backs who are best described as inconsistent and a conspicuous lack of a goal threat.
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Looking at the number of unsold seats for tommorrow and the relatively slow sales for Bradford the sensible middle ground look to have made their minds up where we are going this year.
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What are the weaknesses that you don’t think have been addressed for 6 windows then?

Plenty of people on here we’re having a meltdown in January saying we would be sucked into a relegation battle. Saying apart from the amazing cup run is rather changing history to suit your point. We achieved that without any new players which is exactly why the panic in January was over the top


We’re simply not looking threatening enough up front and haven’t for ages. I (and pretty much everybody else) know a 20 goal striker is tough but we don’t have a striker who looks remotely capable of 12-15 ish. I think we lack genuine pace up there as well.

Some of it is tactical but people like me who have been vocal about this issue for ages now aren’t just saying it for the sake of it and for me it’s a glaring issue in our game. As I’ve already said, I’m really pleased with some of our signings, but it’s almost farcical we’re having the same debate on yet another deadline day.
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We’ve got a player in our team right now that has scored 4 goals in our opening 5 games FFS. 🤷‍♂️


And that’s fantastic, but if we’re relying on a winger to score screamers every week I’m afraid we’re in for a long season.
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Looking at the number of unsold seats for tommorrow and the relatively slow sales for Bradford the sensible middle ground look to have made their minds up where we are going this year.


After 5 League matches?  More fool them!

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So are you saying PH hasn’t been trying to sign new players?  I’m pretty sure he has, so what else can he do if his offers have been turned down?  



I would like to take Amanda Holden out, but she gets better offers. You can have as many lists of players as you like, as many data analysts as you like and as many recruitment specialists as you like but just like Amanda they receive better offers. The solution is to increase our offer (money)

If we can't offer more then fair enough but I think we have underestimated the amount of money needed in this age of in demand footballers.
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Looking at the number of unsold seats for tommorrow and the relatively slow sales for Bradford the sensible middle ground look to have made their minds up where we are going this year.


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I would like to take Amanda Holden out, but she gets better offers. You can have as many lists of players as you like, as many data analysts as you like and as many recruitment specialists as you like but just like Amanda they receive better offers. The solution is to increase our offer (money)

If we can't offer more then fair enough but I think we have underestimated the amount of money needed in this age of in demand footballers.


Are you telling me Amanda Holden wasn't with Les Dennis for his brand spanking new toilets and new painted seats?
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Sorry to say but I believe we are at least two players short of a playoff finish.

Prove me wrong please Mr Hurst please.


2. I think 4
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We've got one fit striker and two fit wide players... we're a couple injuries away from Cartwright doing a job up top
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And that’s fantastic, but if we’re relying on a winger to score screamers every week I’m afraid we’re in for a long season.


Sounds like you’re just discounting the fact that we have a player who is nearly half way to scoring 10 goals, after 5 games.

Who cares if he’s a winger and not an out and out striker? He’s a forward player who can play across the front. It’s not championship manager 97/98, the game has moved on.

And who cares if they’re screamers or tap ins? They’re goals. Swear I’ve seen more “but what about when the screamers dry up” posts than people actually buzzing off the goals going in. Bloody killjoys! Hah. 😂

Not saying we’re relying on him, but we’re still only 5 games in and our new squad hasn’t had a chance to gel yet. Pyke looks like he’s got a goal in him. I thought our signings looked decent on paper and my mind hasn’t changed just cos we haven’t signed someone on Sky Sports News Day.

Would’ve been nice to get a few in to cover our injuries but we’ll be reyt.


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I would like to take Amanda Holden out, but she gets better offers. You can have as many lists of players as you like, as many data analysts as you like and as many recruitment specialists as you like but just like Amanda they receive better offers. The solution is to increase our offer (money)

If we can't offer more then fair enough but I think we have underestimated the amount of money needed in this age of in demand footballers.


Or we don’t have the amount of money required to buy one of these top strikers.  Have you see the prices some of them are fetching?

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Sounds like you’re just discounting the fact that we have a player who is nearly half way to scoring 10 goals, after 5 games.

Who cares if he’s a winger and not an out and out striker? He’s a forward player who can play across the front. It’s not championship manager 97/98, the game has moved on.

And who cares if they’re screamers or tap ins? They’re goals. Swear I’ve seen more “but what about when the screamers dry up posts than people actually buzzing off the goals going in. Bloody killjoys! Hah. 😂

Not saying we’re relying on him, but we’re still only 5 games in and our new squad hasn’t had a chance to gel yet. Pyke looks like he’s got a goal in him. I thought our signings looked decent and my mind hasn’t changed just cos we haven’t signed someone on Sky Sports News Day.

Would’ve been nice to get a few in to cover our injuries but we’ll be reyt.


This is my annoyance, i'm not discounting the quality of our signings. We have Conteh leaving us to go with Sierra Leone, Otis Khan could have international opportunities with Pakistan. No ETA on Wilson being back, Vernam and Green look likely to not be seen until close to the New Year. We are very short with injuries.
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Or we don’t have the amount of money required to buy one of these top strikers.  Have you see the prices some of them are fetching?



The owners use the phrase ‘continuous improvement’. That costs. I’m not saying they should empty the coffers but there’s a danger of over promising and under delivering at the moment.
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I am torn.

Some posts are ridiculous but I do think we could do with another striker lol.

Yep we definitely do
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Or we don’t have the amount of money required to buy one of these top strikers.  Have you see the prices some of them are fetching?



We would seriously be buggered if it wasn’t for the cup run and season ticket sales then.
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We’re simply not looking threatening enough up front and haven’t for ages. I (and pretty much everybody else) know a 20 goal striker is tough but we don’t have a striker who looks remotely capable of 12-15 ish. I think we lack genuine pace up there as well.

Some of it is tactical but people like me who have been vocal about this issue for ages now aren’t just saying it for the sake of it and for me it’s a glaring issue in our game. As I’ve already said, I’m really pleased with some of our signings, but it’s almost farcical we’re having the same debate on yet another deadline day.


If you have any interest in looking at positives we signed a player in the summer who has scored 4 in 5 and signed an attacking player on loan a couple of days ago. We’ve also signed players who could make us significant amounts of money if they continue to impress. Only 3 teams have conceded less goals than us. If you think this is ‘almost farcical’ I can only assume you missed most of this century.
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Or we don’t have the amount of money required to buy one of these top strikers.  Have you see the prices some of them are fetching?



I think we are in agreement. I wonder how clubs with smaller gates,  less income and less potential do it?

It would be nice to hear about new investment coming in to the club. If we are determined to be self sustaining from this low base it will be very difficult to make much progress.
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This is my annoyance, i'm not discounting the quality of our signings. We have Conteh leaving us to go with Sierra Leone, Otis Khan could have international opportunities with Pakistan. No ETA on Wilson being back, Vernam and Green look likely to not be seen until close to the New Year. We are very short with injuries.


I said it would’ve been nice to get a few in to cover injuries? There’s also the free market (Hemmings who people were excited about and Emmanuel who people loved come under this bracket).

Worse comes to worse some players can do a job in other positions. Harry played wide the majority of our promotion season. Glennon can play left wing and is our best crosser.

intercourse it, chuck a youngster in if it comes to it.

We’ll be alright.


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This is my annoyance, i'm not discounting the quality of our signings. We have Conteh leaving us to go with Sierra Leone, Otis Khan could have international opportunities with Pakistan. No ETA on Wilson being back, Vernam and Green look likely to not be seen until close to the New Year. We are very short with injuries.


That’s very true, but those facts are not going to have any effect on the players PH is trying to sign if they are not happy with any part of the contract they have been offered.

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After 5 League matches?  More fool them!



It’s not more fool them though is it? Since we returned to the EFL the number of quality exciting games at BP can be counted on one hand and whilst nobody expects us to play like Man City we rarely offer any entertaining front foot attacking football. The vast majority of supporters don’t expect miracles but I believe the vast majority anticipated that with all the new staff employed by the club we would be enjoying our visits to BP more than we are and that our Recruitment Manager would have helped us bring in forwards who have some height, physicality and pace. From the matches so far we have got decent quality in a number of positions but this has not yet manifested in any real improvement on the pitch.

Accept players have to gel but it would be good to know what formation we actually set out to play in home matches as to date I’ve found it somewhat confusing.

Nobody expects us to compete financially with some of the clubs in this league but as others have said Barrow seems to attract players more easily than town. Disappointed as I feel it’s another season of mundane football and mid table mediocrity but accept that’s much better than enduring another relegation battle.
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I would like to take Amanda Holden out, but she gets better offers. You can have as many lists of players as you like, as many data analysts as you like and as many recruitment specialists as you like but just like Amanda they receive better offers. The solution is to increase our offer (money)

If we can't offer more then fair enough but I think we have underestimated the amount of money needed in this age of in demand footballers.


So if it is the case that we can’t offer the money these players are offered elsewhere and therein lies the problem, is this transfer window still “underwhelming”, “embarrassing”, “unacceptable”, or are we simply recruiting within our means?

If we’re recruiting within our means, but that ends with PH opting not to sign players he deems sub-standard and a waste of time is that not considered a positive?

Either way, he doesn’t win. Can’t sign the players he wants due to budget limitations then it’s a poor window. Signs players who don’t have a CV to the fans standards it’s a poor window.

I don’t disagree with any arguments that an additional striker would be beneficial, and I wouldn’t have got upset if he brought in any other players just for depth. Equally though I don’t see this window as anything derogatory. I truly believe we’ve improved our squad compared to last season and whether we bring any surprises in or not, the next few months will help us identify what’s needed in January and I’m further sure that our more progressive approach will be evident again in that window.

Patience over panic.

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If you have any interest in looking at positives we signed a player in the summer who has scored 4 in 5 and signed an attacking player on loan a couple of days ago. We’ve also signed players who could make us significant amounts of money if they continue to impress. Only 3 teams have conceded less goals than us. If you think this is ‘almost farcical’ I can only assume you missed most of this century.


Great post. Really don’t understand the online narrative that we’ve had a disastrous start to the season.



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I said it would’ve been nice to get a few in to cover injuries? There’s also the free market (Hemmings who people were excited about and Emmanuel who people loved come under this bracket).

Worse comes to worse some players can do a job in other positions. Harry played wide the majority of our promotion season. Glennon can play left wing and is our best crosser.

intercourse it, chuck a youngster in worst comes to worst.

We’ll be alright.


Sorry I meant to quote the last bit, not the whole thing in that I was in agreement with you that a couple more injuries in forward areas then we are royally screwed. I think the signings we made were an improvement but we failed to capitalise on being pro active in the start of the window. We knew certain signings had injury issues when we signed them so a couple of loans should of really been targeted early in the window. Like I said before, losing Vernam leaves us with one match fit forward and two match fit wide men. You put Harry out wide then that leaves us short centrally, we really need Khan and Wilson back ASAP.
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I said it would’ve been nice to get a few in to cover injuries? There’s also the free market (Hemmings who people were excited about and Emmanuel who people loved come under this bracket).

Worse comes to worse some players can do a job in other positions. Harry played wide the majority of our promotion season. Glennon can play left wing and is our best crosser.

intercourse it, chuck a youngster in worst comes to worst.

We’ll be alright.


And sssshhhhhhh no one’s mentioned Connor wickham yet 😖


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Sorry I meant to quote the last bit, not the whole thing in that I was in agreement with you that a couple more injuries in forward areas then we are royally screwed. I think the signings we made were an improvement but we failed to capitalise on being pro active in the start of the window. We knew certain signings had injury issues when we signed them so a couple of loans should of really been targeted early in the window. Like I said before, losing Vernam leaves us with one match fit forward and two match fit wide men. You put Harry out wide then that leaves us short centrally, we really need Khan and Wilson back ASAP.


Yeah, Khan coming back alleviates a lot of pressure up top. Really rate him.

Liked the sound of Wilson too. Hoping they’re both back asap.


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Great post. Really don’t understand the online narrative that we’ve had a disastrous start to the season.



I don’t expect Eisa to ping in goals like that every game, do you? Other than his long range strikes, we’ve posed very little threat so far this season and that worries me a lot.
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I don’t expect Eisa to ping in goals like that every game, do you? Other than his long range strikes, we’ve posed very little threat so far this season and that worries me a lot.


Nope, but I’ll enjoy it as and when he does. And it’s not as if that’s the only thing he’s capable of doing.

It doesn’t worry me that much because we’ve only played 5 games  


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I don’t expect Eisa to ping in goals like that every game, do you? Other than his long range strikes, we’ve posed very little threat so far this season and that worries me a lot.


I agree we are lacking in creativity but most of those goals have put us ahead in games. Rightly or wrongly we have therefore been less creative as we have been winning.

As I said before, it still counts as a goal.
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It’s not more fool them though is it? Since we returned to the EFL the number of quality exciting games at BP can be counted on one hand and whilst nobody expects us to play like Man City we rarely offer any entertaining front foot attacking football. The vast majority of supporters don’t expect miracles but I believe the vast majority anticipated that with all the new staff employed by the club we would be enjoying our visits to BP more than we are and that our Recruitment Manager would have helped us bring in forwards who have some height, physicality and pace. From the matches so far we have got decent quality in a number of positions but this has not yet manifested in any real improvement on the pitch.

Accept players have to gel but it would be good to know what formation we actually set out to play in home matches as to date I’ve found it somewhat confusing.

Nobody expects us to compete financially with some of the clubs in this league but as others have said Barrow seems to attract players more easily than town. Disappointed as I feel it’s another season of mundane football and mid table mediocrity but accept that’s much better than enduring another relegation battle.


I 100% agree with you re the quality of football at BP.  I would love to see us playing 2 up top and attacking the opponents instead of worrying about what they are going to do.   But I am not a Professional Football Manager and therefore wouldn’t have the audacity to tell PH how we should play.

As for Barrow, correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought I read somewhere they have a very rich owner.

As for the Recruitment Manager finding a really good tall striker, maybe he did, but again I don’t understand why people think that because we have identified a player who would be good for us, that he will automatically sign for us, there are many parameters in an attempt to persuade a player to join our club.  It really is this simple, player refuses contract, we can’t improve on it.  No signature.
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I agree we are lacking in creativity but most of those goals have put us ahead in games. Rightly or wrongly we have therefore been less creative as we have been winning.

As I said before, it still counts as a goal.


Of course it does but you can’t rely on doing it every week.
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Hopefully the club can look at the Hemmings situation as an option after the deadline. Told we went back in for Tom Hopper after originally cooling our interest earlier this window, but due to time and logistics we couldn’t get the deal done in time today. Brandon Fleming was another we was hoping to get through the door but he ended up at Shrewsbury.
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Surely there’s going to be a 17 or 18 year old kid, who has just signed his first professional contract in the premier league,as a striker, being woken up by his parents, telling him he’s just signed a season long loan with the mighty mariners. ( longest sentence I’ve ever written)
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Sounds like you’re just discounting the fact that we have a player who is nearly half way to scoring 10 goals, after 5 games.

Who cares if he’s a winger and not an out and out striker? He’s a forward player who can play across the front. It’s not championship manager 97/98, the game has moved on.

And who cares if they’re screamers or tap ins? They’re goals. Swear I’ve seen more “but what about when the screamers dry up” posts than people actually buzzing off the goals going in. Bloody killjoys! Hah. 😂

Not saying we’re relying on him, but we’re still only 5 games in and our new squad hasn’t had a chance to gel yet. Pyke looks like he’s got a goal in him. I thought our signings looked decent on paper and my mind hasn’t changed just cos we haven’t signed someone on Sky Sports News Day.

Would’ve been nice to get a few in to cover our injuries but we’ll be reyt.


Not at all, but Eisa scoring 10 goals isn’t going to change the fact we need a striker to be doing something similar.

The squad is light, again. There’s no two ways about it and we shouldn’t be having this debate yet again.
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So if it is the case that we can’t offer the money these players are offered elsewhere and therein lies the problem, is this transfer window still “underwhelming”, “embarrassing”, “unacceptable”, or are we simply recruiting within our means?

If we’re recruiting within our means, but that ends with PH opting not to sign players he deems sub-standard and a waste of time is that not considered a positive?

Either way, he doesn’t win. Can’t sign the players he wants due to budget limitations then it’s a poor window. Signs players who don’t have a CV to the fans standards it’s a poor window.

I don’t disagree with any arguments that an additional striker would be beneficial, and I wouldn’t have got upset if he brought in any other players just for depth. Equally though I don’t see this window as anything derogatory. I truly believe we’ve improved our squad compared to last season and whether we bring any surprises in or not, the next few months will help us identify what’s needed in January and I’m further sure that our more progressive approach will be evident again in that window.

Patience over panic.



We can recruit within our means forever and a day but support will fall off and we will find it incredibly difficult to make progress.

Fans crave excitement and with no news on redevelopment, the training ground and no new investment and trailing other clubs in signing players the initial optimistic view of new owners will start to subside. The football is not very good either which is compounding our problems.

I have sympathy but it it is just the way it is. I will be there tomorrow as enthusiastically as ever, but I am trying to look at it from the less committed point of view.
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Hopefully the club can look at the Hemmings situation as an option after the deadline. Told we went back in for Tom Hopper after originally cooling our interest earlier this window, but due to time and logistics we couldn’t get the deal done in time today. Brandon Fleming was another we was hoping to get through the door but he ended up at Shrewsbury.


I’m not saying you’re wrong but there seems to be a lot of wishful thinking in that lot.
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Hopefully the club can look at the Hemmings situation as an option after the deadline. Told we went back in for Tom Hopper after originally cooling our interest earlier this window, but due to time and logistics we couldn’t get the deal done in time today. Brandon Fleming was another we was hoping to get through the door but he ended up at Shrewsbury.


Oh shut up with your bullshit. You've no more idea than my dog.
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Well that was very underwhelming thin squad injuries mounting up every week not a happy bunny 🤦🏻‍♂️


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Surely there’s going to be a 17 or 18 year old kid, who has just signed his first professional contract in the premier league,as a striker, being woken up by his parents, telling him he’s just signed a season long loan with the mighty mariners.
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Seb Revan to Rotherham on loan.


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We can recruit within our means forever and a day but support will fall off and we will find it incredibly difficult to make progress.

Fans crave excitement and with no news on redevelopment, the training ground and no new investment and trailing other clubs in signing players the initial optimistic view of new owners will start to subside. The football is not very good either which is compounding our problems.

I have sympathy but it it is just the way it is. I will be there tomorrow as enthusiastically as ever, but I amy trying to look at it from the less committed.


Agree with what you’re saying, if recruitment within our means doesn’t bring in capable players to progress us then the positivity of the last two years will fade.

But can we call transfer windows “unacceptable” under that circumstance?

It’s one of the particulars we’ll never really be privy to in terms of knowing the financial ins and outs and how that compares to our competition but I’d imagine we’re somewhere around the mid-table mark.

If we are a mid table budget then a mid table finish is the theoretical expectation? To progress further means we have to stretch the capability of the squad beyond its means on the pitch. That’s a very different argument to the quality of what we bring in during the window because of these hypothetical limitations.

Like I said, I’d have liked to see a striker come in and maybe even some depth in the squad too. But I’m not worried. We’ll win some games before January and we’ll lose some too. Hopefully we’ll get some rhythm going and see an improvement on last years level of performance but if any fans was expecting to see a striker delivered and a drastic change to immediately follow then I think they’re being unrealistic.

With any luck we can now focus on the football rather than who we didn’t bring in and I have every faith that the recruitment team will be preparing for January and making sure they can act swiftly based on everything we learn between now and then.
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If we can believe the ones in the know we were in for 3 players.

If they all signed I am sure we would be very near the top of the league come the end of season.

BUT

They all chose to sign for clubs in a higher league than us.

We can not blame them can we ? .

Don't believe we were after Hooper as he only signed for Colchester because his wife wanted to go home so I can not see her moving to GRIMSBY . and the commute is horrendous.


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Things could have gone better recently, no doubt.

Striker options do look very limited and that is questionable.

But, we have some real quality now. Think of the team from just over 2 years ago and compare that to what we have. Things are progressing, maybe not as quick as we'd like but c'mon, we are moving in the right direction, far more than all those years gone by.
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Very, very surprised we haven’t moved quickly to strengthen after the CV injury. It’s pretty clear he was a main part of our game plan for the season - tried to sign him in Jan, given him a long contract - and probably with an expectations of 10 - 12 goals from him and a good few assists. I try not to get over excited or over the top with gloom, but my outlook for the season has undoubtedly dipped. I don’t really get the Pyke and Gnahoua signings, Hopper would have made a lot more sense to play up top with Rose. A pacy wide player that with decent delivery is lacking. We look very reliant on Rose staying injury free and Wilson and Khan returning seamlessly to the squad without injury setback and we know football life isnt like that…
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Well that was expected . Did anyone realy believe Hurst would push the boat out for a striker and winger ,
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Quoted from gtfc_chris


Agree with what you’re saying, if recruitment within our means doesn’t bring in capable players to progress us then the positivity of the last two years will fade.

But can we call transfer windows “unacceptable” under that circumstance?

It’s one of the particulars we’ll never really be privy to in terms of knowing the financial ins and outs and how that compares to our competition but I’d imagine we’re somewhere around the mid-table mark.

If we are a mid table budget then a mid table finish is the theoretical expectation? To progress further means we have to stretch the capability of the squad beyond its means on the pitch. That’s a very different argument to the quality of what we bring in during the window because of these hypothetical limitations.

Like I said, I’d have liked to see a striker come in and maybe even some depth in the squad too. But I’m not worried. We’ll win some games before January and we’ll lose some too. Hopefully we’ll get some rhythm going and see an improvement on last years level of performance but if any fans was expecting to see a striker delivered and a drastic change to immediately follow then I think they’re being unrealistic.

With any luck we can now focus on the football rather than who we didn’t bring in and I have every faith that the recruitment team will be preparing for January and making sure they can act swiftly based on everything we learn between now and then.


Obviously we don't know the ins and outs of the recruitment system but what I do know is that no player will come if he has a better financial or career enhancing move elsewhere.

It is extremely unlikely our recruiters and manager will unearth gems that the rest of the football world aren't aware of so one way or another we have to increase our purchasing power.

Money rules at the end if the day, whether we want to become more sustainable or not.
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Terrible day and week as far as strengthening goes


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The scary thing is, despite the money me made from the FA cup run and 2 seasons of excellent season ticket sales, we just do not have the spending power to compete at the top end of the table. We can’t compete with Barrow, whose finances I have no idea of, but I know for a fact we get much better gates.

With the owners putting money in, the cup run and the best gate receipts for years I thought (perhaps naively)
we would be pushing for play offs at least. Maybe I’m overreacting, but this window has suggested that we are way off being able to compete anywhere near that level.

Are we destined to be a mid table 4th division club for the foreseeable future?


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Footballs gone to flipping excrement if a fourth tier club making the QFs of the FA Cup can’t afford a striker for the following season. Either that or we live in an unfortunately named craphole. It’s always one or the other and it’s boring.
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Andy Dallas on the move again… gone to Kilmarnock on loan for the season
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The scary thing is, despite the money me made from the FA cup run and 2 seasons of excellent season ticket sales, we just do not have the spending power to compete at the top end of the table. We can’t compete with Barrow, whose finances I have no idea of, but I know for a fact we get much better gates.

With the owners putting money in, the cup run and the best gate receipts for years I thought (perhaps naively)
we would be pushing for play offs at least. Maybe I’m overreacting, but this window has suggested that we are way off being able to compete anywhere near that level.

Are we destined to be a mid table 4th division club for the foreseeable future?


I'm afraid so unless we address the reality of the situation.

Even the heady heights of league 1 look a million miles away as the wages for players there are frightening.
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Got to admit that I'm both surprised and very disappointed with this, with CV getting injured and all the noises coming out of the club about being after several more players I expected as a minimum a young loanee squad filler type. And even that woukd  have been pretty disappointing.

Just have to hope that tactical changes or players returning from injury give us more threat going forward than we have had so far.
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Quoted from LH
Footballs gone to flipping excrement if a fourth tier club making the QFs of the FA Cup can’t afford a striker for the following season. Either that or we live in an unfortunately named craphole. It’s always one or the other and it’s boring.


Completely agree. I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with how football is going at our level. Our owners are rightfully trying to run our club in a sustainable manner. I seriously doubt many other clubs in our league are doing the same.

Is the bubble gonna burst for these teams throwing stupid money at our level, to the point that they end up like Scunny? I know what I want for Town, and that is for us to exist and not have the fear of losing our great club. Short term though, it drives me mad that we cannot progress despite how well we are doing off the field, with season ticket sales, investment and cup run! Just feels wrong to me.


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What the intercourse you going on about ? We spunked our money on a gold plated 3 year contract on vernam , like it or lump it that’s what we did. No good moaning about a lack of strike force when we signed rose , Pyke and Wilson , 3 strikers
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Looking at the number of unsold seats for tommorrow and the relatively slow sales for Bradford the sensible middle ground look to have made their minds up where we are going this year.


zzzzzzzzzz
coz it was so much better under jsf.
oh, for the good old days eh Herve?

you are as boring and predictable as white shorts with your posts

ps just looked at bbc ; think there were 30 deadline day deals involving league 2, that's basically 1 per club
so nobody else did big business either
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For comparison our line up for the first game after the transfer window closed last August.
Tweet 1566048434037080069 will appear here...


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Quoted from Lord Gadiform
For comparison our line up for the first game after the transfer window closed last August.
Tweet 1566048434037080069 will appear here...


I'd go as far to say as 5 positions have a better player in them this season.
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I still think we are light up top

But I suppose at least we are not just signing people for the sake of it .

We need a quality striker - the recruitment guy has 6 months to a year to pull a rabbit out of the hat , you would suggest that is the overwhelming priority for us to kick on .

Time to get to 50 points as quickly as possible , hopefully starting with 3 points today .
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Quoted from forza ivano


zzzzzzzzzz
coz it was so much better under jsf.
oh, for the good old days eh Herve?

you are as boring and predictable as white shorts with your posts

ps just looked at bbc ; think there were 30 deadline day deals involving league 2, that's basically 1 per club
so nobody else did big business either


Over 7k sold tomorrow ....not too bad .
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Signing to be announced just before 2pm today :')
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Monkeyboy most itk this time around.

Please no more transfer windows.
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Signing to be announced just before 2pm today :')


I know you've said that tongue in cheek but that would just so be a Town thing to do...
Although not publicised last night who's to actually say that pen wasn't put to paper before 11 or that extentions weren't requested?..
I don't know, maybe I am just that disgruntled and disappointed at such a poor deadline day knowing how light we are in places and having long term injuries, they I'm grasping at the shortest straw in living history.
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Wouldn't surprise me if Kane Jennings was announced this morning as we can still sign free agents I believe. Think signings have to be announced before noon to allow them to be involved in today's match squad.  Also is Josh Emmanual still a free agent?
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And can I just say a big congratulations to "It Bites" for being 100% incorrect again on incomings, well done Mr Consistent..🤣.
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I just can’t believe, since signing Conteh on 3rd July, the only outfield players we’ve signed are Gnahoua and then Andrews last week.
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I just can’t believe, since signing Conteh on 3rd July, the only outfield players we’ve signed are Gnahoua and then Andrews last week.


I can’t believe that, a month into the season, we’ll struggle to fill the bench today with four months until the window opens again.
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I can't believe despite getting all our signings in early we haven't used that time to find a way to get into the opposition box.
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I can't believe despite getting all our signings in early we haven't used that time to find a way to get into the opposition box.


I’m far more concerned about this than the lack of signings yesterday.
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Quoted from Stew0_0
Wouldn't surprise me if Kane Jennings was announced this morning as we can still sign free agents I believe. Think signings have to be announced before noon to allow them to be involved in today's match squad.  Also is Josh Emmanual still a free agent?


Think the deadline for registering players was 11am yesterday in order for them to be able to play today.

So even if we had snapped up a few deals late last night they wouldn't be eligible for today.

Look, it's not ideal and it's frustrating. But Hurst and his team know the gaps in the squad and just because the transfer window has closed it doesn't mean we won't be bringing bodies in over the next week or two.  The likes of Hemmings and countless others are still available to be picked up.

Let's see who we manage to bring in on a free transfer, then judge the recruitment as a whole.  Eastwood, Rodgers, Conteh, Mullarkey, Eisa and Rose are all upgrades. I maintain Vernam will come good, plus we've yet to see Wilson and Pyke properly.

The window seems to have gone from one everyone was raving about to a disaster on the back of failing to get signings in on this manufactured panic day.

I've said before that I get annoyed how we seem to miss out all the time. Be it location, finance, the club... People didn't want to seem to come here.  This summer looked to have bucked that trend with the signings of some really good and highly rated players. The last week or so we've struggled again, perhaps it's the inflated prices in the window that Hurst refuses to play... I don't know. But once the dust has settled I think we need to properly evaluate why we lost out on so many targets and factor it into the plans for future windows.  If we're not gonna pay silly prices, then we'll have to accept that and make sure we get every single bit of business done early.
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I think some folk perhaps need to calm down a little bit.


Time to resurrect my Fishy signature again. So here goes.

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I thought we had money in the bank from the cup run and the sale of Macatee - we surely haven't spent it on the signings we have made so we must have money left. Our gates are up on what we expected so we should have money available for slightly better players.
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I thought we had money in the bank from the cup run and the sale of Macatee - we surely haven't spent it on the signings we have made so we must have money left. Our gates are up on what we expected so we should have money available for slightly better players.


Not saying we spent it all.

But Conteh, Mullarkey and Eastwood came for a fee.

I don't think the actual budget is the issue. I think it's more that Hurst spends it like it's his own money.  I respect that but we're easy to blow out the water when it comes to a bidding war.

Some of the money getting chucked about is stupid, but there has to be a point when you do gamble a bit.
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It’s telling that even Wrexham didn’t manage to bring in a striker yesterday.
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They signed Armstrong from Harrogate last minute didn't they? Hopefully they screwed them for an inflated fee.
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Let's be honest. Conteh is excellent. If we spent a big part of the budget on him then I'm all for it. He's going to make us a big profit if he continues.
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They signed Armstrong from Harrogate last minute didn't they? Hopefully Hopefully screwed them for an inflated fee.


Not yet clear whether the registration was done in time. Would be quite amusing if it wasn’t.


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Quoted from lukeo
Let's be honest. Conteh is excellent. If we spent a big part of the budget on him then I'm all for it. He's going to make us a big profit if he continues.


Yes, Conteh is excellent but we’ve got a squad of 23 I believe. Two are long term injured and another two are on the way back from at least a month out. All the junior pros seem to be loaned out as well. I hope there are a few decent free agents out there but they will probably not be match ready either. Let’s also not forget that Conteh will miss games due to international duty starting next weekend.
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Ah, made a sharp object of myself there then. Again.
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I’m not particularly surprised we didn’t bring anyone in & not particularly disappointed either.  I think the squad has far more quality than last season & for those saying we’ve not brought in a striker again, we brought in 3 - Rose, Pyke and Wilson.
I don’t get the histrionics, it’s like the guy in front on me at Walsall, calling for Hurst’s head after 3 minutes.  Give them a chance to show what they can do!  There was a kid near me who said we needed to play better football like we did under Michael Jolley …… LOL 😂
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I can't believe despite getting all our signings in early we haven't used that time to find a way to get into the opposition box.


This and the fact we’re already struggling to put a decent bench out is so frustrating. If one of the wingers (if we play that way today) has a poor game or gets injured we have no like for like replacement. And so far we’ve had one fit striker, I’ve never known Hurst only have three strikers in a squad before and it’s exacerbated by two being injured.

Nobody is doubting that we’ve signed some individually good players. Rodgers is probably the best centre back we’ve had for a decade and Conteh the best midfielder for the same length of time, plus he’s so young. Rose, Eisa, Mullarkey and Eastwood are also good players and are upgrades.

However, the squad as a whole still has some massive glaring gaps in it:
- Strength in depth. We’re already showing that a couple of injuries or suspensions puts us down to the bare bones.
- Pace. The squad is incredibly one paced. Hopefully Wilson might change that but even then it’s really not brilliant to be totally reliant on one player for having any pace. I really thought we might have got someone else in, even on loan, particularly with Vernam being long term injured now.
- Left back. We all know that neither Glennon or Amos are consistently good enough for a team looking to get promoted out of this league. I appreciate it sounds like we were trying to get something in but it’s still frustrating.
- Height. None of our attacking players are even approaching being tall. Rose is very good in the air for his size but considering our difficulty in creating chances, just having someone with a bit of presence that would allow a change in tactics is surely worth having? As it stands we can’t go long or get in behind them.
- Central midfield quality on the ball. This was a problem last season and although Conteh is a very good player I still think it’s below most teams. None of Holohan, Hunt, Green or Clifton are good enough with the ball to control a game against good opposition. When we don’t have the physical attributes to stretch these sides behind either, you can see why our expected goals has been so low. We can’t go over it, we can’t get behind it and we can’t get through it. Leaves us reliant on Eisa rockets from 25 yards which is very worrying.

I’m pleased we got in some good players early and have at least one, in Conteh, who we might well sell for s good profit. But if the squad we’ve built with all the positives going for us (record season tickets, huge unexpected FA cup money, sales of various players in the last couple of years, increased commercial income) still has this many pretty basic flaws then what does that say about our long term hopes? L2 mid table battlers for the rest of time? That would be extremely sad.
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Let's be honest. Conteh is excellent. If we spent a big part of the budget on him then I'm all for it. He's going to make us a big profit if he continues.


You’re right. It’s where the money goes when we sell him that concerns me.
Win today and everyone will be happier. Lose with no goals scored and there’s going to be a lot of angry people tonight.
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Cue a 4-0 win .


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Quoted from louth_in_the_south
Cue a 4-0 win .


I'd take 1-0 now - cue a Hurst tactical masterclass!
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Think Dom Vose was touting himself about as fit and ready to go and having plenty to offer earlier in the season? Free agent maybe..


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Quoted from Brummie Codfather
I’m not particularly surprised we didn’t bring anyone in & not particularly disappointed either.  I think the squad has far more quality than last season & for those saying we’ve not brought in a striker again, we brought in 3 - Rose, Pyke and Wilson.
I don’t get the histrionics, it’s like the guy in front on me at Walsall, calling for Hurst’s head after 3 minutes.  Give them a chance to show what they can do!  There was a kid near me who said we needed to play better football like we did under Michael Jolley …… LOL 😂


I've always believed football is just a pantomime for grown ups. We have a hero (Our team, a manager, a player), a villain (Opposition, official, our team, manager or player) and adventures along the way (matches, cup runs, transfer windows).

In our panto though, some Town fans seem to spend most of the time (if not all the time!) finding the villain within our own club! We always seem to need a boo boy, recently this has been Harry. A few, seemed hopeful that he may leave and when that was looking unlikely he is subject to mindless digs about his performances. Yes, I know local lads shouldn't be immune from criticism. But Harry, is really so bad he is being singled out??

Then there is Hurst and his perceived inability to sign anyone on the last day of business, when only a couple of months ago many were praising him for getting his business done early and the quality of the signings.

The owners and Debbie have been subject to criticism, despite the positive changes that have happened since they arrived. We even turn on ourselves as you flick through these pages.

Unfortunately, the stick I used to beat Hurst with all those years ago, desperate to see the back of him, was in fact correct. Maybe some Town fans ARE spoilt, because of some of our behaviours are just like the spoilt brats who lay on the floor screaming and yelling because we haven't been given the next shiny object to play with (and eventually discard)! And as for Hurst being dour? That's just the pantomime some Town fans choose to create.

Lets just get 100% behind all the team and the club. Let the constant (by some) critisism stop and enjoy having a local club, run by local people, placed firmly at the centre of our community. UTMM!!
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I’m actually pleased that we haven’t these over exaggerated owners throwing bundles of cash everywhere. We will come good, loads of clubs at our level will lose out because not all can get promoted. This will be the tortoise and the hare race for us to get over the line in better shape
Hopefully our squad will grow stronger as the season progresses
UTM!


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I`m not sure if it was noted elsewhere but Andy Dallas was loaned to Kilmarnock yesterday after signing for Barnsley this summer.


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This and the fact we’re already struggling to put a decent bench out is so frustrating. If one of the wingers (if we play that way today) has a poor game or gets injured we have no like for like replacement. And so far we’ve had one fit striker, I’ve never known Hurst only have three strikers in a squad before and it’s exacerbated by two being injured.

Nobody is doubting that we’ve signed some individually good players. Rodgers is probably the best centre back we’ve had for a decade and Conteh the best midfielder for the same length of time, plus he’s so young. Rose, Eisa, Mullarkey and Eastwood are also good players and are upgrades.

However, the squad as a whole still has some massive glaring gaps in it:
- Strength in depth. We’re already showing that a couple of injuries or suspensions puts us down to the bare bones.
- Pace. The squad is incredibly one paced. Hopefully Wilson might change that but even then it’s really not brilliant to be totally reliant on one player for having any pace. I really thought we might have got someone else in, even on loan, particularly with Vernam being long term injured now.
- Left back. We all know that neither Glennon or Amos are consistently good enough for a team looking to get promoted out of this league. I appreciate it sounds like we were trying to get something in but it’s still frustrating.
- Height. None of our attacking players are even approaching being tall. Rose is very good in the air for his size but considering our difficulty in creating chances, just having someone with a bit of presence that would allow a change in tactics is surely worth having? As it stands we can’t go long or get in behind them.
- Central midfield quality on the ball. This was a problem last season and although Conteh is a very good player I still think it’s below most teams. None of Holohan, Hunt, Green or Clifton are good enough with the ball to control a game against good opposition. When we don’t have the physical attributes to stretch these sides behind either, you can see why our expected goals has been so low. We can’t go over it, we can’t get behind it and we can’t get through it. Leaves us reliant on Eisa rockets from 25 yards which is very worrying.

I’m pleased we got in some good players early and have at least one, in Conteh, who we might well sell for s good profit. But if the squad we’ve built with all the positives going for us (record season tickets, huge unexpected FA cup money, sales of various players in the last couple of years, increased commercial income) still has this many pretty basic flaws then what does that say about our long term hopes? L2 mid table battlers for the rest of time? That would be extremely sad.


Add to that one or two are horribly out of form and some have just been disappointing particularly Hunt.

As I think Ginny alludes to though, it doesn’t matter how bleak things look Hurst has a habit of somehow sorting it out so we will have to hang our hat on that positive.
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Very, very surprised we haven’t moved quickly to strengthen after the CV injury. It’s pretty clear he was a main part of our game plan for the season - tried to sign him in Jan, given him a long contract - and probably with an expectations of 10 - 12 goals from him and a good few assists. I try not to get over excited or over the top with gloom, but my outlook for the season has undoubtedly dipped. I don’t really get the Pyke and Gnahoua signings, Hopper would have made a lot more sense to play up top with Rose. A pacy wide player that with decent delivery is lacking. We look very reliant on Rose staying injury free and Wilson and Khan returning seamlessly to the squad without injury setback and we know football life isnt like that…


How many matches have we seen them play, give them a chance FFS.  Oh and Pike scored two goals the other night.

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Well that was expected . Did anyone realy believe Hurst would push the boat out for a striker and winger ,


What was expected was that you would come up with your usual nonsensical post.

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I`m not sure if it was noted elsewhere but Andy Dallas was loaned to Kilmarnock yesterday after signing for Barnsley this summer.


Was mentioned earlier, not really sure what is up with that lad, turned us down twice apparently, seemed to be up for Chesterfield til they fell at the finish, got his way with a league 1 move, scored first game, didn't get off the bench for next game then up to jockland. Also disrespected Cambridge fans with crowd number comparisons while saying 'no disrespect' .
Avoid, would be my take on him.
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Obviously we don't know the ins and outs of the recruitment system but what I do know is that no player will come if he has a better financial or career enhancing move elsewhere.

It is extremely unlikely our recruiters and manager will unearth gems that the rest of the football world aren't aware of so one way or another we have to increase our purchasing power.

Money rules at the end if the day, whether we want to become more sustainable or not.


Have you got a few million to put in the pot?

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Footballs gone to flipping excrement if a fourth tier club making the QFs of the FA Cup can’t afford a striker for the following season. Either that or we live in an unfortunately named craphole. It’s always one or the other and it’s boring.


We have invested a fair amount of money this season so far, and for a guess I would say we had money put aside for a striker too, but maybe other clubs had more money to splash on a striker, and good ones are few and far between, so don't you think it's a possibility that any striker we have been in for has accepted a higher offer that we couldn't compete with?  We can only up the anti so far, and if other clubs go over that, then we are out.

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Quoted from wembley_double98
I’m actually pleased that we haven’t these over exaggerated owners throwing bundles of cash everywhere. We will come good, loads of clubs at our level will lose out because not all can get promoted. This will be the tortoise and the hare race for us to get over the line in better shape
Hopefully our squad will grow stronger as the season progresses
UTM!


The club mirrors the Town in that we don’t have loads of money sloshing around, and the only way we will be successful is through hard work, grit and determination.

We have genuinely decent people that own, run the club and manage the team. Honestly, each to their own and I’m well aware a lot won’t agree, but that is paramount in importantance to me. I support the club because Im obsessed and enjoy it…whether we’re successful on the pitch or not.

A lot of Town fans online, like most other clubs I imagine are super reactionary to results mainly. If we’d have won the last two matches I don’t imagine there would have been the same reaction to deadline day. If we lose a few matches it’s hate filled vitriol, arguing g and overreacting, if we win it’s happy days and we’re getting promoted.


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Think the deadline for registering players was 11am yesterday in order for them to be able to play today.

So even if we had snapped up a few deals late last night they wouldn't be eligible for today.

Look, it's not ideal and it's frustrating. But Hurst and his team know the gaps in the squad and just because the transfer window has closed it doesn't mean we won't be bringing bodies in over the next week or two.  The likes of Hemmings and countless others are still available to be picked up.

Let's see who we manage to bring in on a free transfer, then judge the recruitment as a whole.  Eastwood, Rodgers, Conteh, Mullarkey, Eisa and Rose are all upgrades. I maintain Vernam will come good, plus we've yet to see Wilson and Pyke properly.

The window seems to have gone from one everyone was raving about to a disaster on the back of failing to get signings in on this manufactured panic day.

I've said before that I get annoyed how we seem to miss out all the time. Be it location, finance, the club... People didn't want to seem to come here.  This summer looked to have bucked that trend with the signings of some really good and highly rated players. The last week or so we've struggled again, perhaps it's the inflated prices in the window that Hurst refuses to play... I don't know. But once the dust has settled I think we need to properly evaluate why we lost out on so many targets and factor it into the plans for future windows.  If we're not gonna pay silly prices, then we'll have to accept that and make sure we get every single bit of business done early.


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I thought we had money in the bank from the cup run and the sale of Macatee - we surely haven't spent it on the signings we have made so we must have money left. Our gates are up on what we expected so we should have money available for slightly better players.


How do you know this, do you have solid proof?

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The club mirrors the Town in that we don’t have loads of money sloshing around, and the only way we will be successful is through hard work, grit and determination.

We have genuinely decent people that own, run the club and manage the team. Honestly, each to their own and I’m well aware a lot won’t agree, but that is paramount in importantance to me. I support the club because Im obsessed and enjoy it…whether we’re successful on the pitch or not.

A lot of Town fans online, like most other clubs I imagine are super reactionary to results mainly. If we’d have won the last two matches I don’t imagine there would have been the same reaction to deadline day. If we lose a few matches it’s hate filled vitriol, arguing g and overreacting, if we win it’s happy days and we’re getting promoted.


You make football fans sound bipolar lol. Seriously though football is all a lot of us have to look forward to and over reacting is part of the fun . I love a good rant and moan but as Del Boy found out , it’s the chase that’s the fun and excitement, that includes highs and lows .
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Have you got a few million to put in the pot?



No but neither am I in reality Lew Chatterley's lover. The owners have repeatedly talked about new investment into the club and without it both on and off the field it will be difficult.
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No but neither am I in reality Lew Chatterley's lover. The owners have repeatedly talked about new investment into the club and without it both on and off the field it will be difficult.


There's no doubt we have signed several improvements to our squad but the fact that Ben Davies came out and said that more additions were expected only 24 hours ago underlines the fact that we've missed out on targets. As pointed out elsewhere, we've only signed Andrews and Gnahoua since Conteh signed two months ago and, either we're still 'unattractive little old Grimsby' or we're still not prepared to match what others are in terms of cash.

It's all well and good investing in a better recruitment process but it does rely on you getting in some of the targets he identifies.
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There's no doubt we have signed several improvements to our squad but the fact that Ben Davies came out and said that more additions were expected only 24 hours ago underlines the fact that we've missed out on targets. As pointed out elsewhere, we've only signed Andrews and Gnahoua since Conteh signed two months ago and, either we're still 'unattractive little old Grimsby' or we're still not prepared to match what others are in terms of cash.

It's all well and good investing in a better recruitment process but it does rely on you getting in some of the targets he identifies.


Or the other teams could be in a higher division or the player live near to where they’ve gone.


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Let's take a breath on the transfer window .

We have had a great 2 years , things are bound to slow down at some point , we are likely in a period of consolidation ( although I still think if we get everyone fit and firing we have an outside shot at the play-offs) league 2 is financially silly and like others I want to just go right through it and to league 1 . I think we just have to trust 'continuous improvement' and that it will get us to league one , just maybe not in the timeframe some expect .

I do think we have the finance and organisation to get there in the next 1-5 years , apart from the cups though and getting there what can we actually achieve ?

Better infrastructure , improved BP , disabled facilities and the training ground are all things I would like to see and increasing engagement of younger fans .

We have improved the PA system by the sounds of it , which is another tick in the box for the current custodians .

I would be happy with the continued improvement off the pitch and top half of league 2 for now ; I do get for some it's 'what happens on the pitch ' that's the be all and end all , I respect that view and you are paying every week to watch it .

It's all quite a nuanced argument and there is no right or wrong answer , people abuse Hurst; some understand the situation (and still think we should have better players ) and some are happy with their lot and labelled 'happy clappers'.

I do try and see it from all sides , and do understand people's views .

Let's enjoy today

We could be Reading , Morecambe , our neighbours , Fleetwood and various other and have actual worries for our clubs future rather than what's going on , on the pitch .

3rd Saturday game running we have sold 7k+ tickets , bloody good for a team that used to get 5k in The Championship !

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Kane Hemmings signs for Stevenage, so any hopes that he may sign for us outside the transfer window are dashed
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Kane Hemmings signs for Stevenage, so any hopes that he may sign for us outside the transfer window are dashed


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I think if we can get Khan and Wilson fit we’ll have much better options
Guess is that PH could have had a couple of make weight loanees but chose to wait for quality, especially given the experience with O’Neill et al last season
Its frustrating but if your first choices are going to league one it gives me a positive feeling that we’re looking forward
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Kieran Sadlier had his contract cancelled with Bolton yesterday, pretty sure he's a player we've been after before
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Can we still sign loanees?


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Can we still sign loanees?


As many as we like. In January.


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Given our injury situation and the stated position that the squad needs some more players….to add no more is really disappointing.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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Feel for Harrogate and the player himself, but I'm sure they've bagged themselves a decent documentary episode out of it all.
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Given our injury situation and the stated position that the squad needs some more players….to add no more is really disappointing.


It is.. but working with a smaller squad will mean all of the players will get more minutes, be more engaged and be more match ready. A bit of a tightrope, but a more unified squad may just work in our favour..Can't think of a single player that can't step in and do a job. In unity there's strength.. Far too early to even comtemplate writing our season off. We'll still be very competitive..

Free agent window still very much open too..
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Feel for Harrogate and the player himself, but I'm sure they've bagged themselves a decent documentary episode out of it all.


Harrogate perhaps, but Armstrong can get fúcked. Refused to play earlier in the season. It’s quite amusing to my mind.


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There's no doubt we have signed several improvements to our squad but the fact that Ben Davies came out and said that more additions were expected only 24 hours ago underlines the fact that we've missed out on targets. As pointed out elsewhere, we've only signed Andrews and Gnahoua since Conteh signed two months ago and, either we're still 'unattractive little old Grimsby' or we're still not prepared to match what others are in terms of cash.

It's all well and good investing in a better recruitment process but it does rely on you getting in some of the targets he identifies.


Or not able to, do you think we have a bottomless well of money?

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I have been saying this since about 2016, but I feel we need to look in Scotland.

I recommended Kevin Nisbet who was banging in goals for fun for Raith Rovers, he then later moved onto Hibs for £200,000 roughly and having played for Scotland, he was sold in the summer for 2 million plus to Millwall; and has just scored his second goal in 2 weeks.

Another posted mentioned Lawrence Shankland at Ayr, who scored loads of goals for them; and now plays for Hearts, where I believe he has now score 25,

The player I now recommend is Tommy Goss, born in England but last season his 27 goals in 42 games, fired Annan Athletic into Scottish division 1. OK he will be raw, but he is a brute of a man, who plays number 9; and he has been injured at the start of the season, but he is back and could be someone to watch for January.


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No but neither am I in reality Lew Chatterley's lover. The owners have repeatedly talked about new investment into the club and without it both on and off the field it will be difficult.


The problem is, how do you force people into investing into the club if they don't feel inclined to?  A mid table 4th Division club is hardly an attractive opportunity.

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Quoted from jamesgtfc


Feel for Harrogate and the player himself, but I'm sure they've bagged themselves a decent documentary episode out of it all.


Can almost imagine the cameras rolling as they wait until the last 30 seconds to make the signing, dramatic music composed and  ready to slide in to this sequence for the Hollywood touch, and their internet stutters.
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Who was the guy that was moaning on here yesterday that ticket sales were well down for today and saying that it showed supporters were unhappy in general?  We've sold 7,000 mate!
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Quoted from Davec
Kane Hemmings signs for Stevenage, so any hopes that he may sign for us outside the transfer window are dashed


I'm afraid that we have to accept the unpalatable truth, better players want to play for ambitious, successful, forward thinking clubs and that's why Kane Hemmings and Charlie McNeill have signed for Stevenage. They are currently a better side than us and are managed by a better manager than we have in Steve Evans. I find it amazing that there are posters on here who have stated publicly that they would no longer attend games at Blundell Park with Evans in charge, people for whom their dislike of a manger is deemed more important that the progression of their own club, ridiculous !!!!!!!
I used to find it amazing that some of our fans even disliked Buckley and look what fabulous footballing sides he produced. I'm afraid that we have to accept that we are "little old Grimsby" and as such must leave potential future success to the so called "big guns" of the division such as Barrow, Accrington Stanley and Salford ! The good old days have long gone and I see no signs of them returning any time soon. Mid to lower end league 2 obscurity beckons with Hurst's ultra negative tactics, (if you can call them tactics) and I'm afraid we could be waiting for some time for them to return.


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Quoted from Sir Matt Tease

They are currently a better side than us and are managed by a better manager than we have in Steve Evans. I find it amazing that there are posters on here who have stated publicly that they would no longer attend games at Blundell Park with Evans in charge, people for whom their dislike of a manger is deemed more important that the progression of their own club, ridiculous !!!!!!!


As I keep saying, there is stuff about Evans that isn’t in the public domain. That’s on top of all the stuff that is.

I can cope with him being a twât. I can even forgive the fraud. It’s the other non-football stuff that’s the problem.

I mean, I don’t like Graham Westley or Neil Warnock or Jose Mourinho but I’d support them if it meant we got three points. Evans on the other hand, no chance. He should be back in prison and certainly doesn’t belong in football.
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I'm afraid that we have to accept the unpalatable truth, better players want to play for ambitious, successful, forward thinking clubs and that's why Kane Hemmings and Charlie McNeill have signed for Stevenage. They are currently a better side than us and are managed by a better manager than we have in Steve Evans. I find it amazing that there are posters on here who have stated publicly that they would no longer attend games at Blundell Park with Evans in charge, people for whom their dislike of a manger is deemed more important that the progression of their own club, ridiculous !!!!!!!
I used to find it amazing that some of our fans even disliked Buckley and look what fabulous footballing sides he produced. I'm afraid that we have to accept that we are "little old Grimsby" and as such must leave potential future success to the so called "big guns" of the division such as Barrow, Accrington Stanley and Salford ! The good old days have long gone and I see no signs of them returning any time soon. Mid to lower end league 2 obscurity beckons with Hurst's ultra negative tactics, (if you can call them tactics) and I'm afraid we could be waiting for some time for them to return.




So is 2-0 at HT good enough for you?

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Who was the guy that was moaning on here yesterday that ticket sales were well down for today and saying that it showed supporters were unhappy in general?  We've sold 7,000 mate!


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Who was the guy that was moaning on here yesterday that ticket sales were well down for today and saying that it showed supporters were unhappy in general?  We've sold 7,000 mate!


The gate is 6479 so 500+ failed to turn up.



You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
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The gate is 6479 so 500+ failed to turn up.



I certainly did not see 2000 empty seats today. Well dodgy!
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The gate is 6479 so 500+ failed to turn up.



The scoreboard said 6749, so I presume the announcer got his numbers mixed up. Unless the scoreboard operator got it mixed up of course, but worth checking with the club if in doubt.
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I see McNeill scored on his debut for Stevenage.
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I certainly did not see 2000 empty seats today. Well dodgy!


7k+ in for sure

At 2pm 7400 sold
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Don't shoot the messenger. The figures are as per JT and Towns Twitter.


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Loads of empty seats behind the goal!


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I had 3 next to me empty in the Upper, on hols apparently
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I released mine and it was resold so wonder if they count it twice?
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I released mine and it was resold so wonder if they count it twice?


Don't they only count season tickets if they turn up so would have been counted just the once?
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Luke Armstrong transfer to Wrexham was not approved by the EFL.  The paperwork did not go through in time.

  Real shame for them.  Especially as we play them soon. 😄. That is 2 strikers missing for them then.  Losing out on a second one sounds like carelessness.  
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Armstrong might well be very unhappy now. Saw him play a few weeks ago when he came on as sub against FGR. He had the body language of a player who didn’t want to be there. He did nothing and received boos from his own supporters. Seemed he wanted away and now he’s stuck in a tricky situation in a very poor team.


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Bye, bye, thread, have a good rest until January 2024. !!
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I’ve let all you pretenders have your day in the sun and fail.
Incoming tomorrow might be announced Tuesday before the Barnsley game.
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That'll be an underwhelming round of applause for the lad.


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I’ve let all you pretenders have your day in the sun and fail.
Incoming tomorrow might be announced Tuesday before the Barnsley game.


Any names?

Kieran Sadlier is a free agent and has done well at league 1 before for Donny, can play on the wing and left back so he would provide some versatility, could be a target?
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I’ve let all you pretenders have your day in the sun and fail.
Incoming tomorrow might be announced Tuesday before the Barnsley game.


Hmmm, brand new poster? Presumably , given the nature of the post  it's actually It Bites under a new moniker😅😅
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I’ve let all you pretenders have your day in the sun and fail.
Incoming tomorrow might be announced Tuesday before the Barnsley game.


Hope you is right. . Welcome new poster . Be carefull the natives on here dont like anyone with a different view to them.  They have to be right or they throw their toys out the pram at you.  
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Quoted from Davec


Any names?

Kieran Sadlier is a free agent and has done well at league 1 before for Donny, can play on the wing and left back so he would provide some versatility, could be a target?


No names yet as he hasn’t officially signed his contract, on the way up today to sign. He’s a behind the striker type player though.
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Sadlier wanted by 3 L1 clubs apparently, including Orient and Cambridge.


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He’s a behind the striker type player though.


Midfielder, defender or keeper then. Ross Hannah being the only player to consistently play beyond the strikers.
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He can’t transfer to Wrexham. Not unless they want to have another go in January. He’s a Harrogate player.


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He can’t transfer to Wrexham. Not unless they want to have another go in January. He’s a Harrogate player.


Rumour has it that they registered with the Welsh FA in time as their deadline is 12am  So they think they have signed him now.  However, I don't see how that works as surely he has to be registered with the English FA as it is their rules he will be playing under.

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Seemingly correct.


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I suspect Harrogate dragged their feet, given the way Armstrong has conducted himself.
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I suspect Harrogate dragged their feet, given the way Armstrong has conducted himself.


I don’t think it’s a great situation for them, though, is it? I’m not sure how accurate the rumours of a £500k fee were, but you can imagine it will have been a sizeable dollop of cash that will have been heading their way.

Now they’re stuck with a wantaway player until January at the earliest, with all of the knock-on effect that can have on squad harmony, especially given that he will remain their highest paid player. And then, is he still worth half-a-million in January (if he ever was)? Another 6-months off his contract, another 6-months older. I think it’s an absolute mess for all concerned.


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Gwion Edwards is available as a free agent, played under Hurst at Shrewsbury, but looking at his pedigree he may be hoping for a league 1 club
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I suspect Harrogate dragged their feet, given the way Armstrong has conducted himself.


That’s up there with crocombe shithousery


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"100% staged for the documentary.
Except it was meant to go through last minute and it went wrong."

Taken from the Wrexham Forum.  Possible?
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Quoted from Davec
Gwion Edwards is available as a free agent, played under Hurst at Shrewsbury, but looking at his pedigree he may be hoping for a league 1 club


Linked with Bristol Rovers back in June. Would say there would be a few league 1 clubs interested. But, I guess never say never


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he's also a winger, the chap who's posted said that this new signing is a number 10
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Seems Wrexham eventually bid the asking price for Armstrong (£500K).  Fought off a big bid from MK Dons.  They are appealing the transfer not being approved by the EFL


Bristol Rovers had a club record if £800K plus add-ons accepted for Clarke-Harris from Posh.

Guess what?  The EFL would not allow the transfer to go through as the deal was not registered in time.
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Default Re: Armstrong registration rejected

"100% staged for the documentary.
Except it was meant to go through last minute and it went wrong."

Taken from the Wrexham Forum.  Possible?


If they can edit Bake Off: The Professionals to make it look like two people can erect a 6ft-croquembouche in 1 minute, I’m sure they could’ve done the same with Shaun Harvey trying to send an email.

Not saying they didn’t do the above, but would be very stupid/funny. Imagine if Armstrong gets a bad injury or walks under a bus now.
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😂


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There’s no way he’s worth half a million anyway, so well done to Harrogate for exploiting Wrexham, even though it’s fallen through.  


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Quoted from ska face


If they can edit Bake Off: The Professionals to make it look like two people can erect a 6ft-croquembouche in 1 minute, I’m sure they could’ve done the same with Shaun Harvey trying to send an email.

Not saying they didn’t do the above, but would be very stupid/funny. Imagine if Armstrong gets a bad injury or walks under a bus now.


The first and only time "croquembouche" appears on The Fishy?


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If he's worth half a million Conteh must be worth 2mil already .
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Looks like Wrexham are gonna be in a bit of trouble anyway, given they tried to tap up Brandon Hanlan from Wycombe. Given Chelsea got a two window ban for that, i'd expect a similar sort of punishment for them. The lad we're in talks with is Tom Pett, apparently being shown around today
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The first and only time "croquembouche" appears on The Fishy?


Harrogate obviously haven’t profiteroled from the sale


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Looks like Wrexham are gonna be in a bit of trouble anyway, given they tried to tap up Brandon Hanlan from Wycombe. Given Chelsea got a two window ban for that, i'd expect a similar sort of punishment for them. The lad we're in talks with is Tom Pett, apparently being shown around today


Hope that's true a very good player - remember him at Lincoln , and played loads of games in league 1 last season - thought he was a holding midfielder though ?
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Looks like Wrexham are gonna be in a bit of trouble anyway, given they tried to tap up Brandon Hanlan from Wycombe. Given Chelsea got a two window ban for that, i'd expect a similar sort of punishment for them. The lad we're in talks with is Tom Pett, apparently being shown around today


It’s gonna end in heartbreak


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thought he was a holding midfielder though ?


Hopefully he will be able to release conteh into a more attacking role.
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Hope that's true a very good player - remember him at Lincoln , and played loads of games in league 1 last season - thought he was a holding midfielder though ?


This isn't in connection with what's already been said, I've just been told he's being shown around. Not sure he's ' signed ' so to speak as there's a few interested in him. With Conteh leaving on international duty a few times this season and Greens injury, it makes sense to have another body in there.
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It’s gonna end in heartbreak


Saw what you did there.


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The lad we're in talks with is Tom Pett, apparently being shown around today


According to that extremely reliable source Wikipedia his partner is the ManU player Hannah Blundell.....is that an omen.


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According to that extremely reliable source Wikipedia his partner is the ManU player Hannah Blundell.....is that an omen.


It’s obviously written all over his face


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If he is not fixed up think it would be worthwile giving Josh Emmanual a phone call.


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But we don't need a right-back and he's not really a winger?
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If he is not fixed up think it would be worthwile giving Josh Emmanual a phone call.


as i say every time his name is brought up, I saw nothing from him that justifies the fanfare he seems to get, we also dont need a right back who would ask for quite a large wage
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I've cast my scouting eye on transfermarkt and plucked players that are either out of our ordinary range but who might take a chance on us or from our division who might be an unexpected success. There has been no further check on injuries, history or anything like that, just some good old fashioned Football Manager 'free transfer' filter going on. Also, I tried to only pick out players who are attack minded wingers/10/forwards.

Yanic Wildschut
Gwion Edwards
Junior Hoilett
Gary Madine
Kieran Sadlier
Lloyd Isgrove
Sam Winnall
Connor Wickham
Sammy Ameobi
Isaac Vassell
Joseph Dodoo
Oumar Niasse
Tom Elliott
Kieran Agard
Freddie Sears
Ben Reeves

If any of these end up at BP then I insist on taking a place within the Clubs scouting team with a working from home position.
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Quoted from gtfc_chris
I've cast my scouting eye on transfermarkt and plucked players that are either out of our ordinary range but who might take a chance on us or from our division who might be an unexpected success. There has been no further check on injuries, history or anything like that, just some good old fashioned Football Manager 'free transfer' filter going on. Also, I tried to only pick out players who are attack minded wingers/10/forwards.

Yanic Wildschut
Gwion Edwards
Junior Hoilett
Gary Madine
Kieran Sadlier
Lloyd Isgrove
Sam Winnall
Connor Wickham
Sammy Ameobi
Isaac Vassell
Joseph Dodoo
Oumar Niasse
Tom Elliott
Kieran Agard
Freddie Sears
Ben Reeves

If any of these end up at BP then I insist on taking a place within the Clubs scouting team with a working from home position.


None of those on your list is the player I was told is signing today. It’s also not Tom Pett. Although I’m not saying he’s not in talks. The player I was told has a promotion from this league on his CV (that’s not his initials)
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None of those on your list is the player I was told is signing today. It’s also not Tom Pett. Although I’m not saying he’s not in talks. The player I was told has a promotion from this league on his CV (that’s not his initials)


Well you might as well just tell us then! a correct answer from you guarantees you promotion in Ska's table
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Well you might as well just tell us then! a correct answer from you guarantees you promotion in Ska's table


The good thing about the transfer window closing is that it narrows down prospective signings to free agents, in turn making it easier to work through an ITK poster’s cryptic clues or confirm them as bullshít merhants respectively.

Callum Ainley, most recently of Crewe, would at least fit the bill of “promoted from League Two”.


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The good thing about the transfer window closing is that it narrows down prospective signings to free agents, in turn making it easier to work through an ITK poster’s cryptic clues or confirm them as bullshít merhants respectively.

Callum Ainley, most recently of Crewe, would at least fit the bill of “promoted from League Two”.


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Ainley really doesn't strike me as a Hurst type player. Crewe fans don't seem to rate him at all...let's hope if it happens Hurst has still got some of that magic dust he sprinkled on Jon Nolan as it seems a bit like one of those signings.
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He's played nearly 250 games for them so someone obviously rated him.
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He's played nearly 250 games for them so someone obviously rated him.

Crewe is probably the single best club in the whole of the professional setup in this country in terms of giving youngsters time though, isn't it? Think he was good early on but then never really kicked on. They obviously rated him very highly as they turned down 350k for him apparently but you'll be hard pushed to find a Crewe fan that says much positive about his final few seasons there. I'm obviously not saying he wouldn't be a good signing though, I really don't know a lot about him, just reporting what I've read/been told. He might well flourish under different management and just need a fresh start. One thing is for sure and that's that he's definitely in the rough diamond category. He turned down Chesterfield, presumably because he doesn't want to drop to the NL which indicates a bit of ambition.
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Crewe is probably the single best club in the whole of the professional setup in this country in terms of giving youngsters time though, isn't it?


Crewe is probably the single best club in the whole of the professional setup in this country in terms of giving youngsters coaches who are now doing time though, isn't it?
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This isn't in connection with what's already been said, I've just been told he's being shown around. Not sure he's ' signed ' so to speak as there's a few interested in him. With Conteh leaving on international duty a few times this season and Greens injury, it makes sense to have another body in there.


If he's a defensive midfielder and IF (big if) we are signing him cos conteh is on international duty for a game or two and green is injured for a couple more weeks then surely that would mean Hunts time with us is done. It would mean Hurst couldn't even trust him for a couple of weeks whilst conteh is away. There'd be no point keeping him and a loan to NL would surely beckon when green is back.

That would seem v surprising given a few weeks ago he was our choice to be in the starting 11 at the beginning of the season.

I know a role further forward for him has been mooted by some (including myself) but we've just gone and signed Andrews for that so looks like Hurst doesn't see Hunt as an answer in that position.
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Hunt isn't a defensive midfielder, though, is he? He's not getting picked at present, but that might change if we get Wilson fit and we end up playing with two up top, or if we tweak the formation.

As it stands, I think the performance on Saturday has cemented Holohan's place in the team for a while at least, so if we keep a similar formation when Conteh is absent, I think we're more likely to see Andrews coming into the middle.
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keep it going lads, we're nearly at 4000 posts for a transfer window that finished last week!
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Crewe is probably the single best club in the whole of the professional setup in this country in terms of giving youngsters time though, isn't it? Think he was good early on but then never really kicked on. They obviously rated him very highly as they turned down 350k for him apparently but you'll be hard pushed to find a Crewe fan that says much positive about his final few seasons there. I'm obviously not saying he wouldn't be a good signing though, I really don't know a lot about him, just reporting what I've read/been told. He might well flourish under different management and just need a fresh start. One thing is for sure and that's that he's definitely in the rough diamond category. He turned down Chesterfield, presumably because he doesn't want to drop to the NL which indicates a bit of ambition.


Can the term ‘rough diamond’ be applied to a 25 year old who has made over 250 appearances for a club? Including a few seasons in league one?


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Hunt isn't a defensive midfielder, though, is he?  


Well he has played in that position for us last year and this, I.e. Sat in front of the back 4. Whether that really suits him is a different question
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Ainley is someone I've always been impressed with but last season he looked a shadow of himself in both fixtures.

The game at Gresty Road they were just awful but he looked languid to be kind, same at our place really.  Kinda backs up what their manager said upon his departure about him needing to get away.  

There's definitely a player in there though, a proper footballer who uses the ball very well.  I'd be happy with him signing, gotta trust Hurst when it comes to character too.  

Regardless of Conteh on international duty and Green injured, another midfielder coming in has to be the end of the line for Hunt. I really rate the lad and think if we play him further forward he's a threat, but it's just not working here for him.
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Ainley is someone I've always been impressed with but last season he looked a shadow of himself in both fixtures.

The game at Gresty Road they were just awful but he looked languid to be kind, same at our place really.  Kinda backs up what their manager said upon his departure about him needing to get away.  

There's definitely a player in there though, a proper footballer who uses the ball very well.  I'd be happy with him signing, gotta trust Hurst when it comes to character too.  

Regardless of Conteh on international duty and Green injured, another midfielder coming in has to be the end of the line for Hunt. I really rate the lad and think if we play him further forward he's a threat, but it's just not working here for him.


I like Ainley, but he doesn't fit the Hurst mould I would think, 5 foot 8 and often goes missing in games
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Can the term ‘rough diamond’ be applied to a 25 year old who has made over 250 appearances for a club? Including a few seasons in league one?


Absolutely it can. Don't think age comes into the definition of a rough diamond really, I'd say a rough diamond is someone who hasn't realised their potential. More often than not owing to a questionable attitude/workrate. More likely to have a streak of rogue within their personality too.
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I like Ainley, but he doesn't fit the Hurst mould I would think, 5 foot 8 and often goes missing in games


Hurst isn't against signing the more maverick type signings. Scott Neilson, Dom Vose, Jon Nolan, Jordan Maguire-Drew, even John McAtee with questions raised around how they would fit into a Hurst style of play.  Some obviously less successful in doing so than others.  

The way we've set up so far with a dominant anchor in midfield should/does afford us a little more flexibility when it comes to having someone in midfield who can express themselves a little more. Hunt aside there isn't a technical footballer in there who is capable of unlocking teams (not seen enough of Andrews to judge on that front).  If he's not using Hunt, there's definitely room for someone a little bit different.
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Absolutely it can. Don't think age comes into the definition of a rough diamond really, I'd say a rough diamond is someone who hasn't realised their potential. More often than not owing to a questionable attitude/workrate. More likely to have a streak of rogue within their personality too.


As it happens you can't legally use the term 'rough diamond' unless it relates to a Brian Laws signing, thanks him trademarking the phrase back in 1994.
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Interesting that Lyle Taylor or Tom Elliot  haven’t been mentioned as yet  (without me checking!). Both tall players that fit that mould of ‘target man’.


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Probably not mentioned as the idea of signing Lyle Taylor is ‘for the birds’.


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Interesting that Lyle Taylor or Tom Elliot  haven’t been mentioned as yet  (without me checking!). Both tall players that fit that mould of ‘target man’.


Neither have played in over a year. I suspect both careers are over.


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Neither have played in over a year. I suspect both careers are over.



I reckon that’s a damn good excuse!
I’ll leave transfermarkt to the professionals


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Neither have played in over a year. I suspect both careers are over.


Holloway would have signed them.


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Wonder what happened to the guy we was supposed to be signing yesterday?
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401 pages and we’ve finally peaked…


Seemed quite funny after a gallon of beer.

Not so much this morning. Neither the post or the drinking.
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Seemed quite funny after a gallon of beer.

Not so much this morning. Neither the post or the drinking.


You'd be on the fringe of Mike Newell's squad tho.
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Wonder what happened to the guy we was supposed to be signing yesterday?


I dont know but i think we will be waiting a long time for that particular (non) signing
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Uranus?


Fair play for taking a crack at it


I blocked seeing red ticks years ago so go ahead   If I don't reply to you then i didn't read your replies  
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Kieran Sadlier signs for Wycombe so that's another off the list
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Saudi window closing today.





Just in case anyone thinks we might get some late bids from any of the 59 clubs PIF own.
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Does that put me top of your league?😁
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It seems that I was the first person to mention CallumS AinSleyS, back in June, which has surprised me. Can I have a single point for the rumours league table please? Just one?
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It seems that I was the first person to mention CallumS AinSleyS, back in June, which has surprised me. Can I have a single point for the rumours league table please? Just one?


Nah
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Nah


You're too kind lol
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