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Simon
March 14, 2023, 7:17pm
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Anyone know what's happened to Scannell?

He was close to making a return getting on the bench a few weeks back and then nothing, have i missed something


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Scannell is a class player for our level but I very much doubt he will be offered a new contract in the summer due to his injury record.

Our cup run revenue will change things next season, no passengers.


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I don't understand why we offered him a deal in the summer. We knew he was injured, and that he'd miss preseason, and would therefore be playing catch-up fitness-wise.

He first made the bench v Harrogate on Boxing Day and then came off the bench a few days later in our 4-1 defeat to Salford.

At that point I took this to mean that he was close to being match fit.

He was named on the bench for the next few matches, including the two FA Cup games v Luton. But since then, nothing. Didn't even make the bench v Southampton when we could name nine players.

I'm not sure what's happened for him to fade away like that. If we're not even going to name him on a nine-man bench in a cup tie then I don't see him playing again this season.

So, is he fit? If not, that would explain things, but no one has reported that he's injured. Equally, if he's fit, why is he not involved? Hurst must know what a fit Scannell offers the team, hence the year contract.

It's not the major story of the moment, obviously, but in hindsight if we were never going to play a fit Scannell then what was the point in extending his contract?

Just to make it clear, I wish the bloke all the best. If by giving him an extension it helped him in some way personally, or that he's good to have around in the dressing room, then fair enough.


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Quoted from RichMariner
I don't understand why we offered him a deal in the summer. We knew he was injured, and that he'd miss preseason, and would therefore be playing catch-up fitness-wise.

He first made the bench v Harrogate on Boxing Day and then came off the bench a few days later in our 4-1 defeat to Salford.

At that point I took this to mean that he was close to being match fit.

He was named on the bench for the next few matches, including the two FA Cup games v Luton. But since then, nothing. Didn't even make the bench v Southampton when we could name nine players.

I'm not sure what's happened for him to fade away like that. If we're not even going to name him on a nine-man bench in a cup tie then I don't see him playing again this season.

So, is he fit? If not, that would explain things, but no one has reported that he's injured. Equally, if he's fit, why is he not involved? Hurst must know what a fit Scannell offers the team, hence the year contract.

It's not the major story of the moment, obviously, but in hindsight if we were never going to play a fit Scannell then what was the point in extending his contract?

Just to make it clear, I wish the bloke all the best. If by giving him an extension it helped him in some way personally, or that he's good to have around in the dressing room, then fair enough.


Agreed- its not a go at Scannel for earning a contract, he seems like he worked hard to deserve it, but at the decision to offer it if we were never going to be willing to play him. Presumably he was always going to need to be used as a sub a few times to build up fitness
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Looking after him and rehabilitating him was admirable.
Not giving him any game time since he regained his fitness does seem odd. Don’t know how fit he is but I think we might have expected him to ‘give something back’ in terms of repaying that support. Out of his hands, totally, of course.


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He may have an extension clause in his contract if he plays a certain number of games, quite common amongst players with bad injury records.
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March 14, 2023, 9:57pm
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Wasn't Scannell on the bench when we didn't have enough players to name a complete bench? My reading of him being on the bench was that he was there to make up numbers. Hurst has said he's a good influence on the squad so having him on the bench might be good from an experience perspective. I don't think he was ever match fit and now we've got less injuries he doesn't need to be near the squad until fully ready.
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March 14, 2023, 10:00pm

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Quoted from PoutonStepover
He may have an extension clause in his contract if he plays a certain number of games, quite common amongst players with bad injury records.


Seems unlikely that the number's 2!


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I think the change to a 3-5-2 hasn't helped his cause as I think he's considered a natural winger which we now don't utilise.

Personally, I would have loved him to get more minutes. It took an age after returning from his injury last season to get a run, when he did he grasped it with both hands and showed exactly what he can do and then suffered that injury to rule him out the length it did.

What I find most strange is that PH is all about the right people. He clearly values him enough to keep him on, but with is experience and talent it seems a waste to never use him. I'd have thought he'd at least of had minutes at Carlisle when there was much rotation. I can't understand why PH would see enough in a player to have him around but then never use him, even in rotation.
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March 14, 2023, 10:06pm

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While we're here, where's Wearne? Got some minutes a few games back, cup tied so thought he may get a look in.
Oh, and Gallacher. Did he pick up a knock,? ,looked quite decent.
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He may get some game time toward the end of the season if we have a few dead rubbers.

People are saying he's fit now, but he's had a serious injury and getting match fit mid season isn't easy when the games are coming thick and fast and we need to secure our position in League 2.
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Big injury and can't always predict how a player will come back from that. His rehab contract was probably relative peanuts but better than signing on and an altruistic gesture from the club for contributing to our promotion.  Returned to full training but probably hasn't hit the levels required to be considered regularly. Not helped by having no formal reserve fixtures. A loan to the national league might have done him the power of good but possibly no takers, who knows. Can't see it being anything sinister but it is a shame as we all hoped he'd come back and play a decent part.
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Quoted from PoutonStepover
He may have an extension clause in his contract if he plays a certain number of games, quite common amongst players with bad injury records.


I thought we gave him a new contract at the start of this season, anyway a barmy decision for me, he's only played a handful of games in the past few seasons.
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March 15, 2023, 6:09am
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Been wondering about Scanz since he started making the bench but getting virtually no minutes on the pitch.

I've finally concluded that he's a character Hurst likes to have around the matchday squad. Which is OK, as there are
more places on the bench than there are permitted subs.

Of course, El General may have been planning to unleash Sean on unsuspecting FA Cup Quarter-Final opponents all along.
Bit hard to believe that one, though...  
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I think it’s very apparent that the players and the management have huge respect for Scannell and his presence around the club is clearly positive.

He may have had a set back, he may be struggling mentally or he may have non football stuff going on. We simply don’t know. Or, has been said, he’s going to be unleashed from the bench to set up Taylor for the winner on Sunday…


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The weirdest thing about the Scannell thing is that Matt Dean/Tonduer haven’t asked about him once
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He is fit but just doesn't fit into Hurst's system he has adopted.

He will be on the bench for Sunday but unless we revert to full backs and wingers I doubt we will see much of him.
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Quoted from HatTrickHero
While we're here, where's Wearne? Got some minutes a few games back, cup tied so thought he may get a look in.
Oh, and Gallacher. Did he pick up a knock,? ,looked quite decent.

I remember Hurst saying Torquay wanted to extend Wearne's loan but Wearne made the decision to come and fight for his place, so I took that to mean that Hurst was happy for him to come back but that he's not necessarily in his plans. I reckon he'll be back in the National League next season.

And yep, I believe Gallacher is injured.
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March 15, 2023, 12:52pm

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I remember Hurst saying Torquay wanted to extend Wearne's loan but Wearne made the decision to come and fight for his place, so I took that to mean that Hurst was happy for him to come back but that he's not necessarily in his plans. I reckon he'll be back in the National League next season.

And yep, I believe Gallacher is injured.

Think you're right, frustrating as there's a decent player in there.
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