Player of the Year?

Voting should start soon.

I'm going for Harry Clifton, top goalscorer as it stands and you can never fault his commitment.

Waterfall for me, leader on and off the pitch,
Should of got it last year as well

Erm....

No one leaping out. Probably Waterfall again for me.

Waterfall or Glennon

Clifton consistent and leading goal scorer . Always puts a shift in also waterfall not far behind a true leader

Michee -always deals with any adversity thrown at him.

It has to be Harry for me. He has been consistently nearly 100% for most of his games as well as being a leading goalscorer.

Harry Clifton

There is no way any defender should get an award looking at some of the dumb @ss goals we’ve conceded.

Got to be Clifton. Is there another player I’d be more disappointed to lose in the summer? I don’t think there is.

Clifton for me, I think Waterfall has had a really good season too though. No other serious contenders.

Harry Clifton.

Clifton for me

Going to be interesting to see once Harrys Cliftons football career is finished how well he has done. Possible league 1 at one most?. Ive seen him in bits and I like his mindset and engine but skillwise others I feel have been far  better eg the likes of Dembele for one.

Quoted from Rick12

Going to be interesting to see once Harrys Cliftons football career is finished how well he has done. Possible league 1 at one most?. Ive seen him in bits and I like his mindset and engine but skillwise others I feel have been far  better eg the likes of Dembele for one.

Yeah but the question was about this season

Quoted from toontown

Yeah but the question was about this season

Yes Iam jumping the gun a bit I admit.

Sean Scannel, for being professional and training hard whilst knowing he was never going to be picked as a natural winger in our formation. Waterfall or Clifton for the players that have played.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Harry Clifton

There is no way any defender should get an award looking at some of the dumb @ss goals we’ve conceded.

You could say the same about Clifton and some of the sitters he's missed though.

It's quite clearly between Clifton and Waterfall, I voted Waterfall in the Trust award but Clifton will get the main one because it'll make a good story. He deserves it to be fair, either of those two both do.

It's got to be Clifton for me, no one else is close IMHO.

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

Sean Scannel, for being professional and training hard whilst knowing he was never going to be picked as a natural winger in our formation. Waterfall or Clifton for the players that have played.

I really hope you are taking the urine otherwise you need to lie down and wait for nurse to turn up.

Waterfall for me

Gotta be Clifton. Most consistent through out the season.

Maybe not player of the season but I think Maher has been a great acquisition. Agree that Harry has been consistently strong
(And if you can award it for one game Gav is my man!!)

Let's throw the cat amongst the pigeons, George Lloyd 😶

Harry Clifton by a country mile.

Quoted from Son of Cod

You could say the same about Clifton and some of the sitters he's missed though.

It's quite clearly between Clifton and Waterfall, I voted Waterfall in the Trust award but Clifton will get the main one because it'll make a good story. He deserves it to be fair, either of those two both do.

Yeah but the difference is Clifton is a midfielder and not a striker who is expected to put it away at a decent rate. Our defenders are thought expected to defend. None of them have been all that this season.

Wouldn't really say anybody stood out. Mediocre 1st season back in the league.

Hopefully more choices next season

Gavan Holohan

Clifton or Maher (although we need to stop trying to use his not so long throws!)
Lloyd's within a shout as he's been brilliant. Works hard and I think he's the best player we have at this moment in time, but has he been here long enough to be within a chance of getting an award?

When the Fishy held this discussion at the turn of the year, the general consensus was Clifton, closely followed by Waterfall and then Max.

Waterfall was key to amassing all those away wins in the first couple of months of the season. It was that spell that meant we were never in danger of relegation. Luke was an absolute rock. At Christmas, I’d have probably have had him edging out Clifton by a whisker.

However, Clifton’s been vital all season. Even if Harry hadn’t scored all season, he’d still be in the top 2 as his energy, in-game versatility and defensive work are so important to the team. As it happens, he’s also our top scorer so it’s Harry for me.

Clifton marginally ahead of Waterfall (c)…then a huge chasm to the best of the rest…

It’s a töss up for 3rd between; Efete (better than most people appreciate or would like to admit), Maher (generally steady and should be better with an injury-free pre-season), Max (if we ignore the past 6 weeks or so), Holohan (mainly for his cup goals).

Whilst Lloyd has a good 2.5 months and I would definitely be interested in us signing him, I’m not sure if he’s had quite enough of an impact in his 18(?) matches to be in the debate for POTY.

Whoever suggested Glennon…I’m not even sure he’s been our best left back. I do think Glennon is another player who will be improved by another league season under their belt and a (hopefully) productive pre-season.

Throwing it out there that it shows we have had alot of mediocre players that have just been take it or leave it this year which would thus need adding to in the summer if we are to improve. I imagine if you go on Orient/Northampton forum that they would have 3 or 4 players with the potential and be quick to point out other players who have had good seasons. We really do need to be ruthless this year and recruit well. I think the league will be alot stronger next year, Hartlepool & Rochdale replaced by Wrexham and possibly Notts County which would be a vast improvement on both of those. The teams coming down from L1 wont be no mugs either, Forest Green won it at a canter last year.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Throwing it out there that it shows we have had alot of mediocre players that have just been take it or leave it this year which would thus need adding to in the summer if we are to improve. I imagine if you go on Orient/Northampton forum that they would have 3 or 4 players with the potential and be quick to point out other players who have had good seasons. We really do need to be ruthless this year and recruit well. I think the league will be alot stronger next year, Hartlepool & Rochdale replaced by Wrexham and possibly Notts County which would be a vast improvement on both of those. The teams coming down from L1 wont be no mugs either, Forest Green won it at a canter last year.

They won the title on Goal Difference.

Got to be Clifton

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Yeah but the difference is Clifton is a midfielder and not a striker who is expected to put it away at a decent rate. Our defenders are thought expected to defend. None of them have been all that this season.

Don't agree with that. Waterfall has been very good and Maher and Smith have been decent for most of the season. The fact that we're a midtable side is as much down us not putting teams to the sword as it is defensive errors. Of those errors too, I can't think of many that have been Waterfall's fault. Sounds a bit like you're saying Waterfall isn't in with a shout because Efete's got a clanger in him.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Don't agree with that. Waterfall has been very good and Maher and Smith have been decent for most of the season. The fact that we're a midtable side is as much down us not putting teams to the sword as it is defensive errors. Of those errors too, I can't think of many that have been Waterfall's fault. Sounds a bit like you're saying Waterfall isn't in with a shout because Efete's got a clanger in him.

Nothing wrong with a difference of opinion at all, I've not seen every game and I do agree that we haven't scored enough goals but like I say I don't think that's down to Harry Clifton, what I do know is that only 6 teams in the league including the bottom 2 have conceded more goals than us which tells a story about our defence as a unit.

I haven't mentioned Waterfall who has been decent gain this season, I get why people think he's a runner for this award and I think he is too but like I say I think Clifton has done better.

Let the majority decide I guess.  

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Nothing wrong with a difference of opinion at all, I've not seen every game and I do agree that we haven't scored enough goals but like I say I don't think that's down to Harry Clifton, what I do know is that only 6 teams in the league including the bottom 2 have conceded more goals than us which tells a story about our defence as a unit.

I haven't mentioned Waterfall who has been decent gain this season, I get why people think he's a runner for this award and I think he is too but like I say I think Clifton has done better.

Let the majority decide I guess.  

Yeah fair enough mate, I hadn't really checked our GA column until recently and I was surprised we'd conceded as many as we had. Just had a quick whip through our results, we've won ten matches by a one goal margin and lost nine by the same (unless I've miscounted). It's probably quite likely that we'll sit here having discussions like whether it's more of a defence/attack problem when the margins are so tight. Six 1-0 wins and three 1-0 defeats in that too.

Not always the fault of the defence though is it?

If the ball isn't sticking up front and we aren't putting teams on the back foot by scoring when on top, the defence comes under more pressure.

Teams higher up the league spend less time defending the ball in their own defensive third.

Lots of grafters to choose from. Not a lot of quality. Harry Clifton stands out I suppose, but I don't particulary rate him. Gives his all, and has scored a few goals from midfield so Clifton for me.

Quoted from ginnywings

Not always the fault of the defence though is it?

Yep.

From the reports of recent away games such as Tranmere and Crawley, I'm led to believe we should have been out of sight by half-time if our strikers could hit a barn door from 6 yards. They didn't on those two occasions and we ended up conceding goals when we might perhaps have been cantering to victory. Midfield has also been chopped and changed on a game by game basis, because whichever combinations were tried didn't work out.

Considering that we've had very little strength up front for much of the season and such a disjointed midfield, the defence has probably done reasonably well, in spite of some of the soft goals conceded!

100% Waterfall for me.

Quoted from ginnywings

Not always the fault of the defence though is it?

If the ball isn't sticking up front and we aren't putting teams on the back foot by scoring when on top, the defence comes under more pressure.

Teams higher up the league spend less time defending the ball in their own defensive third.

An excellent and often overlooked point.

The other thing which is often self-defeating and what I sometimes bang on about is this obsession with tracking back all the time from wide players or in Hurst's case every player.

We win it back, then what? Nobody is forward to hit, no width anywhere, so League 2 players are expected to win the ball back in their own defensive third and then launch an attack by keeping it long enough for somebody to get remotely near the opposition's goal. Usually what happens is we lose the ball in short order to start the process all over again.

If Hurst continues with this plan we will sign another load of hard-working players in the summer, who will encounter the same problems.

We surely have to start giving the opposition much more to think about. It is not even a successful strategy based on the number of goals we ship; people in each other's way making daft tackles like on Saturday.

It feels like at school when the teacher used to shout at you spread out lads!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

An excellent and often overlooked point.

The other thing which is often self-defeating and what I sometimes bang on about is this obsession with tracking back all the time from wide players or in Hurst's case every player.

We win it back, then what? Nobody is forward to hit, no width anywhere, so League 2 players are expected to win the ball back in their own defensive third and then launch an attack by keeping it long enough for somebody to get remotely near the opposition's goal. Usually what happens is we lose the ball in short order to start the process all over again.

If Hurst continues with this plan we will sign another load of hard-working players in the summer, who will encounter the same problems.

We surely have to start giving the opposition much more to think about. It is not even a successful strategy based on the number of goals we ship; people in each other's way making daft tackles like on Saturday.

It feels like at school when the teacher used to shout at you spread out lads!

What?  you don't want 11 defenders in a team?  Anyway, spot on.  When it's back against the walls time, fair enough but you are spot on.  Why did we get rid of JMD?  Things might have  happened if we got the ball to him.

Quoted from Mayaman

What?  you don't want 11 defenders in a team?  Anyway, spot on.  When it's back against the walls time, fair enough but you are spot on.  Why did we get rid of JMD?  Things might have  happened if we got the ball to him.

The fact that he joined Torquay who are relegated to NLS.

WATERFALL